Escale de 8 heures à Pékin
by Prisonbreak69
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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bonjour
je serai pour la premiere fois en escale a pekin le mois prochain pour une escale entre 12.30 et 20.20
est ce quelqu un peut me conseiller sur ce qu il est possible de faire /de voir pour ce delai?
mon budget est limité donc voiture avec chauffeur exclus
merci
bonjour
je serai pour la premiere fois en escale a pekin le mois prochain pour une escale entre 12.30 et 20.20
est ce quelqu un peut me conseiller sur ce qu il est possible de faire /de voir pour ce delai?
mon budget est limité donc voiture avec chauffeur exclus
merci
Tu peux te rendre au centre-ville voir la Place Tian an men, c'est quand même incroyable de voir le portrait de Mao et tous ces gens qui s'y pressent... Tu peux prendre le ligne express de l’aéroport (les stations sont aux terminaux 2 et 3), ça prend 15-20min, le temps d'attente entre 2 rames et 15 min, ça côute 25 yuans (3 euros). En gros, c'est entre 6h00 et 23h00. Tu arrives aux stations Sanyuanqiao (correspondance avec la ligne 10) ou Dongzhimen (correspondance avec les lignes 2 et 13). A partir de là, tu peux te balader dans les Hutongs autour, peut-être visiter la Cité Interdite, mais je crains qu'il n'y ait beaucoup de monde et une grosse file d'attente...
Tu peux te rendre au centre-ville voir la Place Tian an men, c'est quand même incroyable de voir le portrait de Mao et tous ces gens qui s'y pressent... Tu peux prendre le ligne express de l’aéroport (les stations sont aux terminaux 2 et 3), ça prend 15-20min, le temps d'attente entre 2 rames et 15 min, ça côute 25 yuans (3 euros). En gros, c'est entre 6h00 et 23h00. Tu arrives aux stations Sanyuanqiao (correspondance avec la ligne 10) ou Dongzhimen (correspondance avec les lignes 2 et 13). A partir de là, tu peux te balader dans les Hutongs autour, peut-être visiter la Cité Interdite, mais je crains qu'il n'y ait beaucoup de monde et une grosse file d'attente...
J.K.A. BURNABY
Peregrinor, ergo sum
Peregrinor, ergo sum
peut-être visiter la Cité Interdite, mais je crains qu'il n'y ait beaucoup de monde et une grosse file d'attente...
Non, il n'y a plus d'attente significative, aux dernières nouvelles, car les citoyens chinois ont l'obligation d'acheter leurs billets en ligne. Il n'y a plus que les étrangers qui achètent leurs billets aux guichets sur place. Sinon, il y a aussi le magnifique Musée National, à deux pas de la Cité Interdite, côté nord-est de la place Tien'anmen.
Non, il n'y a plus d'attente significative, aux dernières nouvelles, car les citoyens chinois ont l'obligation d'acheter leurs billets en ligne. Il n'y a plus que les étrangers qui achètent leurs billets aux guichets sur place. Sinon, il y a aussi le magnifique Musée National, à deux pas de la Cité Interdite, côté nord-est de la place Tien'anmen.
ok merci
donc la cité interdite pour une demi journée ca vaut le coup? j imagine que je verrai qu une partie pour ce laps de temps
ca ferme a 17h et ca coute 60 yuans c est bien ca?
sachant que mon vol arrive a 12h30 je peux y etre a 14h?
Avec un transit de cette courte durée, les probabilités sont que vous ne verrez que l'aéroport. Il est fort probable qu'ils vont vous refouler à l'immigration. Vous pouvez tout de même essayer.
et pourquoi ils me refouleraient? on a droit a une escale gratuite jusqu a 144h
Vous ne vous qualifiez pas pour cette exemption car vous y êtes pour moins de 24 heures. Vous avez droit à l'exemption de visa pour transit de moins de 24 heures. Cependant cela ne vous donne pas le droit de sortir de l'aéroport. C'est à la discrétion de l'agent d'immigration. il n'y a pas de règles écrites mais selon les retours de voyageurs, ils ne laissent pas les voyageurs quitter la zone de transit pour les transits de moins de 8 à 10 heures.
ok merci
donc la cité interdite pour une demi journée ca vaut le coup? j imagine que je verrai qu une partie pour ce laps de temps
Vous allez avoir nettement moins que la demi-journée, en fait. Pour optimiser son temps, mieux vaut se balader dans les hutongs et / ou visiter le Temple des Lamas (YongHeGong) et le temple de Confucius qui sont à une station de métro du terminus de l'Airport Express à Dongzhimen. Mais c'est évidemment moins emblématique de la ville.
ca ferme a 17h et ca coute 60 yuans c est bien ca?
Non, ça ferme à 16h en hiver. Vous auriez dû le trouver tout seul. https://en.dpm.org.cn/visit/
sachant que mon vol arrive a 12h30 je peux y etre a 14h?
A condition d'être assis vers l'avant de l'avion, de ne pas arriver derrière deux autres gros porteurs à l'immigration, de ne pas perdre de temps en tirant du cash à un distributeur, de n'hésiter nulle part (la signalétique est claire et bilingue)... cela fait quand même beaucoup de conditions.
Vous allez avoir nettement moins que la demi-journée, en fait. Pour optimiser son temps, mieux vaut se balader dans les hutongs et / ou visiter le Temple des Lamas (YongHeGong) et le temple de Confucius qui sont à une station de métro du terminus de l'Airport Express à Dongzhimen. Mais c'est évidemment moins emblématique de la ville.
ca ferme a 17h et ca coute 60 yuans c est bien ca?
Non, ça ferme à 16h en hiver. Vous auriez dû le trouver tout seul. https://en.dpm.org.cn/visit/
sachant que mon vol arrive a 12h30 je peux y etre a 14h?
A condition d'être assis vers l'avant de l'avion, de ne pas arriver derrière deux autres gros porteurs à l'immigration, de ne pas perdre de temps en tirant du cash à un distributeur, de n'hésiter nulle part (la signalétique est claire et bilingue)... cela fait quand même beaucoup de conditions.
bon c est pas tres optimiste vos reponses
on verra bien si on me laisse sortir ou pas deja
je suis optimiste donc j y crois😉
pour la cité interdite ca ferme a 16h30 au lieu de 17h en hiver y a pas une grande difference mais je me contenterai du temple des lamas pour etre relax
au retour par contre j aurai 14h d escale de 11h30 a 2h
la on me laissera sortir sur et la j aurai le temps de voir la grande muraille ou pas?
