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Importer un bateau au Vietnam
by Berpas
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour
Je recherche des informations sur la faisabilité (Conditions) d'importer un bateau au Vietnam. Type vedette rapide 15/18 mètres, 3 cabines, 2x400 ch (d'occasion) pour faire des excursions "pêche au gros"
Pour donner le parfum, ma clientèle serait principalement locale et je connais bien le Vietnam pour y avoir vécu quelques années mais sur ces infos, je sèche lamentablement.
À la limite l'adresse´un yachting club de plaisance si ça existe...
D'avance merci.
Voyager, c'est ne pas avoir peur de remettre en cause ses préjugés et accepter les règles locales sans conditions.
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salut bernard
le moins cher achetez votre bateau sur place.
Bonjour Philippe
Merci mais malheureusement il n'y a rien sur place qui répond a ma demande.
Ci dessous un exemple de ce que je cherche :
Voyager, c'est ne pas avoir peur de remettre en cause ses préjugés et accepter les règles locales sans conditions.
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Tous ceux qui se sont lance dans les activites nautiques, voile ou moteur, ont jete l eponge.
Ca vous parait pas etre qu il n y ai AUCUN club de plaisance au Vietnam ?
La faute a des autorites totalement incompetenteset qui rackettaient les plasanciers. Resultat tout le monde est parti.
Ca vous parait pas etre qu il n y ai AUCUN club de plaisance au Vietnam ?
La faute a des autorites totalement incompetenteset qui rackettaient les plasanciers. Resultat tout le monde est parti.
Tous ceux qui se sont lance dans les activites nautiques, voile ou moteur, ont jete l eponge.
Ca vous parait pas etre qu il n y ai AUCUN club de plaisance au Vietnam ?
La faute a des autorites totalement incompetenteset qui rackettaient les plasanciers. Resultat tout le monde est parti.
Pour moi, ce n'est pas une raison suffisante... je n'y vais pas à l'aveugle et j'ai déjà plusieurs expériences au Vietnam. Bien sur qu'il faut intégrer le coût les autorités locales autrement, comme c'est voué a l'échec avant de commencer. Ensuite il faut avoir des entrées avec des hautes pointures locales pour pérenniser l'affaire au cas ou un subalterne deviendrait trop gourmand... Je conviens que cela n'est pas à la portée du premier venu qui désire entreprendre au Vietnam mais actuellement, il n'y a pas d'autres façons de faire. Mon approche est différente car elle ne s'adresse pas ou peu aux touristes qui ne vont pas au Vietnam pour faire ce genre d'activité. A part ca, j'ai déjà remarqué deux vedettes de ce type au large de Nha Trang... et même un voilier donc, la possibilité existe... reste à trouver la base des taxes d'importation c'est juste de ca que j'ai besoin.
Ca vous parait pas etre qu il n y ai AUCUN club de plaisance au Vietnam ?
La faute a des autorites totalement incompetenteset qui rackettaient les plasanciers. Resultat tout le monde est parti.
Pour moi, ce n'est pas une raison suffisante... je n'y vais pas à l'aveugle et j'ai déjà plusieurs expériences au Vietnam. Bien sur qu'il faut intégrer le coût les autorités locales autrement, comme c'est voué a l'échec avant de commencer. Ensuite il faut avoir des entrées avec des hautes pointures locales pour pérenniser l'affaire au cas ou un subalterne deviendrait trop gourmand... Je conviens que cela n'est pas à la portée du premier venu qui désire entreprendre au Vietnam mais actuellement, il n'y a pas d'autres façons de faire. Mon approche est différente car elle ne s'adresse pas ou peu aux touristes qui ne vont pas au Vietnam pour faire ce genre d'activité. A part ca, j'ai déjà remarqué deux vedettes de ce type au large de Nha Trang... et même un voilier donc, la possibilité existe... reste à trouver la base des taxes d'importation c'est juste de ca que j'ai besoin.
Voyager, c'est ne pas avoir peur de remettre en cause ses préjugés et accepter les règles locales sans conditions.
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Il y a tout de même un fait invraisemblable, c'est que le pays a 3500 km de côtes et je ne me souviens pas d'avoir vu une seule marina. Je me demande aussi, à la limite, si un étranger a le droit de posséder un bateau de plaisance ici. Je n'en suis pas si sûr que ça !
Ceci dit, je penserais qu'un bateau de ce genre vous coûterait peut-être moins cher en Thailande, où on trouve de tout ; c'est à vérifier
Ceci dit, je penserais qu'un bateau de ce genre vous coûterait peut-être moins cher en Thailande, où on trouve de tout ; c'est à vérifier
Méfiez-vous de la vie, car les ratés ne vous rateront pas!
Bonjour Jacques
Le droit de possession n'est pas un problème car il serait la propriété d´une société de droit Vietnamienne.
Ce côté des choses ne me pose pas de problème de même que le permis bateau (du moins en première approche) mais de toute façon ça ne serait pas moi aux commandes car mon expérience en navigation (au vietnam) se limite à une barque à rames sur un lac pour mes photos de mariage.
Pour ces types de bateaux, on en trouve en Thaïlande mais toujours orienté vedette de croisière et non pêche et les ponts arrières ne sont pas prévus de même que la plate forme d'observation en hauteur et je n'ai pas envie de faire bricoler des choses ! Pour finir, suite a la crise Européenne, je connais quelqu'un qui a énormément de mal à le revendre et le prix serait abordable pour moi mais reste à évaluer localement le prix d'importation car je ne pourrais pas tripler la mise en ajoutant de surcroît le transport.
Pour Info, j'ai observé quelques bateaux de tourisme du côté de Nha Trang (beaucoup plus petit) donc la procédure doit exister. Il y a également un salon du nautisme en Chine équivalent local de celui de Monaco mais la on traite d'unités de grand luxe quasi sur "dé"mesure !
Pour ces types de bateaux, on en trouve en Thaïlande mais toujours orienté vedette de croisière et non pêche et les ponts arrières ne sont pas prévus de même que la plate forme d'observation en hauteur et je n'ai pas envie de faire bricoler des choses ! Pour finir, suite a la crise Européenne, je connais quelqu'un qui a énormément de mal à le revendre et le prix serait abordable pour moi mais reste à évaluer localement le prix d'importation car je ne pourrais pas tripler la mise en ajoutant de surcroît le transport.
Pour Info, j'ai observé quelques bateaux de tourisme du côté de Nha Trang (beaucoup plus petit) donc la procédure doit exister. Il y a également un salon du nautisme en Chine équivalent local de celui de Monaco mais la on traite d'unités de grand luxe quasi sur "dé"mesure !
Voyager, c'est ne pas avoir peur de remettre en cause ses préjugés et accepter les règles locales sans conditions.
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Pour ceux a qui ca intéresse, je partage ce que j'ai trouvé. Reste les coûts et taxes diverses + les frais de douane à évaluer.
Il me faut exploiter les informations de ce site http://www.vpa.org.vn/english/regulations/Imex-custom.htm qui devrait me permettre d'en apprendre beaucoup.
Pour l'info principale tout est ici :
DECREE No.91-CP OF AUGUST 23,1997 OF THE GOVERNMENT ISSUING THE REGULATION ON THE REGISTRATION OF SEA-GOING SHIPS AND CREWS THE GOVERNMENT
Pursuant to the Law on Organization of the Government of September 30,1992; Pursuant to the Maritime Code of Vietnam of June 30,1990; At the proposal of the Minister of Communications and Transport, DECREES:
Article 1: To issue together with this Decree the Regulation on the Registration of Sea-going Ships and Crews”.
