Entrer au Kirghizistan depuis la Chine
by Barou
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour tout le monde.
Je prevois de passer au Kirghistan depuis la Chine a la fin de l'ete prochain. Mon itineraire en Chine serait grosso modo d'entrer par le Vietnam, faire un petit detour par Shenzhen et Xi'an avant de rebrousser chemin vers le Tibet, suite a quoi je reviendrais sur Kashgar.
Par contre, aux dernieres nouvelles, je crois qu'il est impossible d'obtenir un visa pour le Kirghistan a la frontiere. Ma seule option serait de remonter a Urumqi et prendre un vol vers l'aeroport de Bishkek ou ils delivrent des visas, mais cette solution n'est pas terrible.
L'ambassade est a Pekin, ce qui n'est pas sur mon chemin.
Est-ce que quelqu'un saurait donc me renseigner sur la possibilite d'obtenir le Visa a Hong Kong. A quel tarif et sous quels delais, necessite de fournir une lettre d'invitation? Sinon, y a t'il espoir de voir un bureau de visas ouvrir a Kashgar dans les prochains mois (ou peut etre que cela a ete fait recemment)?
Par avance merci.
Mon Lonely Planet d'Asie Centrale acheté il y a deux mois écrit : "Le Central Asia Hotel à Ürümqi vous obtiendra votre visa pour 56/112$US en 3/5 jours". Mais le Lonely Planet de Chine ne donne pas les coordonnées de cet hôtel à Ürümqi. Vérifie l'information. Je n'y suis pas encore allée. J'y vais l'été prochain et dans l'autre sens.
Merci pour l'info.
Est-il precise qu'aucune lettre d'invitation ou de recommandation n'est requise pour l'obtention du visa?
Je continue à te donner des informations sans avoir encore fait ce voyage puisque personne d'autre a l'air de te répondre.
En y pensant mieux, je pense que l'hotel d'Ürümqi en question fait le visa au bureau des visas et passeports du Kazakhstan à Ürümqi :
adresse : Kunming Lu 31 téléphone 991-381 5796 mail : kazpass@mail.xj.cninfo.net
(coordonnées prises sur le Lonely Planet Asie Centrale, le Kazakhstan a aussi un consulat à Shanghai, aussi hors de ta route ?)
Si je pense que c'est le Kazakhstan qui donne le visa, c'est parce qu'en France et en Espagne (où j'habite), c'est le Kazakhstan qui représente le Kirghizistan et fait les visas. La seule différence, c'est que les ambassades et consulats du Kirghizistan (à Bruxelles ou Vienne) ne demandent pas de lettre d'invitation, mais quand on passe par un office du Kazakhstan, oui, ils demandent une lettre d'invitation ou plutôt le numéro d'enregistrement de cette lettre au ministère des Affaires Etrangères du Kirghizistan, ce qui veut dire plus de temps et plus d'argent. Il est possible que le Central Asia Hotel d'Ürümqi aient un contact au Kirghizistan qui s'occupe de ça, mais tu payeras bien sûr pour le service et cela prendra un peu plus de temps. En plus le bureau kazakh ne parle peut-être que chinois, kazakh et russe, donc si à l'hôtel ils parlent un peu d'anglais, ça peut aider. A ta place j'essayerais de connaître leurs coordonnées et de les contacter avant pour savoir combien de temps et d'argent ils veulent. J'ai essayé de chercher leur adresse sur le net et tout ce que j'ai trouvé c'est un lien qui ne marche plus sur un blog de voyageur qui écrivait que l'hotel était près du consulat kazakh, ce qui confirme ce que j'avais deviné auparavant. J'ai trouvé aussi une agence de voyage à Urumqi qui travaille avec cet hotel : www.silkroute.cn. Si tu contactes directement une agence kirghize (nombreuses adresses sur VF), ils demanderont aussi de l'argent je suppose, ou d'acheter chez eux des réservations d'hôtels, de transport ou d'excursions. A voir ...
