Endroits à visiter et surtout ne pas manquer dans l'ouest de la Tunisie?
by Anniefrancis
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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😉Bonjour,
Mon mari et moi partons en Tunisie par bateau, avec notre voiture, le 28 mai prochain.
C'est notre troisième voyage dans ce pays que nous aimons beaucoup.
Nous pensons commencer notre périple de 3 semaines par la visite de l'ouest de la Tunisie.
Nous espérons recevoir de nos amis internautes sur ce forum les meilleurs conseils sur les destinations à ne pas manquer. Nous hésitons sur deux itinéraires : Tunis, tabarka et ensuite descendre sur Bulla Régia, Dougga, El KEF...ou Tunis-El Kef (quel hôtel choisir?)et rayonner sur deux ou trois jours autour de cette ville et visiter Bulla régia, Dougga etc..., c'est à dire laisser de coté la cote Corail et Tabarka.
Ensuite nous descendrons dans le sud que nous connaissons déjà et nous remonterons tranquillement sur Tunis ou le bateau nous attendra le 19 juin.
Merci pour vos conseils et suggestions.
😎Anniefrancis
franie
Bonsoir,
Les ruines romaines: Bulla Ragia, Dougga et Sbeitla sont les plus importantes.
Tabarka, c'est la plage et la mer!!! Le seul dépaysement c'est l'arrière pays, montagneux et forêt de chênes liège.
Dans l'ouest, il y a aussi Tozeur, Chebika, Mides, etc...
Question hotels, je ne saurai vous conseiller. Sur le Kef et sa région, le choix sera très limité. Vous ne risquerez pas de tomber sur un hotel affichant complet, d'une part. D'autre part, le confort des hotels dans cette région sera plutot basique.!!! a mon avis pas besoin de réserver à l'avance.
Slts
Mehdi SELLAMI
bonjour,
je me mêle un peu...sans trop apporter d'essentiel peut être? on verra
Personnellement je pense que vous êtes à la recherche de découvertes culturelles évidentes plus que l'archéologie pour emprunter ciruits de la Tunisie dans cette partie, et dans ce cas, je pense que votre trajet le plus indispensable puisque le plus beau ou le plus riche devrait être TUNIS TABARKA puis continuer ( et non Tunis-Kef).
J'argumente pour vous donner à juger :
A : RESUME : le trajet Tunis le Kef est plus pauvre ( sites archéologiques, culturels, paysages " et autres approches même)en tout par rapport à l'autre, et vous risquez de le faire en une traite sans même rencontrer trop de choses intéressantes ou importantes.
B: DETAILS (ne me suivez pas, je ne suis pas un guide, mais faites ces 9 pas... lol)
1***** Entre Tunis et Tabarka, il y a bcp de choses à voir ou à savoir, bien que ce trajet soit moins long que Tunis-Kef et vous y trouverez, à condition de faire de petites haltes ou crochets des endroits à connaitre ou voir comme Tunis-Ghar melh ( anciennement PORTO FARINA, port et arsenal du 16-17ème, avec paysage de barrière montagneuse abrupte délimitant espace du village de pêcheur),
2 ******d'aiileurs en quittant, il y a bien des points ( villages ou petites villes) de la côte que l'on peut sans trop s'attarder aller y boire café ou acheter quelques produits frais ( poissons, légumes ou fruits) ou artisanaux histoire de bien constater spécificités des tarditions culinaires, paysages, ou productions...
3 ******et en plein dans cet ensemble côtier que vous êtes entrain de parcourir, on trouvera naturellement ce qui est important et inévitable : Utique, et puis on pourrait trouver moyen de là, de s'aménager partiellement circuit pour bifurquer vers Ichkeul si l'on est inétressé par paysage naturel merveilleux (lac montagne faune et flore)....
4 ***** de toutes façons on pouvait de Tunis emprunter un tout autre circuit vers Tabarka par ex, par Tunis Bardo Djedeida( ouTébourba) Mateur.. ., ou Tunis, Borj Amri Bejà...,
5 ******mais si on restait dans celui emprunté, et au au trois quarts du chemin TUNIS-TABARKa, on entre dans un paysage spécifique de la Tunisie du Nord Ouest : de végétation, et de relief et climat dans lequel se situe Tabarka et qui est le plus arrosé en pluie de toute la Tunsie, et celà vaudrait la peine d'y passer pour telle ou telle particularités locales, (comme les mines de fer de la colonisation), des villages ou des sites qui ne sont certes pas spectaculaires mais permettent une connaissance des gens et du pays "profond" ...
6 *****20 km avant Tabarka, il y a un micro climat particulier qui concerne une zone très réduite touchant la côte, et qui mérite la curiosité en quittant route pour aller voir et sentir l'atmosphère" avant d'arriver à Tabarka.
