Avis sur notre itinéraire dans l'Ouest américain et Yellowstone?
by Choudsé
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonsoir à tous,
Voici l'itinéraire que nous avons prévu pour l'été 2012, pour info nous voyagerons avec 2 enfants (8 et 11 ans) j'ai calculé que notre périple fera environ 4.000 km. Bref qu'en pensez-vous???? J'ai peur que se soit la course et de ne pas profiter pleinement......🤪
Mes interrogations sont plus particulièrement tournées vers nos journées à Yellowstone (assez de temps consacré??) Cody est il indispensable? Meilleure route de redescendre vers Moab???
Merci pour votre aide😉J1-2 LAS VEGAS 2 NUITSJ-3 VALLEY OF FIRE / ZION
NUIT SPRINGDALEJ-4 BRYCE CANYONNUIT TROPICJ-5 SALT LAKE CITY / NUITJ-6 ANTELOP ISLAND / JACSON HOLE NUITJ-7 GRAND TETON / NUITJ-8 YELLOWSTONEJ-9 YELLOWSTONEJ-10 ROUTE VERS CODY /NUITJ-11 ROUTE VERS VERNAL / NUITJ-12 MOAB / NUITJ-13 MOAB /NUITJ-14 MONUMENT VALLEY / NUITJ-15 PAGE /NUITJ-16 GRAND CANYON /NUITJ-17 RETOUR LAS VEGASJe suis ouverte à toutes critiques et vos avis me seront très utiles😏
Bonjour,
Voici grâce au "Pack préparation voyage dans l'Ouest" quelques idées...
(copyright de WonderJacqueline
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Pour donner qq idées, voici qq itinéraires possibles en 15 jours : http://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=3145721#3145721 en 20 jours : http://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=3141166#3141166
Vous verrez l'intérêt de prendre un vol multi-destination (par ex : arrivée à Las Vegas, départ au nord de Yellowstone) et parfois de prendre un vol intérieur Cela permet au final de gagner un temps précieux, d'économiser son énergie et son argent...
Et voici qq outils pour préparer au mieux votre voyage :
http://maps.google.com/: pour calculer les distances et temps de route (très important et souvent sous-estimés... à faire apparaître noir sur blanc sur votre circuit !)
http://www.ouestusa.fr/: descriptif complet de sites mentionnant les visites à faire et le temps à consacrer à chaque visite. A lire à tout prix!
http://www.roadtrippin.fr/: descriptif complet de sites A lire très vite aussi!
http://www.nps.gov/index.htm: site officiel des parcs : cartes + descriptif en anglais des parcs, sites…. A ne pas manquer non plus!
Et encore d’autres aussi en français : http://theusa.free.fr/ http://www.parcs.net/ http://www.arizona-dream.com http://www.america-dreamz.com/ Plus bien sûr les nombreux carnets de voyage situés ds la rubrique ad hoc du forum
) Pour donner qq idées, voici qq itinéraires possibles en 15 jours : http://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=3145721#3145721 en 20 jours : http://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=3141166#3141166
Vous verrez l'intérêt de prendre un vol multi-destination (par ex : arrivée à Las Vegas, départ au nord de Yellowstone) et parfois de prendre un vol intérieur Cela permet au final de gagner un temps précieux, d'économiser son énergie et son argent...
Et voici qq outils pour préparer au mieux votre voyage :
http://maps.google.com/: pour calculer les distances et temps de route (très important et souvent sous-estimés... à faire apparaître noir sur blanc sur votre circuit !)
http://www.ouestusa.fr/: descriptif complet de sites mentionnant les visites à faire et le temps à consacrer à chaque visite. A lire à tout prix!
http://www.roadtrippin.fr/: descriptif complet de sites A lire très vite aussi!
http://www.nps.gov/index.htm: site officiel des parcs : cartes + descriptif en anglais des parcs, sites…. A ne pas manquer non plus!
Et encore d’autres aussi en français : http://theusa.free.fr/ http://www.parcs.net/ http://www.arizona-dream.com http://www.america-dreamz.com/ Plus bien sûr les nombreux carnets de voyage situés ds la rubrique ad hoc du forum
Conseils pour circuits dans l'Ouest américain : https://voyageforum.com/forum/conseils_etablir_son_circuit_dans_ouest_americain_resume_D5303777/
parmis les circuits proposés il y en a un tout indiqué :
(c'est le même à l'envers, non ?)
Variante incluant Moab et le Yellowstone , à partir de Las Vegas (ou Phoenix):
J1 : Vol pour Las Vegas (ou Phoenix) J2 : Las Vegas (ou Phoenix)- Grand Canyon (South Rim) J3 : Grand Canyon - Page J4 : Page - Monument Valley J5 : Gooseneck, Valley of Gods - Moab J6 : Moab J7 : Moab J8 : Moab - Vernal J9 : Vernal - Jackson Hole J10 : Jackson Hole - Grand Teton - Yellowstone J11 : Yellowstone J12 : Yellowstone J13 : Yellowstone J14 : Yellowstone - Salt Lake City J15 : Salt Lake City - Capitol Reef - Torrey J16 : Torrey - Bryce Canyon J17 : Bryce Canyon - Zion J18 : Zion - Las Vegas J19 : Las Vegas J20 : Retour
J1 : Vol pour Las Vegas (ou Phoenix) J2 : Las Vegas (ou Phoenix)- Grand Canyon (South Rim) J3 : Grand Canyon - Page J4 : Page - Monument Valley J5 : Gooseneck, Valley of Gods - Moab J6 : Moab J7 : Moab J8 : Moab - Vernal J9 : Vernal - Jackson Hole J10 : Jackson Hole - Grand Teton - Yellowstone J11 : Yellowstone J12 : Yellowstone J13 : Yellowstone J14 : Yellowstone - Salt Lake City J15 : Salt Lake City - Capitol Reef - Torrey J16 : Torrey - Bryce Canyon J17 : Bryce Canyon - Zion J18 : Zion - Las Vegas J19 : Las Vegas J20 : Retour
Conseils pour circuits dans l'Ouest américain : https://voyageforum.com/forum/conseils_etablir_son_circuit_dans_ouest_americain_resume_D5303777/
Merci pour tes lumières ! L'itinéraire que tu m'as indiqué est le m^me mais dans le sens inverse, c'est mieux??? As tu une idée d'un vol las vegas - yellowstone?😎
D'après mes souvenirs de lecture du Forum,
il me semble que l'aéroport choisi pour venir à Yellowstone serait celui de Cody :
http://www.nps.gov/...tivemap/transpto.htm
East Entrance - Closest airline service to the East Entrance is Cody, WY.
http://maps.google.fr/...Q&mra=ls&z=9
ensuite, avec un vol multidestination,
l'idée serait de commencer par Yellowstone,
puis de "descendre" vers le Colorado Plateau,
pour retrouver Bryce, Moab, etc.