Bon, pour terminer, voici les infos de action-visas.com qui est un bureau de Paris qui s'occupe de tous visas contre rémunération, bien sûr : Période de validité du visa obtenu et durée du séjour possible : L'arrivée et la sortie doivent s'effectuer dans l'intervalle des dates d'entrée et de sortie demandées et mentionnées sur le visa. Délai normal d’obtention : 3 à 5 jours ouvrés Prix pour un visa d’un mois simple entrée : 35 € (+ leurs frais de 40 € mais cela ne te concerne pas)
Documents nécessaires : 1- Un Formulaire officiel de l'ambassade du Kazakhstan (représente le Kirghizistan en France) 2- Une photo d'identité - format 4, 5 x 3, 5cm (pas de photocopie ni de photo scannée) 3- Un passeport dont la validité doit être supérieure de 6 mois après la date d'expiration du visa demandé ainsi qu'une page entièrement libre de toute inscription pour le visa du Kirghizistan 4- Visas touristiques: une lettre d'invitation contenant le numéro d'enregistrement de celle-ci auprès du Département du service consulaire du Ministère des Affaires Etrangères du Kirghizistan (action-visas propose de l’obtenir pour 100 € de plus et 5 jours d’obtention de plus)
J'espère que toutes ces informations te seront utiles. Ecris-moi plus tard comment tu auras réussi à avoir ton visa. Ça m'intéresse de savoir si mon travail aura été utile et je pense aussi que ça peut servir plus tard à d'autres voyageurs dans ton cas. Bon voyage Pasqualina.
Si je pense que c'est le Kazakhstan qui donne le visa, c'est parce qu'en France et en Espagne (où j'habite), c'est le Kazakhstan qui représente le Kirghizistan et fait les visas. La seule différence, c'est que les ambassades et consulats du Kirghizistan (à Bruxelles ou Vienne) ne demandent pas de lettre d'invitation, mais quand on passe par un office du Kazakhstan, oui, ils demandent une lettre d'invitation ou plutôt le numéro d'enregistrement de cette lettre au ministère des Affaires Etrangères du Kirghizistan, ce qui veut dire plus de temps et plus d'argent. Il est possible que le Central Asia Hotel d'Ürümqi aient un contact au Kirghizistan qui s'occupe de ça, mais tu payeras bien sûr pour le service et cela prendra un peu plus de temps. En plus le bureau kazakh ne parle peut-être que chinois, kazakh et russe, donc si à l'hôtel ils parlent un peu d'anglais, ça peut aider. A ta place j'essayerais de connaître leurs coordonnées et de les contacter avant pour savoir combien de temps et d'argent ils veulent. J'ai essayé de chercher leur adresse sur le net et tout ce que j'ai trouvé c'est un lien qui ne marche plus sur un blog de voyageur qui écrivait que l'hotel était près du consulat kazakh, ce qui confirme ce que j'avais deviné auparavant. J'ai trouvé aussi une agence de voyage à Urumqi qui travaille avec cet hotel : www.silkroute.cn. Si tu contactes directement une agence kirghize (nombreuses adresses sur VF), ils demanderont aussi de l'argent je suppose, ou d'acheter chez eux des réservations d'hôtels, de transport ou d'excursions. A voir ...
Bon, pour terminer, voici les infos de action-visas.com qui est un bureau de Paris qui s'occupe de tous visas contre rémunération, bien sûr : Période de validité du visa obtenu et durée du séjour possible : L'arrivée et la sortie doivent s'effectuer dans l'intervalle des dates d'entrée et de sortie demandées et mentionnées sur le visa. Délai normal d’obtention : 3 à 5 jours ouvrés Prix pour un visa d’un mois simple entrée : 35 € (+ leurs frais de 40 € mais cela ne te concerne pas)
Documents nécessaires : 1- Un Formulaire officiel de l'ambassade du Kazakhstan (représente le Kirghizistan en France) 2- Une photo d'identité - format 4, 5 x 3, 5cm (pas de photocopie ni de photo scannée) 3- Un passeport dont la validité doit être supérieure de 6 mois après la date d'expiration du visa demandé ainsi qu'une page entièrement libre de toute inscription pour le visa du Kirghizistan 4- Visas touristiques: une lettre d'invitation contenant le numéro d'enregistrement de celle-ci auprès du Département du service consulaire du Ministère des Affaires Etrangères du Kirghizistan (action-visas propose de l’obtenir pour 100 € de plus et 5 jours d’obtention de plus)
J'espère que toutes ces informations te seront utiles. Ecris-moi plus tard comment tu auras réussi à avoir ton visa. Ça m'intéresse de savoir si mon travail aura été utile et je pense aussi que ça peut servir plus tard à d'autres voyageurs dans ton cas. Bon voyage Pasqualina.
