DX de cancer et Inde du Nord
by Brightly
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour,
Mon mari et moi sommes de grands amateurs de voyage, mais depuis 1 1/2 an nous avons mis le tout en veilleuse en raison d'un DX de cancer du poumon pour lui. Il est en forme et bien suivi par les spécialistes. Parfois, traitement chimio et radio chirurgie. Nous aurions l'opportunité de faire partie d'un groupe pour un voyage de 2 semaines en Inde du Nord au début mars 2018. Est-ce qu'il y a des voyageurs parmi la communauté VF qui sont quand même partis en Inde malgré un DX de cancer ? Également les vaccins ils questionnent pour lui ... Nous avons le goût de poursuivre nos projets malgré ce DX. Merci!
Brightly
Bonjour,
Désolée pour votre mari. Je vous réponds sur un point que vous n'abordez pas dans votre question, mais qui a son importance: vérifiez que l'assurance annulation du voyage le couvre au cas où une complication inopinée et imprévisible actuellement l'empêcherait de partir. Certaines assurances excluent les problèmes liés à un diagnostic antérieur à la conclusion du contrat de voyage ou réservation d'avion/hôtel.
Je n'aurai pas le temps...
Bonjour, un de mes amis est parti au Rajasthan il y a quelques mois, avec un cancer du poumon. Il venait de finir une série de séances devant chimiothérapie, et sa pneumologue l'a vivement incité à partir. Tout s'est bien passé.
Naturellement, il faut avoir une assurance correcte ..
bonjour et pas de vaccination obligatoire pour l'Inde qui risquerait de diminuer encore la résistance immunitaire. Effectivement les assurances risquent de ne pas prendre en charge un problème lié à un problème de santé antérieur au voyage. Voir pour prendre une assurance particulière. A priori les voyages, si la personne en a le fort désir, sont un dépaysement tellement fort, surtout pour l'Inde, qu'on oublie un peu ses problèmes ! Le mieux est quand même de demander l'avis du médecin.
Bijoliane
Le but suprême du voyageur est de ne plus savoir ce qu'il contemple ; chaque être, chaque chose est occasion de voyage et de contemplation. Lie-Tseu
bonjour et pas de vaccination obligatoire pour l'Inde qui risquerait de diminuer encore la résistance immunitaire..
Bonsoir, Désolée, mais ceci est une contre vérité scientifique: c'est le fait d'avoir des traitements de chimiothérapie et/ou radiothérapie qui peut diminuer l'immunité. Les vaccins ne diminuent pas l'immunité. Par contre une personne dont l'immunité est faible sera 1. plus vulnérable aux maladies , et est donc plus à risque, et 2. répondra moins bien à une vaccination.
Il est donc important- si cette personne se trouve situation d'immunité diminuée ( ce que nous ne savons pas, car on ne connait pas son traitement, le timing de celui ci par rapport au voyage , les autres affections éventuelles de la personne etc etc) qu'elle discute avec son oncologue de son projet et que ce soit lui et personne d'autre qui décide si des vaccins sont à prévoir ou pas.
Bonsoir, Désolée, mais ceci est une contre vérité scientifique: c'est le fait d'avoir des traitements de chimiothérapie et/ou radiothérapie qui peut diminuer l'immunité. Les vaccins ne diminuent pas l'immunité. Par contre une personne dont l'immunité est faible sera 1. plus vulnérable aux maladies , et est donc plus à risque, et 2. répondra moins bien à une vaccination.
Il est donc important- si cette personne se trouve situation d'immunité diminuée ( ce que nous ne savons pas, car on ne connait pas son traitement, le timing de celui ci par rapport au voyage , les autres affections éventuelles de la personne etc etc) qu'elle discute avec son oncologue de son projet et que ce soit lui et personne d'autre qui décide si des vaccins sont à prévoir ou pas.
Je n'aurai pas le temps...
intéressant à savoir, aussi...