7****** VOUS êtes arrivé? Vous avez mis 3H? ah non Personnellement je mettrais exprès une journée pour profiter de voir ce qui a été décris!!! mais comme vous voulez si vous êtes pressé d'arriver ici à TABRAKA y a tout pour manger dormir, louer, pêcher, parler, photographier acheter, nager, se soigner, réparer ... pas de souci sans oublier écrire vos mails et vous connecter mais comment dire..., le reste, le beau, le vrai ...tout le reste quoi, comment c'est? et là je pourrais vous résumer très succintement, il le faut : Zone Tabarka est le seul endroit de la Tunisie où tant de caractéristiques naturelles ont été réunis ici (al Hamdu lillah!) : la mer ( plage rocheuse avec aiguilles d'un côté et sableuse de l'autre, avec un accès à l'Ile ( devenue presqu'ile par l'aménagement) qui accueille Fort Gênois, rappelant lui, qu'il y a bien longtemps que Tabarka était connue pour son Corail rouge comme la partie jouxtante de l'Algérie d'ailleurs ; Et si vous êtes fumeur, c'est le pays des PIPES ; Et maintenant si l'on tournait le dos à la mer on verrait la ville éternellement petite sur le flanc de la Montagne étaler, ses maisons en tuile rouge, mais audelà c'est le domaine de la Forêt et de la Montagne jsuqu'à Ain Draham, où il ne neige plus, à notre reget à tous, comme avant!, mais toute la Zone peut se consoler d'avoir tous ces atouts, beautés, et même tranquilités réunies exclusivement ici.
8*****Montez donc vers Ain Draham, et en montant retournez vous en surplombant le tout, (magnifique, majestueux de beauté, vous verrez même l'Ile de la Galite, un peu à tribord peut être la sardaigne mais là moins sûr... )et avant de disparaitre dans les lacets de la route montagneuse à l'ombre du chêne liège dominant, chêne vert ou zeen qui est lui unique de toute la Méditerranée chez nous ou notre proche voisin l'algérie... Roulez doucement, Souriez, vous êtes filmé ou flashé, si vous ne savez pas que vous êtes en KHROUMIRIE, comme on dirait, mais pas loin en Algérie, Petite Kabylie eh oui, bcp de choses différentes pour faire une Tunisie .
9******Continuez Après vers vos sites préférés et cités par le Forum avant moi comme Bulla regia et les autres que vous saviez sur cette portion, mais promettez moi que vous allez surtout penser à voir, CHEMTOU, site archéo Important, qui est depuis Romains la source unique du marbre vert et admirez la reconstitution du processus de taille qui en a été réalisé, et ayez une pensée vers ces romains qui le faisaientt transporter par voie d'eau, eh oui, de la Medjerda qui aujourd'hui s'est tari et l'on ne voit plus comment celà pouvait se faire de l'extraction vers le plan d'eau et avec quel radeau ou bateau dans un mileu semi desertique, il pouvait arriver partout en Méditerranée?... si vous trouvez la réponse à votre retour écrivez-la nous ici à votre retour mais en attendant:
Bonne route et avant encore, bon choix de circuit.
Personnellement je pense que vous êtes à la recherche de découvertes culturelles évidentes plus que l'archéologie pour emprunter ciruits de la Tunisie dans cette partie, et dans ce cas, je pense que votre trajet le plus indispensable puisque le plus beau ou le plus riche devrait être TUNIS TABARKA puis continuer ( et non Tunis-Kef).
J'argumente pour vous donner à juger :
A : RESUME : le trajet Tunis le Kef est plus pauvre ( sites archéologiques, culturels, paysages " et autres approches même)en tout par rapport à l'autre, et vous risquez de le faire en une traite sans même rencontrer trop de choses intéressantes ou importantes.
B: DETAILS (ne me suivez pas, je ne suis pas un guide, mais faites ces 9 pas... lol)
1***** Entre Tunis et Tabarka, il y a bcp de choses à voir ou à savoir, bien que ce trajet soit moins long que Tunis-Kef et vous y trouverez, à condition de faire de petites haltes ou crochets des endroits à connaitre ou voir comme Tunis-Ghar melh ( anciennement PORTO FARINA, port et arsenal du 16-17ème, avec paysage de barrière montagneuse abrupte délimitant espace du village de pêcheur),
2 ******d'aiileurs en quittant, il y a bien des points ( villages ou petites villes) de la côte que l'on peut sans trop s'attarder aller y boire café ou acheter quelques produits frais ( poissons, légumes ou fruits) ou artisanaux histoire de bien constater spécificités des tarditions culinaires, paysages, ou productions...
3 ******et en plein dans cet ensemble côtier que vous êtes entrain de parcourir, on trouvera naturellement ce qui est important et inévitable : Utique, et puis on pourrait trouver moyen de là, de s'aménager partiellement circuit pour bifurquer vers Ichkeul si l'on est inétressé par paysage naturel merveilleux (lac montagne faune et flore)....