Alors la je n'ai qu'un mot pour toi ou plutot 3: Un grand merci.
Je m'occupe de ca le mois prochain et tache de te tenir au courant.
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Coucou ! C'est encore moi ! Regardes le post que j'ai trouvé en fouinant sur VF : c'est un post remontant au 17 juillet 2007 de Allonzyvoir, dans une discussion sur le Kirghizistan n'ayant rien à voir avec les formalités administratives. Tu peux lui envoyer un message personnel pour confirmer si tu veux. Voici son post :
" Délivrance du visa kirghize à Urumqi : A Urumqi, le consulat kirghise est situe 38 North Hetan Road, au croisement avec Xihong Lu, dans l'enceinte du Central Asia Hotel (jaune fonce, 4 niveaux). L'entree du consulat est une petite porte discrete a gauche de l'entree de l'hotel, il y a un signe en anglais.
Il est ouvert en semaine et les demandes de visa se font de 11h a 14h (heure de Beijing). Le retrait se fait a 13h30.
Le visa de tourisme coute 476 RMB delivre en 5 jours travailles (en realite il est actuellement delivre en 4 jours, ex : depot le lundi, retrait le jeudi). Il existe un service express en 2 jours (le jour meme actuellement) pour plus de 900 RMB.
Le formulaire est traduit en anglais et le personnel parle anglais. Il faut indiquer lors de la demande la date d'entree prevue et la duree du sejour (max 30 jours). La duree du sejour court a compter de la date indiquee et fixe du meme coup les dates de validite du visa : on peut entrer dans le pays apres la date prevue, mais c'est autant de temps perdu sur la duree du sejour autorisee. Il faut joindre une photo et une petite lettre expliquant les raisons du sejour, la duree, ce qu'on prevoit de faire. En revanche, les francais sont dispenses de lettre d'invitation, donc le consulat n'en reclame pas. "
" Délivrance du visa kirghize à Urumqi : A Urumqi, le consulat kirghise est situe 38 North Hetan Road, au croisement avec Xihong Lu, dans l'enceinte du Central Asia Hotel (jaune fonce, 4 niveaux). L'entree du consulat est une petite porte discrete a gauche de l'entree de l'hotel, il y a un signe en anglais.
Il est ouvert en semaine et les demandes de visa se font de 11h a 14h (heure de Beijing). Le retrait se fait a 13h30.
Le visa de tourisme coute 476 RMB delivre en 5 jours travailles (en realite il est actuellement delivre en 4 jours, ex : depot le lundi, retrait le jeudi). Il existe un service express en 2 jours (le jour meme actuellement) pour plus de 900 RMB.
Le formulaire est traduit en anglais et le personnel parle anglais. Il faut indiquer lors de la demande la date d'entree prevue et la duree du sejour (max 30 jours). La duree du sejour court a compter de la date indiquee et fixe du meme coup les dates de validite du visa : on peut entrer dans le pays apres la date prevue, mais c'est autant de temps perdu sur la duree du sejour autorisee. Il faut joindre une photo et une petite lettre expliquant les raisons du sejour, la duree, ce qu'on prevoit de faire. En revanche, les francais sont dispenses de lettre d'invitation, donc le consulat n'en reclame pas. "
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There are two ways to look at it:
1) The first day she spent in the Schengen Area was January 21st. That day will drop out of the calculation 180 days later, on July 20th.
From July 20th, she’ll get back 1 day of possible stay; on July 22nd, 2 days; and so on. All the days from her previous stay (January 21st–April 16th) need to be outside the 180-day rolling window. The last day of her stay was April 16th. Looking 180 days ahead, that brings us to October 13th. From that date, she’ll be able to return for a full 90 days. 2) The number of allowed days is calculated for each day of the new stay. In other words: the 180-day window is recalculated every day, not fixed at the entry date. If she re-enters France on July 18th, she’ll only have a “credit” of 4 days. But with each day of her new stay, one day from the previous stay (January–April) will drop out of the calculation. The rolling window allows her to “replace” days from the previous stay with those of the new stay, without ever exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period. In this case, my partner could stay in France for 90 days starting on July 18th. The Prefecture doesn’t provide any information, nor does Air France, and in the forums I’ve checked, opinions are divided. Thanks for any insights you can share!
