Day 1 – 24/07 – dép Lyon – arr LA fin d’aprèm – voiture à l’aéroport – trouver hotel (Hollywood city inn 67Euros) et dormir ! Day 2 – 25/07 – LA - Visit Hollywood, Sunset strip, beverley Hills – griffith park & Getty Centre (Hollywood city Inn67Euros) Day 3 – 26/07dép LA matin – windturbines sur l’I-10, Palm Springs aerial tramway, Joshua Tree park (prend pass $80)– nuit à 29 Palms (Bestwestern garden Inn $129) => question 1 : entre Palm Springs & 29 Palms, quelle est la meilleure façon de « voir » Joshua Tree Park ? traverser le parc Joshua du sud vers 29 palms ou remonter par l’ouest et entrée dans le parc par le nord ?? Day 4 – 27/07 dép 29 Palms – passant par Route 66 / Bagdad café, Route 66 à nuit Grand Canyon (Red Feather Lodge $133 ) => question 2 : entre Palm Springs & Grand Canyon – via la route 66 – des tuyaux pour sites et curiosités ? Day 5 – 28/07 journée dans le GC - nuitRed Feather Lodge $133 Day 6 - 29/07dép GC – destination nuit Mexican Hat (Hat Rock Inn – 120$) Passer dans Monument valley le soir ??=> question 3 : est-il possible de quitter le GC passer par Chelly Canyon et le ‘visiter’ puis se rendre à Mexicn Hat dans la même journée ?? Ou vaut il mieux aller directement NE vers Monument – (curiosités en route ??) Quant à Monument Valley une entrée payée le soir donne accès le lendemain ?? Ou faut il repayer un droite d’entrée ? Day 7 – 30/07 dép Mexican Hat – passant par Monument Valley – early morning – destination Page – visite lake …. Nuit à Page (Quality Inn $120) => question 4 : entre monument Valley et Page prendre la route principale ou la route ‘jaune’ ?? Day 8 -31/07 dép Page- visite Bryce Canyon – nuit à Bryce (Bryce canon lodge $88) Day 9 – 1/08 dép Bryce Canyon – visite Zion Park – nuit Saint george (Crystal Inn $85) Day 10 – 2/08 dép Saint george – destination Las Vegas – journée, nuit (New York New York $200) Day 11- 3/08 dép Las Vegas – visit Death Valley - nuit Lone Pine (Dow Villa Motel $104) Day 12 – 4/08 dép Lone Pine – passant par Mammoth lake - June lake loop – nuit Lee Vining (Murphy’s $126) Day 13 – 5/08 Journée à Mono Lake - -Bodie ghost town – lake mono batheing – nuit Lee Vining (Murphy’s$126 ) Day 14 – 6/08 dép Lee vining – entrer dans Yosemite – journée / balades puis nuit à Mariposa Lodge $132 Day 15 – 7/08 dép Mariposa – visite Yosemite – destination nuit à San Francisco (Grant hotel $110) => question 5 : Visite de Yosemite Valley pour arriver le soir à San Francisco – quoi visiter dans le parc, à quelle heure faut-il partir et par quelle route ? Day 16- 18 – San Francisco - China Town -Golden Gate - Union Sq - louer vélos traverser GG bridge - The GG park (tea rooms) - Painted ladies - Nob Hill – Alcatraz- Pier 39 - Berkley – soccer stadium view GGB Day 19 – 11/08 – dép SF tôt Santa Cruz – Monteray -17 miles ? – Big Sur – nuit à Cambria (Creekside inn $140) Monday Day 20 – 12/08 dép Cambria – visite Hearst Castle – côte (Santa Babs, Malibu à Santa Monica (2 nuits $148 Sea Shore Motel) Day 21 – 13/08- Universal Studios 9am – 9 pm à evening Santa Monica / Venice. Nuit Sea Shore Motel $148 question 6 : se render à Universal Studs. à partir de Santa Monica – quelle route emprunter et combien de temps de voyage ?? Day 22 – 14/08 – Shopping ! Santa Monica ? (autres suggestions pas loin de l’aéroport ??) - aéroport @ 17h RETOUR en FRANCE🙁🙁🙁
Circuit dans l'Ouest américain après cinq mois de délibération...
by Yankeedoodle
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Voici notre programme pour nos vacances en Californ-i-a. Nous sommes 2 parents + 2 enfants (12 et 13) et nous partons dans moins de 2 mois !! 😎 Tout est reservé sauf la voiture (j'hésite encore). J'ai indiqué les prix d'hôtels qui sont parfois HT donc attention !
Même si le programme est déterminé il reste encore et toujours quelques questions pour certaines étapes - merci aux acharnés de la CA de répondre et/ou faire des suggestions, améliorations, modifications .....
(je m'excuse d'avance pour la "qualité" de mon français - étant de nationalité Brit je mélange toujours les deux langues ! !)
Day 1 – 24/07 – dép Lyon – arr LA fin d’aprèm – voiture à l’aéroport – trouver hotel (Hollywood city inn 67Euros) et dormir ! Day 2 – 25/07 – LA - Visit Hollywood, Sunset strip, beverley Hills – griffith park & Getty Centre (Hollywood city Inn67Euros) Day 3 – 26/07dép LA matin – windturbines sur l’I-10, Palm Springs aerial tramway, Joshua Tree park (prend pass $80)– nuit à 29 Palms (Bestwestern garden Inn $129) => question 1 : entre Palm Springs & 29 Palms, quelle est la meilleure façon de « voir » Joshua Tree Park ? traverser le parc Joshua du sud vers 29 palms ou remonter par l’ouest et entrée dans le parc par le nord ?? Day 4 – 27/07 dép 29 Palms – passant par Route 66 / Bagdad café, Route 66 à nuit Grand Canyon (Red Feather Lodge $133 ) => question 2 : entre Palm Springs & Grand Canyon – via la route 66 – des tuyaux pour sites et curiosités ? Day 5 – 28/07 journée dans le GC - nuitRed Feather Lodge $133 Day 6 - 29/07dép GC – destination nuit Mexican Hat (Hat Rock Inn – 120$) Passer dans Monument valley le soir ??=> question 3 : est-il possible de quitter le GC passer par Chelly Canyon et le ‘visiter’ puis se rendre à Mexicn Hat dans la même journée ?? Ou vaut il mieux aller directement NE vers Monument – (curiosités en route ??) Quant à Monument Valley une entrée payée le soir donne accès le lendemain ?? Ou faut il repayer un droite d’entrée ? Day 7 – 30/07 dép Mexican Hat – passant par Monument Valley – early morning – destination Page – visite lake …. Nuit à Page (Quality Inn $120) => question 4 : entre monument Valley et Page prendre la route principale ou la route ‘jaune’ ?? Day 8 -31/07 dép Page- visite Bryce Canyon – nuit à Bryce (Bryce canon lodge $88) Day 9 – 1/08 dép Bryce Canyon – visite Zion Park – nuit Saint george (Crystal Inn $85) Day 10 – 2/08 dép Saint george – destination Las Vegas – journée, nuit (New York New York $200) Day 11- 3/08 dép Las Vegas – visit Death Valley - nuit Lone Pine (Dow Villa Motel $104) Day 12 – 4/08 dép Lone Pine – passant par Mammoth lake - June lake loop – nuit Lee Vining (Murphy’s $126) Day 13 – 5/08 Journée à Mono Lake - -Bodie ghost town – lake mono batheing – nuit Lee Vining (Murphy’s$126 ) Day 14 – 6/08 dép Lee vining – entrer dans Yosemite – journée / balades puis nuit à Mariposa Lodge $132 Day 15 – 7/08 dép Mariposa – visite Yosemite – destination