EasyJet in Nice: Fight Over Refusal to Pay Baggage Fee
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The couple involved refused to pay the extra fee demanded by the flight coordination company. Things quickly escalated. It got so bad that the man ended up physically fighting with an airport agent, even rolling on the ground.

https://www.nicematin.com/faits-divers/il-refuse-de-payer-un-supplement-bagages-le-litige-se-termine-en-bagarre-a-l-aeroport-de-nice-999711

If you can’t afford to pay for your luggage, don’t travel 😡. What’s next? Are they gonna hit the tour guide in Mykonos because the price of the tour went up without warning 🤪?

A heads-up to all EasyJet travelers: baggage checks are more strict than ever!
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AT Attila Globetrotter ·
I think this kind of incident is going to become more common with these unsustainable low-price policies for airlines.

On top of that, it’s getting extremely complicated to compare prices since no one is selling the same basic service beyond the flight itself.

If anyone knows a comparison site that lets you check boxes for cabin baggage, hold baggage, and standard seat reservation, I’d love to hear about it! !
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TA Tatra Globetrotter ·
Hi,

I read your article.

It’s a bit unclear. The "bagarre" (fight), in itself, is a violent altercation, like those that happen in public spaces for all sorts of reasons—and, let’s be honest, often under the influence of stimulants, alcohol, or something else. Nothing specifically related to air travel. After that, the dispute—we don’t really know the details. The couple refused to pay, maybe wrongly, maybe rightly; it’s possible.

The fact that everything is filmed these days and that scenes like this are monetized by media outlets looking for an easy and effective way to attract clicks (and thus revenue) gives us the impression that violent altercations are more frequent. That’s also something to consider.

Michel
TA Tatra Globetrotter ·
Hi Agnès,

I think this kind of incident is going to become more common with this unsustainable low-price policy for airlines.

I actually felt that the era of low introductory prices was a bit behind us, and that everything was clearer now when it comes to passenger information.

Michel
AT Attila Globetrotter ·
Hey Michel,

Not at all.

It’s always a nearly bare price that’s advertised.

The worst are the traditional airlines.

With low-cost carriers, it’s pretty clear to everyone that you’ll have to pay extra for everything (drinks, seats, meals, cabin and hold baggage, even boarding passes...).

But not with the traditional ones.

With some, baggage is included, but not with others. If you’re flying to Africa, baggage is free. If you’re flying to Asia, it’s not (same airline). And so on and so forth.
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EL Elenitsa Veteran ·
People are fighting to pay for extra baggage, but they can afford a vacation in Mykonos at 250 € a night and all the rest? And even if they weren’t staying in Mykonos, in the Cyclades, a night costs at least 90 € minimum.

Another solution: don’t take low-cost airlines but regular ones where prices for baggage are clearly displayed, and you’re treated well.
TA Tatra Globetrotter ·
Hello,

Men don’t fight over money—they fight over matters of pride, honor, and self-respect. We don’t know the exact circumstances, but airport staff are usually trained to avoid reaching that point at all costs. Psychology, tact, knowing how to defuse tension even if it means making a few concessions, etc. There are a lot—*a lot*—of staffing issues in European airports: labor shortages, poorly prepared or trained workers. This is especially true in the summer, when most European airports struggle. Again, we don’t know who’s really at fault here, but the professionals who have to handle the situation are the staff behind the counter, and they should do everything possible to avoid escalating things to that level.

Michel
EA EACitizen Veteran ·
Hello,

I read your article.

It’s a bit unclear. The fight, in itself, is a violent altercation, like those that happen in public spaces for all sorts of reasons—and, let’s be honest, often under the influence of stimulants, alcohol, or something else. Nothing specifically related to air travel. After that, the dispute—we don’t know the details. The couple refused to pay, maybe wrongly, maybe rightly; it’s possible.

The fact that everything is filmed these days and that this kind of scene is monetized by the media, which sees it as an easy and effective way to attract clicks and revenue, gives us the impression that violent altercations are more frequent. That’s also something to consider.

