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Égypte à vélo du Nord au Sud: par le Nil, la mer Rouge ou le désert de l'Ouest?
by Loic285
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Salut à tous
Je me trouve actuellement au Caire. L'idée pour moi, c'est d'allez vers le sud, jusque Aswan pour ensuite allez au Soudan. Je vois sur la carte 3 routes possibles:
-par l'ouest, la route des oasis, qui à l'air chouette mais ça fait un beau détour, et je pense avoir ma dose de désert au Soudan
-par les cotes de la mer rouge, je pense que c'est bien pour plonger, mais j'ai pas envie de m’arrêter dans une des stations balnéaire hors de prix, du coup je vois peu d’intérêt.
- En longeant le Nil et c'était la mon idée première. Ca me semble très urbanisé? difficile à camper? y a t il des cyclo qui peuvent me dire comment c'est?
Je suis preneur de tout retour d’expérience Loic
Je suis preneur de tout retour d’expérience Loic
salut
je suis passé par le centre a vélo mais c'était il y a 30 ans alors heu je ne pense pas que cela puisse fort t'aider
sauf que je suis presque toujours arrivé a dormir au sortir des ville mais je n'avais pas de tente je me roulais avec mon sac de couchage dans une couverture dans un bosquet au sortir des aglomerations
au soudan j'ai pris le train jusque kartoum mais je sais que c'est cyclable si le sable ne te sorts pas par le nez
bonne route
- En longeant le Nil et c'était la mon idée première. Ca me semble très urbanisé? difficile à camper? y a t il des cyclo qui peuvent me dire comment c'est?
comment c'est la moyenne Egypte ?? et bien, c'est simple c'est en principe interdit aux étrangers !!! lol Sachant que depuis plus de 10 ans , les routes de la moyenne égypte sont interdits aux étrangers ou autorisés seulement sous forme de convoi accomapgné militairement ... bref, la police doit t'accompagner dans cette zone ou t'interdire de passer et t'inviter a prendre un autre chemin ( celui des oasis ou celui de la mer rouge !)
NB/ petite détail si tu choisi l'accompagnement , les frais d'accompagnemen de la voiture de police ( essence + nouriture des miliaites) est bien sur a charge du voaygeur qui est donc le payeur !! autant dire que dans ton cas , cela ne semble pas raisonnable !!
au mieux, si tu n'en peut plus du sable des oasis ; ni meme de la route desertique entre les stations balnéaires de la mer rouge ( route d'ailleurs totalement inninteressante, monotone et dangereuse par le mode de conduite local à fond !) il te reste l'option de poser ton vélo et toi meme sur un train entre le sud du caire et assiout et pour zapper cette partie du nil...et reprendre ton chemin a la première gare autorisée aux étrangers ... meme si de fait, je ne pense meme pas qu'on acceptera de te vendre un ticket ailleurs qu'aux gares principales du caire et de guizeh ... et si tu a passé saqqarah, on risque de te renvoyer sur Helwan au sud du caire sur la partie de la route autorisée .en t"invitant a remonter au caire !
a te signaler que si tu descend du train en cours d'étape, tu risque fort de te voir rapidement raccompagné a la gare par les premiers minitaires rencontrés sur ton étape sur la route car nombreux controles et barrages de police décorent cette route tres controlée.
bonne route tout de meme ...
comment c'est la moyenne Egypte ?? et bien, c'est simple c'est en principe interdit aux étrangers !!! lol Sachant que depuis plus de 10 ans , les routes de la moyenne égypte sont interdits aux étrangers ou autorisés seulement sous forme de convoi accomapgné militairement ... bref, la police doit t'accompagner dans cette zone ou t'interdire de passer et t'inviter a prendre un autre chemin ( celui des oasis ou celui de la mer rouge !)
NB/ petite détail si tu choisi l'accompagnement , les frais d'accompagnemen de la voiture de police ( essence + nouriture des miliaites) est bien sur a charge du voaygeur qui est donc le payeur !! autant dire que dans ton cas , cela ne semble pas raisonnable !!
au mieux, si tu n'en peut plus du sable des oasis ; ni meme de la route desertique entre les stations balnéaires de la mer rouge ( route d'ailleurs totalement inninteressante, monotone et dangereuse par le mode de conduite local à fond !) il te reste l'option de poser ton vélo et toi meme sur un train entre le sud du caire et assiout et pour zapper cette partie du nil...et reprendre ton chemin a la première gare autorisée aux étrangers ... meme si de fait, je ne pense meme pas qu'on acceptera de te vendre un ticket ailleurs qu'aux gares principales du caire et de guizeh ... et si tu a passé saqqarah, on risque de te renvoyer sur Helwan au sud du caire sur la partie de la route autorisée .en t"invitant a remonter au caire !
a te signaler que si tu descend du train en cours d'étape, tu risque fort de te voir rapidement raccompagné a la gare par les premiers minitaires rencontrés sur ton étape sur la route car nombreux controles et barrages de police décorent cette route tres controlée.
bonne route tout de meme ...
Katty
eh eh! c'est donc pour ça que tous les cyclos passe par la route des Oasis.
eh ben Katty! je te dis un grand merci! Je prends la route demain matin, et je serais naivement parti vers le Sud sur une des rives du Nil.
J'avais bien lu que c'etait interdit, mais c'était des infos de 2005, je pensais que c'était plus d'actualité.
Bon ben ce sera les oasis alors. je vais retourné acheterquelques paquets de riz supplémentaire :) merci beaucoup
Bon ben ce sera les oasis alors. je vais retourné acheterquelques paquets de riz supplémentaire :) merci beaucoup
Je confirme 10 000 fois, avec le vent dans le dos, la route des oasis !
http://voyage.jeremiebt.com/category/25/
Voici mes notes, en vrac, de la remontée de khartoum jusqu'en egypte.
Pas de banques au Soudan ni au Sud Soudan. Voyager avec des dollars postérieurs a 2006, et changer sur place. Pas de traveller’s cheque.
Dongola Karima = 180 km sans eau ni nourriture sur tarmac La route le long du Nil est meilleure sur la rive est. Il y a du tarmac jusqua Whadhi Halfa, parfois il longe le Nil, mais le plus souvent il est a 5 10 ou 20km de la rive. Il faut absolument prendre les chemins qui longent le Nil, ils permettent de passer par les petits villages Nubiens magnifiquement.
