Trois semaines au Nouveau-Mexique en avril
by EricMoorea
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour à tous,
plus habitué à donner qq conseils sur ce forum sur l'endroit où j'habite (Polynésie), je viens à mon tour à la pêche aux infos en tout genre (loc. voiture, hôtels, ...). Après plusieurs séjours en Californie, Nevada, Arizona, je programme un séjour au Nouveau Mexique de 3 semaines en Avril. J'aimerai donc avoir vos avis sur les "incontournables" de l'Etat, les choses à voir ou à faire absolument même si ça demande de faire qq bornes de plus, ... Enfin bref, tout ce que vous avez adoré ... ou détesté !
Je me demande si 3 semaines ce n'est pas un peu trop et si une incursion au Texas se justifie.
Je suis preneur aussi de toutes les infos sur le climat à cette période (rien de tel que le "vécu" plutôt qu'un graphique de moyennes menuselles dans un guide...)
Merci d'avance pour vos conseils et vos expériences.
A +
Eric
En faisant une petite recherche sur le forum, tu trouveras quelques sujets sur le Nouveau Mexique et quelques uns sur le Texas.
Je n'y suis pas encore allée mais j'ai fait pas mal de recherche sur Internet et j'ai consulté quelques guides de voyages pour préparer mon itinéraire pour cet été.
Donc d'après ce que j'ai retenu : White Sands (entre Las Cruces et Alamogordo), Albuquerque, Santa Fe, Turquoise Trail, Taos, Taos Pueblo, Los Alamos, Bandelier Park, Rocks Tent, Gallup (du 6 au 10 août 2008 a lieu l'Indian intertribal festival), les Pueblo (Taos, Acoma par exemple), etc.
Tu peux consulter le fabuleux site de Thierry http://www.ouestusa.fr/NM-acceuil.htm dont la partie Nouveau Mexique a été mise à jour récemment.
Je m'avance peut être un peu mais 3 semaines juste pour le Nouveau Mexique, cela me semble beaucoup sauf si vous randonnez dans les parcs, visitez tous les musées, etc. Mais attends l'avis d'autres personnes, ce sera plus prudent !
Et puis comme tu y vas en avril et moi (mais d'autres aussi) en août, n'hesite pas à nous faire un petit compte rendu à ton retour pour que l'on puisse bénéficier de tes conseils 😉 !
Tu peux consulter le fabuleux site de Thierry http://www.ouestusa.fr/NM-acceuil.htm dont la partie Nouveau Mexique a été mise à jour récemment.
Je m'avance peut être un peu mais 3 semaines juste pour le Nouveau Mexique, cela me semble beaucoup sauf si vous randonnez dans les parcs, visitez tous les musées, etc. Mais attends l'avis d'autres personnes, ce sera plus prudent !
Et puis comme tu y vas en avril et moi (mais d'autres aussi) en août, n'hesite pas à nous faire un petit compte rendu à ton retour pour que l'on puisse bénéficier de tes conseils 😉 !
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Bonjour,
So75014 t'a donné le meilleur des endroits à visiter avec une bonne adresse de site chez Thierry (wavemaster)
Je suis allé sur place l'été dernier et ai passé une semaine au NM.
A part Taos Pueblo qui ne m'a pas laissé un souvenir extraordinaire j'ai aimé le reste.
3 semaines me semblent difficile à emplir par des visites.
Remonter sur Durango et Moab ou Vernal peut être sympa ou bien Tucson et le sud de l'Arizona.
Merci à So et Fred pour avoir pris le temps de me répondre. Je vais "éplucher" tous ces conseils et essayer de faire mon programme pour les 3 semaines avec, je pense, une incursion au Texas...
D'autres infos et conseils seront les bienvenus.
Merci à tous
Eric
bien sûr ne pas oublier les Carlbas Caverns..mais ça tu le sais puisquetu as déjà lu mon post sur le sujet :p.