nuit à San Francisco (Grant hotel $110) => question 5 : Visite de Yosemite Valley pour arriver le soir à San Francisco – quoi visiter dans le parc, à quelle heure faut-il partir et par quelle route ? Day 16- 18 – San Francisco - China Town -Golden Gate - Union Sq - louer vélos traverser GG bridge - The GG park (tea rooms) - Painted ladies - Nob Hill – Alcatraz- Pier 39 - Berkley – soccer stadium view GGB Day 19 – 11/08 – dép SF tôt Santa Cruz – Monteray -17 miles ? – Big Sur – nuit à Cambria (Creekside inn $140) Monday Day 20 – 12/08 dép Cambria – visite Hearst Castle – côte (Santa Babs, Malibu à Santa Monica (2 nuits $148 Sea Shore Motel) Day 21 – 13/08- Universal Studios 9am – 9 pm à evening Santa Monica / Venice. Nuit Sea Shore Motel $148 question 6 : se render à Universal Studs. à partir de Santa Monica – quelle route emprunter et combien de temps de voyage ?? Day 22 – 14/08 – Shopping ! Santa Monica ? (autres suggestions pas loin de l’aéroport ??) - aéroport @ 17h RETOUR en FRANCE🙁🙁🙁
Day 1 – 24/07 – dép Lyon – arr LA fin d’aprèm – voiture à l’aéroport – trouver hotel (Hollywood city inn 67Euros) et dormir ! Day 2 – 25/07 – LA - Visit Hollywood, Sunset strip, beverley Hills – griffith park & Getty Centre (Hollywood city Inn67Euros) Day 3 – 26/07dép LA matin – windturbines sur l’I-10, Palm Springs aerial tramway, Joshua Tree park (prend pass $80)– nuit à 29 Palms (Bestwestern garden Inn $129) => question 1 : entre Palm Springs & 29 Palms, quelle est la meilleure façon de « voir » Joshua Tree Park ? traverser le parc Joshua du sud vers 29 palms ou remonter par l’ouest et entrée dans le parc par le nord ?? Day 4 – 27/07 dép 29 Palms – passant par Route 66 / Bagdad café, Route 66 à nuit Grand Canyon (Red Feather Lodge $133 ) => question 2 : entre Palm Springs & Grand Canyon – via la route 66 – des tuyaux pour sites et curiosités ? Day 5 – 28/07 journée dans le GC - nuitRed Feather Lodge $133 Day 6 - 29/07dép GC – destination nuit Mexican Hat (Hat Rock Inn – 120$) Passer dans Monument valley le soir ??=> question 3 : est-il possible de quitter le GC passer par Chelly Canyon et le ‘visiter’ puis se rendre à Mexicn Hat dans la même journée ?? Ou vaut il mieux aller directement NE vers Monument – (curiosités en route ??) Quant à Monument Valley une entrée payée le soir donne accès le lendemain ?? Ou faut il repayer un droite d’entrée ? Day 7 – 30/07 dép Mexican Hat – passant par Monument Valley – early morning – destination Page – visite lake …. Nuit à Page (Quality Inn $120) => question 4 : entre monument Valley et Page prendre la route principale ou la route ‘jaune’ ?? Day 8 -31/07 dép Page- visite Bryce Canyon – nuit à Bryce (Bryce canon lodge $88) Day 9 – 1/08 dép Bryce Canyon – visite Zion Park – nuit Saint george (Crystal Inn $85) Day 10 – 2/08 dép Saint george – destination Las Vegas – journée, nuit (New York New York $200) Day 11- 3/08 dép Las Vegas – visit Death Valley - nuit Lone Pine (Dow Villa Motel $104) Day 12 – 4/08 dép Lone Pine – passant par Mammoth lake - June lake loop – nuit Lee Vining (Murphy’s $126) Day 13 – 5/08 Journée à Mono Lake - -Bodie ghost town – lake mono batheing – nuit Lee Vining (Murphy’s$126 ) Day 14 – 6/08 dép Lee vining – entrer dans Yosemite – journée / balades puis nuit à Mariposa Lodge $132 Day 15 – 7/08 dép Mariposa – visite Yosemite – destination nuit à San Francisco (Grant hotel $110) => question 5 : Visite de Yosemite Valley pour arriver le soir à San Francisco – quoi visiter dans le parc, à quelle heure faut-il partir et par quelle route ? Day 16- 18 – San Francisco - China Town -Golden Gate - Union Sq - louer vélos traverser GG bridge - The GG park (tea rooms) - Painted ladies - Nob Hill – Alcatraz- Pier 39 - Berkley – soccer stadium view GGB Day 19 – 11/08 – dép SF tôt Santa Cruz – Monteray -17 miles ? – Big Sur – nuit à Cambria (Creekside inn $140) Monday Day 20 – 12/08 dép Cambria – visite Hearst Castle – côte (Santa Babs, Malibu à Santa Monica (2 nuits $148 Sea Shore Motel) Day 21 – 13/08- Universal Studios 9am – 9 pm à evening Santa Monica / Venice. Nuit Sea Shore Motel $148 question 6 : se render à Universal Studs. à partir de Santa Monica – quelle route emprunter et combien de temps de voyage ?? Day 22 – 14/08 – Shopping ! Santa Monica ? (autres suggestions pas loin de l’aéroport ??) - aéroport @ 17h RETOUR en FRANCE🙁🙁🙁
programme chargé est sympa dis moi 😉
perso je pars cet été aussi et pour la 1ere fois!
je peux juste te dire que si tu souhaite voir les itiniraires, la distance entre 2 villes, va sur google map!!
il calcul les itinéraires routier, c plutot bien fait.
Après niveau location de voiture, tu dit que tu hésite, pr quelle raison? vous voyager bcp qd mm, des fois des vols internes peuvent te faire gagner bcp de tps et pr pas cher....mais encore faut il que se soit possible pr ton séjour 😛
perso je pars cet été aussi et pour la 1ere fois!
je peux juste te dire que si tu souhaite voir les itiniraires, la distance entre 2 villes, va sur google map!!
il calcul les itinéraires routier, c plutot bien fait.
Après niveau location de voiture, tu dit que tu hésite, pr quelle raison? vous voyager bcp qd mm, des fois des vols internes peuvent te faire gagner bcp de tps et pr pas cher....mais encore faut il que se soit possible pr ton séjour 😛
Bonjour,
Beau circuit,
question 3 : est-il possible de quitter le GC passer par Chelly Canyon et le ‘visiter’ puis se rendre à Mexicn Hat dans la même journée ?? Ou vaut il mieux aller directement NE vers Monument – (curiosités en route ??) Quant à Monument Valley une entrée payée le soir donne accès le lendemain ?? Ou faut il repayer un droite d’entrée ?
Il te faut plus de 4h pour faire GC Canyon de Chelly. Arrivé sur place, Il y a une ballade à pied à faire vers la White house si je ne me trompe pas, mais cela prend qq heures egalement . Puis faire le tour par le haut pour avoir la vue sur cette vallée, qq heures egalement si tu ne le fais pas en courant ( qq photos de ci de là). Puis encore 2h pour rejoindre MV. Bref, c'est au pas de course que tu vas faire tout cela. Je pense que si tu fais le detour par canyon de Chelly, il faut prendre le temps de vous ballader; puis prenez la route pour aller dormir pres de MV pour pouvoir assister au lever de soleil sur MV, qui est joli aussi. Mais je pense qu'il faudra renoncer au coucher de soleil. Quand à MV: Tu payes l'entrée le soir, et le matin. Et c'est assez cher.
