j 1/ Paris - San Francisco j 2/ San francisco - San siméon j 3/ San Siméon - Santa Monica j 4/ Sante Monica - Los angeles (visite de 4 h avec T.O.) j 5/ Los Angeles - Grand Canyon j 6/ Grand Canyon - route pour PAGE en fin d'après midi j 7/ Page : Horseshoes bend - antélope canyon - marbles c. - lee ferry - bateau sur lac Powell ? j 8/ plan A : the wave si on a de la chance - plan B : ??? - route pour Mexican hat j 9/ Mexican hat - goosenedk - muley point - valley of the god - monument valley - Mexican Hat j 10/ Mexican Hat - Canyonlands : the needles - Moab j 11/ Arches j 12/ Matinée survol Canyonland/GC/Lac Powell - apres midi Island in the sky 4/4 avec agence locale j 13/ Moab - Little wild horse - Hanksville - Torrey j 14/ Torrey - Boulder - Escalante (hole in the rock partie) j 15/ Escalante Bryce - matin : visite bryce - après midi : cottonwood partie j 16/ Bryce : rando Navajo et queen garden - départ pour Zion : visite ? j 17/ Zion : visite - valley of fire en soirée et nuit à Las Vegas J 18/ Las vegas et départ milieu après midi pour Death valley j 19/ Death valley : visite et départ pour Lee Vining j 20/ Mono lake - Bodie et route pour Yosemite (tioga pass) j 21 Yosemite j 22 Yosemite - San Fransico : visite j 23 et 24 ; San francisco j 25 fin de soirée : envol pour la France
Avis sur circuit de vingt-cinq jours dans l'Ouest américain?
by Brihen
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour,
Fortement inspirée des divers circuits et conseils de ce forum (et après les propos rassurants des forumeurs concernant mes problèmes de langues..) j'ai concocté ce circuit qui devrait avoir lieu du 21 mai au 15 juin 2009.
Je suis consciente que c'est un peu speed, mais que modifier, voire que supprimer ? (enfin pas trop quand même !)
Nous envisageons quelques petites rando - niveau facile à moyen - 2 à 3 h/jour sauf pour Bryce, The wave, the needles où la beauté du site vaut bien, je pense, un effort supplémentaire.
Je vous remercie pour vos suggestions et conseils, ils seront les bienvenus
j 1/ Paris - San Francisco j 2/ San francisco - San siméon j 3/ San Siméon - Santa Monica j 4/ Sante Monica - Los angeles (visite de 4 h avec T.O.) j 5/ Los Angeles - Grand Canyon j 6/ Grand Canyon - route pour PAGE en fin d'après midi j 7/ Page : Horseshoes bend - antélope canyon - marbles c. - lee ferry - bateau sur lac Powell ? j 8/ plan A : the wave si on a de la chance - plan B : ??? - route pour Mexican hat j 9/ Mexican hat - goosenedk - muley point - valley of the god - monument valley - Mexican Hat j 10/ Mexican Hat - Canyonlands : the needles - Moab j 11/ Arches j 12/ Matinée survol Canyonland/GC/Lac Powell - apres midi Island in the sky 4/4 avec agence locale j 13/ Moab - Little wild horse - Hanksville - Torrey j 14/ Torrey - Boulder - Escalante (hole in the rock partie) j 15/ Escalante Bryce - matin : visite bryce - après midi : cottonwood partie j 16/ Bryce : rando Navajo et queen garden - départ pour Zion : visite ? j 17/ Zion : visite - valley of fire en soirée et nuit à Las Vegas J 18/ Las vegas et départ milieu après midi pour Death valley j 19/ Death valley : visite et départ pour Lee Vining j 20/ Mono lake - Bodie et route pour Yosemite (tioga pass) j 21 Yosemite j 22 Yosemite - San Fransico : visite j 23 et 24 ; San francisco j 25 fin de soirée : envol pour la France
j 1/ Paris - San Francisco j 2/ San francisco - San siméon j 3/ San Siméon - Santa Monica j 4/ Sante Monica - Los angeles (visite de 4 h avec T.O.) j 5/ Los Angeles - Grand Canyon j 6/ Grand Canyon - route pour PAGE en fin d'après midi j 7/ Page : Horseshoes bend - antélope canyon - marbles c. - lee ferry - bateau sur lac Powell ? j 8/ plan A : the wave si on a de la chance - plan B : ??? - route pour Mexican hat j 9/ Mexican hat - goosenedk - muley point - valley of the god - monument valley - Mexican Hat j 10/ Mexican Hat - Canyonlands : the needles - Moab j 11/ Arches j 12/ Matinée survol Canyonland/GC/Lac Powell - apres midi Island in the sky 4/4 avec agence locale j 13/ Moab - Little wild horse - Hanksville - Torrey j 14/ Torrey - Boulder - Escalante (hole in the rock partie) j 15/ Escalante Bryce - matin : visite bryce - après midi : cottonwood partie j 16/ Bryce : rando Navajo et queen garden - départ pour Zion : visite ? j 17/ Zion : visite - valley of fire en soirée et nuit à Las Vegas J 18/ Las vegas et départ milieu après midi pour Death valley j 19/ Death valley : visite et départ pour Lee Vining j 20/ Mono lake - Bodie et route pour Yosemite (tioga pass) j 21 Yosemite j 22 Yosemite - San Fransico : visite j 23 et 24 ; San francisco j 25 fin de soirée : envol pour la France
carpe diem
Voilà un circuit qui n'a pas été "torché" en 5minutes sur un coin de table....
Comme beaucoup de circuits bien faits difficile de les modifier sans rompre un certain équilibre
mis à part des parties un peu speed on voit bien où sont vos centres d'intérets et ils sont privilégiés...
de quoi faire un trés beau voyage de toute façon...
Voyager, c'est demander d'un coup à la distance ce que le temps ne pourrait nous donner que peu à peu, c'est gagner son procès contre l'habitude.
Bonjour,
nous venons justement de revenir de L'Ouest américain. Notre plus beau souvenir est sans contredit Havasu Falls, nous avons marché 16 km avec nos 3 enfants de 9, 11 et 12 ans pour aller voir le plus beau paysage jamais vu. En fait, c'est dans le grand Canyon, tout au fond, il y a un camping et un hôtel. Nous avons resté 2 nuits. Va sur le sitehttp://www.smartertravel.com/...-Grand.html?id=11115 et tu verras ce que je veux dire, ou sur celui si et clique sur Havasupai
http://www.phschuler.com/usa2006/index.html L'eau est tellement bleu. Aussi, tu peux aller voir Sedonax, un usager de ce site il adore ce coin de pays et il m'a beaucoup conseillé pour mon dernier voyage.