Nourriture trouvables ici: dongola – 60 km - kherma –75 km – delgo – 110 km - abri – halfa Kherma est a 60 km nord de dongola, + 6 km de piste. Kherma, Delog et Abri sont le long du Nile et du goudron. Halfa borne 893 km + 7 km du port – dongola borne 501 Bateau 20 dollars en monnaie locale + 10 dollars taxe et velos.
Absolument prendre les 60 km de piste entre delgo et kherma. A 27 km sud de kherma, il y a la trosieme cataracte. Observez la du haut de la montagne rive est, une des plus belle vue d’afrique ( rien que ca) si possible plantez la tente ici, et appreciez le coucher et lever de soleil. Eau pas de pb entre dongola et Abri
Il faut prendre l super piste le long du Nile entre Karima et Abu Dorm. Pas le goudron/tarmac.
La troisième cataracte est bien mieux cote est, avec une vue magnifique du haut de la petite colline.
Soleb est accessible en bateau depuis l'autre rive du Nil.
Une piste relie Dongola a Sesibi puis Soleb. Repasser ensuite sur le goudron en passant par l Ile de Sai (fort Otoman, tumulus...) accessible en bateau depuis les deux rives. between the second and the third cataracts of the Nile.
Mais la rive Est est apparement plus belle et athentique que la rive ouest. Il existe le long du Nile une piste plus belle que le goudron sur cette rive
Et enfin, a Khartoum, ABSOLUMENT aller a Omdurman le vendredi au cimetiere Ahmad al Nile pour la ceremonie soufi. Exceptionnel! Ne pas rater..
Voici mes notes, en vrac, de la remontée de khartoum jusqu'en egypte.
Pas de banques au Soudan ni au Sud Soudan. Voyager avec des dollars postérieurs a 2006, et changer sur place. Pas de traveller’s cheque.
Dongola Karima = 180 km sans eau ni nourriture sur tarmac La route le long du Nil est meilleure sur la rive est. Il y a du tarmac jusqua Whadhi Halfa, parfois il longe le Nil, mais le plus souvent il est a 5 10 ou 20km de la rive. Il faut absolument prendre les chemins qui longent le Nil, ils permettent de passer par les petits villages Nubiens magnifiquement.
Nourriture trouvables ici: dongola – 60 km - kherma –75 km – delgo – 110 km - abri – halfa Kherma est a 60 km nord de dongola, + 6 km de piste. Kherma, Delog et Abri sont le long du Nile et du goudron. Halfa borne 893 km + 7 km du port – dongola borne 501 Bateau 20 dollars en monnaie locale + 10 dollars taxe et velos.
Absolument prendre les 60 km de piste entre delgo et kherma. A 27 km sud de kherma, il y a la trosieme cataracte. Observez la du haut de la montagne rive est, une des plus belle vue d’afrique ( rien que ca) si possible plantez la tente ici, et appreciez le coucher et lever de soleil. Eau pas de pb entre dongola et Abri
Il faut prendre l super piste le long du Nile entre Karima et Abu Dorm. Pas le goudron/tarmac.
La troisième cataracte est bien mieux cote est, avec une vue magnifique du haut de la petite colline.
Soleb est accessible en bateau depuis l'autre rive du Nil.
Une piste relie Dongola a Sesibi puis Soleb. Repasser ensuite sur le goudron en passant par l Ile de Sai (fort Otoman, tumulus...) accessible en bateau depuis les deux rives. between the second and the third cataracts of the Nile.
Mais la rive Est est apparement plus belle et athentique que la rive ouest. Il existe le long du Nile une piste plus belle que le goudron sur cette rive
Et enfin, a Khartoum, ABSOLUMENT aller a Omdurman le vendredi au cimetiere Ahmad al Nile pour la ceremonie soufi. Exceptionnel! Ne pas rater..
"Il faut pédaler comme on range sa chambre"
ou
"Heureux le pauvre à qui rien ne manque"
Road book en Egypte
Egypte: Infos pratiques – Bilan Si vous venez du sud, il y a un pont a 10 km nord de Aswan et a Itfa. Prenez le pour rejoindre la Rive ouest bien mieux et plus court pour aller a Louxor. La route secondaire entre isna et idfu est superbe, ne pas hésiter a se perdre dans les rues des villages nottament a Sibaya (au sud de louxor rive ouest)
Ensuite, la route des oasis est bien plus intéréssante (meme si elle fait quelques centaines de kilometres en plus) que la route le long du nile blindée de camions, de ville, de pollution…. http://www.cairo360.com/events/ http://www.egyptmusic.org/makan.html http://www.ambafrance-eg.org/L-Institut-Francais-d-Egypte
http://www.cairojazzclub.com/
RB
Musique zar
Dans l'oasis El Kharga il faut absolument visiter la necropole copte de Al -Bagawat. A 3km au nord du centre ville, 1 km au nord de temple Ibis. Tres bien indique depuis la route, a 500m de celle-ci.
A Dahkla, vous pouvez aller dans l'hotel pas cher "El garden hotel" avec ahmed. Un lieu super sympa. Passez lui le bonjour des deux cyclistes francais ;)
Le village medieval de El Kasr, a 35 km Ouest de El Kasr "ville", est magnifique, exactement sur la route de Farafra.
Il existe un trajet bis entre Mout et El Kasr, d'envrion 38 km en passant par de superbes petits villages comme a El Qalamun, El Jolida, El Moushia. La bifurcation se trouve a 10 km au nord de Mout, paralelle ouest.
Il y a a une superbe source d'eau chaude a ne pas rater sur la route, à 3 km nord centre ville de mout, 7 kmavant l' intersection du raccourci ci-dessus.
L'Hotel à el Kasr Mohamed "tourist rest house" est pas cher et tres bien . Passez lui le bonjour des deux cyclistes francais ;)
La seule etape avec des soucis d'eau c'est entre Minkar et Garb, 120 km Sud Est.
Dans le desert blanc, il y a deux spots principaux pres de la route a exactement 16 et 40 km nord de Farafra.
Une tres jolie source d'eau chaude se trouve dans le village El Heiz – demander "Bir el Heiz ein goma". A 50 km au sud baharia. Il y a la un rest camp traditionnel super sympa.
L'unique cafétéria de la region pour s'approvisionner se trouve a 185km nord de baharaiya et une autre plus grosse mais moins conviviale est a 15 km plus Caire)
Policiers super !
Sinon, je vous conseille vivement Saqqara qui est mon site préféré autour du Caire. On peut y passer facilement la journée sans pouvoir en faire le tour complet. Vous y verrez la première pyramide construite en Egypte et les toutes premières constructions en pierres. Vraiment, à ne pas louper.
A Louxor, allez ABSOLUMENT chez des Egyptiens chez qui nous avons séjournés 10 jours, devenus des "amis" du voyage. Ils tiennent un petit restaurant pile en face des "Memenon Statue" a 5 km du centre ville de Louxor, sur la rive ouest ( c'est a dire de l'autre côté du Nile par rapport au centre ville de Louxor) on traverse le Nile en bateau au niveau du "temple de louxor" a nimporte quelle heure du jour ou de la nuit. Une fois sur la rive ouest, remonte plein ouest sur la grande route qui part en direction de la vallée des rois. Tu depasseras a environ 3 km les statues de memnom. Ali, Abdoo et Ashraf tiennent l'unique restaurent pile en face des statues ( regrde sur internet a quoi elles ressembnlent, immanquable)
