Est-il vraiment possible de faire le tour du monde?
by Marie9483
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Bonjour à tous,
Je m'appelle Marie j'ai 17 ans et je rêve depuis longtemps de voyager, découvrir des paysages exceptionnels loin des sentiers battus. Partir à l'aventure avec mon sac à dos et rencontrer les locaux, si je pouvais je ne ferais que ça toute ma vie ! Mais plus je grandis plus je me rend compte que tout ça semble bien difficile à réaliser, et pourtant je vois souvent sur les réseaux sociaux et même sur ce forum pas mal de monde qui voyage presque sans s'arrêter. Je me demande donc comment est-ce possible.
Tout d'abord niveau budget, rien que le billet d'avion est cher, et puis si on veut partir longtemps même en économisant avec des nuits sous la tente etc, cela revient très cher. J'économise petit à petit pour l'instant c'est plutôt simple puisque je vis chez mes parents, mais plus tard avec toutes les charges, ça devient rapidement compliqué.
Ensuite comment faites-vous pour trouver le temps ? Personnellement je dois d'abord boucler mes études ce qui prend bcp de temps. Et ensuite qd je travaillerais, et si j'ai une famille des enfants... tout ça sera aussi assez difficile. J'ai l'impression qu'aucun moment ne sera le bon !
Enfin, je n'ose pas partir seule et voyager en petit groupe (min 2) serait parfait mais bcp de monde aujourd'hui préfère aller au club med ou un endroit de ce style sans faire le moindre effort... Enfin c'est le cas de bcp de mes amis et je suis un peu embêtée, peu de personnes de mon entourage ont ma motivation et mon désir d'aventure et pourtant j'aimerais tellement concrétiser un voyage bientôt. Il était prévu que je parte avec des amis cet été pour découvrir l'Europe et surtout ses paysages, j'étais la plus heureuse du monde mais le projet est tombé à l'eau et cela ne me rassure pas, j'ai l'impression que je ne pourrais jamais partir.
Voilà merci à tous ceux qui auront lu mon roman, et ceux qui passent leur temps à voyager, révélez moi votre secret !
bonjour Marie
c'est un beau rêve que le tien, mais ne sois pas trop pressée, profite de découvrir les blogs des voyageurs pour t'en inspirer, j'ai souvent rencontré sur la route des bourlingueurs du tour du monde qui parviennent à trouver des petits jobs pour pouvoir continuer leur voyage..
https://www.votretourdumonde.com/
Tu peux aussi faire du helpx ou du wwoofing et ainsi économiser sur le budget logement/nourriture,
faire du bateau stop, du covoiturage, mais question situation géopolitique, visas et vaccins renseigne toi bien avant de prendre la poudre d'escampette..
si tu le peux vas au festival des étonnants voyageurs à St Malo du 19 au 21 mai prochain,
il y a aussi
https://voyagesetvagabondages.com/faire-le-tour-du-monde-bilan/
https://oiseaurose.com/preparer-un-tour-du-monde/
Merci bcp de ta réponse et oui c'est vrai je suis peut-être un peu trop pressée mais je me dis toujours que plus tard ça sera encore plus compliqué 😄
Enfin bref, tu as mis le site bruno maltor je le connais j'adore ce qu'il fait, c'est notamment à lui que je pensais en écrivant mon message :) et merci pr les autres infos
Bonsoir,
Marie étudie quoi et a quels projets professionnels ? Certains choix sont plus adaptés à des vies de voyages ...
Michel
Bonjour à tous, Je m'appelle Marie j'ai 17 ans et je rêve depuis longtemps de voyager, découvrir des paysages exceptionnels loin des sentiers battus. Partir à l'aventure avec mon sac à dos et rencontrer les locaux, si je pouvais je ne ferais que ça toute ma vie ! Mais plus je grandis plus je me rend compte que tout ça semble bien difficile à réaliser, et pourtant je vois souvent sur les réseaux sociaux et même sur ce forum pas mal de monde qui voyage presque sans s'arrêter. Je me demande donc comment est-ce possible. Tout d'abord niveau budget, rien que le billet d'avion est cher, et puis si on veut partir longtemps même en économisant avec des nuits sous la tente etc, cela revient très cher. J'économise petit à petit pour l'instant c'est plutôt simple puisque je vis chez mes parents, mais plus tard avec toutes les charges, ça devient rapidement compliqué. Ensuite comment faites-vous pour trouver le temps ? Personnellement je dois d'abord boucler mes études ce qui prend bcp de temps. Et ensuite qd je travaillerais, et si j'ai une famille des enfants... tout ça sera aussi assez difficile. J'ai l'impression qu'aucun moment ne sera le bon ! Enfin, je n'ose pas partir seule et voyager en petit groupe (min 2) serait parfait mais bcp de monde aujourd'hui préfère aller au club med ou un endroit de ce style sans faire le moindre effort... Enfin c'est le cas de bcp de mes amis et je suis un peu embêtée, peu de personnes de mon entourage ont ma motivation et mon désir d'aventure et pourtant j'aimerais tellement concrétiser un voyage bientôt. Il était prévu que je parte avec des amis cet été pour découvrir l'Europe et surtout ses paysages, j'étais la plus heureuse du monde mais le projet est tombé à l'eau et cela ne me rassure pas, j'ai l'impression que je ne pourrais jamais partir. Voilà merci à tous ceux qui auront lu mon roman, et ceux qui passent leur temps à voyager, révélez moi votre secret !
Marie étudie quoi et a quels projets professionnels ? Certains choix sont plus adaptés à des vies de voyages ...
Michel
Bonjour à tous, Je m'appelle Marie j'ai 17 ans et je rêve depuis longtemps de voyager, découvrir des paysages exceptionnels loin des sentiers battus. Partir à l'aventure avec mon sac à dos et rencontrer les locaux, si je pouvais je ne ferais que ça toute ma vie ! Mais plus je grandis plus je me rend compte que tout ça semble bien difficile à réaliser, et pourtant je vois souvent sur les réseaux sociaux et même sur ce forum pas mal de monde qui voyage presque sans s'arrêter. Je me demande donc comment est-ce possible. Tout d'abord niveau budget, rien que le billet d'avion est cher, et puis si on veut partir longtemps même en économisant avec des nuits sous la tente etc, cela revient très cher. J'économise petit à petit pour l'instant c'est plutôt simple puisque je vis chez mes parents, mais plus tard avec toutes les charges, ça devient rapidement compliqué. Ensuite comment faites-vous pour trouver le temps ? Personnellement je dois d'abord boucler mes études ce qui prend bcp de temps. Et ensuite qd je travaillerais, et si j'ai une famille des enfants... tout ça sera aussi assez difficile. J'ai l'impression qu'aucun moment ne sera le bon ! Enfin, je n'ose pas partir seule et voyager en petit groupe (min 2) serait parfait mais bcp de monde aujourd'hui préfère aller au club med ou un endroit de ce style sans faire le moindre effort... Enfin c'est le cas de bcp de mes amis et je suis un peu embêtée, peu de personnes de mon entourage ont ma motivation et mon désir d'aventure et pourtant j'aimerais tellement concrétiser un voyage bientôt. Il était prévu que je parte avec des amis cet été pour découvrir l'Europe et surtout ses paysages, j'étais la plus heureuse du monde mais le projet est tombé à l'eau et cela ne me rassure pas, j'ai l'impression que je ne pourrais jamais partir. Voilà merci à tous ceux qui auront lu mon roman, et ceux qui passent leur temps à voyager, révélez moi votre secret !
Faites quelque chose avec des stages longs à l'étranger, ou des Erasmus.
Ou un métier utile, infirmière ou dans l'hôtellerie restauration.
Parfois on ne revient pas.
Michel
Je vais surement faire une école de commerce ou sciences po tout dépend de où est ce que je suis prise mais avec les deux formations, je pense pouvoir trouver un travail me permettant de voyager. Je n'ai pas d'idée précise de métier pour le moment :)
Michel
Je vais surement faire une école de commerce ou sciences po tout dépend de où est ce que je suis prise mais avec les deux formations, je pense pouvoir trouver un travail me permettant de voyager. Je n'ai pas d'idée précise de métier pour le moment :)
un bagage comme science po, ça vaut le coup !!!
... pour faire quoi ?
... pour faire quoi ?
Bonjour Marie,
t'es trop mignonne du haut de tes 17 ans.🙂
tu sembles assez mûre pour ton âge.
Pour les voyages il n'y a pas vraiment de secret.
Certaines personnes n'ont pas d'emploi stable par choix , ils travaillent en interim pendant X temps, puis voyagent X temps.
D'autres ont la chance d'avoir les vacances scolaires ( les professeurs et le personnel des établissements scolaires).
Il y a aussi les commerciaux qui sont souvent amenés à travailler , les hommes d'affaires....
Les gens qui sont à leur compte, qui sont leur propre patron , peuvent prendre la liberté de voyager quand ils veulent.
Il y a toute une panoplie de métiers qui permettent de vivre la passion du voyage.
Je te conseille de commencer au fur et à mesure, pendant les vacances scolaires, tu visites quelques pays d'Europe par ci par là.
Tu vas y prendre goût et tu dépenseras ton argent uniquement pour les voyages.
t'es trop mignonne du haut de tes 17 ans.🙂
tu sembles assez mûre pour ton âge.
Pour les voyages il n'y a pas vraiment de secret.
Certaines personnes n'ont pas d'emploi stable par choix , ils travaillent en interim pendant X temps, puis voyagent X temps.
D'autres ont la chance d'avoir les vacances scolaires ( les professeurs et le personnel des établissements scolaires).
Il y a aussi les commerciaux qui sont souvent amenés à travailler , les hommes d'affaires....
Les gens qui sont à leur compte, qui sont leur propre patron , peuvent prendre la liberté de voyager quand ils veulent.
Il y a toute une panoplie de métiers qui permettent de vivre la passion du voyage.
Je te conseille de commencer au fur et à mesure, pendant les vacances scolaires, tu visites quelques pays d'Europe par ci par là.
Tu vas y prendre goût et tu dépenseras ton argent uniquement pour les voyages.
Ah oui c'est vrai qu'avec tous les métiers que tu me cites ça me remonte le moral ! Et pour l'argent oui t'inquiètes pas j'économise déjà et je compte continuer. Mais bon déjà trouver le temps + l'argent c'est pas facile ... j'espère vraiment que quand je serais plus âgée j'aurais plein de souvenirs à raconter
si tu fais ton tour du monde, n'oublie pas la Mauritanie... J'espère bien t'y rencontrer, là bas le temps s'arrête.. et tu auras des histoires incroyables à raconter, mais je pense, que déjà, tu peux commencer à les écrire, car partout où passe/ra/s je suis certaine que déjà il y a une histoire... Rêve !! et réalise tes rêves...😉 fais attention aux souvenirs, écris, écris avant que les souvenirs ne s'envolent loin de toi..
Science po, c est pour faire de la politique ou autres trucs du systeme non ?
Pas trop l esprit du voyage "boheme ou naturel,
Cela dit pour certains le fric et les affaires restent plus important que la Terre,
Et ca leur facilite le confort et l accumulation de voyages touristes (meme si a mon sens, le petrole et la pollution produite par les avions and co, et tout ce systeme n est pas viable, ni tenable longtemps). Au mieux tu pourras traverser les mers en canoe ou a la voile, c est plus sain et juste 😉
Bonjour,
Je m'appelle Marie j'ai 17 ans et je rêve depuis longtemps de voyager, découvrir des paysages exceptionnels loin des sentiers battus. Partir à l'aventure avec mon sac à dos et rencontrer les locaux, si je pouvais je ne ferais que ça toute ma vie ! Mais plus je grandis plus je me rend compte que tout ça semble bien difficile à réaliser, et pourtant je vois souvent sur les réseaux sociaux et même sur ce forum pas mal de monde qui voyage presque sans s'arrêter. Je me demande donc comment est-ce possible.
