Durée et coût du trajet Pekin-Ulan Bator en Mongolie?
by Kinou2007
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
salut
pouvez vous me dire la durée du trajet en train entre pekin et ulaanbator, le cout A/R et la frequence pendant l'été? est ce que ca craint pur une fille seule?
MERCi, bonne nuit!!
karine
kinou
pour Kinou2007
Alors pour ton voyage
Tu peux acheter ton billet directement a la gare de pékin ou par agence mais tu rajoutes les frais environ 50 a 90 rmb
Pour Obtenir le visa mongol Il n’est pas possible d’obtenir le visa mongol aux frontières ou à l’aéroport. Il est cependant facile de l’obtenir auprès du consulat. Clic sur le lien pour les infos et télécharger le formulaire obligatoire pour ton visa
http://www.ambassademongolie.fr/Informations%20consulaires.html
Ton voyage Pékin-Ulan Bator =train K23 départ mardi et samedi a 7h40--arrivée mercredi ou dimanche a 13h15 Ulan Bator-Pékin= train K24 départ jeudi et vendredi a 8h50-- arrivée mercredi ou jeudi a 15h33
Pekin -Moscou =K3 depert mercredi a 7h40—arrivee(Ulan Bator) jeudi a 13h15 Moscou –Pékin = K4depart(Ulan Bator) dimanche a 7h50 –arrive lundi a 14h31
Pour le prix ALLER SIMPLEPERS En couchette de luxe 1031 RMB. En couchette soft (4pers) 845 RMB. En couchette dur (6 Pers) 605 a 656 RMB.
SINON TU AS L`AVION aller-retour 2800 RMB+117 RMB (taxes aéroport) avec la compagnie MIAT (CA902) Sinon Air China a 3400 RMB+117 RMB (taxes aeroport)
bon voyage
Pour Obtenir le visa mongol Il n’est pas possible d’obtenir le visa mongol aux frontières ou à l’aéroport. Il est cependant facile de l’obtenir auprès du consulat. Clic sur le lien pour les infos et télécharger le formulaire obligatoire pour ton visa
http://www.ambassademongolie.fr/Informations%20consulaires.html
Ton voyage Pékin-Ulan Bator =train K23 départ mardi et samedi a 7h40--arrivée mercredi ou dimanche a 13h15 Ulan Bator-Pékin= train K24 départ jeudi et vendredi a 8h50-- arrivée mercredi ou jeudi a 15h33
Pekin -Moscou =K3 depert mercredi a 7h40—arrivee(Ulan Bator) jeudi a 13h15 Moscou –Pékin = K4depart(Ulan Bator) dimanche a 7h50 –arrive lundi a 14h31
Pour le prix ALLER SIMPLEPERS En couchette de luxe 1031 RMB. En couchette soft (4pers) 845 RMB. En couchette dur (6 Pers) 605 a 656 RMB.
SINON TU AS L`AVION aller-retour 2800 RMB+117 RMB (taxes aéroport) avec la compagnie MIAT (CA902) Sinon Air China a 3400 RMB+117 RMB (taxes aeroport)
bon voyage
Il n'y a d'homme plus complet que celui qui a beaucoup voyagé, qui a changé vingt fois la forme de sa pensée et de sa vie.
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arvie 😏
Bonjour,
grâce au super infos de Stialou (merci!) nous on prendrai bien le Pekin -Moscou =K3 depert mercredi a 7h40—arrivee(Ulan Bator) jeudi a 13h15...
Bonjour Stialou et merci pour ces infos précieuses :)
Il me semble qu'il n'y a pas vraiment de différence entre hard et soft sleep, pourrais-tu m'éclairer à ce sujet?
Sais tu si on aura encore de la place en achetant les billets la veille?
Merci ;)
Les trains chinois se distinguent par quatre ou cinq types de sièges. Les sièges durs en skaï ou en bois, au dossier très raide, sont souvent pris d'assaut par la foule. Viennent ensuite les sièges soft consistant en banquettes larges et confortables. Ensuite les couchettes dures, se répartissent sur trois niveaux dans un compartiment de 6 places. Enfin, les couchettes soft sont de loin les places les plus agréables pour passer une nuit dans un train chinois. Leurs compartiments ne comptent que 4 places.et pour finir les couchettes luxe comporte 2 places très romantique http://www.seat61.com/China.htm#Z%20trains Concernant la disponibilité des places je peux rien affirmer, il faut voir sur place et te renseigner a la gare mais en général il n`y as pas de problème sauf au période de fêtes chinoises ou vacances scolaires.
bon voyage
Il n'y a d'homme plus complet que celui qui a beaucoup voyagé, qui a changé vingt fois la forme de sa pensée et de sa vie.