Pour les piramides : omme le site ferme relativement tôt , je pense qu'en avril , pour le coucher du soleil , c'est perdu ! A votre place , j'irais assez tôt : belle lumière , pas trop de monde . Entrez par le haut , pas par le sphinx ; éloignez-vous des visiteurs et vous aurez de jolies photos : si vous tournez le dos à la 'foule' , vous vous croirez dans le désert . Vous descendrez par après voir le sphinx et aussi le musée de la barque solaire (magnifique) .
The extension visa is easy to get in Luxor - you just go to the office - almost directly opposite the Steigenburger hotel and fill in the forms, leave your passport with a photocopy of your visa page, ID page and a passport phot of yourself, then go back and collect it 3 hours later. And pay around 11 Egyptian pounds I think.
Si vous voulez voir l'intérieur d'une pyramide entrez dans celle de Chéops. Attention il n'y a pas grand chose à voir, mieux vaut les tombeaux de la vallée des rois à Thebes ( Louxor ).
Concernant la route des Oasis toutes les infos km et points d'eau sont sur le site envoye l'autre jour (on ne s'en pas servi pour autant). En gros tu trouves de l'eau tous les 70km et souvent moins sauf une fois 100km avant Abu Minqar dans votre sens.
Pour trouver de l'eau il y a : les checkpoints police, les ambulanciers, les villages, les oasis et dans la derniere partie (dans votre sens) avant le Caire tu longes une ligne de chemin de fer et il y a des petites "gares" avec des citernes. Dernier recours possibles les minibus car il y a quand meme toujours du trafic entre les oasis. Pour notre part on a porte notre consommation de la journee (assez faible car pas trop chaud et en fin d'apres midi un peu plus d'eau pour le bivouac).
Concernant le Desert Blanc, de chaque cote tu as 1 checkpoint police. Faire le plein d'eau. Puis la route passe en bordure du Desert Blanc mais il faut emprunter la piste sur votre droite (panneau Main Entrance) les 5 premiers km se font sur le velo puis tu pousses encore 5 autres km pour arriver jusqu'aux jolis sites.
Pour faire une pause ou deux on vous recommande El Qasr et Bahariya. A El Qasr y a un seul hotel pas trop cher et 2 lodges hyper cher. Se balader dans l'oasis vaut le detour. Attention bon plan : A partir de Mut il y a un "itineraire bis" pour rejoindre El Qasr au milieu des champs, des oasis et des petits villages, splendides. Court, 30km mais vraiment chouette. source mout Inn Dernier point : toute cette region est truffee de sources d'eau chaude, il suffit de demander aux locaux "Hamamat". Il nous est arrive de bivouaquer a cote de ces sources.
Egypte: Infos pratiques – Bilan Si vous venez du sud, il y a un pont a 10 km nord de Aswan et a Itfa. Prenez le pour rejoindre la Rive ouest bien mieux et plus court pour aller a Louxor. La route secondaire entre isna et idfu est superbe, ne pas hésiter a se perdre dans les rues des villages nottament a Sibaya (au sud de louxor rive ouest)
Ensuite, la route des oasis est bien plus intéréssante (meme si elle fait quelques centaines de kilometres en plus) que la route le long du nile blindée de camions, de ville, de pollution…. http://www.cairo360.com/events/ http://www.egyptmusic.org/makan.html http://www.ambafrance-eg.org/L-Institut-Francais-d-Egypte
http://www.cairojazzclub.com/
RB
Musique zar
Dans l'oasis El Kharga il faut absolument visiter la necropole copte de Al -Bagawat. A 3km au nord du centre ville, 1 km au nord de temple Ibis. Tres bien indique depuis la route, a 500m de celle-ci.
A Dahkla, vous pouvez aller dans l'hotel pas cher "El garden hotel" avec ahmed. Un lieu super sympa. Passez lui le bonjour des deux cyclistes francais ;)
Le village medieval de El Kasr, a 35 km Ouest de El Kasr "ville", est magnifique, exactement sur la route de Farafra.
Il existe un trajet bis entre Mout et El Kasr, d'envrion 38 km en passant par de superbes petits villages comme a El Qalamun, El Jolida, El Moushia. La bifurcation se trouve a 10 km au nord de Mout, paralelle ouest.
Il y a a une superbe source d'eau chaude a ne pas rater sur la route, à 3 km nord centre ville de mout, 7 kmavant l' intersection du raccourci ci-dessus.
L'Hotel à el Kasr Mohamed "tourist rest house" est pas cher et tres bien . Passez lui le bonjour des deux cyclistes francais ;)
La seule etape avec des soucis d'eau c'est entre Minkar et Garb, 120 km Sud Est.
Dans le desert blanc, il y a deux spots principaux pres de la route a exactement 16 et 40 km nord de Farafra.
Une tres jolie source d'eau chaude se trouve dans le village El Heiz – demander "Bir el Heiz ein goma". A 50 km au sud baharia. Il y a la un rest camp traditionnel super sympa.
L'unique cafétéria de la region pour s'approvisionner se trouve a 185km nord de baharaiya et une autre plus grosse mais moins conviviale est a 15 km plus Caire)
Policiers super !
Sinon, je vous conseille vivement Saqqara qui est mon site préféré autour du Caire. On peut y passer facilement la journée sans pouvoir en faire le tour complet. Vous y verrez la première pyramide construite en Egypte et les toutes premières constructions en pierres. Vraiment, à ne pas louper.
A Louxor, allez ABSOLUMENT chez des Egyptiens chez qui nous avons séjournés 10 jours, devenus des "amis" du voyage. Ils tiennent un petit restaurant pile en face des "Memenon Statue" a 5 km du centre ville de Louxor, sur la rive ouest ( c'est a dire de l'autre côté du Nile par rapport au centre ville de Louxor) on traverse le Nile en bateau au niveau du "temple de louxor" a nimporte quelle heure du jour ou de la nuit. Une fois sur la rive ouest, remonte plein ouest sur la grande route qui part en direction de la vallée des rois. Tu depasseras a environ 3 km les statues de memnom. Ali, Abdoo et Ashraf tiennent l'unique restaurent pile en face des statues ( regrde sur internet a quoi elles ressembnlent, immanquable)
Pour les piramides : omme le site ferme relativement tôt , je pense qu'en avril , pour le coucher du soleil , c'est perdu ! A votre place , j'irais assez tôt : belle lumière , pas trop de monde . Entrez par le haut , pas par le sphinx ; éloignez-vous des visiteurs et vous aurez de jolies photos : si vous tournez le dos à la 'foule' , vous vous croirez dans le désert . Vous descendrez par après voir le sphinx et aussi le musée de la barque solaire (magnifique) .