Article 2: This Decree takes effect 15 days after its signing and replaces Decree No. 14-CP of February 25, 1994 of the Government. The provisions on the registration of sea-going ships and crew which are contrary to the Regulation issued together with this Decree are now annulled. The Minister of Communications and Transport and the Minister of Aquatic Resources shall have to guide and supervise the implementation of the “Regulation on the Registration of Sea-going Ships and Crews” issued together with this Decree.
Article 3: The Ministers, the heads of the ministerial-level agencies, the heads of the agencies attached to the Government, the presidents of the People’s Committees of the provinces and cities directly under the Central Government shall have to implement this Decree. On behalf of the GovernmentFor the Prime MinisterDeputy Prime MinisterTRAN DUC LUONG -- REGULATION ON THE REGISTRATION OF SEA-GOING SHIPS AND CREWS(issued together with Decree No.91-CP of August 23, 1997 of the Government)Chapter IGENERAL PROVISIONS
Article 1: This Regulation prescribes the principles for organizing the registration of sea-going ships and crews in Vietnam and the overseas registration of sea-going ships under the ownership of Vietnam.
Article 2: 1. The following kinds of se-going ships must be registered under this Regulation:
a) Motorized sea-going ships with the main engine’s capacity of 75/CV or more; b) Sea-going ships without motor but having a total tonnage of 50 GRT or more or a capacity of 100 DWT or more or a design water length of 20 meters or more; c) Sea-going ships which are smaller than those described in Point a and Point b of this Clause but operate on overseas routes; d) Sea-going ships used only for fishing, processing and domestic transport or aquatic and marine products.
2. Sea-going ships used only for military and security purposes under the management of the Ministry of Defense and the Ministry of the Interior and their crews shall be registered under a separate regulation and not subject to this Regulation.
Article 3: 1. All ship owners can operate their ships only after they have completed the registration of their ships and crews in accordance with this Regulation and relevant provisions of Vietnamese law. A ship owner mentioned herein means a legal persons or an individual that owns and registers a ship under his/her/its name in accordance with Vietnamese law.
2. The State of Vietnam protects all lawful interests of ship owners from the time their ships are registered till the time such registration is deleted.
3. All ship owners are obliged to manage and commercially use their sea-going ships already registered in Vietnam in accordance with Vietnamese law and pay a registration fee according to the regulations of the Ministry of Finance and current provisions of law.
Article 4: 1. The Ministry of Communications and Transport (the Vietnam Maritime Department) shall provide for the organization and operation of its attached registry of sea-going ships and crews; be responsible for registering sea-going ships described in Point d, Clause 1, Article 2 of this Regulation.
2. The Ministry of Aquatic Resources shall provide for the organization and operation of its attached registry of sea-going ships and crews; be responsible for registering those sea-going ships described in Point d, Clause 1, Article 2 of this Regulation.
Article 5: The registries of sea-going ships and crews that operate in various regions in accordance with the stipulations and assignment of the Heads of the agencies stated in Article of this Regulation (regional registries of sea-going ships and crews for short). These registries shall have to establish and manage the “regional registration book of sea-going ships”, and perform other tasks in their specialized fields of State management authorized by the competent level. Chapter IIREGISTRATION OF SEA-GOING SHIPS Section A. CONDITIONS FOR REGISTRATION OF SEA-GOING SHIPS
Article 6: A seagoing ship shall be registered in Vietnam’s national registration book of sea-going ships if it satisfies the following conditions
1. It no longer bears a foreign registration;
2. It has been technically inspected, categorized, has its tonnage measured and has been granted the necessary certificates corresponding to its category, kind and use purposes by “Dang Kiem Vietnam” (the Vietnam Ship Registry) or a competent registry of sea-going ships; 3. For a used ship of a foreign country which applies for first-time registration or re-registration in Vietnam, it must not be more than 15 years old. In special cases, permission from the Prime Minister shall be required;
4. It must be owned by a Vietnamese organization having its main office in Vietnam or by a Vietnamese citizen permanently residing in Vietnam;
5. It must have its own name given by its owner and approved by the registry of sea-going ships and crews. In cases a ship is named after a historical figure, event or place, a written approval of the Minister of Communications and Transport or the Minister of Aquatic Resources (if the ship is used exclusively for aquatic resources service) is required.
6. Ship owners shall have to commit themselves not to use their ships for unlawful purposes or to affect the interests and prestige of the State of Vietnam.
Article 7: Sea-going ships owned by joint venture enterprises with 100% of foreign invested capital which have been established and operating under the Law on Foreign Investment in Vietnam may be registered in Vietnam if they satisfy all the conditions prescribed in Clauses 1,2,3,5 and 6, Article 6 of this Regulation. Article 8: 1. Sea-going ships owned by foreign organizations or individuals may be registered in Vietnam if they satisfy the conditions prescribed in Clauses 1,2,3,5, and 6, Article 6 of this Regulation.
2. Sea-going ships owned by foreign organizations or individuals and hired by Vietnamese enterprises or individuals under bare-boat charter parties or leasing contracts may be registered in Vietnam if they satisfy all the conditions prescribed in Clauses 1,2,3,5, and 6, Article 6 of this Regulation.
Section B. ORDER AND PROCEDURES FOR SEA-GOING SHIP REGISTRATION
Article 9: 1. All ships-owners are obliged to register their ships at the regional registry of sea-going ships and crews.
2. At the same point of time each sea-going ship is allowed to register at only one registry of sea-going ships and crews.
Article 10: When filling the registration procedures, a ship-owner shall have to submit and produce the originals (or copies authenticated by competent State agencies) of the following papers:
1. Papers to be submitted (one copy each):
-The application for sea-going ship registration together with the commitment stated in Clauses 6, Article 6 of this Regulation; -The certificate of deletion of the former registration (for a used ship); or the certificate issued by the foreign registry where the ship is registered of the ship’s temporary discontinuation of its original registration during the period it is leased under a bare-boat charter party or a leasing contract. -The ship’s building contract or a contract for the transfer of the ownership over the ship; -The permit for purchase of the ship issued by a competent State agency (for a ship purchased from abroad); -The certificate of the ship’s category; the certificate of the ship’s seaworthiness and the certificate of the ship’s tonnage; -The certificate related to the actual status of the ownership over the ship; -The certificate related to the actual status of the ownership over the ship; -The certificate of payment of registration fee (if any).
2. Papers to be produced:
-The ship’s technical safety dossier issued by the registry of shipping; -The permit for use of the ship’s radio issued by a competent post agency (if the ship is equipped with a radio receiving and transmitting station); -Other certificates of the right to use and exploit sea-going ships, issued by the competent State management agency of Vietnam in accordance with the provisions of law; -The insurance contract for the ship-owner’s civil liability.
Article 11: 1. Within 07 days from the date of receipt of the full dossier described in Article 10 of this Regulation, the regional registry of sea-going ships and crews shall complete the procedures for recording the ship into the “ regional registration book of sea-going ship registration certificate” (according to the form applicable throughout the country) to the ship owner. In case the registration conditions are not fully met or the dossier applying for ship registration is invalid, it shall promptly inform the ship owner thereof.
2. Not later than 03 days from the date the “ship registration certificate” is granted, the ship shall be recorded in the “national registration book of sea-going ships” of Vietnam.