http://initiativecitoyenne.be/article-comment-les-vaccins-endommagent-le-systeme-immunitaire-124987772.html
Bijoliane
Le but suprême du voyageur est de ne plus savoir ce qu'il contemple ; chaque être, chaque chose est occasion de voyage et de contemplation. Lie-Tseu
Salut Nancy, je confirme ce que d'autres t'ont dit, la 1ère chose à faire est d'en parler à son oncologue : lui seul peut évaluer si un voyage de telle durée et sur telle destination est envisageable. Perso j'ai eu un cancer du sein il y a deux ans et le mien m'a autorisé (et même conseillé🙄) à partir un mois au Maroc avant mon opération et la radiothérapie, mais mon cancer, diagnostiqué en juin, était de stade 1 sans gros risques de complications, donc il jugeait pertinent que je me repose l'été pour "être d'attaque" pour le traiter au retour. Bref, chaque situation est différente et doit être analysée comme telle. Concernant l'assurance voyage, effectivement je préconise la prudence en en choississant une qui couvre annulation et/ou rappatriement "y compris en cas de maladie pré-existante" (clause particulière à vérifier). Si les médecins sont ok pour le départ, photocopier une "preuve" de la-dite maladie en la nommant (attestation signée ou autre doc, tu ne seras pas la 1ère à demander, et ca peut servir en cas de besoin), en francais + anglais (bein oui😂). Si traitement par médicaments en cours, ne pas oublier de prendre les ordonnances /cf douanes. Et pour "blinder" le tout, si besoin de renouvellement / complément de traitement, demander à ce que l'ordonnance soit rédigée selon la "nomenclature internationale" (=même médoc/molécule), en anglais et avec la même signature + cachet du médecin prescripteur qui a certifié de la maladie. Et hop, tout ca dans le sac et enregistré avant le départ sur votre boîte mail (donc accessible partout si perte des docs), et à vous le voyage ! 😊😉...pour les vaccins spécial Inde je ne sais pas, perso pour toutes destinations j'ai fait celui de l'hépatite A mais comme tu dis que vous voyagez en groupe j'imagine que les conditions d'hygiène seront correctes. Pour finir, concernant cette fameuse assurance, pourquoi ne pas vous renseigner au consulat le plus proche ? : ils gèrent des tas de questions, y compris d'expats, peut-être pourront-ils vous conseiller ?😉....Bon voyage en tous cas, et mes amitiés à ton mari😚
Ah j'oubliais : ca veut dire quoi "DX"??
Merci beaucoup Laurence pour tes conseils! J'apprécie grandement! Pour DX cela signifie Diagnostic. Un petit raccourci 😊 Comme nous avons appris, la semaine dernière, que le cancer était à nouveau actif, nous avons mis l'Inde en veilleuse. Une proposition de traitement ciblé sera conseillé à mon mari. Nous en saurons plus vendredi matin.
Nous continuons nos projets de voyage, mais nous allons regarder davantage vers le Costa Rica, puisque ce n'est qu'à quelques heures de vol (du Québec). Nous allons en parler à l'oncologie vendredi.
Merci à nouveau pour ton message. 😊 J'espère que toi va bien de ton côté. Nancy 🤗
Brightly
Rebonjour Nancy,
De rien pour les conseils, le forum est là pour ça !😉 Bon, mauvaise nouvelle pour ton mari, je sais qu'il n'y a pas grand chose à dire à part de lui souhaiter bon courage... Votre idée de remettre l'Inde à plus tard me parait sage, c'est tout de même un peu loin et un peu "roots" en cas de problème. Par contre, votre projet d'aller au Costa Rica (pays que je ne connais pas) quand la situation le permettra me semble plus jouable, ce serait un bon compromis🙂. Il parait que le Nicaragua ne soit pas mal non plus, j'ai d'ailleurs vu un reportage alléchant dernièrement😇... Mais comme on dit ici : "chaque chose en son temps", la priorité pour l'instant est bien évidemment la santé... Pour répondre à ta question concernant mon cancer du sein, cela fait 2 ans que j'ai été traitée et pour l'instant les contrôles sont OK, pourvu que ça dure, en tous cas je reste positive... Prenez bien soin de vous, et, soyons fous, je me permets même un "gros bec" à vous deux !😊😉
De rien pour les conseils, le forum est là pour ça !😉 Bon, mauvaise nouvelle pour ton mari, je sais qu'il n'y a pas grand chose à dire à part de lui souhaiter bon courage... Votre idée de remettre l'Inde à plus tard me parait sage, c'est tout de même un peu loin et un peu "roots" en cas de problème. Par contre, votre projet d'aller au Costa Rica (pays que je ne connais pas) quand la situation le permettra me semble plus jouable, ce serait un bon compromis🙂. Il parait que le Nicaragua ne soit pas mal non plus, j'ai d'ailleurs vu un reportage alléchant dernièrement😇... Mais comme on dit ici : "chaque chose en son temps", la priorité pour l'instant est bien évidemment la santé... Pour répondre à ta question concernant mon cancer du sein, cela fait 2 ans que j'ai été traitée et pour l'instant les contrôles sont OK, pourvu que ça dure, en tous cas je reste positive... Prenez bien soin de vous, et, soyons fous, je me permets même un "gros bec" à vous deux !😊😉
Bonjour Laurence,
Désolée pour le délai à répondre. Je suis bien heureuse pour vous que tout soit stable de votre côté. Nous acceptons votre "gros bec" avec grand plaisir et nous vous retournons la même chose. 😊😊 Mon mari a débuté un nouveau traitement à la maison et qui semble fort prometteur. C'est tout nouveau. Nous espérons que son corps réagira bien. Jusqu'à maintenant tout va bien. Son oncologie l'encourage à poursuivre les projets de voyage.
Hier, nous sommes allés prendre des informtions pour le Costa Rica en prévision du mois de février. Naturellement, on oublie l'assurance annulation voyage. Je vais quand même faire encore des recherches, mais je crois que nous devrons prendre le risque lorsque viendra le moment d'acheter les billets.
Bonne journée et au plaisir de vous lire à nouveau! Nancy 🤗
Brightly
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