Michel

Other sources: https://www.midilibre.fr/2025/08/30/video-ils-devaient-partir-a-mykonos-avec-un-vol-easyjet-leur-bagage-cabine-est-trop-volumineux-la-situation-degenere-completement-a-laeroport-12901348.php

https://france3-regions.franceinfo.fr/provence-alpes-cote-d-azur/alpes-maritimes/nice/video-ils-refusent-de-payer-le-supplement-bagages-une-bagarre-eclate-a-l-aeroport-de-nice-cote-d-azur-deux-voyageurs-devant-la-justice-3208598.html

It’s hard to see the airport employee as the catalyst for this escalation. On the other hand, bad behavior is definitely more common with low-cost airlines! Like recently, that couple—tipsy—trying to join the mile-high club on EasyJet... https://www.air-journal.fr/2025-08-19-histoires-dete-un-couple-ivre-deasyjet-veut-rejoindre-le-mile-hight-club-et-senferme-dans-les-toilettes-5264820.html

(PS: I’ve got nothing against EZY—I fly with them from time to time 🙂)
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EA EACitizen Veteran ·
People will fight to avoid paying for extra baggage, but they can afford a vacation in Mykonos at 250 € a night and all the rest? Even if they weren’t staying in Mykonos, in the Cyclades, a night costs at least 90 €.

Another solution: don’t fly with low-cost airlines but with regular carriers where baggage prices are clearly displayed, and you’re treated well.

Exactly! The reason for their travel has nothing to do with their frustration—it’s not like they were on an emergency trip. Those islands are stunning, but you’ve got to plan for the budget and all the extras!
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TA Tatra Globetrotter ·
I can hardly see the airport employee becoming the catalyst for this escalation.

I don’t know. But if they’re well trained, they’ll do everything to avoid it. Right now, it’s trendy to jump on these stories that are complacently shared—often on Facebook or in newspaper pages. Maybe the analysis blaming it on the savagery of the people deserves a bit of perspective. And once again, I think seeing this as a money issue misses the point.

Michel
ER Erjome Globetrotter ·
Hello,

Unfortunately, this story reflects our current society. Everyone wants everything as cheap as possible, and at the slightest problem, things escalate. When all you have to do is read everything during booking, pay for the options you want, and follow the rules. But apparently, that’s too complicated for some people.

In a different context, a friend told me he had the misfortune of honking at a car, and the driver got out with a knife. He ran away and lost him.

We’ve reached a point where you can’t say anything without risking upsetting someone and things spiraling out of control. Violence is everywhere, and many professions now put up signs about it to try to protect their staff.

I’m especially thinking of the employee who was just doing their job by following their company’s instructions. Fortunately, they got out of it okay. But what about next time?
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MA Manondugard Regular ·
Whether it's low-cost airlines or not, everything is clear on their websites—you just have to read what you're buying before confirming the purchase (that is, if you know how to read). 🤪 And beyond the money these companies make, flight safety comes first. Good luck explaining to that hysterical woman that her sequined Brazilian swimsuit weighs 3 tons. 😂 If 50 divas with huge suitcases want to compete on the beaches of Mykonos, how’s the plane supposed to take off?? 😂 People only think about themselves and don’t respect others. As someone who only boards a plane at the last minute—because the seats in the departure lounge are way more comfortable than those in the cabin (why board first and wait an hour on the plane before takeoff? Someone explain that to me)—🤪 Of course, someone always takes the overhead bin space above my seat, and I immediately remove the suitcase of the person who goes, "Oh, but ma’am, I had no space left elsewhere." Don’t wanna hear it—deal with it... no way!!! 😏
Christine
MI Mitch341 Regular ·
Whether they're low-cost airlines or not, everything is clear on their websites—you just have to read what you're buying before confirming the purchase (that is, if you know how to read). 🤪 And beyond the money these companies make, flight safety comes first. Try explaining to that hysterical woman that her sequined Brazilian swimsuit weighs 3 tons. 😂 If 50 chicks with huge suitcases want to compete on the beaches of Mykonos, how’s the plane supposed to take off?? 😂 People only think about themselves and don’t respect others. As someone who only boards a plane at the last minute—because airport waiting-area seats are way more comfortable than those in the cabin (why board first and wait an hour on the plane before takeoff? Someone explain that to me)—🤪 Of course, someone always takes the space in the overhead compartment above my seat, and I immediately toss out the suitcase of the person who goes, "Oh, but ma’am, I had no room anywhere else." Don’t wanna hear it—figure it out yourself, seriously!!! 😏

Well, that’s one way to put it...
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TA Tatra Globetrotter ·
Hello,

Get everything as cheap as possible, and at the slightest problem, it escalates.

