Marek Halter
Itinéraire et visites de Las Vegas à San Francisco
by Melyjul
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
coucou,
nous partons 3 semaines dans l'ouest des usa, le circuit est bouclé sauf la fin et j'aurais besoin de vous !
Que feriez vous si : vous partiez de Las Vegas le 13/09 et deviez être à San Francisco le 15/09 au soir !
Quel itinéraire choisisseriez vous? que visiteriez vous? bref quel serait votre programme sur ces 3 jours?
MERCI 😉
" Certes, un rêve de beignet, c'est un rêve, pas un beignet. Mais un rêve de voyage, c'est déjà un voyage..."
Marek Halter
Marek Halter
Salut !
Quel circuit avez-vous prévu avant Las Vegas ? D'où êtes-vous parti ?
Tatie
" Voyager est un triple plaisir : l'attente, l'éblouissement et le souvenir " Ilka Chase
coucou
pkoi as-tu besoin de connaître mon circuit d'avant?
en fait, on part et revient de San Francisco, on passe par la côte pacifique, L.A, les parcs nationaux (G.C; M.V; L.P; Bryce et Zion) et on arrive à Las Vegas d'où on repart pour San Francisco
" Certes, un rêve de beignet, c'est un rêve, pas un beignet. Mais un rêve de voyage, c'est déjà un voyage..."
Marek Halter
Marek Halter
Bonjour Mélanie,
Réflechis un peu ! Tatie a raison de demander ce qui précède : si t'avais fait au départ SF-Yosemite-Vegas, ça serait nul de te conseiller ça pour le retour, n'est il pas ??
Donc moi je verrais bien le 13 Las Vegas-Death Valley, étape à Lone Pine par ex,
puis le 14 Lone Pine-Yosemite avec logement dans un des motels de la vallée, après la sortie du parc,
et puis le 15 route vers SF, avec une possibilité de voir, en début d'après midi, qq chose qu'on n'aurait pas pu voir au début du voyage ??
Bonne route
Si vous ne réussissez jamais rien du premier coup, n'essayez pas le parachutisme !
Et voilà, Jadorry t'as bien répondu.... ma question était juste pour ne pas te conseiller un itinéraire que tu aurais déjà fait au début.....
Donc je confirme : LV --> Death Valley le 13
le 14 : Yosemite
et le 15 retour sur SF
Mais tu ne vas faire que passer, c'est dommage. Peut-être pourras-tu gagner au moins 1 jour sur ton circuit afin de prendre un peu plus ton temps.
Bon voyage
Tatie
" Voyager est un triple plaisir : l'attente, l'éblouissement et le souvenir " Ilka Chase
Merci pour tes idées !
sinon je vais tenter de réfléchir un peu😛 mais dans ma réflexion, si je n'ai pas donnée mon circuit c'est justement parce que je ne passe pas par cette région avant...sinon je l'aurais précisé !
" Certes, un rêve de beignet, c'est un rêve, pas un beignet. Mais un rêve de voyage, c'est déjà un voyage..."
Marek Halter
Marek Halter
désolée Tatie, je ne voulais pas paraître agressive 😉
c juste que pour moi c'était logique que je demandais des indications sur cet itinéraire
et que de ce fait c'est que je n'avais pas eu l'occasion de le faire avant !
pas tjs clair de s'exprimer 😉
Merci de tes conseils
" Certes, un rêve de beignet, c'est un rêve, pas un beignet. Mais un rêve de voyage, c'est déjà un voyage..."
Marek Halter
Marek Halter
merci je compte bien faire la death valley !
en fait ce que je souhaitais savoir c'est quel itinéraire suivre ensuite pour remonter vers San Francisco, aller à Séquoia ou Mono Lake ???
pour San Francisco, comme je l'ai ensuite précisé, c'est de là que commence notre séjour !
merci
plus belle ville je ne sais pas... il y'en a tellement !
plus belle ville je ne sais pas... il y'en a tellement !
" Certes, un rêve de beignet, c'est un rêve, pas un beignet. Mais un rêve de voyage, c'est déjà un voyage..."
Marek Halter
Marek Halter
En fait, je n'ai jamais vu une ville aussi belle ET agreable a vivre que SF... Sans compter le climat delicieux, les activites culturelles (MOMA is N°1) et de plein air (les week ends a Tiburon, Stinson ou a Monterey, quel regal!).
J'ai vecu un peu partout en Europe, en Asie et aux USA, et bon, j'ai beau chercher... SF REMAINS NUMBER ONE 😄
J'ai vecu un peu partout en Europe, en Asie et aux USA, et bon, j'ai beau chercher... SF REMAINS NUMBER ONE 😄
question, si je fais la pause à Lone Pine, par où tu rejoins yosémite... parce que sur la carte, je ne vois qu'un maxi détour !
Séquoia n'est pas intéressant à visiter?
je compte arriver le 15 à San Francisco en fin de soirée... donc???
merci encore
" Certes, un rêve de beignet, c'est un rêve, pas un beignet. Mais un rêve de voyage, c'est déjà un voyage..."
Marek Halter
Marek Halter
Yosemite et Sequoia: c'est bof-bof... Vas dans les Alpes en France ou en Italie, tu auras des paysages du meme type mais beaucoup plus beaux 😎
Pour voir des bons gros Sequoias bien BIG, sans pour autant faire 500 bornes inutilement: je te conseille Muir Woods, juste au Nord de San Francisco, en traversant le Golden Gate Bridge (zont augmente le peage encore, la je crois que c'est sur les 5$ aux dernieres news...). Voila quoi, en 30 minutes de bagnole depuis SF, tu as le meme truc que a Sequoia Park...