Concernant le Texas, à part Big Bend NP je ne vois pas trop ce qu'il yaurait à faire...et pour big bend NP je pense qu'il faut au moins y consacrer 3/4jours pour en voir un minimum..après je ne l'ai pas fait mais en est entendu parler et ai vu des photos absoluement sublime. Mais il ya énormément de monde, aussi faut-il reserver tout camping/lodge/hotels à l'avance :).
pour ce qui est à voir au NM et un peu au Texas, le Photographing the Southwest de Laurent Martres (livres auquels Sedonax en personne a collaboré!) m'a été très helpful pour me décider :). après ce n'est pas de la pub mais juste un avis!
Bonne préparation,
Sally
Concernant le Texas, à part Big Bend NP je ne vois pas trop ce qu'il yaurait à faire...et pour big bend NP je pense qu'il faut au moins y consacrer 3/4jours pour en voir un minimum..après je ne l'ai pas fait mais en est entendu parler et ai vu des photos absoluement sublime. Mais il ya énormément de monde, aussi faut-il reserver tout camping/lodge/hotels à l'avance :).
pour ce qui est à voir au NM et un peu au Texas, le Photographing the Southwest de Laurent Martres (livres auquels Sedonax en personne a collaboré!) m'a été très helpful pour me décider :). après ce n'est pas de la pub mais juste un avis!
Bonne préparation,
Sally
Personnellement, j'aime beaucoup le Nouveau-Mexique:c'est très varié et c'est un état pas cher du tout mais cela dépend aussi de ce que l'on recherche, donc je vais donner mon avis personnel :
Pour moi en premier c'est Chaco Canyon les ruines et son histoire (le camping au pied des falaises rouges est suberbe).
En deuxième White Sands.
J'ai bien aimé Gila Cliff Dwellings pour son isolement. C'est dans une région de "Widerness" et les Americains viennent y randonner pour ne voir personne pendant une semaine. Aussi pour ceux qui aiment l'histoire El Morro, et a côté pour les paysages El Malpais.
D'un autre style il y a le Ghost Ranch à Abiquiu de Georga O Keefe.
Je recommande aussi la vallée de Jemez spring où il y a des rouges plus rouge que dans l'Utah pour aller à Bandelier National monument et Los alamos.
J'omets d'autres lieux déja mentionnés dans le forum.
Je regrette de n'avoir pas pu passé au "very large array radio telescope", et Salmons ruins, Pecos et Petroghlyps Nlt Monument pour leur côté historique.
Bien sûr il y a aussi la haute montagne ( par exemple Taos Sky Valley) mais ça ressemble un peu à nos paysageset à cette époque il devrait y faire trop froid.
Avec la carte donnée dans les visitors center il est possible de se concocter un bon itinéraire
Un grand merci pour tes conseils, "Fran38". Je pense qu'on a sensiblement la même approche de cet état, à la fois sur le plan de la beauté des paysages et sur l'aspect historique et culturel. J'espère retrouver au NM ce que j'ai vécu en Arizona...
Je suis aussi preneur d'infos et avis sur les hébergements et les "petits coins sympas" (restaus, ...)
Quelqu'un aurait-il des adresses pour se procurer des "natural turquoise" ou de la turquoise brute à travailler ?
Merci encore à tous
Eric
Je campe (j'aime beaucoup cela et on est toujours au cœur du sujet), donc je ne pourrais pas aider du côté logement.
Pour la turquoise je sais qu'on n'en trouve pas partout. Je me rappelle avoir été sur le site d'une mine de turquoise abondonnée au sud de Deming. A Deming chaque année en Mars il y a un Rock Hound round-up donc il devrait y avoir des rock-shop mais c'est très au sud du Nouveau-Mexique.
Les Arizoniens trouvent la cuisine mexicaine du Nouveau-Mexique bien meilleure que la leur!