Merci ;)
apparement le train K3 du mercredi est réservé aux Russes...
Comment est-ce possible? :(
salut 😎
nous sommes surpris de cette annonce 🤪 pouvez-vous donner votre source sur cette info? demain on tel a la gare centrale pour infos et on vous tiens au courant
merci a plus 😏
nous sommes surpris de cette annonce 🤪 pouvez-vous donner votre source sur cette info? demain on tel a la gare centrale pour infos et on vous tiens au courant
merci a plus 😏
Il n'y a d'homme plus complet que celui qui a beaucoup voyagé, qui a changé vingt fois la forme de sa pensée et de sa vie.
Bonjour,
Je suis aussi interressée par le trajet Pekin Oulan Bataar Je voyagerai vers le 20 aout avec mon mari et mes deux garcons 15 et 11 ans .Apparament le samedi il n y a pas de soft sleeper pour 4 mais simplement des hard sleeper sur le K 23 Pourriez vous me confirmer? Merci beaucoup
Catherine
Je suis aussi interressée par le trajet Pekin Oulan Bataar Je voyagerai vers le 20 aout avec mon mari et mes deux garcons 15 et 11 ans .Apparament le samedi il n y a pas de soft sleeper pour 4 mais simplement des hard sleeper sur le K 23 Pourriez vous me confirmer? Merci beaucoup
Catherine
J'ai reçu ce mail d'une agence à pékin qui s'appelle Ocean Travel" qui m'a été recommandée et dont les infos sont censées être fiables.
Voici la réponse du Monsieur:
Train to UB only travels on Tue and Sat, both leaves at 7:40 am, hard sleeper(4-beds cabin) US$90/person on Tue and US$95/person on Sat, deluxe sleeper(2-beds cabin) both US$140/person.Wed train is trans-sibirian train to Moscow, though with stop at UB but tickets only sold to people to Russia. All rates above with booking service fee included. Need name, nationality and passport number to make exact reservation. Aug still peak season to Mongolia, most trains at beginning of Aug packed already, need to speed.
J'ai alors demandé si on pouvait prendre un train chinois pour Erlian puis une train mongol pour UB mais apparement le seul train pour UB de la frontière part le samedi... Je panique un peu du coup... Merci pour ton aide :) Anaïs.
Train to UB only travels on Tue and Sat, both leaves at 7:40 am, hard sleeper(4-beds cabin) US$90/person on Tue and US$95/person on Sat, deluxe sleeper(2-beds cabin) both US$140/person.Wed train is trans-sibirian train to Moscow, though with stop at UB but tickets only sold to people to Russia. All rates above with booking service fee included. Need name, nationality and passport number to make exact reservation. Aug still peak season to Mongolia, most trains at beginning of Aug packed already, need to speed.
J'ai alors demandé si on pouvait prendre un train chinois pour Erlian puis une train mongol pour UB mais apparement le seul train pour UB de la frontière part le samedi... Je panique un peu du coup... Merci pour ton aide :) Anaïs.
comment vous allez vous y prendre finalement?
coucou,
on est passé par la mème personne richard tian...on a réservé les billets A/R on prendra donc le train de pékin à UB mardi matin.
Je suis en train de faire le virement pour payer les ticket...en espérant ne pas ce faire entuber!!!mais ça à l'air sérieux...
A mon avis faite vite pour réserver vos tickets...par la frontière ça a l'air bien galère au moins TROIS jours de + que par le transsibérien!!!
tenez nous au courant
olivier et andréane
Salut
Nous avons enquêté sur votre problème et nous avons demandé a nos amies de revérifier les dire au tel .le train Z3 est accessible a toutes personnes sauf que pour tous achats de billets vous devez présenter vos visas pour chaque frontière. Je pense que votre agence a simplement des arrangements financiers ou un lot des billets pour tel train et qu`il écoule son stock. C`est fréquent ici.
