Trois semaines en septembre 2009 dans l'Ouest américain
by Marypel
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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voici notre programme sur 3 semaines :
16 septembre : arrivée à SAN FRANCISO - prise en charge de la voiture déjà retenue.
et en route
ensuite pas de date car je ne sais absolument pas le temps qu'il faudra pour voyager et pour visiter - SEQUOIAI NP- BARSTOW (outlet) BAGDAD CAFE (un mythe, je m'en doute) - MOJAVE - GRAND CANYON par Williams- MONUMENT VALLEY- PAGE -LAKE POWELL - ANTELOPE canyon- BRYCE CANYON- ZION - ST GEORGE- LAS VEGAS- DEATH VALLEY- BODIE- MONO LAKE- YOSEMITE-SAN FRANCISCO : le temps qu'il nous restera avant le retouren tout 3900 km !
Ce circuit est-il fantaisiste ou faisable ? avez-vous une idée des dates auxquelles nous serons à tel ou tel endroit ?
Merci pour tous les renseignements, conseils etc ... qui nous seront très précieux car Anglais scolaire oublié (nous sommes un couple de 62 ans chacun hélas pas pour les deux 😏) mais ordinateur portable pour réservation hôtel d'un jour à l'autre.
avez-vous une idée des dates auxquelles nous serons à tel ou tel endroit ?
C'est marrant comme question 😎 Ca va un peu dépendre de vous quand même 😛
Sinon, c'est logique. Sur 3 semaines, je pense même qu'on peut se rajouter Moab ( Arches + Canyonlands ) sans trop se faire de mal à priori avec GC - Page - Mv - Moab - Bryce etc ....
Bon Bagdad Café, y'a que les européens que ça fait fantasmer, les américains connaissent pas du tout le film et il ne reste rien des décors du film comme la citerne, etc .... Juste le restau à priori mais le détour est inutile à mon avis. Autant garder les belles images en tête 😛
C'est marrant comme question 😎 Ca va un peu dépendre de vous quand même 😛
Sinon, c'est logique. Sur 3 semaines, je pense même qu'on peut se rajouter Moab ( Arches + Canyonlands ) sans trop se faire de mal à priori avec GC - Page - Mv - Moab - Bryce etc ....
Bon Bagdad Café, y'a que les européens que ça fait fantasmer, les américains connaissent pas du tout le film et il ne reste rien des décors du film comme la citerne, etc .... Juste le restau à priori mais le détour est inutile à mon avis. Autant garder les belles images en tête 😛
Tous mes voyages sur : http://www.vazyvite.com/
" Psychologiquement instable donc je ne réponds de rien" : Sa Maman
" Psychologiquement instable donc je ne réponds de rien" : Sa Maman
bonjour
nous allons peut-être nous croiser 🙂 mon mari et moi partons le 15/09 à S.F . et ferons un tour moins long, à moins d'endroits mais plus longtemps sur place. Nous allons faire le Yosemite, le Sequoia, Grand Canyon, Zion, Bryce, Death Valley et Las Vegas. Nous ne verrons peut-être pas tout ce que l'on voudrait mais bon, qui sait à l'avenir... ?
habitant la Belgique, je suis passée par "connection.be" pour la réservation voiture + certains hotels + avion
par contre, à Las Vegas et San Fransisco, je suis passée par "booking.com"; les prix y sont intéressants. On m'a cependant prévenue que les petits déjeuners, il vaut mieux généralement les prendre à l'extérieur des hotels - pour les habitués du pays, pouvez-vous le confirmer ?
Pour les hôtels, évidemment ça dépend aussi de ton budget, mais parmi les villes dans lesquelles tu vas passer je peux te conseiller :
- Grand Canyon : le holiday Inn Express qui se situe à Tusayan (eux disent Grand Canyon Village South mais c'est en réalité en dehors du parc, bien que pas trop loin)
- Monument Valley : le Hampton Inn de Kayenta (vraiment bien, même si Kayenta n'a aucun intérêt mis à part de ne pas être trop loin de Monument valley)
- Page : le Page Boy Motel (un petit motel sans prétention mais propre, calme et les personnes qui le gèrent sont très sympas)
- Las vegas : j'étais au Luxor et j'étais un peu déçu même si ça reste un très bel hôtel (un peu défraichit et assez loin des autres hôtels) donc si tu peux (question de prix) je te conseillerais le Bellagio, le Ceasar's Palace ou le Venitian (qui ont l'air d'être de vrais palaces)
- Yosemite : le Groveland hotel (à Groveland donc) : accueil très agréable, chambre à la déco marrante, un peu petite (pour les USA) mais propre et confortable. Seul bémol : le bâtiment doit être un peu ancien donc l'isolation entre les chambres n'est pas optimale
- San Francisco : le fusion hotel (sur Ellis Street) en plein dans Union Square : emplacement vraiment idéal, propre, bien tenu, relativement calme ("relativement" car notre chambre donnait sur les conduits d'aération dehors et ça faisait un peu de bruit)
On voyage pour changer, non de lieu, mais d'idées.