The extension visa is easy to get in Luxor - you just go to the office - almost directly opposite the Steigenburger hotel and fill in the forms, leave your passport with a photocopy of your visa page, ID page and a passport phot of yourself, then go back and collect it 3 hours later. And pay around 11 Egyptian pounds I think.
Si vous voulez voir l'intérieur d'une pyramide entrez dans celle de Chéops. Attention il n'y a pas grand chose à voir, mieux vaut les tombeaux de la vallée des rois à Thebes ( Louxor ).
Concernant la route des Oasis toutes les infos km et points d'eau sont sur le site envoye l'autre jour (on ne s'en pas servi pour autant). En gros tu trouves de l'eau tous les 70km et souvent moins sauf une fois 100km avant Abu Minqar dans votre sens.
Pour trouver de l'eau il y a : les checkpoints police, les ambulanciers, les villages, les oasis et dans la derniere partie (dans votre sens) avant le Caire tu longes une ligne de chemin de fer et il y a des petites "gares" avec des citernes. Dernier recours possibles les minibus car il y a quand meme toujours du trafic entre les oasis. Pour notre part on a porte notre consommation de la journee (assez faible car pas trop chaud et en fin d'apres midi un peu plus d'eau pour le bivouac).
Concernant le Desert Blanc, de chaque cote tu as 1 checkpoint police. Faire le plein d'eau. Puis la route passe en bordure du Desert Blanc mais il faut emprunter la piste sur votre droite (panneau Main Entrance) les 5 premiers km se font sur le velo puis tu pousses encore 5 autres km pour arriver jusqu'aux jolis sites.
Pour faire une pause ou deux on vous recommande El Qasr et Bahariya. A El Qasr y a un seul hotel pas trop cher et 2 lodges hyper cher. Se balader dans l'oasis vaut le detour. Attention bon plan : A partir de Mut il y a un "itineraire bis" pour rejoindre El Qasr au milieu des champs, des oasis et des petits villages, splendides. Court, 30km mais vraiment chouette. source mout Inn Dernier point : toute cette region est truffee de sources d'eau chaude, il suffit de demander aux locaux "Hamamat". Il nous est arrive de bivouaquer a cote de ces sources.
"Il faut pédaler comme on range sa chambre"
ou
"Heureux le pauvre à qui rien ne manque"
Je reviens de la route du désert de l'ouest (Le Caire -> Siwa -> Baharaiya en bus et voiture), Baharaiya -> Louxor, en vélo (10 jours du 4/3 zu 13/3). Grâce aux conseils de Jérémie j'ai pu avoir une bonne information préalable sur ce qui m'attendait.
Mais tu peux demander aussi les dernières news ou les regarder sur mon site
Salut Delphine
Finalement je suis passé par la mer rouge. Plus court et je pensais avoir ma dose de désert au Soudan. Comme prévu rien de bien extraordinaire même si la route du Caire jusqu'a la cote est sympa ainsi que celle de Bur safaga à Qena. Pour le reste c'est de longues lignent droites, tantot desert, tantot longeage de resort hotels. Si c'était à refaire, je ferais les Km supplementaire et passerais par la route des oasis.
En espérant que ça servent à d'autres.
l'article de , on blog qui parle de cette partie :
http://loicvelomonde.blogspot.com/2014/02/de-cairo-egypte-aswan-egypte.html
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I'm developing a free and open-source web app for planning walking and cycling trips (and even car trips). You can create a route by clicking directly on the map to add waypoints, and it can consist of multiple stages. The app provides tools to edit the stages and the overall route, and to display useful information (distances, altitudes, and elevation changes). A relief profile can be shown as a graph for a specific stage or the entire route.
Once the route is ready, it can be exported as a GPX file, which can then be used with a GPS or a mobile navigation app.
The app is built in JavaScript and runs entirely in the web browser. It uses the Leaflet library and several OpenStreetMap-based services. Initially developed for my personal needs (I enjoy hiking and cycle touring), I’d be happy to share it with anyone who might find it useful. It’s free to use, doesn’t require an account, and the source code is available.
Source code: https://github.com/patricklmarie/GPX-Route-Planner Online demo: https://patricklmarie.github.io/GPX-Route-Planner/
Once the route is ready, it can be exported as a GPX file, which can then be used with a GPS or a mobile navigation app.
The app is built in JavaScript and runs entirely in the web browser. It uses the Leaflet library and several OpenStreetMap-based services. Initially developed for my personal needs (I enjoy hiking and cycle touring), I’d be happy to share it with anyone who might find it useful. It’s free to use, doesn’t require an account, and the source code is available.
Source code: https://github.com/patricklmarie/GPX-Route-Planner Online demo: https://patricklmarie.github.io/GPX-Route-Planner/
After testing it for three years across various modes of transport, I’m sharing this video of a bike packing case. It’s made from recycled cardboard and shrink-wrapped, with adjustable thickness and added bubble wrap depending on the level of protection you want.
Installing spacers at the fork and chainstays makes the packaging compact. With the fifteen-odd euros for shrink-wrapping at the airport, this case travels really well.
https://youtu.be/_GDJi-GqmkM
- Low bulk (1.10m x 0.70m x 0.25m for a large frame), it fits vertically in train luggage compartments and the total dimensions (x+y+z) don’t exceed 2.40m.
- Two carrying solutions for public transport and easy handling by airport staff (no more tears in the cardboard from openings).
- Discreet packaging when dealing with bus drivers and train conductors, as it looks like an ordinary parcel.
- No need to return to the starting point to retrieve the case from your outbound trip, which you’d otherwise have to store somewhere, or deal with a bulky cover to pack in your panniers.
- You can still check tire pressure through the plastic film without damaging the packaging too much.
Drawbacks: Around 3 hours for this lengthy and meticulous process—removing the wheels, pedals, handlebars, and derailleur without misaligning them, then securing all components to the frame.
If you get a chance to test it, send me your feedback for future improvements.