Je viens de me rendre compte que mon premier lien ne fonctionne plus mais si t veux un site français va sur
http://www.ouestusa.fr/ et tu trouveras beaucoup d'info.
Merci pour ton message.
Oui, en effet, j'ai passé pas mal de temps à établir ce circuit, bien aidée par divers guides : routard, michelin....les sites internet et surtout les différentes discussions du forum : c'est une mine d'informations et c'est passionnant - la préparation ça fait aussi partie des joies du voyage : on le vit avant, pendant (j'ai hâte) et après....
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Havasu falls : superbe... paradisiaque. whouaaaaaaaaaaa !
ça me donne vraiment envie d'y aller, le hic c'est où trouver 2 jours supplémentaires ! à moins de zapper la côte californienne et de commencer le circuit à Los Angeles, j'y réfléchis !
L'hôtel dont tu parles était-il ouvert ? sur le site "ouestusa" (quel site !) il était fermé. Dans le camping y a t-il un hébergement possible pour ceux ne possédant pas de tentes ? Je ne me sens pas le courage de descendre et remonter le même jour - sinon je vais "casser" mes gambettes pour le reste du voyage !
Merci
Merci
carpe diem
salut Dommm63,
Avant toute chose, merci pour ton site. C'est super il m'a maché le boulot : j'ai copié ton roadbook, ta fiche de planning et glané des infos. C'est très bien fait et quel gain de temps. Pour Las Vegas : je ne suis pas fan, bien sûr je ne connais pas et peut-être changerai-je d'avis ? Par ailleurs, une nuit de plus à Las vegas me fait zapper balade dans Death Valley et rallonger pas mal le jour 19 qui deviendrait : Las Vegas - Death-valley - Lee Vining : un peu long en distance non ?
Mais peut-être bien que la température en juin dans Death valley me fera zapper tout naturellement les balades ? Sais pas trop quoi faire.....
Avant toute chose, merci pour ton site. C'est super il m'a maché le boulot : j'ai copié ton roadbook, ta fiche de planning et glané des infos. C'est très bien fait et quel gain de temps. Pour Las Vegas : je ne suis pas fan, bien sûr je ne connais pas et peut-être changerai-je d'avis ? Par ailleurs, une nuit de plus à Las vegas me fait zapper balade dans Death Valley et rallonger pas mal le jour 19 qui deviendrait : Las Vegas - Death-valley - Lee Vining : un peu long en distance non ?
Mais peut-être bien que la température en juin dans Death valley me fera zapper tout naturellement les balades ? Sais pas trop quoi faire.....
carpe diem
Salut Brihen,
C'est vrai que ton voyage semble bien torché.
Juste une question, tu n'as pas trop envie de visiter Los Angeles et San Francisco ?
Les quelques heures que tu passeras sur place risquent de te donner des regrets quand tu les quitteras en coup de vent; sauf si tu as prévu d'y revenir plus tard.
Les parcs sont superbes, mais je pense que quelques pauses à L.A. (plages, shoping, visites, attrractions) et San Francisco (peut-être la plus belle ville américaine) seraient un plus dans ce type de voyage.
C'est juste mon avis, mais c'est parfois bien de varier la nature avec les villes.
Et pour gagner un peu de temps, tu peux très bien arriver à San Francisco et repartir de Los Angeles.
A + et bon voyage à toi 😎
C'est vrai que ton voyage semble bien torché.
Juste une question, tu n'as pas trop envie de visiter Los Angeles et San Francisco ?
Les quelques heures que tu passeras sur place risquent de te donner des regrets quand tu les quitteras en coup de vent; sauf si tu as prévu d'y revenir plus tard.
Les parcs sont superbes, mais je pense que quelques pauses à L.A. (plages, shoping, visites, attrractions) et San Francisco (peut-être la plus belle ville américaine) seraient un plus dans ce type de voyage.
C'est juste mon avis, mais c'est parfois bien de varier la nature avec les villes.
Et pour gagner un peu de temps, tu peux très bien arriver à San Francisco et repartir de Los Angeles.
A + et bon voyage à toi 😎
RV (Bluesjake)
I love L.A.
I love L.A.
Ne rajoute rien, ne modifie rien sinon d'ici l'année prochaine tu en seras à la 20ème version sans pouvoir JAMAIS tout caser 😛 et en regrettant jusqu'à la fin !
C'est un bon circuit et tu ne seras pas déçue, t'en fais pas 😎
Eventuellement en J2, je mettrais la nuit à Monterey-Carmel plutôt pour se laisser le temps de visiter ces 2 petites villes + la côte.
En J8 pour ton plan B, prévois MV en fin de journée et Valley of The Gods le lendemain matin pour la lumière à chaque fois.
Eventuellement en J2, je mettrais la nuit à Monterey-Carmel plutôt pour se laisser le temps de visiter ces 2 petites villes + la côte.
En J8 pour ton plan B, prévois MV en fin de journée et Valley of The Gods le lendemain matin pour la lumière à chaque fois.
Tous mes voyages sur : http://www.vazyvite.com/
" Psychologiquement instable donc je ne réponds de rien" : Sa Maman
" Psychologiquement instable donc je ne réponds de rien" : Sa Maman
Salut,
Est-ce que tu réserves tes nuits d'hôtel ? Si non, alors si tu ne peux pas faire the Wave, pars direct sur monument valley (tu décales tout d'un jour) et tu passes un jour de + à LV...
Sinon, c'est pas grave, déjà en une nuit, tu aura un bon aperçu dy Struip. Privilégie the Venitian, le Caesar Palace, le Bellagio, et le spectacle du Treasure island.
Pour Death Valley, inutile d'y arriver trop tôt, la chaleur sera certainement insoutenable pour faire une rando en plein après-midi. Idem le lendemain, lève toi tôt pour le lever de soleil sur Zabriskie Point, fais quelques visites/balades, et direction Lee Vining en fin de matinée.
A+ Dom
Est-ce que tu réserves tes nuits d'hôtel ? Si non, alors si tu ne peux pas faire the Wave, pars direct sur monument valley (tu décales tout d'un jour) et tu passes un jour de + à LV...