Si ca c'est pas du bon TIP, hein ? 😄
Pour voir des bons gros Sequoias bien BIG, sans pour autant faire 500 bornes inutilement: je te conseille Muir Woods, juste au Nord de San Francisco, en traversant le Golden Gate Bridge (zont augmente le peage encore, la je crois que c'est sur les 5$ aux dernieres news...). Voila quoi, en 30 minutes de bagnole depuis SF, tu as le meme truc que a Sequoia Park...
Si ca c'est pas du bon TIP, hein ? 😄
Bonjour,
C'est peut-être un peu rapide de balancer Sequoia et Yosémite à la poubelle parce que ça ressemble aux Alpes.😕 Jusqu'à preuve du contraire, y'a peu de Sequoia dans le coin de Chamonix ( ou alors des nains ? ).
Autre petite précision technique : les séquoias de Muir Woods ne sont pas de la même espèce que ceux de Sequioa Park. Il y a les Redwood et les Giganteum ( ouais, je suis calé à mort là-dessus ). D'où leur nom les 2èmes, uniquement présents à Sequoia Park, sont les + gros du monde et de sa banlieue 😮
Si on va dans le même sens, si t'as vu le pont de Tancarville, pas la peine de faire le Golden Gate, ce n'est qu'un autre pont finalement 😛
J-Luc
C'est peut-être un peu rapide de balancer Sequoia et Yosémite à la poubelle parce que ça ressemble aux Alpes.😕 Jusqu'à preuve du contraire, y'a peu de Sequoia dans le coin de Chamonix ( ou alors des nains ? ).
Autre petite précision technique : les séquoias de Muir Woods ne sont pas de la même espèce que ceux de Sequioa Park. Il y a les Redwood et les Giganteum ( ouais, je suis calé à mort là-dessus ). D'où leur nom les 2èmes, uniquement présents à Sequoia Park, sont les + gros du monde et de sa banlieue 😮
Si on va dans le même sens, si t'as vu le pont de Tancarville, pas la peine de faire le Golden Gate, ce n'est qu'un autre pont finalement 😛
J-Luc
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" Psychologiquement instable donc je ne réponds de rien" : Sa Maman
" Psychologiquement instable donc je ne réponds de rien" : Sa Maman
C'est pas ca le fond du probleme...
Muir Woods c'est a 30 minutes de SF, Sequoia Park c'est legerement plus loin 😄, donc pour quelqu'un qui fait un circuit deja bien gavant, ca sert vraiment a rien de se taper toute la route alors que t'as un truc tres similaire a 2 pas.
Pour quelqu'un qui n'est pas calé a l'arrach' en arbrotologie, Sequoia et Muir c'est kif-kif-bourrico 😎
Meme chose pour le Golden Gate: c'est en plein SF...
Tarteville la, c'est a l'estaque non ? 😄
Muir Woods c'est a 30 minutes de SF, Sequoia Park c'est legerement plus loin 😄, donc pour quelqu'un qui fait un circuit deja bien gavant, ca sert vraiment a rien de se taper toute la route alors que t'as un truc tres similaire a 2 pas.
Pour quelqu'un qui n'est pas calé a l'arrach' en arbrotologie, Sequoia et Muir c'est kif-kif-bourrico 😎
Meme chose pour le Golden Gate: c'est en plein SF...
Tarteville la, c'est a l'estaque non ? 😄
De toutes façons, la question était de rejoindre SF donc, c'est pas spécialement un détour mais une halte ou pas.
Et pour revenir à notre ami le Sequoia, ce ne sont pas du tout les mêmes formats et à Sequoia Park, on est tout de même devant des arbres dont certains approchent les 2.700 ans, c-a-d qu'on a planté la petite graine 100 ans avant de fonder Marseille ( un petit port du Sud 😎 ) et 300 ans avant Alexandre le Grand !
Et ça, Monsieur, ça se respecte !!!!!!
J'sais pas pourquoi je fais une fixation là-dessus d'ailleurs. Un coup de mou sans doute !
Vous allez où vous voulez les gars finalement, hein ....?
J-Luc
Et ça, Monsieur, ça se respecte !!!!!!
J'sais pas pourquoi je fais une fixation là-dessus d'ailleurs. Un coup de mou sans doute !
Vous allez où vous voulez les gars finalement, hein ....?
J-Luc
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" Psychologiquement instable donc je ne réponds de rien" : Sa Maman
" Psychologiquement instable donc je ne réponds de rien" : Sa Maman
Je réponds à Buddy : j'habite dans les Alpes que j'adorrrre d'accord. Mais les paysages de Yosemite m'ont quand même impressionnée : ne me dis pas que la Tioga Pass Road n'est pas superbe.... à moins que tu l'ai zapée ? et il y a aussi des séquoias à Mariposa Grove (Yosemite). En plus si je comprends bien, Melyjul n'aura plus le temps de retraverser le Golden Gate le dernier jour pour aller à Muir Wood.
" Voyager est un triple plaisir : l'attente, l'éblouissement et le souvenir " Ilka Chase
Yosemite n'est certainement pas le plus beau, ni le plus impressionant des National Parks des USA.
