Cales pieds et anti-vol pour un tour d'Europe à vélo couché?
by Antoinestg
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Bonjour
Je prévois un tour d'europe a vélo couché pour l'été sans avoir encore trop testé l'engin, sauf a M5, Annecy. Le vendeur me recommande fortement les cales pieds. Les connaisseures peuvent-ils confirmer (ou infirmer) ?
D'autre part, comment peut-on se prémunir des vols de vélo, sacoches (ou remorques), contenus des dits-sacoches ...?
La béquille est-elle indispensable ?
Allez, une derniere et puis j'arrete : connaissez vous des trucs contre les chiens (sifflet, ultra son, matraque...) et sont-ils présents et agressifs en europe du nord (scandinavie, autriche...)
Merci d'avance
Bonjour
Je prévois un tour d'europe a vélo couché pour l'été sans avoir encore trop testé l'engin, sauf a M5, Annecy. Le vendeur me recommande fortement les cales pieds. Les connaisseures peuvent-ils confirmer (ou infirmer) ?
D'autre part, comment peut-on se prémunir des vols de vélo, sacoches (ou remorques), contenus des dits-sacoches ...?
La béquille est-elle indispensable ?
Allez, une derniere et puis j'arrete : connaissez vous des trucs contre les chiens (sifflet, ultra son, matraque...) et sont-ils présents et agressifs en europe du nord (scandinavie, autriche...)
Merci d'avance
Hello,
De mon point de vue : Oui il te fâut des cales pieds car sinon tu vas devoir gérer le poids de tes jambes... Meme en trike c'est un exercice assez penible.
Contre le vol, désolé ma technique ne marchera pour toi, on est deux, toujours un pret des velos non attachés sinon on les attaches avec un cable + cadenas et on demonte parfois le siege histoire de relentir le vol le tout autours d'un arbre... Mais en trike ou velo couche c'est assez difficile car ya toujours quelqu'un qui sârrete pour regarder de plus pret la bizarerie que voila...
En velo couche + sacoche, oui la bequille me semble necessaire.
COntre les chiens le Dazer II(recherche sur ce forum pour plus d'infos) parait il efficace (on va s'en equiper). sinon la regle c'est de ralentir en generale les chiens aboient apres la roue qui tourne surtout. Mais c'est vrai, les chiens sont en generale des animaux pas tres intelligents surtout les aggressifs le dzer II me semble la bonne defense.
Simon.
Hello,
De mon point de vue : Oui il te fâut des cales pieds car sinon tu vas devoir gérer le poids de tes jambes... Meme en trike c'est un exercice assez penible.
Contre le vol, désolé ma technique ne marchera pour toi, on est deux, toujours un pret des velos non attachés sinon on les attaches avec un cable + cadenas et on demonte parfois le siege histoire de relentir le vol le tout autours d'un arbre... Mais en trike ou velo couche c'est assez difficile car ya toujours quelqu'un qui sârrete pour regarder de plus pret la bizarerie que voila...
En velo couche + sacoche, oui la bequille me semble necessaire.
COntre les chiens le Dazer II(recherche sur ce forum pour plus d'infos) parait il efficace (on va s'en equiper). sinon la regle c'est de ralentir en generale les chiens aboient apres la roue qui tourne surtout. Mais c'est vrai, les chiens sont en generale des animaux pas tres intelligents surtout les aggressifs le dzer II me semble la bonne defense.
Simon.
Bon voyage,
Simon.
bonsoir
pour faire simple;cales pieds obligés, pourquoi car en passant sur les irrigularitées de la route un pied peu sauté de la pedale et déséquilibrer le cycliste conséquence :chute.C'a m'est arrivé au debut.
pour les vols .Je n'ai jamais eu de problême .Vélo toujours a proximité immediate.Pour les courses je vais dans les petites boutiques en campagne et je mets un simple antivol et je prends avec moi ma petite sacoche contenant, portefeuille etc;;
pour le reste sacoches fixées avec tendeurs
oui la bequille est indispensable en velo couché, Il n'y a pas toujours de support.