Sinon, c'est pas grave, déjà en une nuit, tu aura un bon aperçu dy Struip. Privilégie the Venitian, le Caesar Palace, le Bellagio, et le spectacle du Treasure island.
Pour Death Valley, inutile d'y arriver trop tôt, la chaleur sera certainement insoutenable pour faire une rando en plein après-midi. Idem le lendemain, lève toi tôt pour le lever de soleil sur Zabriskie Point, fais quelques visites/balades, et direction Lee Vining en fin de matinée.
A+ Dom
Oui, il y a un hébergement en hôtel au village indien a environ 2km de là, info sur l'hôtel : http://www.havasupaitribe.com/lodge.html Et oui je crois que tu devrais couché au moins une nuit pour vraiment profiter. C'est sûr que tu as un très beau circuit et je n'ai pas fait tous les parcs que tu désires faire. Mais j'ai fait Grand Canyon, Moab, Arches, Bryce, Mono Lake, Yosemite, Las Vegas, Death Valley, San Francisco, Santa Monica, Los Angeles. Je te conseille de réserver à San Francisco pour visiter la prison d'Alcatraz, nous n'avons pas pu la visiter car, il n'avait plus de place. Pour nous le meilleur souvenir est vraiment Havasu, les parcs sont tous très beaux et assez différents les uns des autres mais Havasu est Exceptionnelle et il est très spéciale de marcher dans le fond du canyon, nous avons vu des chevaux sauvages. Dans les parcs que j'ai fait les deux que j'ai moins aimé c'est Yosemite et Bryce, mais j'ai quand même adoré. À Mono Lake prends le temps de te baigner la salinité de l'eau est à 10% comme la mer morte. Pour le site http://ouestusa.fr/ il est vraiment en fonction, peut-être qu'il avait un problème quand tu l'as essayé.
salut Bluesjake
Dans ce 1er voyage j'ai privilégié les parcs - sauf pour SAN FRANCISCO : 3 jours prévus en fin de parcours. Quant à LOS ANGELES ce sera, il est vrai, vite fait (petit aperçu avec T.O.) : grande ville et un peu "peur" des embouteillages ! et puis pas facile de ficeler le tout en 25 jours ! Quant à faire le circuit dans l'autre sens SFO/LAX j'y ai songé mais avec le risque que le Tioga pass soit fermé...cela m'obligerait à un détour
Bref, pas facile... il faudra revenir - Merci pour ton message
Dans ce 1er voyage j'ai privilégié les parcs - sauf pour SAN FRANCISCO : 3 jours prévus en fin de parcours. Quant à LOS ANGELES ce sera, il est vrai, vite fait (petit aperçu avec T.O.) : grande ville et un peu "peur" des embouteillages ! et puis pas facile de ficeler le tout en 25 jours ! Quant à faire le circuit dans l'autre sens SFO/LAX j'y ai songé mais avec le risque que le Tioga pass soit fermé...cela m'obligerait à un détour
Bref, pas facile... il faudra revenir - Merci pour ton message
carpe diem
Merci Vasyvite
J'ai repris mes "esprits" avec ton message 😉 c'est vrai que j'ai fais l'impasse sur des lieux incontournables mais comme tu le dis : je ne peux pas tout caser !
Je pense avoir compris que dans son ensemble le circuit était assez cohérent..... je vais donc revoir qq petits points et puis stop je garde en l'état.
Pris note pour jours 2 et 8. Je vais maintenant passer à la phase suivante : choix du véhicule, des hôtels/motels.
Bien ton site, je m'en suis aussi inspiré....
Pris note pour jours 2 et 8. Je vais maintenant passer à la phase suivante : choix du véhicule, des hôtels/motels.
Bien ton site, je m'en suis aussi inspiré....
carpe diem
salut Dommm63,
oui, je pense réserver les hôtels avant le départ : chercher chaque soir, après les parcours et les visites ça me "stresse" un peu. Dommage pour la fléxibilité j'en conviens, mais.... et par ailleurs je veux avoir le choix.
Choix surtout en ce qui concerne les prix : je veux trouver des hotels/motels pas trop chers ! ceux qui partent le plus vite je pense. il me faut tirer un peu sur les prix afin que pouvoir m'offir les vol hélico, rafting, 4/4..... ça chiffre déjà pas mal !
Pris note pour Las Vegas et Death Valley - merci
Choix surtout en ce qui concerne les prix : je veux trouver des hotels/motels pas trop chers ! ceux qui partent le plus vite je pense. il me faut tirer un peu sur les prix afin que pouvoir m'offir les vol hélico, rafting, 4/4..... ça chiffre déjà pas mal !
Pris note pour Las Vegas et Death Valley - merci
carpe diem
salut Kriquette1,
Pour le site "ouestusa" oui il est bien en fonction. (super site dans lequel j'ai puisé pas mal d'infos.) Je me suis mal exprimée : je voulais dire que sur la page "Havasu" du site, Thierry indiquait que l'hôtel était (à l'époque) fermé. Je voulais juste m'assurer du contraire.
En effet mon parcours ressemble au tien; une chose m'étonne : que Bryce ne fasse pas partie de tes préférés, bien sûr je suis mal placée pour en parler, je ne connais que les photos !!! mais ça me semble extraordinaire.. j'ai hâte de découvrir tout ça.
Pous SAN FRANCISCO j'y ai prévu 3 jours : cela sera t-il suffisant pour caser "Alcatraz" !!! j'ai lu qq part qu'il fallait déjà 1 journée pour faire la 49 scenic Drive ! Il va falloir faire des choix...
Merci,
Pour le site "ouestusa" oui il est bien en fonction. (super site dans lequel j'ai puisé pas mal d'infos.) Je me suis mal exprimée : je voulais dire que sur la page "Havasu" du site, Thierry indiquait que l'hôtel était (à l'époque) fermé. Je voulais juste m'assurer du contraire.
En effet mon parcours ressemble au tien; une chose m'étonne : que Bryce ne fasse pas partie de tes préférés, bien sûr je suis mal placée pour en parler, je ne connais que les photos !!! mais ça me semble extraordinaire.. j'ai hâte de découvrir tout ça.
Pous SAN FRANCISCO j'y ai prévu 3 jours : cela sera t-il suffisant pour caser "Alcatraz" !!! j'ai lu qq part qu'il fallait déjà 1 journée pour faire la 49 scenic Drive ! Il va falloir faire des choix...
