Bonjour (et très bonne année 2019 à tous)
eh bien voila, je repars pour la 4ème fois en Chine. J'ai pris mes billets du 28 avril au 11 mai, soit deux semaines. J'arrive à Kunming. Et, oui, c'est la semaine du 1er mai ma première semaine...
A priori, je me fixe 4 sites : Dali, Lijiang, Shangri-La et bien-entendu Kunming.
Du coup je me tâte sur l'ordre. J'ai ouï dire que le train allait désormais jusqu'à Shangri-Là, je me disais presque qu'on pourrait aller au plus loin d'abord et revenir via Lijiang et Dali. Qu'en dîtes-vous ?
Quelqu'un a-t-il pris le téléphérique pour Glacier Peak ?
Des musts ? Shilin est sur ma liste. La gorge du saut du tigre est en "could".
Merci pour vos avis et heureux de revoir certaines têtes qui étaient là il y a fort longtemps...
Shilin, je n'y croyais pas avec mon appréhension des sites AAAAA mais franchement, c'est sympa : vous avez l'air d'aimer prendre le temps de voyager, dormir sur place la veille pour y être tôt peut être agréable : le site est immense, on aime à se perdre dans les méandres des chemins éloignés des foules ...
Si j'étais vous, je ne commencerais pas par Shangri - là. C'est en altitude (un poil plus de 3000 m), avec le décalage horaire dans les pattes, tout le monde ne le supporte pas : ça a l'air de rien comme ça mais mieux vaut y penser !
Lijiang ... à eviter à mon avis mais à vous de voir bien sûr.
Maintenez Lijiang si vous hésitez, ou vous risquez d'être déçu mais à votre place, je prévoirai un autre village plus à l'abri des regards ... autour de Dali par exemple, le village peu animé mais authentique de Donglionghua est peu fréquenté des touristes.
Je l'ai tout simplement visité en suivant le routard mais attention à ne pas suivre leurs indications, dans mon souvenir ils vous envoyaient à la mauvaise gare de bus de la nouvelle ville de Dali.
...je lis de tout sur Lijiang... Quel est votre avis ?
De toute façon les avis sont subjectifs (et personnels). Un ressenti dépend de la personne.
Que lis-tu de positif ?
Que lis-tu de négatif ?
Je devine
"c'est une fausse vieille ville reconstituée"
Je suppose que c'est de la part d'architectes spécialistes qui savent reconnaître qu'une "vieille" maison en bois a 10 ans (ou 300) 😉
Probablement des personnes qui n'iront jamais visiter Guedelon en France (château-fort reconstitué) parce qu'il est "faux". Il vaut mieux aller voir une ruine sur laquelle il ne reste que 3 pierres (et qui ne ressemble plus du tout à un château). Mais au moins c'est vrai 🤪
Et d'ailleurs le vieux Shangri-La a presque totalement brûlé, il y a quelques années. Donc il faut aussi éviter de visiter Shangri La 😛
ou alors
"envahi de touristes chinois"
C'est vrai et comme certaines rues de Lijiang peuvent être étroites, on peut vite se marcher dessus.
Oui mais : Dali et Shangri-La ne sont pas mal comme haut-lieux du tourisme chinois. Et en plus tous ces touristes, se retrouvent inévitablement dans les quelques mêmes lieux de Lijiang et aux mêmes heures.
Personnellement, j'ai réussi à flâner, totalement seul (ou presque) dans Lijiang et c'est très sympa.
Bref, moi, je te conseille d'y aller et de te faire ton propre avis. Mais évidemment, ne le fais pas le nez dans ton guide (surtout du Routard) sachant que ce conseil n'est pas valable que pour Lijiang 😛
Durant mon voyage dans cette région, j'ai notamment visité les 4 sites que tu envisages de voir (Dali, Lijiang, Shangri-La/Zhongdian et Kunming) et si c'était à refaire, il n'y en a aucun que je retirerais.
Thierry
On dit souvent "Fermez la porte, il fait froid dehors !" Mais une fois la porte fermée, il fait toujours aussi froid dehors.
...je lis de tout sur Lijiang... Quel est votre avis ?
De toute façon les avis sont subjectifs (et personnels). Un ressenti dépend de la personne.
Que lis-tu de positif ?
