Paul Théroux - La Chine à petites vapeurs - 1986
Les Chinois passent leur temps à cracher
by Ragamuffin
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Les Chinois passent leur temps à cracher. Ils se raclent la gorge si bruyamment que la conversation devient inaudible - on dirait le bruit d'un motoculteur ou de quelqu'un qui nettoie une gouttière, ou encore les derniers litres d'eau d'un jaccuzzi en train de se vider. Ils aspirent avec leurs joues : Kurrrkh! puis ils grimacent, mettent leurs dents en position et se penchent. Vous vous attendez à un jet d'au moins cinq mètres, comme un cow-boy dans la pampa, mais non, ils ne lui impriment aucune force. Ils crachent rarement à plus de de quelques centimètres. Ils ne crachent pas juste et loin, ils crachent vers le bas; voilà la différence culturelle essentielle que je mis un an à découvrir en Chine. Ce n'est pas un tir net en plein dans le crachoir, c'est une dégoulinade qui coule à l'extérieur de ce répugnant réceptacle. Ils se plient en deux lorsqu'il crachent, avec une flexion des genoux et une courbure de l'échine en guise de préliminaire. Il n'y a rien d'aggressif. C'est presque silencieux. Ils laissent tomber le glaviot et poursuivent leur chemin. Bien sur c'est un pays surpeuplé et il est impossible de balancer un mollard sans taper sur quelqu'un.
Paul Théroux - La Chine à petites vapeurs - 1986
Paul Théroux - La Chine à petites vapeurs - 1986
"Nous ne sommes plus une communauté d'être humains qui se parlent mais un conglomérat de grappes de consommateurs en niches, séparés les uns des autres par des obsessions diverses et innombrables. Nous sommes de l'ère de la désintégration." Marc Moulin (1942-2008) in Humoeurs
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C'est presque silencieux. Ils laissent tomber le glaviot et poursuivent leur chemin. Bien sur c'est un pays surpeuplé et il est impossible de balancer un mollard sans taper sur quelqu'un.--
Silencieux surement pas tant le bruit est fort que tout le monde l'entend. Cé rarement que qqun soit touché par un "lancer" et ca n'a rien a voir avec un peys surpeuplé.
D'ailleurs, il y a des spots TV pour eduquer les chinois d'arreter de cracher sous peine d'amande.
LEs habitudes ne se changent pas si vite... 😏😏😏
Silencieux surement pas tant le bruit est fort que tout le monde l'entend. Cé rarement que qqun soit touché par un "lancer" et ca n'a rien a voir avec un peys surpeuplé.
D'ailleurs, il y a des spots TV pour eduquer les chinois d'arreter de cracher sous peine d'amande.
LEs habitudes ne se changent pas si vite... 😏😏😏
C'est pour ça que j'ai fondé l'AARRCC (Association Anti Rots Raclements et Crachats en Chine) il y a quelques années, distribuant ainsi mes cartes de visite à tous les agresseurs salivaires que je croisais.
J'avais réalisé un petit bêtisier du crachat qui allait de celui qui se crache sur la chemise (à cause du fort vent de face) à celui qui dérape sur son propre crachat en passant par celui qui au moment de cracher se rend compte qu'il porte un masque (période de SRAS) et se met à paniquer, ne sachant que faire du fruit de ses entrailles. Exemples vécus dont j'ai été l'heureux témoin direct.
J'avais réalisé un petit bêtisier du crachat qui allait de celui qui se crache sur la chemise (à cause du fort vent de face) à celui qui dérape sur son propre crachat en passant par celui qui au moment de cracher se rend compte qu'il porte un masque (période de SRAS) et se met à paniquer, ne sachant que faire du fruit de ses entrailles. Exemples vécus dont j'ai été l'heureux témoin direct.
ce que je n'aime pas dans tout ca cé quand une femme le fait.
Moi aussi j'ai été temoins de cas tres drole: un homme roulant sur le perif de pekin avec vitre a moitié baissé, crash en dehors mais le pauvre il rate ton tir et son crachat se trouve sur la vitre en degoulinant (gros crachat) 😏
Moi aussi j'ai été temoins de cas tres drole: un homme roulant sur le perif de pekin avec vitre a moitié baissé, crash en dehors mais le pauvre il rate ton tir et son crachat se trouve sur la vitre en degoulinant (gros crachat) 😏
Tout sauf silencieux !
Mais il y en a tout de même moins qu'il y a 2 ans, même si j'ai vu et entendu des horreurs au petit-déjeuner dans un hôtel près des Wutaishan.
Mais il y en a tout de même moins qu'il y a 2 ans, même si j'ai vu et entendu des horreurs au petit-déjeuner dans un hôtel près des Wutaishan.