Par contre c'est certainement un des plus frequenté et embouteillé 🏴☠️
Mais en fait, tout depend de quels autres NP tu as vu...
Les National Parks aux USA, c'est bien pour capter des paysages qui semblent arriver d'une autre planete, et qui ne ressemblent a rien de ce qu'il y a chez nous 😄
Voila les National Parks qui meritent de se taper 12 heures d'avion et de depenser plein de bucks: Canyonlands, Arches, Zion, Capitol Reef, Bryce Canyon, Death Valley, Badlands... Et, le plus vieux et le plus incroyable: Yellowstone.
Sans oublier Monument Valley, mais ce n'est pas un NP 😇
Par contre c'est certainement un des plus frequenté et embouteillé 🏴☠️
Mais en fait, tout depend de quels autres NP tu as vu...
Les National Parks aux USA, c'est bien pour capter des paysages qui semblent arriver d'une autre planete, et qui ne ressemblent a rien de ce qu'il y a chez nous 😄
Voila les National Parks qui meritent de se taper 12 heures d'avion et de depenser plein de bucks: Canyonlands, Arches, Zion, Capitol Reef, Bryce Canyon, Death Valley, Badlands... Et, le plus vieux et le plus incroyable: Yellowstone.
Sans oublier Monument Valley, mais ce n'est pas un NP 😇
Tu devras quitter la 395 à Lee Vining (à côté de Mono Lake) et prendre la 120 qui s'appelle Tioga Pass road. Personnellement, j'ai beaucoup aimé. C'est une magnifique route de montagne qui monte à 3000 m. d'altitude en traversant des paysages somptueux de forêts, de prairies, de lacs, avec à l'horizon de beaux sommets, et ça pendant une centaine de kms. Cela te changera vraiment de ce que tu auras vu tout au long de ton circuit.
" Voyager est un triple plaisir : l'attente, l'éblouissement et le souvenir " Ilka Chase
ne vous disputez pas à cause de mon post SVP... c clair que balancez Séquoia et Yosémite c un peu fort... mais je compte faire Yosémite ça s'est sûr !!!! et pour Séquoia, je me tente compte-tenu du délai de cette fin de circuit !
MERCI
" Certes, un rêve de beignet, c'est un rêve, pas un beignet. Mais un rêve de voyage, c'est déjà un voyage..."
Marek Halter
Marek Halter
C'est bon Buddy, j'arrête....... j'ai l'impression que tu nous prends pour des touristes de base......
Pour ta gouverne, j'ai voyagé aux US une bonne dizaine de fois, en routarde, pendant plusieurs mois à chaque fois (c'est vrai j'ai déjà de la bouteille !) et il me semble que je connais pas mal. Tu as raison dans le sens où Yosemite n'est pas le plus spectaculaire des parcs nationaux américains, qu'il vaut mieux éviter d'y aller les week-ends, etc. Mais il ne faut pas en dégouter les autres.
" Voyager est un triple plaisir : l'attente, l'éblouissement et le souvenir " Ilka Chase
oui c tout à fait ce que j'avais vu sur ma carte merci, mais c tjs bien d'avoir l'avis de qqun qui l'a déjà fait non? 😉
crois te que ce soit possible (sachant que j'aurais déjà fait S.F et que donc je ne compte arriver que le soir à destination) de faire :
13/09 : départ tôt de Vegas - Death Valley
14/09 : Séquoia - puis se rapprocher de Yosémite
15/09 : Yosémite - San Francisco
MERCI
MERCI
" Certes, un rêve de beignet, c'est un rêve, pas un beignet. Mais un rêve de voyage, c'est déjà un voyage..."
Marek Halter
Marek Halter
Coucou a tous ! Je vous ecris ce mot car cela fait maintenant 6 ans que je vis sur San Francisco. J'ai egalement fait tous les parcs de l'Ouest americain, et je peux dire qu'ils sont incroyables. Je pense que "buddy" essaie d'expliquer quels sont les parcs qui valent la peine de faire toutes ces heures d'avion + de voiture. Ca sert a rien de s'exciter et de se la jouer comme certains le font, a ce que j'ai compris ici c'est un forum qui parlent de trips non ? Donc relaxez vous !
J'ai ete assez decue par yosemite, il n'y a guere que "el capitan" qui vaut le (long) trajet. Quant a muir woods, c'est un endroit magnifique, il y a aussi une belle plage en contrebas (muir beach).
tout à fait... mais dans un sens puisque je suis sur la route, je ne fais pas de "détours inutiles", je dois passer par là de toutes façons... donc ma demande était juste que visiter le long de cet itinéraire et je remercie ceux qui m'ont aider... me dire que Muir est superbe, je n'en doute pas, mais ce n'est pas sur mon trajet en l'occurence !
merci
" Certes, un rêve de beignet, c'est un rêve, pas un beignet. Mais un rêve de voyage, c'est déjà un voyage..."
Marek Halter
Marek Halter
Bonjour Mélanie,
Waouh, je m'éloigne 24h et un débat "enflammé" a eu lieu 😊
Bon, je rejoins un peu J-Luc : voir Sequoia NP (et Kings Canyon à côté !) n'a rien à voir avec Muir Woods. En effet, tu as raison, ce dernier ne se trouve pas entre Death Valley et DFO....pour sur ! et on va considérer comme acquis que tu y seras allée en même temps que Sausalito tout au début de ton séjour à SFO ?!
