Croisière sur le MSC Musica: est-il possible d'éviter les excursions payantes aux escales?
by Catounounou
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonsoir,
Je pars sur le msc musica du 19 au 26/04, avec mes 3 enfants (10/12 et 14 ans) et 2 autres adultes de + 60 ans. Nous avons un budget réduit en ce qui concerne les excursions qui sont relativement chères. Je voulais savoir si on pouvait visiter la majorité des villes où nous faisons escale par nos propres moyens, soit à pied, en bus, métro, taxi ... Il s'agit des villes de Bari, Corfou, Santorin, Mykonos, Athènes le Pirée, Katakolon, Dubrovnik et Venise.
Je vous remercie de votre aide et de vos éventuelles astuces à ce sujet. Y en a t-il une (ou plusieurs) qui serait incontournable pour l'excursion ?
A bientôt et merci d'avance.
Catounounou
Bonjour,
nous serons sur la même croisière que vous. Concernant les excursions, il faut rechercher sur le site les messages 'MSC Musica'. Récemment, sur cette page, lire dernière réponse de Vickialex sur "croisiere sur le MSC Musica, départ le 26 avril". Il a fait la croisière du 5 au 12 et nous fait part de ses commentaires au retour. Certes les excursions MSC sont chères, elles sont souvent toutes faisables par soi même (taxi ou location voiture si loin ; ou à pied, transport en commun), il faut prendre en compte son budget, la complexité parfois à s'organiser, le stress, l'éloignement du site, le peu de temps sur place = parfois risque de louper le départ du bateau si pas revenus dans les délais. Tout cela c'est selon ce dont vous vous "sentez capables" de subir en stress, selon la confiance en soi et en son organisation. Et avoir du cash suffisant ! Les 'incontournables' comme tu dis, cela dépend de vos goûts... Perso, nous avons décidé Santorin Oia (c'est un must) avec MSC car l'escale est courte, le site éloigné ; Bari/Alberobello avec MSC, c'est un site superbe, mais éloigné aussi. On aurait pu rester à visiter le port de Bari seuls. Katakolon/Olympie est éloigné, on sait pas encore, selon moi beaucoup de ruines et il faut bcp d'imagination ou un bon guide pour apprécier le site... Peut être en taxi groupés avec d'autres personnes (mais les taxis sont rares)... Dubrovnik, Corfou, Mykonos, on descendra juste à terre, sur le port. Athènes, on ira par nous mêmes visiter l'Acropole (marche et métro). Venise, on y arrive le samedi, donc on visitera avant et après par nous mêmes. Il peut être interessant de prendre une excursion MSC au retour, car alors, si votre avion est après 17h, le transfert aeroport est inclus. Mais le trajet jusqu'à l'aéroport ne coûte pas cher, par les compagnies de bus locales (sans MSC) il coute 3euros/pax bagage inclus (ATVO) ou 1euro/pax + 1euro/bagage (ACTV), donc il peut être fait par soi même.
Voilà, j'espère avoir pu répondre à quelques unes de tes questions. Mais franchement, sur le forum, beaucoup de réponses grâce aux commentaires / ressentis des croisièristes.
A bientôt de se croiser sur le bateau
Nathalie
MSC Musica 19-26 avril 2009 (Italie, Grèce, Croatie)
Bonjour et merci pour ta réponse. Je pense que Santorin et Olympie sont à envisager en excursion, effectivement. On verra bien sur place lorsque toute ma "tribu" se sera concertée. Pour Venise, comme on vient en voiture, je pense qu'on visitera au retour, puisqu'on a la journée devant nous.
A bientôt.
Cathy
Bonsoir, nous ferons la même croisière que vous, et ce, à votre retour, donc le 26. Si je peux me permettre une suggestion, le site de MATERA (escale à Bari) vaut le détour ! C'est le premier site qui a été classé patrimoine Mondial de l'Unesco. Ces habitations datent de l'époque Néolithique (- 9 000 ans avec J.C.). Un petit tour sur Google vous permet de voir des photos. Nous, c'est l'excursion que l'on va faire avec MSC. Bonne croisière à vous !
Marina
MSC Musica avril 2009
Costa Concordia avril 2008
Costa Favolosa mai 2012
Costa Fortuna mai 2015
bonsoir.
vous pouvez toutes les visites sans excursions en prenant des taxis ou des transports locaux. le problème c'est vous risquez de louper les choses les plus intéressantes à voir. le risque aussi de louper le bateau en cas de soucis si vous êtes loin.
pour corfou, je vous conseille de vous débrouiller seuls. le centre ville n'est pas trés loin.
dubrovnik, seuls aussi . le bateau reste en rade et vous débarquerez au port en chaloupe. balladez vous en ville et dans les ruelles. montez aussi sur les remparts. (payant)
santorin, ne manquez pas le village de Oïa. superbe vue sur la mer. je vous conseille une excursion. le bateau ne reste qu'une demi journée je pense.
mykonos, aucun problème pour se débrouiller seuls. balladez vous en ville et allez jusqu'aux moulins sur la colline. trés joli. le soir c'est trés joli de voir la ville illuminée.
athènes, excursion car athènes c'est 6 millions d'habitants. c'est faisable seuls mais moins évident qu'une petite ville. à réfléchir.
bari. je ne connais pas.
j'ai faitun compte rendu d'une croisière quasi similaire mais chez costa.
voir le lien :
http://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=2250847;
vous pouvez toutes les visites sans excursions en prenant des taxis ou des transports locaux. le problème c'est vous risquez de louper les choses les plus intéressantes à voir. le risque aussi de louper le bateau en cas de soucis si vous êtes loin.
pour corfou, je vous conseille de vous débrouiller seuls. le centre ville n'est pas trés loin.
dubrovnik, seuls aussi . le bateau reste en rade et vous débarquerez au port en chaloupe. balladez vous en ville et dans les ruelles. montez aussi sur les remparts. (payant)
santorin, ne manquez pas le village de Oïa. superbe vue sur la mer. je vous conseille une excursion. le bateau ne reste qu'une demi journée je pense.
mykonos, aucun problème pour se débrouiller seuls. balladez vous en ville et allez jusqu'aux moulins sur la colline. trés joli. le soir c'est trés joli de voir la ville illuminée.
athènes, excursion car athènes c'est 6 millions d'habitants. c'est faisable seuls mais moins évident qu'une petite ville. à réfléchir.
bari. je ne connais pas.
j'ai faitun compte rendu d'une croisière quasi similaire mais chez costa.
voir le lien :
http://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=2250847;
j'ai oublié.
katakolon. strictement rien à voir dans ce village qui sert de port aux bateaux de croisères. le but c'est d'aller à olympie. voir peut être pour y aller en taxi ou prendre une excursion. personnellment on c'est juste ballader à katakolon. une seule rue avec plein de magasins de souvenirs de la gréce.
katakolon. strictement rien à voir dans ce village qui sert de port aux bateaux de croisères. le but c'est d'aller à olympie. voir peut être pour y aller en taxi ou prendre une excursion. personnellment on c'est juste ballader à katakolon. une seule rue avec plein de magasins de souvenirs de la gréce.
merci pour votre réponse, je vais suivre vos conseils et aller voir de +près sur google.