Bonjour,
outre les nombreux avis éclairés qui t'ont renseigné, je contribue modestement à ton post. je ne reviendrais pas sur le côté historique, mais si tu penses séjourner longtemps au NM, il faut se ménager des périodes de "loisirs". A ce titre, je te fais part de 2 expériences datant de septembre 2007. : nous avons loué une Harley-Davidson chez le concessionnaire d'Albuquerque http://www.thunderbirdhd.com/default.asp nous avons roulé sur la route 66 pendant 5 heures A/R pour 105 euros . et le lendemain, nous avons fait un tour en mongolfière avec http://www.skyspanadventures.com/index.htm survol de la ville et du Rio Grande, super équipé et prix très intéressant (115 euros) par rapport à chez nous. Tombstone est "fun" aussi, mais il faut y aller en fin de semaine. White sands est magnifique, et le restaurant "La Posta" à Las Cruces très très bon !!
Bon voyage !
outre les nombreux avis éclairés qui t'ont renseigné, je contribue modestement à ton post. je ne reviendrais pas sur le côté historique, mais si tu penses séjourner longtemps au NM, il faut se ménager des périodes de "loisirs". A ce titre, je te fais part de 2 expériences datant de septembre 2007. : nous avons loué une Harley-Davidson chez le concessionnaire d'Albuquerque http://www.thunderbirdhd.com/default.asp nous avons roulé sur la route 66 pendant 5 heures A/R pour 105 euros . et le lendemain, nous avons fait un tour en mongolfière avec http://www.skyspanadventures.com/index.htm survol de la ville et du Rio Grande, super équipé et prix très intéressant (115 euros) par rapport à chez nous. Tombstone est "fun" aussi, mais il faut y aller en fin de semaine. White sands est magnifique, et le restaurant "La Posta" à Las Cruces très très bon !!
Bon voyage !
La liste des sites qui t'ont été donnés notamment par Fran38 (qui est sortie des sentiers battus, peu de touristes étrangers vont à Ghost Ranch / Abiquiu !) et SO75014 (que je remercie en passant pour son appréciation positive du site www.ouestusa.fr auquel je collabore avec Thierry / Wavemaster), avec aussi le conseil des Carlsbad Caverns de Merboto (que je remercie aussi pour Photographing the Southwest), est déjà assez complète pour remplir 2 semaines.
Mais on peut aussi y ajouter d'autres sites comme ceux où j'ai amené Thierry lors du dernier trip que j'ai organisé en octobre 2007, à savoir Bisti Badlands (notamment pour les photographes, les amateurs de ciriosités géologiques et de bois pétrifié), Aztec (les ruines en ville mais aussi les arches en dehors) et pour ceux que les petroglyphes intéressent les sites de 3 Rivers petroglyphs et celui encore confidentiel de Crow canyon (si on dispose d'un SUV 4x4 pour ce dernier).
Pour les hébérgements, je vais dans les motels peu chers trouvés au gré du trajet ou je fais du camping donc je ne serai pas de très bon conseil. A Alamogordo je peux néanmoins te conseiller le White Sands Motel qui est très correct, un peu en retrait de la route et juste à côté du Golden Corral un "all you can eat" au rapport qualité prix imbattable (puisque cela inclue le steack de boeuf pour 10 $).
Avril est un mois venteux dans les grandes plaines du Nouveau Mexique et en cas de vent à White Sands soit prudent au cours de tes balades car un vent de sable qui se lève brusquement dans les dunes a vite fait de te faire perdre ton chemin et de ne plus retrouver l'emplacement où tu as garé ta voiture.
Mais on peut aussi y ajouter d'autres sites comme ceux où j'ai amené Thierry lors du dernier trip que j'ai organisé en octobre 2007, à savoir Bisti Badlands (notamment pour les photographes, les amateurs de ciriosités géologiques et de bois pétrifié), Aztec (les ruines en ville mais aussi les arches en dehors) et pour ceux que les petroglyphes intéressent les sites de 3 Rivers petroglyphs et celui encore confidentiel de Crow canyon (si on dispose d'un SUV 4x4 pour ce dernier).
Pour les hébérgements, je vais dans les motels peu chers trouvés au gré du trajet ou je fais du camping donc je ne serai pas de très bon conseil. A Alamogordo je peux néanmoins te conseiller le White Sands Motel qui est très correct, un peu en retrait de la route et juste à côté du Golden Corral un "all you can eat" au rapport qualité prix imbattable (puisque cela inclue le steack de boeuf pour 10 $).