Can you take an electric bike on trains in Austria, Germany, and Switzerland?
Hi there, I’m planning a cross-Canada bike trip, and I’ve got a question that might seem silly, but could someone tell me how to pack a bike (in a box, with a fragile sticker... I don’t know) for a flight? Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
This summer, we’re planning to cycle along the EV 19 that follows the Meuse River from Langres all the way to Rotterdam. My question is about getting back to Nantes. Do any of you know what the best return option might be? I’d love to hear about your experiences. I saw that FlixBus doesn’t take bikes. By train, I think it’s possible but would involve multiple local trains. We were also wondering if there’s a boat from Rotterdam to Saint-Nazaire that could take passengers with bikes.
Any tips or experiences you can share would be really helpful—thanks in advance! Have a great evening
This summer, we’re planning to cycle along the EV 19 that follows the Meuse River from Langres all the way to Rotterdam. My question is about getting back to Nantes. Do any of you know what the best return option might be? I’d love to hear about your experiences. I saw that FlixBus doesn’t take bikes. By train, I think it’s possible but would involve multiple local trains. We were also wondering if there’s a boat from Rotterdam to Saint-Nazaire that could take passengers with bikes.
Any tips or experiences you can share would be really helpful—thanks in advance! Have a great evening
I’ve gotten used to crossing Europe by bus to return by bike.
It was really convenient to take the bike without having to disassemble it.
But FlixBus no longer accepts bikes...
What alternatives do you know about?
Thanks.
Hi there,
I’m planning to ride the Dutch section of the EuroVelo 19, from Maastricht to Rotterdam.
Since it’s too complicated to bring my bike on the train, I’m looking to rent one locally.
I’d love any tips or bike rental shop recommendations—I’m struggling to find options even in Rotterdam.
The plan is to rent in Rotterdam, take the train to Maastricht with the bike, then cycle back to Rotterdam.
Thanks in advance for any advice or suggestions!
Nath
Hi there,
I’m planning to cycle from Morlaix to Brest (via Roscoff and the V45 coastal route). We’ll start riding on August 16th for 13 days (with stops for island visits, surfing, etc.). Is there a lot of traffic at this time of year? I’ve got two kids, 11 and 13, and we don’t like riding in the middle of cars (we’ve already done the Vélomaritime—Caen to Cherbourg—the Loire route from Orléans to Saumur, the Vélodyssée from Nantes to Royans, and the canals like the Nivernais and Bourgogne, where there were plenty of bike-only lanes, which isn’t the case on this route).
Thanks for your help if you’ve already done this route in late August! Virginie
I’m planning to cycle from Morlaix to Brest (via Roscoff and the V45 coastal route). We’ll start riding on August 16th for 13 days (with stops for island visits, surfing, etc.). Is there a lot of traffic at this time of year? I’ve got two kids, 11 and 13, and we don’t like riding in the middle of cars (we’ve already done the Vélomaritime—Caen to Cherbourg—the Loire route from Orléans to Saumur, the Vélodyssée from Nantes to Royans, and the canals like the Nivernais and Bourgogne, where there were plenty of bike-only lanes, which isn’t the case on this route).
Thanks for your help if you’ve already done this route in late August! Virginie
Coming soon:
https://www.Biclou.com/parcours/durance/
Starting from Faverges: 900 km over 9 days