4 ***** de toutes façons on pouvait de Tunis emprunter un tout autre circuit vers Tabarka par ex, par Tunis Bardo Djedeida( ouTébourba) Mateur.. ., ou Tunis, Borj Amri Bejà...,
5 ******mais si on restait dans celui emprunté, et au au trois quarts du chemin TUNIS-TABARKa, on entre dans un paysage spécifique de la Tunisie du Nord Ouest : de végétation, et de relief et climat dans lequel se situe Tabarka et qui est le plus arrosé en pluie de toute la Tunsie, et celà vaudrait la peine d'y passer pour telle ou telle particularités locales, (comme les mines de fer de la colonisation), des villages ou des sites qui ne sont certes pas spectaculaires mais permettent une connaissance des gens et du pays "profond" ...
6 *****20 km avant Tabarka, il y a un micro climat particulier qui concerne une zone très réduite touchant la côte, et qui mérite la curiosité en quittant route pour aller voir et sentir l'atmosphère" avant d'arriver à Tabarka.
7****** VOUS êtes arrivé? Vous avez mis 3H? ah non Personnellement je mettrais exprès une journée pour profiter de voir ce qui a été décris!!! mais comme vous voulez si vous êtes pressé d'arriver ici à TABRAKA y a tout pour manger dormir, louer, pêcher, parler, photographier acheter, nager, se soigner, réparer ... pas de souci sans oublier écrire vos mails et vous connecter mais comment dire..., le reste, le beau, le vrai ...tout le reste quoi, comment c'est? et là je pourrais vous résumer très succintement, il le faut : Zone Tabarka est le seul endroit de la Tunisie où tant de caractéristiques naturelles ont été réunis ici (al Hamdu lillah!) : la mer ( plage rocheuse avec aiguilles d'un côté et sableuse de l'autre, avec un accès à l'Ile ( devenue presqu'ile par l'aménagement) qui accueille Fort Gênois, rappelant lui, qu'il y a bien longtemps que Tabarka était connue pour son Corail rouge comme la partie jouxtante de l'Algérie d'ailleurs ; Et si vous êtes fumeur, c'est le pays des PIPES ; Et maintenant si l'on tournait le dos à la mer on verrait la ville éternellement petite sur le flanc de la Montagne étaler, ses maisons en tuile rouge, mais audelà c'est le domaine de la Forêt et de la Montagne jsuqu'à Ain Draham, où il ne neige plus, à notre reget à tous, comme avant!, mais toute la Zone peut se consoler d'avoir tous ces atouts, beautés, et même tranquilités réunies exclusivement ici.
8*****Montez donc vers Ain Draham, et en montant retournez vous en surplombant le tout, (magnifique, majestueux de beauté, vous verrez même l'Ile de la Galite, un peu à tribord peut être la sardaigne mais là moins sûr... )et avant de disparaitre dans les lacets de la route montagneuse à l'ombre du chêne liège dominant, chêne vert ou zeen qui est lui unique de toute la Méditerranée chez nous ou notre proche voisin l'algérie... Roulez doucement, Souriez, vous êtes filmé ou flashé, si vous ne savez pas que vous êtes en KHROUMIRIE, comme on dirait, mais pas loin en Algérie, Petite Kabylie eh oui, bcp de choses différentes pour faire une Tunisie .
9******Continuez Après vers vos sites préférés et cités par le Forum avant moi comme Bulla regia et les autres que vous saviez sur cette portion, mais promettez moi que vous allez surtout penser à voir, CHEMTOU, site archéo Important, qui est depuis Romains la source unique du marbre vert et admirez la reconstitution du processus de taille qui en a été réalisé, et ayez une pensée vers ces romains qui le faisaientt transporter par voie d'eau, eh oui, de la Medjerda qui aujourd'hui s'est tari et l'on ne voit plus comment celà pouvait se faire de l'extraction vers le plan d'eau et avec quel radeau ou bateau dans un mileu semi desertique, il pouvait arriver partout en Méditerranée?... si vous trouvez la réponse à votre retour écrivez-la nous ici à votre retour mais en attendant:
Bonne route et avant encore, bon choix de circuit.
🙂Merci beaucoup pour votre réponse. Ce que vous dites ne nous surprend pas et nous vous écouterons.
Nous ne connaissons pas encore cette zone de la Tunisie et je pensais bien qu'elle avait beaucoup d'attrait.
Notre voyage va durer 3 semaines et nous pourrons prendre le temps de visiter ces endroits que vous nous conseillez. Nous allons en Tunisie pour voir des paysage, certes, mais aussi pour côtoyer les habitants, c'est aussi pourquoi nous ne choisissons pas de circuit organisé.
Merci encore.
Anniefrancis😎
franie
effectivement, quelle mine d'infos !, Merci.
