Formalités pour traverser les pays des Balkans avec un véhicule?
by Rfm851
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour.
J'ai beaucoup lu le forum concernant les formalités pour ces pays.
Je vous fais ci-dessous la synthèse que j'en ai faite.
Lorsque j'écris "carte verte", c'est que je pense qu'elle suffit pour l'assurance du véhicule.
Si c'est faux, n'hésitez pas à corriger SVP
Lorsque j'écris "véhicule ok", c'est que je pense qu'il n'y a rien de particulier à remplir au passage de frontière (entrée comme sortie).
Je sais qu'il n'y a pas besoin de carnet de passage en douane, mais en Turquie, par exemple, il faut absolument remplir des papiers d'entrée du véhicule, et on doit impérativement ressortir avec. Et dans ce cas, le passeport est obligatoire (pour y inscrire le véhicule, si j'ai bien compris ?) !
Je ne sais si d'autres pays demandent ça aussi ?
Pour les vignettes autoroute, je suis très méfiant. Je ne veux pas circuler sur autoroute, mais il est parfois très difficile de les éviter (autour d'une ville, ou dans certaines régions).
Si vous avez des détails...
CNI = Carte Nationale d'Identité
Merci de me corriger si erreur !
- Slovénie - CNI - assurance carte verte - véhicule : ok - Euro
- Croatie - CNI - assurance carte verte - véhicule : ok - taxe autoroute -
- Bosnie-Herzégovine - CNI - assurance carte verte - véhicule : ok
- Serbie - passeport - peut-être changement en 2010, vu les dernières décisions EU ? - assurance carte verte - véhicule : ok -
- Montenegro - CNI - taxe de 10 euros ? - assurance carte verte - véhicule : ok
Cette taxe m'ennuie terriblement, car je compte passer plusieurs fois la frontière (petites routes de montagne)
Doit-on la payer à chaque fois ?
- Kosovo - CNI - taxe ? (si oui, même question que pour Montenegro) - assurance carte verte - véhicule : ok - Euro
Attention pour le Kosovo. Non reconnu par la Serbie, il faut donc passer d'abord en Serbie pour y pénétrer, ou ne pas aller en Serbie depuis le Kosovo.
- Albanie - CNI - assurance carte verte - véhicule : ok
- ARYM/FYROM - CNI - assurance carte verte - véhicule : ok
- Roumanie - CNI - assurance carte verte - véhicule : ok
- Bulgarie - CNI - assurance carte verte - véhicule : ok
- Moldavie - passeport - assurance carte verte - véhicule : ok
- Ukraine - passeport - assurance spéciale ? - véhicule : ok
- Turquie - CNI - mais passeport pour véhicule (papiers en frontière obligatoires !) - - assurance carte verte -
- Grèce - CNI - assurance carte verte - véhicule : ok - Euro
Enfin, en dehors du problème Serbie-Kosovo, existe-t-il des pays posant problème selon que l'on y entre depuis tel ou tel pays ?
Je referai un tableau de synthèse à la fin avec vos réponses.
Pour éviter de "polluer" les renseignements, merci de ne répondre QUE si vous êtes certains de l'information.
Ce post pourrait être utile à de nombreuses personnes.
Merci d'avance pour votre aide.
Bonjour,
Slovénie - CNI - assurance carte verte - véhicule : ok - Euro
Attention il vous faut une vignette pour circuler sur les autoroutes de ce pays, et vous devez IMPERATIVEMENT l'avoir AVANT de rentrer sur l'autoroute.
Croatie - CNI - assurance carte verte - véhicule : ok - taxe autoroute -
Qu'appelez-vous une "taxe autoroute" ? En Croatie les autoroutes se payent au péage, comme en France.
Montenegro - CNI - taxe de 10 euros ? - assurance carte verte - véhicule : ok Cette taxe m'ennuie terriblement, car je compte passer plusieurs fois la frontière (petites routes de montagne) Doit-on la payer à chaque fois ?
La monnaie du Monténégro est l'euro. La "taxe écologique" de 10 E se matérialise par une vignette qu'on vous colle sur le pare-brise à la frontière. Elle est valable jusqu'au 14 juin de l'année suivante. Vous n'avez donc pas besoin de repayer à chaque fois.
