Merci d'avance, toute suggestion est le bienvenu.
Réservation à l'avance du ferry Osaka-Shanghai avec preuve à l'appui?
by Hereisiris
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Bon voila, je me prevoi un petit tour d'asie bien sympatique mais ce que j'avais pas prevu c'est toutes ces histoires de Visa, oui maligne comme je suis je pensai vivre chez les bisounours et que toutes les frontieres etaient plus ou moin ouverte.
Enfin c'est pas pour le Visa que je suis embeter la, au contraire les pays qui demande un Visa ont pas l'air de demander un billet sorti du pays hors je part au Japon avec un alle simple et je comptai rejoindre la Chine grace au ferry, mais leger detail je ne trouve aucun ferry pour la chine qui me donne une reservation sur le net qui puisse servir de preuve que je quitte bien le pays pour la douane.
Je sais pas si tout ca est bien clair mais si quelqu'un a deja voyage dans le sens japon-chine helpppp!!!! Et bien sur je m'y prend a la derniere minute. Je me dit qu'au pire je prend un avion mais c'est pas le meme prix.
Merci d'avance, toute suggestion est le bienvenu.
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Bonsoir,
Je ne pense vraiment pas qu'on vous demande de preuve de continuation si vous expliquez ue vous prendrez le ferry pour la Chine ; et puis cela veut dire que vous aurez le visa... Cela suffira.
Michel
Je ne pense vraiment pas qu'on vous demande de preuve de continuation si vous expliquez ue vous prendrez le ferry pour la Chine ; et puis cela veut dire que vous aurez le visa... Cela suffira.
Michel
Etant donne que le Visa ne dure que 30jours je ne le prendrai qu'une fois au Japon. Pour le moment toutes les agences m'ont dit que je ne serai pas accepte sur le territoire japonais sans preuve de depart. Certe ils ne sont pas aussi strict au Japon qu'aux Etats-Uni mais j'ai pas vraiment envie de faire le test. Bon je continu les recherches!
Comment ça valable que 30 jours ?
Michel
Michel
oups 90jours pardon, je commence a m'embrouiller avec ts ces Visas, enfin etant donne que je voudrai rester au japon deux voir trois mois ca ne change rien au probleme.
Trois mois au Japon, j'espère que le budjet et l'intendance suivent ! 😉
Achète en ligne un billet de ferry pour Pusan, c'est moins cher et essaie de te le faire rembourser une fois sur place.
Michel
Michel
J'ai la chance d'avoir de la famille qui habite sur place alors ca aide 😉 et une fois sur place je testerai de trouver un boulot... l'espoir fait vivre mais me fait vivre stresser ^^
Tout ce que j'ai pu trouver c'etait un alle retour pas trop cher pour le Cambodge, bon ca fait un bon detour meme si j'espere y aller. Merci du tuyau je suis a la recherche du ticket pour busan, pas mal de site japonais si t'as encor une idee je suis toute ouie.
et merci de tes reponses aussi rapide ^^
C'est ce que j'ai trouve aussi, ca a l'air pas trop mal on peu se faire rembourser si on les previen sous trois jours. J'essai de reserver et je te tien au courrant. Thx.
Bon alors voila comment ca c'est passe. Le ferry n'a envoye aucune reservetion donc sous la panic ma tante a reserve un tiquet avec les points american airline qu'elle avait gagne. Elle se le ferra rembourser mais devra payer une penalite d'environs 1oo$
Je part cofiante a l'aeroport mais voyant que mon pere est japonais ils ne me demande aucun justificatif... -_-' Voila si vous avez un parent japonai il suffi d'emmener le livret de famille et de le montrer a la douane, pas besoin de billet sortie du territoire.
Il ne me l'ont pas demandde et a la douane americaine. A la douane japonaise la fille a quand meme voulu verifier mais c'est pcq la date de sorti du territoire que j'avai marque depasse de 10 la limite du visa touriste (je sais boullettes sur boullettes). Il a suffi que je lui disent que je changerai le tiquet pour qu'on me laisse rentrer.
Donc en gros ils ont l'air plutot relax a la douane au Japon, peu etre pcq je suis eurasiene en tout cas si cette experience peu servir a quelqu'un ce sera un soulagement.
merci pour ton aide tatra et maintenant que je suis au japon je vais tacher d'en profiter ^^
Donc en gros ils ont l'air plutot relax a la douane au Japon, peu etre pcq je suis eurasiene en tout cas si cette experience peu servir a quelqu'un ce sera un soulagement.
merci pour ton aide tatra et maintenant que je suis au japon je vais tacher d'en profiter ^^
Bonjour,
"mais voyant que mon pere est japonais ils ne me demande aucun justificatif... -_-' Voila si vous avez un parent japonai il suffi d'emmener le livret de famille et de le montrer a la douane, pas besoin de billet sortie du territoire."