Bonne croisière à vous aussi.
Cathy
Bonsoir et merci de votre aide.
J'avais déjà noté Santorin pour retenir une excursion et éventuellement pour Olympie.
Il est vrai que le plus stressant est de rater le bateau si on prend les transports en commun.
Je vais aller faire un tour sur votre compte-rendu.
A bientôt
Cathy
Bonjour,
Je suis comme vous une amoureuse des croisières, ce sera la 7ème . Nous partons le 19/12 sur le MSC SPLENDIDA.
Vous avez fait ATHENES, pouvez vous me dire s'il y a des taxis au port du PIREE , et si vous savez le prix qu'ils prennent pour une visite de la ville. Merci d'avance
Betty 31
Bonjour,
Je suis comme vous une amoureuse des croisières, ce sera la 7ème . Nous partons le 19/12 sur le MSC SPLENDIDA.
Vous avez fait ATHENES, pouvez vous me dire s'il y a des taxis au port du PIREE , et si vous savez le prix qu'ils prennent pour une visite de la ville. Merci d'avance
Betty 31
bonjour betty.
des taxis, il y en a en pagaille... 😛 mais aucune idée du prix. faut toujours négocier d'aprés ce que je lis ici. je lis souvent des prix de 60/80 euros pour une demi journée.
mais lors de mes deux escales à athènes j'ai toujours pris les excursions costa. pour l'acropole et le canal de corinthe.
bonjour betty.
des taxis, il y en a en pagaille... 😛 mais aucune idée du prix. faut toujours négocier d'aprés ce que je lis ici. je lis souvent des prix de 60/80 euros pour une demi journée.
mais lors de mes deux escales à athènes j'ai toujours pris les excursions costa. pour l'acropole et le canal de corinthe.
Merci Bruno,
On négociera le tarif sur place, nous évitons les excursions organisées par les compagnies, beaucoup trop chères. Taxis, bus, train, métro et meme location de voitures aux canaries, c'est plus sympa. A bientôt sur le forum et merci encore pour votre réponse si rapide. Betty 31
On négociera le tarif sur place, nous évitons les excursions organisées par les compagnies, beaucoup trop chères. Taxis, bus, train, métro et meme location de voitures aux canaries, c'est plus sympa. A bientôt sur le forum et merci encore pour votre réponse si rapide. Betty 31
vous êtes partie sur le Gem ? je pars le 08/11.
(je me répéte peut-être mais je ne me souviens plus de tout le monde car je participe bcp sur VF.) 😊
(je me répéte peut-être mais je ne me souviens plus de tout le monde car je participe bcp sur VF.) 😊
Oui, j'ai pris le GEM en novembre 2007. Très beau paquebot, dommage il y avait beaucoup d'américains, et très peu de français peut être cela a changé. Très interessant car on régle en dollars, surtout en ce moment. Le système free style est très bien, on mange quand on veut, les restau à supplément sont excellents, et peu cher car il font des offres à certaines heures (1 payant 1 gratuit)
Je pense que vous aimerez
Bonne croisière
Betty 31
Oui, j'ai pris le GEM en novembre 2007. Très beau paquebot, dommage il y avait beaucoup d'américains, et très peu de français peut être cela a changé. Très interessant car on régle en dollars, surtout en ce moment. Le système free style est très bien, on mange quand on veut, les restau à supplément sont excellents, et peu cher car il font des offres à certaines heures (1 payant 1 gratuit)
Je pense que vous aimerez
Bonne croisière
Betty 31
je l'espère aussi. je crains la barrière de la langue mais on se débrouillera. chez costa on ne parle pas trop Français non plus.
quel itinéraire en 2007 ? il était tout neuf car c'est son année de mise en service je crois.
je l'espère aussi. je crains la barrière de la langue mais on se débrouillera. chez costa on ne parle pas trop Français non plus.
quel itinéraire en 2007 ? il était tout neuf car c'est son année de mise en service je crois.
Oui, il était neuf en novembre 2007. Nous sommes partis de barcelone, puis , je ne me rappelle plus trop de l'ordre, MALAGA, GIBRALTAR, AGADIR, LANZAROTE, LAS PALMAS, LISBONNE, CADIZ, CASABLANCA a été annulé (peur des attentats)...c'était un super itinéraire. Nous n'avons pris aucune excursion de NCL, tout par nous meme.
Pour la langue, c'est totalement différent de COSTA ou MSC, là tout est américain,
différent de l'anglais que j'arrive à comprendre un peu, meme les spectacles étaient en américain, dommage.