Merci,
carpe diem
Je t'avoue que nous avons pas marché à Bryce, nous avons seulement arrêter aux points d'intérêts, probablement qu'en marchant ce sera mieux. La 49 drive est-ce sur le bord de la côte en passant par Monterey? À San Francisco nous sommes resté qu'un jour car, mon mari n'aime pas trop les grandes villes.
Pour voir la 49 Miles Drive : http://www.onlyinsanfrancisco.com/maps/49miledrive.asp
Elle serpente dans San Francisco
A Monterey c'est la 17 Miles Drive : http://gocalifornia.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?zi=1/XJ&sdn=gocalifornia&cdn=travel&tm=11&gps=52_36_1331_1021&f=00&su=p531.31.150.ip_p531.29.420.ip_p284.8.150.ip_&tt=2&bt=0&bts=0&zu=http%3A//www.pebblebeach.com/page.asp%3Fid%3D1373
Patrick
A Monterey c'est la 17 Miles Drive : http://gocalifornia.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?zi=1/XJ&sdn=gocalifornia&cdn=travel&tm=11&gps=52_36_1331_1021&f=00&su=p531.31.150.ip_p531.29.420.ip_p284.8.150.ip_&tt=2&bt=0&bts=0&zu=http%3A//www.pebblebeach.com/page.asp%3Fid%3D1373
Patrick
On ne vit qu'une fois !
Mes USA 1998 2000 ... : http://sites.google.com/site/heavencanwaitno/
USA 2008 : http://sites.google.com/site/heavencanwaitno/home/usa-2008
USA 2011 : http://sites.google.com/site/heavencanwaitno/home/usa-2011
et voili voilà PSI61 a répondu à ta question sur la 49 scenic drive...
Pour Havasupai : on y réfléchit de plus en plus, quitte à essayer de partir un jour de plus..... (mais là pas sûr du tout). Nous ferions par exemple la descente à pied et la montée en hélico - si j'ai bien traduit le coût hélico serait environ de 100 $ - Par contre Papillon le fait à partir du grand canyon mais l'A/R : 450 $ environ !!! là ce n'est vraiment plus dans mes moyens. 😕 Et puis, la visite en hélico ça perd aussi de son charme - et un tel paradis mérite bien un peu d'effort.
Pour Havasupai : on y réfléchit de plus en plus, quitte à essayer de partir un jour de plus..... (mais là pas sûr du tout). Nous ferions par exemple la descente à pied et la montée en hélico - si j'ai bien traduit le coût hélico serait environ de 100 $ - Par contre Papillon le fait à partir du grand canyon mais l'A/R : 450 $ environ !!! là ce n'est vraiment plus dans mes moyens. 😕 Et puis, la visite en hélico ça perd aussi de son charme - et un tel paradis mérite bien un peu d'effort.
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Bin oui, j'ai calculé sur via michelin ...mapquest .. 😠 et les temps de déplacement ne dépassent pas 3 h voire 3 h 30 (mis à part les J 2-3-4-19-20)
Vous qui connaissez bien ces lieux, pouvez-vous m'en dire plus :
ça ne vous semble pas faisable ??? sachant : que nous seront plusieurs chauffeurs et que nous sommes des "lève tôt" (pas besoin de beaucoup de sommeil : privilège de l'âge !) Merci
Vous qui connaissez bien ces lieux, pouvez-vous m'en dire plus :
ça ne vous semble pas faisable ??? sachant : que nous seront plusieurs chauffeurs et que nous sommes des "lève tôt" (pas besoin de beaucoup de sommeil : privilège de l'âge !) Merci
carpe diem
C'est vrai que la descente à pied vaut le coup, c'est vraiment un trip. Et la remontée en hélico, WOW !!!
Je te souhaite de très belles vacances.
merci kriquette,
Juste une dernière petite question : en + d'havasu falls as-tu fait mooney falls et beaver falls ? D'après les quelques photos sur les sites ça me parait assez hard 😕.... ou n'est-ce qu'une impression ?
Juste une dernière petite question : en + d'havasu falls as-tu fait mooney falls et beaver falls ? D'après les quelques photos sur les sites ça me parait assez hard 😕.... ou n'est-ce qu'une impression ?
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Non, nous n'avons pas fait les autres car, nous étions assez fatigués avec les enfants après la marche. Mais, je ne me souviens pas si je t'ai parlé de Sedonax, un utilisateur de ce site, mais lui y a été plusieurs fois et il pourrait surement t'en parlé. Il m'as beaucoup aidé pour mon voyage et il est vraiment sympatique.
merci pour tout kriquette -
je crois que je vais faire un très beau voyage....
je crois que je vais faire un très beau voyage....
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Fort Stockton for an overnight stop.
El Paso via Guadalupe Mountains: El Paso and White Sands.
Tucson and the Pima Air & Space Museum: Tombstone, Bisbee.
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Hi there,
We're leaving at the end of June and will be driving the route between Buffalo and Cody. We’ve already booked our accommodations and a rodeo in Cody, but during the day, we’ll be driving between the two and I’m unsure about the itinerary. Which route do you think is the most pleasant, interesting, or scenic between: - The northern route via Highway 14 with Sheridan, Lowell, etc. - The southern route with Highways 16/20/14, passing by Loaf Mountain Overlook, Powder River Pass, Ten Sleep Canyon...
We’ll be in a car, so we should be able to drive on any road. Thanks for your input!
Laura
We're leaving at the end of June and will be driving the route between Buffalo and Cody. We’ve already booked our accommodations and a rodeo in Cody, but during the day, we’ll be driving between the two and I’m unsure about the itinerary. Which route do you think is the most pleasant, interesting, or scenic between: - The northern route via Highway 14 with Sheridan, Lowell, etc. - The southern route with Highways 16/20/14, passing by Loaf Mountain Overlook, Powder River Pass, Ten Sleep Canyon...
We’ll be in a car, so we should be able to drive on any road. Thanks for your input!
Laura
Hi everyone! 🙂
I’m almost done planning our September road trip. After our 3-night visit to Sequoia, we’ll have a stopover night in Coalinga (to break up the drive). We’ll be staying two nights in Monterey and would like to stop along the way to visit one side of Pinnacles National Park. We’re torn between the West entrance and the East entrance, and we’d like to do a short hike of no more than 2 hours since we don’t want to arrive too late in Monterey.