Bonjour,
La Grande Muraille ? En quelques heures d'escale ? Vous avez de l'ambition.
Michel
La Grande Muraille ? En quelques heures d'escale ? Vous avez de l'ambition.
Michel
14 heures c est plus que quelques heures😉
et oui je suis optimiste😎
au retour par contre j aurai 14h d escale de 11h30 a 2h
la on me laissera sortir sur et la j aurai le temps de voir la grande muraille ou pas?
Bonjour,
Contrairement à Tatra que je salue cordialement, ça me semble assez facile. Le plus beau site IMHO pour voir la Grande Muraille au départ de Pékin est Jinshanling, or les bus dans cette direction partent de la gare routière de Dongzhimen, à deux pas du terminus de l'Airport Express à Dongzhimen. Il y a certainement eu des changements de détail depuis ma dernière sortie à Jinshanling : je vous laisse rechercher sur ce forum des informations à jour. "De mon temps", les bus partaient à intervalle rapproché dans cette direction, et il fallait terminer le trajet avec l'un des chauffeurs de taxi au noir qui guettait le client pour la Grande Muraille.
Note : les voyagistes emmènent les touristes à Badaling qui est une usine à touristes, plus facile d'accès depuis Pékin, mais pas quand on vient de l'aéroport.
Bonjour,
Contrairement à Tatra que je salue cordialement, ça me semble assez facile. Le plus beau site IMHO pour voir la Grande Muraille au départ de Pékin est Jinshanling, or les bus dans cette direction partent de la gare routière de Dongzhimen, à deux pas du terminus de l'Airport Express à Dongzhimen. Il y a certainement eu des changements de détail depuis ma dernière sortie à Jinshanling : je vous laisse rechercher sur ce forum des informations à jour. "De mon temps", les bus partaient à intervalle rapproché dans cette direction, et il fallait terminer le trajet avec l'un des chauffeurs de taxi au noir qui guettait le client pour la Grande Muraille.
Note : les voyagistes emmènent les touristes à Badaling qui est une usine à touristes, plus facile d'accès depuis Pékin, mais pas quand on vient de l'aéroport.
Avec cette durée, vos chances de sortie sont meilleures. au retour
Cependant je ne prendrais pas un bus pour Jinshanling comme le suggère Marathon. Vous n'avez pas le luxe du temps. Tout d'abord de prendre ce bus ce n'est pas simple pour quelqu'un qui ne connaît pas la China et ne parle pas la langue. Au mieux vous arrivez à cet endroit entre 15h et 16h. Puis le retour risque d'être l'enfer. on a attendu 2 heures pour le bus.
C'est la plus belle section que j'ai visité mais si vous choisissez d'y aller il vous faudra un chauffeur. Si vous prenez un chauffeur, il y a aussi Mutianyu qui est bien et un peu moins loin.
14 heures c est plus que quelques heures😉
et oui je suis optimiste😎
A tous les pisse-froid qui te disent que ceci n'est pas possible, cela pas raisonnable et blablabla, je dis : essaye, tu n'as rien à perdre et oui ! tu as le temps de faire des choses et oui ! tu dois être optimiste, sinon tu t'en voudras !
A tous les pisse-froid qui te disent que ceci n'est pas possible, cela pas raisonnable et blablabla, je dis : essaye, tu n'as rien à perdre et oui ! tu as le temps de faire des choses et oui ! tu dois être optimiste, sinon tu t'en voudras !
J.K.A. BURNABY
Peregrinor, ergo sum
Peregrinor, ergo sum
hehe merci😉😉
Je suis donc arrivé a l heure a pekin...rempli le papier pour l exemption de visa..une première dame de l immigration m a mis le sticker sans problème...puis j ai passé l immigration proprement dite...pas de bagages a récupérer...20mn après l arrivée j etais devant le train pour aller en ville...qui dit mieux?
Je me suis baladé place Tiananmen et je suis allé mangé un morceau
Retour a l aéroport 2h avant le départ
Sécurité casse couilles par contre...fouille au corps limite...
Enfin de compte mon vol avait du retard donc j étais largement en avance.
pour résumer hyper facile de se retrouver même si l aéroport est grand.aucun problème pour sortir de l aéroport avec une escale de moins de 8h et formalités rapides.au retour je tente la grande muraille en transport public
Je suis donc arrivé a l heure a pekin...rempli le papier pour l exemption de visa..une première dame de l immigration m a mis le sticker sans problème...puis j ai passé l immigration proprement dite...pas de bagages a récupérer...20mn après l arrivée j etais devant le train pour aller en ville...qui dit mieux?
Je me suis baladé place Tiananmen et je suis allé mangé un morceau
Retour a l aéroport 2h avant le départ
Sécurité casse couilles par contre...fouille au corps limite...
Enfin de compte mon vol avait du retard donc j étais largement en avance.
pour résumer hyper facile de se retrouver même si l aéroport est grand.aucun problème pour sortir de l aéroport avec une escale de moins de 8h et formalités rapides.au retour je tente la grande muraille en transport public
Je suis bien content pour toi. Qui ne tente rien n'a rien. Tu as fait tien cet adage, contrairement à d'autres... J'espère que tu apprécieras la Grande Muraille au retour. Profite !
Je suis bien content pour toi. Qui ne tente rien n'a rien. Tu as fait tien cet adage, contrairement à d'autres... J'espère que tu apprécieras la Grande Muraille au retour. Profite !