(Hippolyte Taine)
On m'a cependant prévenue que les petits déjeuners, il vaut mieux généralement les prendre à l'extérieur des hotels - pour les habitués du pays, pouvez-vous le confirmer ?
Ca dépend des hôtels en fait et du lieu. A Vegas, autant en tester plusieurs si on reste + d'1 nuit. A SF, autant aller dans le quartier pas trop loin pour faire typique plutôt qu'un buffet banal. Dans les parcs, selon l'endroit il y a peut-être des trucs sympa selon votre localisation, faut repérer avant et ça dépend aussi de la catégorie de l'hôtel . En tout cas, faut tester un vrai petit-déj américain dans un restaurant et varier les plaisirs 😎
Ca dépend des hôtels en fait et du lieu. A Vegas, autant en tester plusieurs si on reste + d'1 nuit. A SF, autant aller dans le quartier pas trop loin pour faire typique plutôt qu'un buffet banal. Dans les parcs, selon l'endroit il y a peut-être des trucs sympa selon votre localisation, faut repérer avant et ça dépend aussi de la catégorie de l'hôtel . En tout cas, faut tester un vrai petit-déj américain dans un restaurant et varier les plaisirs 😎
Tous mes voyages sur : http://www.vazyvite.com/
" Psychologiquement instable donc je ne réponds de rien" : Sa Maman
" Psychologiquement instable donc je ne réponds de rien" : Sa Maman
avez-vous une idée des dates auxquelles nous serons à tel ou tel endroit ?
C'est marrant comme question 😎 Ca va un peu dépendre de vous quand même 😛
d'accord question mal formulée 😛; je voulais dire que je n'arrive pas à me rendre compte du temps qu'il faut pour visiter certains sites .... je pense que tu vas me répondre que cela dépend de nous-mêmes 😏 merci de ta réponse rapide et surtout des conseils pour Moab Arches et Canyonlands
d'accord question mal formulée 😛; je voulais dire que je n'arrive pas à me rendre compte du temps qu'il faut pour visiter certains sites .... je pense que tu vas me répondre que cela dépend de nous-mêmes 😏 merci de ta réponse rapide et surtout des conseils pour Moab Arches et Canyonlands
Va voir www.ouestusa.fr
Sur chaque site il y a le temps conseillé!
Sur chaque site il y a le temps conseillé!
prévoit de faire un minimum de randos pour profiter des parcs. Selon ta forme plus ou moins longue y en a pour tout les gouts la plupart du temps.
Pourquoi ne pas sacrifier Sequoia et démarrer par Yosemite ? ca permettrait de pousser plus à l est et de faire la region de Moab en +.
Pourquoi ne pas sacrifier Sequoia et démarrer par Yosemite ? ca permettrait de pousser plus à l est et de faire la region de Moab en +.
Bonjour
pour ma part, je fais le Huntington à SF (2 nuits) et le Luxury à LV
j'espère que ces choix sont bons mais de toute façon, c'est la découverte des villes et ses particularités qui m'excite et non pas le lit dans lequel je vais dormir (quoique😏 )
les autres, ce sont les petits hotels classiques aux portes des parcs (du moins, je crois... ) tels que Best Western, Stovepipewells, ...
sûr que je veux tester les plaisirs de la (mal)bouffe ! d'ailleurs, je prépare déjà mon corps à 15 jours de rugissements de plaisir....😉
super ce site ; merci beaucoup
Bonjour marypel,
Tu as aussi celui-ci hyper complet avec les temps de visite également.
http://www.roadtrippin.fr/fr/usa/listesites.php
Jérôme
Tu as aussi celui-ci hyper complet avec les temps de visite également.
http://www.roadtrippin.fr/fr/usa/listesites.php
Jérôme
Notre carnet 'I have a dream'
http://cj.p.free.fr/USA/USA_Accueil.html
Proverbe marseillais : Si l'envie te prend de travailler.... assieds-toi et attends que ça passe !!!
Proverbe marseillais : Si l'envie te prend de travailler.... assieds-toi et attends que ça passe !!!
merci à tous ceux qui ont pris le temps de me répondre soit par message privé soit par message public ; de ce fait, je passe ma journée sur l'ordi. à parcourir les sites, j'imprime et surtout je rêve.... "I have a dream"😎
notre programme pour 3 semaines du 8 septembre au 1er octobre 2009 moi et ma fiancée ...
arriver a San Fransisco
yosemite ensuite route vers yellowstone petite virée dans le montana tout proche direction moab monument valley grand canyon bryce canyon las vegas death valley los angeles et retour vers San Fransisco airport
voiture de location deja reservé chez alamo 500eu pour les 3semaines assurance gold
les 2 premieres nuits d'hotel deja reservé a san fransisco sur geary street
le reste on verra sur place au jour le jour , on enmene avec nous :materiel de camping tente, sac de couchage matelas autogonflant, le tout pour 300euros
bref l'aventure , experience tres reussi en europe , 3 semaine en espagne , 2 semaine en italie -croatie -slovenie sans rien reservé ,
voila ... maintenant il ne reste plus qu'a attendre !!!