Tout comme les vendeurs a la sauvette qui achète des dizaines de tickets pour les destinations les plus demander et lorsque vous passez a la gare on vous répondre le train est complet Et soudain un homme vous dit : si tu veux monter dans ce train il me reste des places !! Sauf qu`il le vend avec une bonne marge Officiellement ceci est interdit par la loi …………mais que fait la police ????????
Concernant les places dispos dans le train Z23 a l`heure actuel il reste des places. Mais pour la dates du 20 aout je ne peux rien dire car ici tu as le droit d`acheter ton billet que 8 jours avant ton départ. Et ni au tel ni au guichet nous n`avons pas eu réponses.
DESOLE DE NE POUVOIR FAIRE PLUS ET MIEUX
BON VOYAGE
Nous avons enquêté sur votre problème et nous avons demandé a nos amies de revérifier les dire au tel .le train Z3 est accessible a toutes personnes sauf que pour tous achats de billets vous devez présenter vos visas pour chaque frontière. Je pense que votre agence a simplement des arrangements financiers ou un lot des billets pour tel train et qu`il écoule son stock. C`est fréquent ici.
Tout comme les vendeurs a la sauvette qui achète des dizaines de tickets pour les destinations les plus demander et lorsque vous passez a la gare on vous répondre le train est complet Et soudain un homme vous dit : si tu veux monter dans ce train il me reste des places !! Sauf qu`il le vend avec une bonne marge Officiellement ceci est interdit par la loi …………mais que fait la police ????????
Concernant les places dispos dans le train Z23 a l`heure actuel il reste des places. Mais pour la dates du 20 aout je ne peux rien dire car ici tu as le droit d`acheter ton billet que 8 jours avant ton départ. Et ni au tel ni au guichet nous n`avons pas eu réponses.
DESOLE DE NE POUVOIR FAIRE PLUS ET MIEUX
BON VOYAGE
Il n'y a d'homme plus complet que celui qui a beaucoup voyagé, qui a changé vingt fois la forme de sa pensée et de sa vie.
salut
soit vous le faite depuis la france via internet soit lorsque vous arrivez Pekin a vous de voir moi je prend mes billets directement a la gare en chine je suis sur de mon achat je n`ai pas confiance au agence et de plus il vends toujours <> alors qu`un achat a la gare direct me permets de voir si il y a des changement de dernieres minutes
bon voyage
soit vous le faite depuis la france via internet soit lorsque vous arrivez Pekin a vous de voir moi je prend mes billets directement a la gare en chine je suis sur de mon achat je n`ai pas confiance au agence et de plus il vends toujours <> alors qu`un achat a la gare direct me permets de voir si il y a des changement de dernieres minutes
bon voyage
Il n'y a d'homme plus complet que celui qui a beaucoup voyagé, qui a changé vingt fois la forme de sa pensée et de sa vie.
salut
le probleme est que vous voyagez en periode estivale et il est vrai que les places sont rares a cette periode mais si vous avez un doute faite votre resa depuis la france meme si vous payez plus cher via le net de plus si vous etes limitee dans le temps il y un risque d`attendre un certain temps avant d`avoir une place
aller courage
bon voyage
le probleme est que vous voyagez en periode estivale et il est vrai que les places sont rares a cette periode mais si vous avez un doute faite votre resa depuis la france meme si vous payez plus cher via le net de plus si vous etes limitee dans le temps il y un risque d`attendre un certain temps avant d`avoir une place
aller courage
bon voyage
Il n'y a d'homme plus complet que celui qui a beaucoup voyagé, qui a changé vingt fois la forme de sa pensée et de sa vie.
ouais...
Mais pareil de france je ne connais pas les organismes, j'ai l'impression que rien n'est clair à propos de ce train... On m'a parlé du vieux campeur mais apparemment ils proposent plutot des voyages tout compris. Ce qui ne m'intéresse pas, je veux juste deux billets au prix normal pratiqué en chine pour tout le monde.... Est-ce trop demandé ?!
Bon ben merci pour tes précieux conseils! Je vais continuer mes recherches en france pour voir ce qui se fait.
Bonne continuation!