Here’s the detailed Durance route starting from Briançon

Here’s the detailed Durance route starting from Briançon

Hi there,
I’m planning to build a new touring bike. I want to prioritize lightness. That said, I’m tempted by a suspension fork that could offer some comfort on rougher roads. The recent appearance of gravel suspension forks on the market might meet my needs—at least on paper. I’m particularly considering the RockShox Rudy Ultimate XPLR fork. Unlike MTB forks, its travel is short: either 30 mm or 40 mm. It weighs 1400 g, which is 400/500 g more than a steel fork.
Any thoughts or real-world feedback on this?
I’m also wondering about the durability of magnesium (lower leg) for long-distance bike touring. And what’s the impact of skipping the manufacturer-recommended maintenance every 50 and 200 hours? That’s bound to happen on a long trip unless you carry extra gear. More generally, how reliable are these kinds of forks?
Thanks in advance
I’m planning to build a new touring bike. I want to prioritize lightness. That said, I’m tempted by a suspension fork that could offer some comfort on rougher roads. The recent appearance of gravel suspension forks on the market might meet my needs—at least on paper. I’m particularly considering the RockShox Rudy Ultimate XPLR fork. Unlike MTB forks, its travel is short: either 30 mm or 40 mm. It weighs 1400 g, which is 400/500 g more than a steel fork.
Any thoughts or real-world feedback on this?
I’m also wondering about the durability of magnesium (lower leg) for long-distance bike touring. And what’s the impact of skipping the manufacturer-recommended maintenance every 50 and 200 hours? That’s bound to happen on a long trip unless you carry extra gear. More generally, how reliable are these kinds of forks?
Thanks in advance
Hi there!
I’m making an exception and creating a separate post this time, since it’s all about France. In May, we spent a week in Provence, specifically in the Luberon, exploring the cycling routes *Autour du Luberon à Vélo*, the *Véloroute du Calavon* (part of EuroVelo 8), and the shorter *Les Ocres à Vélo* route. Together, they gave us an amazing journey through rolling hills, vineyards, lavender fields still green in spring, and some of the most stunning landscapes in southern France.

It was, of course, the perched villages that impressed us the most. We visited Gordes, Roussillon, Bonnieux, Lacoste, Lourmarin, Ménerbes, Oppède-le-Vieux, Cucuron, and Lauris. Many of them are among the most beautiful villages in Provence, and it’s hard not to agree with that reputation.