Cependant, regarde bien ta carte : si tu veux faire Death Valley-Lone Pine-Yosemite puis Sequoia et SFO, alors oui ça fait bel et bien un "détour" ! C'est toujours la même raison : pas de route qui traverse la Sierra Nevada entre Lone Pine et Sequoia. C'est bien pour cela que je ne suggérais pas Sequoia initialement. Ce que je crains c'est que cela fasse vraiment beaucoup de voir DV, Sequoia, Yosemite en 3 jours. Si vraiment les arbres très bien décrits par J-Luc te tentent vraiment, alors reporte Yosemite à un autre trip ! Tu peux alors contourner la Sierra par le sud via Lake Isabella/Bakersfield/Visalia/Sequoia et revenir sur SFO via Fresno et Modesto.
Your choice !!
Bon, je rejoins un peu J-Luc : voir Sequoia NP (et Kings Canyon à côté !) n'a rien à voir avec Muir Woods. En effet, tu as raison, ce dernier ne se trouve pas entre Death Valley et DFO....pour sur ! et on va considérer comme acquis que tu y seras allée en même temps que Sausalito tout au début de ton séjour à SFO ?!
Cependant, regarde bien ta carte : si tu veux faire Death Valley-Lone Pine-Yosemite puis Sequoia et SFO, alors oui ça fait bel et bien un "détour" ! C'est toujours la même raison : pas de route qui traverse la Sierra Nevada entre Lone Pine et Sequoia. C'est bien pour cela que je ne suggérais pas Sequoia initialement. Ce que je crains c'est que cela fasse vraiment beaucoup de voir DV, Sequoia, Yosemite en 3 jours. Si vraiment les arbres très bien décrits par J-Luc te tentent vraiment, alors reporte Yosemite à un autre trip ! Tu peux alors contourner la Sierra par le sud via Lake Isabella/Bakersfield/Visalia/Sequoia et revenir sur SFO via Fresno et Modesto.
Your choice !!
Si vous ne réussissez jamais rien du premier coup, n'essayez pas le parachutisme !
coucou,
ba oui j'ai bien regardé ma carte c pour ça que j'ai dit que ça faisait un détour pke certains en mp m'avait conseillé de faire cet itinéraire 😉
et tu as fais de bonnes considérations concernant sausalito, j'y serais déjà aller !
Je pense donc faire ce que j'avais initiallement prévu : Deathe Valley, Yosémite et back to S.F !
Mais néanmoins MERCI de tous vos avis
" Certes, un rêve de beignet, c'est un rêve, pas un beignet. Mais un rêve de voyage, c'est déjà un voyage..."
Marek Halter
Marek Halter
non non.... ça doit etre un virus....on l'attrape generalement apres une halte dans Sequoia....apres on en plante partout dans le jardin....
je ne pense pas que le but de ce parc soit la montagne ou les vues ou quoique ce soit d'autre que ces arbres magnifiques
les sequoias de Muir wood sont vraiment peu impressionnants par rapport au General shermann de Sequoia par exemple..
je ferais 10000000000000 fois Sequoia, plutot que de retourner a Yosemite.... mais tout ça ne sont que des avis personnels et passionnels😉😛 chacun ses gouts
je ne pense pas que le but de ce parc soit la montagne ou les vues ou quoique ce soit d'autre que ces arbres magnifiques
les sequoias de Muir wood sont vraiment peu impressionnants par rapport au General shermann de Sequoia par exemple..
je ferais 10000000000000 fois Sequoia, plutot que de retourner a Yosemite.... mais tout ça ne sont que des avis personnels et passionnels😉😛 chacun ses gouts
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Do you have any tips for a fun and doable itinerary over about 20–25 days with kids, without rushing?
Thanks in advance for your feedback😉
After our first trip as a young couple to the West in 2007 (yes, that doesn’t make us any younger!), we’re planning to go back in 2028, but this time as a family of four! (We have two boys who’ll be 5½ and 13 years old in the summer of 2028.)
Our plan is to combine a few big cities (SF and LA, maybe San Diego) with national parks and state parks, mostly! Ideally, we’d like to leave at the end of June and head back to France around July 19–20, so we can enjoy the first week of the Olympic Games in Los Angeles.
Since we already did the "loop" in 2007, there are must-see places we absolutely want to revisit—and especially share with our kids: Bryce Canyon, Yosemite, and above all, the Grand Canyon, which is still the most incredible thing I’ve ever seen on Earth!
On the other hand, some places didn’t leave a big impression on us for various reasons, so we’re not making them a priority: Antelope Canyon, Monument Valley, for example.
We’re planning ahead, but might as well be smart about it😏
Do you have any tips for a fun and doable itinerary over about 20–25 days with kids, without rushing?
Thanks in advance for your feedback😉
Hi everyone! 🙂
Just a quick question about King Canyon and Sequoia National Park.
Before our night in Miramonte, we plan to visit King Canyon. The next stop will be two nights in Three Rivers to explore Sequoia National Park. I wanted to go all the way to Roaring River Falls on the King Canyon Scenic Byway and then turn back to head to Miramonte. Since we’re coming from Oakhurst, Google Maps says it’s 300 km and 5 hours of driving. Since we also want to hike to see the sequoias (Big Stump Area and Grand Grove) before tackling the King Canyon Scenic Byway, the timing’s going to be tight. How far do you recommend going before turning back to miss as few points of interest as possible on the King Canyon Scenic Byway? Thanks for your advice, and have a great evening!