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mais si ca me gene mais quand on voit faire une femme ca choque d'avantage 😏
Quand on voit les hommes chinois en été remonté leur t-shirt/chemise ca fait "sourire" 😏
Quand on voit les hommes chinois en été remonté leur t-shirt/chemise ca fait "sourire" 😏
Moi je préfère quand ce sont les femmes qui remontent leur t-shirt ou chemise. 😊
malheureusement je n'ai pas eu la joie d'en voir sauf des chinoises en pyjama sur nankin avenue 😏
Un de mes amis expat en Chine m'a dit qu'il trouvait ça "cute" une chinoise que balance un gros mollard. Devant ma tete médusée, il m'a alors expliquée que lorsque tu entends le mollard qui se "prépare" et le bruit de crachat qui suit, tu t'attends toujours à avoir que son auteur est un gros gars dégueulasse. Sauf que parfois c'est juste une toute petite demoiselle chinoise qui fait tout ce bruit. Du coup, il m'a dit qu'il trouvait ca émouvant. 🙂
Allez comprendre... 😉
Hâte-toi de bien vivre et songe que chaque jour est à lui seule une vie - Sénèque.
Je vais régulièrement en Chine depuis plus de 20 ans et je constate que c'est plutôt moins pire qu'avant. Les crachats au restaurant, dans l'avion et dans le train deviennent plus rares. Ils se font davantage en plein air maintenant
ChR
Le problème c'est que sous l'air, il y a le sol. Et parfois entre l'air et le sol, il y a les pieds.
Oui, mais en général, le râclement de gorge qui précède (et sert d'avertisseur) est suffisamment long et permet d'avoir le temps de se préserver.
Fourbe est celui qui n'avertit pas
ChR
Oui c'est vrai. Mais il faut tenir compte de la vitesse et de la direction du vent ainsi que des circuits de circulation rapide, ce qui n'est pas toujours évident sur un trottoir bondé. Bref, l'exercice n'est pas toujours facile.
Tu oublies de preciser les Chinois de Chine, ceux de Singapour ne le font pas .
A Hong Kong c'etait aussi le cas, concert de raclements de gorges pas tres agréable à entendre en attendant de monter dans le ferry .
la meilleure experience à faire : prendre un bus avec couchettes, dont une rangée centrale. Si tu es taillé en deuxiéme ligne du Stade toulousain, tu vas deborder de la couchette des 2 cotés. Ne prend pas celle du bas dans la rangée centrale ou alors dors avec un parapluie !!. Je ne raconte pas de blagues et pas besoin de plus amples explications.
Apparemment en vue des JO un gros effort va etre fait à Pekin et amendes aux " cracheurs"
En Chine il y a des choses surprenantes : exemple les toilettes de la Chine profonde ??? tu vas à l'urinoir public, tous tes voisins se penchent pour regarder comment est fichue la zézette du "long-nez " Ou alors tu es tranquillement en train de soulager ta vessie, un chinois arrive s'accroupit à 30 cms de toi, s'accroupit au dessus d'une rigole et pas gené du tout, baisse son pantalon . Je passe les details ...
la meilleure experience à faire : prendre un bus avec couchettes, dont une rangée centrale. Si tu es taillé en deuxiéme ligne du Stade toulousain, tu vas deborder de la couchette des 2 cotés. Ne prend pas celle du bas dans la rangée centrale ou alors dors avec un parapluie !!. Je ne raconte pas de blagues et pas besoin de plus amples explications.
Apparemment en vue des JO un gros effort va etre fait à Pekin et amendes aux " cracheurs"
En Chine il y a des choses surprenantes : exemple les toilettes de la Chine profonde ??? tu vas à l'urinoir public, tous tes voisins se penchent pour regarder comment est fichue la zézette du "long-nez " Ou alors tu es tranquillement en train de soulager ta vessie, un chinois arrive s'accroupit à 30 cms de toi, s'accroupit au dessus d'une rigole et pas gené du tout, baisse son pantalon . Je passe les details ...
il y a des spots TV en chine depuis 2000/2001 pour changer les habitudes des chinois pour ne pas cracher. J'ai de gros doutes que cela s'arrete pour les JO car depuis 7ans ca s'est pas arreter.
tu n'as pas vu les wc alignés dans les centres commerciaux ou il n y a pas de porte et quand il y en a personnes ne ferment et continuent la discussion: un faisant son gros besoin et son ami en face de lui le regardant 😏
tu n'as pas vu les wc alignés dans les centres commerciaux ou il n y a pas de porte et quand il y en a personnes ne ferment et continuent la discussion: un faisant son gros besoin et son ami en face de lui le regardant 😏
"Ou alors tu es tranquillement en train de soulager ta vessie, un chinois arrive s'accroupit à 30 cms de toi, s'accroupit au dessus d'une rigole et pas gené du tout, baisse son pantalon . "
Et parfois en profite pour sortir son téléphone portable et commencer une discussion avec un copain. Le plus insolite vu dans des toilette publiques, c'était un type accroupi qui jouait à la game boy. Encore une photo que je n'ai pas osé faire....