A bientôt et bonne soirée
Betty 31
merci betty. moi américain ou anglais je n'y comprends rien... pour moi ca ne changera rien. 🤪
BONJOUR, je dois faire cette croisière en aout prochain et justement je me demandais si l'excursion à matera valait vraiment le coup ! puisque vous l'avez faite merci de me donner + de détails ; j'ai déjà imprimé sur google tout ce qu'il y avait sur ce lieu mais je voulais vraiment savoir si ils vont bien dans les anciennes "sassi" celles qui ont été abandonnées dans les années 50. Merci pour votre aide
Bonjour,
Je suis de Toulouse aussi et je viens vers vous car nous sommes 12 à faire la croisiere MSC au mois de juillet 2011. Pourriez vous me dire les difficultés que vous avez rencontrées pour les excursions étant donné que vous ne vouliez pas prendre les excursions proposées par la compagnie. Pour santorin , une croisieriste à reservéé par une agence sur place un taxi pour huit afin d'aller jusqu'a Fira, une autre a utilisé le bus et a quand meme pu, vu le temps imparti, visiter Fira. Qu'est que vous en penser
Merci d'avance
veronique
Je suis de Toulouse aussi et je viens vers vous car nous sommes 12 à faire la croisiere MSC au mois de juillet 2011. Pourriez vous me dire les difficultés que vous avez rencontrées pour les excursions étant donné que vous ne vouliez pas prendre les excursions proposées par la compagnie. Pour santorin , une croisieriste à reservéé par une agence sur place un taxi pour huit afin d'aller jusqu'a Fira, une autre a utilisé le bus et a quand meme pu, vu le temps imparti, visiter Fira. Qu'est que vous en penser
Merci d'avance
veronique
Véronique
bonjour,
je n'ai jamais fait santorin, mais je peux vous dire que nous ne prenons aucune excursion MSC car elles sont bien trop chères. A chaque escale, nous avons pris un taxi, il faut discuter les prix bien sur, je sais ce que je veux voir ayant fait des recherches sur le net avant le départ. Le chauffeur vous amene ou vous le souhaitez ou bien vous conseille, c'est beaucoup plus sympa et moins cher. Nous n'avons jamais eu de problèmes ou nous voyons bien souvent plus de choses qu'avec une excursion. A certaines escales, nous avons pris le bus rouge qui coute environ 15 euros par personne, vous descendez ou vous voulez et pouvez reprendre le bus ou vous voulez. Aux iles canaries , nous avons loué une voiture pour 40 euros et avons eu le temps de faire toute l'ile. Vous pouvez parfaitement vous débrouiller sans MSC et le cout exorbitant de leur excursion ainsi que leur magasin ou la halte est obligatoire Bonne croisière 8 croisières pour nous Betty 31
je n'ai jamais fait santorin, mais je peux vous dire que nous ne prenons aucune excursion MSC car elles sont bien trop chères. A chaque escale, nous avons pris un taxi, il faut discuter les prix bien sur, je sais ce que je veux voir ayant fait des recherches sur le net avant le départ. Le chauffeur vous amene ou vous le souhaitez ou bien vous conseille, c'est beaucoup plus sympa et moins cher. Nous n'avons jamais eu de problèmes ou nous voyons bien souvent plus de choses qu'avec une excursion. A certaines escales, nous avons pris le bus rouge qui coute environ 15 euros par personne, vous descendez ou vous voulez et pouvez reprendre le bus ou vous voulez. Aux iles canaries , nous avons loué une voiture pour 40 euros et avons eu le temps de faire toute l'ile. Vous pouvez parfaitement vous débrouiller sans MSC et le cout exorbitant de leur excursion ainsi que leur magasin ou la halte est obligatoire Bonne croisière 8 croisières pour nous Betty 31
Hello Betty !
je peux vous dire que nous ne prenons aucune excursion MSC car elles sont bien trop chères.
Comme je dis toujours, il n'y a rien qui soit "trop cher"... 😐
Par contre, hélas, pour chacun d'entre nous, il y a plein de choses "hors budget"... 😕
Vous pouvez parfaitement vous débrouiller sans MSC et le cout exorbitant de leur excursion ainsi que leur magasin ou la halte est obligatoire
Tout à fait, et je crois que, comme Costa, MSC ne demande pas mieux : ils ne pourraient pas caser tout le monde dans leurs excursions, ce qu'ils essaient, m'expliquait un jour un officier Costa, c'est d'atteidre 60% de passagers en excursion. Et en dessous de 50%, ils ne sont pas contents d'eux... Mais plus de 70% oblige à des "refus"...
Après, sans nullement défendre l'excursion "bateau" (je reste neutre dans ce débat, même si je ne fais que des excursions "bateau" -- ou des ballades en ville sur les escales que je connais bien --, ne serait-ce que parce que, comme je le disais ci-dessus, il *faut* forcément les deux types de touristes... ), je pense que deux points ne doivent pas être oubliés :
- la "valeur ajoutée" du guide. (même si, dans de rares cas, j'en ai connu des "nuls")
- la "sécurité retour". (dans de rares cas aussi, j'ai vu les gens rejoindre le bateau en vedette rapide et une grosse douleur au portefeuille... 😕 )
deux choses qui ont un prix... 😐
A noter que Costa (et très probablement MSC) sait aussi, mais c'est certainement à tarif plus élevé, et probablement pour beaucoup d'entre nous "hors budget", organiser une excursion "privée", où c'est toi qui fournit l'itinéraire exact, avec exactement ce que tu veux voir, et après avoir analysé si le timing est possible, ils te fournissent la logistique - taxi, minibus, selon nombre de passagers - et le guide... et là, pas de boutique, ou alors la boutique que *tu* as choisie... et tu as aussi la "sécurité retour"...
je peux vous dire que nous ne prenons aucune excursion MSC car elles sont bien trop chères.
Comme je dis toujours, il n'y a rien qui soit "trop cher"... 😐
Par contre, hélas, pour chacun d'entre nous, il y a plein de choses "hors budget"... 😕
Vous pouvez parfaitement vous débrouiller sans MSC et le cout exorbitant de leur excursion ainsi que leur magasin ou la halte est obligatoire
Tout à fait, et je crois que, comme Costa, MSC ne demande pas mieux : ils ne pourraient pas caser tout le monde dans leurs excursions, ce qu'ils essaient, m'expliquait un jour un officier Costa, c'est d'atteidre 60% de passagers en excursion. Et en dessous de 50%, ils ne sont pas contents d'eux... Mais plus de 70% oblige à des "refus"...
Après, sans nullement défendre l'excursion "bateau" (je reste neutre dans ce débat, même si je ne fais que des excursions "bateau" -- ou des ballades en ville sur les escales que je connais bien --, ne serait-ce que parce que, comme je le disais ci-dessus, il *faut* forcément les deux types de touristes... ), je pense que deux points ne doivent pas être oubliés :
- la "valeur ajoutée" du guide. (même si, dans de rares cas, j'en ai connu des "nuls")
- la "sécurité retour". (dans de rares cas aussi, j'ai vu les gens rejoindre le bateau en vedette rapide et une grosse douleur au portefeuille... 😕 )
deux choses qui ont un prix... 😐
A noter que Costa (et très probablement MSC) sait aussi, mais c'est certainement à tarif plus élevé, et probablement pour beaucoup d'entre nous "hors budget", organiser une excursion "privée", où c'est toi qui fournit l'itinéraire exact, avec exactement ce que tu veux voir, et après avoir analysé si le timing est possible, ils te fournissent la logistique - taxi, minibus, selon nombre de passagers - et le guide... et là, pas de boutique, ou alors la boutique que *tu* as choisie... et tu as aussi la "sécurité retour"...