She plans to return to France on July 18th. According to the European Commission’s Schengen calculator, this new stay “may be authorized for a maximum of 90 days.” That’s not very clear ("may be," "for a maximum of").
The text of Article 6 of the European regulation (2016/399) states that for a stay planned in the territory of the Member States, not exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period, one must examine "the 180-day period preceding each day of the stay." That’s not very clear either.
My partner wants to return to France for a 90-day period starting on July 18th. Is this possible?
There are two ways to look at it:
1) The first day she spent in the Schengen Area was January 21st. That day will drop out of the calculation 180 days later, on July 20th.
From July 20th, she’ll get back 1 day of possible stay; on July 22nd, 2 days; and so on. All the days from her previous stay (January 21st–April 16th) need to be outside the 180-day rolling window. The last day of her stay was April 16th. Looking 180 days ahead, that brings us to October 13th. From that date, she’ll be able to return for a full 90 days. 2) The number of allowed days is calculated for each day of the new stay. In other words: the 180-day window is recalculated every day, not fixed at the entry date. If she re-enters France on July 18th, she’ll only have a “credit” of 4 days. But with each day of her new stay, one day from the previous stay (January–April) will drop out of the calculation. The rolling window allows her to “replace” days from the previous stay with those of the new stay, without ever exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period. In this case, my partner could stay in France for 90 days starting on July 18th. The Prefecture doesn’t provide any information, nor does Air France, and in the forums I’ve checked, opinions are divided. Thanks for any insights you can share!
Hello,
We’re planning to travel to Indonesia (Sulawesi with family) next July and August for a stay longer than a month (about 6 weeks).
I’ve seen that it’s possible to get a 60-day visa before departure, but I’ve also read about people having a lot of trouble getting it (some even didn’t manage and had to leave without it).
We absolutely need to have these 4 visas BEFORE leaving because once we’re in Sulawesi, I’m not sure we’ll be able to go to an embassy to request a visa extension after 30 days.
In short, how can we **100% guarantee** that we’ll get our 4 60-day visas before our trip this summer?
Thanks for your valuable tips!
Elodie
In short, how can we **100% guarantee** that we’ll get our 4 60-day visas before our trip this summer?
Thanks for your valuable tips!
Elodie
Hi there,
I’m leaving for Japan in a few weeks. I just noticed my passport has an ink stain on the signature page. Could this cause any issues?
I’m leaving for Japan in a few weeks. I just noticed my passport has an ink stain on the signature page. Could this cause any issues?
Hello, HAPPY NEW YEAR 2026!
We’re heading back in October for a trip through Botswana, Zambia, and Zimbabwe.
I have a question: for our route, we’ll need to cross the Zambia and Zimbabwe borders twice each. From experience, I know we won’t have any issues with Botswana.
But for the other two countries, I can’t find a clear answer.
All your tips are welcome!
Thanks for your replies
Thanks for your replies
Hi everyone!
I’m currently a student on a gap year, and I don’t plan to go back to school right away. That said, traveling really interests me. But I’ve been wondering: does being a student come with any perks when you decide to go abroad? The real question is whether I should re-enroll in a program just to keep that status without actually attending.
Thanks in advance for your replies,
Axel
I’m currently a student on a gap year, and I don’t plan to go back to school right away. That said, traveling really interests me. But I’ve been wondering: does being a student come with any perks when you decide to go abroad? The real question is whether I should re-enroll in a program just to keep that status without actually attending.
Thanks in advance for your replies,
Axel
hi everyone,
I’m French and live in France, and my Thai girlfriend just told me she’s pregnant—she lives in Thailand. First step, a paternity test to set my mind at ease. What steps do I need to take to recognize the child? Can I do it before the birth or only after? Where do I need to go, and what paperwork is required?
Just to clarify, I want him to stay in Thailand but be able to come to France anytime without any issues! Thanks for taking the time to read and reply.
Just to clarify, I want him to stay in Thailand but be able to come to France anytime without any issues! Thanks for taking the time to read and reply.