Et parfois en profite pour sortir son téléphone portable et commencer une discussion avec un copain. Le plus insolite vu dans des toilette publiques, c'était un type accroupi qui jouait à la game boy. Encore une photo que je n'ai pas osé faire....
ChR
Effectivement, ce n'est pas terrible.
Lorsque je suis allé en Chine, j'ai été franchement dégoûté par cette pratique répandue. Mais le pire, c'est quand ma belle-mère (chinoise) est venue faire un séjour en France et que j'entendais, dans ma maison, les rots et raclements de gorge. On a essayé de lui expliquer que cela ne se faisait pas chez nous, mais elle s'est mise en colère et a dit que si elle crachait c'était à cause de la pollution à Changchun, et que les Français ne crachent pas parce que ce n'est pas pollué chez nous. J'aurais voulu lui dire que toute la Chine n'est pas polluée et qu'il y a beaucoup de villes dans le monde qui sont très polluées et où les gens ne passent pas leur temps à cracher(comme Paris), mais j'ai préféré ne pas poursuivre ce débat stérile car il ne pouvait déboucher sur rien de bon.
cé vrai que Changchun est tres pollué mais il ya bcp de jolies filles 😏
Bonjour,
Je suis allée en Chine dernièrement et j'en ai vu très peu cracher.
Il y a beaucoup de publicité de fait pour conscientiser la population.
Nine
Je suis allée en Chine dernièrement et j'en ai vu très peu cracher.
Il y a beaucoup de publicité de fait pour conscientiser la population.
Nine
tres peu!!!
vous etes rester combien de temps et etes vous partie en groupe?
on en voit sans difficulté dans la rue et la publicité ne change rien.
on en voit sans difficulté dans la rue et la publicité ne change rien.
Ca me fait penser à une soirée que j'ai passé chez un sculpteur chinois pres de Shanghai. Un ami artiste nous avait invité, moi et des amis, à venir avec lui et on a vraiment passé une super soirée dans la famille du sculpteur. Le sculpteur nous a recu avec sa famille et une dizaine d'amis, ils nous ont recu comme des rois, c'était adorable.
La maison du sculpteur etait aménagée dans une sorte de serre (son atelier était à l'arriere), ce qui fait que le sol etait fait de ciment brut. Je ne sais pas si ca aurait été la meme chose si le sol avait été fait de carrelage, mais un des invités chinois passaient son temps à lacher (pas cracher hein, mais plutot lacher délicatement!) d'enormes molards sous la table. 🤪
Dans la rue, ca ne m'étonnait plus trop, mais carrement sous la table, là j'étais quand meme un peu génée. 🙂
Hâte-toi de bien vivre et songe que chaque jour est à lui seule une vie - Sénèque.
Je suis allée en Chine dernièrement et j'en ai vu très peu cracher.
Ni entendu ?
Ni entendu ?
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A l'exterieur comme à l'intérieur, sol bétoné ou moquette, bureau ou restaurant, rien n'arrête le besoin de cracher de nos amis chinois! Certes le bruit annonciateur nous permet d'éviter toutes mauvaises surprises (quoique...) mais le matin il faut bien se replier dans un petit coin de l'ascenseur vierge de tout crachat si on ne veut pas avoir un truc gluant qui reste accroché à sa chaussure! Sans compter, cette période ou les 1eres vagues de froid amènent son lot de rhume, et au bureau la poubelle se transforme en crachoir collectif et on a droit à un concert de raclement de gorge toute la journée...
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1. 2-3 days in Tokyo
2. Fujigoko stop: Mount Mitsutoge - Planned hike: https://www.alltrails.com/fr/randonnee/japan/yamanashi/mount-mitsutoge-trail
3. Suwa / Matsumoto stop: Kirigamine Plateau & Lake Suwa - Planned hike: https://www.alltrails.com/fr/randonnee/japan/nagano/kirigamine-mount-kuruma-yashimagahara-wetland-loop - Matsumoto Castle
4. Nagano stop: Togakushi Sacred Forest - Hike among giant cedars: https://www.alltrails.com/trail/japan/nagano/togakushi-shrine-okusha or https://www.alltrails.com/fr/randonnee/japan/nagano/mount-togakushi-trail - Ebisu-ko fireworks
5. Kiso Valley stop - Senjojiki Cirque - Magome-Tsumago hike: https://www.alltrails.com/trail/japan/gifu/nakasendo-magome-tsumago
6. 3-4 days in Kyoto - Mount Kurama: https://www.alltrails.com/trail/japan/kyoto/kurama-trail
7. 2-3 days in Tokyo
I’m still checking if this is doable time-wise. We’d love to soak up each place, enjoy the food and onsens, and stay in a ryokan at one of the stops.