This park is split into two distinct zones with no connection between them, and the mileage from Coalinga to Monterey is pretty much the same for both. Which area do you recommend visiting—east or west? And which route is the most scenic?
I’ve spotted two short hikes: - East: Moses Spring to Rim Trail Loop - West: Balconies Cliffs Cave Loop
Has anyone been there, or do you have another hike to suggest?
Thanks in advance, and have a great afternoon! Marcalamar 🙂
I’m almost done planning our September road trip. After our 3-night visit to Sequoia, we’ll have a stopover night in Coalinga (to break up the drive). We’ll be staying two nights in Monterey and would like to stop along the way to visit one side of Pinnacles National Park. We’re torn between the West entrance and the East entrance, and we’d like to do a short hike of no more than 2 hours since we don’t want to arrive too late in Monterey.
This park is split into two distinct zones with no connection between them, and the mileage from Coalinga to Monterey is pretty much the same for both. Which area do you recommend visiting—east or west? And which route is the most scenic?
I’ve spotted two short hikes: - East: Moses Spring to Rim Trail Loop - West: Balconies Cliffs Cave Loop
Has anyone been there, or do you have another hike to suggest?
Thanks in advance, and have a great afternoon! Marcalamar 🙂
Hi there,
We’re heading to Las Vegas this summer and would love to rent a classic convertible Cadillac or something similar. Any recommendations? Thanks.
We’re heading to Las Vegas this summer and would love to rent a classic convertible Cadillac or something similar. Any recommendations? Thanks.
Hello everyone,
After our first trip as a young couple to the West in 2007 (yes, that doesn’t make us any younger!), we’re planning to go back in 2028, but this time as a family of four! (We have two boys who’ll be 5½ and 13 years old in the summer of 2028.)
Our plan is to combine a few big cities (SF and LA, maybe San Diego) with national parks and state parks, mostly! Ideally, we’d like to leave at the end of June and head back to France around July 19–20, so we can enjoy the first week of the Olympic Games in Los Angeles.
Since we already did the "loop" in 2007, there are must-see places we absolutely want to revisit—and especially share with our kids: Bryce Canyon, Yosemite, and above all, the Grand Canyon, which is still the most incredible thing I’ve ever seen on Earth!
On the other hand, some places didn’t leave a big impression on us for various reasons, so we’re not making them a priority: Antelope Canyon, Monument Valley, for example.
We’re planning ahead, but might as well be smart about it😏
Do you have any tips for a fun and doable itinerary over about 20–25 days with kids, without rushing?
Thanks in advance for your feedback😉
After our first trip as a young couple to the West in 2007 (yes, that doesn’t make us any younger!), we’re planning to go back in 2028, but this time as a family of four! (We have two boys who’ll be 5½ and 13 years old in the summer of 2028.)
Our plan is to combine a few big cities (SF and LA, maybe San Diego) with national parks and state parks, mostly! Ideally, we’d like to leave at the end of June and head back to France around July 19–20, so we can enjoy the first week of the Olympic Games in Los Angeles.
Since we already did the "loop" in 2007, there are must-see places we absolutely want to revisit—and especially share with our kids: Bryce Canyon, Yosemite, and above all, the Grand Canyon, which is still the most incredible thing I’ve ever seen on Earth!
On the other hand, some places didn’t leave a big impression on us for various reasons, so we’re not making them a priority: Antelope Canyon, Monument Valley, for example.
We’re planning ahead, but might as well be smart about it😏
Do you have any tips for a fun and doable itinerary over about 20–25 days with kids, without rushing?
Thanks in advance for your feedback😉
Hi everyone! 🙂
Just a quick question about King Canyon and Sequoia National Park.
Before our night in Miramonte, we plan to visit King Canyon. The next stop will be two nights in Three Rivers to explore Sequoia National Park. I wanted to go all the way to Roaring River Falls on the King Canyon Scenic Byway and then turn back to head to Miramonte. Since we’re coming from Oakhurst, Google Maps says it’s 300 km and 5 hours of driving. Since we also want to hike to see the sequoias (Big Stump Area and Grand Grove) before tackling the King Canyon Scenic Byway, the timing’s going to be tight. How far do you recommend going before turning back to miss as few points of interest as possible on the King Canyon Scenic Byway? Thanks for your advice, and have a great evening!
Marcalamar 🙂
Hi everyone!
After years of hoping, waiting, planning, then changing, saving, and searching for the best possible route... we're FINALLY off this summer for a 5-week road trip in the West.
I had planned a trip to Colorado in 2021 but canceled due to COVID, so with time passing and my eldest’s high school graduation approaching fast, I figured it was now or never!
Anyway, the itinerary has been modified and extended to please everyone (I’m no longer the only one making decisions!!)
Here’s our final route: Day 1 - 7/12/2026 - Brussels / Los Angeles Day 2 - 7/13/2026 - Los Angeles Day 3 - 7/14/2026 - Los Angeles Day 4 - 7/15/2026 - Los Angeles Day 5 - 7/16/2026 - Los Angeles Day 6 - 7/17/2026 - Los Angeles / Kingman Day 7 - 7/18/2026 - Kingman / Grand Canyon Day 8 - 7/19/2026 - Grand Canyon / Page Day 9 - 7/20/2026 - Page Day 10 - 7/21/2026 - Page / Monument Valley Day 11 - 7/22/2026 - Monument Valley / Durango Day 12 - 7/23/2026 - Durango Day 13 - 7/24/2026 - Durango Day 14 - 7/25/2026 - Durango Day 15 - 7/26/2026 - Durango / Glenwood Springs Day 16 - 7/27/2026 - Glenwood Springs Day 17 - 7/28/2026 - Glenwood Springs / Moab Day 18 - 7/29/2026 - Moab Day 19 - 7/30/2026 - Moab Day 20 - 7/31/2026 - Moab Day 21 - 8/1/2026 - Moab Day 22 - 8/2/2026 - Moab / Vernal Day 23 - 8/3/2026 - Vernal / Grand Teton Day 24 - 8/4/2026 - Grand Teton Day 25 - 8/5/2026 - Grand Teton / Cody Day 26 - 8/6/2026 - Cody / Yellowstone Day 27 - 8/7/2026 - Yellowstone Day 28 - 8/8/2026 - Yellowstone Day 29 - 8/9/2026 - Yellowstone Day 30 - 8/10/2026 - Yellowstone / Salt Lake City Day 31 - 8/11/2026 - Salt Lake City / Bryce Canyon Day 32 - 8/12/2026 - Bryce Canyon / Zion Day 33 - 8/13/2026 - Zion Day 34 - 8/14/2026 - Zion Day 35 - 8/15/2026 - Zion / Las Vegas Day 36 - 8/16/2026 - Las Vegas Day 37 - 8/17/2026 - Las Vegas / Los Angeles Day 38 - 8/18/2026 - Los Angeles Day 39 - 8/19/2026 - Los Angeles / Brussels Day 40 - 8/20/2026 - Brussels / Home
We’ll be alternating between house swaps, motels, and campgrounds. I’ve booked all the accommodations (except the campground at Bryce since sunset bookings open only 14 days in advance) and the first activities, as well as the most touristy ones.
