Bonjour,
Voici l'activité intelligente de 2 hurluberlus à Goblin Valley State park.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-24591711
Sans commentaires !!!
Bruno
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Goblin Valley State Park: quand des vandales s'en prennent au patrimoine commun...
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Bonsoir,
La bêtise à l'état pure !!! 😠 C'est consternant. Et le filmer pour le poster après ...
Effectivement, ça laisse sans voix.
La bêtise à l'état pure !!! 😠 C'est consternant. Et le filmer pour le poster après ...
Effectivement, ça laisse sans voix.
6cha38
Oui, de la bétise à l'état pur.
Mais il faut rappeler que les américains font très attention et pratiquent très peu le vandalisme.
Chez nous (en France), si on ne cloture pas et on ne mets pas de gardiens, le vandalisme arrive très vite. Et je ne parle pas que de la kaira de banlieue.
J'ai été frappé de voir en pleine nature des kivas, ou des formations rocheuses, intactes malgré le passage libre. Chez nous combien de visiteurs français n'auraient pas prélevé un bloc ou une pierre pour mettre dans un salon?
Ces rochets ont plus de 170 millions d'annees et ces Scouts (surtout dans l'Utah), sont endoctrinnes depuis le berceau et pour eux la terre n'a pas plus de 6000 ans.
Voici le resultat.
C'est pas malin de la part de la BBC de montrer la vidéo de merde de ces abrutis
Les mecs sont contents ... leur vidéo est diffusée ... ils ont gagné ... ça leur donne de l'importance ...
Les mecs sont contents ... leur vidéo est diffusée ... ils ont gagné ... ça leur donne de l'importance ...
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ca fait le buzz cette video et ils ont recu des menaces de mort . En tout cas la justice va pas en rester là je pense. s'ils veulent casser des cailloux ils vont le faire avec un boulet au pied😛
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Bonjour à tous,
Au risque d'être un peu iconoclaste, ce genre de comportement imbécile ( le mot est faible ) est peut être le fruit d'une conjonction entre un endoctrinement "intellectuel", une connerie sans borne et la possibilité actuelle de filmer son" exploit" en direct avec son smartphone et le balancer sur les "réseaux sociaux" ou équivalent et être fier d'avoir des "like" ou des "followers"... Mais ce n'est que mon avis. En tous cas, pour être allé moi même à Goblin, ça donne envie d'hurler. Quant au respect qu'ont les Américains pour leur patrimoine, il est évident et par exemple, je n'ai trouvé au cours de mon voyage dans les parcs, aucun tag ou graffiti, ni non plus dans les locaux type WC à usage public.
Bonne journée.
Au risque d'être un peu iconoclaste, ce genre de comportement imbécile ( le mot est faible ) est peut être le fruit d'une conjonction entre un endoctrinement "intellectuel", une connerie sans borne et la possibilité actuelle de filmer son" exploit" en direct avec son smartphone et le balancer sur les "réseaux sociaux" ou équivalent et être fier d'avoir des "like" ou des "followers"... Mais ce n'est que mon avis. En tous cas, pour être allé moi même à Goblin, ça donne envie d'hurler. Quant au respect qu'ont les Américains pour leur patrimoine, il est évident et par exemple, je n'ai trouvé au cours de mon voyage dans les parcs, aucun tag ou graffiti, ni non plus dans les locaux type WC à usage public.
Bonne journée.
Si le chemin est difficile, le difficile est le chemin.
Bonjour Jean-Luc,
Je te crois bien volontiers mais je n'en ai pas vu pour ma part dans les endroits visités. La neige arrive-t-elle en abondance dans le Colorado ? Bonne journée à toi.
Je te crois bien volontiers mais je n'en ai pas vu pour ma part dans les endroits visités. La neige arrive-t-elle en abondance dans le Colorado ? Bonne journée à toi.
Si le chemin est difficile, le difficile est le chemin.