Que lis-tu de négatif ?
Je devine
"c'est une fausse vieille ville reconstituée"
Je suppose que c'est de la part d'architectes spécialistes qui savent reconnaître qu'une "vieille" maison en bois a 10 ans (ou 300) 😉
Probablement des personnes qui n'iront jamais visiter Guedelon en France (château-fort reconstitué) parce qu'il est "faux". Il vaut mieux aller voir une ruine sur laquelle il ne reste que 3 pierres (et qui ne ressemble plus du tout à un château). Mais au moins c'est vrai 🤪
Et d'ailleurs le vieux Shangri-La a presque totalement brûlé, il y a quelques années. Donc il faut aussi éviter de visiter Shangri La 😛
ou alors
"envahi de touristes chinois"
C'est vrai et comme certaines rues de Lijiang peuvent être étroites, on peut vite se marcher dessus.
Oui mais : Dali et Shangri-La ne sont pas mal comme haut-lieux du tourisme chinois. Et en plus tous ces touristes, se retrouvent inévitablement dans les quelques mêmes lieux de Lijiang et aux mêmes heures.
Personnellement, j'ai réussi à flâner, totalement seul (ou presque) dans Lijiang et c'est très sympa.
Bref, moi, je te conseille d'y aller et de te faire ton propre avis. Mais évidemment, ne le fais pas le nez dans ton guide (surtout du Routard) sachant que ce conseil n'est pas valable que pour Lijiang 😛
Durant mon voyage dans cette région, j'ai notamment visité les 4 sites que tu envisages de voir (Dali, Lijiang, Shangri-La/Zhongdian et Kunming) et si c'était à refaire, il n'y en a aucun que je retirerais.
Un nombre considérable de monuments en Chine sont des reconstructions, voire des reconstitutions modernes. Par exemple, les temples de l'île de Putuoshan ont tous été détruits pendant la Révolution Culturelle, et reconstruits à partir de l'an 2000. J'ai vu (re-)construire à partir de zéro la muraille de Datong devant laquelle des touristes s'émerveillent aujourd'hui.
Certains disent d'ailleurs que la vieille ville de Lijiang est deux fois plus vaste aujourd'hui qu'elle ne le fut autrefois.
Ce que j'en dis de tout ça, c'est que le voyage commence à Shangri-la. Pas pour redescendre vers Lijiang, plutôt pour continuer au nord ! Mais puisque ton temps est compté, je te suggère de conserver les villes que tu as identifiées et de te faire ton propre avis. Voici le mien :
- Kunming : très bien pour passer 2/3 jours, se remettre du décalage horaire et prendre petit à petit le rythme
- Dali : je m'y suis retrouvé un samedi soir d'août, quel enfer 😎 Ceci dit, les Chinois font partie intégrante d'un voyage en Chine, qu'ils soient 10 perdus dans la montagne ou des milliers agglutinés dans quelques rues. J'ajoute qu'il y a un site très sympa pour déambuler à Dali, constitué de trois pagodes blanches et d'une enfilade de temples (le nom m'échappe).
- Lijiang : pas spécialement emballé ni rebuté.
- la randonnée des gorges du saut du tigre : j'ai adoré (à la fois pour la marche en elle-même que pour les paysages)
- Shangri-la : la porte d'entrée vers le Tibet. Le début du voyage (et accessoirement une ville où il y a beaucoup de belles choses à voir).
Il est normal que l'avis sur Lijiang soit controversé, Car effectivement, c'est une reconstruction récente et moderne, rien n'est d'origine dans l'architecture. J'y ai passé une semaine l'an dernier, mais pas pour Lijiang mais pour des sites situés au nord. Et c'était hors des périodes touristiques.
Quelques points positifs :
- Les toitures en tuiles grises vues depuis les hauteurs donne un bel ensemble qui vaut le détour.
- J'y ai trouvé des boutiques artisanales de grande qualité ( pas toutes) comme on en voit peu souvent en Chine.
- Certains paysages sont top comme par exemple le parc de l'étang du Dragon noir. Le lac, la pagode, la forêt tropicale et la montagne du Dragon de jade forme un paysage qui correspond au style Shan shui. Les chinois le considère comme le plus beau paysage de Chine, mais chacun se fera son idée. Pour moi, j'y ai fait de belles photos.