Do you really want to see this as a money issue? I don’t think so. A lot of people are on edge, but more because they feel cheated, betrayed by promises, tricked by the details. In the pictures, you can see it was a pretty "even" fight, by the way. We also have media that loves to create buzz with images, that no longer has journalists, that doesn’t cover in-depth topics, and that lives off clicks and ads. Is there anywhere with a slightly precise investigation or a clear testimony about what triggered the scene?

Michel
AT Attila Globetrotter ·
what caused the scene?

It's all in the title.
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MU Muriel18 Globetrotter ·
Hello

A lot of people are indeed on edge, but more because they feel cheated, betrayed by promises, tricked by the details

The size and weight limits for carry-on luggage are clearly stated on low-cost airlines' websites. Every time I’ve flown low-cost, I’ve seen people in the boarding line trying to sneak through (knowing full well what they’re doing). Sometimes it works, sometimes there’s a sizer: it fits or it doesn’t, you can’t win every time, and in the latter case, I don’t see why refusing to pay is justified!
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MA Manondugard Regular ·
Whether it's low-cost airlines or not, everything is clear on their websites—you just have to read what you're buying before confirming the purchase (though you still need to know how to read). 🤪 And beyond the money these companies make, flight safety comes first. Try explaining to that hysterical woman that her sequined Brazilian swimsuit weighs 3 tons. 😂 If 50 divas with huge suitcases want to compete on the beaches of Mykonos, how’s the plane supposed to take off? 😂 People only think about themselves and don’t respect others. As someone who only boards a plane at the last minute—because airport waiting-area seats are way more comfortable than those in the cabin (why board first and wait an hour on the plane before takeoff? Someone explain that to me)—🤪 Of course, someone always takes the overhead bin space above my seat, and I immediately remove the suitcase of the person who goes, "Oh, but ma’am, I had no space left elsewhere." Don’t wanna hear it—deal with it! No way!!! 😏

How elegantly these things are said...

A little explanation is in order: 😏 The most active members on the forum are roughly between 50 and 75 years old. I assumed they (or should I say *they*—since it could be women too) were old enough to understand when I’m "playing" the Marseille bimbo because it’s just a bit of fun for me—it’s just to spice up my replies (I can also play the posh lady without any issue). 😏 I also thought that, given the advanced age of the active members, they’d get that only the meaning of my responses matters. 🙄 But if, for them, my sense of humor overshadows the relevance of my points, I feel sorry for them. 😏 Their lives must be pretty dull. As for their intelligence level, I’d rather not comment. 😂 Take care!!!
Christine
TA Tatra Globetrotter ·
Hi,

The dimensions and weight of carry-on luggage allowed in the cabin are clearly stated on low-cost airlines' websites

With different policies, different dimensions, and types of tickets that make comparison impossible, an effort could be made to improve clarity.

Every time I've taken a low-cost flight, I've seen people in the boarding line trying to sneak through (knowing full well what they were doing).

It's hard to tell what's truly low-cost anymore, but in any case, there's always some room for interpretation. In any plane, there's a proportion of bags that aren't really within the rules, and that's just accepted.

The trend is toward more carry-on luggage, with planes better adapted for it.

Michel
TA Tatra Globetrotter ·
It's all in the title.

The phrase can refer to a whole range of situations, and the trigger is probably a word, a tone, an expression... Too much luggage? A planned bag that exceeds the size or weight limits? A difference of opinion over a soft bag, a handle, or wheels?

Michel
AT Attila Globetrotter ·
but in any case, there’s always room for interpretation

There’s a template.

It either fits or it doesn’t.

The best way to constantly have brawls like the one in Nice is to accept small breaches of the contract (your "room for interpretation").

Why him and not me? One centimeter today, why not two tomorrow?

And then low-cost airlines are commercial companies. They’re here to make money. Why would they give gifts to their customers?

The routes they operate have little to no competition. The customer is more or less captive.

I try to avoid them as much as possible, especially Ryanair (not because of the paid baggage), but sometimes I don’t have a choice.

As mentioned several times in this thread, a growing number of people think everything is owed to them and that everything should be almost free. They don’t care that there are employees who need to be paid fairly behind the scenes—it’s all about their own pleasure.

Between those who board drunk, those who bring their own booze, and those who fight to save a few bucks, flying is sometimes a real ordeal.
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MU Muriel18 Globetrotter ·
With different policies, different sizes, and types of tickets that make comparison impossible; an effort for clarity could be made.