Mais pareil de france je ne connais pas les organismes, j'ai l'impression que rien n'est clair à propos de ce train... On m'a parlé du vieux campeur mais apparemment ils proposent plutot des voyages tout compris. Ce qui ne m'intéresse pas, je veux juste deux billets au prix normal pratiqué en chine pour tout le monde.... Est-ce trop demandé ?!
Bon ben merci pour tes précieux conseils! Je vais continuer mes recherches en france pour voir ce qui se fait.
Bonne continuation!
On vient d'appeler Horseback Adventure au 99 13 64 18 en mongolie
ils parlent français et nous on dit qu'µµil ya des bus et train journaliers de Pékin à Erlian ou Hothot (10€), et de là tu prend une jeep pour Zamyn Uud (5€ par personne) pour traverser la fontière, puis tu prend le train journalier aussi (le pied!) pour UB (10/12€).
Bref solution roots et pas chère, seul inconvénient possible, attendre 1 jour à ZU si pas de place dans le train (mais le nadaam est fini donc...).
Bon voyage!
Biz.
la vie est belle et simple pourquoi vous vous compliquer la vie a ce point la????????
le monde est grand et si votre destination c`est la chine, alors venez a Pekin et cree votre voyage a partir de cette vie et vous verez sur place les dispos et les regions que vous desirez voir!
bon voyage
bon voyage
Il n'y a d'homme plus complet que celui qui a beaucoup voyagé, qui a changé vingt fois la forme de sa pensée et de sa vie.
ben oui mais comme notre pseudo l'indique notre but c'est la *mongolie*😉 (par Pékin c'était moins cher, voilà pourquoi...)
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Hi there,
I’m a bit late to be worrying about this, but hopefully someone can help me before I leave.
Tomorrow afternoon, I arrive at Lyon Part-Dieu on the TGV at 5:50 PM and take the TER to Mâcon at 6:16 PM. Is a 26-minute transfer doable? Are the TGV and TER on the same departure board? And are they on the same platforms too?
I’ve been to Lyon before but never had to make a connection after arriving.
Thanks
Hi there,
I can’t seem to complete the payment for my trip on the IRCTC (Indian Railways) site. No matter which payment method I choose, my Visa card isn’t accepted. Has anyone here managed to do it, and if so, could you share the method you used? Thanks in advance! Charlie
I can’t seem to complete the payment for my trip on the IRCTC (Indian Railways) site. No matter which payment method I choose, my Visa card isn’t accepted. Has anyone here managed to do it, and if so, could you share the method you used? Thanks in advance! Charlie
Hello,
Starting November 15th, I’ll be arriving in Thailand, and during my stay, I plan to visit the north, around the Chiang Mai area, then head south to the Krabi region. After Krabi, I’m planning to take an overnight train to Bangkok. I was wondering if there’s a train that leaves from Krabi or Trang, or if I absolutely have to go to Surat Thani? Also, which official website can I use to book my ticket?
Next, since I’ll be arriving at dawn in Bangkok, I’ve planned to spend 2 days in Kanchanaburi. What’s the most convenient way to get there—bus or train? And if you know any companies or websites, that’d be great.
Thanks for your tips!
Fred
Starting November 15th, I’ll be arriving in Thailand, and during my stay, I plan to visit the north, around the Chiang Mai area, then head south to the Krabi region. After Krabi, I’m planning to take an overnight train to Bangkok. I was wondering if there’s a train that leaves from Krabi or Trang, or if I absolutely have to go to Surat Thani? Also, which official website can I use to book my ticket?
Next, since I’ll be arriving at dawn in Bangkok, I’ve planned to spend 2 days in Kanchanaburi. What’s the most convenient way to get there—bus or train? And if you know any companies or websites, that’d be great.
Thanks for your tips!
Fred
Hi! I arrive in Vancouver on August 24, 2025, and I’m staying until Friday, August 29, 2025—the day I take *The Canadian* train to Toronto.
I’m exploring several things in Vancouver, including whale watching—if you’ve got any great tips, don’t hesitate! Thanks!
I’m exploring several things in Vancouver, including whale watching—if you’ve got any great tips, don’t hesitate! Thanks!
Hi there,
Does anyone know if there’s a bus from Luang Namtha to Boten to catch the train coming from China to Vientiane? If so, what’s the name of the company? Also, how long does the bus take to cover that distance? What’s the condition of the road like?