arriver a San Fransisco
yosemite ensuite route vers yellowstone petite virée dans le montana tout proche direction moab monument valley grand canyon bryce canyon las vegas death valley los angeles et retour vers San Fransisco airport
voiture de location deja reservé chez alamo 500eu pour les 3semaines assurance gold
les 2 premieres nuits d'hotel deja reservé a san fransisco sur geary street
le reste on verra sur place au jour le jour , on enmene avec nous :materiel de camping tente, sac de couchage matelas autogonflant, le tout pour 300euros
bref l'aventure , experience tres reussi en europe , 3 semaine en espagne , 2 semaine en italie -croatie -slovenie sans rien reservé ,
voila ... maintenant il ne reste plus qu'a attendre !!!
Wahouwwwww, tout ça en trois semaines ?????
Respect ! 🙂
Et ça me rassure quant à la faisabilité du mien 😉
Notre carnet 'I have a dream'
http://cj.p.free.fr/USA/USA_Accueil.html
Proverbe marseillais : Si l'envie te prend de travailler.... assieds-toi et attends que ça passe !!!
Proverbe marseillais : Si l'envie te prend de travailler.... assieds-toi et attends que ça passe !!!
Euh.... 3 semaines pour tout ça? 😕 Comment tu vas faire? Tu es sûr de la faisabilité de ton circuit? Tu as regardé une carte? 🤪
C'est tout à fait faisable. Il faut aimer conduire et une voiture confortable. Pour le reste...
Et les visites, elles se font quand dans tout ça?
Les visites? Au gré des envies...
Et que fais-tu de l'aventure humaine? Des rencontres? Pour certains "voyager" ce n'est pas seulement "visiter"...
Et que fais-tu de l'aventure humaine? Des rencontres? Pour certains "voyager" ce n'est pas seulement "visiter"...
Les visites? Au gré des envies...
Et que fais-tu de l'aventure humaine? Des rencontres? Pour certains "voyager" ce n'est pas seulement "visiter"...
S'il fait tout ça en 3 semaines, à mon avis l'aventure se fera dans la voiture... Les rencontres je ne sais pas quand est ce qu'il pourra les faire... Avec le rangers aux péages des parcs nationaux 😛 sans sortir de la voiture!
Enfin bon chacun son plaisir! Bonnes vacances
Et que fais-tu de l'aventure humaine? Des rencontres? Pour certains "voyager" ce n'est pas seulement "visiter"...
S'il fait tout ça en 3 semaines, à mon avis l'aventure se fera dans la voiture... Les rencontres je ne sais pas quand est ce qu'il pourra les faire... Avec le rangers aux péages des parcs nationaux 😛 sans sortir de la voiture!
Enfin bon chacun son plaisir! Bonnes vacances
bonjour , en fait mon circuit tourne autour de 6500kms au total c'est que comme ca, ca fait beaucoup mais ca ne fait que 325kms par jours , sur 20jours etant donné que je prends ma voiture 2jours apres mon arrivée au centre ville chez alamo,
4 heures de voiture , 2h matin et2h lapres midi , le reste du temps etant consacré au visite , au repas... ca me semble resonnable , de toute facon je verrais au jour le jour , notre objectif etant de visiter le yellowstone absolument !!
il ya 2 ans en allant en croatie j'ai fait 3800kms en 15 jours , et ca tres bien ete on a eu le temps de voir pas mal de choses , des bonnes demi journée de visite sans voiture ,
donc je le redi on verra au jour le jour ,
j'ai hate d'y etre !!sinon pour la voiture et la circulation ca va je ne stress pas !! (j'ai jamais conduit au states) mais bon on verra une fois au volant.
bye ..
4 heures de voiture , 2h matin et2h lapres midi , le reste du temps etant consacré au visite , au repas... ca me semble resonnable , de toute facon je verrais au jour le jour , notre objectif etant de visiter le yellowstone absolument !!
il ya 2 ans en allant en croatie j'ai fait 3800kms en 15 jours , et ca tres bien ete on a eu le temps de voir pas mal de choses , des bonnes demi journée de visite sans voiture ,
donc je le redi on verra au jour le jour ,
j'ai hate d'y etre !!sinon pour la voiture et la circulation ca va je ne stress pas !! (j'ai jamais conduit au states) mais bon on verra une fois au volant.
bye ..