That's for sure... but once the ticket is bought, you only get the details that correspond to the reserved flight (which we don’t necessarily check ).

The trend is toward more carry-on luggage, with better-adapted planes.

And I find that really unfortunate because it encourages short stays, even round trips in a single day (apparently that’s very trendy)... And we’re talking about reducing carbon emissions in aviation?
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AT Attila Globetrotter ·
And I think it’s a real shame because it encourages short stays, even day trips (apparently, that’s super trendy now)...

I totally agree with you. 🙂
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TA Tatra Globetrotter ·
That's for sure... but once the ticket is bought, you only get the details that match the booked flight (which we don’t necessarily check ).

Once the ticket is bought, it’s too late.

And I find it really unfortunate because it encourages short stays, even round trips in a single day (apparently that’s very trendy now)... And we’re talking about reducing carbon emissions in aviation?

I don’t see the connection. New planes have larger overhead bins, better suited for more carry-on luggage; everyone benefits, starting with the airlines.

Michel
AT Attila Globetrotter ·
The carbon footprint for a weekend getaway is disastrous. If it were just one weekend, it wouldn’t be an issue, but with those low fares, people end up taking multiple weekend trips like this throughout the year.

All of this just encourages tourists to flock to a handful of places, turning those destinations into nightmares.

They would’ve had to pay me a lot to get me on that Nice-Mykonos flight...🤪
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TA Tatra Globetrotter ·
There are tons of low-cost airlines in Europe that serve regions that wouldn’t have an airport otherwise; the criticism is a bit too easy. When it comes to charter/low-cost mass tourism, it’s a lifestyle, mostly for the urban bourgeoisie, let’s be honest.

But that has nothing to do with this fight, in which, by the way, the blows seem pretty evenly distributed in the video.

Michel
MU Muriel18 Globetrotter ·
Once the ticket is bought, it's too late.

That’s why it’s worth doing your research beforehand, even if it’s a hassle.

I don’t see the connection.

A very low seat price with free cabin baggage but expensive checked baggage encourages very short trips (weekends or day trips), which means more flights over a year. A higher seat price but with free checked baggage (which is increasingly rare) will encourage longer trips, so fewer round trips overall.

Everyone wins, starting with the airlines.

For the airlines, that’s definitely true—otherwise, I guess they wouldn’t adopt this kind of pricing. "Everyone"... well, it depends on your point of view
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TA Tatra Globetrotter ·
A very low seat price with free cabin baggage and expensive checked baggage will encourage very short trips (weekend or day trips) and thus increase the number of flights per year. A higher seat price but with free checked baggage (which is less and less the case) will encourage longer trips, resulting in fewer round trips overall.

I don’t believe for a second that this has that effect.

For airlines, it’s certainly the case, otherwise I suppose they wouldn’t adopt this kind of pricing. "Everyone"... it depends on your point of view

Do you know anyone who finds it advantageous to have to check a bag? Most travelers do everything they can to avoid it, and the airlines themselves don’t want it either.

Michel
ER Erjome Globetrotter ·
Hi Michel,

You really want to make this about money? I don’t think so.

Yet it’s clearly stated in the title, as you can read.

A lot of people are indeed on edge, but more because they feel cheated

To avoid being cheated, you need to read and choose what you want. These are à la carte flights, and it’s actually a fair system. But apparently, it’s complicated for some people. And when you make a mistake, you own it and don’t try to game the system 😉

betrayed by promises, tricked by details

You get what you paid for. And if you forgot something, you can add it after booking. Otherwise, you pay at the airport. But no, it’s easier to try to sneak around, and when that doesn’t work, you throw a fit When you play the game, you’ve got to accept losing.

Ryanair, for example, also cracks down on fraudsters 😉 That’ll cost 2.5 € per unhappy passenger who might get violent with you 😉

Ryanair’s new strategy to penalize certain travelers: « We still have our work cut out to get rid of them » | RTL Info
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TA Tatra Globetrotter ·
It’s clearly stated in the title as you can read.

The title certainly doesn’t accurately reflect the facts.

You get what you paid for. And if you forgot something, you can add it after booking. Otherwise, you pay at the airport. But no, it’s easier to try to sneak by, and when that doesn’t work, you make a scene 😠. When you play the game, you’ve got to accept losing.

You’re assuming things happened that way, but you’re jumping to conclusions. We don’t know the full story. For things to escalate to physical violence, there must’ve been a trigger beyond just the extra fee.