Comment savent-ils que votre père est Japonais ? 🤪 Est-ce une déduction que vous faites, où est-ce écrit quelque part ?..... Je doute que ce soit une règle.
Michel
"mais voyant que mon pere est japonais ils ne me demande aucun justificatif... -_-' Voila si vous avez un parent japonai il suffi d'emmener le livret de famille et de le montrer a la douane, pas besoin de billet sortie du territoire."
Comment savent-ils que votre père est Japonais ? 🤪 Est-ce une déduction que vous faites, où est-ce écrit quelque part ?..... Je doute que ce soit une règle.
Michel
J'ai herite de mon pere son nom de famille donc il se rendent asse vite compte qu'un de mes parent est japonais, en plus d'etre type eurasienne (quand il le voit ils demandent asse rapidement si un parent l'est).
Et j'ai appris plus tard qu'il suffisait de leur montrer le livret de famille pour qu'il ne demande pa de tiquet sorti. Appris un peu tard certe 😊 mais maintenant c'est su.
Bonjour,
Un nom cela ne prouve pas grand chose...... 🤪 Je pense sincérement que si vous aviez expliqué comment vous pensiez sortir du pays et que si vous aviez les documents pour, cela aurait suffi....
Michel
Un nom cela ne prouve pas grand chose...... 🤪 Je pense sincérement que si vous aviez expliqué comment vous pensiez sortir du pays et que si vous aviez les documents pour, cela aurait suffi....
Michel
C'est pour ca que normalement il doit falloir le livret de famille. Mais c'est vrai qu'ils ont pas l'air tres regardant et que ca aurait pu passe. C'est juste au cas ou quelqu'un tomberai sur un douanier plus regardant. Vu le prix du tiquet et les coups de parano qu'on m'a fille pour les USA je prefere eviter les risques meme si c'est pas les meme pays.
De plus pour le ferry ils ont pas donne de mail de confirmation c'est juste un numero ou la presentation du passeport a l'entree, mais si vous avz un mail de reservation a pas de souci. 🙂
Bonjour,
Je ne crois pas que ce soit un problème d'être "regardant" ou non... Si tu montres que tu sais par où, comment tu vas quitter le pays et que tu as les documents en règle et valides qui t'y autorisent il ne doit pas y avoir de problème. Si tu as un billet reztour depuis le pays que tu visites ensuite, il y a encore moins de problème. Le ferry donne un numéro ?.... Et bien une impression de cette copie d'écran doit convenir ! Cela fera office de billet de continuation à mon avis. Cette paranoïa que tu évoques, elle a durablement contaminé beaucoup d'esprits.
Michel
Je ne crois pas que ce soit un problème d'être "regardant" ou non... Si tu montres que tu sais par où, comment tu vas quitter le pays et que tu as les documents en règle et valides qui t'y autorisent il ne doit pas y avoir de problème. Si tu as un billet reztour depuis le pays que tu visites ensuite, il y a encore moins de problème. Le ferry donne un numéro ?.... Et bien une impression de cette copie d'écran doit convenir ! Cela fera office de billet de continuation à mon avis. Cette paranoïa que tu évoques, elle a durablement contaminé beaucoup d'esprits.
Michel
La peur est ce qui se transmet le plus facilement.
Le fait est que je n'ai aucun tiquet retour France et que la duree du sejour a Tokyo depand beaucoup de si j'y trouve un taff ou pas. Dans ces conditions j'arrivai au Japon avec exclusivement ma bonne foi ce qui ne suffi pas toujours. Toutes les compagies aerienes contactes disent qu'il faudrait un tiquet sorti du Japon, n'importe quel sorte. Malheureusement la compagnie du ferry a envoie un mail de resevation mais aucun de confirmation, d'ailleur ils ne m'ont debite que depuis trois jours. Ce mail peu etre tape par n'importe qui possedant Word (pas de logo, signe qu'ils ont bien debite ou autre)
Je veux faire un tour de l'asie a la routard, rien n'est encore vraiment finalise, vu que ces derniers mois ont ete asse mouvemente je comptai finir de plannifier ici. C'est un peu a l'arache mais c'est aussi ce que je recherche. Jouer les touristes tous les jours m'ennui, j'aimerai plus alle a la rencontre des gens et de leur culture, decourir leur maniere de vivre et j'avai plus peur de ma capacite a m'ouvrir aux autres qu'aux problemes administratives. En gros rien n'etait vraiment prevu et pour epliquer tout ca a la douane...🤪
Mais en tant qu'enfant d'un japonais j'aurai pu rentrer sans avoir a fournir ces preuves. Pourquoi ne me demande pas il faudrait que je me renseigne a ce propos. Ca doit etre pour facilite l'integration des metisses japonais vu qu'a 22ans on devrait choisir entre la nationalite japonaise et l'autre. Pour facilite la conservation des liens avec ce pays et ca famille plus tard.