Hi there,
I’d like to do this cycling route over 2 or 3 days. I’m struggling to figure out and find a (good) bike rental that lets me start in Onomichi and drop off in Imabari. Can anyone help with great tips for rentals and accommodations along the route? How do I get back to Onomichi afterward?
Hey everyone,
Next year, we’re celebrating 20 years of marriage (and travel 🙂), and we’re looking for something new, pretty legendary, and something the teens will enjoy too.
The family council has settled on Japan for now. And it’d have to be a summer trip—no choice there.
The catch: I keep reading that August isn’t the right season for southern Japan. It’s hot, humid, and there’s a risk of typhoons… Okay, but what does that *actually* mean in practice? Are there any travelers who’ve been there during this time? Is it *that* unbearable? We’re pretty familiar with Southeast Asia—last year, we dealt with scorching heat in Vietnam and insane humidity, plus a typhoon we experienced from a distance, and visiting Angkor in the blazing sun. Is it worse than that?
Thanks for your feedback 😉
Next year, we’re celebrating 20 years of marriage (and travel 🙂), and we’re looking for something new, pretty legendary, and something the teens will enjoy too.
The family council has settled on Japan for now. And it’d have to be a summer trip—no choice there.
The catch: I keep reading that August isn’t the right season for southern Japan. It’s hot, humid, and there’s a risk of typhoons… Okay, but what does that *actually* mean in practice? Are there any travelers who’ve been there during this time? Is it *that* unbearable? We’re pretty familiar with Southeast Asia—last year, we dealt with scorching heat in Vietnam and insane humidity, plus a typhoon we experienced from a distance, and visiting Angkor in the blazing sun. Is it worse than that?
Thanks for your feedback 😉
hi there
I’m back with my detailed itinerary for 20 days in South Korea—it’s my first trip to the country. Our idea is to experience a more rural and cultural Korea. Here’s the rough plan: Seoul for 4 nights at the start and 1 night at the end, Gurye for 4 nights, Suncheon for 4 nights, Namhae for 4 nights, and Gyeongju for 2 nights. The goal is to pick a base and explore the surrounding areas. What do you think of this itinerary? Anything you’d change? thanks
philippe
I’m back with my detailed itinerary for 20 days in South Korea—it’s my first trip to the country. Our idea is to experience a more rural and cultural Korea. Here’s the rough plan: Seoul for 4 nights at the start and 1 night at the end, Gurye for 4 nights, Suncheon for 4 nights, Namhae for 4 nights, and Gyeongju for 2 nights. The goal is to pick a base and explore the surrounding areas. What do you think of this itinerary? Anything you’d change? thanks
philippe
hi everyone, we're heading out for a 12-day trek in the Japanese Alps. We're bringing freeze-dried meals like we always do. We just found out that importing meat is banned, even freeze-dried. Is that true? We already bought them. They're commercially made freeze-dried meals. Online, it's not specified that they have to be "commercially made" because you can make your own freeze-dried food. And since we've heard they're really strict in Japan, can anyone confirm this for us? thanks
Hi there,
I haven’t found what I’m looking for despite my searches!
For a 15-day trip next spring, I’d like to buy a card (preferably an eSIM, but a physical SIM is fine too) that also lets me make calls in the country (to contact a hotel, a tourist spot, etc.).
You can easily find options just for data, but I haven’t come across any that include calls, texts, or even MMS. Could you recommend something?
Thanks in advance
I haven’t found what I’m looking for despite my searches!
For a 15-day trip next spring, I’d like to buy a card (preferably an eSIM, but a physical SIM is fine too) that also lets me make calls in the country (to contact a hotel, a tourist spot, etc.).
You can easily find options just for data, but I haven’t come across any that include calls, texts, or even MMS. Could you recommend something?
Thanks in advance
hi there
I’m planning a trip in September—here’s my rough itinerary. What do you think? Is it easy to rent a car to get around between my stops? Thanks so much!
Philippe StopNightsFull daysSeoul44Gurye (Jirisan)43Suncheon43Namhae43Gyeongju21Seoul1—
Philippe StopNightsFull daysSeoul44Gurye (Jirisan)43Suncheon43Namhae43Gyeongju21Seoul1—
Hi,
July 2026: I’m writing to you from Dali.
First, I got scammed on Booking—AI-retouched photos. No tourists at this hotel (Yishanju Designer Hotel), and the reality was horrible: dirty, with a disgusting breakfast. It’s better to use Trip.com here.
Next, the old town was an infernal cacophony, packed with tourists who shoved past without a care. Some vendors harassed you to buy things. All the stalls sold the same cheap plastic junk or other uninteresting stuff. The beautiful scenery was ruined by vendors lining 100% of the alleys. Impossible to walk, crushing heat, nothing good to eat except fresh fruit. Horrible experience.