J.K.A. BURNABY
Peregrinor, ergo sum
Peregrinor, ergo sum
et ben voila mission impossible realisee
n en deplaise a tous ceux qui m ont dit que c etait pas possible qu il fallait un chauffeur qu il fallait payer cher etc...
cout aller retour tout compris aeroport Mutianyu 82 yuans
j ai ajoute une photo pour eviter de me faire traiter de mytho
c etait pas de tout repos certes mais on vit qu une fois😉
en plus pas un chinois puisque apres la semaine du 1er mai
pas un touriste puisque arrive a 16h
temps parfait pas de pollution😎
et ben voila mission impossible realisee
n en deplaise a tous ceux qui m ont dit que c etait pas possible qu il fallait un chauffeur qu il fallait payer cher etc...
cout aller retour tout compris aeroport Mutianyu 82 yuans
j ai ajoute une photo pour eviter de me faire traiter de mytho
c etait pas de tout repos certes mais on vit qu une fois😉
en plus pas un chinois puisque apres la semaine du 1er mai
pas un touriste puisque arrive a 16h
temps parfait pas de pollution😎
Bravo à toi. Les grands experts pisse-froid feront-ils amende honorable ? Mais le plus important c'est que tu aies pu profiter. 🙂
Bravo à toi. Les grands experts pisse-froid feront-ils amende honorable ? Mais le plus important c'est que tu aies pu profiter. 🙂
J.K.A. BURNABY
Peregrinor, ergo sum
Peregrinor, ergo sum
14 heures c est plus que quelques heures😉
et oui je suis optimiste😎
A tous les pisse-froid qui te disent que ceci n'est pas possible, cela pas raisonnable et blablabla, je dis : essaye, tu n'as rien à perdre et oui ! tu as le temps de faire des choses et oui ! tu dois être optimiste, sinon tu t'en voudras !
Et qui a dit que ce n'était pas possible? Je vois qu'on a étalé les risques tout en disant d'essayer.
A tous les pisse-froid qui te disent que ceci n'est pas possible, cela pas raisonnable et blablabla, je dis : essaye, tu n'as rien à perdre et oui ! tu as le temps de faire des choses et oui ! tu dois être optimiste, sinon tu t'en voudras !
Et qui a dit que ce n'était pas possible? Je vois qu'on a étalé les risques tout en disant d'essayer.
et ben voila mission impossible realisee
n en deplaise a tous ceux qui m ont dit que c etait pas possible qu il fallait un chauffeur qu il fallait payer cher etc...
cout aller retour tout compris aeroport Mutianyu 82 yuans
j ai ajoute une photo pour eviter de me faire traiter de mytho
c etait pas de tout repos certes mais on vit qu une fois😉
en plus pas un chinois puisque apres la semaine du 1er mai
pas un touriste puisque arrive a 16h
temps parfait pas de pollution😎
Bonjour,
Je suis très surpris par la modicité du tarif du transport A/R aéroport - Mutianyu. Dont acte; j'aurais conseillé cette option (et non Airport Express + bus) si j'avais su que cela pouvait être si bon marché.
Merci pour ce retour d'expérience !
Bonjour,
Je suis très surpris par la modicité du tarif du transport A/R aéroport - Mutianyu. Dont acte; j'aurais conseillé cette option (et non Airport Express + bus) si j'avais su que cela pouvait être si bon marché.
Merci pour ce retour d'expérience !
C est effectivement ce que j ai fait Airport Express+bus 916 express + taxi collectif il n y a pas de transport direct.😉
C est effectivement ce que j ai fait Airport Express+bus 916 express + taxi collectif il n y a pas de transport direct.😉
Ah OK, j'avais mal compris. 😊
Ah OK, j'avais mal compris. 😊
Et qui a dit que ce n'était pas possible?
Ben toi...
Ben toi...
J.K.A. BURNABY
Peregrinor, ergo sum
Peregrinor, ergo sum
Pour un temps aussi, cours, j'irai sur la place Tiananmen, puis, au sud de la place, prenez la longue rue Qianmen, et à droite la rue Dashilan. Premenez y vous (sans vous perdre, afin d'avoir un aperçu du Pékin de la dynastie Qing).
Bien que touristique et un peu cher, il y a un restaurant réputé de canard laqué sur la rue Qianmen. Sinon, si ma mémoire ne me fait pas défaut, j'avais mangé dans un petit restaurant dans la rue voisine de Liangshidian (pensez à commander des Hong Shao qie zi 红烧茄子 - aubergines sauce soja)
Et qui a dit que ce n'était pas possible?
Ben toi...
Non, j'ai dit qu'il y avait de fort risque de na pas pouvoir sortir de l'aéroport mais qu'on pouvait essayer.
Ben toi...
Non, j'ai dit qu'il y avait de fort risque de na pas pouvoir sortir de l'aéroport mais qu'on pouvait essayer.
bonjour,
votre experience m interesse car nous sommes trois amies à avoir une escale à pekin le 10 juillet et une forte envie d'aller à Mutianyu directement de l'aeroport ( on arrive à 4h45 du matin et on repart le soir à minuit) Ma question est comment avez vous fait pour prendre un taxi direct de l aeroport et pour quel coût svp? cela nous éviterait de passer par le centre de pekin .. je vous remercie Cordialement sandrine
votre experience m interesse car nous sommes trois amies à avoir une escale à pekin le 10 juillet et une forte envie d'aller à Mutianyu directement de l'aeroport ( on arrive à 4h45 du matin et on repart le soir à minuit) Ma question est comment avez vous fait pour prendre un taxi direct de l aeroport et pour quel coût svp? cela nous éviterait de passer par le centre de pekin .. je vous remercie Cordialement sandrine
Relisez mes messages. Tout y est et je n ai jamais dit avoir pris un taxi de l aéroport😉
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Next, the old town was an infernal cacophony, packed with tourists who shoved past without a care. Some vendors harassed you to buy things. All the stalls sold the same cheap plastic junk or other uninteresting stuff. The beautiful scenery was ruined by vendors lining 100% of the alleys. Impossible to walk, crushing heat, nothing good to eat except fresh fruit. Horrible experience.
Day 2: We went to Cangshan Mountain by cable car—the ride was short and nothing spectacular. We were at 2,600 m.
My plan was to see Erhai Lake. Unfortunately, I followed the advice of an AI chatbot: take the boat at Langkan Dock. The Didi dropped us off in the nearest area, which was full of charming little alleys but packed with Chinese tourists. The three-wheeled yellow cabs zoomed through the narrow streets, forcing you to hug the walls, on top of the scooters and other pedestrians to deal with. Crossing the neighborhood was hellish and suffocating. Once out, we hit the "corniche," which was also packed with Chinese tourists. The lake’s edge was all pebbles, and everyone was standing around taking photos. I was with my 5-year-old son. I would’ve liked to sit down and let him play with stones by the water, but it was clear we didn’t belong. They were even shoving each other for a shot! There were no boats in sight. In short, we’d had enough, and there was nothing interesting there either.