Si tu es un peu douée en math physique( Bac S) et que tu te débrouilles en Anglais il existe un concours ( niveau math sup) pour entrer dans l'aviation civile et y exercer un métier bien payé ( plus que l'enseignement supérieur) où tu auras autant de temps libre voire plus que dans l'enseignement surtout si tu prends une bonne partie de tes congés en hiver. Possibilité d'obtenir aussi des billets d'avion à petit prix. Possibilité également de passer gratuitement ton brevet de pilote privé VFR. Au cas où ça t'intéresse je te donne les infos en MP
Ensuite comment faites-vous pour trouver le temps ? Personnellement je dois d'abord boucler mes études ce qui prend bcp de temps. Et ensuite qd je travaillerais, et si j'ai une famille des enfants... tout ça sera aussi assez difficile. J'ai l'impression qu'aucun moment ne sera le bon !
Rien ne t'empêchera d'emmener ta famille en voyage avec toi. Tu auras plus de temps libre que ton conjoint et tes enfants!
peu de personnes de mon entourage ont ma motivation et mon désir d'aventure et pourtant j'aimerais tellement concrétiser un voyage bientôt. Il était prévu que je parte avec des amis cet été pour découvrir l'Europe et surtout ses paysages, j'étais la plus heureuse du monde mais le projet est tombé à l'eau et cela ne me rassure pas, j'ai l'impression que je ne pourrais jamais partir.
Quand on est vraiment motivé pour un projet on y arrive toujours.
Je n'avais pas 20 ans quand un de mes amis m'avait parlé de son projet de partir pour l'Inde par la route.Nous devions faire le voyage ensemble or , peu de temps avant le départ il s'est désisté. je suis donc parti seul sur les routes de l'Asie de Paris à Kathmandu pendant 7 mois et demi avec seulement 3 mois de smic en poche.
Je m'appelle Marie j'ai 17 ans et je rêve depuis longtemps de voyager, découvrir des paysages exceptionnels loin des sentiers battus. Partir à l'aventure avec mon sac à dos et rencontrer les locaux, si je pouvais je ne ferais que ça toute ma vie ! Mais plus je grandis plus je me rend compte que tout ça semble bien difficile à réaliser, et pourtant je vois souvent sur les réseaux sociaux et même sur ce forum pas mal de monde qui voyage presque sans s'arrêter. Je me demande donc comment est-ce possible.
Si tu es un peu douée en math physique( Bac S) et que tu te débrouilles en Anglais il existe un concours ( niveau math sup) pour entrer dans l'aviation civile et y exercer un métier bien payé ( plus que l'enseignement supérieur) où tu auras autant de temps libre voire plus que dans l'enseignement surtout si tu prends une bonne partie de tes congés en hiver. Possibilité d'obtenir aussi des billets d'avion à petit prix. Possibilité également de passer gratuitement ton brevet de pilote privé VFR. Au cas où ça t'intéresse je te donne les infos en MP
Ensuite comment faites-vous pour trouver le temps ? Personnellement je dois d'abord boucler mes études ce qui prend bcp de temps. Et ensuite qd je travaillerais, et si j'ai une famille des enfants... tout ça sera aussi assez difficile. J'ai l'impression qu'aucun moment ne sera le bon !
Rien ne t'empêchera d'emmener ta famille en voyage avec toi. Tu auras plus de temps libre que ton conjoint et tes enfants!
peu de personnes de mon entourage ont ma motivation et mon désir d'aventure et pourtant j'aimerais tellement concrétiser un voyage bientôt. Il était prévu que je parte avec des amis cet été pour découvrir l'Europe et surtout ses paysages, j'étais la plus heureuse du monde mais le projet est tombé à l'eau et cela ne me rassure pas, j'ai l'impression que je ne pourrais jamais partir.
Quand on est vraiment motivé pour un projet on y arrive toujours.
Je n'avais pas 20 ans quand un de mes amis m'avait parlé de son projet de partir pour l'Inde par la route.Nous devions faire le voyage ensemble or , peu de temps avant le départ il s'est désisté. je suis donc parti seul sur les routes de l'Asie de Paris à Kathmandu pendant 7 mois et demi avec seulement 3 mois de smic en poche.
Dis moi, pourrait on envisager la même aventure Paris Katmandou en stop à l'heure actuelle ?
Un seul pays semble poser problème :Le Pakistan. Je l'avais fait ainsi: Grèce Turquie Iran Afghanistan Pakistan Inde Nepal. On peut éviter de passer en Afghanistan mais on ne peut pas éviter le Pakistan, pays où le visa serait difficile à obtenir et où la sécurité ne serait pas vraiment assurée. Sinon on peut passer par La Russie et le Kazakhstan pour entrer en Chine ( ça ne doit pas être évident niveau formalités!) Puis traverser le Tibet ( c'est compliqué , faut recourir à une agence) et du Tibet au Népal.Le tout doit revenir très cher en tous cas! A l'époque en Turquie / Iran mais surtout en Afghanistan Pakistan Inde Népal le coût de la vie ( mode routard) était très bas en comparaison à ce qu'il est de nos jours.
Un seul pays semble poser problème :Le Pakistan. Je l'avais fait ainsi: Grèce Turquie Iran Afghanistan Pakistan Inde Nepal. On peut éviter de passer en Afghanistan mais on ne peut pas éviter le Pakistan, pays où le visa serait difficile à obtenir et où la sécurité ne serait pas vraiment assurée. Sinon on peut passer par La Russie et le Kazakhstan pour entrer en Chine ( ça ne doit pas être évident niveau formalités!) Puis traverser le Tibet ( c'est compliqué , faut recourir à une agence) et du Tibet au Népal.Le tout doit revenir très cher en tous cas! A l'époque en Turquie / Iran mais surtout en Afghanistan Pakistan Inde Népal le coût de la vie ( mode routard) était très bas en comparaison à ce qu'il est de nos jours.
quel aventurier...
Non la vraie aventure ça a été plus tard.Paris Kathmandu c'était en fait un voyage assez conformiste.Je suivais un parcours "classique" que d'autres que moi avaient déjà suivi. On voyageait de ville en ville suivant des étapes déterminées et les routards se retrouvaient souvent dans les mêmes villes. Seule différence avec aujourd'hui il n'existait pas de guides papier ni bien sûr de forum de voyage, seul fonctionnait le bouche à oreille. Un an plus tard je suivais un tout autre objectif :La rencontre des peuples les plus isolés de la planète ( en pays tropical jamais dans les pays froids!) Là ça commençait sur le toit d'un camion et ça finissait à pied en brousse sur plusieurs jours avec bivouac à la belle étoile et sans rencontrer d'européens ni parfois d'autochtones avant d'aborder un premier village. PS: Pour un Paris Kathmandu le déplacement en" stop" s'arrête avec l'Europe et une partie de la Turquie au delà il ne faut pas y compter.
Non la vraie aventure ça a été plus tard.Paris Kathmandu c'était en fait un voyage assez conformiste.Je suivais un parcours "classique" que d'autres que moi avaient déjà suivi. On voyageait de ville en ville suivant des étapes déterminées et les routards se retrouvaient souvent dans les mêmes villes. Seule différence avec aujourd'hui il n'existait pas de guides papier ni bien sûr de forum de voyage, seul fonctionnait le bouche à oreille. Un an plus tard je suivais un tout autre objectif :La rencontre des peuples les plus isolés de la planète ( en pays tropical jamais dans les pays froids!) Là ça commençait sur le toit d'un camion et ça finissait à pied en brousse sur plusieurs jours avec bivouac à la belle étoile et sans rencontrer d'européens ni parfois d'autochtones avant d'aborder un premier village. PS: Pour un Paris Kathmandu le déplacement en" stop" s'arrête avec l'Europe et une partie de la Turquie au delà il ne faut pas y compter.
OH ! as tu rencontré Lévi Strauss ? même pas ?
Non jamais mais déjà au lycée sa "Pensée sauvage" m'avait inspirée https://www.amazon.fr/pens%C3%A9e-sauvage-Claude-L%C3%A9vi-Strauss/dp/2266038168
Non jamais mais déjà au lycée sa "Pensée sauvage" m'avait inspirée https://www.amazon.fr/pens%C3%A9e-sauvage-Claude-L%C3%A9vi-Strauss/dp/2266038168
oh merci pour cette référence, je ne l'ai pas encore lue !!!
je boycotte Amazone, mais au moins j'ai une raison de revenir dans mon bled et de revoir ma libraire..😉
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TfPfIFTeiE
Je me demande quelle fut l'incidence sur la vie des "tribus" (sages, riches en connaissances, ) des séjours de LS au seil de leur communautés..
yallah, c'est l'heure du henné chez mes copines berberes, je vais leur offrir le henné des oasis mauritaniens, on va s'en mettre plein les mains, en écoutant sur leur mp3 leur musique traditionnelle,
je file🙂
Je me demande quelle fut l'incidence sur la vie des "tribus" (sages, riches en connaissances, ) des séjours de LS au seil de leur communautés..
A peu près la même incidence que produirait un Inuit ou un touareg qui viendrait s'installer dans un village de l'Ariège. Il susciterait de la curiosité et de l'étonnement de la part des gens du village sans vraiment modifier le comportement ni les habitudes de ceux-ci. Mais imaginons qu'on fasse venir dans ce même village une bonne centaine d' émigrés soudanais ...pas certains qu'ils seraient très bien accueillis et que les idées hospitalières de certains villageois ne se trouvent modifiées..
A peu près la même incidence que produirait un Inuit ou un touareg qui viendrait s'installer dans un village de l'Ariège. Il susciterait de la curiosité et de l'étonnement de la part des gens du village sans vraiment modifier le comportement ni les habitudes de ceux-ci. Mais imaginons qu'on fasse venir dans ce même village une bonne centaine d' émigrés soudanais ...pas certains qu'ils seraient très bien accueillis et que les idées hospitalières de certains villageois ne se trouvent modifiées..
bonjour
il fut un temps ou il était possible de faire vraiment le tour du monde !
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andr%C3%A9_Brugiroux
si vous avez l'occasion d'aller écouter André dans une de ses conférences vous serez bluffé !
de plus il a un tel humour , c'est un vrai bonheur !
francia
le mérite d'un homme réside dans sa connaissance et dans ses actes et non point dans la couleur de sa peau ou de sa religion!
Khalil Gibran
Non pas forcément de la politique, certes ça s'appelle sciences po mais on étudie bien d'autres choses que les sciences politiques. C'est une école qui ouvre à plein de possibilités notamment le journalisme et les relations internationales, qui peuvent me mener à voyager plus tard (enfin j'espère peut-être !😛)
Je ne fais pas de bac ES, je suis pas très douée dans les matières scientifiques alors je suis pas prête pour faire math sup 😄 mais merci c'est vraiment une proposition intéressante
Et bravo ! Avoir le courage de se lancer dans ton voyage n'est pas donné à tout le monde, mais je serais pas très rassurée de faire ça seule, pour les filles c'est plus compliqué je trouve...
Pour ma part, je n'ai pas fait le tour du monde mais je suis prof alors j'ai du temps pour voyager 🙂
Mon espace web : http://www.world-blogueur.com
Spéciale déconfinement https://voyageforum.com/discussion/enfin-libres-entre-rivieres-fleuves-canaux-velo-fil-eau-entre-seine-loire-d10299732/
ahah !
dans mon bled ils votent pour qui tu imagines, mais mes potes tuaregues et maures adorent ma cabane et ça fait jaser dans les bistrots quand ils débarquent (ahah. Donc oui, tu as raison, pas la peine d'imaginer des migrants chez moi, j'ai pourtant essayé..😕 mais franchement, c'est mieux de l'autre côté de la Méditerranée...
hospitaliers ? en Ariège ? euh....... 😐
une amie de mes filles est partie en solo faire un tour du monde , mais après ses études (école de commerce).
partie deux ans. elle a bossé dans les pays où cela a été possible, et a fait beaucoup la fête dans les autres 😉. Elle a ensuite trouvé un très bon job en Nouvelle Zélande, un an, est revenue en France, est repartie bosser à Londres et maintenant travaille en France ..... dans une agence de voyage genre grand luxe. Autant dire qu'elle continue de voyager 🙂
je pense que c'est une expérience formidable.
je pense que c'est une expérience formidable.
bonjour dans ma famille c'est mes neveux et nièces qui sont voyageurs !
ils sont partis ensemble un an en Australie en Working Holiday , de l'Australie , ils ont pu voyager en Asie facilement (Thailande , Sri-Lanka , Vietnam , Cambodge , Malaisie )...