Puis de repartir de Las Vegas par ex,
ça évite de faire une boucle...😇
Conseils pour circuits dans l'Ouest américain : https://voyageforum.com/forum/conseils_etablir_son_circuit_dans_ouest_americain_resume_D5303777/
Après avoir visité Yellowstone,
en redescendant par Grand Teton NP,
vous pourriez peut-être prendre un vol intérieur à Jackson Hole,
pour rejoindre Vegas (ou Phoenix)
(et hop ! 1000 km d'un coup...) 😇
et faire une des boucles proposées sur 15 j...
http://maps.google.fr/...&mra=ls&z=11
J1-J4 : Yellowstone + J1 : vol intérieur - Arrivée à Phoenix (ou Las Vegas) J2 : Phoenix - Grand Canyon J3 : Grand Canyon - Page J4 : Page - Monument Valley J5 : Monument Valley - Moab J6 : Moab (Arches NP) J7 : Moab (Canyonlands NP- Dead Horse Point) J8 : Moab - Torrey (Capitol Reef) J9 : Torrey - Bryce Canyon J10 : Bryce Canyon J11 : Bryce Canyon - Zion * J12 : Zion - Las Vegas J13 : Las Vegas J14 : Las Vegas -
J1-J4 : Yellowstone + J1 : vol intérieur - Arrivée à Phoenix (ou Las Vegas) J2 : Phoenix - Grand Canyon J3 : Grand Canyon - Page J4 : Page - Monument Valley J5 : Monument Valley - Moab J6 : Moab (Arches NP) J7 : Moab (Canyonlands NP- Dead Horse Point) J8 : Moab - Torrey (Capitol Reef) J9 : Torrey - Bryce Canyon J10 : Bryce Canyon J11 : Bryce Canyon - Zion * J12 : Zion - Las Vegas J13 : Las Vegas J14 : Las Vegas -
Conseils pour circuits dans l'Ouest américain : https://voyageforum.com/forum/conseils_etablir_son_circuit_dans_ouest_americain_resume_D5303777/
Bonsoir,
Pour Yellowstone, les aéroports utilisés sont Jackson Hole et Bozeman.
Patrick
Pour Yellowstone, les aéroports utilisés sont Jackson Hole et Bozeman.
Patrick
On ne vit qu'une fois !
Mes USA 1998 2000 ... : http://sites.google.com/site/heavencanwaitno/
USA 2008 : http://sites.google.com/site/heavencanwaitno/home/usa-2008
USA 2011 : http://sites.google.com/site/heavencanwaitno/home/usa-2011
L'itinéraire que tu m'as indiqué est le m^me mais dans le sens inverse
c'est vrai, mais pas tout à fait... le circuit proposé est sur 20 jours ! une des différences est sur les jours passés à Yellowstone... Un post en ce moment se propose d'y passer plus de 5 jours !!! Il serait dommage de n'y passer que 2 jours pleins (donc 3 nuits...) car en fait ça déséquilibre pas mal le reste du parcours... Comme souvent dans l'Ouest il faut faire des choix (surtout avec les enfants...) il y a pas mal de circuits intéressants sur 18 jours rien qu'en restant sur le Colorado Plateau...
c'est vrai, mais pas tout à fait... le circuit proposé est sur 20 jours ! une des différences est sur les jours passés à Yellowstone... Un post en ce moment se propose d'y passer plus de 5 jours !!! Il serait dommage de n'y passer que 2 jours pleins (donc 3 nuits...) car en fait ça déséquilibre pas mal le reste du parcours... Comme souvent dans l'Ouest il faut faire des choix (surtout avec les enfants...) il y a pas mal de circuits intéressants sur 18 jours rien qu'en restant sur le Colorado Plateau...
Conseils pour circuits dans l'Ouest américain : https://voyageforum.com/forum/conseils_etablir_son_circuit_dans_ouest_americain_resume_D5303777/
par exemple celui-ci : (merci à son auteur qui se reconnaîtra 😉)
et c'est déjà bien rempli pour des vacances avec des plus jeunes...
J1 LV hôtel Bill's Gamblin 0 départ vol Bruxelles 12h45 midi-arrivée LasVegas 20h37- visite LV (Strip1) J2 Valley of Fire Atlatl 130 564-147-167 Walmart LV-Valley of Fire (randonnées)- Musée voitures (ImpérialP) J3 Zion watchman 290 169-15-9-91 StGeorge-SnowCanyon/RedCliffs (randonnées)-Springdale- StGeorge (temple) J4 Bryce North 80 Bryce: ScenicDrive (randonnées)- J5 Capitol reef fruita 280 24/12/63 KodachromeB-EscalantePF-BurrTrail-Boulder-Torrey-Fruita- Musée AnasaziStatePark (Boulder) J6 Moab KOA 270 24-70-191 CapitolReef: ScenicDrive (randonnées)-GoblinValley-Moab J7 Arches Devils Garden 130 128 Arches: ScenicDrive (randonnées)-route UT128- vol avion 1h (Moab/Canyonland) J8 Moab KOA 250 279-313-191-313 Arches (randonnées)-Rte279-DeadHP-Canyonland Island (randonnées)- J9 MesaVerde Morefields 350 191-211 Canyonland Needles (randonnées)-Monticello-MesaVerde J10 Chelly SpiderRock 330 160-191 MesaVerde: ScenicDrive- FourStatesC-Chinle-CanyonChelly site SpuceTreeHouse J11 MonumentV Goulding's 240 191-59-163 CdeChelly: ScenicDrive/WhiteHouse-Kayenta-MonumentValley- NavajoStadehouseMuseum (Kayenta) J12 MonumentV Goulding's 170 163-261-316-163 MexicanHat-Gooseneck-MulleyPoint-ValleyGods-Bluff/TRocks-MV- Goulding's tour 4x4 (3h30 à MV) J13 Page Wahweap 250 163-160-564-160-98 NavajoNM-Page-Wahweap-GlenCanyonDam- LakePowell (tour bateau 1h30) J14 Gcanyon Mather 260 89-64 HorseshoesB-AntelopeC-GC: ScenicD deDesertV à Village- 4x4+visite AntelopeCanyon LetU J15 Holbrook Koa 390 64-89-40 Wupatki-SunsetC-MétéorC-Holbrook- J16 Flagstaff WoodyM 240 40 PetrifiedForest-PaintedDesert-WalnutCanyon-Flagstaff- MuseumClubCountry (Flagstaff) J17 Kingman Koa 260 66 Williams-Seligman-PeachSpring-Hackberry-Kingman- VC de OldRoute66 (Hackberry) J18 LV
J1 LV hôtel Bill's Gamblin 0 départ vol Bruxelles 12h45 midi-arrivée LasVegas 20h37- visite LV (Strip1) J2 Valley of Fire Atlatl 130 564-147-167 Walmart LV-Valley of Fire (randonnées)- Musée voitures (ImpérialP) J3 Zion watchman 290 169-15-9-91 StGeorge-SnowCanyon/RedCliffs (randonnées)-Springdale- StGeorge (temple) J4 Bryce North 80 Bryce: ScenicDrive (randonnées)- J5 Capitol reef fruita 280 24/12/63 KodachromeB-EscalantePF-BurrTrail-Boulder-Torrey-Fruita- Musée AnasaziStatePark (Boulder) J6 Moab KOA 270 24-70-191 CapitolReef: ScenicDrive (randonnées)-GoblinValley-Moab J7 Arches Devils Garden 130 128 Arches: ScenicDrive (randonnées)-route UT128- vol avion 1h (Moab/Canyonland) J8 Moab KOA 250 279-313-191-313 Arches (randonnées)-Rte279-DeadHP-Canyonland Island (randonnées)- J9 MesaVerde Morefields 350 191-211 Canyonland Needles (randonnées)-Monticello-MesaVerde J10 Chelly SpiderRock 330 160-191 MesaVerde: ScenicDrive- FourStatesC-Chinle-CanyonChelly site SpuceTreeHouse J11 MonumentV Goulding's 240 191-59-163 CdeChelly: ScenicDrive/WhiteHouse-Kayenta-MonumentValley- NavajoStadehouseMuseum (Kayenta) J12 MonumentV Goulding's 170 163-261-316-163 MexicanHat-Gooseneck-MulleyPoint-ValleyGods-Bluff/TRocks-MV- Goulding's tour 4x4 (3h30 à MV) J13 Page Wahweap 250 163-160-564-160-98 NavajoNM-Page-Wahweap-GlenCanyonDam- LakePowell (tour bateau 1h30) J14 Gcanyon Mather 260 89-64 HorseshoesB-AntelopeC-GC: ScenicD deDesertV à Village- 4x4+visite AntelopeCanyon LetU J15 Holbrook Koa 390 64-89-40 Wupatki-SunsetC-MétéorC-Holbrook- J16 Flagstaff WoodyM 240 40 PetrifiedForest-PaintedDesert-WalnutCanyon-Flagstaff- MuseumClubCountry (Flagstaff) J17 Kingman Koa 260 66 Williams-Seligman-PeachSpring-Hackberry-Kingman- VC de OldRoute66 (Hackberry) J18 LV
Conseils pour circuits dans l'Ouest américain : https://voyageforum.com/forum/conseils_etablir_son_circuit_dans_ouest_americain_resume_D5303777/
Pong, merci pour tous tes conseils😉 c'est pourquoi je viens sur ce forum afin d'avoir des avis extérieurs!! Je vais faire des recherche sur les vols et en effet arriver au plus près de Yellowstone....au départ de Nice je pensais que LAs vegas serait plus simple ! Enfin as tu une idée du prix d'un vol intérieur yelllowstone- las vegas ??? Encore Merci🙂
Merci Patrick, une idée du prix d'un vol intérieur vers vegas ???