On the way back, we had to cross that maze again under the scorching sun. My son was braver than me—I even had a little dizzy spell from all the chaos. Add to that Dali’s altitude (2,200 m), so altitude insomnia, fatigue, and vulnerability during the day...
The restaurants weren’t inviting—the staff served sticky rice in a little bucket. The dishes were wrapped, and you had to figure it out yourself. After that, they ignored you completely, even if you were the only tourist.
On the 3rd day, it was time to leave for Shaxi. I hope to see beautiful villages. But honestly, I’m exhausted by this atmosphere where everything is complicated, communication is never smooth, noise is everywhere, and the behavior of some Chinese people is abusive...
Silver lining: not a drop of rain in 4 days and blue skies.
I couldn’t visit the villages in southern Yunnan because of rain and storms there... But I was expecting to see a few more tourists.
I couldn’t visit the villages in southern Yunnan because of rain and storms there... But I was expecting to see a few more tourists.
Hi,
Great article that really captures what makes South Korea so appealing!
South Korea: Between Hallyu and the search for authenticity, the French are falling for the destination
Great article that really captures what makes South Korea so appealing!
South Korea: Between Hallyu and the search for authenticity, the French are falling for the destination
Hello,
We’re planning a 17-day trip to South Korea in October 2026 with my husband and our daughters, who’ll be 9 years old.
I’d love to get your thoughts on our draft itinerary.
First, some key details:
1/ Jeju Island is a must for us. I’ve personally dreamed of going there for years after reading a novel about it. 2/ Our girls are used to road-trip style travel since they were born, so this kind of trip won’t be an issue for them. 3/ We plan to travel by train, except on Jeju where we’ll rent a car (we already have an international driver’s permit).
Itinerary:
Seoul: 1 arrival day at 10 AM + 4 full days Gyeongju: 2 days Busan: 3 days Jeju: 4 days Seoul: 2 days
Thanks for your feedback! Have a great day,
Sabrina
We’re planning a 17-day trip to South Korea in October 2026 with my husband and our daughters, who’ll be 9 years old.
I’d love to get your thoughts on our draft itinerary.
First, some key details:
1/ Jeju Island is a must for us. I’ve personally dreamed of going there for years after reading a novel about it. 2/ Our girls are used to road-trip style travel since they were born, so this kind of trip won’t be an issue for them. 3/ We plan to travel by train, except on Jeju where we’ll rent a car (we already have an international driver’s permit).
Itinerary:
Seoul: 1 arrival day at 10 AM + 4 full days Gyeongju: 2 days Busan: 3 days Jeju: 4 days Seoul: 2 days
Thanks for your feedback! Have a great day,
Sabrina
Hi there,
My girlfriend (23) and I (24) are heading to Japan for the first time from October 20th to November 6th. Here’s our itinerary:
6 nights in Tokyo 1 night in Hakone (ryokan already booked) 4 nights in Kyoto (hotel already booked) 2 nights in Osaka 4 nights back in Tokyo I’d like to book hotels for Tokyo (both stays) and Osaka, but I’ve gotten so many different recommendations.
I’ve read that Shinjuku is the place to be for its huge hub, accessibility, and things to do, but I’ve also heard about Shibuya, Asakusa, and Ueno. I’ve looked at hotels, and first off, I’m surprised by the prices compared to what I’ve seen on forums (I guess inflation’s hit here too… and maybe I’m late to the booking game?). I’m feeling a bit overwhelmed with all the options.
For our first stay in Tokyo, I’d prefer a hotel (not a residence or Airbnb) since we’ll be arriving at night, and it’s our first time in Japan. It’d be great to have a place with a reception, staff who speak at least a little English, and can give us some guidance. For the second stay, we could consider other options if it’s better. Budget-wise, we can go up to 150–180 € per night, but if we can save some money to spend elsewhere, that’d be amazing!
I’m open to all recommendations, hotel suggestions, or any other tips for Tokyo (first stay), Osaka, and Tokyo (second stay).
Thanks so much!
6 nights in Tokyo 1 night in Hakone (ryokan already booked) 4 nights in Kyoto (hotel already booked) 2 nights in Osaka 4 nights back in Tokyo I’d like to book hotels for Tokyo (both stays) and Osaka, but I’ve gotten so many different recommendations.
I’ve read that Shinjuku is the place to be for its huge hub, accessibility, and things to do, but I’ve also heard about Shibuya, Asakusa, and Ueno. I’ve looked at hotels, and first off, I’m surprised by the prices compared to what I’ve seen on forums (I guess inflation’s hit here too… and maybe I’m late to the booking game?). I’m feeling a bit overwhelmed with all the options.
For our first stay in Tokyo, I’d prefer a hotel (not a residence or Airbnb) since we’ll be arriving at night, and it’s our first time in Japan. It’d be great to have a place with a reception, staff who speak at least a little English, and can give us some guidance. For the second stay, we could consider other options if it’s better. Budget-wise, we can go up to 150–180 € per night, but if we can save some money to spend elsewhere, that’d be amazing!
I’m open to all recommendations, hotel suggestions, or any other tips for Tokyo (first stay), Osaka, and Tokyo (second stay).
Thanks so much!
Hi there.
I’m traveling solo to China in October '26, heading to these spots:
Guilin - Yangshuo - Chengdu – Leshan – Chongqing – Zhangjiajie - Furong – Shanghai
Any guides you’d recommend?
Tons of "agencies" (gowithguide, Hellechinaguide, etc.) offer guides. Can I reach out to them? I also speak English.
Any other tips for me?
Thanks! !
Guilin - Yangshuo - Chengdu – Leshan – Chongqing – Zhangjiajie - Furong – Shanghai
Any guides you’d recommend?
Tons of "agencies" (gowithguide, Hellechinaguide, etc.) offer guides. Can I reach out to them? I also speak English.
Any other tips for me?
Thanks! !
Hi there,
I’m starting to look at neighborhoods in Seoul, and I’m leaning toward staying in a hotel in Insa-Dong—I’ve spotted one really close to Unhyeongung. Is this a good area—nice and convenient for exploring the city?
Otherwise, I’ve also found another hotel in Yongsan-Gu, right near the station of the same name. Is that station useful for getting around Seoul?