3. Both the ship- owner and ship-master are obliged to preserve and keep all the time on board the “sea-going ship registration certificate” issued by the registry of sea-going ships and crews. If the “sea going ship registration certificate” is lost, damaged or has the ship’s name, callback, technical specifications changed, the ship-owner must fill the procedures for re-issue. The “sea-going ship registration certificate” which is re-issue in the above-mentioned cases must retain the registration number and date recorded in the last certificate.
Article 12: Right after a sea-going ship is registered, the ship-owner shall be entitled and obliged to fly the Vietnamese flag on board the ship; and, at the same time, paint on the ship its name, the name of the place where the ship is registered and the logo of Vietnamese ships. The logo of Vietnamese ships mentioned in this Article shall comply with the guidances of the registry of sea-going ships and crews.
Section C. CHANGE OF THE SHIP’S NAME, RE-REGISTRATION AND CHANGE OF THE PLACE OF REGISTRATION
Article 13: In case of change of a ship’s name, the ship owner shall have to make an application clearly stating the reason. The registry of sea-going ships and crews where the ship is registered shall consider for re-issue of the “ sea-going ship registration certificate” not later than 05 days after receiving the valid dossier.
Article 14: 1. In case of re-registration, the registry of sea-going ships and crews where the ship was previously registered shall base itself on the old dossier and the re-registration application as well as the dossier of the ship-owner to re-issue the “sea-going ship registration certificate”.
2. When the ship-owner is replaced under a contract for transfer of the ownership over the ship or the ship’s registration is moved from one to another registry in Vietnam, the registration order and procedures shall comply with the provisions in Section B, Chapter II of this Regulation.
Section D. PROCEDURES FOR REGISTRATION DELETION
Article 15: 1. The registration of a Vietnamese sea-going ship shall be automatically deleted from the “national registration book of sea-going ships” in the following cases:
a) The ship is destroyed or sinks and the agency for investigation of maritime accidents has certified that the ship has virtually lost its seaworthiness;
b) The ship is considered missing when it has completely lost contact with the ship-owner for a time twice longer than the time necessary for the ship to go from the place where the ship-owner receives the last information from the ship to the destination port under normal circumstances. However, such period of time shall not be less than 30 days or exceed 90 days after receipt of the last information from the ship. In war time, this time limit may be longer but must not exceed 180 days.
c) The ship is irreparably damaged or uneconomically reparable because the repair cost may exceed the actual value of the ship before the journey or the repair cannot made on the spot and it is impossible to move the ship to another place for repair;
d) The ship has no more basis and conditions for bearing Vietnamese nationality under this Regulation;
e) The ship is no longer a sea-going ship as it has lost its basic technical specifications under current sea-going ship designing and building criteria.
2. The registration of a Vietnamese sea-going ship may be deleted from the “national registration book of sea-going ships” at the proposal of the ship-owner when the ownership transfer is effected or the ship is moved abroad for registration.
Article 16: The ship-owner shall have to make an application clearly stating the reason for such registration deletion according to the provisions in Article 15 of this Regulation. The regional registry of sea-going ships and crews shall verify the veracity of the application for registration deletion before issuing a “registration deletion certificate” within 07 days after receiving the application; not later than 03 days from the date of issuing such certificate, it has to delete the ship’s name from the “national registration book of sea-going ships”.
Section E. PROCEDURES FOR REGISTERING THE PLEDGE, MORTGAGE AND MARITIME LIEN ON SEA-GOING SHIPS
Article 17: 1. The order and procedures for the pledge, mortgage of or maritime lien on sea-going ships shall comply with the provisions of Vietnam’s Maritime Code and relevant provisions of Vietnamese law.
2. The pledge, mortgage of or more maritime lien on a sea-going ship must be registered at the regional registry of sea-going ships and crews where such ship is registered and be recorded in the “national registration book of sea-going ships”.
3. Once the pledge, mortgage of or maritime lien on a sea-going ship has been registered, the regional registry of sea-going ships and crews where the ship is registered shall issue a certificate of such pledge, mortgage or maritime lien.
Article 18: 1. In case a ship is pledge, mortgaged or subject to maritime lien, the mortgagor, pledger or the person requesting maritime lien on the ship shall promptly in form in writing the regional registry of sea-going ships and crews where such ship is registered thereof to record it in the “national registration book of sea-going ships”.
2. The pledge, mortgage of or maritime lien on a sea-going ship shall cease to be effective only under the provisions of law or after the pledger, mortgagor or maritime lienor of the ship requests in writing the cancellation thereof.
3. The order for registering the pledge, mortgage of or maritime lien on a sea-going ship in the “national registration book of sea-going ships” shall serve as the basis for determining the priority order for settling related disputes.
4. Upon a lawful request, the Registry of sea-going ships and crews shall be responsible for supplying the information on the situation of the ownership of the registered ship to the requesting organization or individual.
Article 19: 1. An organization or individual that wishes to register the pledge, mortgage of or maritime lien on a sea-going ship shall have to submit to the Registry of sea-going ships and crews where the ship is registered the following papers:
-The application for registration of the pledge, mortgage of or maritime lien on the sea-going ship; -The contract for the mortgage or pledge of the sea-going ship or the document on the maritime lien on the sea-going ship (if they are copies, they must be certified by a competent agency).
2. Within 7 days from the date of receipt of all the papers mentioned in Clause 1 of this Article, the regional Registry of sea-going ships and crews where the ship is registered shall grant the certificate due to the lack of conditions or has not yet issued it for a plausible reason, it shall have to promptly inform the concerned organization or individual thereof.
3. The registry of sea-going ships and crew shall be entitled to collect fees on the registration of pledge, mortgage or maritime lien according to the regulations of the Ministry of Finance.
Section F. OVERSEAS REGISTRATION OF SEA-GOING SHIPS OWNED BY VIETNAMESE ORGANIZATIONS OR INDIVIDUALS
Article 20: 1. A sea-going ship owned by a Vietnamese organization having its head office in Vietnam or by a Vietnamese citizen permanently residing in Vietnam may be permitted to be registered abroad if it satisfies the following conditions:
a) The ship is exploited under a bare-boat charter party or a leasing contract signed between the Vietnamese ship-owner and a foreign organization or individual;
b) The registration of the ship in a foreign country is approved by a competent agency of such foreign country while the ownership of the Vietnamese ship-owner is retained;
c) The ship-owner shall have to commit himself to fulfilling all the obligations prescribed by Vietnamese law.
2. The permission for the overseas registration of a sea-going ship owned by a Vietnamese organization or individual shall be decided by the Minister of Communications and Transport or the Minister of Aquatic Resources (if the sea-going ship is used only for the aquatic resources service).
Article 21: 1. Before registering abroad a ship which has been already registered in Vietnam, the ship-owner hall have to make an application for registration deletion or ask fro permission to temporarily cease the registration in the “national registration book of sea-going ships”.
2. The Registry of sea-going ships and crews where the ship is registered shall delete the registration and grant a “registration deletion certificate” to the Vietnamese sea-going ship to be registered abroad and at the same time promptly in form the Registry of sea-going ships and crews so that it deletes the ship’s name in the “national registration book of sea-going ships”.
Article 22: The application of laws to settling issues related to sea-going ships provided for in Article 20 of this Regulation shall be carried out on the following principles:
1. Vietnamese law shall apply to settling issues related to the ownership of sea-going ships.
2. Laws of the foreign country where the ship is registered shall apply only to settling issues related to the right to use and management of the hip on the basis of the bare-boat charter party or a leasing contract. Chapter IIIREGISTRATION OF CREW
Article 23: Vietnamese sea-going ships shall be allowed to conduct maritime operations according to the registered purposes only when the ship’s complement is arranged in accordance with the provisions of this Regulation and relevant provisions of Vietnamese law.