What you’re saying about Ryanair would actually suggest shared responsibility in the altercation.

Michel
DO Dolma Globetrotter ·
How elegantly these things are put...

I agree with Mitch341: with you, whether it's on this post or another, there’s not a shred of humor like you claim—just vulgarity, and nothing else.
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AT Attila Globetrotter ·
There are loads of low-cost airlines in Europe that serve regions which wouldn’t have an airport otherwise; the criticism is a bit too easy.

Low-cost airlines are drawn by three factors:

- subsidies (it’s the community that pays part of the transport cost) - the tourist appeal of the departure or arrival point - migration flows (people originally from point A who work in point B)

If there are lots of Turks in a region, there’ll be a route from that region to Turkey. If there are Portuguese, it’ll be Portugal. If the English have colonised a département...

For tourism, low-cost airlines regularly change their schedules once the pool of potential customers is exhausted.

That’s why a Lyon-X route will be replaced by a Lyon-Y route the following year...
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AT Attila Globetrotter ·
it’s a lifestyle, mostly urban bourgeoisie, let’s admit it.

Well, the bourgeoisie sure has changed...
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ER Erjome Globetrotter ·
You assume things happened that way, but you're extrapolating. We don't know anything about it. To come to blows, there must certainly have been a trigger, on top of the extra fee issue.

You need to stop making up stories—it's you who's extrapolating.

What’s in it for the airport agent? They were probably just doing their job, and not for a huge salary either 😉 Maybe they didn’t handle it tactfully or explain things well, but that should NEVER lead to violence. These passengers apparently (innocent until proven guilty) lost it, and if there are legal consequences, they’ll have to face them.

What you’re saying about Ryanair would rather suggest shared responsibility in the altercation.

They’re just doing their job too. It’s like train inspectors who get insulted and assaulted when a fare-dodger resists. Is that normal to you? Not to me. Only strict penalties and convictions will put an end to this kind of behavior.
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TA Tatra Globetrotter ·
What’s the point of the airport agent? They were surely just doing their job, and on top of that, not for a minister’s salary 😉 Maybe they didn’t handle it well or explain things properly, but it should NEVER come to blows. These passengers apparently (innocent until proven guilty) lost it, and if there are legal consequences, they’ll have to face them.

I don’t know. There are a ton of agents who are poorly trained, incompetent, not cut out for the job, or unqualified. Airports are chaotic in the summer, and the staff shortage is obvious. I’ve seen rude staff—rarely, but it happens.

They were just doing their job too.

No, their job shouldn’t be to set traps or hunt people down, as the link you shared suggests. When you approach customers with that kind of attitude, clashes are inevitable.

It’s like train inspectors who get insulted and assaulted when a fare dodger resists. Is that normal to you? Not to me.

Having dealt with an aggressive, insulting, and obnoxious inspector myself, I know it’s not always black and white.

Not to me. Only severe penalties and convictions will eradicate these kinds of incivilities.

Eradicate them or make them worse.

Michel
AT Attila Globetrotter ·
Newly hired staff are usually friendlier than the regulars. Their attitude hasn’t been soured by customers yet...

There’s no reason to come to blows over a baggage fee.

You either grumble, accept that it happens to everyone, and leave your suitcase behind—or you pay. If you’re still upset on the way back, you can vent on a review site.

I wonder who actually bought the suitcase. Sometimes, the blame (and the punches) land on the guilty partner.

I also wonder if a few pre-flight drinks didn’t play a part in all this.
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ER Erjome Globetrotter ·
Newly hired staff are usually friendlier than the permanent ones. Customers’ attitudes haven’t worn them down yet...

There’s no reason to come to blows over an extra baggage fee.

You either grumble—it happens to everyone—but you leave your suitcase or you pay. If you’re still upset when you get back, you vent on a review site.

I wonder who bought the suitcase. Sometimes, the blame (and the punches) land on the guilty spouse.

I also wonder if a few pre-flight drinks didn’t happen before boarding.

+1
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TA Tatra Globetrotter ·
There’s no reason to come to blows over extra baggage.

I’ve been trying to explain from the start that there must be another reason, even if it’s in the context of a disagreement over baggage.

I also wonder if a few drinks before boarding didn’t play a part.