I’m currently putting together my day-by-day roadbook and having some trouble planning certain days, like in LA or Las Vegas. Choosing hikes isn’t easy either—it’s tough to decide!
We’re really excited but could definitely use your help with choices and optimizations!!
I had planned a trip to Colorado in 2021 but canceled due to COVID, so with time passing and my eldest’s high school graduation approaching fast, I figured it was now or never!
Anyway, the itinerary has been modified and extended to please everyone (I’m no longer the only one making decisions!!)
Here’s our final route: Day 1 - 7/12/2026 - Brussels / Los Angeles Day 2 - 7/13/2026 - Los Angeles Day 3 - 7/14/2026 - Los Angeles Day 4 - 7/15/2026 - Los Angeles Day 5 - 7/16/2026 - Los Angeles Day 6 - 7/17/2026 - Los Angeles / Kingman Day 7 - 7/18/2026 - Kingman / Grand Canyon Day 8 - 7/19/2026 - Grand Canyon / Page Day 9 - 7/20/2026 - Page Day 10 - 7/21/2026 - Page / Monument Valley Day 11 - 7/22/2026 - Monument Valley / Durango Day 12 - 7/23/2026 - Durango Day 13 - 7/24/2026 - Durango Day 14 - 7/25/2026 - Durango Day 15 - 7/26/2026 - Durango / Glenwood Springs Day 16 - 7/27/2026 - Glenwood Springs Day 17 - 7/28/2026 - Glenwood Springs / Moab Day 18 - 7/29/2026 - Moab Day 19 - 7/30/2026 - Moab Day 20 - 7/31/2026 - Moab Day 21 - 8/1/2026 - Moab Day 22 - 8/2/2026 - Moab / Vernal Day 23 - 8/3/2026 - Vernal / Grand Teton Day 24 - 8/4/2026 - Grand Teton Day 25 - 8/5/2026 - Grand Teton / Cody Day 26 - 8/6/2026 - Cody / Yellowstone Day 27 - 8/7/2026 - Yellowstone Day 28 - 8/8/2026 - Yellowstone Day 29 - 8/9/2026 - Yellowstone Day 30 - 8/10/2026 - Yellowstone / Salt Lake City Day 31 - 8/11/2026 - Salt Lake City / Bryce Canyon Day 32 - 8/12/2026 - Bryce Canyon / Zion Day 33 - 8/13/2026 - Zion Day 34 - 8/14/2026 - Zion Day 35 - 8/15/2026 - Zion / Las Vegas Day 36 - 8/16/2026 - Las Vegas Day 37 - 8/17/2026 - Las Vegas / Los Angeles Day 38 - 8/18/2026 - Los Angeles Day 39 - 8/19/2026 - Los Angeles / Brussels Day 40 - 8/20/2026 - Brussels / Home
We’ll be alternating between house swaps, motels, and campgrounds. I’ve booked all the accommodations (except the campground at Bryce since sunset bookings open only 14 days in advance) and the first activities, as well as the most touristy ones.
I’m currently putting together my day-by-day roadbook and having some trouble planning certain days, like in LA or Las Vegas. Choosing hikes isn’t easy either—it’s tough to decide!
We’re really excited but could definitely use your help with choices and optimizations!!
Hello.
I’d like to travel along I-15N from San Diego to Las Vegas with my mom, who’s 67. We’ve explored Northern California and the California Coast over the past two years and now want to continue through the desert.
There are several attractions along the way: - Mormon Rocks - Desert Discovery Center and visit the Old Woman meteorite - Joshua Tree National Park - Mojave Desert - Mojave National Preserve - Anza-Borrego Desert State Park - Silverwood Lake
My mom has back issues that prevent her from hiking or walking on trails with elevation changes. Is it possible to visit these places by car, or are the routes flat enough?
I’d love for her to experience the desert with an itinerary adapted to her condition. I’m also open to other points of interest that aren’t mentioned. We have 3-4 days for the trip, so we’re not in a rush—just want to explore.
Thanks so much. The trip would be in fall 2026
There are several attractions along the way: - Mormon Rocks - Desert Discovery Center and visit the Old Woman meteorite - Joshua Tree National Park - Mojave Desert - Mojave National Preserve - Anza-Borrego Desert State Park - Silverwood Lake
My mom has back issues that prevent her from hiking or walking on trails with elevation changes. Is it possible to visit these places by car, or are the routes flat enough?
I’d love for her to experience the desert with an itinerary adapted to her condition. I’m also open to other points of interest that aren’t mentioned. We have 3-4 days for the trip, so we’re not in a rush—just want to explore.
Thanks so much. The trip would be in fall 2026
Hi there,
I’d love to take a road trip and visit Nova Scotia. I’d appreciate some info on the best cities to see and the most interesting spots. The trip should last about 10 to 15 days, staying in hotels or motels. Thanks in advance!
I’d love to take a road trip and visit Nova Scotia. I’d appreciate some info on the best cities to see and the most interesting spots. The trip should last about 10 to 15 days, staying in hotels or motels. Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
Quick question—I’m heading to New York soon and I’d love to know if you guys have any recommendations for websites where I can buy concert tickets?
Quick question—I’m heading to New York soon and I’d love to know if you guys have any recommendations for websites where I can buy concert tickets?
Hi there,
We’re being relocated to Saint Pierre and Miquelon. We’ll be taking the flight from Nantes to Montreal and then from Montreal to Saint Pierre. Could you recommend a hotel near the departure terminal that allows dogs?
Thanks!
We’re being relocated to Saint Pierre and Miquelon. We’ll be taking the flight from Nantes to Montreal and then from Montreal to Saint Pierre. Could you recommend a hotel near the departure terminal that allows dogs?