Bonne route
question 3 : est-il possible de quitter le GC passer par Chelly Canyon et le ‘visiter’ puis se rendre à Mexicn Hat dans la même journée ?? Ou vaut il mieux aller directement NE vers Monument – (curiosités en route ??) Quant à Monument Valley une entrée payée le soir donne accès le lendemain ?? Ou faut il repayer un droite d’entrée ?
Il te faut plus de 4h pour faire GC Canyon de Chelly. Arrivé sur place, Il y a une ballade à pied à faire vers la White house si je ne me trompe pas, mais cela prend qq heures egalement . Puis faire le tour par le haut pour avoir la vue sur cette vallée, qq heures egalement si tu ne le fais pas en courant ( qq photos de ci de là). Puis encore 2h pour rejoindre MV. Bref, c'est au pas de course que tu vas faire tout cela. Je pense que si tu fais le detour par canyon de Chelly, il faut prendre le temps de vous ballader; puis prenez la route pour aller dormir pres de MV pour pouvoir assister au lever de soleil sur MV, qui est joli aussi. Mais je pense qu'il faudra renoncer au coucher de soleil. Quand à MV: Tu payes l'entrée le soir, et le matin. Et c'est assez cher.
Bonne route
Il n'y a que deux façons de vivre sa vie : l'une en faisant comme si rien n'était un miracle, l'autre comme si tout était un miracle.
Bonjour,
Q 1 : pour Joshua Tree, tu peux télécharger les cartes sur ce site : http://www.nps.gov/jotr/planyourvisit/maps.htm, la route à faire va de Joshua Tree à l'intersection de Box Canyon Road avec la I10 http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&hl=fr&geocode=9104370395547610817, 34.134417, -116.315176%3B1839289582721021460, 34.004536, -116.119048%3B281221439040837353, 33.661362, -115.802196&saddr=Park+Blvd+%4034.134417, +-116.315176&daddr=Park+Blvd+%4034.004536, +-116.119048+to:33.661362, -115.802196&sll=33.66564, -115.80004&sspn=0.015716, 0.021179&ie=UTF8&z=11 peut importe le sens nord/sud.
Q 2 : en un jour tu n'as pas trop le choix Kingman, Williams, sinon Prescott Jerome Sedona mais ça rallonge !!!
Q 3 : voir réponse précédente
Q 4 : route jaune ?? A voir le Navajo National Monument et Betatakin http://www.jqjacobs.net/southwest/betatakin.html en passant par là http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&hl=fr&geocode=16538185012644927017, 36.684500, -110.540730%3B14420290487876663202, 36.604038, -110.611037%3B8757295290267145141, 36.584590, -110.681135%3B17903325159165158870, 36.573183, -110.713530&saddr=MEXICAN+HAT&daddr=Route+inconnue+%4036.684500, +-110.540730+to:BIA-221+%4036.604038, +-110.611037+to:BIA-6325+%4036.584590, +-110.681135+to:BIA-6322+%4036.573183, +-110.713530+to:Page, +Coconino, +Arizona, +%C3%89tats-Unis+d'Am%C3%A9rique&sll=36.687831, -110.529499&sspn=0.121137, 0.16943&ie=UTF8&z=9 c'est le point B .
Q 5 : Curry Village, Yosemite Falls le bas, Glacier Point Road . Route pour SF je passerai par là pour Chinese Camp, Jamestown et Sonora http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&hl=fr&geocode=2726540401816797367, 37.507104, -119.632106%3B17637692265185974242, 37.822295, -119.998747%3B14790876879709400229, 37.850222, -120.392935%3B12454891902269301089, 37.979140, -120.381090&saddr=CA-41+%4037.507104, +-119.632106&daddr=CA-120+%4037.822295, +-119.998747+to:CA-120%2FCA-49+%4037.850222, +-120.392935+to:S+Washington+St+%4037.979140, +-120.381090+to:SAN+FRANCISCO&sll=37.9488, -120.4105&sspn=0.238243, 0.33886&ie=UTF8&z=8 .
Q 6 : route directe http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&hl=fr&geocode=10273958573682741368, 34.001839, -118.483414, 8284254912852189221, 34.136793, -118.355590&saddr=2637+Main+St, +Santa+Monica, +CA+90405+(Sea+Shore+Motel)&daddr=100+Universal+City+Plz, +Universal+City, +CA+91608+(Universal+Studios+Hollywood)&mra=pe&mrcr=0&sll=34.085148, -118.4127&sspn=0.250221, 0.33886&ie=UTF8&ll=34.080531, -118.420601&spn=0.250234, 0.33886&z=12 .
Bonne préparation Patrick
Bonne préparation Patrick
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Bonjour,
Palm Springs aerial tramway, Joshua Tree park (prend pass $80)– nuit à 29 Palms (Bestwestern garden Inn $129) => question 1 : entre Palm Springs & 29 Palms, quelle est la meilleure façon de « voir » Joshua Tree Park ? traverser le parc Joshua du sud vers 29 palms ou remonter par l’ouest et entrée dans le parc par le nord ?
J'ai passé une semaine entière à Palm Springs en avril dernier et je n'ai même pas utilisé l'aerial tramway. Rapport qualité /prix pas à la hauteur selon moi: une fois au sommet on a une vue que vers l'est, sur la vallée que l'on vient de quitter. C'est vrai qu'en montant on a une vue sur 360°. À vous de décider. Je conçois que pour les enfants ça peut être intéressant.
J'ai traversé Joshua Tree National Pk du Nord (West entrance station) au Sud: dans le parc plus on va vers le sud, moins il y a d'arbres de Joshué, arbres qui poussent à partir d'une certaine altitude. Intéressant de faire un piquenique dans le parc.
En remontant du sud vers le nord, vous en avez pour 1 heure de voiture de l'Aerial Tramway jusqu'au Cottonwood Springs Rd, Desert Center.
Presque le même temps par le nord.
Palm Springs aerial tramway, Joshua Tree park (prend pass $80)– nuit à 29 Palms (Bestwestern garden Inn $129) => question 1 : entre Palm Springs & 29 Palms, quelle est la meilleure façon de « voir » Joshua Tree Park ? traverser le parc Joshua du sud vers 29 palms ou remonter par l’ouest et entrée dans le parc par le nord ?
J'ai passé une semaine entière à Palm Springs en avril dernier et je n'ai même pas utilisé l'aerial tramway. Rapport qualité /prix pas à la hauteur selon moi: une fois au sommet on a une vue que vers l'est, sur la vallée que l'on vient de quitter. C'est vrai qu'en montant on a une vue sur 360°. À vous de décider. Je conçois que pour les enfants ça peut être intéressant.
J'ai traversé Joshua Tree National Pk du Nord (West entrance station) au Sud: dans le parc plus on va vers le sud, moins il y a d'arbres de Joshué, arbres qui poussent à partir d'une certaine altitude. Intéressant de faire un piquenique dans le parc.
En remontant du sud vers le nord, vous en avez pour 1 heure de voiture de l'Aerial Tramway jusqu'au Cottonwood Springs Rd, Desert Center.
Presque le même temps par le nord.
Merci pour les réponses : 😎
@ Latomate – google map mis dans mes favoris !! Merci ! 😉
Quant à la location de voiture, je continue de lire sur ce forum tous le tuyaux concernant ce sujet … je pense que nous allons louer par ebookers avec carte visa ‘gold’ sans assurance supplé et avec deux conducteurs .