Je suis une habituée du sud tunisien depuis près de 10 ans, ai séjourné, avant cette période, une quinzaine de fois au Nord et au centre mais sur la côte (sauf Tunis qui n'est pas balnéaire))
Je ne connais pas encore la région que vous décrivez et pensais y aller un de ces jours et ai reporté plusieurs fois mon projet, mais votre message me donne l'envie de me décider plus rapidement
J'imprime votre "guide" pour m'en servir dès que j'aurai l'occasion de filer vers l'ouest
Merci encore et bonne journée
Je suis une habituée du sud tunisien depuis près de 10 ans, ai séjourné, avant cette période, une quinzaine de fois au Nord et au centre mais sur la côte (sauf Tunis qui n'est pas balnéaire))
Je ne connais pas encore la région que vous décrivez et pensais y aller un de ces jours et ai reporté plusieurs fois mon projet, mais votre message me donne l'envie de me décider plus rapidement
J'imprime votre "guide" pour m'en servir dès que j'aurai l'occasion de filer vers l'ouest
Merci encore et bonne journée
merci, c'est gentil, mais plaisir pour moi d'être utile...
Mais attention svp : vous dites "J'imprime votre "guide" pour m'en servir" NON SVP, ce n'est pas un guide du tout car j'ai rédigé celà, en réponse à quelqu'un, sans carte ni distances, ni recencements exhaustifs, donc de mémoire forcément incomplète, d'ailleurs ce n'est pas le but ni esprit, car comme VOUS L'AVEZ DIT : juste pour donner envie d'y aller.....Vous risquez sinon de vous tromper MAIS EN AUCUNE FACON UN GUIDE car vous devez vous même préparez votre voyage par une carte au moins et tracer votre circuit et complétez ce qui ne figure pas... REGARDEZ AUTRES CONSEILS PRECIS Dans mon post d'aujourd'hui 8 04 08 "CIRCUIT TUNIS-TABARKA-AIN DRAHAM" qui n'est que ce que vous avez lu de moi ici de ma réponse à la question posée par deux futurs voyageurs en mai je crois, et que j'ai tranformée en sujet à part pour ^tre utile à bcp et le rendre donc plus visible dans le forum, avec une bonne introduction en plus. En Résumé utilisez carte (50.000ème)au moins, avant voyage et débarquement, et surtout, ne jamais compter sur renseignements sur place, no oraux, tout simplement car ce n'est pas un circuit de tourisme habituel balisé comme ailleurs. Merci de votre gentillesse. Millenuits.
Mais attention svp : vous dites "J'imprime votre "guide" pour m'en servir" NON SVP, ce n'est pas un guide du tout car j'ai rédigé celà, en réponse à quelqu'un, sans carte ni distances, ni recencements exhaustifs, donc de mémoire forcément incomplète, d'ailleurs ce n'est pas le but ni esprit, car comme VOUS L'AVEZ DIT : juste pour donner envie d'y aller.....Vous risquez sinon de vous tromper MAIS EN AUCUNE FACON UN GUIDE car vous devez vous même préparez votre voyage par une carte au moins et tracer votre circuit et complétez ce qui ne figure pas... REGARDEZ AUTRES CONSEILS PRECIS Dans mon post d'aujourd'hui 8 04 08 "CIRCUIT TUNIS-TABARKA-AIN DRAHAM" qui n'est que ce que vous avez lu de moi ici de ma réponse à la question posée par deux futurs voyageurs en mai je crois, et que j'ai tranformée en sujet à part pour ^tre utile à bcp et le rendre donc plus visible dans le forum, avec une bonne introduction en plus. En Résumé utilisez carte (50.000ème)au moins, avant voyage et débarquement, et surtout, ne jamais compter sur renseignements sur place, no oraux, tout simplement car ce n'est pas un circuit de tourisme habituel balisé comme ailleurs. Merci de votre gentillesse. Millenuits.
Bonjour,
on a réellement envie de te rejoindre dans ce périple paradisiaque !!! on sent un amour fou de ce magnifique pays et de ton envie de le faire partager !!! Merci à toi !
amicalement
Pierre
Un Français passionnément amoureux de la Tunisie et qui n'a qu'un souhait : faire partager cette passion à tous ceux qui souhaitent s'expatrier !
Si votre périple vous amène à Douz, vous pouvez être hébergés chez l'habitant.c'est un couple franco-tunisien, l'ambiance est chaleureuse, confort, bonne cuisine, joli jardin avec une petite piscine. regardez un blog qui s'appelle randomadaire.canalblog.com
c'est une bonne idée de halte, le souk à Douz est le jeudi
"ici, c'est autre chose que loin, c'est ailleurs" J Giono
Une autre façon de vivre.........la liberté, dans le désert
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I’m planning to take the SETE-TANGER ferry with my car.
No agency in my town sells tickets.
Has anyone done this before and can point me in the right direction?
Thanks in advance.
have a good day
Good evening, everyone!