Pour les chiens j'avais acheté un dazzer (ultra sons)mais je l'ai vite abandonné pas toujours efficace.Sinon quand un chien me course, je m'arrete et je gueule
Je comprends pas comment vous faites pour énerver les chiens. Moi ils ne bougent pas d'un poil, y compris depuis que j'ai le mien sur le porte-bagage !
Je comprends pas comment vous faites pour énerver les chiens. Moi ils ne bougent pas d'un poil, y compris depuis que j'ai le mien sur le porte-bagage !
Hello,
Nous on fait rien on passe juste, parfois tres doucement tellement ca monte, maisje pense quîl y a pour bcp l'effet de surprise lié au fait quôn soit silencieux. Sinon je ne compte plus le nombre de chiens qui nous aboie après sur toute la longueur de la cloture de son territoire et ceux qui nous course et s'arrete a 3 metres en continuant ses aboiements.
Hello,
Nous on fait rien on passe juste, parfois tres doucement tellement ca monte, maisje pense quîl y a pour bcp l'effet de surprise lié au fait quôn soit silencieux. Sinon je ne compte plus le nombre de chiens qui nous aboie après sur toute la longueur de la cloture de son territoire et ceux qui nous course et s'arrete a 3 metres en continuant ses aboiements.
Bon voyage,
Simon.
Moi j'suis convaincu que les fanions les excitent... J'en ai jamais mis sur le mien.
Fourche avant non-suspendue = pédale autos (sinon les pieds gerbent quand tu prends un nid de poule)
Foruche avant suspendue (de qualité) = pas forcément pédales autos mais pédales larges à picots au minimum.
Je me sentais plus en sécurité en grande vitesse avec les pédales auto mais pas à l'aise du tout si besoin de s'arrêter car le temps de la tenue d'équilibre quand on s'arrête et la pose du pied parterre sont bien différents du vélo droit. LE piège permanent c'est la basse vitesse en côte (de nuit c'est pire).
Quel que soit ton choix, il faut s'assurer le bon réglage de la longueur de baume sinon le tu le paiera bout de quelques centaines de km, d'autant plus si tes pieds sont bloqués.
Infos complémentaires ici: http://velorizontal.bbfr.net/index.forum
Béquille = oui.
A+
Je me sentais plus en sécurité en grande vitesse avec les pédales auto mais pas à l'aise du tout si besoin de s'arrêter car le temps de la tenue d'équilibre quand on s'arrête et la pose du pied parterre sont bien différents du vélo droit. LE piège permanent c'est la basse vitesse en côte (de nuit c'est pire).
Quel que soit ton choix, il faut s'assurer le bon réglage de la longueur de baume sinon le tu le paiera bout de quelques centaines de km, d'autant plus si tes pieds sont bloqués.
Infos complémentaires ici: http://velorizontal.bbfr.net/index.forum
Béquille = oui.
A+
Le vol
en général je suis seul durant mes balades
j'ai 2 anti-vols U
pourquoi 2 ? les voleurs aiment que ça aille vite
je met 1 sur la roue arrière et l'autre sur la roue avant
je cherche le plus possible à accrocher le vélo
j'emmène avec moi la sacoche de guidon qui contient tout ce qui est précieux, appareil photo, papiers, moyen de paiement etc.