Attention il faut savoir que les parcs sont grands, donc pour aller d'un point de vue à un autre, les distances peuvent être importantes. Dans Yellowstone tu vas faire beaucoup de route aussi donc au final je suis prêt à mettre ma main à couper que tu feras bien plus que les 6500kms que tu as prévus 😉
Bonnes vacances
A Yellowstone, encore plus avec la fermeture du tronçon Norris - Madison... 😠
Notre carnet 'I have a dream'
http://cj.p.free.fr/USA/USA_Accueil.html
Proverbe marseillais : Si l'envie te prend de travailler.... assieds-toi et attends que ça passe !!!
Proverbe marseillais : Si l'envie te prend de travailler.... assieds-toi et attends que ça passe !!!
Je suis un peu de l'avis des autres: tu vas devoir courir.
Pour te donner une idée, nous avons fait le même parcours que toi SANS Yellowstone ((que j'aurais aussi voulu voir!! mais que raisonnablement nous avons zappé!!).
San Francisco – Côte Pacifique – Los Angeles – Grand Canyon – Page – Monument Valley – Moab – Torrey – Bryce – Zion – Las Vegas – Death Valley – Yosemite – San Francisco
Et nous avons parcouru plus de 7000 Kms (sur papier, il était programmé 5500Kms! mais en réalité, tu en fais toujours bien plus!)
Tout ça sur 25 jours!! Et les journées commençaient tôt et finissaient tard!
Et n'oublie pas que tes journées en septembre seront plus courtes que les miennes en juin-juillet;
Pour te donner une idée, nous avons fait le même parcours que toi SANS Yellowstone ((que j'aurais aussi voulu voir!! mais que raisonnablement nous avons zappé!!).
San Francisco – Côte Pacifique – Los Angeles – Grand Canyon – Page – Monument Valley – Moab – Torrey – Bryce – Zion – Las Vegas – Death Valley – Yosemite – San Francisco
Et nous avons parcouru plus de 7000 Kms (sur papier, il était programmé 5500Kms! mais en réalité, tu en fais toujours bien plus!)
Tout ça sur 25 jours!! Et les journées commençaient tôt et finissaient tard!
Et n'oublie pas que tes journées en septembre seront plus courtes que les miennes en juin-juillet;
Ouest USA 2009 https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=2800143#2800143
5ème trip USA, 09/2013 https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=6186946#6186946
petite demande de renseignement supplémentaire mais qui a son importance tout de même 😏
où trouve-t-on les meilleurs hamburgers dans l'ouest américain ?
merci !
On en trouve à peu près partout sauf dans tout ce qui ressemble de près ou de loin à Mc Do , Burger Ling et compagnie
Patrick
Patrick
On ne vit qu'une fois !
Mes USA 1998 2000 ... : http://sites.google.com/site/heavencanwaitno/
USA 2008 : http://sites.google.com/site/heavencanwaitno/home/usa-2008
USA 2011 : http://sites.google.com/site/heavencanwaitno/home/usa-2011
Il n'y a pas que des hamburgers à goûter dans l'Ouest, marypel; tu seras surprise par la variété!
Bon voyage aux Zétazunis, bon séjour dans l'Ouest, ramène-nous tes impressions et des photos!
chi va piano va sano
Suis dans les valises enfin pas moi :les zaffaires pour les zétats zunis
demain Roissy et après-demain direction S.F. et les grands parcs : le premier prévu est SEQUOIA.
See you soon. pendant les heures de vol, il faut que je révise mon Anglais scolaire 😕
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I had planned a trip to Colorado in 2021 but canceled due to COVID, so with time passing and my eldest’s high school graduation approaching fast, I figured it was now or never!
Anyway, the itinerary has been modified and extended to please everyone (I’m no longer the only one making decisions!!)
Here’s our final route: Day 1 - 7/12/2026 - Brussels / Los Angeles Day 2 - 7/13/2026 - Los Angeles Day 3 - 7/14/2026 - Los Angeles Day 4 - 7/15/2026 - Los Angeles Day 5 - 7/16/2026 - Los Angeles Day 6 - 7/17/2026 - Los Angeles / Kingman Day 7 - 7/18/2026 - Kingman / Grand Canyon Day 8 - 7/19/2026 - Grand Canyon / Page Day 9 - 7/20/2026 - Page Day 10 - 7/21/2026 - Page / Monument Valley Day 11 - 7/22/2026 - Monument Valley / Durango Day 12 - 7/23/2026 - Durango Day 13 - 7/24/2026 - Durango Day 14 - 7/25/2026 - Durango Day 15 - 7/26/2026 - Durango / Glenwood Springs Day 16 - 7/27/2026 - Glenwood Springs Day 17 - 7/28/2026 - Glenwood Springs / Moab Day 18 - 7/29/2026 - Moab Day 19 - 7/30/2026 - Moab Day 20 - 7/31/2026 - Moab Day 21 - 8/1/2026 - Moab Day 22 - 8/2/2026 - Moab / Vernal Day 23 - 8/3/2026 - Vernal / Grand Teton Day 24 - 8/4/2026 - Grand Teton Day 25 - 8/5/2026 - Grand Teton / Cody Day 26 - 8/6/2026 - Cody / Yellowstone Day 27 - 8/7/2026 - Yellowstone Day 28 - 8/8/2026 - Yellowstone Day 29 - 8/9/2026 - Yellowstone Day 30 - 8/10/2026 - Yellowstone / Salt Lake City Day 31 - 8/11/2026 - Salt Lake City / Bryce Canyon Day 32 - 8/12/2026 - Bryce Canyon / Zion Day 33 - 8/13/2026 - Zion Day 34 - 8/14/2026 - Zion Day 35 - 8/15/2026 - Zion / Las Vegas Day 36 - 8/16/2026 - Las Vegas Day 37 - 8/17/2026 - Las Vegas / Los Angeles Day 38 - 8/18/2026 - Los Angeles Day 39 - 8/19/2026 - Los Angeles / Brussels Day 40 - 8/20/2026 - Brussels / Home
We’ll be alternating between house swaps, motels, and campgrounds. I’ve booked all the accommodations (except the campground at Bryce since sunset bookings open only 14 days in advance) and the first activities, as well as the most touristy ones.