Article 24: 1. Only those Vietnamese citizens who have fitting health conditions and certificates of maritime qualifications under the provisions of Vietnamese law are allowed to work on sea-going ships.
2. Foreign crews are allowed to work on Vietnamese sea-going ships owned by joint venture enterprises with foreign parties in Vietnam, but a total number shall not exceed one-third of the complement of each ship and the ship-captain or assistant ship-captain must be a Vietnamese citizen.
3. Foreign crews mentioned in Clause 2 of this Article must have fitting health conditions and certificates of maritime navigation qualifications under Vietnamese law. The various certificates of maritime navigation qualifications granted to foreign crews by foreign competent agencies shall be recognized only when it is clearly written in such certificates that they are granted under relevant international agreements which Vietnam has signed or acceded to.
Article 25: 1. The ship-owner shall be responsible for arranging the complement on the ship in accordance with the provisions of law and such complement must be registered at the Registry of sea-going ships and crews where the ship is registered.
2. The Registry of sea-going ships and crews where the ship is registered shall be responsible for inspecting the arrangement of the complement by the ship-owner and fill procedures for registering such complement in the “list of crew” book issued to the ship. If the complement is improperly arranged, it shall have to promptly request the ship-owner to rearrange it in accordance with the provisions of law.
Article 26: 1. The Registry of sea-going ships and crews shall be responsible for issuing passports to the crews who are Vietnamese citizens working on Vietnamese sea-going ships operating on overseas routes.
2. The dossier applying for a crew member’s passport includes:
a) Personal applications for passport; b) A brief resume certified by the ship-owner and 2 photos of 4x6 cm size; c) Copies of the crew member’s qualifications certificates certified by a competent State agency; d) The decision of the ship-owner to appoint the crew member to work on board the ship operating on overseas routes.
3. The ship-owner shall be fully responsible for his/her decisions to appoint crew member to work on board the ship operating on overseas routes.
Article 27: 1. The valid duration of a crew member’s passport shall be written in the passport. The extension of the passport, change of the ship’s name and the crew member’s title written in the passport shall be effected by the Registry of se-going ships and crews where the ship is registered on the basis of the ship-owner’s decision to transfer (or change the title of) the crew member.
2. The use and preservation of the crew’s passports shall comply with the provisions of law.
3. Only the ship-owner, crew and organizations that hire crews in Vietnam may apply for crew’s passports.
Article 28: The Ministry of Aquatic Resources shall provide for the procedures for registration of the crew working on sea-going ships which are used only in the aquatic resources service. Chapter IVHANDLING OF VIOLATIONS
Article 29: 1. All violations of the regulations on the registration of sea-going ships and crews provided for in this Regulation shall be handled in accordance with the provisions of law.
2. All complaints and denunciations of organizations and individuals related to violations of the regulations on the registration of sea-going ships and crews provided for in this Regulation shall be settled in accordance with the provisions of law. On behalf of the GovernmentFor the Prime MinisterDeputy Prime MinisterTRAN DUC LUONG
Pour l'info principale tout est ici :
DECREE No.91-CP OF AUGUST 23,1997 OF THE GOVERNMENT ISSUING THE REGULATION ON THE REGISTRATION OF SEA-GOING SHIPS AND CREWS THE GOVERNMENT
Pursuant to the Law on Organization of the Government of September 30,1992; Pursuant to the Maritime Code of Vietnam of June 30,1990; At the proposal of the Minister of Communications and Transport, DECREES:
Article 1: To issue together with this Decree the Regulation on the Registration of Sea-going Ships and Crews”.
Article 2: This Decree takes effect 15 days after its signing and replaces Decree No. 14-CP of February 25, 1994 of the Government. The provisions on the registration of sea-going ships and crew which are contrary to the Regulation issued together with this Decree are now annulled. The Minister of Communications and Transport and the Minister of Aquatic Resources shall have to guide and supervise the implementation of the “Regulation on the Registration of Sea-going Ships and Crews” issued together with this Decree.
Article 3: The Ministers, the heads of the ministerial-level agencies, the heads of the agencies attached to the Government, the presidents of the People’s Committees of the provinces and cities directly under the Central Government shall have to implement this Decree. On behalf of the GovernmentFor the Prime MinisterDeputy Prime MinisterTRAN DUC LUONG -- REGULATION ON THE REGISTRATION OF SEA-GOING SHIPS AND CREWS(issued together with Decree No.91-CP of August 23, 1997 of the Government)Chapter IGENERAL PROVISIONS
Article 1: This Regulation prescribes the principles for organizing the registration of sea-going ships and crews in Vietnam and the overseas registration of sea-going ships under the ownership of Vietnam.
Article 2: 1. The following kinds of se-going ships must be registered under this Regulation:
a) Motorized sea-going ships with the main engine’s capacity of 75/CV or more; b) Sea-going ships without motor but having a total tonnage of 50 GRT or more or a capacity of 100 DWT or more or a design water length of 20 meters or more; c) Sea-going ships which are smaller than those described in Point a and Point b of this Clause but operate on overseas routes; d) Sea-going ships used only for fishing, processing and domestic transport or aquatic and marine products.
2. Sea-going ships used only for military and security purposes under the management of the Ministry of Defense and the Ministry of the Interior and their crews shall be registered under a separate regulation and not subject to this Regulation.
Article 3: 1. All ship owners can operate their ships only after they have completed the registration of their ships and crews in accordance with this Regulation and relevant provisions of Vietnamese law. A ship owner mentioned herein means a legal persons or an individual that owns and registers a ship under his/her/its name in accordance with Vietnamese law.
2. The State of Vietnam protects all lawful interests of ship owners from the time their ships are registered till the time such registration is deleted.
3. All ship owners are obliged to manage and commercially use their sea-going ships already registered in Vietnam in accordance with Vietnamese law and pay a registration fee according to the regulations of the Ministry of Finance and current provisions of law.
Article 4: 1. The Ministry of Communications and Transport (the Vietnam Maritime Department) shall provide for the organization and operation of its attached registry of sea-going ships and crews; be responsible for registering sea-going ships described in Point d, Clause 1, Article 2 of this Regulation.
2. The Ministry of Aquatic Resources shall provide for the organization and operation of its attached registry of sea-going ships and crews; be responsible for registering those sea-going ships described in Point d, Clause 1, Article 2 of this Regulation.
Article 5: The registries of sea-going ships and crews that operate in various regions in accordance with the stipulations and assignment of the Heads of the agencies stated in Article of this Regulation (regional registries of sea-going ships and crews for short). These registries shall have to establish and manage the “regional registration book of sea-going ships”, and perform other tasks in their specialized fields of State management authorized by the competent level. Chapter IIREGISTRATION OF SEA-GOING SHIPS Section A. CONDITIONS FOR REGISTRATION OF SEA-GOING SHIPS
Article 6: A seagoing ship shall be registered in Vietnam’s national registration book of sea-going ships if it satisfies the following conditions
1. It no longer bears a foreign registration;
2. It has been technically inspected, categorized, has its tonnage measured and has been granted the necessary certificates corresponding to its category, kind and use purposes by “Dang Kiem Vietnam” (the Vietnam Ship Registry) or a competent registry of sea-going ships; 3. For a used ship of a foreign country which applies for first-time registration or re-registration in Vietnam, it must not be more than 15 years old. In special cases, permission from the Prime Minister shall be required;
4. It must be owned by a Vietnamese organization having its main office in Vietnam or by a Vietnamese citizen permanently residing in Vietnam;
5. It must have its own name given by its owner and approved by the registry of sea-going ships and crews. In cases a ship is named after a historical figure, event or place, a written approval of the Minister of Communications and Transport or the Minister of Aquatic Resources (if the ship is used exclusively for aquatic resources service) is required.