I’m reaching out to gather your thoughts on an itinerary (10 days... or more?) I’d like to do at the beginning of June 🙂.
Just so you know, I’m planning to do this trip solo (25 years old), using only public transport and just a backpack. I’ve already been to Marrakech and climbed Mount Toubkal two years ago...
I’ll be arriving in Tangier. Day 1-2: Explore the city center, hike around Cap Spartel... Day 3: Stop in Tetouan Day 4-5-6: Chefchaouen and a day hike in the Rif Mountains Day 6-7: Discover the city of Fes (I’ve heard so many great things!!) Day 8: Stop in Meknes and possibly visit the historic site of Volubilis Day 9-10: Rabat (I’ve heard mixed things... some good, some bad) After that, I have the choice of heading back to Tangier for my return flight... or going down to Agadir (also a possible return flight) and extending my trip by 5 days :)
From what I can tell, everything is well connected by bus (CTM) or train (ONCF). Another question: Is the vibe in Moroccan youth hostels for meeting people the same as what you’d find in Western Europe?
Thanks in advance for your replies and your kindness! 😊
I’m reaching out to gather your thoughts on an itinerary (10 days... or more?) I’d like to do at the beginning of June 🙂.
Just so you know, I’m planning to do this trip solo (25 years old), using only public transport and just a backpack. I’ve already been to Marrakech and climbed Mount Toubkal two years ago...
I’ll be arriving in Tangier. Day 1-2: Explore the city center, hike around Cap Spartel... Day 3: Stop in Tetouan Day 4-5-6: Chefchaouen and a day hike in the Rif Mountains Day 6-7: Discover the city of Fes (I’ve heard so many great things!!) Day 8: Stop in Meknes and possibly visit the historic site of Volubilis Day 9-10: Rabat (I’ve heard mixed things... some good, some bad) After that, I have the choice of heading back to Tangier for my return flight... or going down to Agadir (also a possible return flight) and extending my trip by 5 days :)
From what I can tell, everything is well connected by bus (CTM) or train (ONCF). Another question: Is the vibe in Moroccan youth hostels for meeting people the same as what you’d find in Western Europe?
Thanks in advance for your replies and your kindness! 😊
Tickets for entry to Majorelle Garden are only issued online via an official site
(though there are fraudulent sites out there). On the official site, they ask for legitimate info
(name, nationality, etc.). What made me go "hmm" was the request for both an email address
AND a password (with confirmation). Is this normal?
Thanks for your replies.
Hi there, a group of girlfriends and I are heading to Tunisia. We’d love to know how much cash we should bring for 6 days, considering everything’s already paid for at the hotel. Thanks for your tips!
Hi everyone! :)
I’m finalizing the loop I’d like to do in May over 13 days, starting and ending in Essaouira.
We’re planning to rent a vehicle and are pretty active—we’re not really into crowds (that’s why I’ve decided to skip Marrakech).
Here’s my proposed itinerary:
Trip Proposal Summary: From May 13 (morning arrival) to May 26 (morning departure) Arrival and departure: Essaouira Day 1 (May 13): Arrival in Essaouira – Settling in / Exploring / Rest Day 2 (May 14): Essaouira – Water activities Day 3 (May 15): Essaouira to Tafraoute (~5h30) – route via Agadir – arrival and first exploration; Question: Is a detour to Taroudant worth considering? Day 4 (May 16): Tafraoute – Hike in the granite rocks – wild bivouac Day 5 (May 17): Tafraoute – Aït Mansour gorges – oasis – night in a hostel Day 6 (May 18): Tafraoute → Foum Zguid (~5h) – transition route – simple overnight or bivouac Day 7 (May 19): Foum Zguid → Zagora (~3h) – Draa Valley – desert prep Day 8 (May 20): Zagora → M'Hamid El Ghizlane → Erg Chigaga – departure with 4x4 guide – entering the dunes – bivouac Day 9 (May 21): Erg Chigaga – full desert day – walking, exploring – bivouac Day 10 (May 22): Desert → Ouarzazate (~5–6h) – leaving the desert – rest Day 11 (May 23): Aït Benhaddou – early visit – short hike – overnight stay Day 12 (May 24): Aït Benhaddou → Telouet – route toward the Atlas – start of trek – bivouac Day 13 (May 25): Atlas → Essaouira (~5–6h) – end of trek – return to Essaouira (overnight) Day 14 (May 26): Essaouira – free time + return flight
What do you think?
I aimed for an excursion to the Chigaga desert from M’Hamid because it seems less touristy and allows for a more compact loop. Is that a good idea? Is the drive to M’Hamid maybe too tedious?
Open to your great tips if there’s room for optimization!
All ears! :)
Thanks in advance and have a great day!
Clément
I’m finalizing the loop I’d like to do in May over 13 days, starting and ending in Essaouira.