Marcalamar 🙂
Hi everyone!
After years of hoping, waiting, planning, then changing, saving, and searching for the best possible route... we're FINALLY off this summer for a 5-week road trip in the West.
I had planned a trip to Colorado in 2021 but canceled due to COVID, so with time passing and my eldest’s high school graduation approaching fast, I figured it was now or never!
Anyway, the itinerary has been modified and extended to please everyone (I’m no longer the only one making decisions!!)
Here’s our final route: Day 1 - 7/12/2026 - Brussels / Los Angeles Day 2 - 7/13/2026 - Los Angeles Day 3 - 7/14/2026 - Los Angeles Day 4 - 7/15/2026 - Los Angeles Day 5 - 7/16/2026 - Los Angeles Day 6 - 7/17/2026 - Los Angeles / Kingman Day 7 - 7/18/2026 - Kingman / Grand Canyon Day 8 - 7/19/2026 - Grand Canyon / Page Day 9 - 7/20/2026 - Page Day 10 - 7/21/2026 - Page / Monument Valley Day 11 - 7/22/2026 - Monument Valley / Durango Day 12 - 7/23/2026 - Durango Day 13 - 7/24/2026 - Durango Day 14 - 7/25/2026 - Durango Day 15 - 7/26/2026 - Durango / Glenwood Springs Day 16 - 7/27/2026 - Glenwood Springs Day 17 - 7/28/2026 - Glenwood Springs / Moab Day 18 - 7/29/2026 - Moab Day 19 - 7/30/2026 - Moab Day 20 - 7/31/2026 - Moab Day 21 - 8/1/2026 - Moab Day 22 - 8/2/2026 - Moab / Vernal Day 23 - 8/3/2026 - Vernal / Grand Teton Day 24 - 8/4/2026 - Grand Teton Day 25 - 8/5/2026 - Grand Teton / Cody Day 26 - 8/6/2026 - Cody / Yellowstone Day 27 - 8/7/2026 - Yellowstone Day 28 - 8/8/2026 - Yellowstone Day 29 - 8/9/2026 - Yellowstone Day 30 - 8/10/2026 - Yellowstone / Salt Lake City Day 31 - 8/11/2026 - Salt Lake City / Bryce Canyon Day 32 - 8/12/2026 - Bryce Canyon / Zion Day 33 - 8/13/2026 - Zion Day 34 - 8/14/2026 - Zion Day 35 - 8/15/2026 - Zion / Las Vegas Day 36 - 8/16/2026 - Las Vegas Day 37 - 8/17/2026 - Las Vegas / Los Angeles Day 38 - 8/18/2026 - Los Angeles Day 39 - 8/19/2026 - Los Angeles / Brussels Day 40 - 8/20/2026 - Brussels / Home
We’ll be alternating between house swaps, motels, and campgrounds. I’ve booked all the accommodations (except the campground at Bryce since sunset bookings open only 14 days in advance) and the first activities, as well as the most touristy ones.
I’m currently putting together my day-by-day roadbook and having some trouble planning certain days, like in LA or Las Vegas. Choosing hikes isn’t easy either—it’s tough to decide!
We’re really excited but could definitely use your help with choices and optimizations!!
I had planned a trip to Colorado in 2021 but canceled due to COVID, so with time passing and my eldest’s high school graduation approaching fast, I figured it was now or never!
Anyway, the itinerary has been modified and extended to please everyone (I’m no longer the only one making decisions!!)
Here’s our final route: Day 1 - 7/12/2026 - Brussels / Los Angeles Day 2 - 7/13/2026 - Los Angeles Day 3 - 7/14/2026 - Los Angeles Day 4 - 7/15/2026 - Los Angeles Day 5 - 7/16/2026 - Los Angeles Day 6 - 7/17/2026 - Los Angeles / Kingman Day 7 - 7/18/2026 - Kingman / Grand Canyon Day 8 - 7/19/2026 - Grand Canyon / Page Day 9 - 7/20/2026 - Page Day 10 - 7/21/2026 - Page / Monument Valley Day 11 - 7/22/2026 - Monument Valley / Durango Day 12 - 7/23/2026 - Durango Day 13 - 7/24/2026 - Durango Day 14 - 7/25/2026 - Durango Day 15 - 7/26/2026 - Durango / Glenwood Springs Day 16 - 7/27/2026 - Glenwood Springs Day 17 - 7/28/2026 - Glenwood Springs / Moab Day 18 - 7/29/2026 - Moab Day 19 - 7/30/2026 - Moab Day 20 - 7/31/2026 - Moab Day 21 - 8/1/2026 - Moab Day 22 - 8/2/2026 - Moab / Vernal Day 23 - 8/3/2026 - Vernal / Grand Teton Day 24 - 8/4/2026 - Grand Teton Day 25 - 8/5/2026 - Grand Teton / Cody Day 26 - 8/6/2026 - Cody / Yellowstone Day 27 - 8/7/2026 - Yellowstone Day 28 - 8/8/2026 - Yellowstone Day 29 - 8/9/2026 - Yellowstone Day 30 - 8/10/2026 - Yellowstone / Salt Lake City Day 31 - 8/11/2026 - Salt Lake City / Bryce Canyon Day 32 - 8/12/2026 - Bryce Canyon / Zion Day 33 - 8/13/2026 - Zion Day 34 - 8/14/2026 - Zion Day 35 - 8/15/2026 - Zion / Las Vegas Day 36 - 8/16/2026 - Las Vegas Day 37 - 8/17/2026 - Las Vegas / Los Angeles Day 38 - 8/18/2026 - Los Angeles Day 39 - 8/19/2026 - Los Angeles / Brussels Day 40 - 8/20/2026 - Brussels / Home
We’ll be alternating between house swaps, motels, and campgrounds. I’ve booked all the accommodations (except the campground at Bryce since sunset bookings open only 14 days in advance) and the first activities, as well as the most touristy ones.