Mais quelle bande d'abrutis décérébrés !!! Quelle honte !
A la place des autorités, je prendrai le chapeau du hoodoos, en bas d'une colline et je leur ferai monter cette pierre jusqu'à la fin des temps ! Sisyphe, vous connaissez? 😠
A la place des autorités, je prendrai le chapeau du hoodoos, en bas d'une colline et je leur ferai monter cette pierre jusqu'à la fin des temps ! Sisyphe, vous connaissez? 😠
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Bien vu, bien dit et belle référence.
Si le chemin est difficile, le difficile est le chemin.
Et sur les sites de pétroglyphes il n'est pas rare de voir des plaques qu'on a tenté de voler, ce qui fait qu'il ne reste plus qu'une partie du pétroglyphe. Un exemple, entre autres, sur la Kane Creek Rd près de Moab.Mais j'ai vu exactement la même chose en Argentine, dans les Andes.
Quant aux sombres abrutis à deux neurones de Goblin Valley, je n'ai même plus de mots, et j'espère qu'ils seront poursuivis pour ce qu'ils ont fait 😠.
Quant aux sombres abrutis à deux neurones de Goblin Valley, je n'ai même plus de mots, et j'espère qu'ils seront poursuivis pour ce qu'ils ont fait 😠.
Bonjour,
Mais quelle ânerie. Goblin (que nous avions fortement apprécié) est plein de ce style de roches. J'espère que cela ne donnera pas d'idée à d'autres encore moins neuronés.
Mais quelle ânerie. Goblin (que nous avions fortement apprécié) est plein de ce style de roches. J'espère que cela ne donnera pas d'idée à d'autres encore moins neuronés.
Bonjour Madikéra,
Je crains qu'en réaction les autorités du parc restreignent la visite à un circuit limité plus facile à surveiller.
Dans le Mercantour, au dessus de Nice, plus précisément dans la vallée des Merveilles, il existe de nombreux pétroglyphes.
Quand j'avais randonné dans les années 1970, on allait où bon nous voulait. Et puis la fréquentation a augmenté. Les tags qui existaient déjà en petit nombre se sont multipliés.
Et je me suis rendu compte que depuis, les randonneurs ne peuvent plus quitter le sentier balisé ou alors il faut faire partie d'une visite encadrée.
Voilà où peut mener l'attitude stupide de quelques individus.
Bruno
Je crains qu'en réaction les autorités du parc restreignent la visite à un circuit limité plus facile à surveiller.
Dans le Mercantour, au dessus de Nice, plus précisément dans la vallée des Merveilles, il existe de nombreux pétroglyphes.
Quand j'avais randonné dans les années 1970, on allait où bon nous voulait. Et puis la fréquentation a augmenté. Les tags qui existaient déjà en petit nombre se sont multipliés.
Et je me suis rendu compte que depuis, les randonneurs ne peuvent plus quitter le sentier balisé ou alors il faut faire partie d'une visite encadrée.
Voilà où peut mener l'attitude stupide de quelques individus.
Bruno
Bonjour,
dans la vallée des Merveilles, il existe de nombreux pétroglyphes. Quand j'avais randonné dans les années 1970, on allait où bon nous voulait. Et puis la fréquentation a augmenté. Les tags qui existaient déjà en petit nombre se sont multipliés.
Et je me suis rendu compte que depuis, les randonneurs ne peuvent plus quitter le sentier balisé ou alors il faut faire partie d'une visite encadrée.
Ah, ce serait dommage... 😕 En 2006 en tout cas, c'était encore possible. Je me souviens bien des pétroglyphes – pas terribles en fait, mais c'était peut-être en comparaison de ceux de l'Ouest américain...
Pascale
dans la vallée des Merveilles, il existe de nombreux pétroglyphes. Quand j'avais randonné dans les années 1970, on allait où bon nous voulait. Et puis la fréquentation a augmenté. Les tags qui existaient déjà en petit nombre se sont multipliés.