Thanks!
Hi,
My 16-year-old son is flying to Grand Rapids with other kids his age. There’s a layover in Detroit. There’s no unaccompanied minor service available. Is it pretty easy to navigate Detroit Airport to catch the connecting flight to Grand Rapids (domestic flight)? There are several of them who speak English well.
Thanks for your replies,
Good evening, everyone! 🙂
Just a few last questions to wrap up our Lake Tahoe visit plans.
**Parking:** We’d like to walk to Eagle Falls and then Eagle Lake. I’ve spotted two parking lots that seem close to each other and give access to the trailhead. Where and how do we pay for entry to Emerald Bay State Park and Inspiration Point?
**Viewpoints on the East Side:** Are most of the viewpoints (Balancing Rock, Granite Cave, Bonsai Rock, etc.) right by the road, or do you have to hike to reach them?
**Donner Memorial State Park:** Is it worth making a detour to Truckee to visit this park and the Truckee historic downtown?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
**Parking:** We’d like to walk to Eagle Falls and then Eagle Lake. I’ve spotted two parking lots that seem close to each other and give access to the trailhead. Where and how do we pay for entry to Emerald Bay State Park and Inspiration Point?
**Viewpoints on the East Side:** Are most of the viewpoints (Balancing Rock, Granite Cave, Bonsai Rock, etc.) right by the road, or do you have to hike to reach them?
**Donner Memorial State Park:** Is it worth making a detour to Truckee to visit this park and the Truckee historic downtown?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
Hi there. I'm shocked by the price of the Upper Antelope Canyon tour—$175 for less than an hour… You might say, "if you can’t afford it…" But the real question is whether it’s really worth it, because $350 for two makes me feel like I’m getting ripped off. For those who’ve done both Lower and Upper, can you tell me if the price difference is really justified? Thanks
Hi everyone! 🙂
As you can see, we're heading back from September 6th to the 27th.
Everything’s booked for September—flights, accommodations, and the car. As I plan, I’ll be asking the experts for help. This is our second trip to California, but most of the stops are new to us.
We’ll start directly from San Francisco to our first overnight stop, Davis, before heading to Lassen Volcanic Park for 4 nights. Our flight lands at 12:50 PM.
Here’s our itinerary: Day 1: Davis – overnight stop Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen) Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes) Day 6: South Lake Tahoe Day 7: South Lake Tahoe Day 8: Mammoth Lake Day 9: Mammoth Lake Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road Day 11: El Portal Day 12: El Portal Day 13: Oakhurst Day 14: Miramonte Day 15: Three Rivers Day 16: Three Rivers Day 17: Coalinga Day 18: Monterey Day 19: Monterey Day 20: San Francisco Day 21: San Francisco Day 22: Departure
For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned: Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2) Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3) Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4) Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)
I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV? Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?
That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening! Marcalamar 🙂
Here’s our itinerary: Day 1: Davis – overnight stop Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen) Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes) Day 6: South Lake Tahoe Day 7: South Lake Tahoe Day 8: Mammoth Lake Day 9: Mammoth Lake Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road Day 11: El Portal Day 12: El Portal Day 13: Oakhurst Day 14: Miramonte Day 15: Three Rivers Day 16: Three Rivers Day 17: Coalinga Day 18: Monterey Day 19: Monterey Day 20: San Francisco Day 21: San Francisco Day 22: Departure
For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned: Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2) Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3) Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4) Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)
I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV? Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?
That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening! Marcalamar 🙂
Here's a tip for future visitors!
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/3-national-parks-slash-red-tape-americans-boldly-transforming-visitor-entry
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/3-national-parks-slash-red-tape-americans-boldly-transforming-visitor-entry
Hi everyone,
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast. I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October. My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips. I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks to everyone for your advice and help.
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast. I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October. My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips. I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks to everyone for your advice and help.
Thanks for advising me on the booking—should I reserve a room in the hotel or go for a cabin for the best view?
Should I get breakfast or not?
What do you think of the restaurant?
Hello, if the off-the-beaten-path enthusiasts are still around 😉, I’d love some info on tackling these trails. I’m not super familiar with the rules, risks, or what to expect—I’m looking for firsthand experience from folks who’ve done it on their own once or multiple times.
Hi everyone!
I’m planning a week-long family trip to NYC in October 2026. The focus is on museums and soaking up the New York vibe. I’ve been checking Airbnb, but the prices in Manhattan are through the roof. Since I don’t know NYC well, is it "wise" to look outside Manhattan? Any neighborhoods you’d recommend?
Hello,
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas) T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC) W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV) F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Christophe
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas) T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC) W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV) F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Christophe
Hi North America forum crew,
Just a little post that might interest some of you:
Travelers to the United States | Photo Now Mandatory Upon Entry and Exit | La Presse
Hi everyone.
I assume many of you already know, but the America the Beautiful annual pass, which was $80, will increase to $250 starting January 1, 2026.
So if you're planning to travel before the end of December 2026, it's in your best interest to buy your pass in December 2025, since it will still cost $80 and be valid until the end of December 2026 if you purchase it in December 2025.
This price increase only applies to non-U.S. residents.
Additionally, for those who planned to visit just one park, a $100 surcharge per person will apply to access a list of 11 national parks... For example, if there are 4 of you in a car, you’ll have to pay $35 + $400, which comes to $435 to visit one of the 11 parks on the list (I don’t have all of them... Bryce, Zion, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.). Total madness.
The goal is to push people who only visit one park into buying the annual pass.
Last point: free entry days are over for non-residents!
That’s all for now.
I assume many of you already know, but the America the Beautiful annual pass, which was $80, will increase to $250 starting January 1, 2026.
So if you're planning to travel before the end of December 2026, it's in your best interest to buy your pass in December 2025, since it will still cost $80 and be valid until the end of December 2026 if you purchase it in December 2025.
This price increase only applies to non-U.S. residents.
Additionally, for those who planned to visit just one park, a $100 surcharge per person will apply to access a list of 11 national parks... For example, if there are 4 of you in a car, you’ll have to pay $35 + $400, which comes to $435 to visit one of the 11 parks on the list (I don’t have all of them... Bryce, Zion, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.). Total madness.
The goal is to push people who only visit one park into buying the annual pass.
Last point: free entry days are over for non-residents!
That’s all for now.
