Driver for independent northern Thailand itinerary
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Hello everyone, Not long ago, I used to travel as a couple, but my husband has since passed away, and I’ve decided to set off again. The trip I took to Cambodia in January 2025 did me a world of good. I’m now considering Thailand, a destination we never included in our plans because even 15 years ago, people said it was too touristy. Still, I’m thinking about the itinerary below, but I don’t feel up to arranging buses, trains, or guides on my own while I’m there. I’m looking for one or more drivers and have been in touch with an agency, but their offers are just copy-paste group tours that I don’t want. So, if you have any contacts, experiences, or advice, I’d be so grateful if you’d share them with me. Here’s my rough plan: Arrival in Bangkok Ayutthaya (2 nights) Kanchanaburi (2 or 3 nights) Sangkhlaburi/Sai Yok (3 nights) Sukhothai (2 nights) Lampang (I’ve planned 3 nights, but that might be a bit much—it depends on what time I arrive in the city) Chiang Mai Chiang Dao Pai Chiang Rai I was thinking about the Mae Hong Son loop—thoughts? What do you think about staying overnight at the Golden Triangle? When I look online, of course, I can find agencies that organize tours to national parks, etc. I’m retired but in great physical shape. I’d rather go hiking than sit in hot springs with crowds of tourists who’ve all arranged meet-ups. I don’t want to spend a day at an elephant camp, and I don’t want to visit Karen villages. I’d love to hear your advice. Thank you all,
SO Songsam Veteran ·
Good evening,

Sai Yok

Which one? Sai Yok Noi or Sai Yok Yai? Although both are located on Route 323, they’re not geographically that close and have nothing to do with each other. The first is a waterfall that’s only worth a 30-minute stop at most during a trip. The second is a National Park crossed by the little* River Kwai, with a few waterfalls flowing into it, and it’s worth spending a night on a raft towed by a boat for a river cruise, then moored for the night near one of the waterfalls (meals are delivered to you). You might get a bit bored alone on the raft (it’s mostly an option popular with couples or Thai groups out for fun). Otherwise, you can also spend the night in a hotel with rooms floating on the river. Either way, the river setting is really nice. This is where the "Russian roulette" scenes from *The Deer Hunter* were filmed (best if I don’t tell you the French title...).

* Don’t confuse it with the big one—they’re not the same rivers.

Bangkok Ayutthaya (2 nights) Kanchanaburi (2 or 3 nights) Sangkhlaburi/Sai Yok (3 nights) Sukhotai (2 nights

- Sangkhlaburi, the charming one with a pretty setting, is worth 3 nights on its own. - In this area and still on Route 323, Thong Pha Phum is worth a 1- or 2-night stop. - The order of your stops is inconsistent: Bangkok → Kanchanaburi (2 nights = too short) → Sai Yok (your choice) → Sangkhlaburi → Ayutthaya → Sukhotai would make more sense (even if you’ll have to pass through Kanchanaburi again).

Lampang (I planned 3 nights, but that might be a bit much, depending on what time I arrive in the city)

2 nights, maybe just 1, or even none.

Chiang Mai Chiang Dao Pai Chiang Rai

- Your itinerary is inconsistent: after Chiang Dao, it’d make much more sense to continue to Tha Ton, the quiet and pretty town (2-3 nights), then Mae Salong (3 nights), an interesting and nice base for day trips to the surrounding villages. Then head to Chiang Rai. - Pai is a tourist ghetto with little appeal for young people who don’t have much of a plan.

I was thinking of the Mae Hong Son loop?

Why not, while skipping the stop in Pai: Chiang Mai → Soppong → Mae Hong Son → Khun Yuam → Mae Sariang → Chiang Mai in 11-12 nights (Chiang Mai not included).

What do you think about sleeping at the Golden Triangle?

The Golden Triangle is a big area—I’ll assume you mean the ultra-touristy Sop Ruak. I think it’s a place you can skip, and sleeping there would be a bad idea. Right next to it, you have Chiang Saen, the peaceful town, which would be a much better stop for your peace of mind and also offers some moderately interesting ruins to visit. Plus, it’s on the Mekong River.

with an agency, but it’s just a copy-paste of group tours I don’t want to do.

Tours you don’t want to do, but it seems like you’re still drawing some inspiration from them in this first draft...
JO Jojoone1 Globetrotter ·
Hello,

Like many countries, Thailand is far less touristy once you venture away from the spots where everyone else crowds. And if you avoid December-January, the busiest period, even better.

Since I plan all my trips to Thailand entirely on my own, I can confirm that doing it right takes a ton of time and can be a real headache at times.

I should mention that most people who visit Thailand end up wanting to go back, and you can easily plan 10 to 15 one-month trips where you only see new things each time.

So, I’m assuming you’ll want to return and that you’d spread yourself too thin if you tried to see the whole country in one go. Unless, of course, you want to explore something different every year...

To give you the best advice, let me know what time of year you’re planning to go. Also, specify the total length of your stay. If possible, share your budget (prices vary depending on distance, route difficulty, and sometimes even the season).
« Tout le monde s'interroge sur comment laisser une meilleure planète à nos enfants, mais on devrait plutôt penser à laisser de meilleurs enfants pour notre planète. » Clint Eastwood
GO Golfouette Regular ·
Hi Joel, I’ve been looking at your photos on your profile for two hours now. Your stories are amazing too—I love them! Thanks for sharing; I haven’t finished yet—I’ll read/watch the rest.

Thanks to both of you, Christiane

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