Et je me suis rendu compte que depuis, les randonneurs ne peuvent plus quitter le sentier balisé ou alors il faut faire partie d'une visite encadrée.
Ah, ce serait dommage... 😕 En 2006 en tout cas, c'était encore possible. Je me souviens bien des pétroglyphes – pas terribles en fait, mais c'était peut-être en comparaison de ceux de l'Ouest américain...
Pascale
Bonjour Jean-Luc,
Aurais tu les moyens depuis le Colorado de savoir ce qu'il en est de ces abrutis. Savoir s'ils ont pu être identifiés et les suites sans doute judiciaires de cette connerie.
Merci et bonne journée.
Si le chemin est difficile, le difficile est le chemin.
Bonjour,
Ce ne sont sans doute pas des œuvres de la même époque.
On peut donc estimer que les hommes ont gravé sur les roches du mont Bego sur une période comprise entre 3 200 et 1700 ans avant J.-C, il y a donc plus de 4000 ans. « La plupart des gravures piquetées de la région du mont Bego daterait de l'âge du Bronze ancien et aurait été exécuté entre 1800 et 1500 avant notre ère » Henry de Lumley (Institut de Paléontologie Humaine de Paris).
Et là je laisse les puits de science de VF nous apporter plus de précisions sur les pétroglyphes américains et leur ancienneté.
Je me permets d'ajouter ces quelques conseils glanés sur un site dédié et qui s'appliquent aussi à l'Ouest américain.
A ne pas faire : Gratter, mouiller, écrire, graver... Et ne riez pas : de nombreux "touristes" se croyant certainement très intelligents ont cherché à laisser une trace de leur passage, d'autres ont voulu contraster les gravures pour les prendre en photo. Tous ont irrémédiablement abimé ces vestiges de plusieurs millénaires. .
Bruno
Ce ne sont sans doute pas des œuvres de la même époque.
On peut donc estimer que les hommes ont gravé sur les roches du mont Bego sur une période comprise entre 3 200 et 1700 ans avant J.-C, il y a donc plus de 4000 ans. « La plupart des gravures piquetées de la région du mont Bego daterait de l'âge du Bronze ancien et aurait été exécuté entre 1800 et 1500 avant notre ère » Henry de Lumley (Institut de Paléontologie Humaine de Paris).
Et là je laisse les puits de science de VF nous apporter plus de précisions sur les pétroglyphes américains et leur ancienneté.
Je me permets d'ajouter ces quelques conseils glanés sur un site dédié et qui s'appliquent aussi à l'Ouest américain.
A ne pas faire : Gratter, mouiller, écrire, graver... Et ne riez pas : de nombreux "touristes" se croyant certainement très intelligents ont cherché à laisser une trace de leur passage, d'autres ont voulu contraster les gravures pour les prendre en photo. Tous ont irrémédiablement abimé ces vestiges de plusieurs millénaires. .
Bruno
Bonjour
ce fait fait scandale parce qu une video a ete postee sur youtube .... ce n est pas la premiere fois que ce genre de fait arrive et certainement pas la derniere, seulemnt personne ne postait de videoen ligne avant ces derniers comiques )....
les personnes presentes sur la video ont toutes etees identifiees et il y a des poursuite judiciaires ....( il y a encore plus marrant : le gars qui a fait tomber la pierre est en conflit avec son assurance suite a un accident de voiture ou il a abimer son dos et a des restricitions professionnelles suite des problemes physique de dos , la video plait bcp aux assureurs qui voient la une belle piece a conviction pour refuser tout dedomagement.....
ce fait fait scandale parce qu une video a ete postee sur youtube .... ce n est pas la premiere fois que ce genre de fait arrive et certainement pas la derniere, seulemnt personne ne postait de videoen ligne avant ces derniers comiques )....