Since I’ll be in South Korea for nearly two months, I plan to spend at least a week in Seoul to recover from jet lag (it takes me a while to adjust...). So, I’d love a neighborhood that’s pleasant and a hotel not too far from a subway station.
Thanks in advance!
I’m starting to look at neighborhoods in Seoul, and I’m leaning toward staying in a hotel in Insa-Dong—I’ve spotted one really close to Unhyeongung. Is this a good area—nice and convenient for exploring the city?
Otherwise, I’ve also found another hotel in Yongsan-Gu, right near the station of the same name. Is that station useful for getting around Seoul?
Since I’ll be in South Korea for nearly two months, I plan to spend at least a week in Seoul to recover from jet lag (it takes me a while to adjust...). So, I’d love a neighborhood that’s pleasant and a hotel not too far from a subway station.
Thanks in advance!
Hi there,
I’m getting ready for a classic tourist trip to China in May 2026.
The "Terres Lointaines" itinerary looks good to me, and the price is interesting.
Has anyone traveled with them before? Any feedback?
Is there a better option?
Thanks so much for sharing your experiences on this!
Michel
hi, does anyone have suggestions or contacts for a private local driver without going through a big travel agency for a multi-day trip in Yunnan?
thanks for any info
thanks for any info
Hi there,
I just booked my hotel in Seoul—it’ll be near Unhyeongung, on Samil-Daero 30-Gil—and I’m wondering if there’s public transport from the airport to this address (bus or subway)? If not, what’s the taxi fare? I read it’s around 50 or 60 €.
I just booked my hotel in Seoul—it’ll be near Unhyeongung, on Samil-Daero 30-Gil—and I’m wondering if there’s public transport from the airport to this address (bus or subway)? If not, what’s the taxi fare? I read it’s around 50 or 60 €.
I’m traveling to Japan with a young adult with autism (ASD) from July 28 to August 8, following a pretty classic route: Osaka, Hiroshima, Kyoto, and Tokyo. I’m looking for a schedule of the most spectacular fireworks displays during that time. So far, the dates for the major *hanabi* events aren’t available online yet. If anyone has them, I’d really appreciate it if you could share!
Hi there,
We’ll be doing a self-drive trip using public transport in May 2026.
On Day 6, we’ll arrive in Hakone by train from Tokyo in late morning. We’ll spend the night in Hakone before heading to Kyoto.
The main goal of this stop is clearly the view (no hiking) of Mount Fuji, not so much exploring Hakone, where the sights seem limited. I’ve read on the forum that the view is great from Gotemba, but it also takes a good hour by bus to get there. And, apart from that view, there’s nothing else to see in Gotemba!
So, I’m not sure what to choose. Any thoughts? Or alternatives to suggest? Maybe some spots in Hakone or Gotemba for a great view?
Thanks in advance.
We’ll be doing a self-drive trip using public transport in May 2026.
On Day 6, we’ll arrive in Hakone by train from Tokyo in late morning. We’ll spend the night in Hakone before heading to Kyoto.
The main goal of this stop is clearly the view (no hiking) of Mount Fuji, not so much exploring Hakone, where the sights seem limited. I’ve read on the forum that the view is great from Gotemba, but it also takes a good hour by bus to get there. And, apart from that view, there’s nothing else to see in Gotemba!
So, I’m not sure what to choose. Any thoughts? Or alternatives to suggest? Maybe some spots in Hakone or Gotemba for a great view?
Thanks in advance.
Hi everyone, I’m Julien!
This summer, from late June to late July, I’m planning a one-month solo trip to Japan—my first time!
I’d love to hear your thoughts and advice on the itinerary I’ve put together to explore this amazing country.
Here are the routes I’m considering:
**Option 1: More mountain and nature-focused**
Tokyo: 8 nights, with day trips to Nikko and maybe the Izu Peninsula Kawaguchiko (Lake Kawaguchi/Mt. Fuji): 1 night. The place looks stunning, but I’m worried Mt. Fuji might not be visible due to the weather Kyoto: 6–7 nights (including a trip to Nara) Osaka: 1–2 nights, where I’d like to drop off my things to make the Kumano Kodo easier Kumano Kodo: 3 nights—an experience I haven’t seen much elsewhere, but I thought it sounded really interesting Hiroshima: 2 nights Miyajima: 1 night Takayama: 3 days Kanazawa: 3 days (From what I understand, the Osaka–Takayama–Kanazawa–Tokyo route is convenient for transport) Tokyo: 1 night (return)
**Option 2: More varied but a bit vague in parts**
Tokyo: 8 nights Kyoto: 7 nights (+ Nara) Osaka: 2 nights Kobe + Himeji: just passing through—I’m not sure if it’s worth a night Naoshima: 1 night—still pretty unclear for me Takamatsu: 2 nights. An interesting city, but I’m not sure how long to stay Shimanami Kaido: biking from Imabari to Onomichi, then heading to Hiroshima Hiroshima: 2 nights Miyajima: 1 night Kyushu road trip (Aso + onsens + Fukuoka): 5 nights (also pretty vague—I could fly from Fukuoka back to Tokyo) Tokyo: 1 night
**Option 3: More balanced/simplified**
Tokyo: 8 nights Kawaguchiko: 1 night Kyoto: 7 nights (+ Nara) Osaka: 2 nights Koya-san: 1 night Kumano Kodo: 3 nights Takayama: 3 nights Kanazawa: 3 nights Tokyo: 1 night
A few key points: I haven’t made any reservations yet, except for the flight tickets. I know my plans are too packed and will need to be adjusted. I’m specifically looking for advice on which stops to cut or shorten.