We’re planning to rent a vehicle and are pretty active—we’re not really into crowds (that’s why I’ve decided to skip Marrakech).
Here’s my proposed itinerary:
Trip Proposal Summary: From May 13 (morning arrival) to May 26 (morning departure) Arrival and departure: Essaouira Day 1 (May 13): Arrival in Essaouira – Settling in / Exploring / Rest Day 2 (May 14): Essaouira – Water activities Day 3 (May 15): Essaouira to Tafraoute (~5h30) – route via Agadir – arrival and first exploration; Question: Is a detour to Taroudant worth considering? Day 4 (May 16): Tafraoute – Hike in the granite rocks – wild bivouac Day 5 (May 17): Tafraoute – Aït Mansour gorges – oasis – night in a hostel Day 6 (May 18): Tafraoute → Foum Zguid (~5h) – transition route – simple overnight or bivouac Day 7 (May 19): Foum Zguid → Zagora (~3h) – Draa Valley – desert prep Day 8 (May 20): Zagora → M'Hamid El Ghizlane → Erg Chigaga – departure with 4x4 guide – entering the dunes – bivouac Day 9 (May 21): Erg Chigaga – full desert day – walking, exploring – bivouac Day 10 (May 22): Desert → Ouarzazate (~5–6h) – leaving the desert – rest Day 11 (May 23): Aït Benhaddou – early visit – short hike – overnight stay Day 12 (May 24): Aït Benhaddou → Telouet – route toward the Atlas – start of trek – bivouac Day 13 (May 25): Atlas → Essaouira (~5–6h) – end of trek – return to Essaouira (overnight) Day 14 (May 26): Essaouira – free time + return flight
What do you think?
I aimed for an excursion to the Chigaga desert from M’Hamid because it seems less touristy and allows for a more compact loop. Is that a good idea? Is the drive to M’Hamid maybe too tedious?
Open to your great tips if there’s room for optimization!
All ears! :)
Thanks in advance and have a great day!
Clément
A lot of people find it important to stick to their budget when traveling—not to skimp, but to visit as many places as possible since traveling is their hobby.
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
Hi everyone! 😊
We’re traveling as a family to Marrakech from April 19 to 24, and there’ll be 15 of us (all ages), staying in the Targa neighborhood (El Idrissi Street).
I’d love your advice on a few things! 🙏
🚗 Vehicle rental
We’re thinking of renting 3 cars. We’ve seen really low prices online, but often without insurance.
👉 Do you have any reliable contacts or personal experiences to share?
👉 Would you recommend getting specific “tourist” insurance?
🏛️ Visits – Bahia Palace & Saadian Tombs
We’d like to visit the Bahia Palace and the Saadian Tombs, but:
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
As-salamu alaykum!
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
Mid-May: arriving alone (so, a "petit taxi"?) at Marrakech airport around 4:30 PM,
is it advisable to take a taxi at the airport (cost?) or is it wiser to book one through the hotel before departure (which would cost me 20 €)?
I think I’ve seen lower fares elsewhere (12 €?).
Destination: Riad Sijane near Djemaa El Fna square. Thanks!
hi there
we’re heading to Hammamet in a few months
what would you recommend visiting for a week?
best regards
Hi there,
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
Hi there,
We’re planning a trip to Morocco in September-October in our Fiat camper van, which isn’t a 4x4 but has already handled quite a bit of rough travel. While reading up on southern Morocco, we’ve been drawn to the Aguinane oasis but I’m having trouble locating it on the map. Is it possible to get there without a 4x4?
Thanks for your help
Hi,
Does anyone know the address of a rose flower distillery in the Valley of Roses / Kelaa M'Gouna? A traditional distillery, not just the tourist shop.
Thanks a bunch!
Nicolas :-)
Does anyone know the address of a rose flower distillery in the Valley of Roses / Kelaa M'Gouna? A traditional distillery, not just the tourist shop.
Thanks a bunch!
Nicolas :-)
Hi there,
Can anyone tell me if it's possible to travel from the Dades Gorges (Msemrir) to the Todra Gorges (Tamtatouche) on a paved road? Thanks in advance for any answers.
Hello,
We’d like to hire a French-speaking guide (agency, professional, or volunteer) to show us around Cairo over three days.
Trip planned for November 22, 23, and 24, 2026—four veteran French travelers.
We’re open to any leads, contact info, or suggestions.
Best regards,
Jacques
Hi there,
I have a layover in Algeria.
I won’t be leaving the airport.
The two tickets aren’t with the same airline.
Do I need a transit visa?
Thanks for any details and your help!
Hi there,
I live in Casablanca and my parents, who are 80, will be joining me in Marrakech at the beginning of May for a few days.
We’ll be renting a car to get around.
Do you have any suggestions for things to see or visit within a 2-3 hour drive max from Marrakech that aren’t too touristy?
My parents can walk a bit, but at 80, no climbing Mount Toubkal!