Day 2: We went to Cangshan Mountain by cable car—the ride was short and nothing spectacular. We were at 2,600 m.
My plan was to see Erhai Lake. Unfortunately, I followed the advice of an AI chatbot: take the boat at Langkan Dock. The Didi dropped us off in the nearest area, which was full of charming little alleys but packed with Chinese tourists. The three-wheeled yellow cabs zoomed through the narrow streets, forcing you to hug the walls, on top of the scooters and other pedestrians to deal with. Crossing the neighborhood was hellish and suffocating. Once out, we hit the "corniche," which was also packed with Chinese tourists. The lake’s edge was all pebbles, and everyone was standing around taking photos. I was with my 5-year-old son. I would’ve liked to sit down and let him play with stones by the water, but it was clear we didn’t belong. They were even shoving each other for a shot! There were no boats in sight. In short, we’d had enough, and there was nothing interesting there either.
On the way back, we had to cross that maze again under the scorching sun. My son was braver than me—I even had a little dizzy spell from all the chaos. Add to that Dali’s altitude (2,200 m), so altitude insomnia, fatigue, and vulnerability during the day...
The restaurants weren’t inviting—the staff served sticky rice in a little bucket. The dishes were wrapped, and you had to figure it out yourself. After that, they ignored you completely, even if you were the only tourist.
On the 3rd day, it was time to leave for Shaxi. I hope to see beautiful villages. But honestly, I’m exhausted by this atmosphere where everything is complicated, communication is never smooth, noise is everywhere, and the behavior of some Chinese people is abusive...
Silver lining: not a drop of rain in 4 days and blue skies.
I couldn’t visit the villages in southern Yunnan because of rain and storms there... But I was expecting to see a few more tourists.
I couldn’t visit the villages in southern Yunnan because of rain and storms there... But I was expecting to see a few more tourists.
Hi,
Great article that really captures what makes South Korea so appealing!
South Korea: Between Hallyu and the search for authenticity, the French are falling for the destination
Great article that really captures what makes South Korea so appealing!
South Korea: Between Hallyu and the search for authenticity, the French are falling for the destination
Hello,
We’re planning a 17-day trip to South Korea in October 2026 with my husband and our daughters, who’ll be 9 years old.
I’d love to get your thoughts on our draft itinerary.
First, some key details:
1/ Jeju Island is a must for us. I’ve personally dreamed of going there for years after reading a novel about it. 2/ Our girls are used to road-trip style travel since they were born, so this kind of trip won’t be an issue for them. 3/ We plan to travel by train, except on Jeju where we’ll rent a car (we already have an international driver’s permit).
Itinerary:
Seoul: 1 arrival day at 10 AM + 4 full days Gyeongju: 2 days Busan: 3 days Jeju: 4 days Seoul: 2 days
Thanks for your feedback! Have a great day,
Sabrina
We’re planning a 17-day trip to South Korea in October 2026 with my husband and our daughters, who’ll be 9 years old.
I’d love to get your thoughts on our draft itinerary.
First, some key details:
1/ Jeju Island is a must for us. I’ve personally dreamed of going there for years after reading a novel about it. 2/ Our girls are used to road-trip style travel since they were born, so this kind of trip won’t be an issue for them. 3/ We plan to travel by train, except on Jeju where we’ll rent a car (we already have an international driver’s permit).
Itinerary:
Seoul: 1 arrival day at 10 AM + 4 full days Gyeongju: 2 days Busan: 3 days Jeju: 4 days Seoul: 2 days
Thanks for your feedback! Have a great day,
Sabrina
Hi there,
My girlfriend (23) and I (24) are heading to Japan for the first time from October 20th to November 6th. Here’s our itinerary:
6 nights in Tokyo 1 night in Hakone (ryokan already booked) 4 nights in Kyoto (hotel already booked) 2 nights in Osaka 4 nights back in Tokyo I’d like to book hotels for Tokyo (both stays) and Osaka, but I’ve gotten so many different recommendations.
I’ve read that Shinjuku is the place to be for its huge hub, accessibility, and things to do, but I’ve also heard about Shibuya, Asakusa, and Ueno. I’ve looked at hotels, and first off, I’m surprised by the prices compared to what I’ve seen on forums (I guess inflation’s hit here too… and maybe I’m late to the booking game?). I’m feeling a bit overwhelmed with all the options.
For our first stay in Tokyo, I’d prefer a hotel (not a residence or Airbnb) since we’ll be arriving at night, and it’s our first time in Japan. It’d be great to have a place with a reception, staff who speak at least a little English, and can give us some guidance. For the second stay, we could consider other options if it’s better. Budget-wise, we can go up to 150–180 € per night, but if we can save some money to spend elsewhere, that’d be amazing!
I’m open to all recommendations, hotel suggestions, or any other tips for Tokyo (first stay), Osaka, and Tokyo (second stay).