Nous terminons actuellement un voyage de 4 semaines dans la Yúnnán et nous en sommes ravis.
Notre parcours a été : Kunming 2 jours, Jianshui 2J, Yuanyang-Duoyishu 4J, Lijiang 2J, Gorges du Saut du Tigre 2J, Shaxi 4J, Dali 4J, Shilin 1J.
Nous avons particulièrement apprécié les étapes comme Shaxi (théâtres, villages voisins, vie rurale), Lijiang, et Jianshui (avec Tongshan). Les points forts : l’architecture des villages, les marchés, les balades à pied ou à vélo, l’excellente cuisine (une variété de légumes incroyable). L’endroit qui nous a semblé évitable est Dali, très peuplé, même si l’on peut repérer les zones du tourisme organisé et standardisé, et ainsi les éviter.
Les habitants sont sympas, mais ne parlant pas chinois, la communication a été limitée aux quelques anglophones rencontrés.
Nous ne sommes pas allés à Shangri-La, manque de temps, nous aimons prendre notre temps.
Pour ma part je fais partie de ceux qui ont apprécié Lijiang.
Les ruelles sont magnifiques, il faut s'y balader tôt le matin pour la tranquilité puis à un autre horaire pour "profiter" de l'animation...
Dali par contre...
Jianshui, autre très bon souvenir
et les gorges du saut du tigre, à faire
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I could really use your help to finalize our trip to Japan.
We’re heading there for three weeks with my partner, starting November 10th. Our plan was to visit Tokyo, Kyoto, and a few stops in between (nothing too original so far…).
However, we’re more into nature and hiking, so even though we do want to explore Tokyo and Kyoto, we’d like to maximize nature stops between the two. Initially, we’d considered places like Kamikochi, but I understand it’s not accessible this late in the season.
Hi there,
I’d like to do this cycling route over 2 or 3 days. I’m struggling to figure out and find a (good) bike rental that lets me start in Onomichi and drop off in Imabari. Can anyone help with great tips for rentals and accommodations along the route? How do I get back to Onomichi afterward?
Next year, we’re celebrating 20 years of marriage (and travel 🙂), and we’re looking for something new, pretty legendary, and something the teens will enjoy too.
The family council has settled on Japan for now. And it’d have to be a summer trip—no choice there.
The catch: I keep reading that August isn’t the right season for southern Japan. It’s hot, humid, and there’s a risk of typhoons… Okay, but what does that *actually* mean in practice? Are there any travelers who’ve been there during this time? Is it *that* unbearable?
We’re pretty familiar with Southeast Asia—last year, we dealt with scorching heat in Vietnam and insane humidity, plus a typhoon we experienced from a distance, and visiting Angkor in the blazing sun. Is it worse than that?
I’m back with my detailed itinerary for 20 days in South Korea—it’s my first trip to the country. Our idea is to experience a more rural and cultural Korea. Here’s the rough plan: Seoul for 4 nights at the start and 1 night at the end, Gurye for 4 nights, Suncheon for 4 nights, Namhae for 4 nights, and Gyeongju for 2 nights. The goal is to pick a base and explore the surrounding areas. What do you think of this itinerary? Anything you’d change?
thanks
hi everyone, we're heading out for a 12-day trek in the Japanese Alps. We're bringing freeze-dried meals like we always do. We just found out that importing meat is banned, even freeze-dried. Is that true? We already bought them. They're commercially made freeze-dried meals. Online, it's not specified that they have to be "commercially made" because you can make your own freeze-dried food. And since we've heard they're really strict in Japan, can anyone confirm this for us? thanks
I haven’t found what I’m looking for despite my searches!
For a 15-day trip next spring, I’d like to buy a card (preferably an eSIM, but a physical SIM is fine too) that also lets me make calls in the country (to contact a hotel, a tourist spot, etc.).
You can easily find options just for data, but I haven’t come across any that include calls, texts, or even MMS.
Could you recommend something?
hi there
I’m planning a trip in September—here’s my rough itinerary. What do you think? Is it easy to rent a car to get around between my stops? Thanks so much!
Philippe
StopNightsFull daysSeoul44Gurye (Jirisan)43Suncheon43Namhae43Gyeongju21Seoul1—
Hi,
July 2026: I’m writing to you from Dali.