iris.
iris.
Bonjour,
"Ce mail peu etre tape par n'importe qui possedant Word (pas de logo, signe qu'ils ont bien debite ou autre)"
Ni plus ni moins que n'importe quel billet électronique....
Michel
"Ce mail peu etre tape par n'importe qui possedant Word (pas de logo, signe qu'ils ont bien debite ou autre)"
Ni plus ni moins que n'importe quel billet électronique....
Michel
Je dois bien avouer que sur ce coup la y a eu un peu de parano, du mal a croire en un bout de papier fait maison...
Mais j'essai de me soigner 🤪
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Thanks for your feedback.
Hi there,
I read on the French Ministry of Foreign Affairs website that it’s possible to apply for a temporary driving permit in China, valid for 1 month. I’m planning to rent a car (without a driver) to explore part of the country next August, so I was wondering:
Has anyone here already gone through this process upon arrival? How long do the formalities take on the spot? Is it possible to handle these steps in advance, before arriving in China?
Thanks in advance for your replies.
I read on the French Ministry of Foreign Affairs website that it’s possible to apply for a temporary driving permit in China, valid for 1 month. I’m planning to rent a car (without a driver) to explore part of the country next August, so I was wondering:
Has anyone here already gone through this process upon arrival? How long do the formalities take on the spot? Is it possible to handle these steps in advance, before arriving in China?
Thanks in advance for your replies.
Hi
Has anyone been to Rwanda recently and gotten a 3-month visa on arrival easily?
Thanks
Hi there,
My departure is slowly approaching, and now that I’ve got my Russian visa sorted, I’m fine-tuning the rest of my trip to Tajikistan. Since the Tajik visa is no longer required for stays under 30 days (for French nationals), I’ll need to visit the Ministry of Interior (OVIR) to register within 10 days of entering the country. No big deal, though, since I had to go there anyway to apply for my GBAO permit. 😉 However, I’ve *seen* several reports from travelers (mostly motorized) mentioning that you need an entry permit for Kyrgyzstan, which has to be arranged in advance at the Kyrgyz Ministry (consulate?) in Dushanbe. Otherwise, you’re *stuck* at the Kyzyl-Art border (with no Wi-Fi, of course, to try and sort it out). The most recent report was from a year ago, so I’d love to know if this is still the case and if it’s indeed at the Kyrgyz Ministry (consulate?) where you need to go for this pre-authorization.
Does anyone have any recent info on this?
Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone.
I’m leaving for almost 3 months in the Philippines (11 weeks total) starting in early May.
I already have my round-trip ticket.
The problem is, I don’t have time to get a 2-month visa because the process takes nearly a month.
From what I’ve read here and there, I need a return ticket valid for less than a month when I arrive in the Philippines to prove my good faith.
After that, I can apply for a 30-day extension at the immigration office.
I’m planning to either buy a fully refundable ticket to the nearest country or a fake ticket.
For 3 months, I’ll need to extend my visa two more times before my return date to France.
My question is this:
Will immigration ask me each time I extend my visa by one month to show proof of an exit ticket matching the new visa extension date?
Is it possible to extend directly by 2 months before the initial 30 days expire?
Thanks in advance for your experiences and tips! 😊
Hello to all the Thailand regulars.
I’ve been to Thailand several times, but it was about 20 years ago…
There’s a new system in place now, it seems.
TDAC – Thailand Digital Arrival Card.
Before arriving, I apply for a TDAC, okay. If during my stay I cross the border to spend a few days in Malaysia and then re-enter Thailand, do I need to submit a new TDAC application? Do I use the same TDAC as when I first entered the country?
Or do I initially have to pay for a Thai multi-entry visa?