Mon neveu à pu repartir une deuxième année en Australie et à la fin de son séjour il est allé aux USA et aux Antilles !
Puis à nouveau 1 visa d'1 an en Nouvelle Zélande
il vient de rentrer
et chance il vient d'avoir 1 visa pour le Canada (tirage au sort )
il n'a pas de diplome , seulement le bac mais travaille dans le TP et la il trouve toujours du travail !
ma nièce , elle travaille comme réceptionniste dans des hôtels ...après bien des périples , elle vient de se poser à Londres ...jusqu'au prochain voyage !😏
elle trouve Londres génial mais bien trop pluvieux ...
en tout cas ils ont fait des rencontres magnifiques , ils ont des potes partout dans le monde et plein de points de chute pour continuer à visiter la planète !
28 et 30 ans ...
c'est vrai qu'ils ont la chance au retour de retrouver la famille ...mais c'est quand même de belles aventures !
francia
le mérite d'un homme réside dans sa connaissance et dans ses actes et non point dans la couleur de sa peau ou de sa religion!
Khalil Gibran
oui, je trouve aussi que ce sont de belles aventures, d'une richesse pas possible. Comme tu dis, des amis et des points de chute partout dans le monde, la pratique ++ des langues (anglais et espagnol surtout pour cette jeune femme), des expériences professionnelles et tout simplement humaines très denses .... ça donne un fort potentiel pour le reste de sa vie.
j'encourage toujours.🙂
oui, la terre n'est qu'un pays..
Dans l absolu oui. Dans la realité, malheureusement, pas pour tout le monde . Tu sais pour qui la terre est surtout "un seul pays" ? Pour les oxydants tõt avant tout qui ont oxydé le monde avec le colonialisme avant d y repandre le capitalisme mondialisé, et le tourisme de masse (neo colonialisme actuel). Autrement dit pour les friqués qui ont un "pouvoir d achat et des privileges que n ont pas ou plus rarement beaucoup de peuples et gens modestes de pays divers. Va demander a beaucoup de vietnamiens, ougandais, Aborigenes australiens (vrais australiens , massacrés pour la reine des connes d angleterre pour que les occidentaux aillent s y repandre , idem pour les Amerindiens du canada, vrais Canadiens, ceux des usa, caraibes, Maori de NZ, )ou autres cambodgien, indiens, etc, s ils peuvent se payer des working visa ou meme des visa tout court. La plupart te diront surement non, ou tres peu comparés aux descendants des consquisadorent 😉 Mais la terre mere ne le supportera plus longtemps, hugh ; )
Dans l absolu oui. Dans la realité, malheureusement, pas pour tout le monde . Tu sais pour qui la terre est surtout "un seul pays" ? Pour les oxydants tõt avant tout qui ont oxydé le monde avec le colonialisme avant d y repandre le capitalisme mondialisé, et le tourisme de masse (neo colonialisme actuel). Autrement dit pour les friqués qui ont un "pouvoir d achat et des privileges que n ont pas ou plus rarement beaucoup de peuples et gens modestes de pays divers. Va demander a beaucoup de vietnamiens, ougandais, Aborigenes australiens (vrais australiens , massacrés pour la reine des connes d angleterre pour que les occidentaux aillent s y repandre , idem pour les Amerindiens du canada, vrais Canadiens, ceux des usa, caraibes, Maori de NZ, )ou autres cambodgien, indiens, etc, s ils peuvent se payer des working visa ou meme des visa tout court. La plupart te diront surement non, ou tres peu comparés aux descendants des consquisadorent 😉 Mais la terre mere ne le supportera plus longtemps, hugh ; )
Il ne sentirait pas un peu le moisi, ton discours ? 🙂
eh ... M. Paladin, j'ai reçu un message céleste pour toi !
Comme je ne comprends pas tout ... je préfère te le délivrer en l'état, dans son jus :
latableronde.over-blog.com/...terre-mere-gaia.html
Comme je ne comprends pas tout ... je préfère te le délivrer en l'état, dans son jus :
latableronde.over-blog.com/...terre-mere-gaia.html
Bonjour Marie !
On peut toujours voyager loin et pas cher, pour te faire une idée consulte sur ce forum la rubrique " voyager à vélo " et tu verras de grands globe-trotters partir très loin avec des budgets limités.
Voir aussi : www.expemag.com , tu trouveras plein de témoignages et de conseils sur les voyages lointains non motorisés.
Bon alors, tu en es où de ton projet Marie?
Alors là je reviens d'un fabuleux voyage au Cameroun !
J'y ai passé un mois cet été avec 4 amis avec des scouts locaux ! C'était incroyable. Je pense que j'ai ressenti en un mois une dose d'émotion que je ressentirais en 1 an normalement !
Les vendeurs ambulants, les motos taxi, le vin de palme, les plantins, les mout mouts, les virées en pyrogue, en taxi-brousse, ou à 11 dans une voiture pour 5, cette musique au rythme si différent, les "salut la blanche", les enfants seuls sur le bord de la route qui portent des œufs ou de l'huile sur la tête avec une habileté déconcertante, la malarone quotidienne, les allers retours à la source pour aller chercher de l'eau, les danses, le corrosol, les baignades dans la mer chaude de Kribi, les bières 33, ces sourires chaleureux, la terre rouge, la nature abondante… et tant de choses que j'oublie mais qui me manquent terriblement !
J'ai aussi découvert des manières bien différentes de penser dans un pays où le président est au pouvoir depuis plus de 30 ans, où l'homosexualité est interdite, où la femme n'a pas vraiment son mot à dire et où les chefferies dans les villages ont toujours leur importance (un chef peut avoir autant de femmes qu'il veut, il n'a jamais moins de 2 femmes…!).
Je pourrais parler des heures et des heures de ce voyage qui a tellement changé aussi ma vision des choses, ça m'a donné encore plus envie de voyager !!
Si d'autres sont partis au Cameroun, je serai ravie d'échanger.
Bref mon projet ne fait que commencer !
Bref mon projet ne fait que commencer !
Si d'autres sont partis au Cameroun, je serai ravie d'échanger.
Deux endroits magiques ( pour moi): Rhumsiki dans l'extrême nord ouest à la frontière du Nigéria pays des Kapsiki animistes mais c'était en 1979! Je crois que de nos jours il vaut mieux éviter cette région! Et aussi Kribi (extrême sud) et la rivière Lobé à la rencontre des pygmées.. (Je viens de lire que tu étais allée à Kribi) Le Cameroun a été le pays d'Afrique que j'ai préféré ( Afrique de l'ouest et du centre)
Deux endroits magiques ( pour moi): Rhumsiki dans l'extrême nord ouest à la frontière du Nigéria pays des Kapsiki animistes mais c'était en 1979! Je crois que de nos jours il vaut mieux éviter cette région! Et aussi Kribi (extrême sud) et la rivière Lobé à la rencontre des pygmées.. (Je viens de lire que tu étais allée à Kribi) Le Cameroun a été le pays d'Afrique que j'ai préféré ( Afrique de l'ouest et du centre)
Oui malheureusement nous avons été très limités dans notre découverte du pays avec les événements actuels et la carte du ministère des affaires étrangères qui affichait toute la zone anglophone rouge quelques semaines avant notre départ !
Nous n'avons donc pas pu aller dans le nord !
Nous étions durant la quasi-totalité du séjour dans un village aux alentours de Lolodorf puis vers la fin nous avons passé quelques jours à Kribi et avons également rencontré les pygmées. Nous n'avons cependant pas vraiment apprécié ce moment où nous avions l'impression d'entrer dans un musée humain; sans compter les poches en plastique vides d'alcool qui jonchaient le sol tous les mètres. Je ne sais pas si elles appartenaient aux pygmées mais c'était assez déconcertant.
Bref, nous en avons conclu que la meilleure façon de découvrir un village camerounais n'était pas de le "visiter" mais d'y vivre, ce que nous avons eu la chance de faire les 3 semaines précédentes, et c'était fabuleux.
Nous n'avons donc pas pu aller dans le nord !
Il y a tellement à voir ailleurs...Le Cameroun est très varié niveau paysages et populations .Je ne suis allé que dans le nord grâce à l'avion.Garoua Maroua puis Mokolo dans la benne d'un camion puis Rhumsiki à pied et les villages Kapsiki et Kirdis.J'ai passé plusieurs jours dans un de ces villages puis avec mon hôte nous sommes partis toujours à pied pour aller dans un village du Nigéria afind' assister à un mariage sans savoir que j'avais franchi une frontière.Le chef du village m'avait offert un Kobo symbolique ( monnaie du pays) j'y ai bu durant la cérémonie de la bière de mil dans des calebasses lèvre contre lèvre avec mon voisin ( pas trop agréable cette expérience!) et le soir ce fut un repas de fête :tête de chèvre très faisandée heureusement fortement pimentée.
nous avons passé quelques jours à Kribi et avons également rencontré les pygmées. Nous n'avons cependant pas vraiment apprécié ce moment où nous avions l'impression d'entrer dans un musée humain; sans compter les poches en plastique vides d'alcool qui jonchaient le sol tous les mètres. Je ne sais pas si elles appartenaient aux pygmées mais c'était assez déconcertant.
J'y suis passé très rapidement j'ai bien aimé la chute d'eau qui plonge directement dans la mer... Avec un pseudo guide local nous avons remonté la Lobé en pirogue pour aller dans un village pygmée...ça a dû beaucoup changer depuis cette époque.
Il y a tellement à voir ailleurs...Le Cameroun est très varié niveau paysages et populations .Je ne suis allé que dans le nord grâce à l'avion.Garoua Maroua puis Mokolo dans la benne d'un camion puis Rhumsiki à pied et les villages Kapsiki et Kirdis.J'ai passé plusieurs jours dans un de ces villages puis avec mon hôte nous sommes partis toujours à pied pour aller dans un village du Nigéria afind' assister à un mariage sans savoir que j'avais franchi une frontière.Le chef du village m'avait offert un Kobo symbolique ( monnaie du pays) j'y ai bu durant la cérémonie de la bière de mil dans des calebasses lèvre contre lèvre avec mon voisin ( pas trop agréable cette expérience!) et le soir ce fut un repas de fête :tête de chèvre très faisandée heureusement fortement pimentée.
nous avons passé quelques jours à Kribi et avons également rencontré les pygmées. Nous n'avons cependant pas vraiment apprécié ce moment où nous avions l'impression d'entrer dans un musée humain; sans compter les poches en plastique vides d'alcool qui jonchaient le sol tous les mètres. Je ne sais pas si elles appartenaient aux pygmées mais c'était assez déconcertant.
J'y suis passé très rapidement j'ai bien aimé la chute d'eau qui plonge directement dans la mer... Avec un pseudo guide local nous avons remonté la Lobé en pirogue pour aller dans un village pygmée...ça a dû beaucoup changer depuis cette époque.
Il y a tellement à voir ailleurs...Le Cameroun est très varié niveau paysages et populations .Je ne suis allé que dans le nord grâce à l'avion.Garoua Maroua puis Mokolo dans la benne d'un camion puis Rhumsiki à pied et les villages Kapsiki et Kirdis.J'ai passé plusieurs jours dans un de ces villages puis avec mon hôte nous sommes partis toujours à pied pour aller dans un village du Nigéria afin d' assister à un mariage sans savoir que j'avais franchi une frontière. Le chef du village m'avait offert un Kobo symbolique ( monnaie du pays) j'y ai bu durant la cérémonie de la bière de mil dans des calebasses lèvre contre lèvre avec mon voisin ( pas trop agréable cette expérience!) et le soir ce fut un repas de fête :tête de chèvre très faisandée heureusement fortement pimentée.