I’m currently putting together my day-by-day roadbook and having some trouble planning certain days, like in LA or Las Vegas. Choosing hikes isn’t easy either—it’s tough to decide!
We’re really excited but could definitely use your help with choices and optimizations!!
I had planned a trip to Colorado in 2021 but canceled due to COVID, so with time passing and my eldest’s high school graduation approaching fast, I figured it was now or never!
Anyway, the itinerary has been modified and extended to please everyone (I’m no longer the only one making decisions!!)
Here’s our final route: Day 1 - 7/12/2026 - Brussels / Los Angeles Day 2 - 7/13/2026 - Los Angeles Day 3 - 7/14/2026 - Los Angeles Day 4 - 7/15/2026 - Los Angeles Day 5 - 7/16/2026 - Los Angeles Day 6 - 7/17/2026 - Los Angeles / Kingman Day 7 - 7/18/2026 - Kingman / Grand Canyon Day 8 - 7/19/2026 - Grand Canyon / Page Day 9 - 7/20/2026 - Page Day 10 - 7/21/2026 - Page / Monument Valley Day 11 - 7/22/2026 - Monument Valley / Durango Day 12 - 7/23/2026 - Durango Day 13 - 7/24/2026 - Durango Day 14 - 7/25/2026 - Durango Day 15 - 7/26/2026 - Durango / Glenwood Springs Day 16 - 7/27/2026 - Glenwood Springs Day 17 - 7/28/2026 - Glenwood Springs / Moab Day 18 - 7/29/2026 - Moab Day 19 - 7/30/2026 - Moab Day 20 - 7/31/2026 - Moab Day 21 - 8/1/2026 - Moab Day 22 - 8/2/2026 - Moab / Vernal Day 23 - 8/3/2026 - Vernal / Grand Teton Day 24 - 8/4/2026 - Grand Teton Day 25 - 8/5/2026 - Grand Teton / Cody Day 26 - 8/6/2026 - Cody / Yellowstone Day 27 - 8/7/2026 - Yellowstone Day 28 - 8/8/2026 - Yellowstone Day 29 - 8/9/2026 - Yellowstone Day 30 - 8/10/2026 - Yellowstone / Salt Lake City Day 31 - 8/11/2026 - Salt Lake City / Bryce Canyon Day 32 - 8/12/2026 - Bryce Canyon / Zion Day 33 - 8/13/2026 - Zion Day 34 - 8/14/2026 - Zion Day 35 - 8/15/2026 - Zion / Las Vegas Day 36 - 8/16/2026 - Las Vegas Day 37 - 8/17/2026 - Las Vegas / Los Angeles Day 38 - 8/18/2026 - Los Angeles Day 39 - 8/19/2026 - Los Angeles / Brussels Day 40 - 8/20/2026 - Brussels / Home
We’ll be alternating between house swaps, motels, and campgrounds. I’ve booked all the accommodations (except the campground at Bryce since sunset bookings open only 14 days in advance) and the first activities, as well as the most touristy ones.
I’m currently putting together my day-by-day roadbook and having some trouble planning certain days, like in LA or Las Vegas. Choosing hikes isn’t easy either—it’s tough to decide!
We’re really excited but could definitely use your help with choices and optimizations!!
Hello.
I’d like to travel along I-15N from San Diego to Las Vegas with my mom, who’s 67. We’ve explored Northern California and the California Coast over the past two years and now want to continue through the desert.
There are several attractions along the way: - Mormon Rocks - Desert Discovery Center and visit the Old Woman meteorite - Joshua Tree National Park - Mojave Desert - Mojave National Preserve - Anza-Borrego Desert State Park - Silverwood Lake
My mom has back issues that prevent her from hiking or walking on trails with elevation changes. Is it possible to visit these places by car, or are the routes flat enough?