les personnes presentes sur la video ont toutes etees identifiees et il y a des poursuite judiciaires ....( il y a encore plus marrant : le gars qui a fait tomber la pierre est en conflit avec son assurance suite a un accident de voiture ou il a abimer son dos et a des restricitions professionnelles suite des problemes physique de dos , la video plait bcp aux assureurs qui voient la une belle piece a conviction pour refuser tout dedomagement.....
il y a encore plus marrant : le gars qui a fait tomber la pierre est en conflit avec son assurance suite a un accident de voiture ou il a abimer son dos et a des restricitions professionnelles suite des problemes physique de dos , la video plait bcp aux assureurs qui voient la une belle piece a conviction pour refuser tout dedomagement.....
Bonjour Jean-Luc,
Comme quoi quand on est con, on est con !!! (origine G.Brassens).
où en est le respect des choses, des biens, des personnes ???
Bonne neige à toi, je crois que ça va/doit, être bien beau chez "toi".
à + Jean.
Bonjour Jean-Luc,
Comme quoi quand on est con, on est con !!! (origine G.Brassens).
où en est le respect des choses, des biens, des personnes ???
Bonne neige à toi, je crois que ça va/doit, être bien beau chez "toi".
à + Jean.
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I had planned a trip to Colorado in 2021 but canceled due to COVID, so with time passing and my eldest’s high school graduation approaching fast, I figured it was now or never!
Anyway, the itinerary has been modified and extended to please everyone (I’m no longer the only one making decisions!!)
Here’s our final route: Day 1 - 7/12/2026 - Brussels / Los Angeles Day 2 - 7/13/2026 - Los Angeles Day 3 - 7/14/2026 - Los Angeles Day 4 - 7/15/2026 - Los Angeles Day 5 - 7/16/2026 - Los Angeles Day 6 - 7/17/2026 - Los Angeles / Kingman Day 7 - 7/18/2026 - Kingman / Grand Canyon Day 8 - 7/19/2026 - Grand Canyon / Page Day 9 - 7/20/2026 - Page Day 10 - 7/21/2026 - Page / Monument Valley Day 11 - 7/22/2026 - Monument Valley / Durango Day 12 - 7/23/2026 - Durango Day 13 - 7/24/2026 - Durango Day 14 - 7/25/2026 - Durango Day 15 - 7/26/2026 - Durango / Glenwood Springs Day 16 - 7/27/2026 - Glenwood Springs Day 17 - 7/28/2026 - Glenwood Springs / Moab Day 18 - 7/29/2026 - Moab Day 19 - 7/30/2026 - Moab Day 20 - 7/31/2026 - Moab Day 21 - 8/1/2026 - Moab Day 22 - 8/2/2026 - Moab / Vernal Day 23 - 8/3/2026 - Vernal / Grand Teton Day 24 - 8/4/2026 - Grand Teton Day 25 - 8/5/2026 - Grand Teton / Cody Day 26 - 8/6/2026 - Cody / Yellowstone Day 27 - 8/7/2026 - Yellowstone Day 28 - 8/8/2026 - Yellowstone Day 29 - 8/9/2026 - Yellowstone Day 30 - 8/10/2026 - Yellowstone / Salt Lake City Day 31 - 8/11/2026 - Salt Lake City / Bryce Canyon Day 32 - 8/12/2026 - Bryce Canyon / Zion Day 33 - 8/13/2026 - Zion Day 34 - 8/14/2026 - Zion Day 35 - 8/15/2026 - Zion / Las Vegas Day 36 - 8/16/2026 - Las Vegas Day 37 - 8/17/2026 - Las Vegas / Los Angeles Day 38 - 8/18/2026 - Los Angeles Day 39 - 8/19/2026 - Los Angeles / Brussels Day 40 - 8/20/2026 - Brussels / Home
We’ll be alternating between house swaps, motels, and campgrounds. I’ve booked all the accommodations (except the campground at Bryce since sunset bookings open only 14 days in advance) and the first activities, as well as the most touristy ones.