@frisoulette – je pense que je vais laisser tomber l’idée de faire Chelly – sauf si on quitte GC vers les 9h, on arrive à Chelly pour 13h - on passe 2h à se promener à pied vers la White House (ne fera-t-il pas trop chaud ??), 2h tour en voiture … on quitte Chelly vers les 18h pour arriver à Mex. Hat à 20h……. Si on fait GC - Mex. Hat direct, il y a des 'choses' à voir en route ? On m’a dit que le top du top est Monument Valley AVANT le levé du jour. Comme ça on se leve tôt, « fait » M.V. le matin, Navajo National Mon. Et arrive à Page assez tôt pour se détendre au tour du lac.
@Néfer – Peut-être plutôt que de faire le aerial tramway (qui d’ailleurs n’est pas de tout ma tasse de thé (vertige !🤪) – on peut tout simplement se promener à Palm Springs – il me semble qu’il y a un parc aquatique assez fun. Puis direction « southern entrance » pour Joshua Tree pour arriver à 29 Palms le soir.
@ PSI31 – Merci pour tous les liens … donc Navajo Nat Museum / Betatakinnoté entre M.V. et Page - j'ai pris note😉
Quant à la location de voiture, je continue de lire sur ce forum tous le tuyaux concernant ce sujet … je pense que nous allons louer par ebookers avec carte visa ‘gold’ sans assurance supplé et avec deux conducteurs .
@frisoulette – je pense que je vais laisser tomber l’idée de faire Chelly – sauf si on quitte GC vers les 9h, on arrive à Chelly pour 13h - on passe 2h à se promener à pied vers la White House (ne fera-t-il pas trop chaud ??), 2h tour en voiture … on quitte Chelly vers les 18h pour arriver à Mex. Hat à 20h……. Si on fait GC - Mex. Hat direct, il y a des 'choses' à voir en route ? On m’a dit que le top du top est Monument Valley AVANT le levé du jour. Comme ça on se leve tôt, « fait » M.V. le matin, Navajo National Mon. Et arrive à Page assez tôt pour se détendre au tour du lac.
@Néfer – Peut-être plutôt que de faire le aerial tramway (qui d’ailleurs n’est pas de tout ma tasse de thé (vertige !🤪) – on peut tout simplement se promener à Palm Springs – il me semble qu’il y a un parc aquatique assez fun. Puis direction « southern entrance » pour Joshua Tree pour arriver à 29 Palms le soir.
@ PSI31 – Merci pour tous les liens … donc Navajo Nat Museum / Betatakinnoté entre M.V. et Page - j'ai pris note😉
Pour Jour 6 - je ne suis toujours pas décidée comment faire ....
Option 1 - GC --> Mexican Hat via Flagstaff, route 40 puis I 191 prendra 7H 30 (pas mal pour une journée ! ) Mais il y a Meteor Crater et Petrified Forest à visiter en route pour faire des pauses (combien de temps pour voir/faire/visiter ces sites ?). Par contre il n'y aura pas assez de temps pour visiter Chelly.
Option 2 - GC --> Mexican Hat via Chelly (6h30 en tout) (direct http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&hl=fr&geocode=&saddr=grand+canyon+village&daddr=chinle+to:mexican+hat&mra=pi&mrcr=1&doflg=ptk&sll=35.946883, -110.846558&sspn=2.250141, 5.141602&ie=UTF8&ll=36.509636, -110.802612&spn=2.234011, 5.141602&z=8) Ce qui permettra 4h30 de route le matin - visite de Chelly (4hrs) puis 2h pour arriver à Mexican Hat ....
Option 3 - GC --> Mexican Hat direct par la 160 = 3 h 45 - (permet une demi journée de plus à GC) Rien à voir en route ??
Devant ces trois choix, quelle option prendriez-vous ?
Option 1 - GC --> Mexican Hat via Flagstaff, route 40 puis I 191 prendra 7H 30 (pas mal pour une journée ! ) Mais il y a Meteor Crater et Petrified Forest à visiter en route pour faire des pauses (combien de temps pour voir/faire/visiter ces sites ?). Par contre il n'y aura pas assez de temps pour visiter Chelly.
Option 2 - GC --> Mexican Hat via Chelly (6h30 en tout) (direct http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&hl=fr&geocode=&saddr=grand+canyon+village&daddr=chinle+to:mexican+hat&mra=pi&mrcr=1&doflg=ptk&sll=35.946883, -110.846558&sspn=2.250141, 5.141602&ie=UTF8&ll=36.509636, -110.802612&spn=2.234011, 5.141602&z=8) Ce qui permettra 4h30 de route le matin - visite de Chelly (4hrs) puis 2h pour arriver à Mexican Hat ....
Option 3 - GC --> Mexican Hat direct par la 160 = 3 h 45 - (permet une demi journée de plus à GC) Rien à voir en route ??
Devant ces trois choix, quelle option prendriez-vous ?
Bonjour,
je pense que nous allons louer par ebookers avec carte visa ‘gold’ sans assurance supplé et avec deux conducteurs .
Attention aux exclusions d'assurance, selon la catégorie de voiture, avec la Gold !!! http://www.mastercard.com/...e_GOLD_MC_010106.pdf
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EXCLUSIONS PARTICULIERES
OUTRE LES EXCLUSIONS COMMUNES, SONT EGALEMENT EXCLUES DE LA GARANTIE LES CONSEQUENCES DES CIRCONSTANCES ET EVENEMENTS SUIVANTS: 4. LA LOCATION DES SEULS VEHICULES SUIVANTS : TOUS LES VEHICULES D’UNE VALEUR A NEUF DE PLUS DE 50.000 €, LES VOITURES DE COLLECTION DE PLUS DE 20 ANS OU DONT LA PRODUCTION A ETE ARRETEE DEPUIS PLUS DE 10 ANS PAR LE CONSTRUCTEUR, LES VEHICULES DE PLUS DE 3, 5 T DE POIDS TOTAL EN CHARGE ET/OU DE PLUS DE 8M3 DE VOLUME UTILE, LES VEHICULES DE LOISIRS : VEHICULES TOUT-TERRAIN OU 4X4, VEHICULES A 2 OU 3 ROUES, LES CAMPINGS CARS ET CARAVANES, QUAD, LA LOCATION SIMULTANEE DE PLUS D’UN VEHICULE, LA LOCATION REGULIERE DE VEHICULES UTILITAIRES A USAGE DE LIVRAISON, COURSES, DEMENAGEMENT, LA LOCATION DES VEHICULES AU DELA DE 60 JOURS CONSECUTIFS AU TITRE D’UN MEME VEHICULE, MEME SI LADITE LOCATION EST CONSTITUEE DE PLUSIEURS CONTRATS SUCCESSIFS,
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OUTRE LES EXCLUSIONS COMMUNES, SONT EGALEMENT EXCLUES DE LA GARANTIE LES CONSEQUENCES DES CIRCONSTANCES ET EVENEMENTS SUIVANTS: 4. LA LOCATION DES SEULS VEHICULES SUIVANTS : TOUS LES VEHICULES D’UNE VALEUR A NEUF DE PLUS DE 50.000 €, LES VOITURES DE COLLECTION DE PLUS DE 20 ANS OU DONT LA PRODUCTION A ETE ARRETEE DEPUIS PLUS DE 10 ANS PAR LE CONSTRUCTEUR, LES VEHICULES DE PLUS DE 3, 5 T DE POIDS TOTAL EN CHARGE ET/OU DE PLUS DE 8M3 DE VOLUME UTILE, LES VEHICULES DE LOISIRS : VEHICULES TOUT-TERRAIN OU 4X4, VEHICULES A 2 OU 3 ROUES, LES CAMPINGS CARS ET CARAVANES, QUAD, LA LOCATION SIMULTANEE DE PLUS D’UN VEHICULE, LA LOCATION REGULIERE DE VEHICULES UTILITAIRES A USAGE DE LIVRAISON, COURSES, DEMENAGEMENT, LA LOCATION DES VEHICULES AU DELA DE 60 JOURS CONSECUTIFS AU TITRE D’UN MEME VEHICULE, MEME SI LADITE LOCATION EST CONSTITUEE DE PLUSIEURS CONTRATS SUCCESSIFS,
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Hello! The itinerary is pretty much set for August 2026. Yeah, I know it’s gonna be *super* hot. But it’s the only time we can get away.