Thanks for your help!
Tom
I just realized there’s only one payment method accepted for booking the Mombasa-Nairobi express train ticket online: M-Pesa, a mobile money transfer service used in Africa. Would it be impossible to book as a European?
Hi
Have any of you booked tickets through rail.ninja?
Hi there,
I’d love to know if any of you have recently eaten on the overnight train from Bangkok to Chiang Mai.
We’ve always ordered food on the train, and it was really good (and super convenient). But in 2022, we ended up feeling like total idiots (with our 4-year-old daughter...) when we boarded the train only to find out that this service was no longer available... (It was the first time we’d traveled right after COVID.)
That’s also when we saw once again how kind Thai people are—they all offered to share their food with us, even though we were mortified. In the end, we managed to buy some instant noodles, which was better than nothing. Anyway, that’s the little story behind it.
In the following years, we’ve always brought our own meals.
I’ve read online that meal trays are back in service (could you confirm this, please?), but that the quality is really poor. I’ve also seen multiple reports that, even though you can eat well everywhere in Thailand, the train meal was the worst food travelers had during their trip...
Could you give me a recent opinion on this? We’ll be departing from Krung Thep Aphiwat Central Station—do you know if there’s anywhere to buy a meal there before boarding the train?
Thanks so much for your help, and have a great Sunday!
I’d love to know if any of you have recently eaten on the overnight train from Bangkok to Chiang Mai.
We’ve always ordered food on the train, and it was really good (and super convenient). But in 2022, we ended up feeling like total idiots (with our 4-year-old daughter...) when we boarded the train only to find out that this service was no longer available... (It was the first time we’d traveled right after COVID.)
That’s also when we saw once again how kind Thai people are—they all offered to share their food with us, even though we were mortified. In the end, we managed to buy some instant noodles, which was better than nothing. Anyway, that’s the little story behind it.
In the following years, we’ve always brought our own meals.
I’ve read online that meal trays are back in service (could you confirm this, please?), but that the quality is really poor. I’ve also seen multiple reports that, even though you can eat well everywhere in Thailand, the train meal was the worst food travelers had during their trip...
Could you give me a recent opinion on this? We’ll be departing from Krung Thep Aphiwat Central Station—do you know if there’s anywhere to buy a meal there before boarding the train?
Thanks so much for your help, and have a great Sunday!
Hi there,
We’re heading to Thailand in February 2026 and we’d like to take the overnight train from Bangkok to Chiang Mai. Can we book two first-class tickets? I’m only seeing second-class options.
Thanks
We’re heading to Thailand in February 2026 and we’d like to take the overnight train from Bangkok to Chiang Mai. Can we book two first-class tickets? I’m only seeing second-class options.
Thanks
Hi everyone,
For traveling in Rajasthan by train and bus, could you give me some info: where to buy tickets, cost, purchase locations, websites, etc.?
Any tips you have would be super helpful.
Thanks
Hi there,
We’re traveling to Java on October 23, just the two of us. I’ve read that it’s best to book train tickets in advance on tiket.com. Is that true, and how far ahead do you recommend? Are the tickets changeable?
Thanks for your help!
Nicole
We’re traveling to Java on October 23, just the two of us. I’ve read that it’s best to book train tickets in advance on tiket.com. Is that true, and how far ahead do you recommend? Are the tickets changeable?
Thanks for your help!
Nicole
Hi everyone,
I’m planning to travel from Ulaanbaatar to Irkutsk by train this summer but I’m a bit worried about crossing the borders. How does it work? Could anyone share their experience? (I’ve found quite a few accounts of people going *from* Russia *to* Mongolia, but entering a country is never the same as leaving it—especially in this context!)
Thanks in advance! 😊
Thanks in advance! 😊
Hi
Can anyone tell me how to book train tickets online? We're planning to travel from HANOI to HO CHI MINH CITY by train, making several stops along the way. I'd also like to find the schedules and the stations where the trains stop.
There are four of us, and we've already planned stops in HANOI / DONG HOI / HUE.
Thanks in advance to anyone who can help!
Mounette74
Can anyone tell me how to book train tickets online? We're planning to travel from HANOI to HO CHI MINH CITY by train, making several stops along the way. I'd also like to find the schedules and the stations where the trains stop.