au camping : l'expérience m'a appris que le vol de vélo existe dans les campings j'applique les règles ci-dessus
pour les courses : en général je fréquente les supermarchés Carrefour, Intermarché etc. j'y vais au heures où il n'y a pas trop de queue si je peu je gare mon vélo dans la galerie à un endroit où ça gêne pas, des fois les vigiles te l'interdisent. sinon à l'extérieur juste devant l'entrée où il y a du passage car la présence permanente de gens est un bon anti-vol bien sûr je met un anti-vol ou 2 selon l'ambiance que je sens je me dépêche de faire les courses
pour la visite de musée, chateau etc. : si je peu je le rentre à l'intérieur je le gare en face du guichet pour les billets éventuellement je demande à la personne qui vend les billets de jeter un oeil dessus
Je me rassure en me disant que : mes sacoches sont pas faciles à décrocher, lourdes, que le vélo avec ses bagages c'est pas facile de monter dessus et de démarrer pour quelqu'un qui n'a pas l'habitude
cette année j'ai ajouté le système anti-vol sur mes sacoches Ortlieb
bien des fois je me suis résolu à le laisser seul avec les bagages sinon on mange pas, on ne visite rien
au camping : l'expérience m'a appris que le vol de vélo existe dans les campings j'applique les règles ci-dessus
pour les courses : en général je fréquente les supermarchés Carrefour, Intermarché etc. j'y vais au heures où il n'y a pas trop de queue si je peu je gare mon vélo dans la galerie à un endroit où ça gêne pas, des fois les vigiles te l'interdisent. sinon à l'extérieur juste devant l'entrée où il y a du passage car la présence permanente de gens est un bon anti-vol bien sûr je met un anti-vol ou 2 selon l'ambiance que je sens je me dépêche de faire les courses
pour la visite de musée, chateau etc. : si je peu je le rentre à l'intérieur je le gare en face du guichet pour les billets éventuellement je demande à la personne qui vend les billets de jeter un oeil dessus
Je me rassure en me disant que : mes sacoches sont pas faciles à décrocher, lourdes, que le vélo avec ses bagages c'est pas facile de monter dessus et de démarrer pour quelqu'un qui n'a pas l'habitude
cette année j'ai ajouté le système anti-vol sur mes sacoches Ortlieb
bien des fois je me suis résolu à le laisser seul avec les bagages sinon on mange pas, on ne visite rien
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Do you have any info on the track between Amezri and Ali Ait Nito? Are the river crossings in the Tessaout still there? It's not easy to navigate with a loaded tandem... especially if the river level is high due to this year's heavy snowmelt!
Thanks in advance for any tips you might have, and best wishes for health in this new year!
Thanks in advance for any tips you might have, and best wishes for health in this new year!
A shout-out to a cycling colleague from Savoie
Claudio specializes in the route of the Savoie lakes Here are his travels Between Bornes, Chartreuse, the Savoie foothills, and Dauphiné Five lakes: Léman, Annecy, Paladru, Aiguebelette, Bourget, not to mention a few ponds along the way Plenty of accommodation options: camping, hotels, and more...
A lovely route not far from his place Rural and quite peaceful A road cycling route created by Serge B...
N+1 reconnaissance trips on a loop of about 400 km This way, he avoids the SNCF and its troubles http://cbandiera.free.fr/vv/lacs-savoie/recos.php

The latest reconnaissance trip from April to May 2026 http://cbandiera.free.fr/recits/2026-grenoble-H/index.php

Claudio specializes in the route of the Savoie lakes Here are his travels Between Bornes, Chartreuse, the Savoie foothills, and Dauphiné Five lakes: Léman, Annecy, Paladru, Aiguebelette, Bourget, not to mention a few ponds along the way Plenty of accommodation options: camping, hotels, and more...
A lovely route not far from his place Rural and quite peaceful A road cycling route created by Serge B...
N+1 reconnaissance trips on a loop of about 400 km This way, he avoids the SNCF and its troubles http://cbandiera.free.fr/vv/lacs-savoie/recos.php


The latest reconnaissance trip from April to May 2026 http://cbandiera.free.fr/recits/2026-grenoble-H/index.php

First of all... happy New Year! Wishing you great roads in 2017!