Waouh le mariage ça devait être une belle expérience !! merci de partager tout ça Et les plats pimentés c'est vrai … toujours très fort
Waouh le mariage ça devait être une belle expérience !! merci de partager tout ça Et les plats pimentés c'est vrai … toujours très fort
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Hi everyone, just this once I’m not posting for a travel story, but to share a thought for Venezuela.
If you didn’t know—since it’s not making headlines—the country was hit by two 7.5-magnitude earthquakes last week. Over 2,200 people have died, more than 50,000 are missing, and some coastal towns have been completely destroyed. Maybe when the scale of the humanitarian crisis becomes clear, our media will cover it a bit more... especially since earthquakes with this many casualties usually make the front page, but there’s been nothing in France.
So here’s a thought for this country, which, whatever you think of its politics, is a true jewel of South America, both for its landscapes and its people.
If you didn’t know—since it’s not making headlines—the country was hit by two 7.5-magnitude earthquakes last week. Over 2,200 people have died, more than 50,000 are missing, and some coastal towns have been completely destroyed. Maybe when the scale of the humanitarian crisis becomes clear, our media will cover it a bit more... especially since earthquakes with this many casualties usually make the front page, but there’s been nothing in France.
So here’s a thought for this country, which, whatever you think of its politics, is a true jewel of South America, both for its landscapes and its people.
hi there
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This year, my province has really improved its infrastructure—mountains, countryside, and sea are all authentic here.
No harassers or thieves, and no Russians either.
A local lunch costs around 1 €.
A *** hotel room is about 25 €, and you can find hotels right on My Khe Beach.
We have a specialty: *banh xeo*—10 crepes for just 1.5 €.
You can rent motorbikes to explore the province and maybe visit the many ethnic minorities.
I live here—I’m not selling anything, but I can help if needed (my father-in-law is a traditional Vietnamese doctor and he’s very skilled).
We're planning to spend a month in Vietnam. Is hiring a guide helpful?
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Wherever I go, my compass stays the same: observing and photographing wildlife, which I deeply admire and respect.
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If you:
Are over 20 years old
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Photo: Grizzly Bear (Ursus arctos horribilis), female on the left and her cub on the right. Photo taken by me in Alaska, Denali National Park.
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If you:
Are over 20 years old
Have a true passion for Nature
Have already taken at least one trip lasting more than 3 nights (in your country or abroad) in your life
Then... would you have 5 to 7 minutes to help me by filling out this questionnaire? 🙂 »» https://forms.gle/y74ckkvN9TjrougLA
Promise: I’m not selling anything, this isn’t marketing. Your answers are 100% anonymous and will only help me shape this wild project. A huge thank you to everyone for your help and kindness! Looking forward to chatting in this thread 😛
(Dear admins, this is purely a collaborative effort for my project study, with no commercial purpose. Thank you so much for your support!)
Photo: Grizzly Bear (Ursus arctos horribilis), female on the left and her cub on the right. Photo taken by me in Alaska, Denali National Park.
Hello everyone,
It’s something we often notice in this forum—and many others—this behavioral shift.
A long-time member, or even a new one, asks a question. They get one or more answers, some brief, some detailed, and then... nothing???
Not even a simple thank you!!!
From what I’ve gathered, if the answers don’t align with what they wanted to hear, it seems natural for the asker to just disappear!! 😕 Unless—(and I fear this is the case)—basic politeness is no longer part of our society????
Please forgive my little rant.
Wishing everyone all the best. Cheers,
Puma2A

...
It’s something we often notice in this forum—and many others—this behavioral shift.
A long-time member, or even a new one, asks a question. They get one or more answers, some brief, some detailed, and then... nothing???
Not even a simple thank you!!!
From what I’ve gathered, if the answers don’t align with what they wanted to hear, it seems natural for the asker to just disappear!! 😕 Unless—(and I fear this is the case)—basic politeness is no longer part of our society????
Please forgive my little rant.
Wishing everyone all the best. Cheers,
Puma2A

...
I spent 3 weeks in Bali last summer (+ 3 nights on Gili Meno and a day trip to Kawah Ijen in Java). So I wanted to see what ChatGPT could suggest for comparison...
Here’s the prompt I gave:
"You’re a local expert guide for Bali.
- Plan a 20-day itinerary for Bali with a side trip to Gili Meno and a day trip to Kawah Ijen in Java without staying overnight.
- I’m traveling with my wife, and I love visiting historical sites, hiking, relaxing at the beach, snorkeling, and exploring rice terraces...
- For the duration of the stay, I don’t want more than 8 places to sleep, and I’d like to stay at least 2 days at each stop to avoid unpacking too often. Except for the last night, where I’m okay with just one night near the airport.
- I prefer neighborhoods that are walkable and try to avoid typical tourist traps, though I don’t want to miss the must-see spots. So suggest a mix of iconic sites and hidden gems.
- Recommend hotels or guesthouses with a budget of 50 to 100 € per night, including breakfast. Make suggestions in areas popular with travelers, specifying the vibe (I prefer quiet), and consider safety and proximity to attractions.
- For lunch and dinner, suggest two to three restaurants that are well-rated by customers.
- Give me a day-by-day program with details on travel times, visiting times for each point of interest, and recommendations for transportation (taxi, train, bike, etc.). Estimate the total cost of the trip, including accommodations, food, transportation, and activities, and suggest two tips for saving money in each category.
- Don’t make anything up—be realistic about travel times, take into account the opening dates and hours of sites, and give me the entry fees for places to visit.
- Ask me all the questions until you’re 95% sure you understand what’s being asked. Don’t generate your response until you’ve understood."
The AI asked for a few clarifications:
"Great request—I can build you a really optimized and enjoyable itinerary, but to be 95% sure I hit the mark, I need a few key clarifications (this will really influence the pace, areas, and accommodations)."
In the end, it proposed a program very close to what we actually did. I’ll skip its accommodation and restaurant suggestions...
Its proposal:
"Ubud (4 nights) => we did 5 nights Sidemen (2 nights) Amed (3 nights) => we’d planned 2 nights Gili Meno (3 nights) => we did Gili between Sidemen and Amed Munduk (3 nights) => we did 2 nights before Pemuteran Pemuteran (3 nights) with Ijen => we did 4 nights Sanur (2 nights + 1 last night) => we chose Jatiluwih instead of Sanur
It suggested "activities" (and accommodations too):
IN UBUD: - Walk around central Ubud (1–2h) - Campuhan Ridge Walk - Tegalalang Rice Terrace - Tirta Empul - Gunung Kawi - Massage / market / slow café
IN SIDEMEN: - Rice terrace hike (2–3h) - Cooking class
IN AMED: - Snorkeling - Japanese Shipwreck - Beach + relaxation - Volcano sunset
ON GILI: - Snorkeling at Gili Meno Turtle Point, Nest Underwater Statues
IN MUNDUK: - Jungle & waterfall hike - Munduk Waterfall + Melanting Waterfall - Loop: 3–4h (perfect for your level) - Ulun Danu Bratan Temple - Twin Lakes
IN PEMUTERAN - Snorkeling: Menjangan Island
For Kawah Ijen, it detailed the day well: 👍 from Pemuteran = best possible option 12 PM: leave hotel (we left at 10 PM) 1 PM: ferry 3 PM: arrival in Java + transfer 11 PM: start ascent 2 AM–6 AM: volcano Return to Bali around 11 AM–12 PM (we got back at 4 PM) 👍 still very intense, but doable with an agency 💰 ~80–120 €/person all-inclusive
IN SANUR: - Relaxation - Quiet beach - Proximity to airport (30 min)"
BUDGET: "3,000 – 3,900 € for 2 people" (We paid 3,200 €)
In conclusion, it’s not (yet) enough, but it’s (already) pretty impressive!
Here’s the prompt I gave:
"You’re a local expert guide for Bali.
- Plan a 20-day itinerary for Bali with a side trip to Gili Meno and a day trip to Kawah Ijen in Java without staying overnight.
- I’m traveling with my wife, and I love visiting historical sites, hiking, relaxing at the beach, snorkeling, and exploring rice terraces...
- For the duration of the stay, I don’t want more than 8 places to sleep, and I’d like to stay at least 2 days at each stop to avoid unpacking too often. Except for the last night, where I’m okay with just one night near the airport.
- I prefer neighborhoods that are walkable and try to avoid typical tourist traps, though I don’t want to miss the must-see spots. So suggest a mix of iconic sites and hidden gems.
- Recommend hotels or guesthouses with a budget of 50 to 100 € per night, including breakfast. Make suggestions in areas popular with travelers, specifying the vibe (I prefer quiet), and consider safety and proximity to attractions.
- For lunch and dinner, suggest two to three restaurants that are well-rated by customers.
- Give me a day-by-day program with details on travel times, visiting times for each point of interest, and recommendations for transportation (taxi, train, bike, etc.). Estimate the total cost of the trip, including accommodations, food, transportation, and activities, and suggest two tips for saving money in each category.
- Don’t make anything up—be realistic about travel times, take into account the opening dates and hours of sites, and give me the entry fees for places to visit.
- Ask me all the questions until you’re 95% sure you understand what’s being asked. Don’t generate your response until you’ve understood."
The AI asked for a few clarifications:
"Great request—I can build you a really optimized and enjoyable itinerary, but to be 95% sure I hit the mark, I need a few key clarifications (this will really influence the pace, areas, and accommodations)."
In the end, it proposed a program very close to what we actually did. I’ll skip its accommodation and restaurant suggestions...
Its proposal:
"Ubud (4 nights) => we did 5 nights Sidemen (2 nights) Amed (3 nights) => we’d planned 2 nights Gili Meno (3 nights) => we did Gili between Sidemen and Amed Munduk (3 nights) => we did 2 nights before Pemuteran Pemuteran (3 nights) with Ijen => we did 4 nights Sanur (2 nights + 1 last night) => we chose Jatiluwih instead of Sanur
It suggested "activities" (and accommodations too):
IN UBUD: - Walk around central Ubud (1–2h) - Campuhan Ridge Walk - Tegalalang Rice Terrace - Tirta Empul - Gunung Kawi - Massage / market / slow café
IN SIDEMEN: - Rice terrace hike (2–3h) - Cooking class
IN AMED: - Snorkeling - Japanese Shipwreck - Beach + relaxation - Volcano sunset
ON GILI: - Snorkeling at Gili Meno Turtle Point, Nest Underwater Statues
IN MUNDUK: - Jungle & waterfall hike - Munduk Waterfall + Melanting Waterfall - Loop: 3–4h (perfect for your level) - Ulun Danu Bratan Temple - Twin Lakes
IN PEMUTERAN - Snorkeling: Menjangan Island
For Kawah Ijen, it detailed the day well: 👍 from Pemuteran = best possible option 12 PM: leave hotel (we left at 10 PM) 1 PM: ferry 3 PM: arrival in Java + transfer 11 PM: start ascent 2 AM–6 AM: volcano Return to Bali around 11 AM–12 PM (we got back at 4 PM) 👍 still very intense, but doable with an agency 💰 ~80–120 €/person all-inclusive
IN SANUR: - Relaxation - Quiet beach - Proximity to airport (30 min)"
BUDGET: "3,000 – 3,900 € for 2 people" (We paid 3,200 €)
In conclusion, it’s not (yet) enough, but it’s (already) pretty impressive!
Hello everyone,
I’m sharing the menu posted at the entrance of a bar at the foot of the Porto Tower in Southern Corsica. . .
.
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Greetings and have a great Sunday.
Puma2A . .

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I’m sharing the menu posted at the entrance of a bar at the foot of the Porto Tower in Southern Corsica. . .
.
.Greetings and have a great Sunday.
Puma2A . .

...