So, here’s the plan: Montpellier-CDG-Dallas.
Stay from July 31 to August 26, 2026: Car rental – check, Hotels – check, Itinerary – almost check, Photo gear – check, Budget – check, 🤪 Meal planning – meh, we’ll see... Walmart, of course, for the cooler when we arrive.
And now, without too much detail...
Fort Worth: The Longhorns and the Stockyards; JR’s ranch (for the missus); Medal of Honor Museum – Arlington.
Houston and NASA Space Center: See the Gulf of Mexico/America.
San Antonio and the missions.
Fort Stockton for an overnight stop.
El Paso via Guadalupe Mountains: El Paso and White Sands.
Tucson and the Pima Air & Space Museum: Tombstone, Bisbee.
Phoenix:
Still working on the program.
Sedona: Round trip around the area via Flagstaff and Williams, or the Grand Canyon (already done) – we’ll decide on the spot.
Albuquerque: Santa Fe, Turquoise Trail, Los Alamos.
Amarillo via Route 66: Old Route 66 in the city; Big Texas Ranch Steak 😏.
Dallas: JFK Museum; Perot Museum; West End district.
And through it all – the road, the road, and more road!!!
We’ll adapt day by day based on our mental and physical state (we’re not exactly spring chickens).
Return to France: Dallas-Montpellier via CDG.
Cheers!
So, here’s the plan: Montpellier-CDG-Dallas.
Stay from July 31 to August 26, 2026: Car rental – check, Hotels – check, Itinerary – almost check, Photo gear – check, Budget – check, 🤪 Meal planning – meh, we’ll see... Walmart, of course, for the cooler when we arrive.
And now, without too much detail...
Fort Worth: The Longhorns and the Stockyards; JR’s ranch (for the missus); Medal of Honor Museum – Arlington.
Houston and NASA Space Center: See the Gulf of Mexico/America.
San Antonio and the missions.
Fort Stockton for an overnight stop.
El Paso via Guadalupe Mountains: El Paso and White Sands.
Tucson and the Pima Air & Space Museum: Tombstone, Bisbee.
Phoenix:
Still working on the program.
Sedona: Round trip around the area via Flagstaff and Williams, or the Grand Canyon (already done) – we’ll decide on the spot.
Albuquerque: Santa Fe, Turquoise Trail, Los Alamos.
Amarillo via Route 66: Old Route 66 in the city; Big Texas Ranch Steak 😏.
Dallas: JFK Museum; Perot Museum; West End district.
And through it all – the road, the road, and more road!!!
We’ll adapt day by day based on our mental and physical state (we’re not exactly spring chickens).
Return to France: Dallas-Montpellier via CDG.
Cheers!
hi everyone
I’m planning a world trip and I’m looking for great tips on accommodation in the United States.
Do you have any good deals to share, please?
thanks
Hello everyone! Really damaged due to flooding caused by runoff after forest fires (a total mess!), does anyone in this friendly forum have any updates on the Apache Trail between Apache Junction and Roosevelt Dam? Is there still a section of the road that’s tough to navigate?
Best,
Best,
Hi there,
We're leaving at the end of June and will be driving the route between Buffalo and Cody. We’ve already booked our accommodations and a rodeo in Cody, but during the day, we’ll be driving between the two and I’m unsure about the itinerary. Which route do you think is the most pleasant, interesting, or scenic between: - The northern route via Highway 14 with Sheridan, Lowell, etc. - The southern route with Highways 16/20/14, passing by Loaf Mountain Overlook, Powder River Pass, Ten Sleep Canyon...
We’ll be in a car, so we should be able to drive on any road. Thanks for your input!
Laura
We're leaving at the end of June and will be driving the route between Buffalo and Cody. We’ve already booked our accommodations and a rodeo in Cody, but during the day, we’ll be driving between the two and I’m unsure about the itinerary. Which route do you think is the most pleasant, interesting, or scenic between: - The northern route via Highway 14 with Sheridan, Lowell, etc. - The southern route with Highways 16/20/14, passing by Loaf Mountain Overlook, Powder River Pass, Ten Sleep Canyon...
We’ll be in a car, so we should be able to drive on any road. Thanks for your input!
Laura
Hi everyone! 🙂
I’m almost done planning our September road trip. After our 3-night visit to Sequoia, we’ll have a stopover night in Coalinga (to break up the drive). We’ll be staying two nights in Monterey and would like to stop along the way to visit one side of Pinnacles National Park. We’re torn between the West entrance and the East entrance, and we’d like to do a short hike of no more than 2 hours since we don’t want to arrive too late in Monterey.
This park is split into two distinct zones with no connection between them, and the mileage from Coalinga to Monterey is pretty much the same for both. Which area do you recommend visiting—east or west? And which route is the most scenic?
I’ve spotted two short hikes: - East: Moses Spring to Rim Trail Loop - West: Balconies Cliffs Cave Loop
Has anyone been there, or do you have another hike to suggest?
Thanks in advance, and have a great afternoon! Marcalamar 🙂
I’m almost done planning our September road trip. After our 3-night visit to Sequoia, we’ll have a stopover night in Coalinga (to break up the drive). We’ll be staying two nights in Monterey and would like to stop along the way to visit one side of Pinnacles National Park. We’re torn between the West entrance and the East entrance, and we’d like to do a short hike of no more than 2 hours since we don’t want to arrive too late in Monterey.
This park is split into two distinct zones with no connection between them, and the mileage from Coalinga to Monterey is pretty much the same for both. Which area do you recommend visiting—east or west? And which route is the most scenic?
I’ve spotted two short hikes: - East: Moses Spring to Rim Trail Loop - West: Balconies Cliffs Cave Loop
Has anyone been there, or do you have another hike to suggest?
Thanks in advance, and have a great afternoon! Marcalamar 🙂
Hi there,
We’re heading to Las Vegas this summer and would love to rent a classic convertible Cadillac or something similar. Any recommendations? Thanks.
We’re heading to Las Vegas this summer and would love to rent a classic convertible Cadillac or something similar. Any recommendations? Thanks.
Hello everyone,
After our first trip as a young couple to the West in 2007 (yes, that doesn’t make us any younger!), we’re planning to go back in 2028, but this time as a family of four! (We have two boys who’ll be 5½ and 13 years old in the summer of 2028.)
Our plan is to combine a few big cities (SF and LA, maybe San Diego) with national parks and state parks, mostly! Ideally, we’d like to leave at the end of June and head back to France around July 19–20, so we can enjoy the first week of the Olympic Games in Los Angeles.
Since we already did the "loop" in 2007, there are must-see places we absolutely want to revisit—and especially share with our kids: Bryce Canyon, Yosemite, and above all, the Grand Canyon, which is still the most incredible thing I’ve ever seen on Earth!
On the other hand, some places didn’t leave a big impression on us for various reasons, so we’re not making them a priority: Antelope Canyon, Monument Valley, for example.
We’re planning ahead, but might as well be smart about it😏
Do you have any tips for a fun and doable itinerary over about 20–25 days with kids, without rushing?
Thanks in advance for your feedback😉
After our first trip as a young couple to the West in 2007 (yes, that doesn’t make us any younger!), we’re planning to go back in 2028, but this time as a family of four! (We have two boys who’ll be 5½ and 13 years old in the summer of 2028.)