Avril est un mois venteux dans les grandes plaines du Nouveau Mexique et en cas de vent à White Sands soit prudent au cours de tes balades car un vent de sable qui se lève brusquement dans les dunes a vite fait de te faire perdre ton chemin et de ne plus retrouver l'emplacement où tu as garé ta voiture.
www.phschuler.com et www.ouestusa.fr, pour une vision de l'Ouest en dehors des sentiers battus.
Carnet de voyage Ouest USA 2009
je vous remercie tous (Sedonax, stgeran69, Fran38, Merboto, So75014, et tous les autres) pour vos réponses et vos conseils avisés.
Le site ouestusa.fr est génial et vraiment bien construit. Chapeau !
N'hésitez, surtout pas à en rajouter, je prends tout ce qui vient. Rien ne remplacera les expériences personnelles.
Merci encore à tous
Eric
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I’d like to travel along I-15N from San Diego to Las Vegas with my mom, who’s 67. We’ve explored Northern California and the California Coast over the past two years and now want to continue through the desert.
There are several attractions along the way: - Mormon Rocks - Desert Discovery Center and visit the Old Woman meteorite - Joshua Tree National Park - Mojave Desert - Mojave National Preserve - Anza-Borrego Desert State Park - Silverwood Lake
My mom has back issues that prevent her from hiking or walking on trails with elevation changes. Is it possible to visit these places by car, or are the routes flat enough?
I’d love for her to experience the desert with an itinerary adapted to her condition. I’m also open to other points of interest that aren’t mentioned. We have 3-4 days for the trip, so we’re not in a rush—just want to explore.
Thanks so much. The trip would be in fall 2026
There are several attractions along the way: - Mormon Rocks - Desert Discovery Center and visit the Old Woman meteorite - Joshua Tree National Park - Mojave Desert - Mojave National Preserve - Anza-Borrego Desert State Park - Silverwood Lake
My mom has back issues that prevent her from hiking or walking on trails with elevation changes. Is it possible to visit these places by car, or are the routes flat enough?
I’d love for her to experience the desert with an itinerary adapted to her condition. I’m also open to other points of interest that aren’t mentioned. We have 3-4 days for the trip, so we’re not in a rush—just want to explore.
Thanks so much. The trip would be in fall 2026
Hi there,
I’d love to take a road trip and visit Nova Scotia. I’d appreciate some info on the best cities to see and the most interesting spots. The trip should last about 10 to 15 days, staying in hotels or motels. Thanks in advance!
I’d love to take a road trip and visit Nova Scotia. I’d appreciate some info on the best cities to see and the most interesting spots. The trip should last about 10 to 15 days, staying in hotels or motels. Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
Quick question—I’m heading to New York soon and I’d love to know if you guys have any recommendations for websites where I can buy concert tickets?
Quick question—I’m heading to New York soon and I’d love to know if you guys have any recommendations for websites where I can buy concert tickets?
Hi there,
We’re being relocated to Saint Pierre and Miquelon. We’ll be taking the flight from Nantes to Montreal and then from Montreal to Saint Pierre. Could you recommend a hotel near the departure terminal that allows dogs?
Thanks!
We’re being relocated to Saint Pierre and Miquelon. We’ll be taking the flight from Nantes to Montreal and then from Montreal to Saint Pierre. Could you recommend a hotel near the departure terminal that allows dogs?
Thanks!
Hi,
My 16-year-old son is flying to Grand Rapids with other kids his age. There’s a layover in Detroit. There’s no unaccompanied minor service available. Is it pretty easy to navigate Detroit Airport to catch the connecting flight to Grand Rapids (domestic flight)? There are several of them who speak English well.
Thanks for your replies,
Good evening, everyone! 🙂
Just a few last questions to wrap up our Lake Tahoe visit plans.
**Parking:** We’d like to walk to Eagle Falls and then Eagle Lake. I’ve spotted two parking lots that seem close to each other and give access to the trailhead. Where and how do we pay for entry to Emerald Bay State Park and Inspiration Point?