Pour chercher des prix :
http://www.jetcost.com/
http://www.farecompare.com/
http://www.skyscanner.fr/
En gros pour juin 2012 par exemple : Vegas/Jackson Hole 200$ escale Vegas/Salt Lake City 150$ direct Vegas/Bozeman 300$ escale
Patrick
En gros pour juin 2012 par exemple : Vegas/Jackson Hole 200$ escale Vegas/Salt Lake City 150$ direct Vegas/Bozeman 300$ escale
Patrick
On ne vit qu'une fois !
Mes USA 1998 2000 ... : http://sites.google.com/site/heavencanwaitno/
USA 2008 : http://sites.google.com/site/heavencanwaitno/home/usa-2008
USA 2011 : http://sites.google.com/site/heavencanwaitno/home/usa-2011
Merci pour l'info, 150usd x 4 : ce fait un budget supplémentaire.....🙁
C'est sûr ! C'est une option que je ne conseille pas souvent surtout à 4.
D'autant plus que Salt Lake City n'est pas le meilleur choix surtout si l'on envisage une sortie par le sud du park, dans ce cas là commencer par le Nord (Bozeman) est plus logique pour faire le "huit" de Yellowstone et finir par Grand Teton et Jackson Hole.
Patrick
Patrick
On ne vit qu'une fois !
Mes USA 1998 2000 ... : http://sites.google.com/site/heavencanwaitno/
USA 2008 : http://sites.google.com/site/heavencanwaitno/home/usa-2008
USA 2011 : http://sites.google.com/site/heavencanwaitno/home/usa-2011
c'est un casse t^te de mettre en place un itinéraire "idéal", surtout que j'ai très envie de faire un tour à San Francisco (que j'ai adoré lors de notre précédent voyage sans enfants!!), bref il faudra faire des compromis😕
Ce qui compte c'est ton idéal à toi selon tes envies et possibilités, les souvenirs n'en seront que plus beaux !
Patrick
Patrick
On ne vit qu'une fois !
Mes USA 1998 2000 ... : http://sites.google.com/site/heavencanwaitno/
USA 2008 : http://sites.google.com/site/heavencanwaitno/home/usa-2008
USA 2011 : http://sites.google.com/site/heavencanwaitno/home/usa-2011
Dans ce cas , pourquoi ne pas imaginer un parcours comme celui-ci ?
J1: arrivée à SF J2-J4 : 3 jours pleins à SF, le prix de vol intérieur SF->Vegas est plutôt bon marché, à vérifier (pour moi ça avait été 30€ !) puis boucle classique à partir de Vegas J1 : vol intérieur - Arrivée à Las Vegas J2 : Las Vegas - Grand Canyon J3 : Grand Canyon - Page J4 : Page - Monument Valley J5 : Monument Valley - Moab J6 : Moab (Arches NP) J7 : Moab (Canyonlands NP- Dead Horse Point) J8 : Moab - Torrey (Capitol Reef) J9 : Torrey - Bryce Canyon J10 : Bryce Canyon J11 : Bryce Canyon - Zion * J12 : Zion - Las Vegas J13 : Las Vegas J14 : Las Vegas -
L'avantage c'est que ça équilibre un peu le coté "ville/culture" et le coté "parcs naturels" (risque de saturation si il n'y a que des "rochers" sur 18 jours !)🤪 c'est vrai qu'à SF il y a de quoi faire, et Alcatraz plaira sûrement à des plus jeunes (visionner "The Rock" comme avant goût !) (ou "Papillon")
Si vous optez pour les vélos à SF (ce qui est très sympathique et écologique !😉)
et le tramway, vous pourrez commencer la location de la voiture à Vegas seulement
(attention, éviter d'arriver à Vegas un W-E
pour les prix des hôtels et la disponibilité des voitures de location !)
Je pense que les parcs et les activités autour de Moab conviennent bien pour des plus jeunes, car on peut vraiment entrer en contact avec les arches (explorations), le rafting, les randos VTT, etc... C'est vrai que c'est un casse-tête au début, mais une fois les choix faits, 😇 on se concentre vraiment sur ce qu'on fera, sans frustrations, sans courir après les kilomètres ! Bon courage ! 🙂
J1: arrivée à SF J2-J4 : 3 jours pleins à SF, le prix de vol intérieur SF->Vegas est plutôt bon marché, à vérifier (pour moi ça avait été 30€ !) puis boucle classique à partir de Vegas J1 : vol intérieur - Arrivée à Las Vegas J2 : Las Vegas - Grand Canyon J3 : Grand Canyon - Page J4 : Page - Monument Valley J5 : Monument Valley - Moab J6 : Moab (Arches NP) J7 : Moab (Canyonlands NP- Dead Horse Point) J8 : Moab - Torrey (Capitol Reef) J9 : Torrey - Bryce Canyon J10 : Bryce Canyon J11 : Bryce Canyon - Zion * J12 : Zion - Las Vegas J13 : Las Vegas J14 : Las Vegas -
L'avantage c'est que ça équilibre un peu le coté "ville/culture" et le coté "parcs naturels" (risque de saturation si il n'y a que des "rochers" sur 18 jours !)🤪 c'est vrai qu'à SF il y a de quoi faire, et Alcatraz plaira sûrement à des plus jeunes (visionner "The Rock" comme avant goût !) (ou "Papillon")
Si vous optez pour les vélos à SF (ce qui est très sympathique et écologique !😉)
et le tramway, vous pourrez commencer la location de la voiture à Vegas seulement
(attention, éviter d'arriver à Vegas un W-E
pour les prix des hôtels et la disponibilité des voitures de location !)Je pense que les parcs et les activités autour de Moab conviennent bien pour des plus jeunes, car on peut vraiment entrer en contact avec les arches (explorations), le rafting, les randos VTT, etc... C'est vrai que c'est un casse-tête au début, mais une fois les choix faits, 😇 on se concentre vraiment sur ce qu'on fera, sans frustrations, sans courir après les kilomètres ! Bon courage ! 🙂
Conseils pour circuits dans l'Ouest américain : https://voyageforum.com/forum/conseils_etablir_son_circuit_dans_ouest_americain_resume_D5303777/
hello
j''y suis allée l'année derniere, je te donne mon itinéraire (a titre indicatif!)