I’d love for her to experience the desert with an itinerary adapted to her condition. I’m also open to other points of interest that aren’t mentioned. We have 3-4 days for the trip, so we’re not in a rush—just want to explore.
Thanks so much. The trip would be in fall 2026
There are several attractions along the way: - Mormon Rocks - Desert Discovery Center and visit the Old Woman meteorite - Joshua Tree National Park - Mojave Desert - Mojave National Preserve - Anza-Borrego Desert State Park - Silverwood Lake
My mom has back issues that prevent her from hiking or walking on trails with elevation changes. Is it possible to visit these places by car, or are the routes flat enough?
I’d love for her to experience the desert with an itinerary adapted to her condition. I’m also open to other points of interest that aren’t mentioned. We have 3-4 days for the trip, so we’re not in a rush—just want to explore.
Thanks so much. The trip would be in fall 2026
Hi there,
I’d love to take a road trip and visit Nova Scotia. I’d appreciate some info on the best cities to see and the most interesting spots. The trip should last about 10 to 15 days, staying in hotels or motels. Thanks in advance!
I’d love to take a road trip and visit Nova Scotia. I’d appreciate some info on the best cities to see and the most interesting spots. The trip should last about 10 to 15 days, staying in hotels or motels. Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
Quick question—I’m heading to New York soon and I’d love to know if you guys have any recommendations for websites where I can buy concert tickets?
Quick question—I’m heading to New York soon and I’d love to know if you guys have any recommendations for websites where I can buy concert tickets?
Hi there,
We’re being relocated to Saint Pierre and Miquelon. We’ll be taking the flight from Nantes to Montreal and then from Montreal to Saint Pierre. Could you recommend a hotel near the departure terminal that allows dogs?
Thanks!
We’re being relocated to Saint Pierre and Miquelon. We’ll be taking the flight from Nantes to Montreal and then from Montreal to Saint Pierre. Could you recommend a hotel near the departure terminal that allows dogs?
Thanks!
Hi,
My 16-year-old son is flying to Grand Rapids with other kids his age. There’s a layover in Detroit. There’s no unaccompanied minor service available. Is it pretty easy to navigate Detroit Airport to catch the connecting flight to Grand Rapids (domestic flight)? There are several of them who speak English well.
Thanks for your replies,
Good evening, everyone! 🙂
Just a few last questions to wrap up our Lake Tahoe visit plans.
**Parking:** We’d like to walk to Eagle Falls and then Eagle Lake. I’ve spotted two parking lots that seem close to each other and give access to the trailhead. Where and how do we pay for entry to Emerald Bay State Park and Inspiration Point?
**Viewpoints on the East Side:** Are most of the viewpoints (Balancing Rock, Granite Cave, Bonsai Rock, etc.) right by the road, or do you have to hike to reach them?
**Donner Memorial State Park:** Is it worth making a detour to Truckee to visit this park and the Truckee historic downtown?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
**Parking:** We’d like to walk to Eagle Falls and then Eagle Lake. I’ve spotted two parking lots that seem close to each other and give access to the trailhead. Where and how do we pay for entry to Emerald Bay State Park and Inspiration Point?
**Viewpoints on the East Side:** Are most of the viewpoints (Balancing Rock, Granite Cave, Bonsai Rock, etc.) right by the road, or do you have to hike to reach them?
**Donner Memorial State Park:** Is it worth making a detour to Truckee to visit this park and the Truckee historic downtown?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
Hi there. I'm shocked by the price of the Upper Antelope Canyon tour—$175 for less than an hour… You might say, "if you can’t afford it…" But the real question is whether it’s really worth it, because $350 for two makes me feel like I’m getting ripped off. For those who’ve done both Lower and Upper, can you tell me if the price difference is really justified? Thanks
Hi everyone! 🙂
As you can see, we're heading back from September 6th to the 27th.
Everything’s booked for September—flights, accommodations, and the car. As I plan, I’ll be asking the experts for help. This is our second trip to California, but most of the stops are new to us.
We’ll start directly from San Francisco to our first overnight stop, Davis, before heading to Lassen Volcanic Park for 4 nights. Our flight lands at 12:50 PM.
Here’s our itinerary: Day 1: Davis – overnight stop Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen) Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes) Day 6: South Lake Tahoe Day 7: South Lake Tahoe Day 8: Mammoth Lake Day 9: Mammoth Lake Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road Day 11: El Portal Day 12: El Portal Day 13: Oakhurst Day 14: Miramonte Day 15: Three Rivers Day 16: Three Rivers Day 17: Coalinga Day 18: Monterey Day 19: Monterey Day 20: San Francisco Day 21: San Francisco Day 22: Departure
For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned: Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2) Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3) Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4) Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)
I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV? Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?