Our plan is to combine a few big cities (SF and LA, maybe San Diego) with national parks and state parks, mostly! Ideally, we’d like to leave at the end of June and head back to France around July 19–20, so we can enjoy the first week of the Olympic Games in Los Angeles.
Since we already did the "loop" in 2007, there are must-see places we absolutely want to revisit—and especially share with our kids: Bryce Canyon, Yosemite, and above all, the Grand Canyon, which is still the most incredible thing I’ve ever seen on Earth!
On the other hand, some places didn’t leave a big impression on us for various reasons, so we’re not making them a priority: Antelope Canyon, Monument Valley, for example.
We’re planning ahead, but might as well be smart about it😏
Do you have any tips for a fun and doable itinerary over about 20–25 days with kids, without rushing?
Thanks in advance for your feedback😉
Hi everyone! 🙂
Just a quick question about King Canyon and Sequoia National Park.
Before our night in Miramonte, we plan to visit King Canyon. The next stop will be two nights in Three Rivers to explore Sequoia National Park. I wanted to go all the way to Roaring River Falls on the King Canyon Scenic Byway and then turn back to head to Miramonte. Since we’re coming from Oakhurst, Google Maps says it’s 300 km and 5 hours of driving. Since we also want to hike to see the sequoias (Big Stump Area and Grand Grove) before tackling the King Canyon Scenic Byway, the timing’s going to be tight. How far do you recommend going before turning back to miss as few points of interest as possible on the King Canyon Scenic Byway? Thanks for your advice, and have a great evening!
Marcalamar 🙂
Hi everyone!
After years of hoping, waiting, planning, then changing, saving, and searching for the best possible route... we're FINALLY off this summer for a 5-week road trip in the West.
I had planned a trip to Colorado in 2021 but canceled due to COVID, so with time passing and my eldest’s high school graduation approaching fast, I figured it was now or never!
Anyway, the itinerary has been modified and extended to please everyone (I’m no longer the only one making decisions!!)
Here’s our final route: Day 1 - 7/12/2026 - Brussels / Los Angeles Day 2 - 7/13/2026 - Los Angeles Day 3 - 7/14/2026 - Los Angeles Day 4 - 7/15/2026 - Los Angeles Day 5 - 7/16/2026 - Los Angeles Day 6 - 7/17/2026 - Los Angeles / Kingman Day 7 - 7/18/2026 - Kingman / Grand Canyon Day 8 - 7/19/2026 - Grand Canyon / Page Day 9 - 7/20/2026 - Page Day 10 - 7/21/2026 - Page / Monument Valley Day 11 - 7/22/2026 - Monument Valley / Durango Day 12 - 7/23/2026 - Durango Day 13 - 7/24/2026 - Durango Day 14 - 7/25/2026 - Durango Day 15 - 7/26/2026 - Durango / Glenwood Springs Day 16 - 7/27/2026 - Glenwood Springs Day 17 - 7/28/2026 - Glenwood Springs / Moab Day 18 - 7/29/2026 - Moab Day 19 - 7/30/2026 - Moab Day 20 - 7/31/2026 - Moab Day 21 - 8/1/2026 - Moab Day 22 - 8/2/2026 - Moab / Vernal Day 23 - 8/3/2026 - Vernal / Grand Teton Day 24 - 8/4/2026 - Grand Teton Day 25 - 8/5/2026 - Grand Teton / Cody Day 26 - 8/6/2026 - Cody / Yellowstone Day 27 - 8/7/2026 - Yellowstone Day 28 - 8/8/2026 - Yellowstone Day 29 - 8/9/2026 - Yellowstone Day 30 - 8/10/2026 - Yellowstone / Salt Lake City Day 31 - 8/11/2026 - Salt Lake City / Bryce Canyon Day 32 - 8/12/2026 - Bryce Canyon / Zion Day 33 - 8/13/2026 - Zion Day 34 - 8/14/2026 - Zion Day 35 - 8/15/2026 - Zion / Las Vegas Day 36 - 8/16/2026 - Las Vegas Day 37 - 8/17/2026 - Las Vegas / Los Angeles Day 38 - 8/18/2026 - Los Angeles Day 39 - 8/19/2026 - Los Angeles / Brussels Day 40 - 8/20/2026 - Brussels / Home
We’ll be alternating between house swaps, motels, and campgrounds. I’ve booked all the accommodations (except the campground at Bryce since sunset bookings open only 14 days in advance) and the first activities, as well as the most touristy ones.
I’m currently putting together my day-by-day roadbook and having some trouble planning certain days, like in LA or Las Vegas. Choosing hikes isn’t easy either—it’s tough to decide!
We’re really excited but could definitely use your help with choices and optimizations!!
I had planned a trip to Colorado in 2021 but canceled due to COVID, so with time passing and my eldest’s high school graduation approaching fast, I figured it was now or never!
Anyway, the itinerary has been modified and extended to please everyone (I’m no longer the only one making decisions!!)
Here’s our final route: Day 1 - 7/12/2026 - Brussels / Los Angeles Day 2 - 7/13/2026 - Los Angeles Day 3 - 7/14/2026 - Los Angeles Day 4 - 7/15/2026 - Los Angeles Day 5 - 7/16/2026 - Los Angeles Day 6 - 7/17/2026 - Los Angeles / Kingman Day 7 - 7/18/2026 - Kingman / Grand Canyon Day 8 - 7/19/2026 - Grand Canyon / Page Day 9 - 7/20/2026 - Page Day 10 - 7/21/2026 - Page / Monument Valley Day 11 - 7/22/2026 - Monument Valley / Durango Day 12 - 7/23/2026 - Durango Day 13 - 7/24/2026 - Durango Day 14 - 7/25/2026 - Durango Day 15 - 7/26/2026 - Durango / Glenwood Springs Day 16 - 7/27/2026 - Glenwood Springs Day 17 - 7/28/2026 - Glenwood Springs / Moab Day 18 - 7/29/2026 - Moab Day 19 - 7/30/2026 - Moab Day 20 - 7/31/2026 - Moab Day 21 - 8/1/2026 - Moab Day 22 - 8/2/2026 - Moab / Vernal Day 23 - 8/3/2026 - Vernal / Grand Teton Day 24 - 8/4/2026 - Grand Teton Day 25 - 8/5/2026 - Grand Teton / Cody Day 26 - 8/6/2026 - Cody / Yellowstone Day 27 - 8/7/2026 - Yellowstone Day 28 - 8/8/2026 - Yellowstone Day 29 - 8/9/2026 - Yellowstone Day 30 - 8/10/2026 - Yellowstone / Salt Lake City Day 31 - 8/11/2026 - Salt Lake City / Bryce Canyon Day 32 - 8/12/2026 - Bryce Canyon / Zion Day 33 - 8/13/2026 - Zion Day 34 - 8/14/2026 - Zion Day 35 - 8/15/2026 - Zion / Las Vegas Day 36 - 8/16/2026 - Las Vegas Day 37 - 8/17/2026 - Las Vegas / Los Angeles Day 38 - 8/18/2026 - Los Angeles Day 39 - 8/19/2026 - Los Angeles / Brussels Day 40 - 8/20/2026 - Brussels / Home
We’ll be alternating between house swaps, motels, and campgrounds. I’ve booked all the accommodations (except the campground at Bryce since sunset bookings open only 14 days in advance) and the first activities, as well as the most touristy ones.
I’m currently putting together my day-by-day roadbook and having some trouble planning certain days, like in LA or Las Vegas. Choosing hikes isn’t easy either—it’s tough to decide!