That’s what I was writing earlier too; but a passenger who’s worked up can be managed—certainly not by letting things escalate to physical violence. Trained staff know the priority is to preserve what’s essential, even if it means compromising.

Michel
MA Manondugard Regular ·
How elegantly these things are said...

I agree with Mitch341: with you, whether it’s this post or another, there’s not a shred of humor as you claim—just vulgarity, and nothing else.

At least we can give you credit for one thing—you cherry-picked my responses to judge me harshly (oh, come on). 😂 Anyway, search my username on the forum, and you’ll see that with people who are decent to me, I use a completely different tone!!!
Christine
CE Cerelinde Veteran ·
Hi Agnes,

I can confirm! This practice is now spreading to traditional airlines too. I recently had this experience on a long-haul flight with Iberia—their lowest fare didn’t include checked baggage. I almost got caught out, simply because I’d never had to think about it with this type of airline before. Luckily, I still read the terms and included services before clicking "buy"! 😅
MA Manondugard Regular ·
Hi Agnès,

I can confirm! This practice is now spreading to traditional airlines. I recently had this experience on a long-haul flight with Iberia—bait pricing with no checked baggage. I almost got caught out, simply because I’d never had to ask myself that question with this type of airline. Luckily, I still read the terms and included services before clicking "buy"!

Hi, "you almost got caught out"?? As if it were some scam you avoided. And in the end, you read the options offered before finalizing the purchase. So it WASN’T an attempted scam. Best regards!!!
Christine
CE Cerelinde Veteran ·
I didn’t say it was a scam—don’t put words in my mouth. Getting caught out, meaning "a moment of inattention and I didn’t get the service I wanted." There, is that better? 😛
MA Manondugard Regular ·
I didn't say it was a scam, don't put words in my mouth. Getting tricked, meaning "a moment of inattention and I didn't get the service I wanted." There, is that better? 😛

So we don't have the same definition of "almost getting tricked." Best regards!!!
Christine
AT Attila Globetrotter ·
Compromise?

But why?

Ending up dealing with all the other passengers because they’d also demand it for free.

Why charge if, when you complain, it becomes free?

Passengers who cause problems from the get-go are often removed to avoid in-flight incidents that could hurt the airline’s profitability.

For alcohol, maybe we’ll end up having to blow into a breathalyzer before boarding...
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AT Attila Globetrotter ·
Hey Annabelle,

Yeah, it’s becoming the norm to pay for checked baggage everywhere now.

I always double-check these days.

Cabin baggage rules can also vary from one airline to another (weight or dimensions).

Paying for seats is becoming the norm too. Sometimes it’s really expensive (emergency exits). There are even paid options for upgraded meals now...

The base price hasn’t really gone up, but it doesn’t include the same things as before...

Shrinkflation!
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TA Tatra Globetrotter ·
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When it comes to the airlines I usually fly with, there are generally three or four "commercial" classes for economy tickets. The lowest, often called Light, Promo, or Super Saver, doesn’t include checked baggage but usually allows one carry-on. Then there’s another category, like Standard or Classic, which includes checked baggage, followed by a third, often modifiable or with lounge access. Normally, it’s pretty clear. That said, you should always buy directly from the airline’s website—otherwise, you won’t know exactly what you’re getting. Sometimes, a business-class ticket can even be cheaper than economy, so it’s always worth checking. There’s one little trick I hate, though—Transavia, I think, offers a "small cabin bag" plus checked baggage for less than a cabin-bag-only ticket. In other words, I never fly Transavia. Plus, I can’t stand their awful seats. For paid seat selection, the best strategy is to skip the fee and be the first to check in online. Just be careful—with some airlines, getting upgraded to business right when online check-in opens can cost the same as buying a seat in the emergency exit row.

Michel
TA Tatra Globetrotter ·
Compromise? But why? Ending up dealing with all the other passengers because they’d also demand freebies.

Compromise because what’s important is that check-in happens, boarding goes smoothly, the plane leaves on time, and it doesn’t miss its slot. The rest is just childishness that shouldn’t distract from what really matters. In situations with the public, you have to compromise—a cop, a teacher, a restaurant server, a hotel receptionist—everyone compromises because it’s a sign of intelligence to avoid conflict, even when you’re in the right.

This kind of problematic passenger is very often removed at the gate to prevent in-flight incidents that would hurt the airline’s profitability.

No. That’s a myth.