Thanks so much!
6 nights in Tokyo 1 night in Hakone (ryokan already booked) 4 nights in Kyoto (hotel already booked) 2 nights in Osaka 4 nights back in Tokyo I’d like to book hotels for Tokyo (both stays) and Osaka, but I’ve gotten so many different recommendations.
I’ve read that Shinjuku is the place to be for its huge hub, accessibility, and things to do, but I’ve also heard about Shibuya, Asakusa, and Ueno. I’ve looked at hotels, and first off, I’m surprised by the prices compared to what I’ve seen on forums (I guess inflation’s hit here too… and maybe I’m late to the booking game?). I’m feeling a bit overwhelmed with all the options.
For our first stay in Tokyo, I’d prefer a hotel (not a residence or Airbnb) since we’ll be arriving at night, and it’s our first time in Japan. It’d be great to have a place with a reception, staff who speak at least a little English, and can give us some guidance. For the second stay, we could consider other options if it’s better. Budget-wise, we can go up to 150–180 € per night, but if we can save some money to spend elsewhere, that’d be amazing!
I’m open to all recommendations, hotel suggestions, or any other tips for Tokyo (first stay), Osaka, and Tokyo (second stay).
Thanks so much!
Hi there.
I’m traveling solo to China in October '26, heading to these spots:
Guilin - Yangshuo - Chengdu – Leshan – Chongqing – Zhangjiajie - Furong – Shanghai
Any guides you’d recommend?
Tons of "agencies" (gowithguide, Hellechinaguide, etc.) offer guides. Can I reach out to them? I also speak English.
Any other tips for me?
Thanks! !
Guilin - Yangshuo - Chengdu – Leshan – Chongqing – Zhangjiajie - Furong – Shanghai
Any guides you’d recommend?
Tons of "agencies" (gowithguide, Hellechinaguide, etc.) offer guides. Can I reach out to them? I also speak English.
Any other tips for me?
Thanks! !
Hi there,
I’m getting ready for a classic tourist trip to China in May 2026.
The "Terres Lointaines" itinerary looks good to me, and the price is interesting.
Has anyone traveled with them before? Any feedback?
Is there a better option?
Thanks so much for sharing your experiences on this!
Michel
hi, does anyone have suggestions or contacts for a private local driver without going through a big travel agency for a multi-day trip in Yunnan?
thanks for any info
thanks for any info
Hi there,
I just booked my hotel in Seoul—it’ll be near Unhyeongung, on Samil-Daero 30-Gil—and I’m wondering if there’s public transport from the airport to this address (bus or subway)? If not, what’s the taxi fare? I read it’s around 50 or 60 €.
I just booked my hotel in Seoul—it’ll be near Unhyeongung, on Samil-Daero 30-Gil—and I’m wondering if there’s public transport from the airport to this address (bus or subway)? If not, what’s the taxi fare? I read it’s around 50 or 60 €.
I’m traveling to Japan with a young adult with autism (ASD) from July 28 to August 8, following a pretty classic route: Osaka, Hiroshima, Kyoto, and Tokyo. I’m looking for a schedule of the most spectacular fireworks displays during that time. So far, the dates for the major *hanabi* events aren’t available online yet. If anyone has them, I’d really appreciate it if you could share!
Hi there,
We’ll be doing a self-drive trip using public transport in May 2026.
On Day 6, we’ll arrive in Hakone by train from Tokyo in late morning. We’ll spend the night in Hakone before heading to Kyoto.
The main goal of this stop is clearly the view (no hiking) of Mount Fuji, not so much exploring Hakone, where the sights seem limited. I’ve read on the forum that the view is great from Gotemba, but it also takes a good hour by bus to get there. And, apart from that view, there’s nothing else to see in Gotemba!
So, I’m not sure what to choose. Any thoughts? Or alternatives to suggest? Maybe some spots in Hakone or Gotemba for a great view?
Thanks in advance.
We’ll be doing a self-drive trip using public transport in May 2026.
On Day 6, we’ll arrive in Hakone by train from Tokyo in late morning. We’ll spend the night in Hakone before heading to Kyoto.
The main goal of this stop is clearly the view (no hiking) of Mount Fuji, not so much exploring Hakone, where the sights seem limited. I’ve read on the forum that the view is great from Gotemba, but it also takes a good hour by bus to get there. And, apart from that view, there’s nothing else to see in Gotemba!
So, I’m not sure what to choose. Any thoughts? Or alternatives to suggest? Maybe some spots in Hakone or Gotemba for a great view?
Thanks in advance.
Hi everyone, I’m Julien!
This summer, from late June to late July, I’m planning a one-month solo trip to Japan—my first time!
I’d love to hear your thoughts and advice on the itinerary I’ve put together to explore this amazing country.