I’ve kept the habit of blowing my nose in the sink and then washing my hands—a custom I picked up in India. Sometimes, non-travelers are shocked when they catch me in the act... 🤪
Also, when I run out of toilet paper, it doesn’t bother me—unless I’ve got company over... 🤪
Just got back from walking a friend’s dog (while they’re on vacation), wearing a djellaba and Tibetan boots... 😏😏😏 Oh, for sure, if I’d run into locals, I probably would’ve shocked them? 😏
Anyway, as long as I’m not spitting on the floor at a restaurant or squatting on the side of a highway with a water bottle in hand...
Do you bring back customs from your travels?
Also, when I run out of toilet paper, it doesn’t bother me—unless I’ve got company over... 🤪
Just got back from walking a friend’s dog (while they’re on vacation), wearing a djellaba and Tibetan boots... 😏😏😏 Oh, for sure, if I’d run into locals, I probably would’ve shocked them? 😏
Anyway, as long as I’m not spitting on the floor at a restaurant or squatting on the side of a highway with a water bottle in hand...
Do you bring back customs from your travels?
After taking a little trip around the world, I came back a few months ago with an idea in mind.
I mostly do diving, and I love observing animals in their natural habitat without disturbing them.
During the trip, I realized it was quite complicated to know where and when to see certain species.
For example:
where to dive with sharks or manta rays where you might get a chance to swim with whales
I even discovered thresher sharks during my trip… I didn’t even know this species existed before, even though they’re incredible to see.
We spent a ton of time searching for info all over the place, especially on social media, without ever getting a clear picture.
So I started putting all this together on my own, in the form of a map, to make it easier to visualize where to go depending on the seasons.
I recently put a first version online (it’s called Fauneya). There are probably mistakes, inconsistencies, or things to improve, and that’s partly why I’m posting here.
I’d really love to know how you all go about planning this kind of trip.
I mostly do diving, and I love observing animals in their natural habitat without disturbing them.
During the trip, I realized it was quite complicated to know where and when to see certain species.
For example:
where to dive with sharks or manta rays where you might get a chance to swim with whales
I even discovered thresher sharks during my trip… I didn’t even know this species existed before, even though they’re incredible to see.
We spent a ton of time searching for info all over the place, especially on social media, without ever getting a clear picture.
So I started putting all this together on my own, in the form of a map, to make it easier to visualize where to go depending on the seasons.
I recently put a first version online (it’s called Fauneya). There are probably mistakes, inconsistencies, or things to improve, and that’s partly why I’m posting here.
I’d really love to know how you all go about planning this kind of trip.
As part of my Master’s thesis, I’m currently conducting a public survey on a topic that concerns all of us when planning a trip: artificial intelligence and the role of human contact in travel planning.
These days, we’re using more and more digital tools to find ideas, compare options, and book trips... but is the role of human advisors still essential? At what moments? And for what types of trips?
The survey is anonymous and takes about 7 minutes.
It’s aimed at anyone who travels (or has traveled) for leisure, whether you plan everything yourself or go through an agency.
Survey link: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdkmBzW2QOE3_ZirhmdG8e2LQyaWLJxWUeyTR0LzpC8ytlufQ/viewform
Your response will be a huge help for my work and will contribute to a broader reflection on the future of the travel experience.
Thanks in advance to everyone who takes the time to participate!!
These days, we’re using more and more digital tools to find ideas, compare options, and book trips... but is the role of human advisors still essential? At what moments? And for what types of trips?
The survey is anonymous and takes about 7 minutes.
It’s aimed at anyone who travels (or has traveled) for leisure, whether you plan everything yourself or go through an agency.
Survey link: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdkmBzW2QOE3_ZirhmdG8e2LQyaWLJxWUeyTR0LzpC8ytlufQ/viewform
Your response will be a huge help for my work and will contribute to a broader reflection on the future of the travel experience.
Thanks in advance to everyone who takes the time to participate!!
While browsing the forum to gather info for my upcoming trip to Thailand, I often see the terms "traveler," "great traveler," and also "tourist"—so what’s the nuance for you?
I've traveled quite a bit in Vietnam over the past few years—from the southern delta to bustling cities and even some small islands—but what really sticks with me is the north, the high mountains.
Up there, there's something different—maybe slower, more raw. The morning markets with ethnic groups, women in traditional clothes, the colors...
The stilt houses, kids following you and laughing for no reason, the terraced rice fields—it almost feels unreal at times, so vast and quiet, yet so human and simple.
You often hear that Sapa has become too touristy, and that's partly true, especially in the center. But as soon as you move a little farther away, everything changes quickly. The landscapes open up, encounters feel more natural, and you rediscover something truly authentic.
I think it's that contrast that struck me—the difference between what you imagine before going and what you actually discover when you take the time.
And you—what memory do you hold onto from Vietnam? A particular place that touched you more than others?
Hello,
We’re finalizing the plans for our upcoming trip to China in May 2025. The second-to-last stop will be in Zhangjiajie, where we’ve planned to stay for 2 full days before heading to Shanghai.
We’re traveling solo using local transport and have arranged to stay in the city of Zhangjiajie.
We’ve seen that there’s a lot to see: Tianmen Mountain, the Grand Canyon and the glass bridge, Zhangjiajie National Park, and that the sites are quite far apart with fairly expensive entry fees. We’re thinking of dedicating one day to the national park and the Grand Canyon (glass bridge) and one day to Tianmen Mountain. But we’re not sure if this plan is realistic—any thoughts would be much appreciated!
Do you know if it’s possible to get around on our own, or is it better to go through a local agency or book a package like the one sold by TravelChinaGuide? https://www.travelchinaguide.com/package/zhangjiajie/2days-tour.htm
Thanks in advance for your advice! Alod
We’ve seen that there’s a lot to see: Tianmen Mountain, the Grand Canyon and the glass bridge, Zhangjiajie National Park, and that the sites are quite far apart with fairly expensive entry fees. We’re thinking of dedicating one day to the national park and the Grand Canyon (glass bridge) and one day to Tianmen Mountain. But we’re not sure if this plan is realistic—any thoughts would be much appreciated!
Do you know if it’s possible to get around on our own, or is it better to go through a local agency or book a package like the one sold by TravelChinaGuide? https://www.travelchinaguide.com/package/zhangjiajie/2days-tour.htm
Thanks in advance for your advice! Alod
Hello 🙂
I should be serving a warming drink to the participants in the discussion about gardens and parks that provide us with beautiful photos, I could mention the delicious buttery scent wafting from bakeries in the thread about returning to France, but my heart, its powerful pulse that nourishes my entire being, is elsewhere.
Dasht-e Lut, Yazd, Esfahan, Bam, Kerman, Qeshm, Hormuz—a melody, a prayer at the heart of desire.
A dream, an unattainable fantasy? No. Not anymore. A very serious Italian travel agency is organizing this trip for 6 people this winter. I’m signed up, I’m going, I’m living. Maybe.
"But you’re completely crazy!!!!"
I know... I know that every civilization, every society has a vital need to create scapegoats to define and justify itself, pathetically. And Iran is one of them, top of the list. I laugh or sigh, and it doesn’t bother me.
But that unchanging red, deep red and garnet, so beautiful in itself, in all the Western chancelleries repeats, whispers, shouts: don’t go, don’t go, don’t go, you’re putting yourself in danger and we can’t do anything for you. You’ll be turned into mere bargaining chips, into arguments for endless negotiations. Fear must be instilled, its power absolutely preserved, no concessions made to the enemy. The information (how many French hostages, real or fake, compared to the number of travelers?) is always lacking.
Traveling becomes a merciless confrontation between desire, the vital pulse, and anxiety, its ghosts.
Catherine
I should be serving a warming drink to the participants in the discussion about gardens and parks that provide us with beautiful photos, I could mention the delicious buttery scent wafting from bakeries in the thread about returning to France, but my heart, its powerful pulse that nourishes my entire being, is elsewhere.
Dasht-e Lut, Yazd, Esfahan, Bam, Kerman, Qeshm, Hormuz—a melody, a prayer at the heart of desire.
A dream, an unattainable fantasy? No. Not anymore. A very serious Italian travel agency is organizing this trip for 6 people this winter. I’m signed up, I’m going, I’m living. Maybe.
"But you’re completely crazy!!!!"
I know... I know that every civilization, every society has a vital need to create scapegoats to define and justify itself, pathetically. And Iran is one of them, top of the list. I laugh or sigh, and it doesn’t bother me.
But that unchanging red, deep red and garnet, so beautiful in itself, in all the Western chancelleries repeats, whispers, shouts: don’t go, don’t go, don’t go, you’re putting yourself in danger and we can’t do anything for you. You’ll be turned into mere bargaining chips, into arguments for endless negotiations. Fear must be instilled, its power absolutely preserved, no concessions made to the enemy. The information (how many French hostages, real or fake, compared to the number of travelers?) is always lacking.
Traveling becomes a merciless confrontation between desire, the vital pulse, and anxiety, its ghosts.
Catherine
Hi everyone, here’s our itinerary. Arriving on the evening of December 13th. Departing on January 7th.
Thanks in advance for your tips and valuable feedback.
Manila – 1 night Coron – 4 nights Coron to El Nido cruise – 2 nights El Nido – 4 nights Port Barton – 5 nights Flight from Puerto Princesa to Vigan Vigan – 2 nights Sagada – 2 nights Banaue – 2 nights Bagabag – 1 night Manila – 1 night I’ve only booked the flight to Manila and the Manila/Coron flight so far. Is it possible to book boat trips, accommodations, and the Puerto Princesa flight last-minute?
Thanks in advance. Florence
Manila – 1 night Coron – 4 nights Coron to El Nido cruise – 2 nights El Nido – 4 nights Port Barton – 5 nights Flight from Puerto Princesa to Vigan Vigan – 2 nights Sagada – 2 nights Banaue – 2 nights Bagabag – 1 night Manila – 1 night I’ve only booked the flight to Manila and the Manila/Coron flight so far. Is it possible to book boat trips, accommodations, and the Puerto Princesa flight last-minute?
Thanks in advance. Florence
Really disappointed with Costa Rica! Pura vida? The scam of the century!
(Costa Rica pure emptiness).
The country where animals are free and people are in cages. 3 weeks in December in this country and never again. Imagine the trailer of a movie that seems interesting, and when you go see it, you realize it’s a flop and the best moments were in the trailer. Well, that’s exactly how we felt with Costa Rica pure emptiness. My wife and I have traveled quite a bit and didn’t expect to be so wrong about a place. On the main routes, we visited: San José Alajuela Limón, Cahuita, Puerto Viejo, Manzanillo (Caribbean side) Jaco, Quepos, Manuel Antonio (Pacific side) And a few short stops in intermediate towns.
Our dissatisfaction grew gradually like this:
When we arrived at the hotel, the taxi dropped us off on a small street in front of a white metal gate with ground-floor windows barred. We looked at it skeptically, but the sign matched. He approached the gate, rang the bell, the buzzer sounded, and the door opened slightly. The hotel wasn’t bad for the price, a 10-minute walk from downtown, but with a "Fleury-Mérogis" vibe guaranteed.
So far, so good.
After showering and regaining our bearings, we headed downtown. What started to unsettle us on the way was seeing houses with bars on the ground-floor windows and even on the second floor. At first, we thought the hotel’s neighborhood wasn’t great.
Downtown San José: It’s a generic city, not very exotic, with a pedestrian street and a small mercado where you can eat local food without frills. Very few tourists—if any—which let you blend in with the locals. We had lunch and struggled to make ourselves understood because, aside from one or two shops, English wasn’t spoken. On the way back to the hotel, we took a different route, and while chatting and strolling, my wife pointed out a beautiful two-story white house completely barricaded like Fort Knox. From that moment, we started noticing the facades of houses and buildings, and wow, it was creepy—most looked like prisons, some even with barbed wire. Though put off, we told ourselves it was probably a big-city thing and the rest of the country couldn’t be like this.
So far, so good.