6. Ship owners shall have to commit themselves not to use their ships for unlawful purposes or to affect the interests and prestige of the State of Vietnam.
Article 7: Sea-going ships owned by joint venture enterprises with 100% of foreign invested capital which have been established and operating under the Law on Foreign Investment in Vietnam may be registered in Vietnam if they satisfy all the conditions prescribed in Clauses 1,2,3,5 and 6, Article 6 of this Regulation. Article 8: 1. Sea-going ships owned by foreign organizations or individuals may be registered in Vietnam if they satisfy the conditions prescribed in Clauses 1,2,3,5, and 6, Article 6 of this Regulation.
2. Sea-going ships owned by foreign organizations or individuals and hired by Vietnamese enterprises or individuals under bare-boat charter parties or leasing contracts may be registered in Vietnam if they satisfy all the conditions prescribed in Clauses 1,2,3,5, and 6, Article 6 of this Regulation.
Section B. ORDER AND PROCEDURES FOR SEA-GOING SHIP REGISTRATION
Article 9: 1. All ships-owners are obliged to register their ships at the regional registry of sea-going ships and crews.
2. At the same point of time each sea-going ship is allowed to register at only one registry of sea-going ships and crews.
Article 10: When filling the registration procedures, a ship-owner shall have to submit and produce the originals (or copies authenticated by competent State agencies) of the following papers:
1. Papers to be submitted (one copy each):
-The application for sea-going ship registration together with the commitment stated in Clauses 6, Article 6 of this Regulation; -The certificate of deletion of the former registration (for a used ship); or the certificate issued by the foreign registry where the ship is registered of the ship’s temporary discontinuation of its original registration during the period it is leased under a bare-boat charter party or a leasing contract. -The ship’s building contract or a contract for the transfer of the ownership over the ship; -The permit for purchase of the ship issued by a competent State agency (for a ship purchased from abroad); -The certificate of the ship’s category; the certificate of the ship’s seaworthiness and the certificate of the ship’s tonnage; -The certificate related to the actual status of the ownership over the ship; -The certificate related to the actual status of the ownership over the ship; -The certificate of payment of registration fee (if any).
2. Papers to be produced:
-The ship’s technical safety dossier issued by the registry of shipping; -The permit for use of the ship’s radio issued by a competent post agency (if the ship is equipped with a radio receiving and transmitting station); -Other certificates of the right to use and exploit sea-going ships, issued by the competent State management agency of Vietnam in accordance with the provisions of law; -The insurance contract for the ship-owner’s civil liability.
Article 11: 1. Within 07 days from the date of receipt of the full dossier described in Article 10 of this Regulation, the regional registry of sea-going ships and crews shall complete the procedures for recording the ship into the “ regional registration book of sea-going ship registration certificate” (according to the form applicable throughout the country) to the ship owner. In case the registration conditions are not fully met or the dossier applying for ship registration is invalid, it shall promptly inform the ship owner thereof.
2. Not later than 03 days from the date the “ship registration certificate” is granted, the ship shall be recorded in the “national registration book of sea-going ships” of Vietnam.
3. Both the ship- owner and ship-master are obliged to preserve and keep all the time on board the “sea-going ship registration certificate” issued by the registry of sea-going ships and crews. If the “sea going ship registration certificate” is lost, damaged or has the ship’s name, callback, technical specifications changed, the ship-owner must fill the procedures for re-issue. The “sea-going ship registration certificate” which is re-issue in the above-mentioned cases must retain the registration number and date recorded in the last certificate.
Article 12: Right after a sea-going ship is registered, the ship-owner shall be entitled and obliged to fly the Vietnamese flag on board the ship; and, at the same time, paint on the ship its name, the name of the place where the ship is registered and the logo of Vietnamese ships. The logo of Vietnamese ships mentioned in this Article shall comply with the guidances of the registry of sea-going ships and crews.
Section C. CHANGE OF THE SHIP’S NAME, RE-REGISTRATION AND CHANGE OF THE PLACE OF REGISTRATION
Article 13: In case of change of a ship’s name, the ship owner shall have to make an application clearly stating the reason. The registry of sea-going ships and crews where the ship is registered shall consider for re-issue of the “ sea-going ship registration certificate” not later than 05 days after receiving the valid dossier.
Article 14: 1. In case of re-registration, the registry of sea-going ships and crews where the ship was previously registered shall base itself on the old dossier and the re-registration application as well as the dossier of the ship-owner to re-issue the “sea-going ship registration certificate”.
2. When the ship-owner is replaced under a contract for transfer of the ownership over the ship or the ship’s registration is moved from one to another registry in Vietnam, the registration order and procedures shall comply with the provisions in Section B, Chapter II of this Regulation.
Section D. PROCEDURES FOR REGISTRATION DELETION
Article 15: 1. The registration of a Vietnamese sea-going ship shall be automatically deleted from the “national registration book of sea-going ships” in the following cases:
a) The ship is destroyed or sinks and the agency for investigation of maritime accidents has certified that the ship has virtually lost its seaworthiness;
b) The ship is considered missing when it has completely lost contact with the ship-owner for a time twice longer than the time necessary for the ship to go from the place where the ship-owner receives the last information from the ship to the destination port under normal circumstances. However, such period of time shall not be less than 30 days or exceed 90 days after receipt of the last information from the ship. In war time, this time limit may be longer but must not exceed 180 days.
c) The ship is irreparably damaged or uneconomically reparable because the repair cost may exceed the actual value of the ship before the journey or the repair cannot made on the spot and it is impossible to move the ship to another place for repair;
d) The ship has no more basis and conditions for bearing Vietnamese nationality under this Regulation;
e) The ship is no longer a sea-going ship as it has lost its basic technical specifications under current sea-going ship designing and building criteria.
2. The registration of a Vietnamese sea-going ship may be deleted from the “national registration book of sea-going ships” at the proposal of the ship-owner when the ownership transfer is effected or the ship is moved abroad for registration.
Article 16: The ship-owner shall have to make an application clearly stating the reason for such registration deletion according to the provisions in Article 15 of this Regulation. The regional registry of sea-going ships and crews shall verify the veracity of the application for registration deletion before issuing a “registration deletion certificate” within 07 days after receiving the application; not later than 03 days from the date of issuing such certificate, it has to delete the ship’s name from the “national registration book of sea-going ships”.
Section E. PROCEDURES FOR REGISTERING THE PLEDGE, MORTGAGE AND MARITIME LIEN ON SEA-GOING SHIPS
Article 17: 1. The order and procedures for the pledge, mortgage of or maritime lien on sea-going ships shall comply with the provisions of Vietnam’s Maritime Code and relevant provisions of Vietnamese law.
2. The pledge, mortgage of or more maritime lien on a sea-going ship must be registered at the regional registry of sea-going ships and crews where such ship is registered and be recorded in the “national registration book of sea-going ships”.