Here are the routes I’m considering:
**Option 1: More mountain and nature-focused**
Tokyo: 8 nights, with day trips to Nikko and maybe the Izu Peninsula Kawaguchiko (Lake Kawaguchi/Mt. Fuji): 1 night. The place looks stunning, but I’m worried Mt. Fuji might not be visible due to the weather Kyoto: 6–7 nights (including a trip to Nara) Osaka: 1–2 nights, where I’d like to drop off my things to make the Kumano Kodo easier Kumano Kodo: 3 nights—an experience I haven’t seen much elsewhere, but I thought it sounded really interesting Hiroshima: 2 nights Miyajima: 1 night Takayama: 3 days Kanazawa: 3 days (From what I understand, the Osaka–Takayama–Kanazawa–Tokyo route is convenient for transport) Tokyo: 1 night (return)
**Option 2: More varied but a bit vague in parts**
Tokyo: 8 nights Kyoto: 7 nights (+ Nara) Osaka: 2 nights Kobe + Himeji: just passing through—I’m not sure if it’s worth a night Naoshima: 1 night—still pretty unclear for me Takamatsu: 2 nights. An interesting city, but I’m not sure how long to stay Shimanami Kaido: biking from Imabari to Onomichi, then heading to Hiroshima Hiroshima: 2 nights Miyajima: 1 night Kyushu road trip (Aso + onsens + Fukuoka): 5 nights (also pretty vague—I could fly from Fukuoka back to Tokyo) Tokyo: 1 night
**Option 3: More balanced/simplified**
Tokyo: 8 nights Kawaguchiko: 1 night Kyoto: 7 nights (+ Nara) Osaka: 2 nights Koya-san: 1 night Kumano Kodo: 3 nights Takayama: 3 nights Kanazawa: 3 nights Tokyo: 1 night
A few key points: I haven’t made any reservations yet, except for the flight tickets. I know my plans are too packed and will need to be adjusted. I’m specifically looking for advice on which stops to cut or shorten.
Here are the routes I’m considering:
**Option 1: More mountain and nature-focused**
Tokyo: 8 nights, with day trips to Nikko and maybe the Izu Peninsula Kawaguchiko (Lake Kawaguchi/Mt. Fuji): 1 night. The place looks stunning, but I’m worried Mt. Fuji might not be visible due to the weather Kyoto: 6–7 nights (including a trip to Nara) Osaka: 1–2 nights, where I’d like to drop off my things to make the Kumano Kodo easier Kumano Kodo: 3 nights—an experience I haven’t seen much elsewhere, but I thought it sounded really interesting Hiroshima: 2 nights Miyajima: 1 night Takayama: 3 days Kanazawa: 3 days (From what I understand, the Osaka–Takayama–Kanazawa–Tokyo route is convenient for transport) Tokyo: 1 night (return)
**Option 2: More varied but a bit vague in parts**
Tokyo: 8 nights Kyoto: 7 nights (+ Nara) Osaka: 2 nights Kobe + Himeji: just passing through—I’m not sure if it’s worth a night Naoshima: 1 night—still pretty unclear for me Takamatsu: 2 nights. An interesting city, but I’m not sure how long to stay Shimanami Kaido: biking from Imabari to Onomichi, then heading to Hiroshima Hiroshima: 2 nights Miyajima: 1 night Kyushu road trip (Aso + onsens + Fukuoka): 5 nights (also pretty vague—I could fly from Fukuoka back to Tokyo) Tokyo: 1 night
**Option 3: More balanced/simplified**
Tokyo: 8 nights Kawaguchiko: 1 night Kyoto: 7 nights (+ Nara) Osaka: 2 nights Koya-san: 1 night Kumano Kodo: 3 nights Takayama: 3 nights Kanazawa: 3 nights Tokyo: 1 night
A few key points: I haven’t made any reservations yet, except for the flight tickets. I know my plans are too packed and will need to be adjusted. I’m specifically looking for advice on which stops to cut or shorten.
Hello everyone,
Like Cedric13600, I’ve booked a flight ticket for 30 days / 29 nights in September 2026, from Beijing to Shanghai. We’re a couple in our sixties who love independent road trips.
I’d like to draw inspiration from the following private itinerary suggested by a travel agency:
Day 1: Arrival in Beijing Day 2 to 4: Beijing Day 5: Datong Day 6 & 7: Pingyao Day 8 to 10: Xi'an Day 11: Luoyang Day 12: Dengfeng flight Day 13 & 14: Chongqing flight Day 15 & 16: Lijiang Day 17: Dali Day 18: Kunming Day 19: Jianshui Day 20 & 21: Yuanyang Day 22: Travel via Guilin Day 23 & 24: Yangshuo Day 25: Guilin Day 26 & 27: Zhangjiajie flight Day 28 & 29: Shanghai Day 30: Departure from Shanghai
But to do this itinerary independently: 1. This schedule seems very ambitious to me—what do you think? 2. If it’s too packed, what would you remove as a priority? Thanks so much in advance for your help.