I’ve been traveling for a few years now with a high-quality mountain bike, but it’s equipped with hydraulic disc brakes. I live (pedal) with the constant worry of a breakdown (leak, air bubble, heat causing the fluid to...). My bike mechanic tells me it’s impossible to switch them out for V-brakes.
What do you all think? Am I taking a big risk continuing (alone) with these brakes? Thanks in advance for your great tips!
Hi everyone,
First post here to share a quick recap of our west-to-east bike trip along Algeria’s coast in January 2025. It was just the two of us—my partner and I—with French passports and not a word of Arabic. No friends or welcoming hosts in the country.
Under those conditions, we’d strongly advise against going.
Our original plan was to follow the coast from Algiers to Tunis. We ended up cycling from Algiers to Béjaia, then took the train from Béjaia to Annaba (with a stop in Constantine), and finally biked to the border. We were tailed by police the whole way—whether on our bikes, on the train, or even on foot while exploring towns. On top of that, we couldn’t wild camp and were limited to the few state-approved hotels that accept foreigners. Under those circumstances, connecting with locals was especially tough.
With such an omnipresent and intrusive police presence, we’d definitely recommend against this destination for bike touring. A really sad situation that completely cuts you off from the local population...
We’d been warned, we went to check it out, and we weren’t disappointed!
You’ve been warned.
First post here to share a quick recap of our west-to-east bike trip along Algeria’s coast in January 2025. It was just the two of us—my partner and I—with French passports and not a word of Arabic. No friends or welcoming hosts in the country.
Under those conditions, we’d strongly advise against going.
Our original plan was to follow the coast from Algiers to Tunis. We ended up cycling from Algiers to Béjaia, then took the train from Béjaia to Annaba (with a stop in Constantine), and finally biked to the border. We were tailed by police the whole way—whether on our bikes, on the train, or even on foot while exploring towns. On top of that, we couldn’t wild camp and were limited to the few state-approved hotels that accept foreigners. Under those circumstances, connecting with locals was especially tough.
With such an omnipresent and intrusive police presence, we’d definitely recommend against this destination for bike touring. A really sad situation that completely cuts you off from the local population...
We’d been warned, we went to check it out, and we weren’t disappointed!
You’ve been warned.
Hi there,
I’m planning the route to cycle from Lille to Nordkapp with my partner.
Duration: 3 months, from May 1st to July 31st, 2026.
In the attached details below, I need to add some "non-riding" days (rest days, basically).
So I’m looking to "shorten" the trip by taking ferries or trains for some stretches. Which areas could I skip?
Thanks in advance for your great tips.
Have a good evening.
https://www.komoot.com/fr-fr/collection/4023980/-lille-cap-nord-1er-mai-au-31-juillet-2026?ref=collection
Hi there,
I’m planning to bike back from Poland this summer. Does anyone know a way to ship it there without having to take it apart? Otherwise, it’s a real hassle to fine-tune all the settings before departure! Thanks in advance.
I’m planning to bike back from Poland this summer. Does anyone know a way to ship it there without having to take it apart? Otherwise, it’s a real hassle to fine-tune all the settings before departure! Thanks in advance.
Hi, has anyone recently bought Primus or Butagaz gas, possibly puncture-style, in Dubrovnik or the surrounding area? Same question for Albania... thanks. aichatou
Hi there,
Coming from Laos (*), I’m planning to enter Thailand by bike via the Fourth Thai–Lao Friendship Bridge.
Before this bridge was built, I’d already cycled the road from Louang Namtha to Houei Sai and crossed the river by boat to reach Thailand.
At the time, the condition of that road was impeccable, and most importantly, traffic was light.
So I’m wondering if anyone who’s taken it recently can tell me whether traffic has increased since the bridge opened.
Thanks in advance!
(*) I’m currently cycling in China (Yunnan)
Coming from Laos (*), I’m planning to enter Thailand by bike via the Fourth Thai–Lao Friendship Bridge.