SF 2nuit
yosemite 2nuits
Las vegas 4 nuits (avec un mariage)
aprés je me rappel plus de l'ordre exact des parc mais Bryce, grand canyon et surtout monument valley sont a voir!
par contre on a pas pu aller a yellowstone pas le temps mais on ne peut pas tout faire en une fois , perso j'y retournerai!
bon voyage
Hello,
La proposition de Pong est bonne, je viens de rentrer et on la fait dans l'autre sens en commençan LA - Zion. On a passé une nuit à Zion mais si c'ets à refaire je passe que qq heure. Puis en effet les enfants avaient marre à la fin avec les rochers qui se ressemble. Ca leur plaira bien Las Vegas et la visite des hotels etc ... astuce: arriver à Las un dimanche soir c'est pas cher du tout, 45$ la nuit à Luxor ou a Harras (préférence pour harras).
Bonne planification :)
À bientôt sur les routes...
Merci,
Effectivement ton itinéraire est plus équilibré...un vol SF-LV à 30€ j'adhère😎, par contre adieu Yellowstone 🙁!!! Je continue des recherche et tout dépendra également des prix des billets d'avion Nice-LV ou Nice SF
En tout cas merci pour tes idées😛
Merci !
Nous avons déjà fait la boucle se SF jusqu'a LA en passant par yosemite, death valley, grand canyon....LA.
Nous rêvons de voir Yellowstone et de profiter des parcs de l'ouest un peu plus que la dernière fois.... et contenter également les enfants qui seront présents😛
Merci pour ta contribution😉
hello,
il y a quelque chose qui m'échappe... dans ton 1er itinéraire, tu ne parlais pas de San Francisco... comment se fait il que maintenant que SFO apparaisse dans les itinéraires proposés ? 🤪
si tu as envie d'aller à Yellowstone (qui en + plaira sûrement à des enfants), je ne vois pas pourquoi tu devrais tout d'un coup l'exclure ...
comme le disait PSI31 :
Ce qui compte c'est ton idéal à toi selon tes envies et possibilités
ce circuit (dans 1 sens ou dans l'autre) me parait tout à fait possible (mais il faut donc que tu allonges tes vacances de 2 à 3 jours) :
J1 : Vol pour Las Vegas J2 : Las Vegas J3 : Las Vegas - Valley of Fire (très tôt le matin) et route pour Zion + visite - nuit à Springdale J4 : Suite de Zion - route vers Bryce : visite et coucher de soleil - nuit à Tropic ou plus près de Bryce J5 : Suite de Bryce - route vers Torrey (sur la très belle route 12) - nuit à Torrey J6 : Capitol Reef - route vers Salt Lake City - nuit à Salt Lake City J7 : Salt Lake City - Yellowstone J8 : Yellowstone J9 : Yellowstone J10 : Yellowstone J11 : Yellowstone - Grand Teton - Jackson Hole J12 : Jackson Hole - Vernal J13 : Vernal - Moab J14 : Moab J15 : Moab J16 : Moab - Mexican Hat via Needles - Monument Valley en fin d'aprem + coucher de soleil - nuit à Mexican Hat J17 : Gooseneck, Valley of Gods - route vers Page - visites autour de Page (au choix !) J18 : Page (Antelope Canyon) - route vers Grand Canyon South Rim- début visite et coucher soleil- nuit au Maswick Lodge par ex J19 : Suite Grand Canyon - route vers Las Vegas J20 : retour
@+ Vnoa
il y a quelque chose qui m'échappe... dans ton 1er itinéraire, tu ne parlais pas de San Francisco... comment se fait il que maintenant que SFO apparaisse dans les itinéraires proposés ? 🤪
si tu as envie d'aller à Yellowstone (qui en + plaira sûrement à des enfants), je ne vois pas pourquoi tu devrais tout d'un coup l'exclure ...
comme le disait PSI31 :
Ce qui compte c'est ton idéal à toi selon tes envies et possibilités
ce circuit (dans 1 sens ou dans l'autre) me parait tout à fait possible (mais il faut donc que tu allonges tes vacances de 2 à 3 jours) :
J1 : Vol pour Las Vegas J2 : Las Vegas J3 : Las Vegas - Valley of Fire (très tôt le matin) et route pour Zion + visite - nuit à Springdale J4 : Suite de Zion - route vers Bryce : visite et coucher de soleil - nuit à Tropic ou plus près de Bryce J5 : Suite de Bryce - route vers Torrey (sur la très belle route 12) - nuit à Torrey J6 : Capitol Reef - route vers Salt Lake City - nuit à Salt Lake City J7 : Salt Lake City - Yellowstone J8 : Yellowstone J9 : Yellowstone J10 : Yellowstone J11 : Yellowstone - Grand Teton - Jackson Hole J12 : Jackson Hole - Vernal J13 : Vernal - Moab J14 : Moab J15 : Moab J16 : Moab - Mexican Hat via Needles - Monument Valley en fin d'aprem + coucher de soleil - nuit à Mexican Hat J17 : Gooseneck, Valley of Gods - route vers Page - visites autour de Page (au choix !) J18 : Page (Antelope Canyon) - route vers Grand Canyon South Rim- début visite et coucher soleil- nuit au Maswick Lodge par ex J19 : Suite Grand Canyon - route vers Las Vegas J20 : retour
@+ Vnoa
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je ne vois pas pourquoi tu devrais tout d'un coup l'exclure ...
l'inclure ?
j'ai très envie de faire un tour à San Francisco (que j'ai adoré lors de notre précédent voyage sans enfants!!)
l'inclure ?
j'ai très envie de faire un tour à San Francisco (que j'ai adoré lors de notre précédent voyage sans enfants!!)
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Hello! The itinerary is pretty much set for August 2026. Yeah, I know it’s gonna be *super* hot. But it’s the only time we can get away.
So, here’s the plan: Montpellier-CDG-Dallas.
Stay from July 31 to August 26, 2026: Car rental – check, Hotels – check, Itinerary – almost check, Photo gear – check, Budget – check, 🤪 Meal planning – meh, we’ll see... Walmart, of course, for the cooler when we arrive.
And now, without too much detail...
Fort Worth: The Longhorns and the Stockyards; JR’s ranch (for the missus); Medal of Honor Museum – Arlington.
Houston and NASA Space Center: See the Gulf of Mexico/America.
San Antonio and the missions.
Fort Stockton for an overnight stop.
El Paso via Guadalupe Mountains: El Paso and White Sands.
Tucson and the Pima Air & Space Museum: Tombstone, Bisbee.