**Viewpoints on the East Side:** Are most of the viewpoints (Balancing Rock, Granite Cave, Bonsai Rock, etc.) right by the road, or do you have to hike to reach them?
**Donner Memorial State Park:** Is it worth making a detour to Truckee to visit this park and the Truckee historic downtown?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
**Parking:** We’d like to walk to Eagle Falls and then Eagle Lake. I’ve spotted two parking lots that seem close to each other and give access to the trailhead. Where and how do we pay for entry to Emerald Bay State Park and Inspiration Point?
**Viewpoints on the East Side:** Are most of the viewpoints (Balancing Rock, Granite Cave, Bonsai Rock, etc.) right by the road, or do you have to hike to reach them?
**Donner Memorial State Park:** Is it worth making a detour to Truckee to visit this park and the Truckee historic downtown?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
Hi there. I'm shocked by the price of the Upper Antelope Canyon tour—$175 for less than an hour… You might say, "if you can’t afford it…" But the real question is whether it’s really worth it, because $350 for two makes me feel like I’m getting ripped off. For those who’ve done both Lower and Upper, can you tell me if the price difference is really justified? Thanks
Hi everyone! 🙂
As you can see, we're heading back from September 6th to the 27th.
Everything’s booked for September—flights, accommodations, and the car. As I plan, I’ll be asking the experts for help. This is our second trip to California, but most of the stops are new to us.
We’ll start directly from San Francisco to our first overnight stop, Davis, before heading to Lassen Volcanic Park for 4 nights. Our flight lands at 12:50 PM.
Here’s our itinerary: Day 1: Davis – overnight stop Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen) Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes) Day 6: South Lake Tahoe Day 7: South Lake Tahoe Day 8: Mammoth Lake Day 9: Mammoth Lake Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road Day 11: El Portal Day 12: El Portal Day 13: Oakhurst Day 14: Miramonte Day 15: Three Rivers Day 16: Three Rivers Day 17: Coalinga Day 18: Monterey Day 19: Monterey Day 20: San Francisco Day 21: San Francisco Day 22: Departure
For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned: Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2) Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3) Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4) Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)
I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV? Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?
That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening! Marcalamar 🙂
Here’s our itinerary: Day 1: Davis – overnight stop Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen) Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes) Day 6: South Lake Tahoe Day 7: South Lake Tahoe Day 8: Mammoth Lake Day 9: Mammoth Lake Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road Day 11: El Portal Day 12: El Portal Day 13: Oakhurst Day 14: Miramonte Day 15: Three Rivers Day 16: Three Rivers Day 17: Coalinga Day 18: Monterey Day 19: Monterey Day 20: San Francisco Day 21: San Francisco Day 22: Departure
For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned: Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2) Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3) Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4) Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)
I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV? Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?
That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening! Marcalamar 🙂
Here's a tip for future visitors!
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/3-national-parks-slash-red-tape-americans-boldly-transforming-visitor-entry
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/3-national-parks-slash-red-tape-americans-boldly-transforming-visitor-entry
Hi everyone,
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast. I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October. My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips. I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks to everyone for your advice and help.
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast. I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October. My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips. I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks to everyone for your advice and help.
Thanks for advising me on the booking—should I reserve a room in the hotel or go for a cabin for the best view?
Should I get breakfast or not?
What do you think of the restaurant?
Hello, if the off-the-beaten-path enthusiasts are still around 😉, I’d love some info on tackling these trails. I’m not super familiar with the rules, risks, or what to expect—I’m looking for firsthand experience from folks who’ve done it on their own once or multiple times.
Hi everyone!
I’m planning a week-long family trip to NYC in October 2026. The focus is on museums and soaking up the New York vibe. I’ve been checking Airbnb, but the prices in Manhattan are through the roof. Since I don’t know NYC well, is it "wise" to look outside Manhattan? Any neighborhoods you’d recommend?
Hello,
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas) T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC) W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV) F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Christophe
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas) T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC) W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV) F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Christophe
Hi North America forum crew,
Just a little post that might interest some of you:
Travelers to the United States | Photo Now Mandatory Upon Entry and Exit | La Presse
Hi everyone.