Here are the routes I’m considering:
**Option 1: More mountain and nature-focused**
Tokyo: 8 nights, with day trips to Nikko and maybe the Izu Peninsula Kawaguchiko (Lake Kawaguchi/Mt. Fuji): 1 night. The place looks stunning, but I’m worried Mt. Fuji might not be visible due to the weather Kyoto: 6–7 nights (including a trip to Nara) Osaka: 1–2 nights, where I’d like to drop off my things to make the Kumano Kodo easier Kumano Kodo: 3 nights—an experience I haven’t seen much elsewhere, but I thought it sounded really interesting Hiroshima: 2 nights Miyajima: 1 night Takayama: 3 days Kanazawa: 3 days (From what I understand, the Osaka–Takayama–Kanazawa–Tokyo route is convenient for transport) Tokyo: 1 night (return)
**Option 2: More varied but a bit vague in parts**
Tokyo: 8 nights Kyoto: 7 nights (+ Nara) Osaka: 2 nights Kobe + Himeji: just passing through—I’m not sure if it’s worth a night Naoshima: 1 night—still pretty unclear for me Takamatsu: 2 nights. An interesting city, but I’m not sure how long to stay Shimanami Kaido: biking from Imabari to Onomichi, then heading to Hiroshima Hiroshima: 2 nights Miyajima: 1 night Kyushu road trip (Aso + onsens + Fukuoka): 5 nights (also pretty vague—I could fly from Fukuoka back to Tokyo) Tokyo: 1 night
**Option 3: More balanced/simplified**
Tokyo: 8 nights Kawaguchiko: 1 night Kyoto: 7 nights (+ Nara) Osaka: 2 nights Koya-san: 1 night Kumano Kodo: 3 nights Takayama: 3 nights Kanazawa: 3 nights Tokyo: 1 night
A few key points: I haven’t made any reservations yet, except for the flight tickets. I know my plans are too packed and will need to be adjusted. I’m specifically looking for advice on which stops to cut or shorten.
Hello everyone,
Like Cedric13600, I’ve booked a flight ticket for 30 days / 29 nights in September 2026, from Beijing to Shanghai. We’re a couple in our sixties who love independent road trips.
I’d like to draw inspiration from the following private itinerary suggested by a travel agency:
Day 1: Arrival in Beijing Day 2 to 4: Beijing Day 5: Datong Day 6 & 7: Pingyao Day 8 to 10: Xi'an Day 11: Luoyang Day 12: Dengfeng flight Day 13 & 14: Chongqing flight Day 15 & 16: Lijiang Day 17: Dali Day 18: Kunming Day 19: Jianshui Day 20 & 21: Yuanyang Day 22: Travel via Guilin Day 23 & 24: Yangshuo Day 25: Guilin Day 26 & 27: Zhangjiajie flight Day 28 & 29: Shanghai Day 30: Departure from Shanghai
But to do this itinerary independently: 1. This schedule seems very ambitious to me—what do you think? 2. If it’s too packed, what would you remove as a priority? Thanks so much in advance for your help.
Day 1: Arrival in Beijing Day 2 to 4: Beijing Day 5: Datong Day 6 & 7: Pingyao Day 8 to 10: Xi'an Day 11: Luoyang Day 12: Dengfeng flight Day 13 & 14: Chongqing flight Day 15 & 16: Lijiang Day 17: Dali Day 18: Kunming Day 19: Jianshui Day 20 & 21: Yuanyang Day 22: Travel via Guilin Day 23 & 24: Yangshuo Day 25: Guilin Day 26 & 27: Zhangjiajie flight Day 28 & 29: Shanghai Day 30: Departure from Shanghai
But to do this itinerary independently: 1. This schedule seems very ambitious to me—what do you think? 2. If it’s too packed, what would you remove as a priority? Thanks so much in advance for your help.
Hello everyone,
I’m planning a 5-week trip between Yunnan and Sichuan from mid-October to the end of November 2026: Arriving in Kunming, I’ll do a loop in the far south of Yunnan via Thonghai, Jhiansu, Zhemi, Yuanyang, Nafa, Jinping, Mengzi, and Shilin (visiting markets, villages, and hiking), then head to northern Yunnan/southern Sichuan on the same theme (passing through Kunming again) via Dongchuan, Huize, Qiaojia, Puge, Xichang, Lanba, Butuo, Huolie, Dimo, Riha, Niuniuba, Meigu, Mabian, and Leshan, before arriving in Chengdu (where I’ll take my return flight to Paris). This would be a trip with a strong ethnic/rural focus. Since I’ve never traveled in China, I’d love to hear your thoughts on doing this solo. Are there public transport options in the region? What tips do you have for traveling through this area as smoothly and enjoyably as possible? I’ve done quite a bit of backpacking in the mountains of northern Vietnam and really enjoyed using local motorbike drivers. Is something like that available in this region (through local tourist agencies or hotels)?
What should I be cautious about? Are local tourist agencies (or hotels) offering tours and guides reliable? If you know of any specialized sites sharing tips or experiences, or names of local agencies, hotels, etc., please don’t hesitate to share them! :)
In short, all your advice (on any topic that comes to mind!) is very welcome. Thanks so much!
I’m planning a 5-week trip between Yunnan and Sichuan from mid-October to the end of November 2026: Arriving in Kunming, I’ll do a loop in the far south of Yunnan via Thonghai, Jhiansu, Zhemi, Yuanyang, Nafa, Jinping, Mengzi, and Shilin (visiting markets, villages, and hiking), then head to northern Yunnan/southern Sichuan on the same theme (passing through Kunming again) via Dongchuan, Huize, Qiaojia, Puge, Xichang, Lanba, Butuo, Huolie, Dimo, Riha, Niuniuba, Meigu, Mabian, and Leshan, before arriving in Chengdu (where I’ll take my return flight to Paris). This would be a trip with a strong ethnic/rural focus. Since I’ve never traveled in China, I’d love to hear your thoughts on doing this solo. Are there public transport options in the region? What tips do you have for traveling through this area as smoothly and enjoyably as possible? I’ve done quite a bit of backpacking in the mountains of northern Vietnam and really enjoyed using local motorbike drivers. Is something like that available in this region (through local tourist agencies or hotels)?
What should I be cautious about? Are local tourist agencies (or hotels) offering tours and guides reliable? If you know of any specialized sites sharing tips or experiences, or names of local agencies, hotels, etc., please don’t hesitate to share them! :)
In short, all your advice (on any topic that comes to mind!) is very welcome. Thanks so much!
Hi,
While researching South Korea, I came across the term "templestay," which refers to a Korean program that lets you stay in a traditional temple to discover Buddhism and Korean culture by living like the temple residents and doing activities like making lanterns. A templestay isn’t just for foreign tourists—on the booking site, I saw that some temples are more geared toward foreigners, with English-speaking monks.
I was wondering if it’s still worth it, especially in temples where the monks don’t speak English?