I’m currently putting together my day-by-day roadbook and having some trouble planning certain days, like in LA or Las Vegas. Choosing hikes isn’t easy either—it’s tough to decide!
We’re really excited but could definitely use your help with choices and optimizations!!
Hello.
I’d like to travel along I-15N from San Diego to Las Vegas with my mom, who’s 67. We’ve explored Northern California and the California Coast over the past two years and now want to continue through the desert.
There are several attractions along the way: - Mormon Rocks - Desert Discovery Center and visit the Old Woman meteorite - Joshua Tree National Park - Mojave Desert - Mojave National Preserve - Anza-Borrego Desert State Park - Silverwood Lake
My mom has back issues that prevent her from hiking or walking on trails with elevation changes. Is it possible to visit these places by car, or are the routes flat enough?
I’d love for her to experience the desert with an itinerary adapted to her condition. I’m also open to other points of interest that aren’t mentioned. We have 3-4 days for the trip, so we’re not in a rush—just want to explore.
Thanks so much. The trip would be in fall 2026
There are several attractions along the way: - Mormon Rocks - Desert Discovery Center and visit the Old Woman meteorite - Joshua Tree National Park - Mojave Desert - Mojave National Preserve - Anza-Borrego Desert State Park - Silverwood Lake
My mom has back issues that prevent her from hiking or walking on trails with elevation changes. Is it possible to visit these places by car, or are the routes flat enough?
I’d love for her to experience the desert with an itinerary adapted to her condition. I’m also open to other points of interest that aren’t mentioned. We have 3-4 days for the trip, so we’re not in a rush—just want to explore.
Thanks so much. The trip would be in fall 2026
Hi there,
I’d love to take a road trip and visit Nova Scotia. I’d appreciate some info on the best cities to see and the most interesting spots. The trip should last about 10 to 15 days, staying in hotels or motels. Thanks in advance!
I’d love to take a road trip and visit Nova Scotia. I’d appreciate some info on the best cities to see and the most interesting spots. The trip should last about 10 to 15 days, staying in hotels or motels. Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
Quick question—I’m heading to New York soon and I’d love to know if you guys have any recommendations for websites where I can buy concert tickets?
Quick question—I’m heading to New York soon and I’d love to know if you guys have any recommendations for websites where I can buy concert tickets?
Hi there,
We’re being relocated to Saint Pierre and Miquelon. We’ll be taking the flight from Nantes to Montreal and then from Montreal to Saint Pierre. Could you recommend a hotel near the departure terminal that allows dogs?
Thanks!
We’re being relocated to Saint Pierre and Miquelon. We’ll be taking the flight from Nantes to Montreal and then from Montreal to Saint Pierre. Could you recommend a hotel near the departure terminal that allows dogs?
Thanks!
Hi,
My 16-year-old son is flying to Grand Rapids with other kids his age. There’s a layover in Detroit. There’s no unaccompanied minor service available. Is it pretty easy to navigate Detroit Airport to catch the connecting flight to Grand Rapids (domestic flight)? There are several of them who speak English well.
Thanks for your replies,
Good evening, everyone! 🙂
Just a few last questions to wrap up our Lake Tahoe visit plans.
**Parking:** We’d like to walk to Eagle Falls and then Eagle Lake. I’ve spotted two parking lots that seem close to each other and give access to the trailhead. Where and how do we pay for entry to Emerald Bay State Park and Inspiration Point?
**Viewpoints on the East Side:** Are most of the viewpoints (Balancing Rock, Granite Cave, Bonsai Rock, etc.) right by the road, or do you have to hike to reach them?
**Donner Memorial State Park:** Is it worth making a detour to Truckee to visit this park and the Truckee historic downtown?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
**Parking:** We’d like to walk to Eagle Falls and then Eagle Lake. I’ve spotted two parking lots that seem close to each other and give access to the trailhead. Where and how do we pay for entry to Emerald Bay State Park and Inspiration Point?
**Viewpoints on the East Side:** Are most of the viewpoints (Balancing Rock, Granite Cave, Bonsai Rock, etc.) right by the road, or do you have to hike to reach them?
**Donner Memorial State Park:** Is it worth making a detour to Truckee to visit this park and the Truckee historic downtown?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
Hi there. I'm shocked by the price of the Upper Antelope Canyon tour—$175 for less than an hour… You might say, "if you can’t afford it…" But the real question is whether it’s really worth it, because $350 for two makes me feel like I’m getting ripped off. For those who’ve done both Lower and Upper, can you tell me if the price difference is really justified? Thanks
Hi everyone! 🙂
As you can see, we're heading back from September 6th to the 27th.
Everything’s booked for September—flights, accommodations, and the car. As I plan, I’ll be asking the experts for help. This is our second trip to California, but most of the stops are new to us.