We relaxed at the hotel and had a drink at the bar. Night falls early, around 5:30 PM. By 7:30 PM, we headed back downtown for dinner. A bit unsettling for a capital—downtown was almost deserted, and aside from fast-food chains, very few restaurants were open, with hardly anyone on the streets. Bars with security guards out front. I won’t say we felt unsafe that night, but once it got dark, we realized the bars on the windows weren’t for nothing. First day in, and our impression was already mixed.
The next day, we explored the city and surroundings, and our feelings didn’t change.
So far, so good.
Off to Cahuita by bus—4 hours of travel. The landscapes are very green but quickly become monotonous. The road runs alongside the forest and passes through a few towns and villages, and even in the countryside, there were just as many prison-like houses. The bus dropped us off at Cahuita’s terminal station—only four of us got off. It’s a village, or rather, a small town. Cahuita is basically one straight road and a perpendicular one, and honestly, doubt started to creep in. A few restaurants that add 13% tax and 10% service charge—so 23% extra. We dropped our stuff at the hotel and went to explore. In 20 minutes, we’d seen it all. We had lunch and planned to check out the famous park. Entry is by donation—well, the "entry" is a joke. There’s a path along the forest by the sea, and that’s it.
Nothing’s going right anymore.
We thought it was a total scam, but since we hadn’t gone far, we decided to come back the next day to explore further. We returned to the hotel, relaxed, and around 8:00 PM, we went out for dinner. Only two restaurants were open, and the streets were deserted.
Creepy!
The next day, we explored the so-called park more thoroughly and really got it. A path along the forest by the sea—2 hours there and 2 hours back, where you see animals that feel like showing their faces. A total joke—"all that for this?"
The beach was full of wood debris and coconut husks. We wondered if the photos online were edited because the sea, very rough, wasn’t the azure blue we’d seen in pictures. But calling this a park is a joke—it’s like a new concept.
When we thought about the reviews online, we started to suspect that professionals with interests in the country were monitoring and countering any negative feedback that could harm their business. Too bad we didn’t check the negative reviews beforehand—we did while we were there, and it helped. We wondered if we’d become too demanding after all our travels, but no—when something’s bad, it’s bad.
Manuel Antonio’s park is even more ridiculous—there’s a short path along the sea for about 500 meters, and then nothing. You have to climb through mud and hack your way through the forest. We ended up barefoot because the mud was up to our calves. All that to see a raccoon and a few parrots flying overhead.
We didn’t expect Noah’s Ark, but we’ve seen more animals in Bali, Mexico, and Thailand while visiting temples or just walking around than in these so-called parks!
Puerto Viejo, not far from Cahuita and supposedly livelier—well, it couldn’t be worse! According to Lonely Planet, it had a Caribbean vibe and wild nights, but maybe that was a long time ago. The good reggae music playing everywhere isn’t enough.
In the evening, Puerto Viejo was a bit livelier than Cahuita, but that’s not saying much. Very few tourists—if any—no night market, just two or three shops open selling $20 T-shirts. Same vibe as San José.
No big deal—we enjoyed the beach and the sun, which was reliable. Our itinerary was supposed to include Tortuguero Park, but after talking to other travelers who’d just been, we changed our minds, knowing we’d be visiting Manuel Antonio Park on the Pacific side.
To get back to the Pacific side, you have to take the bus and go through San José again—5 hours this time—then switch bus terminals and another 4.5 hours to Quepos. A stopover town to get to Manuel Antonio’s beach and park! A town just like the others we’d seen—deserted as soon as the sun sets, and not exactly bustling during the day either. (Where are all the tourists?)
Still as many bars on the windows and that feeling of being in the wrong place.
7 km later: Manuel Antonio beach and park. The beach is very beautiful and quite large, but don’t expect turquoise blue water—the waves stir up the sand, giving the water a brownish color. Along the beach, shops and restaurants for about 300 meters, and then nothing. At night, after sunset, the town shuts down too.
Manuel Antonio Park is highly praised for its wildlife, so we were eager to see it. When you express dissatisfaction with Cahuita or Manzanillo parks, the response is always, "But you should’ve gone to Monteverde or Manuel Antonio!" No matter what you do or say, they’ll tell you, "You should’ve gone there or here."
Back to our famous park—entry was about $16, and contrary to what we’d heard, it wasn’t crowded! Guides at the entrance with spotting scopes offered their services for about $30. The park: a mix of boardwalk and dirt paths through the forest, sometimes running alongside beautiful coves and beaches. As soon as we entered, a crowd was taking photos of a deer eating leaves. A little further on, a guide with a group of five stopped. The guide raised his arm and set up his spotting scope! He showed them, about 100 meters away, a hummingbird perched on a branch. Some, looking through the scope, exclaimed, "Oh my God! Amazing! Incredible!" For a moment, we thought they’d discovered a unicorn or were in Jurassic Park and had just crossed paths with a T-Rex! The concept is comical—looking at a bird or another animal through a spotting scope because it’s too far away. Isn’t that what TV is for? For our part, we saw monkeys, ants, an armadillo, an iguana, and the backside of a sloth climbing a tree. Amazing, incredible!
We stayed a few days in Manuel Antonio to enjoy the beach, changing hotels often because prices varied wildly from one day to the next for shameful services. On top of that, they’d quote a price in dollars and convert it at their discretion—thieves!
Alajuela, a city near the airport, has a two-story mall and a local market downtown! No interest except its proximity to the airport.
What we liked:
The climate and, in hindsight, San José—the most authentic city we visited.
What we didn’t like, in addition to what we’ve already mentioned:
Costa Ricans aren’t very friendly or communicative. English is barely spoken, not even by doctors at Quepos Hospital, where my wife ended up with food poisoning (thanks, Google Translate). The widespread obesity among Costa Ricans, who eat like Americans. The insecurity. The eco-hipsters who leave their $150 lodges in minivans with guides to visit parks and other sites, then return to barricade themselves in their fortresses at nightfall (oh my God, amazing, incredible). The blue signs at the entrance of towns that accept this payment method: "We accept American Express." Parking lots that become paid just because a guy is watching your car. Prices displayed in dollars. The cost of living (hotels, restaurants, taxes). Landscapes that are too green and not flowery enough. Beaches—nothing exceptional. Pollution in cities where big American trucks rule. Sewage dumped directly into the sea. Aside from the jungle, there’s nothing to visit—no ruins, monuments, or anything worth seeing.
In short, my wife and I think the hype about this supposedly eco-friendly country is overrated. It’s just the trendy destination of the moment. There are much better, cheaper, and more authentic places. In hindsight, we keep the good memories and our beautiful photos, but if we had to do it over...
Before signing off, a little message to those who don’t like hearing opinions different from theirs: Well, some things aren’t up for debate. And to those who’d have us believe that in 3 weeks, we don’t have the right to criticize a country or express our feelings—how can you praise it in so little time? What a scam. Costa Rica is a money pit. Pura vida? Pure cosmic emptiness.
If you like spending your evenings barricaded in your cozy hotel after dark, this country is for you. For everyone else: run!
The country where animals are free and people are in cages. 3 weeks in December in this country and never again. Imagine the trailer of a movie that seems interesting, and when you go see it, you realize it’s a flop and the best moments were in the trailer. Well, that’s exactly how we felt with Costa Rica pure emptiness. My wife and I have traveled quite a bit and didn’t expect to be so wrong about a place. On the main routes, we visited: San José Alajuela Limón, Cahuita, Puerto Viejo, Manzanillo (Caribbean side) Jaco, Quepos, Manuel Antonio (Pacific side) And a few short stops in intermediate towns.
Our dissatisfaction grew gradually like this:
When we arrived at the hotel, the taxi dropped us off on a small street in front of a white metal gate with ground-floor windows barred. We looked at it skeptically, but the sign matched. He approached the gate, rang the bell, the buzzer sounded, and the door opened slightly. The hotel wasn’t bad for the price, a 10-minute walk from downtown, but with a "Fleury-Mérogis" vibe guaranteed.
So far, so good.
After showering and regaining our bearings, we headed downtown. What started to unsettle us on the way was seeing houses with bars on the ground-floor windows and even on the second floor. At first, we thought the hotel’s neighborhood wasn’t great.
Downtown San José: It’s a generic city, not very exotic, with a pedestrian street and a small mercado where you can eat local food without frills. Very few tourists—if any—which let you blend in with the locals. We had lunch and struggled to make ourselves understood because, aside from one or two shops, English wasn’t spoken. On the way back to the hotel, we took a different route, and while chatting and strolling, my wife pointed out a beautiful two-story white house completely barricaded like Fort Knox. From that moment, we started noticing the facades of houses and buildings, and wow, it was creepy—most looked like prisons, some even with barbed wire. Though put off, we told ourselves it was probably a big-city thing and the rest of the country couldn’t be like this.
So far, so good.
We relaxed at the hotel and had a drink at the bar. Night falls early, around 5:30 PM. By 7:30 PM, we headed back downtown for dinner. A bit unsettling for a capital—downtown was almost deserted, and aside from fast-food chains, very few restaurants were open, with hardly anyone on the streets. Bars with security guards out front. I won’t say we felt unsafe that night, but once it got dark, we realized the bars on the windows weren’t for nothing. First day in, and our impression was already mixed.
The next day, we explored the city and surroundings, and our feelings didn’t change.
So far, so good.
Off to Cahuita by bus—4 hours of travel. The landscapes are very green but quickly become monotonous. The road runs alongside the forest and passes through a few towns and villages, and even in the countryside, there were just as many prison-like houses. The bus dropped us off at Cahuita’s terminal station—only four of us got off. It’s a village, or rather, a small town. Cahuita is basically one straight road and a perpendicular one, and honestly, doubt started to creep in. A few restaurants that add 13% tax and 10% service charge—so 23% extra. We dropped our stuff at the hotel and went to explore. In 20 minutes, we’d seen it all. We had lunch and planned to check out the famous park. Entry is by donation—well, the "entry" is a joke. There’s a path along the forest by the sea, and that’s it.
Nothing’s going right anymore.
We thought it was a total scam, but since we hadn’t gone far, we decided to come back the next day to explore further. We returned to the hotel, relaxed, and around 8:00 PM, we went out for dinner. Only two restaurants were open, and the streets were deserted.
Creepy!
The next day, we explored the so-called park more thoroughly and really got it. A path along the forest by the sea—2 hours there and 2 hours back, where you see animals that feel like showing their faces. A total joke—"all that for this?"
The beach was full of wood debris and coconut husks. We wondered if the photos online were edited because the sea, very rough, wasn’t the azure blue we’d seen in pictures. But calling this a park is a joke—it’s like a new concept.
When we thought about the reviews online, we started to suspect that professionals with interests in the country were monitoring and countering any negative feedback that could harm their business. Too bad we didn’t check the negative reviews beforehand—we did while we were there, and it helped. We wondered if we’d become too demanding after all our travels, but no—when something’s bad, it’s bad.
Manuel Antonio’s park is even more ridiculous—there’s a short path along the sea for about 500 meters, and then nothing. You have to climb through mud and hack your way through the forest. We ended up barefoot because the mud was up to our calves. All that to see a raccoon and a few parrots flying overhead.
We didn’t expect Noah’s Ark, but we’ve seen more animals in Bali, Mexico, and Thailand while visiting temples or just walking around than in these so-called parks!
Puerto Viejo, not far from Cahuita and supposedly livelier—well, it couldn’t be worse! According to Lonely Planet, it had a Caribbean vibe and wild nights, but maybe that was a long time ago. The good reggae music playing everywhere isn’t enough.
In the evening, Puerto Viejo was a bit livelier than Cahuita, but that’s not saying much. Very few tourists—if any—no night market, just two or three shops open selling $20 T-shirts. Same vibe as San José.
No big deal—we enjoyed the beach and the sun, which was reliable. Our itinerary was supposed to include Tortuguero Park, but after talking to other travelers who’d just been, we changed our minds, knowing we’d be visiting Manuel Antonio Park on the Pacific side.