We’re really excited but could definitely use your help with choices and optimizations!!
Hello.
I’d like to travel along I-15N from San Diego to Las Vegas with my mom, who’s 67. We’ve explored Northern California and the California Coast over the past two years and now want to continue through the desert.
There are several attractions along the way: - Mormon Rocks - Desert Discovery Center and visit the Old Woman meteorite - Joshua Tree National Park - Mojave Desert - Mojave National Preserve - Anza-Borrego Desert State Park - Silverwood Lake
My mom has back issues that prevent her from hiking or walking on trails with elevation changes. Is it possible to visit these places by car, or are the routes flat enough?
I’d love for her to experience the desert with an itinerary adapted to her condition. I’m also open to other points of interest that aren’t mentioned. We have 3-4 days for the trip, so we’re not in a rush—just want to explore.
Thanks so much. The trip would be in fall 2026
There are several attractions along the way: - Mormon Rocks - Desert Discovery Center and visit the Old Woman meteorite - Joshua Tree National Park - Mojave Desert - Mojave National Preserve - Anza-Borrego Desert State Park - Silverwood Lake
My mom has back issues that prevent her from hiking or walking on trails with elevation changes. Is it possible to visit these places by car, or are the routes flat enough?
I’d love for her to experience the desert with an itinerary adapted to her condition. I’m also open to other points of interest that aren’t mentioned. We have 3-4 days for the trip, so we’re not in a rush—just want to explore.
Thanks so much. The trip would be in fall 2026
Hi there,
I’d love to take a road trip and visit Nova Scotia. I’d appreciate some info on the best cities to see and the most interesting spots. The trip should last about 10 to 15 days, staying in hotels or motels. Thanks in advance!
I’d love to take a road trip and visit Nova Scotia. I’d appreciate some info on the best cities to see and the most interesting spots. The trip should last about 10 to 15 days, staying in hotels or motels. Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
Quick question—I’m heading to New York soon and I’d love to know if you guys have any recommendations for websites where I can buy concert tickets?
Quick question—I’m heading to New York soon and I’d love to know if you guys have any recommendations for websites where I can buy concert tickets?
Hi there,
We’re being relocated to Saint Pierre and Miquelon. We’ll be taking the flight from Nantes to Montreal and then from Montreal to Saint Pierre. Could you recommend a hotel near the departure terminal that allows dogs?
Thanks!
We’re being relocated to Saint Pierre and Miquelon. We’ll be taking the flight from Nantes to Montreal and then from Montreal to Saint Pierre. Could you recommend a hotel near the departure terminal that allows dogs?
Thanks!
Hi,
My 16-year-old son is flying to Grand Rapids with other kids his age. There’s a layover in Detroit. There’s no unaccompanied minor service available. Is it pretty easy to navigate Detroit Airport to catch the connecting flight to Grand Rapids (domestic flight)? There are several of them who speak English well.
Thanks for your replies,
Good evening, everyone! 🙂
Just a few last questions to wrap up our Lake Tahoe visit plans.
**Parking:** We’d like to walk to Eagle Falls and then Eagle Lake. I’ve spotted two parking lots that seem close to each other and give access to the trailhead. Where and how do we pay for entry to Emerald Bay State Park and Inspiration Point?
**Viewpoints on the East Side:** Are most of the viewpoints (Balancing Rock, Granite Cave, Bonsai Rock, etc.) right by the road, or do you have to hike to reach them?
**Donner Memorial State Park:** Is it worth making a detour to Truckee to visit this park and the Truckee historic downtown?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
**Parking:** We’d like to walk to Eagle Falls and then Eagle Lake. I’ve spotted two parking lots that seem close to each other and give access to the trailhead. Where and how do we pay for entry to Emerald Bay State Park and Inspiration Point?
**Viewpoints on the East Side:** Are most of the viewpoints (Balancing Rock, Granite Cave, Bonsai Rock, etc.) right by the road, or do you have to hike to reach them?
**Donner Memorial State Park:** Is it worth making a detour to Truckee to visit this park and the Truckee historic downtown?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
Hi there. I'm shocked by the price of the Upper Antelope Canyon tour—$175 for less than an hour… You might say, "if you can’t afford it…" But the real question is whether it’s really worth it, because $350 for two makes me feel like I’m getting ripped off. For those who’ve done both Lower and Upper, can you tell me if the price difference is really justified? Thanks
Hi everyone! 🙂
As you can see, we're heading back from September 6th to the 27th.
Everything’s booked for September—flights, accommodations, and the car. As I plan, I’ll be asking the experts for help. This is our second trip to California, but most of the stops are new to us.
We’ll start directly from San Francisco to our first overnight stop, Davis, before heading to Lassen Volcanic Park for 4 nights. Our flight lands at 12:50 PM.
Here’s our itinerary: Day 1: Davis – overnight stop Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen) Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes) Day 6: South Lake Tahoe Day 7: South Lake Tahoe Day 8: Mammoth Lake Day 9: Mammoth Lake Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road Day 11: El Portal Day 12: El Portal Day 13: Oakhurst Day 14: Miramonte Day 15: Three Rivers Day 16: Three Rivers Day 17: Coalinga Day 18: Monterey Day 19: Monterey Day 20: San Francisco Day 21: San Francisco Day 22: Departure
For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned: Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2) Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3) Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4) Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)
I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV? Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?
That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening! Marcalamar 🙂
Here’s our itinerary: Day 1: Davis – overnight stop Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen) Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes) Day 6: South Lake Tahoe Day 7: South Lake Tahoe Day 8: Mammoth Lake Day 9: Mammoth Lake Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road Day 11: El Portal Day 12: El Portal Day 13: Oakhurst Day 14: Miramonte Day 15: Three Rivers Day 16: Three Rivers Day 17: Coalinga Day 18: Monterey Day 19: Monterey Day 20: San Francisco Day 21: San Francisco Day 22: Departure
For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned: Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2) Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3) Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4) Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)
I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV? Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?
That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening! Marcalamar 🙂
Here's a tip for future visitors!
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/3-national-parks-slash-red-tape-americans-boldly-transforming-visitor-entry
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/3-national-parks-slash-red-tape-americans-boldly-transforming-visitor-entry
Hi everyone,
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast. I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October. My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips. I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks to everyone for your advice and help.
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast. I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October. My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips. I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks to everyone for your advice and help.
Thanks for advising me on the booking—should I reserve a room in the hotel or go for a cabin for the best view?
Should I get breakfast or not?
What do you think of the restaurant?
Hello, if the off-the-beaten-path enthusiasts are still around 😉, I’d love some info on tackling these trails. I’m not super familiar with the rules, risks, or what to expect—I’m looking for firsthand experience from folks who’ve done it on their own once or multiple times.
Hi everyone!
I’m planning a week-long family trip to NYC in October 2026. The focus is on museums and soaking up the New York vibe. I’ve been checking Airbnb, but the prices in Manhattan are through the roof. Since I don’t know NYC well, is it "wise" to look outside Manhattan? Any neighborhoods you’d recommend?
Hello,
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas) T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC) W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV) F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Christophe
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas) T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC) W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV) F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Christophe
Hi North America forum crew,
Just a little post that might interest some of you:
Travelers to the United States | Photo Now Mandatory Upon Entry and Exit | La Presse
Hi everyone.
I assume many of you already know, but the America the Beautiful annual pass, which was $80, will increase to $250 starting January 1, 2026.
So if you're planning to travel before the end of December 2026, it's in your best interest to buy your pass in December 2025, since it will still cost $80 and be valid until the end of December 2026 if you purchase it in December 2025.
This price increase only applies to non-U.S. residents.