Phoenix:
Still working on the program.
Sedona: Round trip around the area via Flagstaff and Williams, or the Grand Canyon (already done) – we’ll decide on the spot.
Albuquerque: Santa Fe, Turquoise Trail, Los Alamos.
Amarillo via Route 66: Old Route 66 in the city; Big Texas Ranch Steak 😏.
Dallas: JFK Museum; Perot Museum; West End district.
And through it all – the road, the road, and more road!!!
We’ll adapt day by day based on our mental and physical state (we’re not exactly spring chickens).
Return to France: Dallas-Montpellier via CDG.
Cheers!
So, here’s the plan: Montpellier-CDG-Dallas.
Stay from July 31 to August 26, 2026: Car rental – check, Hotels – check, Itinerary – almost check, Photo gear – check, Budget – check, 🤪 Meal planning – meh, we’ll see... Walmart, of course, for the cooler when we arrive.
And now, without too much detail...
Fort Worth: The Longhorns and the Stockyards; JR’s ranch (for the missus); Medal of Honor Museum – Arlington.
Houston and NASA Space Center: See the Gulf of Mexico/America.
San Antonio and the missions.
Fort Stockton for an overnight stop.
El Paso via Guadalupe Mountains: El Paso and White Sands.
Tucson and the Pima Air & Space Museum: Tombstone, Bisbee.
Phoenix:
Still working on the program.
Sedona: Round trip around the area via Flagstaff and Williams, or the Grand Canyon (already done) – we’ll decide on the spot.
Albuquerque: Santa Fe, Turquoise Trail, Los Alamos.
Amarillo via Route 66: Old Route 66 in the city; Big Texas Ranch Steak 😏.
Dallas: JFK Museum; Perot Museum; West End district.
And through it all – the road, the road, and more road!!!
We’ll adapt day by day based on our mental and physical state (we’re not exactly spring chickens).
Return to France: Dallas-Montpellier via CDG.
Cheers!
hi everyone
I’m planning a world trip and I’m looking for great tips on accommodation in the United States.
Do you have any good deals to share, please?
thanks
Hello everyone! Really damaged due to flooding caused by runoff after forest fires (a total mess!), does anyone in this friendly forum have any updates on the Apache Trail between Apache Junction and Roosevelt Dam? Is there still a section of the road that’s tough to navigate?
Best,
Best,
Hi there,
We're leaving at the end of June and will be driving the route between Buffalo and Cody. We’ve already booked our accommodations and a rodeo in Cody, but during the day, we’ll be driving between the two and I’m unsure about the itinerary. Which route do you think is the most pleasant, interesting, or scenic between: - The northern route via Highway 14 with Sheridan, Lowell, etc. - The southern route with Highways 16/20/14, passing by Loaf Mountain Overlook, Powder River Pass, Ten Sleep Canyon...
We’ll be in a car, so we should be able to drive on any road. Thanks for your input!
Laura
We're leaving at the end of June and will be driving the route between Buffalo and Cody. We’ve already booked our accommodations and a rodeo in Cody, but during the day, we’ll be driving between the two and I’m unsure about the itinerary. Which route do you think is the most pleasant, interesting, or scenic between: - The northern route via Highway 14 with Sheridan, Lowell, etc. - The southern route with Highways 16/20/14, passing by Loaf Mountain Overlook, Powder River Pass, Ten Sleep Canyon...
We’ll be in a car, so we should be able to drive on any road. Thanks for your input!
Laura
Hi everyone! 🙂
I’m almost done planning our September road trip. After our 3-night visit to Sequoia, we’ll have a stopover night in Coalinga (to break up the drive). We’ll be staying two nights in Monterey and would like to stop along the way to visit one side of Pinnacles National Park. We’re torn between the West entrance and the East entrance, and we’d like to do a short hike of no more than 2 hours since we don’t want to arrive too late in Monterey.
This park is split into two distinct zones with no connection between them, and the mileage from Coalinga to Monterey is pretty much the same for both. Which area do you recommend visiting—east or west? And which route is the most scenic?
I’ve spotted two short hikes: - East: Moses Spring to Rim Trail Loop - West: Balconies Cliffs Cave Loop
Has anyone been there, or do you have another hike to suggest?
Thanks in advance, and have a great afternoon! Marcalamar 🙂
I’m almost done planning our September road trip. After our 3-night visit to Sequoia, we’ll have a stopover night in Coalinga (to break up the drive). We’ll be staying two nights in Monterey and would like to stop along the way to visit one side of Pinnacles National Park. We’re torn between the West entrance and the East entrance, and we’d like to do a short hike of no more than 2 hours since we don’t want to arrive too late in Monterey.
This park is split into two distinct zones with no connection between them, and the mileage from Coalinga to Monterey is pretty much the same for both. Which area do you recommend visiting—east or west? And which route is the most scenic?
I’ve spotted two short hikes: - East: Moses Spring to Rim Trail Loop - West: Balconies Cliffs Cave Loop
Has anyone been there, or do you have another hike to suggest?
Thanks in advance, and have a great afternoon! Marcalamar 🙂
Hi there,
We’re heading to Las Vegas this summer and would love to rent a classic convertible Cadillac or something similar. Any recommendations? Thanks.
We’re heading to Las Vegas this summer and would love to rent a classic convertible Cadillac or something similar. Any recommendations? Thanks.
Hello everyone,
After our first trip as a young couple to the West in 2007 (yes, that doesn’t make us any younger!), we’re planning to go back in 2028, but this time as a family of four! (We have two boys who’ll be 5½ and 13 years old in the summer of 2028.)
Our plan is to combine a few big cities (SF and LA, maybe San Diego) with national parks and state parks, mostly! Ideally, we’d like to leave at the end of June and head back to France around July 19–20, so we can enjoy the first week of the Olympic Games in Los Angeles.
Since we already did the "loop" in 2007, there are must-see places we absolutely want to revisit—and especially share with our kids: Bryce Canyon, Yosemite, and above all, the Grand Canyon, which is still the most incredible thing I’ve ever seen on Earth!
On the other hand, some places didn’t leave a big impression on us for various reasons, so we’re not making them a priority: Antelope Canyon, Monument Valley, for example.
We’re planning ahead, but might as well be smart about it😏
Do you have any tips for a fun and doable itinerary over about 20–25 days with kids, without rushing?
Thanks in advance for your feedback😉
After our first trip as a young couple to the West in 2007 (yes, that doesn’t make us any younger!), we’re planning to go back in 2028, but this time as a family of four! (We have two boys who’ll be 5½ and 13 years old in the summer of 2028.)
Our plan is to combine a few big cities (SF and LA, maybe San Diego) with national parks and state parks, mostly! Ideally, we’d like to leave at the end of June and head back to France around July 19–20, so we can enjoy the first week of the Olympic Games in Los Angeles.
Since we already did the "loop" in 2007, there are must-see places we absolutely want to revisit—and especially share with our kids: Bryce Canyon, Yosemite, and above all, the Grand Canyon, which is still the most incredible thing I’ve ever seen on Earth!
On the other hand, some places didn’t leave a big impression on us for various reasons, so we’re not making them a priority: Antelope Canyon, Monument Valley, for example.
We’re planning ahead, but might as well be smart about it😏
Do you have any tips for a fun and doable itinerary over about 20–25 days with kids, without rushing?