Kosovo - CNI - taxe ? (si oui, même question que pour Montenegro) - assurance carte verte - véhicule : ok - Euro
Non la carte verte n'est pas valable au Kosovo. Vous devez contracter une assurance particulière à la frontière : durée minimum 15 jours, cout 50 euro.
Catherine
Slovénie - CNI - assurance carte verte - véhicule : ok - Euro
Attention il vous faut une vignette pour circuler sur les autoroutes de ce pays, et vous devez IMPERATIVEMENT l'avoir AVANT de rentrer sur l'autoroute.
Croatie - CNI - assurance carte verte - véhicule : ok - taxe autoroute -
Qu'appelez-vous une "taxe autoroute" ? En Croatie les autoroutes se payent au péage, comme en France.
Montenegro - CNI - taxe de 10 euros ? - assurance carte verte - véhicule : ok Cette taxe m'ennuie terriblement, car je compte passer plusieurs fois la frontière (petites routes de montagne) Doit-on la payer à chaque fois ?
La monnaie du Monténégro est l'euro. La "taxe écologique" de 10 E se matérialise par une vignette qu'on vous colle sur le pare-brise à la frontière. Elle est valable jusqu'au 14 juin de l'année suivante. Vous n'avez donc pas besoin de repayer à chaque fois.
Kosovo - CNI - taxe ? (si oui, même question que pour Montenegro) - assurance carte verte - véhicule : ok - Euro
Non la carte verte n'est pas valable au Kosovo. Vous devez contracter une assurance particulière à la frontière : durée minimum 15 jours, cout 50 euro.
Catherine
Bonjour,
Je sais qu'il n'y a pas besoin de carnet de passage en douane, mais en Turquie, par exemple, il faut absolument remplir des papiers d'entrée du véhicule, et on doit impérativement ressortir avec. Et dans ce cas, le passeport est obligatoire (pour y inscrire le véhicule, si j'ai bien compris ?) !
Je ne suis pas très sûr que ce soit absolument incontournable. Vous avez une certitude ?
- Kosovo - CNI
Là aussi j'ai un gros doute.
Pour éviter de "polluer" les renseignements, merci de ne répondre QUE si vous êtes certains de l'information.
Si vous le prenez comme ça je ne suis pas certain de vouloir vérifier. 🙂
Michel
Je sais qu'il n'y a pas besoin de carnet de passage en douane, mais en Turquie, par exemple, il faut absolument remplir des papiers d'entrée du véhicule, et on doit impérativement ressortir avec. Et dans ce cas, le passeport est obligatoire (pour y inscrire le véhicule, si j'ai bien compris ?) !
Je ne suis pas très sûr que ce soit absolument incontournable. Vous avez une certitude ?
- Kosovo - CNI
Là aussi j'ai un gros doute.
Pour éviter de "polluer" les renseignements, merci de ne répondre QUE si vous êtes certains de l'information.
Si vous le prenez comme ça je ne suis pas certain de vouloir vérifier. 🙂
Michel
Pour éviter de "polluer" les renseignements, merci de ne répondre QUE si vous êtes certains de l'information.
Si vous le prenez comme ça je ne suis pas certain de vouloir vérifier. 🙂 Michel
Bonjour Michel LOrsque j'aurai assez de réponses, je ferai une synthèse que je laisserai sur le forum pour tout le monde. Je ne comprends donc pas trop bien la remarque ? Je n'ai aucune envie de mettre des renseignements erronnés. Mieux vaut "pas de réponse" que "mauvaise réponse". Juste une affaire de bon sens, pas d'impolitesse. Pardion si j'ai froissé, ce n'était pas le but ! - -- Pour le véhicule en Turquie, oui, je suis certain de l'information (3 guides de voyage Turquie récents) Maintenant, la législation turque a peut-être changé ? Amicalement.
Si vous le prenez comme ça je ne suis pas certain de vouloir vérifier. 🙂 Michel
Bonjour Michel LOrsque j'aurai assez de réponses, je ferai une synthèse que je laisserai sur le forum pour tout le monde. Je ne comprends donc pas trop bien la remarque ? Je n'ai aucune envie de mettre des renseignements erronnés. Mieux vaut "pas de réponse" que "mauvaise réponse". Juste une affaire de bon sens, pas d'impolitesse. Pardion si j'ai froissé, ce n'était pas le but ! - -- Pour le véhicule en Turquie, oui, je suis certain de l'information (3 guides de voyage Turquie récents) Maintenant, la législation turque a peut-être changé ? Amicalement.