There are four of us, and we've already planned stops in HANOI / DONG HOI / HUE.
Thanks in advance to anyone who can help!
Mounette74
Hi everyone,
I’m heading to Japan for the second time with my 20-year-old son. During our first trip, we spent two weeks in Tokyo and Kyoto (plus the surrounding areas). This time, we’re planning to stay in Tokyo for at least 4-5 days and then head to the island of Naoshima. I’m looking for suggestions and advice: Is getting to Naoshima from Tokyo complicated? If so, do you have any recommendations for a stopover somewhere? Given that we’d prefer not to move every day, we’d rather settle in one place and then explore on day trips... Do you think it’s possible to do something like this: 5 nights in Tokyo (Shinjuku) 3 nights in Kyoto 2 nights in Naoshima (or is one night enough??) and if one night is enough, where could I spend a second night on the way back to Tokyo? 2 nights in Tokyo (I’d love your advice on staying in a different neighborhood—last time we stayed near Ueno Park)—keeping in mind we’re flying out of Narita.
I’m considering maybe skipping Kyoto, which I love but has apparently become *very* touristy... Not really keen on Osaka... since we’ll already have done Tokyo as our "big city." I’d prefer towns where nature is present... (a bit like Kyoto, which offers all that...)
For info, we’ll be traveling by train. Thanks in advance for all your suggestions and help!
I have one last little question: Is cash still widely used in Japan, or not at all anymore?
Thanks so much,
Karine
I’m heading to Japan for the second time with my 20-year-old son. During our first trip, we spent two weeks in Tokyo and Kyoto (plus the surrounding areas). This time, we’re planning to stay in Tokyo for at least 4-5 days and then head to the island of Naoshima. I’m looking for suggestions and advice: Is getting to Naoshima from Tokyo complicated? If so, do you have any recommendations for a stopover somewhere? Given that we’d prefer not to move every day, we’d rather settle in one place and then explore on day trips... Do you think it’s possible to do something like this: 5 nights in Tokyo (Shinjuku) 3 nights in Kyoto 2 nights in Naoshima (or is one night enough??) and if one night is enough, where could I spend a second night on the way back to Tokyo? 2 nights in Tokyo (I’d love your advice on staying in a different neighborhood—last time we stayed near Ueno Park)—keeping in mind we’re flying out of Narita.
I’m considering maybe skipping Kyoto, which I love but has apparently become *very* touristy... Not really keen on Osaka... since we’ll already have done Tokyo as our "big city." I’d prefer towns where nature is present... (a bit like Kyoto, which offers all that...)
For info, we’ll be traveling by train. Thanks in advance for all your suggestions and help!
I have one last little question: Is cash still widely used in Japan, or not at all anymore?
Thanks so much,
Karine
Hi everyone,
We’re planning this *very* last-minute—I know! But we’d love to spend 4 days soon (within the next 10–12 days) on a city getaway with our young adult kids. Ideally by train, and for this short trip, we’d prefer not to spend more than 4–6 hours in transit, leaving from Lausanne (Switzerland). We’ve been considering Milan, Strasbourg, or Freiburg im Breisgau, but I’ll admit I’m feeling a bit lost...
Venice was our original plan, but the connection changes in Domodossola or Milan are making the travel time longer this year.
It’s peak summer, so there’ll be tourists and it’ll likely be hot, but oh well...
Any suggestions? We love wandering around, taking photos, exploring cities on foot, trying out restaurants, and keeping things low-key.
Thanks to anyone who wants to chime in! :o)
We’re planning this *very* last-minute—I know! But we’d love to spend 4 days soon (within the next 10–12 days) on a city getaway with our young adult kids. Ideally by train, and for this short trip, we’d prefer not to spend more than 4–6 hours in transit, leaving from Lausanne (Switzerland). We’ve been considering Milan, Strasbourg, or Freiburg im Breisgau, but I’ll admit I’m feeling a bit lost...
Venice was our original plan, but the connection changes in Domodossola or Milan are making the travel time longer this year.
It’s peak summer, so there’ll be tourists and it’ll likely be hot, but oh well...
Any suggestions? We love wandering around, taking photos, exploring cities on foot, trying out restaurants, and keeping things low-key.
Thanks to anyone who wants to chime in! :o)