First, I got scammed on Booking—AI-retouched photos. No tourists at this hotel (Yishanju Designer Hotel), and the reality was horrible: dirty, with a disgusting breakfast. It’s better to use Trip.com here.
Next, the old town was an infernal cacophony, packed with tourists who shoved past without a care. Some vendors harassed you to buy things. All the stalls sold the same cheap plastic junk or other uninteresting stuff. The beautiful scenery was ruined by vendors lining 100% of the alleys. Impossible to walk, crushing heat, nothing good to eat except fresh fruit. Horrible experience.
Day 2: We went to Cangshan Mountain by cable car—the ride was short and nothing spectacular. We were at 2,600 m.
My plan was to see Erhai Lake. Unfortunately, I followed the advice of an AI chatbot: take the boat at Langkan Dock. The Didi dropped us off in the nearest area, which was full of charming little alleys but packed with Chinese tourists. The three-wheeled yellow cabs zoomed through the narrow streets, forcing you to hug the walls, on top of the scooters and other pedestrians to deal with. Crossing the neighborhood was hellish and suffocating. Once out, we hit the "corniche," which was also packed with Chinese tourists. The lake’s edge was all pebbles, and everyone was standing around taking photos. I was with my 5-year-old son. I would’ve liked to sit down and let him play with stones by the water, but it was clear we didn’t belong. They were even shoving each other for a shot! There were no boats in sight. In short, we’d had enough, and there was nothing interesting there either.
On the way back, we had to cross that maze again under the scorching sun. My son was braver than me—I even had a little dizzy spell from all the chaos. Add to that Dali’s altitude (2,200 m), so altitude insomnia, fatigue, and vulnerability during the day...
The restaurants weren’t inviting—the staff served sticky rice in a little bucket. The dishes were wrapped, and you had to figure it out yourself. After that, they ignored you completely, even if you were the only tourist.
On the 3rd day, it was time to leave for Shaxi. I hope to see beautiful villages. But honestly, I’m exhausted by this atmosphere where everything is complicated, communication is never smooth, noise is everywhere, and the behavior of some Chinese people is abusive...
Silver lining: not a drop of rain in 4 days and blue skies.
I couldn’t visit the villages in southern Yunnan because of rain and storms there...
But I was expecting to see a few more tourists.
We’re planning a 17-day trip to South Korea in October 2026 with my husband and our daughters, who’ll be 9 years old.
I’d love to get your thoughts on our draft itinerary.
First, some key details:
1/ Jeju Island is a must for us. I’ve personally dreamed of going there for years after reading a novel about it.
2/ Our girls are used to road-trip style travel since they were born, so this kind of trip won’t be an issue for them.
3/ We plan to travel by train, except on Jeju where we’ll rent a car (we already have an international driver’s permit).
Itinerary:
Seoul: 1 arrival day at 10 AM + 4 full days
Gyeongju: 2 days
Busan: 3 days
Jeju: 4 days
Seoul: 2 days
Hi there,
My girlfriend (23) and I (24) are heading to Japan for the first time from October 20th to November 6th. Here’s our itinerary:
6 nights in Tokyo
1 night in Hakone (ryokan already booked)
4 nights in Kyoto (hotel already booked)
2 nights in Osaka
4 nights back in Tokyo
I’d like to book hotels for Tokyo (both stays) and Osaka, but I’ve gotten so many different recommendations.
I’ve read that Shinjuku is the place to be for its huge hub, accessibility, and things to do, but I’ve also heard about Shibuya, Asakusa, and Ueno.
I’ve looked at hotels, and first off, I’m surprised by the prices compared to what I’ve seen on forums (I guess inflation’s hit here too… and maybe I’m late to the booking game?). I’m feeling a bit overwhelmed with all the options.
For our first stay in Tokyo, I’d prefer a hotel (not a residence or Airbnb) since we’ll be arriving at night, and it’s our first time in Japan. It’d be great to have a place with a reception, staff who speak at least a little English, and can give us some guidance. For the second stay, we could consider other options if it’s better.
Budget-wise, we can go up to 150–180 € per night, but if we can save some money to spend elsewhere, that’d be amazing!
I’m open to all recommendations, hotel suggestions, or any other tips for Tokyo (first stay), Osaka, and Tokyo (second stay).