Pour santorin , une croisieriste à reservéé par une agence sur place un taxi pour huit afin d'aller jusqu'a Fira, une autre a utilisé le bus et a quand meme pu, vu le temps imparti, visiter Fira.
bonjour vero.
fira, c'est la capitale. les bateaux sont juste en dessous de la falaise. je ne vois pas trop pourquoi un taxi... en arrivant à terre, on monte en ville en téléphérique (pas de route) avec des anes ou à pied et on est à fira.
le taxi serait plutôt utile pour aller à Oïa. bien plus jolie que fira. 😉
bonjour vero.
fira, c'est la capitale. les bateaux sont juste en dessous de la falaise. je ne vois pas trop pourquoi un taxi... en arrivant à terre, on monte en ville en téléphérique (pas de route) avec des anes ou à pied et on est à fira.
le taxi serait plutôt utile pour aller à Oïa. bien plus jolie que fira. 😉
Bonjour batty et pap86,
Merci pour votre réponse je vais continuer a ecumer le forum
A+ veronique
Merci pour votre réponse je vais continuer a ecumer le forum
A+ veronique
Véronique
Salut Bruno ,
J'ai deja vu ce message que je trouvais interressant car nous sommes 12. Plus facile pour etre sur que l'on partira tous ensemble. Je pense que la croisieriste avait reservé le taxi apres le télépherique, ce qui lui a permis de visiter par la meme occasion l'ile tranquilement de toute façon on va aussi se laisser porter sur les eaux (hihi!) et on verra mais j'aime savoir ou je vais c'est deja beaucoup de temps de gagné A+ veronique
J'ai deja vu ce message que je trouvais interressant car nous sommes 12. Plus facile pour etre sur que l'on partira tous ensemble. Je pense que la croisieriste avait reservé le taxi apres le télépherique, ce qui lui a permis de visiter par la meme occasion l'ile tranquilement de toute façon on va aussi se laisser porter sur les eaux (hihi!) et on verra mais j'aime savoir ou je vais c'est deja beaucoup de temps de gagné A+ veronique
Véronique
mais faut voir Oïa. ca serait dommage de louper ca. la vue est splendide et les ruelles tellement typiques.
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Hello,
We’re back from this cruise.
Boarding in Dunkirk: The doors opened around 12 PM. Since we were a bit early, I asked if my husband, who uses a walker, could wait inside instead of outside. I left him with the two suitcases and our two backpacks in the small hall while I parked the car in the reserved CFC parking lot for 10 € per day.
The shuttle that was supposed to take people from the parking lot to the model pavilion was supposed to arrive in 5 minutes, but after 15 minutes, nothing. After waiting 15 minutes, I saw a man walking and asked if I could follow him. In 15 minutes, we arrived, and still no sign of the shuttle—it must have passed us. Arrived at the model pavilion.
My husband had already checked in the suitcases with the help of a CFC staff member. The remaining formalities were completed quickly. We were on board by 12:15 PM. Headed to the buffet on deck 11 and waited in a lounge to access our cabin.
At 2 PM, we discovered our balcony cabin on deck 9 at the rear: spacious with a large balcony compared to MSC/COSTA.
Since we were at the rear, cabin 9202, there was always an issue with elevator number 4: "priority."
Elevator number 2 stops at deck 10... and elevator number 3 was often out of order, leaving only number 1 for those with mobility issues to reach the buffet, especially for people who struggle with stairs. Note: only one child on board and lots of "gray hair."
DAY 2: At sea. Lots of activities offered.
Day 3: GOTHENBURG (Sweden). Sunny, 19°C at 11 AM.
Excursion booked with CFC: Gothenburg and Haga for all.
Interesting visit with a great guide. The HAGA district, in our opinion, is full of cobblestones and nothing special, not suitable for people using a cane or wheelchair. Elevator number 3 was out of order again.
Day 4: Copenhagen. 15°C in the morning, showers in the afternoon.
We didn’t book an excursion since we’d already stopped here with CFC in 2025, and based on advice from this forum, we took the hop-on/hop-off bus right in front of the ship. I still went to see the Little Mermaid again.
No TV, but the elevator was fixed.
DAY 5: At sea. Still no TV.
DAY 6: GDANSK (Poland). 15°C, rain all day.
There’s a shuttle to get to the city center.
We took the excursion: Panorama of Gdansk.
The guide left us at the entrance of the city center for 45 minutes, telling us what to visit. Meet-up for the rest of the tour at 3 PM. The bus left at 3:15 PM to cover 10 km to see St. Mary’s Cathedral. We arrived at 4:16 PM... The guide said there are often traffic jams in that direction. We had 10 minutes on site before heading to see the lighthouse and the Westerplatte monument, where we also had 10 minutes.
Many of us wondered why we didn’t do the tour in the opposite direction since they knew there would be traffic...
I went to reception to complain about the organization. The staff member read me the program: we were supposed to start with the lighthouse, then go to the cathedral and stay for 30 minutes before heading to the center of Gdansk for a short guided walk with some free time to buy souvenirs, etc.
The guide did the complete opposite of what was planned and didn’t even give us a guided tour—just dropped us off in the city...
DAY 7: Bornholm Island (Denmark). 14°C, a few sunny spells.
We saw in the excursions that there was a walking tour of RØNNE. So, like many others, we explored on our own. There was a small orchestra welcoming us at the port and two people with city maps. We took the shuttle to leave the port—it ran every 15 minutes. The tourist office was next to the "shuttle bus." A pleasant visit at our own pace.
DAY 8: KIEL (Germany). 18–23°C, nice weather.
We took the "Kiel for all" excursion. Great guide and interesting visits.
The port is in the city, and in 10 minutes, we were in the city center by following a blue line on the ground from the port. Elevator 3 was stuck again... and the TV was back.
DAY 9: At sea. Elevator 3 works.
DAY 10: At sea. Elevator 3 is out of order again...
DAY 11: Disembarkation in Dunkirk.
Cabins had to be vacated by 7:30 AM. Buffet open until 9 AM.