Thanks in advance for your insights—I can’t find the answer online.
Pierre
I’ve been to Thailand several times, but it was about 20 years ago…
There’s a new system in place now, it seems.
TDAC – Thailand Digital Arrival Card.
Before arriving, I apply for a TDAC, okay. If during my stay I cross the border to spend a few days in Malaysia and then re-enter Thailand, do I need to submit a new TDAC application? Do I use the same TDAC as when I first entered the country?
Or do I initially have to pay for a Thai multi-entry visa?
Thanks in advance for your insights—I can’t find the answer online.
Pierre
My partner (Mexican) entered France on January 21st as a tourist. She was therefore entitled to stay for 90 days in the Schengen Area. She’ll be leaving for Mexico on April 16th, so she’ll have “used up” 86 days.
She plans to return to France on July 18th. According to the European Commission’s Schengen calculator, this new stay “may be authorized for a maximum of 90 days.” That’s not very clear ("may be," "for a maximum of").
The text of Article 6 of the European regulation (2016/399) states that for a stay planned in the territory of the Member States, not exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period, one must examine "the 180-day period preceding each day of the stay." That’s not very clear either.
My partner wants to return to France for a 90-day period starting on July 18th. Is this possible?
There are two ways to look at it:
1) The first day she spent in the Schengen Area was January 21st. That day will drop out of the calculation 180 days later, on July 20th.
From July 20th, she’ll get back 1 day of possible stay; on July 22nd, 2 days; and so on. All the days from her previous stay (January 21st–April 16th) need to be outside the 180-day rolling window. The last day of her stay was April 16th. Looking 180 days ahead, that brings us to October 13th. From that date, she’ll be able to return for a full 90 days. 2) The number of allowed days is calculated for each day of the new stay. In other words: the 180-day window is recalculated every day, not fixed at the entry date. If she re-enters France on July 18th, she’ll only have a “credit” of 4 days. But with each day of her new stay, one day from the previous stay (January–April) will drop out of the calculation. The rolling window allows her to “replace” days from the previous stay with those of the new stay, without ever exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period. In this case, my partner could stay in France for 90 days starting on July 18th. The Prefecture doesn’t provide any information, nor does Air France, and in the forums I’ve checked, opinions are divided. Thanks for any insights you can share!
She plans to return to France on July 18th. According to the European Commission’s Schengen calculator, this new stay “may be authorized for a maximum of 90 days.” That’s not very clear ("may be," "for a maximum of").
The text of Article 6 of the European regulation (2016/399) states that for a stay planned in the territory of the Member States, not exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period, one must examine "the 180-day period preceding each day of the stay." That’s not very clear either.
My partner wants to return to France for a 90-day period starting on July 18th. Is this possible?
There are two ways to look at it:
1) The first day she spent in the Schengen Area was January 21st. That day will drop out of the calculation 180 days later, on July 20th.
From July 20th, she’ll get back 1 day of possible stay; on July 22nd, 2 days; and so on. All the days from her previous stay (January 21st–April 16th) need to be outside the 180-day rolling window. The last day of her stay was April 16th. Looking 180 days ahead, that brings us to October 13th. From that date, she’ll be able to return for a full 90 days. 2) The number of allowed days is calculated for each day of the new stay. In other words: the 180-day window is recalculated every day, not fixed at the entry date. If she re-enters France on July 18th, she’ll only have a “credit” of 4 days. But with each day of her new stay, one day from the previous stay (January–April) will drop out of the calculation. The rolling window allows her to “replace” days from the previous stay with those of the new stay, without ever exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period. In this case, my partner could stay in France for 90 days starting on July 18th. The Prefecture doesn’t provide any information, nor does Air France, and in the forums I’ve checked, opinions are divided. Thanks for any insights you can share!
Hello,
We’re planning to travel to Indonesia (Sulawesi with family) next July and August for a stay longer than a month (about 6 weeks).
I’ve seen that it’s possible to get a 60-day visa before departure, but I’ve also read about people having a lot of trouble getting it (some even didn’t manage and had to leave without it).
We absolutely need to have these 4 visas BEFORE leaving because once we’re in Sulawesi, I’m not sure we’ll be able to go to an embassy to request a visa extension after 30 days.
In short, how can we **100% guarantee** that we’ll get our 4 60-day visas before our trip this summer?
Thanks for your valuable tips!
Elodie
In short, how can we **100% guarantee** that we’ll get our 4 60-day visas before our trip this summer?
Thanks for your valuable tips!
Elodie