Before this bridge was built, I’d already cycled the road from Louang Namtha to Houei Sai and crossed the river by boat to reach Thailand.
At the time, the condition of that road was impeccable, and most importantly, traffic was light.
So I’m wondering if anyone who’s taken it recently can tell me whether traffic has increased since the bridge opened.
Thanks in advance!
(*) I’m currently cycling in China (Yunnan)
Hi there,
Just a few words about the loop I did by bike in Yunnan.
Entry and exit
I entered China through the Sino-Vietnamese border crossing at Lào Cai / Hekou under the 30-day visa exemption currently available to French nationals and others.
The process was simple and quick. A Chinese police officer even helped me complete my electronic pre-registration at a computer kiosk. I wasn’t aware this formality was required—it’s similar to Thailand’s TM6.
No issues with the bike.
I left the country via the Sino-Laotian border crossing at Mohan / Boten.
The atmosphere was a bit chaotic there, but again, no problems with the bike.
The timing
I visited Yunnan in February 2026.
Weather-wise, at higher altitudes (between 1,500 and 2,000 meters), it was around ten degrees at night and in the mornings, and around twenty degrees at the hottest part of the day.
I had two days of rain, so I took the bus to keep moving. Otherwise, clear blue skies.
Culturally, Chinese New Year fell on February 17th (and the 15 days following), right in the middle of my trip. Because of this, my take on the traffic might be off.
Accommodation and food I always found a hotel to stay in for prices ranging from 8 to 15 €. Except in Kunming (the capital), where many hotels were fully booked (Chinese New Year). I ended up at a 100 € hotel with great value for money.
A bowl of noodles costs about 1.5 € on average.
Onboard electronics Since my smartphone doesn’t support eSIMs, I subscribed to a China plan with my carrier. Otherwise, for much cheaper, Alipay offers eSIMs for foreigners that allow access to services usually blocked for Chinese users (WhatsApp, Facebook, etc.).
An internet connection is essential for paying with Alipay or WeChat, as this payment method is widespread.
I only managed to use Alipay.
Either way, always carry cash because sometimes there’s no signal, or the merchant only accepts WeChat.
Also, it’s best to bring a power adapter when you arrive rather than struggling to find one.
Traffic and roads The Chinese aren’t reckless drivers. They follow traffic rules and watch out for cyclists. This is slightly less true in Xishuangbanna (the region bordering Myanmar and Laos).
In urban areas, there are almost always wide bike lanes, separated from other roads, where bikes, electric mini-scooters, and scooters share the space pretty harmoniously.
The roads are in great condition, and traffic is generally manageable—even light—except for one stretch (Eshan -> Yangwu).
Most traffic is absorbed by expressways, China’s equivalent of highways: toll roads that are off-limits to slow vehicles.
You’re never far from these expressways; sometimes you even ride alongside them, which can be noisy at times.
The climbs are usually reasonable, around 5% to 6%. From what I remember, the steepest section was between Menglun and Mengla, with gradients of 8% to 10%, sometimes more.
Riding at these altitudes—though modest—took a bit of getting used to.
The route I didn’t plan anything in advance. My only goal was to reach Kunming. I don’t know why, but just hearing the name of that city, like Yunnan, always felt dreamy to me.
Here’s the breakdown: Hekou -> Man Hao (94 km); Man Hao -> Yuanyang (64 km); Yuanyang -> Jianshui (bus); Jianshui -> Tong Hai (78 km); Tong Hai -> Chenjiang (85 km); Chenjiang -> Kunming (60 km); Kunming -> Kunyang (60 km); Kunyang -> Eshan (67 km); Eshan -> Yangwu (58 km); Yangwu -> Yuanjiang (59 km); Yuanjiang -> Pu'er (bus); Pu'er -> Dadugang (75 km); Dadugang -> Jinghong (80 km); Jinghong -> Menglun (67 km); Menglun -> Mengyuancun (51 km); Mengyuancun -> Mengla (43 km); Mengla -> Boten (67 km).