I’m currently putting together my day-by-day roadbook and having some trouble planning certain days, like in LA or Las Vegas. Choosing hikes isn’t easy either—it’s tough to decide!
We’re really excited but could definitely use your help with choices and optimizations!!
Hello.
I’d like to travel along I-15N from San Diego to Las Vegas with my mom, who’s 67. We’ve explored Northern California and the California Coast over the past two years and now want to continue through the desert.
There are several attractions along the way: - Mormon Rocks - Desert Discovery Center and visit the Old Woman meteorite - Joshua Tree National Park - Mojave Desert - Mojave National Preserve - Anza-Borrego Desert State Park - Silverwood Lake
My mom has back issues that prevent her from hiking or walking on trails with elevation changes. Is it possible to visit these places by car, or are the routes flat enough?
I’d love for her to experience the desert with an itinerary adapted to her condition. I’m also open to other points of interest that aren’t mentioned. We have 3-4 days for the trip, so we’re not in a rush—just want to explore.
Thanks so much. The trip would be in fall 2026
There are several attractions along the way: - Mormon Rocks - Desert Discovery Center and visit the Old Woman meteorite - Joshua Tree National Park - Mojave Desert - Mojave National Preserve - Anza-Borrego Desert State Park - Silverwood Lake
My mom has back issues that prevent her from hiking or walking on trails with elevation changes. Is it possible to visit these places by car, or are the routes flat enough?
I’d love for her to experience the desert with an itinerary adapted to her condition. I’m also open to other points of interest that aren’t mentioned. We have 3-4 days for the trip, so we’re not in a rush—just want to explore.
Thanks so much. The trip would be in fall 2026
Hi there,
I’d love to take a road trip and visit Nova Scotia. I’d appreciate some info on the best cities to see and the most interesting spots. The trip should last about 10 to 15 days, staying in hotels or motels. Thanks in advance!
I’d love to take a road trip and visit Nova Scotia. I’d appreciate some info on the best cities to see and the most interesting spots. The trip should last about 10 to 15 days, staying in hotels or motels. Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
Quick question—I’m heading to New York soon and I’d love to know if you guys have any recommendations for websites where I can buy concert tickets?
Quick question—I’m heading to New York soon and I’d love to know if you guys have any recommendations for websites where I can buy concert tickets?
Hi there,
We’re being relocated to Saint Pierre and Miquelon. We’ll be taking the flight from Nantes to Montreal and then from Montreal to Saint Pierre. Could you recommend a hotel near the departure terminal that allows dogs?
Thanks!
We’re being relocated to Saint Pierre and Miquelon. We’ll be taking the flight from Nantes to Montreal and then from Montreal to Saint Pierre. Could you recommend a hotel near the departure terminal that allows dogs?
Thanks!
Hi,
My 16-year-old son is flying to Grand Rapids with other kids his age. There’s a layover in Detroit. There’s no unaccompanied minor service available. Is it pretty easy to navigate Detroit Airport to catch the connecting flight to Grand Rapids (domestic flight)? There are several of them who speak English well.
Thanks for your replies,
Good evening, everyone! 🙂
Just a few last questions to wrap up our Lake Tahoe visit plans.
**Parking:** We’d like to walk to Eagle Falls and then Eagle Lake. I’ve spotted two parking lots that seem close to each other and give access to the trailhead. Where and how do we pay for entry to Emerald Bay State Park and Inspiration Point?
**Viewpoints on the East Side:** Are most of the viewpoints (Balancing Rock, Granite Cave, Bonsai Rock, etc.) right by the road, or do you have to hike to reach them?
**Donner Memorial State Park:** Is it worth making a detour to Truckee to visit this park and the Truckee historic downtown?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
**Parking:** We’d like to walk to Eagle Falls and then Eagle Lake. I’ve spotted two parking lots that seem close to each other and give access to the trailhead. Where and how do we pay for entry to Emerald Bay State Park and Inspiration Point?