Additionally, for those who planned to visit just one park, a $100 surcharge per person will apply to access a list of 11 national parks... For example, if there are 4 of you in a car, you’ll have to pay $35 + $400, which comes to $435 to visit one of the 11 parks on the list (I don’t have all of them... Bryce, Zion, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.). Total madness.
The goal is to push people who only visit one park into buying the annual pass.
Last point: free entry days are over for non-residents!
That’s all for now.
I assume many of you already know, but the America the Beautiful annual pass, which was $80, will increase to $250 starting January 1, 2026.
So if you're planning to travel before the end of December 2026, it's in your best interest to buy your pass in December 2025, since it will still cost $80 and be valid until the end of December 2026 if you purchase it in December 2025.
This price increase only applies to non-U.S. residents.
Additionally, for those who planned to visit just one park, a $100 surcharge per person will apply to access a list of 11 national parks... For example, if there are 4 of you in a car, you’ll have to pay $35 + $400, which comes to $435 to visit one of the 11 parks on the list (I don’t have all of them... Bryce, Zion, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.). Total madness.
The goal is to push people who only visit one park into buying the annual pass.
Last point: free entry days are over for non-residents!
That’s all for now.
Hi everyone, I’m traveling to Los Angeles and would like to rent a vehicle at the airport. However, I have a Boursobank Ultim deferred debit card, so I’d love to know if it’s possible for those who’ve experienced this recently. Thanks for the info!
Hi VF community,
I’m planning a week in S.F. in April 2026 and I can’t figure out how to tell the cable cars—of which I understand there are three lines—apart from the trams, which I think number seven. I can’t find their individual numbers or routes anywhere.
Could someone shed some light on this for me? Thanks in advance.
Wishing you all a Merry Christmas and a wonderful 2026 full of amazing travels. Cheers, Régine
I’m planning a week in S.F. in April 2026 and I can’t figure out how to tell the cable cars—of which I understand there are three lines—apart from the trams, which I think number seven. I can’t find their individual numbers or routes anywhere.
Could someone shed some light on this for me? Thanks in advance.
Wishing you all a Merry Christmas and a wonderful 2026 full of amazing travels. Cheers, Régine
Hi,
I’m planning a road trip through the American national parks starting from Denver in June 2026.
The price of the pass is jumping from 80 € to 250 € on January 1st, 2026!!!
Is it possible to buy the pass online before the end of the year to lock in the 80 € rate? If so, where and how do I go about it?
Thanks for your tips.
Arnale
Hi there,
I’m planning a road trip for July 2026 in northern Florida. Could you let me know if my itinerary makes sense? Day 1: Orlando Day 2: Amelia Island Day 3: Amelia Island Day 4: Tallahassee Day 5: Panama City Beach Day 6: Panama City Beach (visit to Destin) Day 7: Crystal River (stop in Cedar Key on the way) Day 8: Crystal River Day 9: Anna Maria (stop in Clearwater) Day 10: Anna Maria (St. Pete) Day 11: Anna Maria Day 12: Orlando Day 13: Orlando Day 14: Orlando Day 15: Departure
Thanks in advance for your tips!
I’m planning a road trip for July 2026 in northern Florida. Could you let me know if my itinerary makes sense? Day 1: Orlando Day 2: Amelia Island Day 3: Amelia Island Day 4: Tallahassee Day 5: Panama City Beach Day 6: Panama City Beach (visit to Destin) Day 7: Crystal River (stop in Cedar Key on the way) Day 8: Crystal River Day 9: Anna Maria (stop in Clearwater) Day 10: Anna Maria (St. Pete) Day 11: Anna Maria Day 12: Orlando Day 13: Orlando Day 14: Orlando Day 15: Departure
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Hey everyone!
We just finished 9 days in the American West and wanted to share our experience because we had an amazing time.
I know some of you might ask, why use an agency? Honestly, we didn’t really feel like doing all the driving and planning, especially since we didn’t know the area at all. And since our English isn’t great, having French-speaking guides was a big comfort.
We found Emmanuelle and Isabelle, and wow, they were fantastic. It was just the two of us with them, so it was a truly VIP, ultra-personalized experience. They treated us like royalty from start to finish. These two live in Las Vegas and know the region like the back of their hand. They told us they’ve spent over 15 years exploring every corner of the American West, and it really shows. Their knowledge of geology, park history, and local anecdotes is just impressive. It’s nothing like someone reciting a memorized script. They answer all your questions and really adapt to what you want to see or do.
What we really loved: the vehicle was super comfortable, and the little details made a difference—like snacks and even a homemade cake! Though, to be fair, we devoured the cake right away, so that counts.
Since they know the sites inside out, they took us at the right times to avoid crowds. So we could enjoy peaceful picnics at Grand Canyon viewpoints without being packed in with 200 people. Plus, on top of the must-see spots, they showed us some hidden gems that were absolutely stunning—places we never would’ve found on our own. They’re true locals who know all the best tips.
The service was really personalized. They adapted to our pace and preferences, and we could stop whenever we wanted to take photos. It’s the luxury of being in a small private group—you’re not just a number on a big bus. In short, we really felt like we were traveling with friends rather than professional guides. Everything’s included in the price (hotel pickup, meals, park entries, etc.), so the value for money is fair.
We loved it so much that we’re already planning to come back next year to explore other areas with them. I think we’ve caught the American West bug—it’s all we can think about, and we can’t wait to return.
If you’re looking for a French-speaking tour with real personalized service and guides who know the region like no one else, we highly recommend them. We had unforgettable moments. They also design road trips for those who don’t want a guide. And they handled our hotel reservations in Las Vegas too. If you want genuine advice from friendly locals, we’re giving them a 200% recommendation!
We just finished 9 days in the American West and wanted to share our experience because we had an amazing time.
I know some of you might ask, why use an agency? Honestly, we didn’t really feel like doing all the driving and planning, especially since we didn’t know the area at all. And since our English isn’t great, having French-speaking guides was a big comfort.
We found Emmanuelle and Isabelle, and wow, they were fantastic. It was just the two of us with them, so it was a truly VIP, ultra-personalized experience. They treated us like royalty from start to finish. These two live in Las Vegas and know the region like the back of their hand. They told us they’ve spent over 15 years exploring every corner of the American West, and it really shows. Their knowledge of geology, park history, and local anecdotes is just impressive. It’s nothing like someone reciting a memorized script. They answer all your questions and really adapt to what you want to see or do.
What we really loved: the vehicle was super comfortable, and the little details made a difference—like snacks and even a homemade cake! Though, to be fair, we devoured the cake right away, so that counts.
Since they know the sites inside out, they took us at the right times to avoid crowds. So we could enjoy peaceful picnics at Grand Canyon viewpoints without being packed in with 200 people. Plus, on top of the must-see spots, they showed us some hidden gems that were absolutely stunning—places we never would’ve found on our own. They’re true locals who know all the best tips.
The service was really personalized. They adapted to our pace and preferences, and we could stop whenever we wanted to take photos. It’s the luxury of being in a small private group—you’re not just a number on a big bus. In short, we really felt like we were traveling with friends rather than professional guides. Everything’s included in the price (hotel pickup, meals, park entries, etc.), so the value for money is fair.
We loved it so much that we’re already planning to come back next year to explore other areas with them. I think we’ve caught the American West bug—it’s all we can think about, and we can’t wait to return.
If you’re looking for a French-speaking tour with real personalized service and guides who know the region like no one else, we highly recommend them. We had unforgettable moments. They also design road trips for those who don’t want a guide. And they handled our hotel reservations in Las Vegas too. If you want genuine advice from friendly locals, we’re giving them a 200% recommendation!