That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening! Marcalamar 🙂
Here’s our itinerary: Day 1: Davis – overnight stop Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen) Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes) Day 6: South Lake Tahoe Day 7: South Lake Tahoe Day 8: Mammoth Lake Day 9: Mammoth Lake Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road Day 11: El Portal Day 12: El Portal Day 13: Oakhurst Day 14: Miramonte Day 15: Three Rivers Day 16: Three Rivers Day 17: Coalinga Day 18: Monterey Day 19: Monterey Day 20: San Francisco Day 21: San Francisco Day 22: Departure
For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned: Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2) Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3) Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4) Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)
I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV? Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?
That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening! Marcalamar 🙂
Here's a tip for future visitors!
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/3-national-parks-slash-red-tape-americans-boldly-transforming-visitor-entry
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/3-national-parks-slash-red-tape-americans-boldly-transforming-visitor-entry
Hi everyone,
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast. I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October. My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips. I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks to everyone for your advice and help.
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast. I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October. My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips. I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks to everyone for your advice and help.
Thanks for advising me on the booking—should I reserve a room in the hotel or go for a cabin for the best view?
Should I get breakfast or not?
What do you think of the restaurant?
Hello, if the off-the-beaten-path enthusiasts are still around 😉, I’d love some info on tackling these trails. I’m not super familiar with the rules, risks, or what to expect—I’m looking for firsthand experience from folks who’ve done it on their own once or multiple times.
Hi everyone!
I’m planning a week-long family trip to NYC in October 2026. The focus is on museums and soaking up the New York vibe. I’ve been checking Airbnb, but the prices in Manhattan are through the roof. Since I don’t know NYC well, is it "wise" to look outside Manhattan? Any neighborhoods you’d recommend?
Hello,
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas) T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC) W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV) F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Christophe
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas) T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC) W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV) F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Christophe
Hi North America forum crew,
Just a little post that might interest some of you:
Travelers to the United States | Photo Now Mandatory Upon Entry and Exit | La Presse
Hi everyone.
I assume many of you already know, but the America the Beautiful annual pass, which was $80, will increase to $250 starting January 1, 2026.
So if you're planning to travel before the end of December 2026, it's in your best interest to buy your pass in December 2025, since it will still cost $80 and be valid until the end of December 2026 if you purchase it in December 2025.
This price increase only applies to non-U.S. residents.
Additionally, for those who planned to visit just one park, a $100 surcharge per person will apply to access a list of 11 national parks... For example, if there are 4 of you in a car, you’ll have to pay $35 + $400, which comes to $435 to visit one of the 11 parks on the list (I don’t have all of them... Bryce, Zion, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.). Total madness.
The goal is to push people who only visit one park into buying the annual pass.
Last point: free entry days are over for non-residents!
That’s all for now.
I assume many of you already know, but the America the Beautiful annual pass, which was $80, will increase to $250 starting January 1, 2026.
So if you're planning to travel before the end of December 2026, it's in your best interest to buy your pass in December 2025, since it will still cost $80 and be valid until the end of December 2026 if you purchase it in December 2025.
This price increase only applies to non-U.S. residents.
Additionally, for those who planned to visit just one park, a $100 surcharge per person will apply to access a list of 11 national parks... For example, if there are 4 of you in a car, you’ll have to pay $35 + $400, which comes to $435 to visit one of the 11 parks on the list (I don’t have all of them... Bryce, Zion, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.). Total madness.
The goal is to push people who only visit one park into buying the annual pass.
Last point: free entry days are over for non-residents!
That’s all for now.
Hi everyone, I’m traveling to Los Angeles and would like to rent a vehicle at the airport. However, I have a Boursobank Ultim deferred debit card, so I’d love to know if it’s possible for those who’ve experienced this recently. Thanks for the info!
Hi VF community,
I’m planning a week in S.F. in April 2026 and I can’t figure out how to tell the cable cars—of which I understand there are three lines—apart from the trams, which I think number seven. I can’t find their individual numbers or routes anywhere.
Could someone shed some light on this for me? Thanks in advance.
Wishing you all a Merry Christmas and a wonderful 2026 full of amazing travels. Cheers, Régine
I’m planning a week in S.F. in April 2026 and I can’t figure out how to tell the cable cars—of which I understand there are three lines—apart from the trams, which I think number seven. I can’t find their individual numbers or routes anywhere.
Could someone shed some light on this for me? Thanks in advance.
Wishing you all a Merry Christmas and a wonderful 2026 full of amazing travels. Cheers, Régine
Hi,
I’m planning a road trip through the American national parks starting from Denver in June 2026.
The price of the pass is jumping from 80 € to 250 € on January 1st, 2026!!!
Is it possible to buy the pass online before the end of the year to lock in the 80 € rate? If so, where and how do I go about it?
Thanks for your tips.
Arnale
Hi there,
I’m planning a road trip for July 2026 in northern Florida. Could you let me know if my itinerary makes sense? Day 1: Orlando Day 2: Amelia Island Day 3: Amelia Island Day 4: Tallahassee Day 5: Panama City Beach Day 6: Panama City Beach (visit to Destin) Day 7: Crystal River (stop in Cedar Key on the way) Day 8: Crystal River Day 9: Anna Maria (stop in Clearwater) Day 10: Anna Maria (St. Pete) Day 11: Anna Maria Day 12: Orlando Day 13: Orlando Day 14: Orlando Day 15: Departure
Thanks in advance for your tips!