**Viewpoints on the East Side:** Are most of the viewpoints (Balancing Rock, Granite Cave, Bonsai Rock, etc.) right by the road, or do you have to hike to reach them?
**Donner Memorial State Park:** Is it worth making a detour to Truckee to visit this park and the Truckee historic downtown?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
Hi there. I'm shocked by the price of the Upper Antelope Canyon tour—$175 for less than an hour… You might say, "if you can’t afford it…" But the real question is whether it’s really worth it, because $350 for two makes me feel like I’m getting ripped off. For those who’ve done both Lower and Upper, can you tell me if the price difference is really justified? Thanks
Hi everyone! 🙂
As you can see, we're heading back from September 6th to the 27th.
Everything’s booked for September—flights, accommodations, and the car. As I plan, I’ll be asking the experts for help. This is our second trip to California, but most of the stops are new to us.
We’ll start directly from San Francisco to our first overnight stop, Davis, before heading to Lassen Volcanic Park for 4 nights. Our flight lands at 12:50 PM.
Here’s our itinerary: Day 1: Davis – overnight stop Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen) Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes) Day 6: South Lake Tahoe Day 7: South Lake Tahoe Day 8: Mammoth Lake Day 9: Mammoth Lake Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road Day 11: El Portal Day 12: El Portal Day 13: Oakhurst Day 14: Miramonte Day 15: Three Rivers Day 16: Three Rivers Day 17: Coalinga Day 18: Monterey Day 19: Monterey Day 20: San Francisco Day 21: San Francisco Day 22: Departure
For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned: Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2) Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3) Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4) Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)
I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV? Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?
That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening! Marcalamar 🙂
Here’s our itinerary: Day 1: Davis – overnight stop Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen) Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes) Day 6: South Lake Tahoe Day 7: South Lake Tahoe Day 8: Mammoth Lake Day 9: Mammoth Lake Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road Day 11: El Portal Day 12: El Portal Day 13: Oakhurst Day 14: Miramonte Day 15: Three Rivers Day 16: Three Rivers Day 17: Coalinga Day 18: Monterey Day 19: Monterey Day 20: San Francisco Day 21: San Francisco Day 22: Departure
For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned: Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2) Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3) Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4) Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)
I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV? Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?
That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening! Marcalamar 🙂
Here's a tip for future visitors!
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/3-national-parks-slash-red-tape-americans-boldly-transforming-visitor-entry
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/3-national-parks-slash-red-tape-americans-boldly-transforming-visitor-entry
Hi everyone,
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast. I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October. My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips. I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks to everyone for your advice and help.
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast. I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October. My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips. I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks to everyone for your advice and help.
Thanks for advising me on the booking—should I reserve a room in the hotel or go for a cabin for the best view?
Should I get breakfast or not?
What do you think of the restaurant?
Hello, if the off-the-beaten-path enthusiasts are still around 😉, I’d love some info on tackling these trails. I’m not super familiar with the rules, risks, or what to expect—I’m looking for firsthand experience from folks who’ve done it on their own once or multiple times.
Hi everyone!
I’m planning a week-long family trip to NYC in October 2026. The focus is on museums and soaking up the New York vibe. I’ve been checking Airbnb, but the prices in Manhattan are through the roof. Since I don’t know NYC well, is it "wise" to look outside Manhattan? Any neighborhoods you’d recommend?
Hello,
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas) T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC) W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV) F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Christophe
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas) T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC) W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV) F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Christophe
Hi North America forum crew,
Just a little post that might interest some of you:
Travelers to the United States | Photo Now Mandatory Upon Entry and Exit | La Presse
Hi everyone.
I assume many of you already know, but the America the Beautiful annual pass, which was $80, will increase to $250 starting January 1, 2026.
So if you're planning to travel before the end of December 2026, it's in your best interest to buy your pass in December 2025, since it will still cost $80 and be valid until the end of December 2026 if you purchase it in December 2025.