Michel
MA Manondugard Regular ·
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When it comes to the airlines I use, there are generally three or four "commercial" classes for economy tickets. The lowest, often called Light, Promo, or Super Saver, doesn’t include checked baggage but usually allows one cabin bag. Then there’s another category, like Standard or Classic, which includes checked baggage, followed by a third, often modifiable or with lounge access. It’s usually pretty clear. That said, make sure to buy directly from the airline’s website—otherwise, you won’t know what you’re actually getting. Sometimes, a business-class ticket can even be cheaper than an economy one, so it’s always worth checking. One little trick I’ve noticed with Transavia, though—they offer a "small cabin bag" plus checked baggage for less than a cabin-bag-only ticket. In other words, I never fly Transavia. Plus, I can’t stand their awful seats. For paid seats, the best solution is not to pay and be the first to check in online. Just be careful—with some airlines, getting upgraded to business right when online check-in opens isn’t more expensive than buying a seat with "emergency exit" access.

Michel

Personally, it’s the opposite for me—I love Transavia’s "green Gini" seats, which I find wider at the hips, meaning under the armrests. As for emergency exit seats, which I’d never pay extra for, I’m "lucky" enough to be 1.78m tall, and the cabin crew—always nice to me—often offers to let me sit there for free, as long as I speak English to help in case of an evacuation (which absolutely won’t happen). But I cheat (yes, milady) 😄
Christine
AT Attila Globetrotter ·
Normally it's pretty clear.

It's clear when you're on the airline's website, where I buy my tickets.

It's on the comparison sites where it's not.

The "cabbages" (tickets with baggage included, usually Qatar, Saudia, Oman, Thai...) and the "carrots" (AF, LH, Iberia, etc.) are compared the same way, even though the services aren't the same.

There's no baggage hold option to choose from.

So you have to go to each site to find out what the real price is based on what you're looking for (ticket only, ticket + baggage, ticket + baggage + seat).

It can happen that a business-class ticket is cheaper than an economy ticket,

Yes, I've already bought a long-haul flight that way. But it's extremely rare for long-haul flights.

For premium economy, it happens quite often during school holidays.

I never fly Transavia.

I avoid them because they're not reliable when it comes to sticking to their schedule.

If the plane isn't full enough, they cancel.

But that's the case with all low-cost airlines.

It's better to know this so you only book refundable options afterward (hotels, car rentals, etc.). Also, plan another trip elsewhere (on paper) just in case, to change your destination at the last minute. I sometimes have several itineraries ready just in case...

For paid seats, the best solution is not to pay and be the first to check in online.

Easy when you're alone. Easy on short/medium-haul flights.

Less obvious on long-haul flights, especially if you want specific seats. The computer system puts you wherever it wants, and the choice is increasingly limited even if you're the first to check in.

It's trickier when traveling in pairs and especially with family. If you really want to sit next to someone, it's safer to book in advance.

With some airlines, getting upgraded to business class right when online check-in opens isn't more expensive than buying a seat in the "emergency exit" row.

Never seen that.

But I mostly take long-haul flights.
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AT Attila Globetrotter ·
In public-facing situations, you have to compromise; a cop, a teacher, a restaurant server, a hotel receptionist—everyone compromises because it’s a sign of intelligence to avoid conflict, even if you’re in the right.

And that’s how everything goes to hell...

Avoiding a small conflict on the day leads to big conflicts later.

Pushing the rope until it snaps.
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ER Erjome Globetrotter ·
In public-facing situations, you have to compromise; a cop, a teacher, a restaurant server, a hotel receptionist—everyone compromises because it’s a sign of intelligence to avoid conflict, even if you’re in the right.

Avoiding conflict doesn’t mean accepting that a customer doesn’t respect the rules. They’re made to be enforced. Zero tolerance. On top of that, you’ll likely get insults, and in the current case, violence. If needed, there are managers, and you can call law enforcement. Result: one person on temporary work leave, and it creates a scheduling problem because they’re probably not being replaced.

No. Legend.

Legend? You’re being sarcastic, I hope?

There are plenty of very complicated situations in airports and on board to fill several pages of a thread. It’s better to detect before boarding those who might disrupt a flight and deny them boarding. Safety first, and troublemakers out. All airlines face this, from low-cost to full-service in business and first class. Unfortunately, it’s become a major issue, and Ryanair, for example, has taken a measure they hope will be a deterrent. Is the person who’s going to issue the fine going to get insulted and beaten up? 😉

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