Day 1: Arrival in Beijing Day 2 to 4: Beijing Day 5: Datong Day 6 & 7: Pingyao Day 8 to 10: Xi'an Day 11: Luoyang Day 12: Dengfeng flight Day 13 & 14: Chongqing flight Day 15 & 16: Lijiang Day 17: Dali Day 18: Kunming Day 19: Jianshui Day 20 & 21: Yuanyang Day 22: Travel via Guilin Day 23 & 24: Yangshuo Day 25: Guilin Day 26 & 27: Zhangjiajie flight Day 28 & 29: Shanghai Day 30: Departure from Shanghai
But to do this itinerary independently: 1. This schedule seems very ambitious to me—what do you think? 2. If it’s too packed, what would you remove as a priority? Thanks so much in advance for your help.
Hello everyone,
I’m planning a 5-week trip between Yunnan and Sichuan from mid-October to the end of November 2026: Arriving in Kunming, I’ll do a loop in the far south of Yunnan via Thonghai, Jhiansu, Zhemi, Yuanyang, Nafa, Jinping, Mengzi, and Shilin (visiting markets, villages, and hiking), then head to northern Yunnan/southern Sichuan on the same theme (passing through Kunming again) via Dongchuan, Huize, Qiaojia, Puge, Xichang, Lanba, Butuo, Huolie, Dimo, Riha, Niuniuba, Meigu, Mabian, and Leshan, before arriving in Chengdu (where I’ll take my return flight to Paris). This would be a trip with a strong ethnic/rural focus. Since I’ve never traveled in China, I’d love to hear your thoughts on doing this solo. Are there public transport options in the region? What tips do you have for traveling through this area as smoothly and enjoyably as possible? I’ve done quite a bit of backpacking in the mountains of northern Vietnam and really enjoyed using local motorbike drivers. Is something like that available in this region (through local tourist agencies or hotels)?
What should I be cautious about? Are local tourist agencies (or hotels) offering tours and guides reliable? If you know of any specialized sites sharing tips or experiences, or names of local agencies, hotels, etc., please don’t hesitate to share them! :)
In short, all your advice (on any topic that comes to mind!) is very welcome. Thanks so much!
I’m planning a 5-week trip between Yunnan and Sichuan from mid-October to the end of November 2026: Arriving in Kunming, I’ll do a loop in the far south of Yunnan via Thonghai, Jhiansu, Zhemi, Yuanyang, Nafa, Jinping, Mengzi, and Shilin (visiting markets, villages, and hiking), then head to northern Yunnan/southern Sichuan on the same theme (passing through Kunming again) via Dongchuan, Huize, Qiaojia, Puge, Xichang, Lanba, Butuo, Huolie, Dimo, Riha, Niuniuba, Meigu, Mabian, and Leshan, before arriving in Chengdu (where I’ll take my return flight to Paris). This would be a trip with a strong ethnic/rural focus. Since I’ve never traveled in China, I’d love to hear your thoughts on doing this solo. Are there public transport options in the region? What tips do you have for traveling through this area as smoothly and enjoyably as possible? I’ve done quite a bit of backpacking in the mountains of northern Vietnam and really enjoyed using local motorbike drivers. Is something like that available in this region (through local tourist agencies or hotels)?
What should I be cautious about? Are local tourist agencies (or hotels) offering tours and guides reliable? If you know of any specialized sites sharing tips or experiences, or names of local agencies, hotels, etc., please don’t hesitate to share them! :)
In short, all your advice (on any topic that comes to mind!) is very welcome. Thanks so much!
Hi,
While researching South Korea, I came across the term "templestay," which refers to a Korean program that lets you stay in a traditional temple to discover Buddhism and Korean culture by living like the temple residents and doing activities like making lanterns. A templestay isn’t just for foreign tourists—on the booking site, I saw that some temples are more geared toward foreigners, with English-speaking monks.
I was wondering if it’s still worth it, especially in temples where the monks don’t speak English?
While researching South Korea, I came across the term "templestay," which refers to a Korean program that lets you stay in a traditional temple to discover Buddhism and Korean culture by living like the temple residents and doing activities like making lanterns. A templestay isn’t just for foreign tourists—on the booking site, I saw that some temples are more geared toward foreigners, with English-speaking monks.
I was wondering if it’s still worth it, especially in temples where the monks don’t speak English?
I'm 69 years old and heading to China, where most tourist sites are free or discounted for me. However, trip.com either refuses to let me book because the sites are free or doesn’t apply the discount. Does WeChat apply this discount if I book through them? How can I just reserve without paying and pay on-site? Is that possible?
How do I upload my passport to WeChat?
Thanks for your tips. Elisabeth
How do I upload my passport to WeChat?
Thanks for your tips. Elisabeth