I’m starting to look at neighborhoods in Seoul, and I’m leaning toward staying in a hotel in Insa-Dong—I’ve spotted one really close to Unhyeongung.
Is this a good area—nice and convenient for exploring the city?
Otherwise, I’ve also found another hotel in Yongsan-Gu, right near the station of the same name. Is that station useful for getting around Seoul?
Since I’ll be in South Korea for nearly two months, I plan to spend at least a week in Seoul to recover from jet lag (it takes me a while to adjust...). So, I’d love a neighborhood that’s pleasant and a hotel not too far from a subway station.
Hi there,
I’m getting ready for a classic tourist trip to China in May 2026.
The "Terres Lointaines" itinerary looks good to me, and the price is interesting.
Has anyone traveled with them before? Any feedback?
Is there a better option?
Thanks so much for sharing your experiences on this!
Michel
I just booked my hotel in Seoul—it’ll be near Unhyeongung, on Samil-Daero 30-Gil—and I’m wondering if there’s public transport from the airport to this address (bus or subway)? If not, what’s the taxi fare? I read it’s around 50 or 60 €.
I’m traveling to Japan with a young adult with autism (ASD) from July 28 to August 8, following a pretty classic route: Osaka, Hiroshima, Kyoto, and Tokyo. I’m looking for a schedule of the most spectacular fireworks displays during that time. So far, the dates for the major *hanabi* events aren’t available online yet. If anyone has them, I’d really appreciate it if you could share!
We’ll be doing a self-drive trip using public transport in May 2026.
On Day 6, we’ll arrive in Hakone by train from Tokyo in late morning. We’ll spend the night in Hakone before heading to Kyoto.
The main goal of this stop is clearly the view (no hiking) of Mount Fuji, not so much exploring Hakone, where the sights seem limited.
I’ve read on the forum that the view is great from Gotemba, but it also takes a good hour by bus to get there. And, apart from that view, there’s nothing else to see in Gotemba!
So, I’m not sure what to choose. Any thoughts? Or alternatives to suggest?
Maybe some spots in Hakone or Gotemba for a great view?
Hi everyone, I’m Julien!
This summer, from late June to late July, I’m planning a one-month solo trip to Japan—my first time!
I’d love to hear your thoughts and advice on the itinerary I’ve put together to explore this amazing country.
Here are the routes I’m considering:
**Option 1: More mountain and nature-focused**
Tokyo: 8 nights, with day trips to Nikko and maybe the Izu Peninsula
Kawaguchiko (Lake Kawaguchi/Mt. Fuji): 1 night. The place looks stunning, but I’m worried Mt. Fuji might not be visible due to the weather
Kyoto: 6–7 nights (including a trip to Nara)
Osaka: 1–2 nights, where I’d like to drop off my things to make the Kumano Kodo easier
Kumano Kodo: 3 nights—an experience I haven’t seen much elsewhere, but I thought it sounded really interesting
Hiroshima: 2 nights
Miyajima: 1 night
Takayama: 3 days
Kanazawa: 3 days (From what I understand, the Osaka–Takayama–Kanazawa–Tokyo route is convenient for transport)
Tokyo: 1 night (return)
**Option 2: More varied but a bit vague in parts**
Tokyo: 8 nights
Kyoto: 7 nights (+ Nara)
Osaka: 2 nights
Kobe + Himeji: just passing through—I’m not sure if it’s worth a night
Naoshima: 1 night—still pretty unclear for me
Takamatsu: 2 nights. An interesting city, but I’m not sure how long to stay
Shimanami Kaido: biking from Imabari to Onomichi, then heading to Hiroshima
Hiroshima: 2 nights
Miyajima: 1 night
Kyushu road trip (Aso + onsens + Fukuoka): 5 nights (also pretty vague—I could fly from Fukuoka back to Tokyo)
Tokyo: 1 night
**Option 3: More balanced/simplified**
Tokyo: 8 nights
Kawaguchiko: 1 night
Kyoto: 7 nights (+ Nara)
Osaka: 2 nights
Koya-san: 1 night
Kumano Kodo: 3 nights
Takayama: 3 nights
Kanazawa: 3 nights
Tokyo: 1 night
A few key points:
I haven’t made any reservations yet, except for the flight tickets.