I assume many of you already know, but the America the Beautiful annual pass, which was $80, will increase to $250 starting January 1, 2026.
So if you're planning to travel before the end of December 2026, it's in your best interest to buy your pass in December 2025, since it will still cost $80 and be valid until the end of December 2026 if you purchase it in December 2025.
This price increase only applies to non-U.S. residents.
Additionally, for those who planned to visit just one park, a $100 surcharge per person will apply to access a list of 11 national parks... For example, if there are 4 of you in a car, you’ll have to pay $35 + $400, which comes to $435 to visit one of the 11 parks on the list (I don’t have all of them... Bryce, Zion, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.). Total madness.
The goal is to push people who only visit one park into buying the annual pass.
Last point: free entry days are over for non-residents!
That’s all for now.
I assume many of you already know, but the America the Beautiful annual pass, which was $80, will increase to $250 starting January 1, 2026.
So if you're planning to travel before the end of December 2026, it's in your best interest to buy your pass in December 2025, since it will still cost $80 and be valid until the end of December 2026 if you purchase it in December 2025.
This price increase only applies to non-U.S. residents.
Additionally, for those who planned to visit just one park, a $100 surcharge per person will apply to access a list of 11 national parks... For example, if there are 4 of you in a car, you’ll have to pay $35 + $400, which comes to $435 to visit one of the 11 parks on the list (I don’t have all of them... Bryce, Zion, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.). Total madness.
The goal is to push people who only visit one park into buying the annual pass.
Last point: free entry days are over for non-residents!
That’s all for now.
Hi everyone, I’m traveling to Los Angeles and would like to rent a vehicle at the airport. However, I have a Boursobank Ultim deferred debit card, so I’d love to know if it’s possible for those who’ve experienced this recently. Thanks for the info!
Hi VF community,
I’m planning a week in S.F. in April 2026 and I can’t figure out how to tell the cable cars—of which I understand there are three lines—apart from the trams, which I think number seven. I can’t find their individual numbers or routes anywhere.
Could someone shed some light on this for me? Thanks in advance.
Wishing you all a Merry Christmas and a wonderful 2026 full of amazing travels. Cheers, Régine
I’m planning a week in S.F. in April 2026 and I can’t figure out how to tell the cable cars—of which I understand there are three lines—apart from the trams, which I think number seven. I can’t find their individual numbers or routes anywhere.
Could someone shed some light on this for me? Thanks in advance.
Wishing you all a Merry Christmas and a wonderful 2026 full of amazing travels. Cheers, Régine
Hi,
I’m planning a road trip through the American national parks starting from Denver in June 2026.
The price of the pass is jumping from 80 € to 250 € on January 1st, 2026!!!
Is it possible to buy the pass online before the end of the year to lock in the 80 € rate? If so, where and how do I go about it?
Thanks for your tips.
Arnale
Hi there,
I’m planning a road trip for July 2026 in northern Florida. Could you let me know if my itinerary makes sense? Day 1: Orlando Day 2: Amelia Island Day 3: Amelia Island Day 4: Tallahassee Day 5: Panama City Beach Day 6: Panama City Beach (visit to Destin) Day 7: Crystal River (stop in Cedar Key on the way) Day 8: Crystal River Day 9: Anna Maria (stop in Clearwater) Day 10: Anna Maria (St. Pete) Day 11: Anna Maria Day 12: Orlando Day 13: Orlando Day 14: Orlando Day 15: Departure
Thanks in advance for your tips!
I’m planning a road trip for July 2026 in northern Florida. Could you let me know if my itinerary makes sense? Day 1: Orlando Day 2: Amelia Island Day 3: Amelia Island Day 4: Tallahassee Day 5: Panama City Beach Day 6: Panama City Beach (visit to Destin) Day 7: Crystal River (stop in Cedar Key on the way) Day 8: Crystal River Day 9: Anna Maria (stop in Clearwater) Day 10: Anna Maria (St. Pete) Day 11: Anna Maria Day 12: Orlando Day 13: Orlando Day 14: Orlando Day 15: Departure
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Hey everyone!