This price increase only applies to non-U.S. residents.
Additionally, for those who planned to visit just one park, a $100 surcharge per person will apply to access a list of 11 national parks... For example, if there are 4 of you in a car, you’ll have to pay $35 + $400, which comes to $435 to visit one of the 11 parks on the list (I don’t have all of them... Bryce, Zion, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.). Total madness.
The goal is to push people who only visit one park into buying the annual pass.
Last point: free entry days are over for non-residents!
That’s all for now.
I assume many of you already know, but the America the Beautiful annual pass, which was $80, will increase to $250 starting January 1, 2026.
So if you're planning to travel before the end of December 2026, it's in your best interest to buy your pass in December 2025, since it will still cost $80 and be valid until the end of December 2026 if you purchase it in December 2025.
This price increase only applies to non-U.S. residents.
Additionally, for those who planned to visit just one park, a $100 surcharge per person will apply to access a list of 11 national parks... For example, if there are 4 of you in a car, you’ll have to pay $35 + $400, which comes to $435 to visit one of the 11 parks on the list (I don’t have all of them... Bryce, Zion, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.). Total madness.
The goal is to push people who only visit one park into buying the annual pass.
Last point: free entry days are over for non-residents!
That’s all for now.
Hi everyone, I’m traveling to Los Angeles and would like to rent a vehicle at the airport. However, I have a Boursobank Ultim deferred debit card, so I’d love to know if it’s possible for those who’ve experienced this recently. Thanks for the info!
Hi VF community,
I’m planning a week in S.F. in April 2026 and I can’t figure out how to tell the cable cars—of which I understand there are three lines—apart from the trams, which I think number seven. I can’t find their individual numbers or routes anywhere.
Could someone shed some light on this for me? Thanks in advance.
Wishing you all a Merry Christmas and a wonderful 2026 full of amazing travels. Cheers, Régine
I’m planning a week in S.F. in April 2026 and I can’t figure out how to tell the cable cars—of which I understand there are three lines—apart from the trams, which I think number seven. I can’t find their individual numbers or routes anywhere.
Could someone shed some light on this for me? Thanks in advance.
Wishing you all a Merry Christmas and a wonderful 2026 full of amazing travels. Cheers, Régine
Hi,
I’m planning a road trip through the American national parks starting from Denver in June 2026.
The price of the pass is jumping from 80 € to 250 € on January 1st, 2026!!!
Is it possible to buy the pass online before the end of the year to lock in the 80 € rate? If so, where and how do I go about it?
Thanks for your tips.
Arnale
Hi there,
I’m planning a road trip for July 2026 in northern Florida. Could you let me know if my itinerary makes sense? Day 1: Orlando Day 2: Amelia Island Day 3: Amelia Island Day 4: Tallahassee Day 5: Panama City Beach Day 6: Panama City Beach (visit to Destin) Day 7: Crystal River (stop in Cedar Key on the way) Day 8: Crystal River Day 9: Anna Maria (stop in Clearwater) Day 10: Anna Maria (St. Pete) Day 11: Anna Maria Day 12: Orlando Day 13: Orlando Day 14: Orlando Day 15: Departure
Thanks in advance for your tips!
I’m planning a road trip for July 2026 in northern Florida. Could you let me know if my itinerary makes sense? Day 1: Orlando Day 2: Amelia Island Day 3: Amelia Island Day 4: Tallahassee Day 5: Panama City Beach Day 6: Panama City Beach (visit to Destin) Day 7: Crystal River (stop in Cedar Key on the way) Day 8: Crystal River Day 9: Anna Maria (stop in Clearwater) Day 10: Anna Maria (St. Pete) Day 11: Anna Maria Day 12: Orlando Day 13: Orlando Day 14: Orlando Day 15: Departure
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Hey everyone!
We just finished 9 days in the American West and wanted to share our experience because we had an amazing time.