To get back to the Pacific side, you have to take the bus and go through San José again—5 hours this time—then switch bus terminals and another 4.5 hours to Quepos. A stopover town to get to Manuel Antonio’s beach and park! A town just like the others we’d seen—deserted as soon as the sun sets, and not exactly bustling during the day either. (Where are all the tourists?)
Still as many bars on the windows and that feeling of being in the wrong place.
7 km later: Manuel Antonio beach and park. The beach is very beautiful and quite large, but don’t expect turquoise blue water—the waves stir up the sand, giving the water a brownish color. Along the beach, shops and restaurants for about 300 meters, and then nothing. At night, after sunset, the town shuts down too.
Manuel Antonio Park is highly praised for its wildlife, so we were eager to see it. When you express dissatisfaction with Cahuita or Manzanillo parks, the response is always, "But you should’ve gone to Monteverde or Manuel Antonio!" No matter what you do or say, they’ll tell you, "You should’ve gone there or here."
Back to our famous park—entry was about $16, and contrary to what we’d heard, it wasn’t crowded! Guides at the entrance with spotting scopes offered their services for about $30. The park: a mix of boardwalk and dirt paths through the forest, sometimes running alongside beautiful coves and beaches. As soon as we entered, a crowd was taking photos of a deer eating leaves. A little further on, a guide with a group of five stopped. The guide raised his arm and set up his spotting scope! He showed them, about 100 meters away, a hummingbird perched on a branch. Some, looking through the scope, exclaimed, "Oh my God! Amazing! Incredible!" For a moment, we thought they’d discovered a unicorn or were in Jurassic Park and had just crossed paths with a T-Rex! The concept is comical—looking at a bird or another animal through a spotting scope because it’s too far away. Isn’t that what TV is for? For our part, we saw monkeys, ants, an armadillo, an iguana, and the backside of a sloth climbing a tree. Amazing, incredible!
We stayed a few days in Manuel Antonio to enjoy the beach, changing hotels often because prices varied wildly from one day to the next for shameful services. On top of that, they’d quote a price in dollars and convert it at their discretion—thieves!
Alajuela, a city near the airport, has a two-story mall and a local market downtown! No interest except its proximity to the airport.
What we liked:
The climate and, in hindsight, San José—the most authentic city we visited.
What we didn’t like, in addition to what we’ve already mentioned:
Costa Ricans aren’t very friendly or communicative. English is barely spoken, not even by doctors at Quepos Hospital, where my wife ended up with food poisoning (thanks, Google Translate). The widespread obesity among Costa Ricans, who eat like Americans. The insecurity. The eco-hipsters who leave their $150 lodges in minivans with guides to visit parks and other sites, then return to barricade themselves in their fortresses at nightfall (oh my God, amazing, incredible). The blue signs at the entrance of towns that accept this payment method: "We accept American Express." Parking lots that become paid just because a guy is watching your car. Prices displayed in dollars. The cost of living (hotels, restaurants, taxes). Landscapes that are too green and not flowery enough. Beaches—nothing exceptional. Pollution in cities where big American trucks rule. Sewage dumped directly into the sea. Aside from the jungle, there’s nothing to visit—no ruins, monuments, or anything worth seeing.
In short, my wife and I think the hype about this supposedly eco-friendly country is overrated. It’s just the trendy destination of the moment. There are much better, cheaper, and more authentic places. In hindsight, we keep the good memories and our beautiful photos, but if we had to do it over...
Before signing off, a little message to those who don’t like hearing opinions different from theirs: Well, some things aren’t up for debate. And to those who’d have us believe that in 3 weeks, we don’t have the right to criticize a country or express our feelings—how can you praise it in so little time? What a scam. Costa Rica is a money pit. Pura vida? Pure cosmic emptiness.
If you like spending your evenings barricaded in your cozy hotel after dark, this country is for you. For everyone else: run!
Hello,
Since the war between Russia and Ukraine, nothing is simple anymore for traveling to Belarus due to sanctions.
No more direct flights from the EU to Minsk.
Driving is a huge hassle, especially crossing through Poland at the only open border in Brest—you can wait 2, 3, or even 4 days just to get through by car.
The least painful driving option is to come via Lithuania and cross at the only open border, with a minimum wait time of 8 hours, sometimes up to 20 hours or more!!
Controls are very strict and annoying on both the Lithuanian and Belarusian sides. Avoid bringing alcohol, food, or cigarettes—everything will end up in the trash, especially when leaving Belarus for Vilnius, where the Lithuanians are tough, even with EU citizens.
The joy I once knew when visiting my wife in Minsk is sadly over—it’s now a real ordeal.
The fastest solution is to fly. My wife travels to France by taking a bus to Kaunas in Lithuania, where you can catch a flight (though not daily) to Paris Beauvais or Charleroi in Belgium with Ryanair, for example. For the return trip, it’s the same: a flight to Kaunas and then a direct bus from the airport to Minsk. The bus crossing is quicker than driving—the 250 km journey, including border checks, takes about 6 to 8 hours for buses leaving Lithuania around midnight, but controls are still strict at the border. The biggest challenge is finding flight schedules that align with the bus routes between the two countries, given the unpredictable border crossing times. Now, my wife travels via Charleroi in Belgium (near Brussels), and you can take a train to Paris. Alternatively, you can fly into Beauvais and take a bus to Paris (Porte Maillot). For those driving, note that EU insurance and assistance policies no longer work in Belarus or Russia. You’ll need to get local insurance, usually limited to third-party liability (I don’t think full coverage exists?), as well as mandatory medical insurance. This is available at the border. You now have to pay highway tolls—no more BELTOLL boxes. Instead, you pay a flat fee for the duration of your stay. Stop at the first gas station after crossing from Lithuania to fill up on fuel and cigarettes. From what I know, Lithuania bans carrying more than 60 € in cash, but there’s no limit for USD (though it’s capped at $10,000??). With a Visa card, you can now withdraw 1,000 rubles per week (about 270 €)—two months ago, it was only 500 rubles!! For now, you can still pay by card in shops and gas stations. However, major retailers like KORONA (which may be Russian-owned??) no longer accept foreign Visa cards. Unfortunately, the additional sanctions announced by the U.S. on August 5, 2025, against Russia—and possibly Belarus—aren’t promising for the future. After 20 years of visiting Belarus, I’m truly saddened to see the joy of living in this country with my wonderful wife turn into such a bleak situation, all because of human folly.
The fastest solution is to fly. My wife travels to France by taking a bus to Kaunas in Lithuania, where you can catch a flight (though not daily) to Paris Beauvais or Charleroi in Belgium with Ryanair, for example. For the return trip, it’s the same: a flight to Kaunas and then a direct bus from the airport to Minsk. The bus crossing is quicker than driving—the 250 km journey, including border checks, takes about 6 to 8 hours for buses leaving Lithuania around midnight, but controls are still strict at the border. The biggest challenge is finding flight schedules that align with the bus routes between the two countries, given the unpredictable border crossing times. Now, my wife travels via Charleroi in Belgium (near Brussels), and you can take a train to Paris. Alternatively, you can fly into Beauvais and take a bus to Paris (Porte Maillot). For those driving, note that EU insurance and assistance policies no longer work in Belarus or Russia. You’ll need to get local insurance, usually limited to third-party liability (I don’t think full coverage exists?), as well as mandatory medical insurance. This is available at the border. You now have to pay highway tolls—no more BELTOLL boxes. Instead, you pay a flat fee for the duration of your stay. Stop at the first gas station after crossing from Lithuania to fill up on fuel and cigarettes. From what I know, Lithuania bans carrying more than 60 € in cash, but there’s no limit for USD (though it’s capped at $10,000??). With a Visa card, you can now withdraw 1,000 rubles per week (about 270 €)—two months ago, it was only 500 rubles!! For now, you can still pay by card in shops and gas stations. However, major retailers like KORONA (which may be Russian-owned??) no longer accept foreign Visa cards. Unfortunately, the additional sanctions announced by the U.S. on August 5, 2025, against Russia—and possibly Belarus—aren’t promising for the future. After 20 years of visiting Belarus, I’m truly saddened to see the joy of living in this country with my wonderful wife turn into such a bleak situation, all because of human folly.
Hi everyone!
I’m putting together our travel itinerary for Veneto at the end of April. And the more I look and research potential sites to visit, the more I find!
We’ll only be there for a week—my family and I—including 3 days in Venice. So we have to make some choices...
I plan to rent a car when we arrive in Venice and head straight to Bergamo, which would be our first stop. We’d leave the car at the airport when we return to Venice so we can explore the city at our leisure.
What do you think: 1 night in Bergamo (a 2h15 drive from Venice airport), 1 night in Garda, 1 night in Verona, 1 in Padua, and 3 in Venice—would that be doable?
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences! :)
What do you think: 1 night in Bergamo (a 2h15 drive from Venice airport), 1 night in Garda, 1 night in Verona, 1 in Padua, and 3 in Venice—would that be doable?
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences! :)
Now that the curtain has fallen on the past year, it’s time to see what’s happening around here.
It seems pretty quiet, but I’ll read more in detail later.
First, I need to tell you all an anecdote.
My eldest little girl, in her third year of law school, was really scared she wouldn’t pass the year. I told her: “Trust yourself, you’ve worked so hard, and worst case, if you fail, you’ll just redo the year.” “But I don’t think I’ll make it—they changed the rules, and if I mess up even one unit, I have to start all over.” I knew her grades weren’t exactly stellar, and with what I was about to say, I wasn’t taking much of a risk. “Here’s the deal, sweetheart: if you pass, I promise I’ll take you to India, just the two of us.” I have to admit, India is a country I’ve talked about so much to all my grandchildren that in their minds, it’s become a magical, mythical place (hmm).
July had barely begun when my phone rang, her name flashing on the screen. “Mamido, I did it!” My promise came rushing back—oh no, oh no, oh no! “Congratulations, sweetheart!” A little shyly, she said: “Is the India trip still on?”
And me, replying: “Of course it is!”
And that’s that—a promise is a promise, or you risk losing that precious trust that keeps hearts warm and at peace.
We’re leaving in February. Only 8 days—yikes, the carbon footprint! But we can’t miss her tutorials, or she’ll be kicked out. Personally, that works just fine for me.
Going to India has become a challenge for me. It’s far, it’s exhausting, I sweat, I hate mosquitoes, the spices bother my mouth when I used to love them. There’s noise all the time—at night, the dogs bark nonstop, and we almost get run over. I’ll get lost in the streets because my sense of direction has vanished. I don’t like rice anymore. All that chaos and those cultural differences that once enchanted me now just overwhelm me. But I promised.
The upside—and it’s a big one—Raman, the same driver I’ve had forever, will be at the airport with a sign with our names. We’ll stop at the same little shop for chai (or tea, plain and simple) with that aroma that intoxicates me, halfway through the trip.
It’ll be a tiny trip—staying with friends, I’ll show her a few places I love: Chidambaram, Mamallapuram, and the clinic where I worked. Then we’ll head back. My little girl will go home to her parents.
As for me, I’ll leave right away for our Scottish island with Homme for our chilly winter.
How can you love a country so much you want to live there, then suddenly reject it, no longer able to appreciate what once made it special? That’s the mystery of love, I guess.
First, I need to tell you all an anecdote.
My eldest little girl, in her third year of law school, was really scared she wouldn’t pass the year. I told her: “Trust yourself, you’ve worked so hard, and worst case, if you fail, you’ll just redo the year.” “But I don’t think I’ll make it—they changed the rules, and if I mess up even one unit, I have to start all over.” I knew her grades weren’t exactly stellar, and with what I was about to say, I wasn’t taking much of a risk. “Here’s the deal, sweetheart: if you pass, I promise I’ll take you to India, just the two of us.” I have to admit, India is a country I’ve talked about so much to all my grandchildren that in their minds, it’s become a magical, mythical place (hmm).