Thanks so much in advance for your ideas!
Hi everyone, just back from the 8-day Marrakech-Merzouga loop by car, and I’d love to share my feedback in case it helps some of you. Big thanks to all the forum members who kindly answered my questions!
Trip from Friday the 20th to Saturday the 28th, flying out of Marseille with Ryanair
- Landed late around 8 PM local time, exchanged some currency, and the rental agency (Magdaz Car, which I highly recommend) delivered the car straight to the airport with some great route tips (don’t blindly trust Maps.me). The night drive was a bit intense—lots of people out and about due to Ramadan. Stayed at Riad Midhou (really nice) on the outskirts of the city, which made it easy to hit the road the next morning.
- Day 1: Marrakech to Skoura. The drive was smooth, roads are great, but watch out for roundabout priority—it’s different from France. Beautiful route. Quick stop in Ouarzazate for lunch, Ait Benhaddou for the view (stunning), and the Fint Oasis (meh...). Spent the night at Taloute Ecolodge in Skoura, overlooking the palm grove (super cozy).
- Day 2: Skoura to Todgha Gorges via the Valley of Roses and Dades Gorges. Adventure-packed day! We crossed the Valley of Roses (pretty, but not as amazing as I’d hoped) and took a "shortcut" recommended by the *Routard* guide to reach the Dades Gorges without backtracking. After asking locals, they said, "It’s doable." Turns out it was a narrow, rocky cliffside track—no way to turn around! A stressful moment, with a nice scratch on the bumper and a good sweat. Fine in an SUV or 4x4, but not in a Logan... Then the Dades Gorges (nice) and a detour through the north to reach Todgha from above. Gorgeous mountain road and a quick stop on some snow patches—touching African snow! Spent the night at *Les Gorges de Todgha*—great place, except for the bathroom. The Todgha Gorges themselves are stunning!
Day 3: Todgha to Merzouga. Beautiful drive, and the view of the erg (sand dunes) on arrival is breathtaking! Totally worth the trip. Explored the desert and stayed at *Café du Sud* hotel just outside Merzouga—absolutely gorgeous.
Day 4: Merzouga. Desert exploration and chilling by the hotel pool (with a bonus sunburn). Lunch in Merzouga—I recommend *Dakar*—their lemon tajine was amazing. Spent the night in the hotel’s luxury camp, including a camel ride. The camp was beautiful, but I was disappointed we weren’t deeper in the desert given the price (100 € per person, including dinner, breakfast, and camel ride).
Day 5: Merzouga to Tamnougalt. Gorgeous route. First fine (a supposed stop sign...) but the officer was super nice—only 150 MAD. Stayed at *Kasbah Maktob*, right in the middle of ruins—really unique and beautiful!
Day 6: Tamnougalt to Marrakech. Another beautiful drive, and a second fine (minor speeding), same amount. Crossed a windy mountain pass during a big storm—traffic was blocked in the opposite direction (not sure why), causing massive jams for those coming from Marrakech. A few downed cables, but nothing serious. Arriving in Marrakech was tricky—hard to find the rental agency, and the traffic was intense (watch out for GPS trying to send you through the medina). Ask the rental company to meet you somewhere quiet. They didn’t even notice the damaged bumper... Stayed at *Riad Zifamo* in the heart of the medina. Big change of pace—so many people and so much hustle!
Day 7: Marrakech. Lots of wandering through the souk and a quick trip to Gueliz (not essential). A few tips for the medina: watch out for scooters weaving too fast, always negotiate prices (aim for at least 1/3 off what they ask, unless it’s a small amount), don’t buy spices—more expensive than in France! Head to the *Carrefour Market* in Gueliz for better prices. In the end, not many truly unique items—you’ll find more or less the same things everywhere.
Day 8: Early morning flight. We’d booked a car to the airport from the riad, but a taxi would’ve been fine—plenty available even at 7 AM. Security wasn’t an issue (we had lighters and liquids over 100 ml).
A few extra notes: Pleasantly surprised by the road quality—just a few potholes here and there, but overall very drivable. Watch out for the police—they’re everywhere! The car cost me 30 € per day (with the *Routard* discount) and about 90 € in gas. No safety concerns, no harassment, and no stomach issues, despite the ice in Marrakech. Breakfasts at the hotels were usually hearty—take advantage! The timing (end of February) was perfect—pleasant daytime temps and cool nights. Since it was Ramadan, nothing unusual to report, except it was hard to find food outside Marrakech at lunchtime. If I did it again, Merzouga is a must, but I’d spend a night in a real desert bivouac, deeper in the dunes. My stops (no more than 300 km a day) were well-paced, and with so few cars on the road, it wasn’t tiring—even though I’m not usually a fan of driving... Happy to answer any questions!