While researching South Korea, I came across the term "templestay," which refers to a Korean program that lets you stay in a traditional temple to discover Buddhism and Korean culture by living like the temple residents and doing activities like making lanterns. A templestay isn’t just for foreign tourists—on the booking site, I saw that some temples are more geared toward foreigners, with English-speaking monks.
I was wondering if it’s still worth it, especially in temples where the monks don’t speak English?
I'm 69 years old and heading to China, where most tourist sites are free or discounted for me. However, trip.com either refuses to let me book because the sites are free or doesn’t apply the discount. Does WeChat apply this discount if I book through them? How can I just reserve without paying and pay on-site? Is that possible?
How do I upload my passport to WeChat?
Thanks for your tips. Elisabeth
How do I upload my passport to WeChat?
Thanks for your tips. Elisabeth
Hi there,
I’d love to get some feedback on our 30-day / 29-night itinerary in China. We’ll be there in September as a family with two kids (6 and 10 years old). Do you think I should cut a few nights between Wulingyuan (Avatar Mountain) and Yangshuo? I’ve planned 15 nights total there. We’ll be on a round-the-world trip starting May 2026 and will need to do schoolwork with the kids. Hoping to fit it in during train rides!! Ever since I started planning this China itinerary, I’ve been discovering completely mind-blowing places I’d never heard of before—30 days feels way too short for China!!!
Here’s our itinerary:
Beijing - 4 nights Forbidden City Great Wall of China Temple of Heaven
Xi’an - 3 nights Terracotta Army Muslim Quarter & Great Mosque
Chengdu - 3 nights Zoo - Research Base of Giant Panda Breeding Wenshu Yuan Temple
Wulingyuan (Avatar Mountain) - 3 nights "Avatar Mountains"
Zhangjiajie - 2 nights Tianmen Mountain
Furong Town - 2 nights
Fenghuang - 2 nights
Guilin - 2 nights Chuanshan Park Guilin Yaoshan Scenic Attraction Reed Flute Cave
Yangshuo - 4 nights Biking along the Yulong River Moon Hill Ruyi Peak Xianggong Hill
Shanghai - 4 nights Shanghai Disneyland Yu Garden / Yuyuan Garden Yuyuan Bazaar
Thanks! Cédric
I’d love to get some feedback on our 30-day / 29-night itinerary in China. We’ll be there in September as a family with two kids (6 and 10 years old). Do you think I should cut a few nights between Wulingyuan (Avatar Mountain) and Yangshuo? I’ve planned 15 nights total there. We’ll be on a round-the-world trip starting May 2026 and will need to do schoolwork with the kids. Hoping to fit it in during train rides!! Ever since I started planning this China itinerary, I’ve been discovering completely mind-blowing places I’d never heard of before—30 days feels way too short for China!!!
Here’s our itinerary:
Beijing - 4 nights Forbidden City Great Wall of China Temple of Heaven
Xi’an - 3 nights Terracotta Army Muslim Quarter & Great Mosque
Chengdu - 3 nights Zoo - Research Base of Giant Panda Breeding Wenshu Yuan Temple
Wulingyuan (Avatar Mountain) - 3 nights "Avatar Mountains"
Zhangjiajie - 2 nights Tianmen Mountain
Furong Town - 2 nights
Fenghuang - 2 nights
Guilin - 2 nights Chuanshan Park Guilin Yaoshan Scenic Attraction Reed Flute Cave
Yangshuo - 4 nights Biking along the Yulong River Moon Hill Ruyi Peak Xianggong Hill
Shanghai - 4 nights Shanghai Disneyland Yu Garden / Yuyuan Garden Yuyuan Bazaar
Thanks! Cédric
Hi there,
We just got back from a 2-week trip to China as a couple, and before we left, the budget was the hardest thing to picture concretely. We found plenty of info on visas, apps, transport, and itineraries, but way fewer detailed breakdowns of what you *actually* spend on the ground.
So, we took the time to share our real budget for 14 days. In our case, we spent around 1,800 € per person, with a big chunk of that going toward round-trip flights at about 600 € per person. We were also pretty surprised by how affordable China can be once you’re there—transport is often cheap, and a lot of everyday expenses stay reasonable.
The trickiest part, in the end, was figuring out how to pay while you’re there, since it’s not always obvious if you’re not prepared. But once everything’s set up and you get the hang of it, it’s really smooth.
If this can help other travelers get a better idea before they go, we’ve broken it all down here:
https://aventures-sans-mesaventure.com/budget-2-semaines-de-voyage-en-chine/
Happy travels and enjoy your adventure! Hélia
Happy travels and enjoy your adventure! Hélia
Hi everyone,
I’ve been planning several itineraries for a trip to Japan with my wife but would love your insights before we start booking!
In short, we want to go during Golden Week, see late-blooming cherry trees, and have the freedom to get around with a rental car.
Here’s the plan:
18-day itinerary in Japan (April 25 → May 12)
Goal: freedom, late cherry blossoms, culture & nature
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Days 1–3: Tokyo (April 25–27) Arrival and adjustment (no car needed yet). Neighborhoods to visit: Shinjuku, Asakusa, Meiji Jingu, Shibuya, Odaiba. Suggested activities: Ghibli Museum, Sumida River cruise, izakaya meals. Late cherry blossoms (yaezakura) possible at Shinjuku Gyoen. Pick up the rental car on the morning of April 27.
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Days 4–5: Mount Fuji & Hakone (April 27–28) Route: Tokyo → Kawaguchiko/Hakone (~2 h).
Activities: Lake Kawaguchi, Chureito Pagoda (Fuji views + late cherry blossoms) Onsen baths, Hakone Open-Air Museum. Stay: ryokan with onsen and views of Mount Fuji.
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Days 6–7: Takayama & Shirakawa-go (April 29–30) Route: Hakone → Takayama (~4 h).
Activities: Preserved old town, sake breweries, UNESCO village of Shirakawa-go. Stay: traditional minshuku (thatched-roof house). Cherry blossoms are finishing at this altitude — beautiful mountain/nature contrasts. ---
Days 8–10: Kyoto & Nara (May 1–3) Route: Takayama → Kyoto (~4 h 30).
Activities in Kyoto: Fushimi Inari (red torii gates), Golden Pavilion, Arashiyama, Gion (geisha district).
Day trip to Nara: Free-roaming deer in Nara Park, Todai-ji Temple, Kasuga Taisha Shrine. Stay: Kyoto (3 nights).