Thanks in advance for your feedback😉
Hi everyone! 🙂
Just a quick question about King Canyon and Sequoia National Park.
Before our night in Miramonte, we plan to visit King Canyon. The next stop will be two nights in Three Rivers to explore Sequoia National Park. I wanted to go all the way to Roaring River Falls on the King Canyon Scenic Byway and then turn back to head to Miramonte. Since we’re coming from Oakhurst, Google Maps says it’s 300 km and 5 hours of driving. Since we also want to hike to see the sequoias (Big Stump Area and Grand Grove) before tackling the King Canyon Scenic Byway, the timing’s going to be tight. How far do you recommend going before turning back to miss as few points of interest as possible on the King Canyon Scenic Byway? Thanks for your advice, and have a great evening!
Marcalamar 🙂
Hi everyone!
After years of hoping, waiting, planning, then changing, saving, and searching for the best possible route... we're FINALLY off this summer for a 5-week road trip in the West.
I had planned a trip to Colorado in 2021 but canceled due to COVID, so with time passing and my eldest’s high school graduation approaching fast, I figured it was now or never!
Anyway, the itinerary has been modified and extended to please everyone (I’m no longer the only one making decisions!!)
Here’s our final route: Day 1 - 7/12/2026 - Brussels / Los Angeles Day 2 - 7/13/2026 - Los Angeles Day 3 - 7/14/2026 - Los Angeles Day 4 - 7/15/2026 - Los Angeles Day 5 - 7/16/2026 - Los Angeles Day 6 - 7/17/2026 - Los Angeles / Kingman Day 7 - 7/18/2026 - Kingman / Grand Canyon Day 8 - 7/19/2026 - Grand Canyon / Page Day 9 - 7/20/2026 - Page Day 10 - 7/21/2026 - Page / Monument Valley Day 11 - 7/22/2026 - Monument Valley / Durango Day 12 - 7/23/2026 - Durango Day 13 - 7/24/2026 - Durango Day 14 - 7/25/2026 - Durango Day 15 - 7/26/2026 - Durango / Glenwood Springs Day 16 - 7/27/2026 - Glenwood Springs Day 17 - 7/28/2026 - Glenwood Springs / Moab Day 18 - 7/29/2026 - Moab Day 19 - 7/30/2026 - Moab Day 20 - 7/31/2026 - Moab Day 21 - 8/1/2026 - Moab Day 22 - 8/2/2026 - Moab / Vernal Day 23 - 8/3/2026 - Vernal / Grand Teton Day 24 - 8/4/2026 - Grand Teton Day 25 - 8/5/2026 - Grand Teton / Cody Day 26 - 8/6/2026 - Cody / Yellowstone Day 27 - 8/7/2026 - Yellowstone Day 28 - 8/8/2026 - Yellowstone Day 29 - 8/9/2026 - Yellowstone Day 30 - 8/10/2026 - Yellowstone / Salt Lake City Day 31 - 8/11/2026 - Salt Lake City / Bryce Canyon Day 32 - 8/12/2026 - Bryce Canyon / Zion Day 33 - 8/13/2026 - Zion Day 34 - 8/14/2026 - Zion Day 35 - 8/15/2026 - Zion / Las Vegas Day 36 - 8/16/2026 - Las Vegas Day 37 - 8/17/2026 - Las Vegas / Los Angeles Day 38 - 8/18/2026 - Los Angeles Day 39 - 8/19/2026 - Los Angeles / Brussels Day 40 - 8/20/2026 - Brussels / Home
We’ll be alternating between house swaps, motels, and campgrounds. I’ve booked all the accommodations (except the campground at Bryce since sunset bookings open only 14 days in advance) and the first activities, as well as the most touristy ones.
I’m currently putting together my day-by-day roadbook and having some trouble planning certain days, like in LA or Las Vegas. Choosing hikes isn’t easy either—it’s tough to decide!
We’re really excited but could definitely use your help with choices and optimizations!!
I had planned a trip to Colorado in 2021 but canceled due to COVID, so with time passing and my eldest’s high school graduation approaching fast, I figured it was now or never!
Anyway, the itinerary has been modified and extended to please everyone (I’m no longer the only one making decisions!!)
Here’s our final route: Day 1 - 7/12/2026 - Brussels / Los Angeles Day 2 - 7/13/2026 - Los Angeles Day 3 - 7/14/2026 - Los Angeles Day 4 - 7/15/2026 - Los Angeles Day 5 - 7/16/2026 - Los Angeles Day 6 - 7/17/2026 - Los Angeles / Kingman Day 7 - 7/18/2026 - Kingman / Grand Canyon Day 8 - 7/19/2026 - Grand Canyon / Page Day 9 - 7/20/2026 - Page Day 10 - 7/21/2026 - Page / Monument Valley Day 11 - 7/22/2026 - Monument Valley / Durango Day 12 - 7/23/2026 - Durango Day 13 - 7/24/2026 - Durango Day 14 - 7/25/2026 - Durango Day 15 - 7/26/2026 - Durango / Glenwood Springs Day 16 - 7/27/2026 - Glenwood Springs Day 17 - 7/28/2026 - Glenwood Springs / Moab Day 18 - 7/29/2026 - Moab Day 19 - 7/30/2026 - Moab Day 20 - 7/31/2026 - Moab Day 21 - 8/1/2026 - Moab Day 22 - 8/2/2026 - Moab / Vernal Day 23 - 8/3/2026 - Vernal / Grand Teton Day 24 - 8/4/2026 - Grand Teton Day 25 - 8/5/2026 - Grand Teton / Cody Day 26 - 8/6/2026 - Cody / Yellowstone Day 27 - 8/7/2026 - Yellowstone Day 28 - 8/8/2026 - Yellowstone Day 29 - 8/9/2026 - Yellowstone Day 30 - 8/10/2026 - Yellowstone / Salt Lake City Day 31 - 8/11/2026 - Salt Lake City / Bryce Canyon Day 32 - 8/12/2026 - Bryce Canyon / Zion Day 33 - 8/13/2026 - Zion Day 34 - 8/14/2026 - Zion Day 35 - 8/15/2026 - Zion / Las Vegas Day 36 - 8/16/2026 - Las Vegas Day 37 - 8/17/2026 - Las Vegas / Los Angeles Day 38 - 8/18/2026 - Los Angeles Day 39 - 8/19/2026 - Los Angeles / Brussels Day 40 - 8/20/2026 - Brussels / Home
We’ll be alternating between house swaps, motels, and campgrounds. I’ve booked all the accommodations (except the campground at Bryce since sunset bookings open only 14 days in advance) and the first activities, as well as the most touristy ones.
I’m currently putting together my day-by-day roadbook and having some trouble planning certain days, like in LA or Las Vegas. Choosing hikes isn’t easy either—it’s tough to decide!
We’re really excited but could definitely use your help with choices and optimizations!!
Hello.
I’d like to travel along I-15N from San Diego to Las Vegas with my mom, who’s 67. We’ve explored Northern California and the California Coast over the past two years and now want to continue through the desert.
There are several attractions along the way: - Mormon Rocks - Desert Discovery Center and visit the Old Woman meteorite - Joshua Tree National Park - Mojave Desert - Mojave National Preserve - Anza-Borrego Desert State Park - Silverwood Lake
My mom has back issues that prevent her from hiking or walking on trails with elevation changes. Is it possible to visit these places by car, or are the routes flat enough?