Elevator number 1 was "reserved," leaving only number 2, which doesn’t go up to deck 11... a problem for people with mobility issues who had to cross the entire deck 11 and try to use one of the four working elevators at the front, which were crowded.
My opinion: Interesting stops.
The onboard staff were always welcoming, smiling, and mostly French-speaking.
Evening shows were better than in March/April 2025—better singers, dancers, and presenters, and the costumes were improved.
I liked the "magician" shows less.
There were three onboard lectures by a very cultured person, but they went off-topic and were too historical for my taste. I didn’t attend the other two; my husband went to the second but not the third.
For this cruise, there was a bridge theme, but we’re not players or interested.
We didn’t take a drink package on board—water, coffee, tea, and herbal teas were available.
We had a water leak in our cabin the night before disembarkation. We reported it, and after the technical staff came (with a translator who didn’t speak English), we were asked to leave the cabin for a while for repairs. We went to a lounge, and after 1.5 hours, I checked in at reception. The repair took longer than expected... we had to change cabins... not ideal the night before disembarkation. No balcony cabins were available, so we got an ocean-view cabin, 6075, with a bathtub (impossible for both of us to use). We packed our suitcases, took a shower in our cabin, and moved to the new one. Noise from chairs until 12:30 AM because the cabin was under a lounge, and constant ventilation noise in the hallway... sleep was hard to come by. Disembarkation: Well organized. We were helped with transporting the two suitcases and bags to the waiting room while I took the shuttle to get the car. Guylène
We had a water leak in our cabin the night before disembarkation. We reported it, and after the technical staff came (with a translator who didn’t speak English), we were asked to leave the cabin for a while for repairs. We went to a lounge, and after 1.5 hours, I checked in at reception. The repair took longer than expected... we had to change cabins... not ideal the night before disembarkation. No balcony cabins were available, so we got an ocean-view cabin, 6075, with a bathtub (impossible for both of us to use). We packed our suitcases, took a shower in our cabin, and moved to the new one. Noise from chairs until 12:30 AM because the cabin was under a lounge, and constant ventilation noise in the hallway... sleep was hard to come by. Disembarkation: Well organized. We were helped with transporting the two suitcases and bags to the waiting room while I took the shuttle to get the car. Guylène
Hi there,
Here’s the 2027 cruise schedule.
It’s a great way to get ideas and maybe even meet up with other members!
2 essential rules:
1) Never "quote" the schedule when replying—this avoids any confusion. 2) Follow this format: DD/MM - username / SHIP IN CAPS / number of days / cruise title / departure port DON’T FORGET THE SPACES between the / /
REMINDER Despite my requests, few people follow the requested format. Cruises that stray too far from it won’t be listed anymore—sorry about that. IMPORTANT Please respect the templates! PLEASE COPY AND PASTE THE FORMAT BELOW AND REPLACE WITH YOUR DETAILS IF YOU’RE HAVING TROUBLE DD/MM - username / SHIP IN CAPS / number of days / cruise title / departure port DON’T FORGET THE SPACES between the / / It takes time to fix mistakes, so THANKS TO EVERYONE for your help!
YOUR TURN 😉
NUMBER OF 2027 CRUISES: 1 JANUARY 14/01 - poupou10 / AZAMARA JOURNEY / 74 days / South America Tour / Miami FEBRUARY MARCH APRIL MAY JUNE JULY AUGUST SEPTEMBER OCTOBER NOVEMBER DECEMBER
1) Never "quote" the schedule when replying—this avoids any confusion. 2) Follow this format: DD/MM - username / SHIP IN CAPS / number of days / cruise title / departure port DON’T FORGET THE SPACES between the / /
REMINDER Despite my requests, few people follow the requested format. Cruises that stray too far from it won’t be listed anymore—sorry about that. IMPORTANT Please respect the templates! PLEASE COPY AND PASTE THE FORMAT BELOW AND REPLACE WITH YOUR DETAILS IF YOU’RE HAVING TROUBLE DD/MM - username / SHIP IN CAPS / number of days / cruise title / departure port DON’T FORGET THE SPACES between the / / It takes time to fix mistakes, so THANKS TO EVERYONE for your help!
YOUR TURN 😉
NUMBER OF 2027 CRUISES: 1 JANUARY 14/01 - poupou10 / AZAMARA JOURNEY / 74 days / South America Tour / Miami FEBRUARY MARCH APRIL MAY JUNE JULY AUGUST SEPTEMBER OCTOBER NOVEMBER DECEMBER
hi there
Here’s the cruise schedule for 2026.
It’s a great way to get ideas and maybe even meet up with other members.
2 essential rules:
1) never "quote" the calendar when replying—this’ll avoid any confusion 2) follow the format below DD/MM - username / SHIP IN CAPS / number of days / cruise title / departure port DON’T FORGET THE SPACES between the / /
REMINDER Despite my requests, few people follow the requested format. Cruises that stray too far from it won’t be listed anymore—sorry!PLEASE respect the templates! COPY AND PASTE THE FORMAT BELOW AND REPLACE WITH YOUR DETAILS IF YOU’RE STRUGGLING DD/MM - username / SHIP IN CAPS / number of days / cruise title / departure port DON’T FORGET THE SPACES between the / / It takes time to fix mistakes, so THANKS TO EVERYONE for your help!
YOUR TURN 😉
NUMBER OF CRUISES 2026: JANUARY FEBRUARY MARCH APRIL MAY JUNE JULY AUGUST SEPTEMBER OCTOBER NOVEMBER DECEMBER
1) never "quote" the calendar when replying—this’ll avoid any confusion 2) follow the format below DD/MM - username / SHIP IN CAPS / number of days / cruise title / departure port DON’T FORGET THE SPACES between the / /
REMINDER Despite my requests, few people follow the requested format. Cruises that stray too far from it won’t be listed anymore—sorry!PLEASE respect the templates! COPY AND PASTE THE FORMAT BELOW AND REPLACE WITH YOUR DETAILS IF YOU’RE STRUGGLING DD/MM - username / SHIP IN CAPS / number of days / cruise title / departure port DON’T FORGET THE SPACES between the / / It takes time to fix mistakes, so THANKS TO EVERYONE for your help!