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Day 11: Osaka or Himeji (May 4) Route: Kyoto → Osaka (~1 h) or Himeji (~1 h 30).
Option 1: Osaka → modern vibe, street food, castle. Option 2: Himeji → stunning UNESCO-listed castle. Stay: Osaka.
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Days 12–13: Kanazawa (May 5–6) Route: Osaka → Kanazawa (~4 h 30).
Activities: Kenroku-en Garden (gorgeous in spring), Omicho Market, samurai district. Stay: Kanazawa.
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Days 14–15: Northern Japan – Aomori / Hirosaki (May 7–8) Route: Kanazawa → Aomori (~7 h, possible to break via Sendai).
Activities: Hirosaki Castle Park (peak bloom early May). Northern onsen (e.g., Sukayu). Stay: Hirosaki or Aomori.
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Days 16–17: Nikko (May 9–10) Route: Aomori → Nikko (~6 h).
Activities: Toshogu Shrine, Kegon Falls, Lake Chuzenji. Stay: Nikko.
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Day 18: Return to Tokyo & Relax in Kamakura (May 11–12) Route: Nikko → Kamakura (~3 h) → Tokyo (~1 h).
Activities: Great Buddha, Zen temples, seaside at Enoshima. Final night: Tokyo before the return flight.
Thanks in advance for your feedback!
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Days 1–3: Tokyo (April 25–27) Arrival and adjustment (no car needed yet). Neighborhoods to visit: Shinjuku, Asakusa, Meiji Jingu, Shibuya, Odaiba. Suggested activities: Ghibli Museum, Sumida River cruise, izakaya meals. Late cherry blossoms (yaezakura) possible at Shinjuku Gyoen. Pick up the rental car on the morning of April 27.
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Days 4–5: Mount Fuji & Hakone (April 27–28) Route: Tokyo → Kawaguchiko/Hakone (~2 h).
Activities: Lake Kawaguchi, Chureito Pagoda (Fuji views + late cherry blossoms) Onsen baths, Hakone Open-Air Museum. Stay: ryokan with onsen and views of Mount Fuji.
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Days 6–7: Takayama & Shirakawa-go (April 29–30) Route: Hakone → Takayama (~4 h).
Activities: Preserved old town, sake breweries, UNESCO village of Shirakawa-go. Stay: traditional minshuku (thatched-roof house). Cherry blossoms are finishing at this altitude — beautiful mountain/nature contrasts. ---
Days 8–10: Kyoto & Nara (May 1–3) Route: Takayama → Kyoto (~4 h 30).
Activities in Kyoto: Fushimi Inari (red torii gates), Golden Pavilion, Arashiyama, Gion (geisha district).
Day trip to Nara: Free-roaming deer in Nara Park, Todai-ji Temple, Kasuga Taisha Shrine. Stay: Kyoto (3 nights).
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Day 11: Osaka or Himeji (May 4) Route: Kyoto → Osaka (~1 h) or Himeji (~1 h 30).
Option 1: Osaka → modern vibe, street food, castle. Option 2: Himeji → stunning UNESCO-listed castle. Stay: Osaka.
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Days 12–13: Kanazawa (May 5–6) Route: Osaka → Kanazawa (~4 h 30).
Activities: Kenroku-en Garden (gorgeous in spring), Omicho Market, samurai district. Stay: Kanazawa.
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Days 14–15: Northern Japan – Aomori / Hirosaki (May 7–8) Route: Kanazawa → Aomori (~7 h, possible to break via Sendai).
Activities: Hirosaki Castle Park (peak bloom early May). Northern onsen (e.g., Sukayu). Stay: Hirosaki or Aomori.
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Days 16–17: Nikko (May 9–10) Route: Aomori → Nikko (~6 h).
Activities: Toshogu Shrine, Kegon Falls, Lake Chuzenji. Stay: Nikko.
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Day 18: Return to Tokyo & Relax in Kamakura (May 11–12) Route: Nikko → Kamakura (~3 h) → Tokyo (~1 h).
Activities: Great Buddha, Zen temples, seaside at Enoshima. Final night: Tokyo before the return flight.
Thanks in advance for your feedback!
hi! Is it easy to use for paying for all the small purchases at the markets? INSTALLATION AND USE WITHOUT ISSUES—do you also need a VPN for China?
Secondly, for using phone and internet, I have Orange—is it reliable, or should I go with Airalo instead?
Hi there,
The info I found on the forum is a bit outdated, so I’m asking again!
1) What budget should I plan for 15 days, given that hotels with breakfast, transfers, and transport are already paid for? I know it depends on the person, but I’d love a rough idea. For meals, we’re thinking simple street food or small local restaurants.
2) I’ve heard that credit cards (we each have a Revolut + 1 Visa Premier) aren’t widely used and that it’s better to have cash. Can you confirm?
3) Are foreign credit cards still not accepted at bank ATMs? Still 7-Eleven or the Post Office? And what about American Express?
Thanks in advance, Best regards
The info I found on the forum is a bit outdated, so I’m asking again!
1) What budget should I plan for 15 days, given that hotels with breakfast, transfers, and transport are already paid for? I know it depends on the person, but I’d love a rough idea. For meals, we’re thinking simple street food or small local restaurants.
2) I’ve heard that credit cards (we each have a Revolut + 1 Visa Premier) aren’t widely used and that it’s better to have cash. Can you confirm?
3) Are foreign credit cards still not accepted at bank ATMs? Still 7-Eleven or the Post Office? And what about American Express?
Thanks in advance, Best regards
I'm planning a 19-day itinerary in Japan this summer.
For a first trip, Kyoto seems like a must. For the rest, I'm torn between:
- Matsumoto, Takayama, Kanazawa for 5 to 6 days
- Kyoto 4 days
- Nara 2 days
- Koyasan 1 day
- Hakone/Mount Fuji 2 to 3 days
- Tokyo 3 days
Or dedicating the first 6 days to Kyushu.
Maybe there’s less traditional Japan in Kyushu compared to the Japanese Alps? Maybe Kyushu is less crowded? Thanks for your thoughts!
Or dedicating the first 6 days to Kyushu.
Maybe there’s less traditional Japan in Kyushu compared to the Japanese Alps? Maybe Kyushu is less crowded? Thanks for your thoughts!