Otherwise, I’m currently in Thailand and just hoping my return flight with Qatar won’t get canceled.
Oh well... 😉
Just a few words about the loop I did by bike in Yunnan.
Entry and exit
I entered China through the Sino-Vietnamese border crossing at Lào Cai / Hekou under the 30-day visa exemption currently available to French nationals and others.
The process was simple and quick. A Chinese police officer even helped me complete my electronic pre-registration at a computer kiosk. I wasn’t aware this formality was required—it’s similar to Thailand’s TM6.
No issues with the bike.
I left the country via the Sino-Laotian border crossing at Mohan / Boten.
The atmosphere was a bit chaotic there, but again, no problems with the bike.
The timing
I visited Yunnan in February 2026.
Weather-wise, at higher altitudes (between 1,500 and 2,000 meters), it was around ten degrees at night and in the mornings, and around twenty degrees at the hottest part of the day.
I had two days of rain, so I took the bus to keep moving. Otherwise, clear blue skies.
Culturally, Chinese New Year fell on February 17th (and the 15 days following), right in the middle of my trip. Because of this, my take on the traffic might be off.
Accommodation and food I always found a hotel to stay in for prices ranging from 8 to 15 €. Except in Kunming (the capital), where many hotels were fully booked (Chinese New Year). I ended up at a 100 € hotel with great value for money.
A bowl of noodles costs about 1.5 € on average.
Onboard electronics Since my smartphone doesn’t support eSIMs, I subscribed to a China plan with my carrier. Otherwise, for much cheaper, Alipay offers eSIMs for foreigners that allow access to services usually blocked for Chinese users (WhatsApp, Facebook, etc.).
An internet connection is essential for paying with Alipay or WeChat, as this payment method is widespread.
I only managed to use Alipay.
Either way, always carry cash because sometimes there’s no signal, or the merchant only accepts WeChat.
Also, it’s best to bring a power adapter when you arrive rather than struggling to find one.
Traffic and roads The Chinese aren’t reckless drivers. They follow traffic rules and watch out for cyclists. This is slightly less true in Xishuangbanna (the region bordering Myanmar and Laos).
In urban areas, there are almost always wide bike lanes, separated from other roads, where bikes, electric mini-scooters, and scooters share the space pretty harmoniously.
The roads are in great condition, and traffic is generally manageable—even light—except for one stretch (Eshan -> Yangwu).
Most traffic is absorbed by expressways, China’s equivalent of highways: toll roads that are off-limits to slow vehicles.
You’re never far from these expressways; sometimes you even ride alongside them, which can be noisy at times.
The climbs are usually reasonable, around 5% to 6%. From what I remember, the steepest section was between Menglun and Mengla, with gradients of 8% to 10%, sometimes more.
Riding at these altitudes—though modest—took a bit of getting used to.
The route I didn’t plan anything in advance. My only goal was to reach Kunming. I don’t know why, but just hearing the name of that city, like Yunnan, always felt dreamy to me.
Here’s the breakdown: Hekou -> Man Hao (94 km); Man Hao -> Yuanyang (64 km); Yuanyang -> Jianshui (bus); Jianshui -> Tong Hai (78 km); Tong Hai -> Chenjiang (85 km); Chenjiang -> Kunming (60 km); Kunming -> Kunyang (60 km); Kunyang -> Eshan (67 km); Eshan -> Yangwu (58 km); Yangwu -> Yuanjiang (59 km); Yuanjiang -> Pu'er (bus); Pu'er -> Dadugang (75 km); Dadugang -> Jinghong (80 km); Jinghong -> Menglun (67 km); Menglun -> Mengyuancun (51 km); Mengyuancun -> Mengla (43 km); Mengla -> Boten (67 km).
Otherwise, I’m currently in Thailand and just hoping my return flight with Qatar won’t get canceled.
Oh well... 😉