YOUR TURN 😉
NUMBER OF CRUISES 2026: JANUARY FEBRUARY MARCH APRIL MAY JUNE JULY AUGUST SEPTEMBER OCTOBER NOVEMBER DECEMBER
Hi there,
I'm looking at a cruise in the north.Which one do you think is more interesting? Thanks
Hello
We’re taking an MSC cruise in May, and after the Cinque Terre, we’ll be stopping in Naples. We’d like to know if it’s possible to walk out of the port quickly and reach a nice area of Naples on foot (we’re two older people). While we’re at it, I’ll ask the same question for Palermo, since we’ll be there the next day. Thanks for your replies.
We’re taking an MSC cruise in May, and after the Cinque Terre, we’ll be stopping in Naples. We’d like to know if it’s possible to walk out of the port quickly and reach a nice area of Naples on foot (we’re two older people). While we’re at it, I’ll ask the same question for Palermo, since we’ll be there the next day. Thanks for your replies.
Hi everyone,
I’m staying in a suite on the Pacifica in October and I can’t find any details about the suite benefits beyond the elite restaurant, the butler, and the espresso machine.
What about breakfast and meals served free in the cabin, and the spa?
Costa’s been cutting back on perks for Gold members, and it seems like suites are next.
Thanks for your replies!
hi,
I’m leaving Hamburg for Iceland at the end of July. The boat arrives in Reykjavik on Tuesday, August 4th at 8 AM, and I’d like to book a day trip like the Golden Circle or Secret Lagoon… The sites like GetYourGuide and others list departures at 8 AM. If you’ve used these sites with the MSC Preziosa, could you let me know how to go about it?
Thanks! 😉
allyMB007
Hi
Has anyone taken the CFC recently?
Thoughts?
Thanks
Thoughts?
Thanks
Hello everyone,
It’s with immense sadness that I learned this morning of the passing of our friend Nathalie (nadu). Many of us knew her through this forum, which she loved so much. She enjoyed reading your travel stories, joining discussions, sharing her cruise reviews, and offering valuable advice—always with kindness, gentleness, and discretion.
For me, Nathalie was so much more than just a cruise enthusiast. She was a friend, a deeply kind person who was always there to listen, despite the many health challenges she faced with tremendous courage. We corresponded regularly, and sometimes we had the chance to visit each other’s homes or attend the cruise show together with our respective husbands.
We shared a common dream: when we both retired, we had planned to finally go on a cruise together. Life had other plans, and that trip will forever remain a journey we never had the chance to take. That thought weighs heavily on my heart today.
I’ll remember her as a gentle, generous woman who was always ready to help others. Her presence on this forum will leave a huge void, just as her friendship has in my life.
I send my sincerest thoughts to her husband, her family, and all those who had the chance to know her.
Fair winds, Nathalie. I like to think you’re now sailing on an infinitely calm sea, under an eternally blue sky. You’ll remain in our thoughts and hearts every time we talk about cruises or set off on a new journey.
Rest in peace, Nathalie.
For those who’d like to send a message of comfort and sympathy to her husband, you can send me a PM, and I’ll pass it along. THANK YOU
For me, Nathalie was so much more than just a cruise enthusiast. She was a friend, a deeply kind person who was always there to listen, despite the many health challenges she faced with tremendous courage. We corresponded regularly, and sometimes we had the chance to visit each other’s homes or attend the cruise show together with our respective husbands.
We shared a common dream: when we both retired, we had planned to finally go on a cruise together. Life had other plans, and that trip will forever remain a journey we never had the chance to take. That thought weighs heavily on my heart today.
I’ll remember her as a gentle, generous woman who was always ready to help others. Her presence on this forum will leave a huge void, just as her friendship has in my life.
I send my sincerest thoughts to her husband, her family, and all those who had the chance to know her.
Fair winds, Nathalie. I like to think you’re now sailing on an infinitely calm sea, under an eternally blue sky. You’ll remain in our thoughts and hearts every time we talk about cruises or set off on a new journey.
Rest in peace, Nathalie.
For those who’d like to send a message of comfort and sympathy to her husband, you can send me a PM, and I’ll pass it along. THANK YOU
Hello everyone,
So happy to be back on this Forum!
We’re heading off on another cruise—our 7th—after a 5-year break...
We’ll be leaving from Venice on April 26th with stops in Kotor, Mykonos, Santorini, and Ancona.
Could you help me plan the stops by sharing tips, tricks, and advice?
For those who already know me, you know we prefer not to take the cruise line’s excursions but instead organize everything ourselves.
Thanks in advance to everyone, and looking forward to chatting with you all!
Hello,
We’re taking a cruise to Northern Europe with a stop in SOUTHAMPTON.
We’d like to visit the Stonehenge site.
Is it possible to get there on our own (my husband is a wheelchair user), since the MSC excursion to Salisbury is priced at 127 € per person?
There’s also a stop in Rotterdam, and it seems there’s a "miniature village to visit" nearby. Has anyone here been there, and if so, how did you get there?
Thanks so much for your tips. Mum49
If you're traveling on the Costa Diadema from October 17th to 28th, 2026 to Lisbon, we can meet up for a drink. Share our cruising experiences, an excursion, a table...
hi there, a group of friends and I are going on a cruise at the end of June with CFC in Norway. I’d love to get some info on the different stops we’ll be making. Most of them are one-day stops (from around 10 AM to 8 PM on average). Here are the stops: Andalsnes, Trondheim, Honningsvåg, Alta, Hellesylt, Sandane, Austefjorden.
Thanks in advance to anyone who can share what there is to see or do in these places.
When I get back, I’ll post what we did—it might help others who come after us.
Also, does anyone know if the boat sticks to the arrival time in Dunkirk for catching tickets to head back south? We’ll plan a buffer just in case.
Thanks everyone!
Thanks in advance to anyone who can share what there is to see or do in these places.
When I get back, I’ll post what we did—it might help others who come after us.
Also, does anyone know if the boat sticks to the arrival time in Dunkirk for catching tickets to head back south? We’ll plan a buffer just in case.
Thanks everyone!
Hi there, The day before boarding the Costa Favolosa for the Norwegian Fjords cruise departing from Hamburg, I'd like to book a hotel. Which one would be the most convenient location-wise relative to the port?
Thanks in advance for your reply.
Hello,
We’ll be sailing on the Renaissance with CFC to southern Norway from July 4 to 11, 2026, departing from Dunkirk (the cruise was booked through "Planète Croisière").