Trip from Friday the 20th to Saturday the 28th, flying out of Marseille with Ryanair
- Landed late around 8 PM local time, exchanged some currency, and the rental agency (Magdaz Car, which I highly recommend) delivered the car straight to the airport with some great route tips (don’t blindly trust Maps.me). The night drive was a bit intense—lots of people out and about due to Ramadan. Stayed at Riad Midhou (really nice) on the outskirts of the city, which made it easy to hit the road the next morning.
- Day 1: Marrakech to Skoura. The drive was smooth, roads are great, but watch out for roundabout priority—it’s different from France. Beautiful route. Quick stop in Ouarzazate for lunch, Ait Benhaddou for the view (stunning), and the Fint Oasis (meh...). Spent the night at Taloute Ecolodge in Skoura, overlooking the palm grove (super cozy).
- Day 2: Skoura to Todgha Gorges via the Valley of Roses and Dades Gorges. Adventure-packed day! We crossed the Valley of Roses (pretty, but not as amazing as I’d hoped) and took a "shortcut" recommended by the *Routard* guide to reach the Dades Gorges without backtracking. After asking locals, they said, "It’s doable." Turns out it was a narrow, rocky cliffside track—no way to turn around! A stressful moment, with a nice scratch on the bumper and a good sweat. Fine in an SUV or 4x4, but not in a Logan... Then the Dades Gorges (nice) and a detour through the north to reach Todgha from above. Gorgeous mountain road and a quick stop on some snow patches—touching African snow! Spent the night at *Les Gorges de Todgha*—great place, except for the bathroom. The Todgha Gorges themselves are stunning!
Day 3: Todgha to Merzouga. Beautiful drive, and the view of the erg (sand dunes) on arrival is breathtaking! Totally worth the trip. Explored the desert and stayed at *Café du Sud* hotel just outside Merzouga—absolutely gorgeous.
Day 4: Merzouga. Desert exploration and chilling by the hotel pool (with a bonus sunburn). Lunch in Merzouga—I recommend *Dakar*—their lemon tajine was amazing. Spent the night in the hotel’s luxury camp, including a camel ride. The camp was beautiful, but I was disappointed we weren’t deeper in the desert given the price (100 € per person, including dinner, breakfast, and camel ride).
Day 5: Merzouga to Tamnougalt. Gorgeous route. First fine (a supposed stop sign...) but the officer was super nice—only 150 MAD. Stayed at *Kasbah Maktob*, right in the middle of ruins—really unique and beautiful!
Day 6: Tamnougalt to Marrakech. Another beautiful drive, and a second fine (minor speeding), same amount. Crossed a windy mountain pass during a big storm—traffic was blocked in the opposite direction (not sure why), causing massive jams for those coming from Marrakech. A few downed cables, but nothing serious. Arriving in Marrakech was tricky—hard to find the rental agency, and the traffic was intense (watch out for GPS trying to send you through the medina). Ask the rental company to meet you somewhere quiet. They didn’t even notice the damaged bumper... Stayed at *Riad Zifamo* in the heart of the medina. Big change of pace—so many people and so much hustle!
Day 7: Marrakech. Lots of wandering through the souk and a quick trip to Gueliz (not essential). A few tips for the medina: watch out for scooters weaving too fast, always negotiate prices (aim for at least 1/3 off what they ask, unless it’s a small amount), don’t buy spices—more expensive than in France! Head to the *Carrefour Market* in Gueliz for better prices. In the end, not many truly unique items—you’ll find more or less the same things everywhere.
Day 8: Early morning flight. We’d booked a car to the airport from the riad, but a taxi would’ve been fine—plenty available even at 7 AM. Security wasn’t an issue (we had lighters and liquids over 100 ml).
A few extra notes: Pleasantly surprised by the road quality—just a few potholes here and there, but overall very drivable. Watch out for the police—they’re everywhere! The car cost me 30 € per day (with the *Routard* discount) and about 90 € in gas. No safety concerns, no harassment, and no stomach issues, despite the ice in Marrakech. Breakfasts at the hotels were usually hearty—take advantage! The timing (end of February) was perfect—pleasant daytime temps and cool nights. Since it was Ramadan, nothing unusual to report, except it was hard to find food outside Marrakech at lunchtime. If I did it again, Merzouga is a must, but I’d spend a night in a real desert bivouac, deeper in the dunes. My stops (no more than 300 km a day) were well-paced, and with so few cars on the road, it wasn’t tiring—even though I’m not usually a fan of driving... Happy to answer any questions!
Hi there,
I’m traveling solo to Egypt. Could you give me a rough idea of the budget for:
meals
hotels
taxis including tips
visits...
Just an estimate, of course.
For 15 days, what would the price range be, considering there’s an overnight train and a Nile cruise?
I’d like to compare with a travel agency. Is it more worthwhile to go through an agency despite the downsides of group travel?
Otherwise, if a travel buddy is interested in this country, why not?
Thanks a lot!