3. Once the pledge, mortgage of or maritime lien on a sea-going ship has been registered, the regional registry of sea-going ships and crews where the ship is registered shall issue a certificate of such pledge, mortgage or maritime lien.
Article 18: 1. In case a ship is pledge, mortgaged or subject to maritime lien, the mortgagor, pledger or the person requesting maritime lien on the ship shall promptly in form in writing the regional registry of sea-going ships and crews where such ship is registered thereof to record it in the “national registration book of sea-going ships”.
2. The pledge, mortgage of or maritime lien on a sea-going ship shall cease to be effective only under the provisions of law or after the pledger, mortgagor or maritime lienor of the ship requests in writing the cancellation thereof.
3. The order for registering the pledge, mortgage of or maritime lien on a sea-going ship in the “national registration book of sea-going ships” shall serve as the basis for determining the priority order for settling related disputes.
4. Upon a lawful request, the Registry of sea-going ships and crews shall be responsible for supplying the information on the situation of the ownership of the registered ship to the requesting organization or individual.
Article 19: 1. An organization or individual that wishes to register the pledge, mortgage of or maritime lien on a sea-going ship shall have to submit to the Registry of sea-going ships and crews where the ship is registered the following papers:
-The application for registration of the pledge, mortgage of or maritime lien on the sea-going ship; -The contract for the mortgage or pledge of the sea-going ship or the document on the maritime lien on the sea-going ship (if they are copies, they must be certified by a competent agency).
2. Within 7 days from the date of receipt of all the papers mentioned in Clause 1 of this Article, the regional Registry of sea-going ships and crews where the ship is registered shall grant the certificate due to the lack of conditions or has not yet issued it for a plausible reason, it shall have to promptly inform the concerned organization or individual thereof.
3. The registry of sea-going ships and crew shall be entitled to collect fees on the registration of pledge, mortgage or maritime lien according to the regulations of the Ministry of Finance.
Section F. OVERSEAS REGISTRATION OF SEA-GOING SHIPS OWNED BY VIETNAMESE ORGANIZATIONS OR INDIVIDUALS
Article 20: 1. A sea-going ship owned by a Vietnamese organization having its head office in Vietnam or by a Vietnamese citizen permanently residing in Vietnam may be permitted to be registered abroad if it satisfies the following conditions:
a) The ship is exploited under a bare-boat charter party or a leasing contract signed between the Vietnamese ship-owner and a foreign organization or individual;
b) The registration of the ship in a foreign country is approved by a competent agency of such foreign country while the ownership of the Vietnamese ship-owner is retained;
c) The ship-owner shall have to commit himself to fulfilling all the obligations prescribed by Vietnamese law.
2. The permission for the overseas registration of a sea-going ship owned by a Vietnamese organization or individual shall be decided by the Minister of Communications and Transport or the Minister of Aquatic Resources (if the sea-going ship is used only for the aquatic resources service).
Article 21: 1. Before registering abroad a ship which has been already registered in Vietnam, the ship-owner hall have to make an application for registration deletion or ask fro permission to temporarily cease the registration in the “national registration book of sea-going ships”.
2. The Registry of sea-going ships and crews where the ship is registered shall delete the registration and grant a “registration deletion certificate” to the Vietnamese sea-going ship to be registered abroad and at the same time promptly in form the Registry of sea-going ships and crews so that it deletes the ship’s name in the “national registration book of sea-going ships”.
Article 22: The application of laws to settling issues related to sea-going ships provided for in Article 20 of this Regulation shall be carried out on the following principles:
1. Vietnamese law shall apply to settling issues related to the ownership of sea-going ships.
2. Laws of the foreign country where the ship is registered shall apply only to settling issues related to the right to use and management of the hip on the basis of the bare-boat charter party or a leasing contract. Chapter IIIREGISTRATION OF CREW
Article 23: Vietnamese sea-going ships shall be allowed to conduct maritime operations according to the registered purposes only when the ship’s complement is arranged in accordance with the provisions of this Regulation and relevant provisions of Vietnamese law.
Article 24: 1. Only those Vietnamese citizens who have fitting health conditions and certificates of maritime qualifications under the provisions of Vietnamese law are allowed to work on sea-going ships.
2. Foreign crews are allowed to work on Vietnamese sea-going ships owned by joint venture enterprises with foreign parties in Vietnam, but a total number shall not exceed one-third of the complement of each ship and the ship-captain or assistant ship-captain must be a Vietnamese citizen.
3. Foreign crews mentioned in Clause 2 of this Article must have fitting health conditions and certificates of maritime navigation qualifications under Vietnamese law. The various certificates of maritime navigation qualifications granted to foreign crews by foreign competent agencies shall be recognized only when it is clearly written in such certificates that they are granted under relevant international agreements which Vietnam has signed or acceded to.
Article 25: 1. The ship-owner shall be responsible for arranging the complement on the ship in accordance with the provisions of law and such complement must be registered at the Registry of sea-going ships and crews where the ship is registered.
2. The Registry of sea-going ships and crews where the ship is registered shall be responsible for inspecting the arrangement of the complement by the ship-owner and fill procedures for registering such complement in the “list of crew” book issued to the ship. If the complement is improperly arranged, it shall have to promptly request the ship-owner to rearrange it in accordance with the provisions of law.
Article 26: 1. The Registry of sea-going ships and crews shall be responsible for issuing passports to the crews who are Vietnamese citizens working on Vietnamese sea-going ships operating on overseas routes.
2. The dossier applying for a crew member’s passport includes:
a) Personal applications for passport; b) A brief resume certified by the ship-owner and 2 photos of 4x6 cm size; c) Copies of the crew member’s qualifications certificates certified by a competent State agency; d) The decision of the ship-owner to appoint the crew member to work on board the ship operating on overseas routes.
3. The ship-owner shall be fully responsible for his/her decisions to appoint crew member to work on board the ship operating on overseas routes.
Article 27: 1. The valid duration of a crew member’s passport shall be written in the passport. The extension of the passport, change of the ship’s name and the crew member’s title written in the passport shall be effected by the Registry of se-going ships and crews where the ship is registered on the basis of the ship-owner’s decision to transfer (or change the title of) the crew member.
2. The use and preservation of the crew’s passports shall comply with the provisions of law.
3. Only the ship-owner, crew and organizations that hire crews in Vietnam may apply for crew’s passports.
Article 28: The Ministry of Aquatic Resources shall provide for the procedures for registration of the crew working on sea-going ships which are used only in the aquatic resources service. Chapter IVHANDLING OF VIOLATIONS
Article 29: 1. All violations of the regulations on the registration of sea-going ships and crews provided for in this Regulation shall be handled in accordance with the provisions of law.
2. All complaints and denunciations of organizations and individuals related to violations of the regulations on the registration of sea-going ships and crews provided for in this Regulation shall be settled in accordance with the provisions of law. On behalf of the GovernmentFor the Prime MinisterDeputy Prime MinisterTRAN DUC LUONG
Voyager, c'est ne pas avoir peur de remettre en cause ses préjugés et accepter les règles locales sans conditions.
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les gardes cotes au Vietnam en plus d etre des racailles ultracorrompues, ilsne connaissent absolument rien a la plaisance.
Ils ont pris le drapeau de mon Hobbie Cat pour celui d un pays et m ont demandede le retirer 😏
J ai voulu leur faire essayer le hobbie cat, ils savaient pas tirer un bord. Des quiches !!!!
Bon courage !!!