I know my plans are too packed and will need to be adjusted.
I’m specifically looking for advice on which stops to cut or shorten.
Hello everyone,
Like Cedric13600, I’ve booked a flight ticket for 30 days / 29 nights in September 2026, from Beijing to Shanghai. We’re a couple in our sixties who love independent road trips.
I’d like to draw inspiration from the following private itinerary suggested by a travel agency:
Day 1: Arrival in Beijing
Day 2 to 4: Beijing
Day 5: Datong
Day 6 & 7: Pingyao
Day 8 to 10: Xi'an
Day 11: Luoyang
Day 12: Dengfeng
flight
Day 13 & 14: Chongqing
flight
Day 15 & 16: Lijiang
Day 17: Dali
Day 18: Kunming
Day 19: Jianshui
Day 20 & 21: Yuanyang
Day 22: Travel via Guilin
Day 23 & 24: Yangshuo
Day 25: Guilin
Day 26 & 27: Zhangjiajie
flight
Day 28 & 29: Shanghai
Day 30: Departure from Shanghai
But to do this itinerary independently:
1. This schedule seems very ambitious to me—what do you think?
2. If it’s too packed, what would you remove as a priority?
Thanks so much in advance for your help.
I’m planning a 5-week trip between Yunnan and Sichuan from mid-October to the end of November 2026:
Arriving in Kunming, I’ll do a loop in the far south of Yunnan via Thonghai, Jhiansu, Zhemi, Yuanyang, Nafa, Jinping, Mengzi, and Shilin (visiting markets, villages, and hiking), then head to northern Yunnan/southern Sichuan on the same theme (passing through Kunming again) via Dongchuan, Huize, Qiaojia, Puge, Xichang, Lanba, Butuo, Huolie, Dimo, Riha, Niuniuba, Meigu, Mabian, and Leshan, before arriving in Chengdu (where I’ll take my return flight to Paris).
This would be a trip with a strong ethnic/rural focus. Since I’ve never traveled in China, I’d love to hear your thoughts on doing this solo. Are there public transport options in the region? What tips do you have for traveling through this area as smoothly and enjoyably as possible? I’ve done quite a bit of backpacking in the mountains of northern Vietnam and really enjoyed using local motorbike drivers. Is something like that available in this region (through local tourist agencies or hotels)?
What should I be cautious about? Are local tourist agencies (or hotels) offering tours and guides reliable? If you know of any specialized sites sharing tips or experiences, or names of local agencies, hotels, etc., please don’t hesitate to share them! :)
In short, all your advice (on any topic that comes to mind!) is very welcome.
Thanks so much!
While researching South Korea, I came across the term "templestay," which refers to a Korean program that lets you stay in a traditional temple to discover Buddhism and Korean culture by living like the temple residents and doing activities like making lanterns.
A templestay isn’t just for foreign tourists—on the booking site, I saw that some temples are more geared toward foreigners, with English-speaking monks.
I was wondering if it’s still worth it, especially in temples where the monks don’t speak English?
I'm 69 years old and heading to China, where most tourist sites are free or discounted for me. However, trip.com either refuses to let me book because the sites are free or doesn’t apply the discount. Does WeChat apply this discount if I book through them? How can I just reserve without paying and pay on-site? Is that possible?
I’d love to get some feedback on our 30-day / 29-night itinerary in China. We’ll be there in September as a family with two kids (6 and 10 years old).
Do you think I should cut a few nights between Wulingyuan (Avatar Mountain) and Yangshuo? I’ve planned 15 nights total there.
We’ll be on a round-the-world trip starting May 2026 and will need to do schoolwork with the kids. Hoping to fit it in during train rides!!
Ever since I started planning this China itinerary, I’ve been discovering completely mind-blowing places I’d never heard of before—30 days feels way too short for China!!!
Here’s our itinerary:
Beijing - 4 nights
Forbidden City
Great Wall of China
Temple of Heaven
Xi’an - 3 nights
Terracotta Army
Muslim Quarter & Great Mosque
Chengdu - 3 nights
Zoo - Research Base of Giant Panda Breeding
Wenshu Yuan Temple
Hi there,
We just got back from a 2-week trip to China as a couple, and before we left, the budget was the hardest thing to picture concretely. We found plenty of info on visas, apps, transport, and itineraries, but way fewer detailed breakdowns of what you *actually* spend on the ground.