I’d love for her to experience the desert with an itinerary adapted to her condition. I’m also open to other points of interest that aren’t mentioned. We have 3-4 days for the trip, so we’re not in a rush—just want to explore.
Thanks so much. The trip would be in fall 2026
There are several attractions along the way: - Mormon Rocks - Desert Discovery Center and visit the Old Woman meteorite - Joshua Tree National Park - Mojave Desert - Mojave National Preserve - Anza-Borrego Desert State Park - Silverwood Lake
My mom has back issues that prevent her from hiking or walking on trails with elevation changes. Is it possible to visit these places by car, or are the routes flat enough?
I’d love for her to experience the desert with an itinerary adapted to her condition. I’m also open to other points of interest that aren’t mentioned. We have 3-4 days for the trip, so we’re not in a rush—just want to explore.
Thanks so much. The trip would be in fall 2026
Hi there,
I’d love to take a road trip and visit Nova Scotia. I’d appreciate some info on the best cities to see and the most interesting spots. The trip should last about 10 to 15 days, staying in hotels or motels. Thanks in advance!
I’d love to take a road trip and visit Nova Scotia. I’d appreciate some info on the best cities to see and the most interesting spots. The trip should last about 10 to 15 days, staying in hotels or motels. Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
Quick question—I’m heading to New York soon and I’d love to know if you guys have any recommendations for websites where I can buy concert tickets?
Quick question—I’m heading to New York soon and I’d love to know if you guys have any recommendations for websites where I can buy concert tickets?
Hi there,
We’re being relocated to Saint Pierre and Miquelon. We’ll be taking the flight from Nantes to Montreal and then from Montreal to Saint Pierre. Could you recommend a hotel near the departure terminal that allows dogs?
Thanks!
We’re being relocated to Saint Pierre and Miquelon. We’ll be taking the flight from Nantes to Montreal and then from Montreal to Saint Pierre. Could you recommend a hotel near the departure terminal that allows dogs?
Thanks!
Hi,
My 16-year-old son is flying to Grand Rapids with other kids his age. There’s a layover in Detroit. There’s no unaccompanied minor service available. Is it pretty easy to navigate Detroit Airport to catch the connecting flight to Grand Rapids (domestic flight)? There are several of them who speak English well.
Thanks for your replies,
Good evening, everyone! 🙂
Just a few last questions to wrap up our Lake Tahoe visit plans.
**Parking:** We’d like to walk to Eagle Falls and then Eagle Lake. I’ve spotted two parking lots that seem close to each other and give access to the trailhead. Where and how do we pay for entry to Emerald Bay State Park and Inspiration Point?
**Viewpoints on the East Side:** Are most of the viewpoints (Balancing Rock, Granite Cave, Bonsai Rock, etc.) right by the road, or do you have to hike to reach them?
**Donner Memorial State Park:** Is it worth making a detour to Truckee to visit this park and the Truckee historic downtown?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
**Parking:** We’d like to walk to Eagle Falls and then Eagle Lake. I’ve spotted two parking lots that seem close to each other and give access to the trailhead. Where and how do we pay for entry to Emerald Bay State Park and Inspiration Point?
**Viewpoints on the East Side:** Are most of the viewpoints (Balancing Rock, Granite Cave, Bonsai Rock, etc.) right by the road, or do you have to hike to reach them?
**Donner Memorial State Park:** Is it worth making a detour to Truckee to visit this park and the Truckee historic downtown?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
Hi there. I'm shocked by the price of the Upper Antelope Canyon tour—$175 for less than an hour… You might say, "if you can’t afford it…" But the real question is whether it’s really worth it, because $350 for two makes me feel like I’m getting ripped off. For those who’ve done both Lower and Upper, can you tell me if the price difference is really justified? Thanks
Hi everyone! 🙂
As you can see, we're heading back from September 6th to the 27th.
Everything’s booked for September—flights, accommodations, and the car. As I plan, I’ll be asking the experts for help. This is our second trip to California, but most of the stops are new to us.
We’ll start directly from San Francisco to our first overnight stop, Davis, before heading to Lassen Volcanic Park for 4 nights. Our flight lands at 12:50 PM.
Here’s our itinerary: Day 1: Davis – overnight stop Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen) Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes) Day 6: South Lake Tahoe Day 7: South Lake Tahoe Day 8: Mammoth Lake Day 9: Mammoth Lake Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road Day 11: El Portal Day 12: El Portal Day 13: Oakhurst Day 14: Miramonte Day 15: Three Rivers Day 16: Three Rivers Day 17: Coalinga Day 18: Monterey Day 19: Monterey Day 20: San Francisco Day 21: San Francisco Day 22: Departure
For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned: Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2) Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3) Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4) Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)
I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV? Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?
That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening! Marcalamar 🙂
Here’s our itinerary: Day 1: Davis – overnight stop Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen) Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes) Day 6: South Lake Tahoe Day 7: South Lake Tahoe Day 8: Mammoth Lake Day 9: Mammoth Lake Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road Day 11: El Portal Day 12: El Portal Day 13: Oakhurst Day 14: Miramonte Day 15: Three Rivers Day 16: Three Rivers Day 17: Coalinga Day 18: Monterey Day 19: Monterey Day 20: San Francisco Day 21: San Francisco Day 22: Departure
For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned: Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2) Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3) Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4) Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)
I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV? Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?
That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening! Marcalamar 🙂
Here's a tip for future visitors!
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/3-national-parks-slash-red-tape-americans-boldly-transforming-visitor-entry
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/3-national-parks-slash-red-tape-americans-boldly-transforming-visitor-entry
Hi everyone,
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast. I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October. My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips. I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks to everyone for your advice and help.
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast. I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October. My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips. I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks to everyone for your advice and help.
Thanks for advising me on the booking—should I reserve a room in the hotel or go for a cabin for the best view?
Should I get breakfast or not?
What do you think of the restaurant?
Hello, if the off-the-beaten-path enthusiasts are still around 😉, I’d love some info on tackling these trails. I’m not super familiar with the rules, risks, or what to expect—I’m looking for firsthand experience from folks who’ve done it on their own once or multiple times.
Hi everyone!
I’m planning a week-long family trip to NYC in October 2026. The focus is on museums and soaking up the New York vibe. I’ve been checking Airbnb, but the prices in Manhattan are through the roof. Since I don’t know NYC well, is it "wise" to look outside Manhattan? Any neighborhoods you’d recommend?
Hello,
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas) T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC) W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV) F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Christophe
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas) T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC) W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV) F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Christophe
Hi North America forum crew,
Just a little post that might interest some of you:
Travelers to the United States | Photo Now Mandatory Upon Entry and Exit | La Presse
Hi everyone.
I assume many of you already know, but the America the Beautiful annual pass, which was $80, will increase to $250 starting January 1, 2026.
So if you're planning to travel before the end of December 2026, it's in your best interest to buy your pass in December 2025, since it will still cost $80 and be valid until the end of December 2026 if you purchase it in December 2025.
This price increase only applies to non-U.S. residents.
Additionally, for those who planned to visit just one park, a $100 surcharge per person will apply to access a list of 11 national parks... For example, if there are 4 of you in a car, you’ll have to pay $35 + $400, which comes to $435 to visit one of the 11 parks on the list (I don’t have all of them... Bryce, Zion, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.). Total madness.