Re...
Pour le véhicule en Turquie, oui, je suis certain de l'information (3 guides de voyage Turquie récents)
Je ne sais pas ; la législation n'a pas changé, mais les Turcs sont rarement formalistes, et si un voyageur se présente avec une CNI et une voiture je parie qu'ils trouvent une solution. Je ne lis guère les guides de voyage, et ne les crois qu'avec réserves.
Michel
Pour le véhicule en Turquie, oui, je suis certain de l'information (3 guides de voyage Turquie récents)
Je ne sais pas ; la législation n'a pas changé, mais les Turcs sont rarement formalistes, et si un voyageur se présente avec une CNI et une voiture je parie qu'ils trouvent une solution. Je ne lis guère les guides de voyage, et ne les crois qu'avec réserves.
Michel
merci beaucoup rfm851..!
super initiative, en effet ça m'est déjà très utile (il faudrait des gens comme ça qui fasse des synthèse dans chaque rubrique!). ça simplifie VACHEMENT la tache! merci!!!
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Bonjour,
Pour la Roumanie, une taxe routière est obligatoire pour voyager entre les villes du pays, autoroute (rare) ou pas. Seule la circulation à l'intérieur d'une ville ne nécessite pas de vignette (Rovigneta)
Pour passer de Roumanie en Serbie, une taxe d'entrée nous a été demandé à la douane sous prétexte que la carte verte indiquait Serbie et Monténégro alors que ce sont 2 pays séparé maintenant et que donc nous n'étions pas assuré pour la Serbie (Seule). Je pense que çà s'apparente à du racket, mais en tout état de cause, nous avons du rebrousser chemin pour ne pas payer.
Cdlt
Pour la Roumanie, une taxe routière est obligatoire pour voyager entre les villes du pays, autoroute (rare) ou pas. Seule la circulation à l'intérieur d'une ville ne nécessite pas de vignette (Rovigneta)
Pour passer de Roumanie en Serbie, une taxe d'entrée nous a été demandé à la douane sous prétexte que la carte verte indiquait Serbie et Monténégro alors que ce sont 2 pays séparé maintenant et que donc nous n'étions pas assuré pour la Serbie (Seule). Je pense que çà s'apparente à du racket, mais en tout état de cause, nous avons du rebrousser chemin pour ne pas payer.
Cdlt
Bonjour a vous tous je suis actuellement en Grece et je vien donc de traverser litalie slovenie la croatie montenegro albanie et grece . Donc carte didentite obligatoire , permis de comduire carte verte aussi mais aucun probleme pour passer. Par contre ettention a lentrer du Montenegro une taxe ecologique et obligatoire pour les voiture c 10 euro, pour les petit fourgon c 40 et pour les fourgon c 80 euro la surprise a la frontiere bon par chance on le douanier qui nous a controler a vu notre tete quand il nous a annoncer 80 euro , je roule en B70 , et la il ma proposer un deal. jai payer la vignette 40 euro si je traverser le pays dans la journee chose que jai fait mais c tout a fait possible de rester dans le pays tant que les flic ne vous controle pas .
Je doit vous mettre en garde la route pour accader a la frontiere et completement demonter des fros trou sur la route. En plus la route na q une seule voie donc quand plusieur camion se rencontre cela peut etre tres long mais ca passe .Si vous arriver en debut de soiree a la frontiere avec lalbanie , je vous conseil vivememt de dormir sur le parking de la douanne , je v vous expliquer.
Apres avoir passer le frontiere Albanaise, il va vous falloir beaucoup de courage et patience car pour faire les 20km avant la ville de Skoder car la route nexiste pas c un chemin avec plein de trou personellement jai mis deux heure . ensuite les route en Albanis sont a peu pres correct jusqua Tirane et si vous souhaiter rejoidre le grece prendre le diection de Durres a la la route est correct jusqua Giroquaster ou a partir de la, la route et neuve .