I know some of you might ask, why use an agency? Honestly, we didn’t really feel like doing all the driving and planning, especially since we didn’t know the area at all. And since our English isn’t great, having French-speaking guides was a big comfort.
We found Emmanuelle and Isabelle, and wow, they were fantastic. It was just the two of us with them, so it was a truly VIP, ultra-personalized experience. They treated us like royalty from start to finish. These two live in Las Vegas and know the region like the back of their hand. They told us they’ve spent over 15 years exploring every corner of the American West, and it really shows. Their knowledge of geology, park history, and local anecdotes is just impressive. It’s nothing like someone reciting a memorized script. They answer all your questions and really adapt to what you want to see or do.
What we really loved: the vehicle was super comfortable, and the little details made a difference—like snacks and even a homemade cake! Though, to be fair, we devoured the cake right away, so that counts.
Since they know the sites inside out, they took us at the right times to avoid crowds. So we could enjoy peaceful picnics at Grand Canyon viewpoints without being packed in with 200 people. Plus, on top of the must-see spots, they showed us some hidden gems that were absolutely stunning—places we never would’ve found on our own. They’re true locals who know all the best tips.
The service was really personalized. They adapted to our pace and preferences, and we could stop whenever we wanted to take photos. It’s the luxury of being in a small private group—you’re not just a number on a big bus. In short, we really felt like we were traveling with friends rather than professional guides. Everything’s included in the price (hotel pickup, meals, park entries, etc.), so the value for money is fair.
We loved it so much that we’re already planning to come back next year to explore other areas with them. I think we’ve caught the American West bug—it’s all we can think about, and we can’t wait to return.
If you’re looking for a French-speaking tour with real personalized service and guides who know the region like no one else, we highly recommend them. We had unforgettable moments. They also design road trips for those who don’t want a guide. And they handled our hotel reservations in Las Vegas too. If you want genuine advice from friendly locals, we’re giving them a 200% recommendation!
We just finished 9 days in the American West and wanted to share our experience because we had an amazing time.
I know some of you might ask, why use an agency? Honestly, we didn’t really feel like doing all the driving and planning, especially since we didn’t know the area at all. And since our English isn’t great, having French-speaking guides was a big comfort.
We found Emmanuelle and Isabelle, and wow, they were fantastic. It was just the two of us with them, so it was a truly VIP, ultra-personalized experience. They treated us like royalty from start to finish. These two live in Las Vegas and know the region like the back of their hand. They told us they’ve spent over 15 years exploring every corner of the American West, and it really shows. Their knowledge of geology, park history, and local anecdotes is just impressive. It’s nothing like someone reciting a memorized script. They answer all your questions and really adapt to what you want to see or do.
What we really loved: the vehicle was super comfortable, and the little details made a difference—like snacks and even a homemade cake! Though, to be fair, we devoured the cake right away, so that counts.
Since they know the sites inside out, they took us at the right times to avoid crowds. So we could enjoy peaceful picnics at Grand Canyon viewpoints without being packed in with 200 people. Plus, on top of the must-see spots, they showed us some hidden gems that were absolutely stunning—places we never would’ve found on our own. They’re true locals who know all the best tips.
The service was really personalized. They adapted to our pace and preferences, and we could stop whenever we wanted to take photos. It’s the luxury of being in a small private group—you’re not just a number on a big bus. In short, we really felt like we were traveling with friends rather than professional guides. Everything’s included in the price (hotel pickup, meals, park entries, etc.), so the value for money is fair.
We loved it so much that we’re already planning to come back next year to explore other areas with them. I think we’ve caught the American West bug—it’s all we can think about, and we can’t wait to return.
If you’re looking for a French-speaking tour with real personalized service and guides who know the region like no one else, we highly recommend them. We had unforgettable moments. They also design road trips for those who don’t want a guide. And they handled our hotel reservations in Las Vegas too. If you want genuine advice from friendly locals, we’re giving them a 200% recommendation!