We’ll start directly from San Francisco to our first overnight stop, Davis, before heading to Lassen Volcanic Park for 4 nights. Our flight lands at 12:50 PM.
Here’s our itinerary: Day 1: Davis – overnight stop Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen) Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes) Day 6: South Lake Tahoe Day 7: South Lake Tahoe Day 8: Mammoth Lake Day 9: Mammoth Lake Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road Day 11: El Portal Day 12: El Portal Day 13: Oakhurst Day 14: Miramonte Day 15: Three Rivers Day 16: Three Rivers Day 17: Coalinga Day 18: Monterey Day 19: Monterey Day 20: San Francisco Day 21: San Francisco Day 22: Departure
For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned: Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2) Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3) Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4) Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)
I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV? Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?
That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening! Marcalamar 🙂
Here’s our itinerary: Day 1: Davis – overnight stop Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen) Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes) Day 6: South Lake Tahoe Day 7: South Lake Tahoe Day 8: Mammoth Lake Day 9: Mammoth Lake Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road Day 11: El Portal Day 12: El Portal Day 13: Oakhurst Day 14: Miramonte Day 15: Three Rivers Day 16: Three Rivers Day 17: Coalinga Day 18: Monterey Day 19: Monterey Day 20: San Francisco Day 21: San Francisco Day 22: Departure
For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned: Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2) Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3) Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4) Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)
I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV? Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?
That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening! Marcalamar 🙂
Here's a tip for future visitors!
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/3-national-parks-slash-red-tape-americans-boldly-transforming-visitor-entry
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/3-national-parks-slash-red-tape-americans-boldly-transforming-visitor-entry
Hi everyone,
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast. I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October. My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips. I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks to everyone for your advice and help.
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast. I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October. My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips. I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks to everyone for your advice and help.
Thanks for advising me on the booking—should I reserve a room in the hotel or go for a cabin for the best view?
Should I get breakfast or not?
What do you think of the restaurant?
Hello, if the off-the-beaten-path enthusiasts are still around 😉, I’d love some info on tackling these trails. I’m not super familiar with the rules, risks, or what to expect—I’m looking for firsthand experience from folks who’ve done it on their own once or multiple times.
Hi everyone!
I’m planning a week-long family trip to NYC in October 2026. The focus is on museums and soaking up the New York vibe. I’ve been checking Airbnb, but the prices in Manhattan are through the roof. Since I don’t know NYC well, is it "wise" to look outside Manhattan? Any neighborhoods you’d recommend?
Hello,
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas) T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC) W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV) F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Christophe
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas) T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC) W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV) F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Christophe
Hi North America forum crew,
Just a little post that might interest some of you:
Travelers to the United States | Photo Now Mandatory Upon Entry and Exit | La Presse
Hi everyone.
I assume many of you already know, but the America the Beautiful annual pass, which was $80, will increase to $250 starting January 1, 2026.
So if you're planning to travel before the end of December 2026, it's in your best interest to buy your pass in December 2025, since it will still cost $80 and be valid until the end of December 2026 if you purchase it in December 2025.
This price increase only applies to non-U.S. residents.
Additionally, for those who planned to visit just one park, a $100 surcharge per person will apply to access a list of 11 national parks... For example, if there are 4 of you in a car, you’ll have to pay $35 + $400, which comes to $435 to visit one of the 11 parks on the list (I don’t have all of them... Bryce, Zion, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.). Total madness.
The goal is to push people who only visit one park into buying the annual pass.
Last point: free entry days are over for non-residents!
That’s all for now.
I assume many of you already know, but the America the Beautiful annual pass, which was $80, will increase to $250 starting January 1, 2026.
So if you're planning to travel before the end of December 2026, it's in your best interest to buy your pass in December 2025, since it will still cost $80 and be valid until the end of December 2026 if you purchase it in December 2025.
This price increase only applies to non-U.S. residents.
Additionally, for those who planned to visit just one park, a $100 surcharge per person will apply to access a list of 11 national parks... For example, if there are 4 of you in a car, you’ll have to pay $35 + $400, which comes to $435 to visit one of the 11 parks on the list (I don’t have all of them... Bryce, Zion, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.). Total madness.
The goal is to push people who only visit one park into buying the annual pass.
Last point: free entry days are over for non-residents!
That’s all for now.
Hi everyone, I’m traveling to Los Angeles and would like to rent a vehicle at the airport. However, I have a Boursobank Ultim deferred debit card, so I’d love to know if it’s possible for those who’ve experienced this recently. Thanks for the info!
Hi VF community,
I’m planning a week in S.F. in April 2026 and I can’t figure out how to tell the cable cars—of which I understand there are three lines—apart from the trams, which I think number seven. I can’t find their individual numbers or routes anywhere.
Could someone shed some light on this for me? Thanks in advance.
Wishing you all a Merry Christmas and a wonderful 2026 full of amazing travels. Cheers, Régine
I’m planning a week in S.F. in April 2026 and I can’t figure out how to tell the cable cars—of which I understand there are three lines—apart from the trams, which I think number seven. I can’t find their individual numbers or routes anywhere.
Could someone shed some light on this for me? Thanks in advance.
Wishing you all a Merry Christmas and a wonderful 2026 full of amazing travels. Cheers, Régine
Hi,
I’m planning a road trip through the American national parks starting from Denver in June 2026.
The price of the pass is jumping from 80 € to 250 € on January 1st, 2026!!!