Attention a Durres ne vous approcher pas du port meme par curiosite la pauvrete et la faim y sont tres presente et les enfants nesite pas a se jeter sur votre vehicule pour reclamer .
desoler pour se qui et de la ponctuation et si mon message nest pas tres clair mais le clavier grec est tres complexe
a tres bientot jeune fou
Je doit vous mettre en garde la route pour accader a la frontiere et completement demonter des fros trou sur la route. En plus la route na q une seule voie donc quand plusieur camion se rencontre cela peut etre tres long mais ca passe .Si vous arriver en debut de soiree a la frontiere avec lalbanie , je vous conseil vivememt de dormir sur le parking de la douanne , je v vous expliquer.
Apres avoir passer le frontiere Albanaise, il va vous falloir beaucoup de courage et patience car pour faire les 20km avant la ville de Skoder car la route nexiste pas c un chemin avec plein de trou personellement jai mis deux heure . ensuite les route en Albanis sont a peu pres correct jusqua Tirane et si vous souhaiter rejoidre le grece prendre le diection de Durres a la la route est correct jusqua Giroquaster ou a partir de la, la route et neuve .
Attention a Durres ne vous approcher pas du port meme par curiosite la pauvrete et la faim y sont tres presente et les enfants nesite pas a se jeter sur votre vehicule pour reclamer .
desoler pour se qui et de la ponctuation et si mon message nest pas tres clair mais le clavier grec est tres complexe
a tres bientot jeune fou
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I already have my round-trip ticket.
The problem is, I don’t have time to get a 2-month visa because the process takes nearly a month.
From what I’ve read here and there, I need a return ticket valid for less than a month when I arrive in the Philippines to prove my good faith.
After that, I can apply for a 30-day extension at the immigration office.
I’m planning to either buy a fully refundable ticket to the nearest country or a fake ticket.
For 3 months, I’ll need to extend my visa two more times before my return date to France.
My question is this:
Will immigration ask me each time I extend my visa by one month to show proof of an exit ticket matching the new visa extension date?
Is it possible to extend directly by 2 months before the initial 30 days expire?
Thanks in advance for your experiences and tips! 😊
Hello to all the Thailand regulars.
I’ve been to Thailand several times, but it was about 20 years ago…
There’s a new system in place now, it seems.
TDAC – Thailand Digital Arrival Card.
Before arriving, I apply for a TDAC, okay. If during my stay I cross the border to spend a few days in Malaysia and then re-enter Thailand, do I need to submit a new TDAC application? Do I use the same TDAC as when I first entered the country?
Or do I initially have to pay for a Thai multi-entry visa?
Thanks in advance for your insights—I can’t find the answer online.
Pierre
I’ve been to Thailand several times, but it was about 20 years ago…
There’s a new system in place now, it seems.
TDAC – Thailand Digital Arrival Card.
Before arriving, I apply for a TDAC, okay. If during my stay I cross the border to spend a few days in Malaysia and then re-enter Thailand, do I need to submit a new TDAC application? Do I use the same TDAC as when I first entered the country?
Or do I initially have to pay for a Thai multi-entry visa?
Thanks in advance for your insights—I can’t find the answer online.
Pierre
My partner (Mexican) entered France on January 21st as a tourist. She was therefore entitled to stay for 90 days in the Schengen Area. She’ll be leaving for Mexico on April 16th, so she’ll have “used up” 86 days.
She plans to return to France on July 18th. According to the European Commission’s Schengen calculator, this new stay “may be authorized for a maximum of 90 days.” That’s not very clear ("may be," "for a maximum of").
The text of Article 6 of the European regulation (2016/399) states that for a stay planned in the territory of the Member States, not exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period, one must examine "the 180-day period preceding each day of the stay." That’s not very clear either.
My partner wants to return to France for a 90-day period starting on July 18th. Is this possible?
There are two ways to look at it:
1) The first day she spent in the Schengen Area was January 21st. That day will drop out of the calculation 180 days later, on July 20th.
From July 20th, she’ll get back 1 day of possible stay; on July 22nd, 2 days; and so on. All the days from her previous stay (January 21st–April 16th) need to be outside the 180-day rolling window. The last day of her stay was April 16th. Looking 180 days ahead, that brings us to October 13th. From that date, she’ll be able to return for a full 90 days. 2) The number of allowed days is calculated for each day of the new stay. In other words: the 180-day window is recalculated every day, not fixed at the entry date. If she re-enters France on July 18th, she’ll only have a “credit” of 4 days. But with each day of her new stay, one day from the previous stay (January–April) will drop out of the calculation. The rolling window allows her to “replace” days from the previous stay with those of the new stay, without ever exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period. In this case, my partner could stay in France for 90 days starting on July 18th. The Prefecture doesn’t provide any information, nor does Air France, and in the forums I’ve checked, opinions are divided. Thanks for any insights you can share!