I’m planning a road trip for July 2026 in northern Florida. Could you let me know if my itinerary makes sense? Day 1: Orlando Day 2: Amelia Island Day 3: Amelia Island Day 4: Tallahassee Day 5: Panama City Beach Day 6: Panama City Beach (visit to Destin) Day 7: Crystal River (stop in Cedar Key on the way) Day 8: Crystal River Day 9: Anna Maria (stop in Clearwater) Day 10: Anna Maria (St. Pete) Day 11: Anna Maria Day 12: Orlando Day 13: Orlando Day 14: Orlando Day 15: Departure
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Hey everyone!
We just finished 9 days in the American West and wanted to share our experience because we had an amazing time.
I know some of you might ask, why use an agency? Honestly, we didn’t really feel like doing all the driving and planning, especially since we didn’t know the area at all. And since our English isn’t great, having French-speaking guides was a big comfort.
We found Emmanuelle and Isabelle, and wow, they were fantastic. It was just the two of us with them, so it was a truly VIP, ultra-personalized experience. They treated us like royalty from start to finish. These two live in Las Vegas and know the region like the back of their hand. They told us they’ve spent over 15 years exploring every corner of the American West, and it really shows. Their knowledge of geology, park history, and local anecdotes is just impressive. It’s nothing like someone reciting a memorized script. They answer all your questions and really adapt to what you want to see or do.
What we really loved: the vehicle was super comfortable, and the little details made a difference—like snacks and even a homemade cake! Though, to be fair, we devoured the cake right away, so that counts.
Since they know the sites inside out, they took us at the right times to avoid crowds. So we could enjoy peaceful picnics at Grand Canyon viewpoints without being packed in with 200 people. Plus, on top of the must-see spots, they showed us some hidden gems that were absolutely stunning—places we never would’ve found on our own. They’re true locals who know all the best tips.
The service was really personalized. They adapted to our pace and preferences, and we could stop whenever we wanted to take photos. It’s the luxury of being in a small private group—you’re not just a number on a big bus. In short, we really felt like we were traveling with friends rather than professional guides. Everything’s included in the price (hotel pickup, meals, park entries, etc.), so the value for money is fair.
We loved it so much that we’re already planning to come back next year to explore other areas with them. I think we’ve caught the American West bug—it’s all we can think about, and we can’t wait to return.
If you’re looking for a French-speaking tour with real personalized service and guides who know the region like no one else, we highly recommend them. We had unforgettable moments. They also design road trips for those who don’t want a guide. And they handled our hotel reservations in Las Vegas too. If you want genuine advice from friendly locals, we’re giving them a 200% recommendation!
We just finished 9 days in the American West and wanted to share our experience because we had an amazing time.
I know some of you might ask, why use an agency? Honestly, we didn’t really feel like doing all the driving and planning, especially since we didn’t know the area at all. And since our English isn’t great, having French-speaking guides was a big comfort.
We found Emmanuelle and Isabelle, and wow, they were fantastic. It was just the two of us with them, so it was a truly VIP, ultra-personalized experience. They treated us like royalty from start to finish. These two live in Las Vegas and know the region like the back of their hand. They told us they’ve spent over 15 years exploring every corner of the American West, and it really shows. Their knowledge of geology, park history, and local anecdotes is just impressive. It’s nothing like someone reciting a memorized script. They answer all your questions and really adapt to what you want to see or do.
What we really loved: the vehicle was super comfortable, and the little details made a difference—like snacks and even a homemade cake! Though, to be fair, we devoured the cake right away, so that counts.
Since they know the sites inside out, they took us at the right times to avoid crowds. So we could enjoy peaceful picnics at Grand Canyon viewpoints without being packed in with 200 people. Plus, on top of the must-see spots, they showed us some hidden gems that were absolutely stunning—places we never would’ve found on our own. They’re true locals who know all the best tips.
The service was really personalized. They adapted to our pace and preferences, and we could stop whenever we wanted to take photos. It’s the luxury of being in a small private group—you’re not just a number on a big bus. In short, we really felt like we were traveling with friends rather than professional guides. Everything’s included in the price (hotel pickup, meals, park entries, etc.), so the value for money is fair.
We loved it so much that we’re already planning to come back next year to explore other areas with them. I think we’ve caught the American West bug—it’s all we can think about, and we can’t wait to return.
If you’re looking for a French-speaking tour with real personalized service and guides who know the region like no one else, we highly recommend them. We had unforgettable moments. They also design road trips for those who don’t want a guide. And they handled our hotel reservations in Las Vegas too. If you want genuine advice from friendly locals, we’re giving them a 200% recommendation!