Et comme il a ete dit par 2 fois plus haut, bizarre qu il n y ai as de plaisance au Vietnam avec 3000km de cote.
Gouvernes par des cretins c est pas demain la veille 🤪
Ils ont pris le drapeau de mon Hobbie Cat pour celui d un pays et m ont demandede le retirer 😏
J ai voulu leur faire essayer le hobbie cat, ils savaient pas tirer un bord. Des quiches !!!!
Bon courage !!!
Et comme il a ete dit par 2 fois plus haut, bizarre qu il n y ai as de plaisance au Vietnam avec 3000km de cote.
Gouvernes par des cretins c est pas demain la veille 🤪
On retrouve se comportement à tous les niveaux... j'en ai fais les frais il n'y a pas très longtemps en voiture... et dès que l'on a un commerce il en est de même. C'est quelque chose à intégrer...
Pour moi ca se précisait bien sauf que le bateau que je visais est un an trop vieux donc ca tombe à l'eau pour l'instant
Pour la plaisance, ca ne m'étonne qu'a moitié car il faut quand même avoir les moyens et les classes aisées ne sont pas si vieille que ca... donc ca va venir.
Pour la plaisance, ca ne m'étonne qu'a moitié car il faut quand même avoir les moyens et les classes aisées ne sont pas si vieille que ca... donc ca va venir.
Voyager, c'est ne pas avoir peur de remettre en cause ses préjugés et accepter les règles locales sans conditions.
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Si mes infos sont correctes, il ne s'agit pas d'une absence de classe aisée, mais du fait que les eaux territoriales comme l'air sont contrôlées par l'armée, qui ne veut pas de "privé" sur son territoire, donc pas de bateaux de plaisance ou avions privés et pas de ballons (qui seraient pourtant super au-dessus de la baie d'Along !)
Méfiez-vous de la vie, car les ratés ne vous rateront pas!
pas de ballons (qui seraient pourtant super au-dessus de la baie d'Along !)
A Vang Vieng au Laos on peut en faire au dessus des karsts, magique !!!
3000 KM de cote et un tas d station balneaire et d iles, PAS UN club de voile !!!
C est les Chinois qui je pense les traumatiseent et l effet "boat people".
A Vang Vieng au Laos on peut en faire au dessus des karsts, magique !!!
3000 KM de cote et un tas d station balneaire et d iles, PAS UN club de voile !!!
C est les Chinois qui je pense les traumatiseent et l effet "boat people".
Si mes infos sont correctes, il ne s'agit pas d'une absence de classe aisée, mais du fait que les eaux territoriales comme l'air sont contrôlées par l'armée, qui ne veut pas de "privé" sur son territoire, donc pas de bateaux de plaisance ou avions privés et pas de ballons (qui seraient pourtant super au-dessus de la baie d'Along !)
L'enregistrement des bateaux privés est possible... donc c'est pas le problème. La clase aisée actuelle a commencé parles voitures, les avions et maintenant hélicoptère... par contre pas de yacht alors que les Vietnamiens sont attiré par la mer et les poissons... mais de là a acheter un yacht pour le voir coulé par des Chinois... ils doivent hésiter. Maintenant, faire de la pêche sportive en choisissant bien les zones ca ne doit pas être compliqué.
L'enregistrement des bateaux privés est possible... donc c'est pas le problème. La clase aisée actuelle a commencé parles voitures, les avions et maintenant hélicoptère... par contre pas de yacht alors que les Vietnamiens sont attiré par la mer et les poissons... mais de là a acheter un yacht pour le voir coulé par des Chinois... ils doivent hésiter. Maintenant, faire de la pêche sportive en choisissant bien les zones ca ne doit pas être compliqué.
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Sur le passeport c’est écrit Martine DUPOND épouse AVRY
Pas de soucis pour partir j’espère avoir bien fais sur le billet ?
Ensuite sur l’ESTA je dois Martine DUPOND suffit ou je dois mettre comme le passeport avec la mention épouse ?
Merci d’avance
Hi there,
I’m spending a few days in San Pedro de Atacama (Chile) and would like to cross the Argentine border to make a loop toward Salta and then return to Chile to drop off the rental car.
I’ve heard that crossing the border can be tricky!
Is it possible with a rental company’s authorization? Which company, and at what cost?
Thanks for sharing your experiences!
Best regards,
Arnale
Bonjour à tous,
J'ai vu sur le site de l'ambassade de France au Pérou et sur le site du Consulat péruvien à Paris que la règle est d'avoir un passeport valide 6 mois après la date d'arrivée (et non la date de retour).
J'arrive au Pérou le 13 août 2019 (pour une douzaine de jours) et mon passeport est valide jusqu'au 16 février 2020.
Donc 6 mois et 3 jours après ma date d'arrivé au Pérou. Selon moi, je suis dans en règle.
Mais peut on quand même me bloquer l'entrée en disant que je ne couvre pas la date de retour ou que je suis trop proche des 6 mois ?
Merci pour vos retours.
J'ai vu sur le site de l'ambassade de France au Pérou et sur le site du Consulat péruvien à Paris que la règle est d'avoir un passeport valide 6 mois après la date d'arrivée (et non la date de retour).
J'arrive au Pérou le 13 août 2019 (pour une douzaine de jours) et mon passeport est valide jusqu'au 16 février 2020.
Donc 6 mois et 3 jours après ma date d'arrivé au Pérou. Selon moi, je suis dans en règle.
Mais peut on quand même me bloquer l'entrée en disant que je ne couvre pas la date de retour ou que je suis trop proche des 6 mois ?
Merci pour vos retours.
Hi there,
I read on the French Ministry of Foreign Affairs website that it’s possible to apply for a temporary driving permit in China, valid for 1 month. I’m planning to rent a car (without a driver) to explore part of the country next August, so I was wondering:
Has anyone here already gone through this process upon arrival? How long do the formalities take on the spot? Is it possible to handle these steps in advance, before arriving in China?
Thanks in advance for your replies.
I read on the French Ministry of Foreign Affairs website that it’s possible to apply for a temporary driving permit in China, valid for 1 month. I’m planning to rent a car (without a driver) to explore part of the country next August, so I was wondering:
Has anyone here already gone through this process upon arrival? How long do the formalities take on the spot? Is it possible to handle these steps in advance, before arriving in China?
Thanks in advance for your replies.
Hi
Has anyone been to Rwanda recently and gotten a 3-month visa on arrival easily?
Thanks
Hi there,
My departure is slowly approaching, and now that I’ve got my Russian visa sorted, I’m fine-tuning the rest of my trip to Tajikistan. Since the Tajik visa is no longer required for stays under 30 days (for French nationals), I’ll need to visit the Ministry of Interior (OVIR) to register within 10 days of entering the country. No big deal, though, since I had to go there anyway to apply for my GBAO permit. 😉 However, I’ve *seen* several reports from travelers (mostly motorized) mentioning that you need an entry permit for Kyrgyzstan, which has to be arranged in advance at the Kyrgyz Ministry (consulate?) in Dushanbe. Otherwise, you’re *stuck* at the Kyzyl-Art border (with no Wi-Fi, of course, to try and sort it out). The most recent report was from a year ago, so I’d love to know if this is still the case and if it’s indeed at the Kyrgyz Ministry (consulate?) where you need to go for this pre-authorization.
Does anyone have any recent info on this?
Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone.
I’m leaving for almost 3 months in the Philippines (11 weeks total) starting in early May.
I already have my round-trip ticket.