She plans to return to France on July 18th. According to the European Commission’s Schengen calculator, this new stay “may be authorized for a maximum of 90 days.” That’s not very clear ("may be," "for a maximum of").
The text of Article 6 of the European regulation (2016/399) states that for a stay planned in the territory of the Member States, not exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period, one must examine "the 180-day period preceding each day of the stay." That’s not very clear either.
My partner wants to return to France for a 90-day period starting on July 18th. Is this possible?
There are two ways to look at it:
1) The first day she spent in the Schengen Area was January 21st. That day will drop out of the calculation 180 days later, on July 20th.
From July 20th, she’ll get back 1 day of possible stay; on July 22nd, 2 days; and so on. All the days from her previous stay (January 21st–April 16th) need to be outside the 180-day rolling window. The last day of her stay was April 16th. Looking 180 days ahead, that brings us to October 13th. From that date, she’ll be able to return for a full 90 days. 2) The number of allowed days is calculated for each day of the new stay. In other words: the 180-day window is recalculated every day, not fixed at the entry date. If she re-enters France on July 18th, she’ll only have a “credit” of 4 days. But with each day of her new stay, one day from the previous stay (January–April) will drop out of the calculation. The rolling window allows her to “replace” days from the previous stay with those of the new stay, without ever exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period. In this case, my partner could stay in France for 90 days starting on July 18th. The Prefecture doesn’t provide any information, nor does Air France, and in the forums I’ve checked, opinions are divided. Thanks for any insights you can share!
Hello,
We’re planning to travel to Indonesia (Sulawesi with family) next July and August for a stay longer than a month (about 6 weeks).
I’ve seen that it’s possible to get a 60-day visa before departure, but I’ve also read about people having a lot of trouble getting it (some even didn’t manage and had to leave without it).
We absolutely need to have these 4 visas BEFORE leaving because once we’re in Sulawesi, I’m not sure we’ll be able to go to an embassy to request a visa extension after 30 days.
In short, how can we **100% guarantee** that we’ll get our 4 60-day visas before our trip this summer?
Thanks for your valuable tips!
Elodie
In short, how can we **100% guarantee** that we’ll get our 4 60-day visas before our trip this summer?
Thanks for your valuable tips!
Elodie
Hi there,
I’m leaving for Japan in a few weeks. I just noticed my passport has an ink stain on the signature page. Could this cause any issues?
I’m leaving for Japan in a few weeks. I just noticed my passport has an ink stain on the signature page. Could this cause any issues?
Hello, HAPPY NEW YEAR 2026!
We’re heading back in October for a trip through Botswana, Zambia, and Zimbabwe.
I have a question: for our route, we’ll need to cross the Zambia and Zimbabwe borders twice each. From experience, I know we won’t have any issues with Botswana.
But for the other two countries, I can’t find a clear answer.
All your tips are welcome!
Thanks for your replies
Thanks for your replies
Hi everyone!
I’m currently a student on a gap year, and I don’t plan to go back to school right away. That said, traveling really interests me. But I’ve been wondering: does being a student come with any perks when you decide to go abroad? The real question is whether I should re-enroll in a program just to keep that status without actually attending.
Thanks in advance for your replies,
Axel
I’m currently a student on a gap year, and I don’t plan to go back to school right away. That said, traveling really interests me. But I’ve been wondering: does being a student come with any perks when you decide to go abroad? The real question is whether I should re-enroll in a program just to keep that status without actually attending.
Thanks in advance for your replies,
Axel
hi everyone,
I’m French and live in France, and my Thai girlfriend just told me she’s pregnant—she lives in Thailand. First step, a paternity test to set my mind at ease. What steps do I need to take to recognize the child? Can I do it before the birth or only after? Where do I need to go, and what paperwork is required?
Just to clarify, I want him to stay in Thailand but be able to come to France anytime without any issues! Thanks for taking the time to read and reply.
Just to clarify, I want him to stay in Thailand but be able to come to France anytime without any issues! Thanks for taking the time to read and reply.