One interesting point is the route of EuroVelo 8 in this part of the region. The official path mainly follows the old railway line of the *Véloroute du Calavon*, which is very comfortable and safe. But in our opinion, cyclists traveling EuroVelo 8 around the Mediterranean would discover even more treasures if the route passed through villages like Bonnieux, Lacoste, or Oppède-le-Vieux.


We were also pleasantly surprised by how safe cycling felt. Most of the route takes small local roads, but traffic is light, drivers are respectful, and road design really takes cyclists into account. It’s one of those places where you can ride peacefully even without separated bike lanes.



Our full story:
Around Luberon by bicycle - the most beautiful villages of Provence
You can also find all our cycling travel stories on the forum:
Cycling Thread - Europe’s most beautiful bike routes
S.
I’m making an exception and creating a separate post this time, since it’s all about France. In May, we spent a week in Provence, specifically in the Luberon, exploring the cycling routes *Autour du Luberon à Vélo*, the *Véloroute du Calavon* (part of EuroVelo 8), and the shorter *Les Ocres à Vélo* route. Together, they gave us an amazing journey through rolling hills, vineyards, lavender fields still green in spring, and some of the most stunning landscapes in southern France.

It was, of course, the perched villages that impressed us the most. We visited Gordes, Roussillon, Bonnieux, Lacoste, Lourmarin, Ménerbes, Oppède-le-Vieux, Cucuron, and Lauris. Many of them are among the most beautiful villages in Provence, and it’s hard not to agree with that reputation.




One interesting point is the route of EuroVelo 8 in this part of the region. The official path mainly follows the old railway line of the *Véloroute du Calavon*, which is very comfortable and safe. But in our opinion, cyclists traveling EuroVelo 8 around the Mediterranean would discover even more treasures if the route passed through villages like Bonnieux, Lacoste, or Oppède-le-Vieux.


We were also pleasantly surprised by how safe cycling felt. Most of the route takes small local roads, but traffic is light, drivers are respectful, and road design really takes cyclists into account. It’s one of those places where you can ride peacefully even without separated bike lanes.



Our full story:
Around Luberon by bicycle - the most beautiful villages of Provence
You can also find all our cycling travel stories on the forum:
Cycling Thread - Europe’s most beautiful bike routes
S.
Hi there, we’re a group of 4 cyclists looking to get from Treviso in Italy to Munich with our 4 non-folding bikes. It seems complicated! Are there any solutions? Thanks so much.
hello fellow cycling enthusiasts
here’s a travel journal of the cycling tour through the Rhône-Alpes Auvergne region by Claudio
zouli
it was the plan
http://cbandiera.free.fr/parcours/auvergne-Ralpes/
the trip was completed story being posted online soon 1100 km in 11 days beautiful and varied regions
claudio

the trip was completed story being posted online soon 1100 km in 11 days beautiful and varied regions
claudio

Hi, I'm looking for a Pino tandem bike for sale in Quebec and I can't find any. Does anyone have any info, please? Thanks a bunch!
Hi there, we’re planning a Munich to Venice bike trip at the end of June 2026. Getting back from Venice to Toulouse by train with 4 bikes isn’t straightforward. What return options have others who’ve done this trip chosen? Any tips or great deals would be much appreciated. Thanks a bunch! !
Hi everyone,
Happy owner of a Pegasus Estremo bike with a Rohloff hub, which is giving me trouble with the SF11-NCX-FT-E-LITE 700C TS 300/0 fork (serial number TD01329060). It’s starting to show its age, and I’d like to repair it to extend the life of my beloved bike.
The suspension is gone, and there’s an oil leak from the seals.
Does anyone know how to repair it? Where can I find parts that are about fifteen years old? Or where to find an identical replacement fork? Just to clarify, the Magura HS11 brakes are mounted using Firm Tech, meaning they’re on pivots behind the fork, facing the frame.
Thanks for your help! Have a great day, Alexandre
The suspension is gone, and there’s an oil leak from the seals.
Does anyone know how to repair it? Where can I find parts that are about fifteen years old? Or where to find an identical replacement fork? Just to clarify, the Magura HS11 brakes are mounted using Firm Tech, meaning they’re on pivots behind the fork, facing the frame.
Thanks for your help! Have a great day, Alexandre
Hi, I'd like to know if anyone has done this route recently or has reliable info.
Does the track exist, and most importantly, is there sand (for biking)?
Any info is welcome.
Cheers,
diego ambilobe: mangaoka, manondro, ramena vohemar sambava: masondrono, tanambao
diego ambilobe: mangaoka, manondro, ramena vohemar sambava: masondrono, tanambao
Hi there,
New to bike touring,
I’d love to start with a section of the Via Rhona to explore and share (route to be decided).
Looking forward to exchanging tips!
hey everyone,
I’m landing in Madagascar with a buddy before the end of April 2026. We’re planning to bike around for about twenty days or so. We don’t have a specific goal other than exploring the country and meeting the locals.
Ideally, we’d prefer a loop route starting from Antananarivo with a good chunk of it along the coast. On the bike side, we’re used to riding 6 to 8 hours a day, depending on the needs, encounters, and mood 😉 Any feedback or tips from trips around this length?
Thanks in advance, Jérôme
I’m landing in Madagascar with a buddy before the end of April 2026. We’re planning to bike around for about twenty days or so. We don’t have a specific goal other than exploring the country and meeting the locals.
Ideally, we’d prefer a loop route starting from Antananarivo with a good chunk of it along the coast. On the bike side, we’re used to riding 6 to 8 hours a day, depending on the needs, encounters, and mood 😉 Any feedback or tips from trips around this length?
Thanks in advance, Jérôme
A big thank you to Lazarou for all the info you share in this forum!
I'm passionate about Morocco, which I cycled through back in 2009.
Last year, my wife and I explored the High Atlas by tandem. Completely smitten, we're heading back in April (Anti Atlas) and May (High and Middle Atlas), still on our tandem.
Do you have any info on the track between Amezri and Ali Ait Nito? Are the river crossings in the Tessaout still there? It's not easy to navigate with a loaded tandem... especially if the river level is high due to this year's heavy snowmelt!
Thanks in advance for any tips you might have, and best wishes for health in this new year!
Thanks in advance for any tips you might have, and best wishes for health in this new year!
A shout-out to a cycling colleague from Savoie
Claudio specializes in the route of the Savoie lakes Here are his travels Between Bornes, Chartreuse, the Savoie foothills, and Dauphiné Five lakes: Léman, Annecy, Paladru, Aiguebelette, Bourget, not to mention a few ponds along the way Plenty of accommodation options: camping, hotels, and more...
A lovely route not far from his place Rural and quite peaceful A road cycling route created by Serge B...
N+1 reconnaissance trips on a loop of about 400 km This way, he avoids the SNCF and its troubles http://cbandiera.free.fr/vv/lacs-savoie/recos.php