When entering some personal details or pre-selecting options on the CFC website, I’m wondering about the "optional" categories for drinks and WiFi.
I’m actually a bit surprised by these extra charges, as we weren’t used to them on other cruises (Australis in Patagonia; Hurtigruten’s Coastal Express in Norway and Alaska; Rivages du Monde in the Arctic or on the Douro River; a Nile river cruise in Egypt), where we sometimes had access to basic drinks at meals and free WiFi when near land.
Anyway, for those who’ve already taken a CFC cruise on the Renaissance, could you share some advice? Specifically about the most basic drink package, called "Fraîcheur" (238 € for two), which doesn’t seem to be described anywhere. The "Premium" package seems excessive (490 € for two for the week) for light drinkers.
As for WiFi, it’s 10 € per day per person. While I find that price acceptable for parking our car in Dunkirk, it feels overpriced here (especially since it was free on the Nordlys "Coastal Express" just 3 or 4 years ago).
So, I’d love to hear from experienced cruisers who’ve been on this ship!
Looking forward to seeing the excursion prices, which should be available soon! 😐
Thanks in advance!
Thanks in advance!
Hi there,
I’d love to hear from travelers who’ve done this cruise with Rivages du Monde or CroisiEurope.
Thanks!
Elettra69
Hi there,
I’m considering a cruise on this ship in the recently introduced Yacht Club category.
Have any forum members tried it?
What are your thoughts? Positive or negative? Which cabins should we go for—or avoid?
We’re already familiar with the Yacht Clubs on the Splendida, Fantasia, Preziosa, and Divina series.
We weren’t as keen on the one on the Seashore—we found it too big.
Thanks in advance for your feedback!
Best,
Claudine
We're considering a new cruise soon and would like to try the Renaissance.
The uniqueness of the promenade cabins appeals to us, but could anyone give us some insights on the following points:
- Is the glass door sufficiently tinted to prevent outsiders from seeing into the cabin?
- Is the soundproofing good enough to block out conversations on the promenade deck?
Thanks in advance to anyone who can help!
Hi there,
Do you have a hotel near the cruise port (or easy to reach by metro with luggage) to recommend? I’m planning to spend two days there before boarding.
Thanks in advance! Claudine
Do you have a hotel near the cruise port (or easy to reach by metro with luggage) to recommend? I’m planning to spend two days there before boarding.
Thanks in advance! Claudine
Hello,
My husband, our two teens, and I are going on a cruise on the COSTA Esmeralda at the beginning of July. We’re thinking of exploring the ports on our own. Do any of you have recent experiences or tips to share? Are there shuttles between the port and the city center? Are they free? Looking forward to hearing from you.
My husband, our two teens, and I are going on a cruise on the COSTA Esmeralda at the beginning of July. We’re thinking of exploring the ports on our own. Do any of you have recent experiences or tips to share? Are there shuttles between the port and the city center? Are they free? Looking forward to hearing from you.
Hi, can you eat in the evening at the Costa Smeralda’s cafeteria, or do you have to dine at the restaurant? Thanks for your reply.
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Hi everyone,
As promised, here’s my review of the cruise I took from the 5th to the 19th on the MSC Virtuosa.
As you know, I had initially booked a cruise with Mein Schiff departing from Dubai (from Dubai to Cape Town). It was a 22-day cruise. Due to the issues in the Persian Gulf, my cruise was canceled by Mein Schiff.
So, we started looking for a Plan B because we really wanted to go. Especially my wife, who had just had a minor procedure and needed some rest. Since she had already taken time off, she was determined to travel. However, we were looking for an affordable Plan B since we weren’t sure when Mein Schiff or the airline would reimburse us.
While browsing online, I found a 15-day cruise departing from Pointe-à-Pitre (including flights, transfers, the cruise, and drinks) for a price of 1,200 € in a Fantastica balcony cabin. We thought, *Why not?*
I should mention that I’m not usually a big fan of MSC. My last experience with them was post-Covid (I took two cruises, one in 2021 and another in 2022), and it was honestly a disaster. We didn’t want to repeat that, but after talking to Catherine, who told me she was very happy with a short Christmas cruise, we decided to give it a try.
I have to say, I was left speechless. Honestly, the cruise was absolutely perfect. There’s nothing to complain about (or just a few minor details). In terms of service and food, I felt like I was on a premium cruise line. I’d even say MSC has nothing to envy from some of those companies. While premium lines like Holland, Celebrity, and Royal are cutting back on services, I think MSC has made huge improvements. Seriously, I wasn’t expecting this at all. You’ll see what I mean as we chat more.
I won’t do a full review like I usually do because there weren’t many stops: 1. We boarded in Pointe-à-Pitre 2. We stopped in Saint-Martin 3. Then it was a direct crossing to the Azores...
This cruise was really about relaxing, even if it’s not the kind of trip we usually take.
First off, I’m not a big fan of "flight and cruise" packages. I asked if we could leave two days early, but they said it wasn’t possible. We had to take the flight, then the bus, and board the ship directly.
It’s not really my thing, but given the price we paid and since we really wanted to relax, we thought, *Why not?*
Here’s the itinerary:
Boarding in Pointe-à-Pitre Saint-Martin Five days at sea The Azores Four days at sea Hamburg One day at sea Le Havre

But as I mentioned, it wasn’t about the itinerary. It was really about taking a break and unwinding. Honestly, I came back thrilled.
Departure and boarding details to come
As promised, here’s my review of the cruise I took from the 5th to the 19th on the MSC Virtuosa.
As you know, I had initially booked a cruise with Mein Schiff departing from Dubai (from Dubai to Cape Town). It was a 22-day cruise. Due to the issues in the Persian Gulf, my cruise was canceled by Mein Schiff.
So, we started looking for a Plan B because we really wanted to go. Especially my wife, who had just had a minor procedure and needed some rest. Since she had already taken time off, she was determined to travel. However, we were looking for an affordable Plan B since we weren’t sure when Mein Schiff or the airline would reimburse us.
While browsing online, I found a 15-day cruise departing from Pointe-à-Pitre (including flights, transfers, the cruise, and drinks) for a price of 1,200 € in a Fantastica balcony cabin. We thought, *Why not?*
I should mention that I’m not usually a big fan of MSC. My last experience with them was post-Covid (I took two cruises, one in 2021 and another in 2022), and it was honestly a disaster. We didn’t want to repeat that, but after talking to Catherine, who told me she was very happy with a short Christmas cruise, we decided to give it a try.