July had barely begun when my phone rang, her name flashing on the screen. “Mamido, I did it!” My promise came rushing back—oh no, oh no, oh no! “Congratulations, sweetheart!” A little shyly, she said: “Is the India trip still on?”
And me, replying: “Of course it is!”
And that’s that—a promise is a promise, or you risk losing that precious trust that keeps hearts warm and at peace.
We’re leaving in February. Only 8 days—yikes, the carbon footprint! But we can’t miss her tutorials, or she’ll be kicked out. Personally, that works just fine for me.
Going to India has become a challenge for me. It’s far, it’s exhausting, I sweat, I hate mosquitoes, the spices bother my mouth when I used to love them. There’s noise all the time—at night, the dogs bark nonstop, and we almost get run over. I’ll get lost in the streets because my sense of direction has vanished. I don’t like rice anymore. All that chaos and those cultural differences that once enchanted me now just overwhelm me. But I promised.
The upside—and it’s a big one—Raman, the same driver I’ve had forever, will be at the airport with a sign with our names. We’ll stop at the same little shop for chai (or tea, plain and simple) with that aroma that intoxicates me, halfway through the trip.
It’ll be a tiny trip—staying with friends, I’ll show her a few places I love: Chidambaram, Mamallapuram, and the clinic where I worked. Then we’ll head back. My little girl will go home to her parents.
As for me, I’ll leave right away for our Scottish island with Homme for our chilly winter.
How can you love a country so much you want to live there, then suddenly reject it, no longer able to appreciate what once made it special? That’s the mystery of love, I guess.
I’ve visited the U.S. four times myself, including two long road trips. The last one was just this past August...
I won’t be going back. I already felt guilty last August, but recent policies have finally convinced me: the humiliation of Zelensky, authoritarian excesses, Gestapo-like methods for detaining people of foreign origin, the murder of innocent people (a mother shot dead), corruption, insane "tariffs," skyrocketing healthcare costs for Americans, the abduction of foreign figures to secure oil, the requirement to disclose social media accounts, and now... threats and blackmail to forcibly take Greenland—a region that belongs to Denmark and thus the European Union!
The reality is that simply posting this could get me denied entry to the U.S.!
In this context, I just can’t keep spending money there. I loved my trips, but there are so many other countries with stunning landscapes to explore.
So I get why you’d want to travel there. I did, and I loved it. But once a country no longer respects any of the values that made us love it, why go?
How can we even consider traveling to a country that threatens to take one of our territories by force?
I won’t be going back. I already felt guilty last August, but recent policies have finally convinced me: the humiliation of Zelensky, authoritarian excesses, Gestapo-like methods for detaining people of foreign origin, the murder of innocent people (a mother shot dead), corruption, insane "tariffs," skyrocketing healthcare costs for Americans, the abduction of foreign figures to secure oil, the requirement to disclose social media accounts, and now... threats and blackmail to forcibly take Greenland—a region that belongs to Denmark and thus the European Union!
The reality is that simply posting this could get me denied entry to the U.S.!
In this context, I just can’t keep spending money there. I loved my trips, but there are so many other countries with stunning landscapes to explore.
So I get why you’d want to travel there. I did, and I loved it. But once a country no longer respects any of the values that made us love it, why go?
How can we even consider traveling to a country that threatens to take one of our territories by force?
Hi there,
While reading some travel journals, I notice that we always reflect on the people of the countries we visit.
I’d love to hear your thoughts on which people charmed you the most during your travels?
I’m not looking for controversy, just reflections and personal feelings. Looking forward to reading your replies...
While reading some travel journals, I notice that we always reflect on the people of the countries we visit.
I’d love to hear your thoughts on which people charmed you the most during your travels?
I’m not looking for controversy, just reflections and personal feelings. Looking forward to reading your replies...
Hello everyone,
Controversial topic? Not necessarily—maybe just a reflection on a world to come.
I spent the last 15 days of August on a cruise in Greenland, from Kangerlussuaq to Tasiilaq.
I was utterly amazed by this unique world of rock and ice, the little houses in every color, a simple life that’s also complicated by isolation and climate, among other things...
I carry in my heart the kindness of the people I met, the raw and gentle majesty of the icebergs, the colors of the sky...
So, I can’t even imagine a massive presence of raw material prospectors, heavy machinery requiring roads to be built—if that’s even possible—changing their way of life... putting sled dogs out to pasture!
Do fast food and Greenland’s northern lights really mix?
I wouldn’t trade my memories for an ESTA!
All opinions are respectable, which is why this isn’t a controversy—but I’m sorry, I have a soft spot for *my* Greenland.
Best regards,
So, I can’t even imagine a massive presence of raw material prospectors, heavy machinery requiring roads to be built—if that’s even possible—changing their way of life... putting sled dogs out to pasture!
Do fast food and Greenland’s northern lights really mix?
I wouldn’t trade my memories for an ESTA!
All opinions are respectable, which is why this isn’t a controversy—but I’m sorry, I have a soft spot for *my* Greenland.
Best regards,

Hello to all East Africa lovers and nature enthusiasts in general,
While I prepare to share a recap of our latest trip/safari in Kenya soon, I’d like to wish you all a peaceful transition between 2025 and 2026.
Warm regards,
Puma2A.





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We’re a couple aged 58 and 63. We’ve just returned from a wonderful trip to South India in Tamil Nadu and a few days in Kerala. We traveled with a local French-speaking guide and his friend, the driver. They both live in Pondicherry. We spent 3 weeks with them in the most authentic way!
We covered just over 2,500 km and visited not only temples but also archaeological sites, museums, and small artisanal businesses making tiles, tea, sculptures, bronze, and silk spinning. We were lucky enough to visit a public school, attend a wedding, and even a death announcement in a small countryside village. We were fully immersed in the culture, food, noise, and colors—it was incredible!
The hotels and guesthouses we chose were very clean and mostly quiet. We’re returning from India with amazing discoveries!
We’re happy to share more info if you’d like! M-Claire and Jean
We covered just over 2,500 km and visited not only temples but also archaeological sites, museums, and small artisanal businesses making tiles, tea, sculptures, bronze, and silk spinning. We were lucky enough to visit a public school, attend a wedding, and even a death announcement in a small countryside village. We were fully immersed in the culture, food, noise, and colors—it was incredible!
The hotels and guesthouses we chose were very clean and mostly quiet. We’re returning from India with amazing discoveries!
We’re happy to share more info if you’d like! M-Claire and Jean
This catchy and somewhat mysterious title comes from several questions I’ve been asking myself.
VF has been back open for a reasonable number of weeks and months now. The number of visitors overall matches past averages, but the number of members online in the last 24 hours seems relatively lower than what we used to see.
Yet, to my surprise, I’m seeing fewer travel journals, way fewer messages, and way fewer questions. I don’t see many new registered users online, and I notice a number of members who are logged in but either aren’t participating or have stopped participating.
Something’s not adding up for me because, in my opinion, VF is still appealing, and I don’t see which other sites could really compete.
Was there a real break between pre- and post-Covid? Does it just take more time for some people to discover the site or learn that it’s active again? Do people now prefer quick consumption on sites like FB or others I’m not familiar with? Where have the site’s old-timers gone, and what are they doing with their time now? What’s really going on here?
VF has been back open for a reasonable number of weeks and months now. The number of visitors overall matches past averages, but the number of members online in the last 24 hours seems relatively lower than what we used to see.
Yet, to my surprise, I’m seeing fewer travel journals, way fewer messages, and way fewer questions. I don’t see many new registered users online, and I notice a number of members who are logged in but either aren’t participating or have stopped participating.
Something’s not adding up for me because, in my opinion, VF is still appealing, and I don’t see which other sites could really compete.
Was there a real break between pre- and post-Covid? Does it just take more time for some people to discover the site or learn that it’s active again? Do people now prefer quick consumption on sites like FB or others I’m not familiar with? Where have the site’s old-timers gone, and what are they doing with their time now? What’s really going on here?
Hi there,
This isn’t exactly a traveler’s question... I’d like to know who handles the technical side of this forum?
I run a similar forum on a different topic (unrecognized children), and we’re dealing with a few technical issues that are slowly killing our forum... so I’d have one or two questions to ask 😊.
Also, I was wondering who created this forum... who the administrators or moderators are, etc.
I think this forum is great. Much better than Facebook, which I’ve been using since it shut down (so I’m happy to see it’s working again...)
This isn’t exactly a traveler’s question... I’d like to know who handles the technical side of this forum?
I run a similar forum on a different topic (unrecognized children), and we’re dealing with a few technical issues that are slowly killing our forum... so I’d have one or two questions to ask 😊.
Also, I was wondering who created this forum... who the administrators or moderators are, etc.
I think this forum is great. Much better than Facebook, which I’ve been using since it shut down (so I’m happy to see it’s working again...)
Hi there, I’ve been traveling for 18 years now, at least 6 months a year, and as the years go by, I actually enjoy coming back to France more and more—a feeling I struggled with at first. I mean, we always think the grass is greener elsewhere.
But in the end, I find meaning in that saying about how there’s no place like home. I still love traveling just as much, but now my trips are shorter, and I enjoy spending more time in our beautiful country, even though I don’t hesitate to criticize it.
How about you? How do you handle coming back from your travels?
A few years ago, I went with a group of friends to lend a hand at a small rural school near Thiès, Senegal.
It was a relaxed but hardworking atmosphere—hands in the mortar, laughter, exchanges, and everything that a COOPERATION project can bring.
Today, the little project is flying on its own.
Wanting to explore Senegal’s riches, we set off for some tourism in the Siné Saloum. One girl in our group fell ill (a malaria attack), and we decided to take her to see a doctor at a large tourist complex nearby. Despite her condition, we had to "show our credentials" (if I may say so) just to get in. She was treated and has been fine since.
This "stop" at a Club Med-style resort with a Teutonic twist—resembling Le Grau-du-Roi but fancier—was a horror show for us: pools, massive artificial basins dyed blue, pink, or green (!!!!), animators shouting around wet T-shirt contests or coconut tree climbing, and sunburned (or sun-pinked) *toubabs*. The entire hotel was surrounded by a huge wall, behind which a small souvenir-seller slum had sprung up, worthy of Dakar’s outer neighborhoods. On leaving, we saw a minibus of guests returning from an "excursion," loaded with masks, fabrics, and djembés—African souvenirs? Maybe those will be *theirs*? What impression did the kids clustered at the hotel gates get? What about the Black servers in "traditional African costumes," serving cocktails and ice cream nonstop?
For me, who experienced Africa very young and in the bush, this remains a haunting image.
On VF, this kind of vacation doesn’t seem to be the norm among users, and that’s exactly why I signed up.
Have you ever experienced this kind of interstellar travel? Do you understand the Martians? Are their motivations peaceful?
Wanting to explore Senegal’s riches, we set off for some tourism in the Siné Saloum. One girl in our group fell ill (a malaria attack), and we decided to take her to see a doctor at a large tourist complex nearby. Despite her condition, we had to "show our credentials" (if I may say so) just to get in. She was treated and has been fine since.
This "stop" at a Club Med-style resort with a Teutonic twist—resembling Le Grau-du-Roi but fancier—was a horror show for us: pools, massive artificial basins dyed blue, pink, or green (!!!!), animators shouting around wet T-shirt contests or coconut tree climbing, and sunburned (or sun-pinked) *toubabs*. The entire hotel was surrounded by a huge wall, behind which a small souvenir-seller slum had sprung up, worthy of Dakar’s outer neighborhoods. On leaving, we saw a minibus of guests returning from an "excursion," loaded with masks, fabrics, and djembés—African souvenirs? Maybe those will be *theirs*? What impression did the kids clustered at the hotel gates get? What about the Black servers in "traditional African costumes," serving cocktails and ice cream nonstop?
For me, who experienced Africa very young and in the bush, this remains a haunting image.
On VF, this kind of vacation doesn’t seem to be the norm among users, and that’s exactly why I signed up.
Have you ever experienced this kind of interstellar travel? Do you understand the Martians? Are their motivations peaceful?