We just finished 9 days in the American West and wanted to share our experience because we had an amazing time.
I know some of you might ask, why use an agency? Honestly, we didn’t really feel like doing all the driving and planning, especially since we didn’t know the area at all. And since our English isn’t great, having French-speaking guides was a big comfort.
We found Emmanuelle and Isabelle, and wow, they were fantastic. It was just the two of us with them, so it was a truly VIP, ultra-personalized experience. They treated us like royalty from start to finish. These two live in Las Vegas and know the region like the back of their hand. They told us they’ve spent over 15 years exploring every corner of the American West, and it really shows. Their knowledge of geology, park history, and local anecdotes is just impressive. It’s nothing like someone reciting a memorized script. They answer all your questions and really adapt to what you want to see or do.
What we really loved: the vehicle was super comfortable, and the little details made a difference—like snacks and even a homemade cake! Though, to be fair, we devoured the cake right away, so that counts.
Since they know the sites inside out, they took us at the right times to avoid crowds. So we could enjoy peaceful picnics at Grand Canyon viewpoints without being packed in with 200 people. Plus, on top of the must-see spots, they showed us some hidden gems that were absolutely stunning—places we never would’ve found on our own. They’re true locals who know all the best tips.
The service was really personalized. They adapted to our pace and preferences, and we could stop whenever we wanted to take photos. It’s the luxury of being in a small private group—you’re not just a number on a big bus. In short, we really felt like we were traveling with friends rather than professional guides. Everything’s included in the price (hotel pickup, meals, park entries, etc.), so the value for money is fair.
We loved it so much that we’re already planning to come back next year to explore other areas with them. I think we’ve caught the American West bug—it’s all we can think about, and we can’t wait to return.
If you’re looking for a French-speaking tour with real personalized service and guides who know the region like no one else, we highly recommend them. We had unforgettable moments. They also design road trips for those who don’t want a guide. And they handled our hotel reservations in Las Vegas too. If you want genuine advice from friendly locals, we’re giving them a 200% recommendation!
We just finished 9 days in the American West and wanted to share our experience because we had an amazing time.
I know some of you might ask, why use an agency? Honestly, we didn’t really feel like doing all the driving and planning, especially since we didn’t know the area at all. And since our English isn’t great, having French-speaking guides was a big comfort.
We found Emmanuelle and Isabelle, and wow, they were fantastic. It was just the two of us with them, so it was a truly VIP, ultra-personalized experience. They treated us like royalty from start to finish. These two live in Las Vegas and know the region like the back of their hand. They told us they’ve spent over 15 years exploring every corner of the American West, and it really shows. Their knowledge of geology, park history, and local anecdotes is just impressive. It’s nothing like someone reciting a memorized script. They answer all your questions and really adapt to what you want to see or do.
What we really loved: the vehicle was super comfortable, and the little details made a difference—like snacks and even a homemade cake! Though, to be fair, we devoured the cake right away, so that counts.
Since they know the sites inside out, they took us at the right times to avoid crowds. So we could enjoy peaceful picnics at Grand Canyon viewpoints without being packed in with 200 people. Plus, on top of the must-see spots, they showed us some hidden gems that were absolutely stunning—places we never would’ve found on our own. They’re true locals who know all the best tips.
The service was really personalized. They adapted to our pace and preferences, and we could stop whenever we wanted to take photos. It’s the luxury of being in a small private group—you’re not just a number on a big bus. In short, we really felt like we were traveling with friends rather than professional guides. Everything’s included in the price (hotel pickup, meals, park entries, etc.), so the value for money is fair.
We loved it so much that we’re already planning to come back next year to explore other areas with them. I think we’ve caught the American West bug—it’s all we can think about, and we can’t wait to return.
If you’re looking for a French-speaking tour with real personalized service and guides who know the region like no one else, we highly recommend them. We had unforgettable moments. They also design road trips for those who don’t want a guide. And they handled our hotel reservations in Las Vegas too. If you want genuine advice from friendly locals, we’re giving them a 200% recommendation!