I have to say, I was left speechless. Honestly, the cruise was absolutely perfect. There’s nothing to complain about (or just a few minor details). In terms of service and food, I felt like I was on a premium cruise line. I’d even say MSC has nothing to envy from some of those companies. While premium lines like Holland, Celebrity, and Royal are cutting back on services, I think MSC has made huge improvements. Seriously, I wasn’t expecting this at all. You’ll see what I mean as we chat more.
I won’t do a full review like I usually do because there weren’t many stops: 1. We boarded in Pointe-à-Pitre 2. We stopped in Saint-Martin 3. Then it was a direct crossing to the Azores...
This cruise was really about relaxing, even if it’s not the kind of trip we usually take.
First off, I’m not a big fan of "flight and cruise" packages. I asked if we could leave two days early, but they said it wasn’t possible. We had to take the flight, then the bus, and board the ship directly.
It’s not really my thing, but given the price we paid and since we really wanted to relax, we thought, *Why not?*
Here’s the itinerary:
Boarding in Pointe-à-Pitre Saint-Martin Five days at sea The Azores Four days at sea Hamburg One day at sea Le Havre

But as I mentioned, it wasn’t about the itinerary. It was really about taking a break and unwinding. Honestly, I came back thrilled.
Departure and boarding details to come
Hi there
Is the water from the cabin sinks drinkable?
Is the water from the cabin sinks drinkable?
We’re stopping over in Rovinj this coming May, and since we’ve already visited the main sights (port, church, etc.), is there a walk we can do on our own—no boat needed—that would fill a morning?
Thanks to anyone who knows the area…
My wife and I are going on a cruise on the MS Vesteralen on August 4th. The ship stays close to the coast to deliver mail and packages. My wife is a musician and is sensitive to the movement of the boat. Which deck and cabin should we choose?
Thanks in advance
Thanks in advance
Hi there,
So, I booked this cruise...
I know CFC gets a lot of criticism—
- And that it’s not really like the ships I usually take.
But the destination really interested me...
So, I’m giving it a try...
I’m going in with an open mind, thinking I got a good deal, so I’m not expecting the same experience as when I travel with Yacht Club or The Haven.
We’ll see... soon!hi, we’re going on a cruise with MSC Virtuosa in the Caribbean. Has anyone done this cruise before and could give us some tips for excursions on the different islands? Thanks for your help
😉Hi there,
A few months ago, CFC put the EN VOGUE experience on sale, departing from Dunkirk.
I booked this package to test the boat and onboard services for myself.
I’d read a lot of reviews mentioning numerous issues on board, so I wanted to see for myself what it was really like…
Okay, I’ll stop rambling… The package included boarding at 6 PM on Friday, dinner, a show, an overnight stay, and breakfast. We chose an interior cabin for this experience—since the boat wasn’t leaving the dock, we didn’t see the point in paying more… All in all, it cost 130 € per person. My mom joined us; she got the same cabin for 130 € with no single occupancy supplement.
We’d checked in online to board faster. We took the train to DUNKIRK, then a taxi to the shuttle pavilion—7 € for the ride. When we arrived at the pavilion, we were told to wait because there was a connection issue with check-in. Great start… After about ten minutes, we were finally allowed to proceed. At the counter, they said they didn’t have our cabin cards and no record of our check-in… Very odd. With no solution, they put us on the bus and said we’d sort it out at reception. Perfect. We went through security, and they confiscated our water bottles—never seen that before! Then they said my mom had a corkscrew in her bag, so they searched it… but there was no corkscrew. Total amateur hour… They eventually dropped it.
We got on the bus for a ten-minute ride… We boarded the ship with a crew member and headed to reception. Turns out, we weren’t the only ones in this situation. The nightmare began… Only two staff members were handling all the issues, and everything seemed complicated. They told my mom her cabin had been given to someone else 😲. That was the last straw…
It took forever—they had to redo the entire check-in. Finally, they told my mom her cabin was good to go; they’d mixed her up with someone else… After a solid half-hour, we could finally head to our cabin.
I’m determined to test everything: the pool, jacuzzi, show, restaurant, spa, etc… TO BE CONTINUED
Okay, I’ll stop rambling… The package included boarding at 6 PM on Friday, dinner, a show, an overnight stay, and breakfast. We chose an interior cabin for this experience—since the boat wasn’t leaving the dock, we didn’t see the point in paying more… All in all, it cost 130 € per person. My mom joined us; she got the same cabin for 130 € with no single occupancy supplement.
We’d checked in online to board faster. We took the train to DUNKIRK, then a taxi to the shuttle pavilion—7 € for the ride. When we arrived at the pavilion, we were told to wait because there was a connection issue with check-in. Great start… After about ten minutes, we were finally allowed to proceed. At the counter, they said they didn’t have our cabin cards and no record of our check-in… Very odd. With no solution, they put us on the bus and said we’d sort it out at reception. Perfect. We went through security, and they confiscated our water bottles—never seen that before! Then they said my mom had a corkscrew in her bag, so they searched it… but there was no corkscrew. Total amateur hour… They eventually dropped it.
We got on the bus for a ten-minute ride… We boarded the ship with a crew member and headed to reception. Turns out, we weren’t the only ones in this situation. The nightmare began… Only two staff members were handling all the issues, and everything seemed complicated. They told my mom her cabin had been given to someone else 😲. That was the last straw…
It took forever—they had to redo the entire check-in. Finally, they told my mom her cabin was good to go; they’d mixed her up with someone else… After a solid half-hour, we could finally head to our cabin.
I’m determined to test everything: the pool, jacuzzi, show, restaurant, spa, etc… TO BE CONTINUED
Hi,
We received a promotion from our CFC agency offering cruises at up to 40-100% off, and among other details: CFC organizes parking for departures from Dunkirk.
"Unattended parking located about 12 minutes away, fenced off with barriers, at a rate of 10 € per day. Drop off passengers and luggage at the Model Pavilion, and a CFC shuttle will take you from the parking lot to the Model Pavilion every 15-20 minutes. Same for disembarkation. You can book through your agency or on their website. No refunds if the booking is canceled; payment is due at reservation."
Have a great day,
Guylène
PS: Personally, we’d rather keep our vehicle in a free, supervised parking lot and take a taxi to the Model Pavilion.