Is it possible to buy the pass online before the end of the year to lock in the 80 € rate? If so, where and how do I go about it?
Thanks for your tips.
Arnale
Hi there,
I’m planning a road trip for July 2026 in northern Florida. Could you let me know if my itinerary makes sense? Day 1: Orlando Day 2: Amelia Island Day 3: Amelia Island Day 4: Tallahassee Day 5: Panama City Beach Day 6: Panama City Beach (visit to Destin) Day 7: Crystal River (stop in Cedar Key on the way) Day 8: Crystal River Day 9: Anna Maria (stop in Clearwater) Day 10: Anna Maria (St. Pete) Day 11: Anna Maria Day 12: Orlando Day 13: Orlando Day 14: Orlando Day 15: Departure
Thanks in advance for your tips!
I’m planning a road trip for July 2026 in northern Florida. Could you let me know if my itinerary makes sense? Day 1: Orlando Day 2: Amelia Island Day 3: Amelia Island Day 4: Tallahassee Day 5: Panama City Beach Day 6: Panama City Beach (visit to Destin) Day 7: Crystal River (stop in Cedar Key on the way) Day 8: Crystal River Day 9: Anna Maria (stop in Clearwater) Day 10: Anna Maria (St. Pete) Day 11: Anna Maria Day 12: Orlando Day 13: Orlando Day 14: Orlando Day 15: Departure
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Hey everyone!
We just finished 9 days in the American West and wanted to share our experience because we had an amazing time.
I know some of you might ask, why use an agency? Honestly, we didn’t really feel like doing all the driving and planning, especially since we didn’t know the area at all. And since our English isn’t great, having French-speaking guides was a big comfort.
We found Emmanuelle and Isabelle, and wow, they were fantastic. It was just the two of us with them, so it was a truly VIP, ultra-personalized experience. They treated us like royalty from start to finish. These two live in Las Vegas and know the region like the back of their hand. They told us they’ve spent over 15 years exploring every corner of the American West, and it really shows. Their knowledge of geology, park history, and local anecdotes is just impressive. It’s nothing like someone reciting a memorized script. They answer all your questions and really adapt to what you want to see or do.
What we really loved: the vehicle was super comfortable, and the little details made a difference—like snacks and even a homemade cake! Though, to be fair, we devoured the cake right away, so that counts.
Since they know the sites inside out, they took us at the right times to avoid crowds. So we could enjoy peaceful picnics at Grand Canyon viewpoints without being packed in with 200 people. Plus, on top of the must-see spots, they showed us some hidden gems that were absolutely stunning—places we never would’ve found on our own. They’re true locals who know all the best tips.
The service was really personalized. They adapted to our pace and preferences, and we could stop whenever we wanted to take photos. It’s the luxury of being in a small private group—you’re not just a number on a big bus. In short, we really felt like we were traveling with friends rather than professional guides. Everything’s included in the price (hotel pickup, meals, park entries, etc.), so the value for money is fair.
We loved it so much that we’re already planning to come back next year to explore other areas with them. I think we’ve caught the American West bug—it’s all we can think about, and we can’t wait to return.
If you’re looking for a French-speaking tour with real personalized service and guides who know the region like no one else, we highly recommend them. We had unforgettable moments. They also design road trips for those who don’t want a guide. And they handled our hotel reservations in Las Vegas too. If you want genuine advice from friendly locals, we’re giving them a 200% recommendation!
We just finished 9 days in the American West and wanted to share our experience because we had an amazing time.
I know some of you might ask, why use an agency? Honestly, we didn’t really feel like doing all the driving and planning, especially since we didn’t know the area at all. And since our English isn’t great, having French-speaking guides was a big comfort.
We found Emmanuelle and Isabelle, and wow, they were fantastic. It was just the two of us with them, so it was a truly VIP, ultra-personalized experience. They treated us like royalty from start to finish. These two live in Las Vegas and know the region like the back of their hand. They told us they’ve spent over 15 years exploring every corner of the American West, and it really shows. Their knowledge of geology, park history, and local anecdotes is just impressive. It’s nothing like someone reciting a memorized script. They answer all your questions and really adapt to what you want to see or do.
What we really loved: the vehicle was super comfortable, and the little details made a difference—like snacks and even a homemade cake! Though, to be fair, we devoured the cake right away, so that counts.
Since they know the sites inside out, they took us at the right times to avoid crowds. So we could enjoy peaceful picnics at Grand Canyon viewpoints without being packed in with 200 people. Plus, on top of the must-see spots, they showed us some hidden gems that were absolutely stunning—places we never would’ve found on our own. They’re true locals who know all the best tips.
The service was really personalized. They adapted to our pace and preferences, and we could stop whenever we wanted to take photos. It’s the luxury of being in a small private group—you’re not just a number on a big bus. In short, we really felt like we were traveling with friends rather than professional guides. Everything’s included in the price (hotel pickup, meals, park entries, etc.), so the value for money is fair.
We loved it so much that we’re already planning to come back next year to explore other areas with them. I think we’ve caught the American West bug—it’s all we can think about, and we can’t wait to return.
If you’re looking for a French-speaking tour with real personalized service and guides who know the region like no one else, we highly recommend them. We had unforgettable moments. They also design road trips for those who don’t want a guide. And they handled our hotel reservations in Las Vegas too. If you want genuine advice from friendly locals, we’re giving them a 200% recommendation!