So, we took the time to share our real budget for 14 days. In our case, we spent around 1,800 € per person, with a big chunk of that going toward round-trip flights at about 600 € per person. We were also pretty surprised by how affordable China can be once you’re there—transport is often cheap, and a lot of everyday expenses stay reasonable.
The trickiest part, in the end, was figuring out how to pay while you’re there, since it’s not always obvious if you’re not prepared. But once everything’s set up and you get the hang of it, it’s really smooth.
If this can help other travelers get a better idea before they go, we’ve broken it all down here:
https://aventures-sans-mesaventure.com/budget-2-semaines-de-voyage-en-chine/
Hi everyone,
I’ve been planning several itineraries for a trip to Japan with my wife but would love your insights before we start booking!
In short, we want to go during Golden Week, see late-blooming cherry trees, and have the freedom to get around with a rental car.
Here’s the plan:
18-day itinerary in Japan (April 25 → May 12)
Goal: freedom, late cherry blossoms, culture & nature
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Days 1–3: Tokyo (April 25–27)
Arrival and adjustment (no car needed yet).
Neighborhoods to visit: Shinjuku, Asakusa, Meiji Jingu, Shibuya, Odaiba.
Suggested activities: Ghibli Museum, Sumida River cruise, izakaya meals.
Late cherry blossoms (yaezakura) possible at Shinjuku Gyoen.
Pick up the rental car on the morning of April 27.
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Days 4–5: Mount Fuji & Hakone (April 27–28)
Route: Tokyo → Kawaguchiko/Hakone (~2 h).
Activities:
Lake Kawaguchi, Chureito Pagoda (Fuji views + late cherry blossoms)
Onsen baths, Hakone Open-Air Museum.
Stay: ryokan with onsen and views of Mount Fuji.
Activities:
Preserved old town, sake breweries, UNESCO village of Shirakawa-go.
Stay: traditional minshuku (thatched-roof house).
Cherry blossoms are finishing at this altitude — beautiful mountain/nature contrasts.
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Days 8–10: Kyoto & Nara (May 1–3)
Route: Takayama → Kyoto (~4 h 30).
Activities in Kyoto:
Fushimi Inari (red torii gates), Golden Pavilion, Arashiyama, Gion (geisha district).
Day trip to Nara:
Free-roaming deer in Nara Park, Todai-ji Temple, Kasuga Taisha Shrine.
Stay: Kyoto (3 nights).
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Day 11: Osaka or Himeji (May 4)
Route: Kyoto → Osaka (~1 h) or Himeji (~1 h 30).
Option 1: Osaka → modern vibe, street food, castle.
Option 2: Himeji → stunning UNESCO-listed castle.
Stay: Osaka.
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Days 12–13: Kanazawa (May 5–6)
Route: Osaka → Kanazawa (~4 h 30).
hi! Is it easy to use for paying for all the small purchases at the markets? INSTALLATION AND USE WITHOUT ISSUES—do you also need a VPN for China?
Secondly, for using phone and internet, I have Orange—is it reliable, or should I go with Airalo instead?
The info I found on the forum is a bit outdated, so I’m asking again!
1) What budget should I plan for 15 days, given that hotels with breakfast, transfers, and transport are already paid for? I know it depends on the person, but I’d love a rough idea. For meals, we’re thinking simple street food or small local restaurants.
2) I’ve heard that credit cards (we each have a Revolut + 1 Visa Premier) aren’t widely used and that it’s better to have cash. Can you confirm?
3) Are foreign credit cards still not accepted at bank ATMs? Still 7-Eleven or the Post Office? And what about American Express?
I'm planning a 19-day itinerary in Japan this summer.
For a first trip, Kyoto seems like a must. For the rest, I'm torn between:
- Matsumoto, Takayama, Kanazawa for 5 to 6 days
- Kyoto 4 days
- Nara 2 days
- Koyasan 1 day
- Hakone/Mount Fuji 2 to 3 days
- Tokyo 3 days
Or dedicating the first 6 days to Kyushu.
Maybe there’s less traditional Japan in Kyushu compared to the Japanese Alps?
Maybe Kyushu is less crowded?
Thanks for your thoughts!