The latest reconnaissance trip from April to May 2026 http://cbandiera.free.fr/recits/2026-grenoble-H/index.php

Claudio specializes in the route of the Savoie lakes Here are his travels Between Bornes, Chartreuse, the Savoie foothills, and Dauphiné Five lakes: Léman, Annecy, Paladru, Aiguebelette, Bourget, not to mention a few ponds along the way Plenty of accommodation options: camping, hotels, and more...
A lovely route not far from his place Rural and quite peaceful A road cycling route created by Serge B...
N+1 reconnaissance trips on a loop of about 400 km This way, he avoids the SNCF and its troubles http://cbandiera.free.fr/vv/lacs-savoie/recos.php


The latest reconnaissance trip from April to May 2026 http://cbandiera.free.fr/recits/2026-grenoble-H/index.php

First of all... happy New Year! Wishing you great roads in 2017!
I’ve been traveling for a few years now with a high-quality mountain bike, but it’s equipped with hydraulic disc brakes. I live (pedal) with the constant worry of a breakdown (leak, air bubble, heat causing the fluid to...). My bike mechanic tells me it’s impossible to switch them out for V-brakes.
What do you all think? Am I taking a big risk continuing (alone) with these brakes? Thanks in advance for your great tips!
Hi everyone,
First post here to share a quick recap of our west-to-east bike trip along Algeria’s coast in January 2025. It was just the two of us—my partner and I—with French passports and not a word of Arabic. No friends or welcoming hosts in the country.
Under those conditions, we’d strongly advise against going.
Our original plan was to follow the coast from Algiers to Tunis. We ended up cycling from Algiers to Béjaia, then took the train from Béjaia to Annaba (with a stop in Constantine), and finally biked to the border. We were tailed by police the whole way—whether on our bikes, on the train, or even on foot while exploring towns. On top of that, we couldn’t wild camp and were limited to the few state-approved hotels that accept foreigners. Under those circumstances, connecting with locals was especially tough.
With such an omnipresent and intrusive police presence, we’d definitely recommend against this destination for bike touring. A really sad situation that completely cuts you off from the local population...
We’d been warned, we went to check it out, and we weren’t disappointed!
You’ve been warned.
First post here to share a quick recap of our west-to-east bike trip along Algeria’s coast in January 2025. It was just the two of us—my partner and I—with French passports and not a word of Arabic. No friends or welcoming hosts in the country.
Under those conditions, we’d strongly advise against going.
Our original plan was to follow the coast from Algiers to Tunis. We ended up cycling from Algiers to Béjaia, then took the train from Béjaia to Annaba (with a stop in Constantine), and finally biked to the border. We were tailed by police the whole way—whether on our bikes, on the train, or even on foot while exploring towns. On top of that, we couldn’t wild camp and were limited to the few state-approved hotels that accept foreigners. Under those circumstances, connecting with locals was especially tough.
With such an omnipresent and intrusive police presence, we’d definitely recommend against this destination for bike touring. A really sad situation that completely cuts you off from the local population...
We’d been warned, we went to check it out, and we weren’t disappointed!
You’ve been warned.
Hi there,
I’m planning the route to cycle from Lille to Nordkapp with my partner.
Duration: 3 months, from May 1st to July 31st, 2026.
In the attached details below, I need to add some "non-riding" days (rest days, basically).
So I’m looking to "shorten" the trip by taking ferries or trains for some stretches. Which areas could I skip?
Thanks in advance for your great tips.
Have a good evening.
https://www.komoot.com/fr-fr/collection/4023980/-lille-cap-nord-1er-mai-au-31-juillet-2026?ref=collection
Hi there,
I’m planning to bike back from Poland this summer. Does anyone know a way to ship it there without having to take it apart? Otherwise, it’s a real hassle to fine-tune all the settings before departure! Thanks in advance.
I’m planning to bike back from Poland this summer. Does anyone know a way to ship it there without having to take it apart? Otherwise, it’s a real hassle to fine-tune all the settings before departure! Thanks in advance.
Hi, has anyone recently bought Primus or Butagaz gas, possibly puncture-style, in Dubrovnik or the surrounding area? Same question for Albania... thanks. aichatou
Hi there,
Coming from Laos (*), I’m planning to enter Thailand by bike via the Fourth Thai–Lao Friendship Bridge.
Before this bridge was built, I’d already cycled the road from Louang Namtha to Houei Sai and crossed the river by boat to reach Thailand.
At the time, the condition of that road was impeccable, and most importantly, traffic was light.
So I’m wondering if anyone who’s taken it recently can tell me whether traffic has increased since the bridge opened.
Thanks in advance!
(*) I’m currently cycling in China (Yunnan)
Coming from Laos (*), I’m planning to enter Thailand by bike via the Fourth Thai–Lao Friendship Bridge.
Before this bridge was built, I’d already cycled the road from Louang Namtha to Houei Sai and crossed the river by boat to reach Thailand.
At the time, the condition of that road was impeccable, and most importantly, traffic was light.
So I’m wondering if anyone who’s taken it recently can tell me whether traffic has increased since the bridge opened.
Thanks in advance!
(*) I’m currently cycling in China (Yunnan)
Hi there,
Just a few words about the loop I did by bike in Yunnan.
Entry and exit
I entered China through the Sino-Vietnamese border crossing at Lào Cai / Hekou under the 30-day visa exemption currently available to French nationals and others.
The process was simple and quick. A Chinese police officer even helped me complete my electronic pre-registration at a computer kiosk. I wasn’t aware this formality was required—it’s similar to Thailand’s TM6.
No issues with the bike.
I left the country via the Sino-Laotian border crossing at Mohan / Boten.
The atmosphere was a bit chaotic there, but again, no problems with the bike.
The timing
I visited Yunnan in February 2026.
Weather-wise, at higher altitudes (between 1,500 and 2,000 meters), it was around ten degrees at night and in the mornings, and around twenty degrees at the hottest part of the day.
I had two days of rain, so I took the bus to keep moving. Otherwise, clear blue skies.
Culturally, Chinese New Year fell on February 17th (and the 15 days following), right in the middle of my trip. Because of this, my take on the traffic might be off.
Accommodation and food I always found a hotel to stay in for prices ranging from 8 to 15 €. Except in Kunming (the capital), where many hotels were fully booked (Chinese New Year). I ended up at a 100 € hotel with great value for money.
A bowl of noodles costs about 1.5 € on average.
Onboard electronics Since my smartphone doesn’t support eSIMs, I subscribed to a China plan with my carrier. Otherwise, for much cheaper, Alipay offers eSIMs for foreigners that allow access to services usually blocked for Chinese users (WhatsApp, Facebook, etc.).
An internet connection is essential for paying with Alipay or WeChat, as this payment method is widespread.
I only managed to use Alipay.
Either way, always carry cash because sometimes there’s no signal, or the merchant only accepts WeChat.
Also, it’s best to bring a power adapter when you arrive rather than struggling to find one.
Traffic and roads The Chinese aren’t reckless drivers. They follow traffic rules and watch out for cyclists. This is slightly less true in Xishuangbanna (the region bordering Myanmar and Laos).
In urban areas, there are almost always wide bike lanes, separated from other roads, where bikes, electric mini-scooters, and scooters share the space pretty harmoniously.
The roads are in great condition, and traffic is generally manageable—even light—except for one stretch (Eshan -> Yangwu).
Most traffic is absorbed by expressways, China’s equivalent of highways: toll roads that are off-limits to slow vehicles.
You’re never far from these expressways; sometimes you even ride alongside them, which can be noisy at times.
The climbs are usually reasonable, around 5% to 6%. From what I remember, the steepest section was between Menglun and Mengla, with gradients of 8% to 10%, sometimes more.
Riding at these altitudes—though modest—took a bit of getting used to.
The route I didn’t plan anything in advance. My only goal was to reach Kunming. I don’t know why, but just hearing the name of that city, like Yunnan, always felt dreamy to me.
Here’s the breakdown: Hekou -> Man Hao (94 km); Man Hao -> Yuanyang (64 km); Yuanyang -> Jianshui (bus); Jianshui -> Tong Hai (78 km); Tong Hai -> Chenjiang (85 km); Chenjiang -> Kunming (60 km); Kunming -> Kunyang (60 km); Kunyang -> Eshan (67 km); Eshan -> Yangwu (58 km); Yangwu -> Yuanjiang (59 km); Yuanjiang -> Pu'er (bus); Pu'er -> Dadugang (75 km); Dadugang -> Jinghong (80 km); Jinghong -> Menglun (67 km); Menglun -> Mengyuancun (51 km); Mengyuancun -> Mengla (43 km); Mengla -> Boten (67 km).
Otherwise, I’m currently in Thailand and just hoping my return flight with Qatar won’t get canceled.
Oh well... 😉
Just a few words about the loop I did by bike in Yunnan.
Entry and exit
I entered China through the Sino-Vietnamese border crossing at Lào Cai / Hekou under the 30-day visa exemption currently available to French nationals and others.
The process was simple and quick. A Chinese police officer even helped me complete my electronic pre-registration at a computer kiosk. I wasn’t aware this formality was required—it’s similar to Thailand’s TM6.
No issues with the bike.
I left the country via the Sino-Laotian border crossing at Mohan / Boten.
The atmosphere was a bit chaotic there, but again, no problems with the bike.
The timing
I visited Yunnan in February 2026.
Weather-wise, at higher altitudes (between 1,500 and 2,000 meters), it was around ten degrees at night and in the mornings, and around twenty degrees at the hottest part of the day.
I had two days of rain, so I took the bus to keep moving. Otherwise, clear blue skies.
Culturally, Chinese New Year fell on February 17th (and the 15 days following), right in the middle of my trip. Because of this, my take on the traffic might be off.
Accommodation and food I always found a hotel to stay in for prices ranging from 8 to 15 €. Except in Kunming (the capital), where many hotels were fully booked (Chinese New Year). I ended up at a 100 € hotel with great value for money.
A bowl of noodles costs about 1.5 € on average.
Onboard electronics Since my smartphone doesn’t support eSIMs, I subscribed to a China plan with my carrier. Otherwise, for much cheaper, Alipay offers eSIMs for foreigners that allow access to services usually blocked for Chinese users (WhatsApp, Facebook, etc.).
An internet connection is essential for paying with Alipay or WeChat, as this payment method is widespread.
I only managed to use Alipay.
Either way, always carry cash because sometimes there’s no signal, or the merchant only accepts WeChat.
Also, it’s best to bring a power adapter when you arrive rather than struggling to find one.
Traffic and roads The Chinese aren’t reckless drivers. They follow traffic rules and watch out for cyclists. This is slightly less true in Xishuangbanna (the region bordering Myanmar and Laos).
In urban areas, there are almost always wide bike lanes, separated from other roads, where bikes, electric mini-scooters, and scooters share the space pretty harmoniously.
The roads are in great condition, and traffic is generally manageable—even light—except for one stretch (Eshan -> Yangwu).
Most traffic is absorbed by expressways, China’s equivalent of highways: toll roads that are off-limits to slow vehicles.
You’re never far from these expressways; sometimes you even ride alongside them, which can be noisy at times.
The climbs are usually reasonable, around 5% to 6%. From what I remember, the steepest section was between Menglun and Mengla, with gradients of 8% to 10%, sometimes more.
Riding at these altitudes—though modest—took a bit of getting used to.
The route I didn’t plan anything in advance. My only goal was to reach Kunming. I don’t know why, but just hearing the name of that city, like Yunnan, always felt dreamy to me.
Here’s the breakdown: Hekou -> Man Hao (94 km); Man Hao -> Yuanyang (64 km); Yuanyang -> Jianshui (bus); Jianshui -> Tong Hai (78 km); Tong Hai -> Chenjiang (85 km); Chenjiang -> Kunming (60 km); Kunming -> Kunyang (60 km); Kunyang -> Eshan (67 km); Eshan -> Yangwu (58 km); Yangwu -> Yuanjiang (59 km); Yuanjiang -> Pu'er (bus); Pu'er -> Dadugang (75 km); Dadugang -> Jinghong (80 km); Jinghong -> Menglun (67 km); Menglun -> Mengyuancun (51 km); Mengyuancun -> Mengla (43 km); Mengla -> Boten (67 km).
Otherwise, I’m currently in Thailand and just hoping my return flight with Qatar won’t get canceled.
Oh well... 😉