Hi everyone, I’m traveling to Los Angeles and would like to rent a vehicle at the airport. However, I have a Boursobank Ultim deferred debit card, so I’d love to know if it’s possible for those who’ve experienced this recently. Thanks for the info!
Hi VF community,
I’m planning a week in S.F. in April 2026 and I can’t figure out how to tell the cable cars—of which I understand there are three lines—apart from the trams, which I think number seven. I can’t find their individual numbers or routes anywhere.
Could someone shed some light on this for me? Thanks in advance.
Wishing you all a Merry Christmas and a wonderful 2026 full of amazing travels. Cheers, Régine
I’m planning a week in S.F. in April 2026 and I can’t figure out how to tell the cable cars—of which I understand there are three lines—apart from the trams, which I think number seven. I can’t find their individual numbers or routes anywhere.
Could someone shed some light on this for me? Thanks in advance.
Wishing you all a Merry Christmas and a wonderful 2026 full of amazing travels. Cheers, Régine
Hi,
I’m planning a road trip through the American national parks starting from Denver in June 2026.
The price of the pass is jumping from 80 € to 250 € on January 1st, 2026!!!
Is it possible to buy the pass online before the end of the year to lock in the 80 € rate? If so, where and how do I go about it?
Thanks for your tips.
Arnale
Hi there,
I’m planning a road trip for July 2026 in northern Florida. Could you let me know if my itinerary makes sense? Day 1: Orlando Day 2: Amelia Island Day 3: Amelia Island Day 4: Tallahassee Day 5: Panama City Beach Day 6: Panama City Beach (visit to Destin) Day 7: Crystal River (stop in Cedar Key on the way) Day 8: Crystal River Day 9: Anna Maria (stop in Clearwater) Day 10: Anna Maria (St. Pete) Day 11: Anna Maria Day 12: Orlando Day 13: Orlando Day 14: Orlando Day 15: Departure
Thanks in advance for your tips!
I’m planning a road trip for July 2026 in northern Florida. Could you let me know if my itinerary makes sense? Day 1: Orlando Day 2: Amelia Island Day 3: Amelia Island Day 4: Tallahassee Day 5: Panama City Beach Day 6: Panama City Beach (visit to Destin) Day 7: Crystal River (stop in Cedar Key on the way) Day 8: Crystal River Day 9: Anna Maria (stop in Clearwater) Day 10: Anna Maria (St. Pete) Day 11: Anna Maria Day 12: Orlando Day 13: Orlando Day 14: Orlando Day 15: Departure
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Hey everyone!
We just finished 9 days in the American West and wanted to share our experience because we had an amazing time.
I know some of you might ask, why use an agency? Honestly, we didn’t really feel like doing all the driving and planning, especially since we didn’t know the area at all. And since our English isn’t great, having French-speaking guides was a big comfort.
We found Emmanuelle and Isabelle, and wow, they were fantastic. It was just the two of us with them, so it was a truly VIP, ultra-personalized experience. They treated us like royalty from start to finish. These two live in Las Vegas and know the region like the back of their hand. They told us they’ve spent over 15 years exploring every corner of the American West, and it really shows. Their knowledge of geology, park history, and local anecdotes is just impressive. It’s nothing like someone reciting a memorized script. They answer all your questions and really adapt to what you want to see or do.
What we really loved: the vehicle was super comfortable, and the little details made a difference—like snacks and even a homemade cake! Though, to be fair, we devoured the cake right away, so that counts.
Since they know the sites inside out, they took us at the right times to avoid crowds. So we could enjoy peaceful picnics at Grand Canyon viewpoints without being packed in with 200 people. Plus, on top of the must-see spots, they showed us some hidden gems that were absolutely stunning—places we never would’ve found on our own. They’re true locals who know all the best tips.
The service was really personalized. They adapted to our pace and preferences, and we could stop whenever we wanted to take photos. It’s the luxury of being in a small private group—you’re not just a number on a big bus. In short, we really felt like we were traveling with friends rather than professional guides. Everything’s included in the price (hotel pickup, meals, park entries, etc.), so the value for money is fair.
We loved it so much that we’re already planning to come back next year to explore other areas with them. I think we’ve caught the American West bug—it’s all we can think about, and we can’t wait to return.
If you’re looking for a French-speaking tour with real personalized service and guides who know the region like no one else, we highly recommend them. We had unforgettable moments. They also design road trips for those who don’t want a guide. And they handled our hotel reservations in Las Vegas too. If you want genuine advice from friendly locals, we’re giving them a 200% recommendation!
We just finished 9 days in the American West and wanted to share our experience because we had an amazing time.
I know some of you might ask, why use an agency? Honestly, we didn’t really feel like doing all the driving and planning, especially since we didn’t know the area at all. And since our English isn’t great, having French-speaking guides was a big comfort.
We found Emmanuelle and Isabelle, and wow, they were fantastic. It was just the two of us with them, so it was a truly VIP, ultra-personalized experience. They treated us like royalty from start to finish. These two live in Las Vegas and know the region like the back of their hand. They told us they’ve spent over 15 years exploring every corner of the American West, and it really shows. Their knowledge of geology, park history, and local anecdotes is just impressive. It’s nothing like someone reciting a memorized script. They answer all your questions and really adapt to what you want to see or do.
What we really loved: the vehicle was super comfortable, and the little details made a difference—like snacks and even a homemade cake! Though, to be fair, we devoured the cake right away, so that counts.
Since they know the sites inside out, they took us at the right times to avoid crowds. So we could enjoy peaceful picnics at Grand Canyon viewpoints without being packed in with 200 people. Plus, on top of the must-see spots, they showed us some hidden gems that were absolutely stunning—places we never would’ve found on our own. They’re true locals who know all the best tips.
The service was really personalized. They adapted to our pace and preferences, and we could stop whenever we wanted to take photos. It’s the luxury of being in a small private group—you’re not just a number on a big bus. In short, we really felt like we were traveling with friends rather than professional guides. Everything’s included in the price (hotel pickup, meals, park entries, etc.), so the value for money is fair.
We loved it so much that we’re already planning to come back next year to explore other areas with them. I think we’ve caught the American West bug—it’s all we can think about, and we can’t wait to return.
If you’re looking for a French-speaking tour with real personalized service and guides who know the region like no one else, we highly recommend them. We had unforgettable moments. They also design road trips for those who don’t want a guide. And they handled our hotel reservations in Las Vegas too. If you want genuine advice from friendly locals, we’re giving them a 200% recommendation!