The goal is to push people who only visit one park into buying the annual pass.
Last point: free entry days are over for non-residents!
That’s all for now.
I assume many of you already know, but the America the Beautiful annual pass, which was $80, will increase to $250 starting January 1, 2026.
So if you're planning to travel before the end of December 2026, it's in your best interest to buy your pass in December 2025, since it will still cost $80 and be valid until the end of December 2026 if you purchase it in December 2025.
This price increase only applies to non-U.S. residents.
Additionally, for those who planned to visit just one park, a $100 surcharge per person will apply to access a list of 11 national parks... For example, if there are 4 of you in a car, you’ll have to pay $35 + $400, which comes to $435 to visit one of the 11 parks on the list (I don’t have all of them... Bryce, Zion, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.). Total madness.
The goal is to push people who only visit one park into buying the annual pass.
Last point: free entry days are over for non-residents!
That’s all for now.
Hi everyone, I’m traveling to Los Angeles and would like to rent a vehicle at the airport. However, I have a Boursobank Ultim deferred debit card, so I’d love to know if it’s possible for those who’ve experienced this recently. Thanks for the info!
Hi VF community,
I’m planning a week in S.F. in April 2026 and I can’t figure out how to tell the cable cars—of which I understand there are three lines—apart from the trams, which I think number seven. I can’t find their individual numbers or routes anywhere.
Could someone shed some light on this for me? Thanks in advance.
Wishing you all a Merry Christmas and a wonderful 2026 full of amazing travels. Cheers, Régine
I’m planning a week in S.F. in April 2026 and I can’t figure out how to tell the cable cars—of which I understand there are three lines—apart from the trams, which I think number seven. I can’t find their individual numbers or routes anywhere.
Could someone shed some light on this for me? Thanks in advance.
Wishing you all a Merry Christmas and a wonderful 2026 full of amazing travels. Cheers, Régine
Hi,
I’m planning a road trip through the American national parks starting from Denver in June 2026.
The price of the pass is jumping from 80 € to 250 € on January 1st, 2026!!!
Is it possible to buy the pass online before the end of the year to lock in the 80 € rate? If so, where and how do I go about it?
Thanks for your tips.
Arnale
Hi there,
I’m planning a road trip for July 2026 in northern Florida. Could you let me know if my itinerary makes sense? Day 1: Orlando Day 2: Amelia Island Day 3: Amelia Island Day 4: Tallahassee Day 5: Panama City Beach Day 6: Panama City Beach (visit to Destin) Day 7: Crystal River (stop in Cedar Key on the way) Day 8: Crystal River Day 9: Anna Maria (stop in Clearwater) Day 10: Anna Maria (St. Pete) Day 11: Anna Maria Day 12: Orlando Day 13: Orlando Day 14: Orlando Day 15: Departure
Thanks in advance for your tips!
I’m planning a road trip for July 2026 in northern Florida. Could you let me know if my itinerary makes sense? Day 1: Orlando Day 2: Amelia Island Day 3: Amelia Island Day 4: Tallahassee Day 5: Panama City Beach Day 6: Panama City Beach (visit to Destin) Day 7: Crystal River (stop in Cedar Key on the way) Day 8: Crystal River Day 9: Anna Maria (stop in Clearwater) Day 10: Anna Maria (St. Pete) Day 11: Anna Maria Day 12: Orlando Day 13: Orlando Day 14: Orlando Day 15: Departure
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Hey everyone!
We just finished 9 days in the American West and wanted to share our experience because we had an amazing time.
I know some of you might ask, why use an agency? Honestly, we didn’t really feel like doing all the driving and planning, especially since we didn’t know the area at all. And since our English isn’t great, having French-speaking guides was a big comfort.
We found Emmanuelle and Isabelle, and wow, they were fantastic. It was just the two of us with them, so it was a truly VIP, ultra-personalized experience. They treated us like royalty from start to finish. These two live in Las Vegas and know the region like the back of their hand. They told us they’ve spent over 15 years exploring every corner of the American West, and it really shows. Their knowledge of geology, park history, and local anecdotes is just impressive. It’s nothing like someone reciting a memorized script. They answer all your questions and really adapt to what you want to see or do.
What we really loved: the vehicle was super comfortable, and the little details made a difference—like snacks and even a homemade cake! Though, to be fair, we devoured the cake right away, so that counts.
Since they know the sites inside out, they took us at the right times to avoid crowds. So we could enjoy peaceful picnics at Grand Canyon viewpoints without being packed in with 200 people. Plus, on top of the must-see spots, they showed us some hidden gems that were absolutely stunning—places we never would’ve found on our own. They’re true locals who know all the best tips.
The service was really personalized. They adapted to our pace and preferences, and we could stop whenever we wanted to take photos. It’s the luxury of being in a small private group—you’re not just a number on a big bus. In short, we really felt like we were traveling with friends rather than professional guides. Everything’s included in the price (hotel pickup, meals, park entries, etc.), so the value for money is fair.
We loved it so much that we’re already planning to come back next year to explore other areas with them. I think we’ve caught the American West bug—it’s all we can think about, and we can’t wait to return.
If you’re looking for a French-speaking tour with real personalized service and guides who know the region like no one else, we highly recommend them. We had unforgettable moments. They also design road trips for those who don’t want a guide. And they handled our hotel reservations in Las Vegas too. If you want genuine advice from friendly locals, we’re giving them a 200% recommendation!
We just finished 9 days in the American West and wanted to share our experience because we had an amazing time.
I know some of you might ask, why use an agency? Honestly, we didn’t really feel like doing all the driving and planning, especially since we didn’t know the area at all. And since our English isn’t great, having French-speaking guides was a big comfort.
We found Emmanuelle and Isabelle, and wow, they were fantastic. It was just the two of us with them, so it was a truly VIP, ultra-personalized experience. They treated us like royalty from start to finish. These two live in Las Vegas and know the region like the back of their hand. They told us they’ve spent over 15 years exploring every corner of the American West, and it really shows. Their knowledge of geology, park history, and local anecdotes is just impressive. It’s nothing like someone reciting a memorized script. They answer all your questions and really adapt to what you want to see or do.
What we really loved: the vehicle was super comfortable, and the little details made a difference—like snacks and even a homemade cake! Though, to be fair, we devoured the cake right away, so that counts.
Since they know the sites inside out, they took us at the right times to avoid crowds. So we could enjoy peaceful picnics at Grand Canyon viewpoints without being packed in with 200 people. Plus, on top of the must-see spots, they showed us some hidden gems that were absolutely stunning—places we never would’ve found on our own. They’re true locals who know all the best tips.
The service was really personalized. They adapted to our pace and preferences, and we could stop whenever we wanted to take photos. It’s the luxury of being in a small private group—you’re not just a number on a big bus. In short, we really felt like we were traveling with friends rather than professional guides. Everything’s included in the price (hotel pickup, meals, park entries, etc.), so the value for money is fair.
We loved it so much that we’re already planning to come back next year to explore other areas with them. I think we’ve caught the American West bug—it’s all we can think about, and we can’t wait to return.
If you’re looking for a French-speaking tour with real personalized service and guides who know the region like no one else, we highly recommend them. We had unforgettable moments. They also design road trips for those who don’t want a guide. And they handled our hotel reservations in Las Vegas too. If you want genuine advice from friendly locals, we’re giving them a 200% recommendation!