The problem is, I don’t have time to get a 2-month visa because the process takes nearly a month.
From what I’ve read here and there, I need a return ticket valid for less than a month when I arrive in the Philippines to prove my good faith.
After that, I can apply for a 30-day extension at the immigration office.
I’m planning to either buy a fully refundable ticket to the nearest country or a fake ticket.
For 3 months, I’ll need to extend my visa two more times before my return date to France.
My question is this:
Will immigration ask me each time I extend my visa by one month to show proof of an exit ticket matching the new visa extension date?
Is it possible to extend directly by 2 months before the initial 30 days expire?
Thanks in advance for your experiences and tips! 😊
Hello to all the Thailand regulars.
I’ve been to Thailand several times, but it was about 20 years ago…
There’s a new system in place now, it seems.
TDAC – Thailand Digital Arrival Card.
Before arriving, I apply for a TDAC, okay. If during my stay I cross the border to spend a few days in Malaysia and then re-enter Thailand, do I need to submit a new TDAC application? Do I use the same TDAC as when I first entered the country?
Or do I initially have to pay for a Thai multi-entry visa?
Thanks in advance for your insights—I can’t find the answer online.
Pierre
I’ve been to Thailand several times, but it was about 20 years ago…
There’s a new system in place now, it seems.
TDAC – Thailand Digital Arrival Card.
Before arriving, I apply for a TDAC, okay. If during my stay I cross the border to spend a few days in Malaysia and then re-enter Thailand, do I need to submit a new TDAC application? Do I use the same TDAC as when I first entered the country?
Or do I initially have to pay for a Thai multi-entry visa?
Thanks in advance for your insights—I can’t find the answer online.
Pierre
My partner (Mexican) entered France on January 21st as a tourist. She was therefore entitled to stay for 90 days in the Schengen Area. She’ll be leaving for Mexico on April 16th, so she’ll have “used up” 86 days.
She plans to return to France on July 18th. According to the European Commission’s Schengen calculator, this new stay “may be authorized for a maximum of 90 days.” That’s not very clear ("may be," "for a maximum of").
The text of Article 6 of the European regulation (2016/399) states that for a stay planned in the territory of the Member States, not exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period, one must examine "the 180-day period preceding each day of the stay." That’s not very clear either.
My partner wants to return to France for a 90-day period starting on July 18th. Is this possible?
There are two ways to look at it:
1) The first day she spent in the Schengen Area was January 21st. That day will drop out of the calculation 180 days later, on July 20th.
From July 20th, she’ll get back 1 day of possible stay; on July 22nd, 2 days; and so on. All the days from her previous stay (January 21st–April 16th) need to be outside the 180-day rolling window. The last day of her stay was April 16th. Looking 180 days ahead, that brings us to October 13th. From that date, she’ll be able to return for a full 90 days. 2) The number of allowed days is calculated for each day of the new stay. In other words: the 180-day window is recalculated every day, not fixed at the entry date. If she re-enters France on July 18th, she’ll only have a “credit” of 4 days. But with each day of her new stay, one day from the previous stay (January–April) will drop out of the calculation. The rolling window allows her to “replace” days from the previous stay with those of the new stay, without ever exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period. In this case, my partner could stay in France for 90 days starting on July 18th. The Prefecture doesn’t provide any information, nor does Air France, and in the forums I’ve checked, opinions are divided. Thanks for any insights you can share!
She plans to return to France on July 18th. According to the European Commission’s Schengen calculator, this new stay “may be authorized for a maximum of 90 days.” That’s not very clear ("may be," "for a maximum of").
The text of Article 6 of the European regulation (2016/399) states that for a stay planned in the territory of the Member States, not exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period, one must examine "the 180-day period preceding each day of the stay." That’s not very clear either.
My partner wants to return to France for a 90-day period starting on July 18th. Is this possible?
There are two ways to look at it:
1) The first day she spent in the Schengen Area was January 21st. That day will drop out of the calculation 180 days later, on July 20th.
From July 20th, she’ll get back 1 day of possible stay; on July 22nd, 2 days; and so on. All the days from her previous stay (January 21st–April 16th) need to be outside the 180-day rolling window. The last day of her stay was April 16th. Looking 180 days ahead, that brings us to October 13th. From that date, she’ll be able to return for a full 90 days. 2) The number of allowed days is calculated for each day of the new stay. In other words: the 180-day window is recalculated every day, not fixed at the entry date. If she re-enters France on July 18th, she’ll only have a “credit” of 4 days. But with each day of her new stay, one day from the previous stay (January–April) will drop out of the calculation. The rolling window allows her to “replace” days from the previous stay with those of the new stay, without ever exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period. In this case, my partner could stay in France for 90 days starting on July 18th. The Prefecture doesn’t provide any information, nor does Air France, and in the forums I’ve checked, opinions are divided. Thanks for any insights you can share!
Hello,
We’re planning to travel to Indonesia (Sulawesi with family) next July and August for a stay longer than a month (about 6 weeks).
I’ve seen that it’s possible to get a 60-day visa before departure, but I’ve also read about people having a lot of trouble getting it (some even didn’t manage and had to leave without it).
We absolutely need to have these 4 visas BEFORE leaving because once we’re in Sulawesi, I’m not sure we’ll be able to go to an embassy to request a visa extension after 30 days.
In short, how can we **100% guarantee** that we’ll get our 4 60-day visas before our trip this summer?
Thanks for your valuable tips!
Elodie
In short, how can we **100% guarantee** that we’ll get our 4 60-day visas before our trip this summer?
Thanks for your valuable tips!
Elodie
Hi there,
I’m leaving for Japan in a few weeks. I just noticed my passport has an ink stain on the signature page. Could this cause any issues?
I’m leaving for Japan in a few weeks. I just noticed my passport has an ink stain on the signature page. Could this cause any issues?
Hello, HAPPY NEW YEAR 2026!
We’re heading back in October for a trip through Botswana, Zambia, and Zimbabwe.
I have a question: for our route, we’ll need to cross the Zambia and Zimbabwe borders twice each. From experience, I know we won’t have any issues with Botswana.
But for the other two countries, I can’t find a clear answer.
All your tips are welcome!
Thanks for your replies
Thanks for your replies
Hi everyone!
I’m currently a student on a gap year, and I don’t plan to go back to school right away. That said, traveling really interests me. But I’ve been wondering: does being a student come with any perks when you decide to go abroad? The real question is whether I should re-enroll in a program just to keep that status without actually attending.
Thanks in advance for your replies,
Axel
I’m currently a student on a gap year, and I don’t plan to go back to school right away. That said, traveling really interests me. But I’ve been wondering: does being a student come with any perks when you decide to go abroad? The real question is whether I should re-enroll in a program just to keep that status without actually attending.
Thanks in advance for your replies,
Axel
bonjour a tous et toutes
je suis francais et vie en france et ma copine thailandaise m'apprends qu'elle est enceinte, elle vit en thailande. Dans un premier temps, un test de paternité afin d etre rassuré. quelles démarches dois je effectuer pour reconnaitre l'enfant, puis je le faire avant la naissance ou apres, ou dois je le faire, les papiers etc....
Je précise que je souhaite qu'il reste en thailande mais peut venir sans probleme en france à n'importe qu'elle moment !
Merci de prendre le temps de lire et d'y répondre.
hi
Do you know of any travel insurance for someone with a pre-existing condition?
Can a person who’s had a heart attack and is on medication get travel insurance?
Thanks
