Je me permets de faire appel à vos avis éclairés sur mon projet de voyage en Thaïlande fin mars.
Ce séjour est assez court (1 semaine qui fera suite à une 1ère étape dans le sud du Vietnam), j'ai donc concentré mon projet d'itinéraire "idéal" dans un périmètre qui me paraît raisonnable autour de Bangkok.
J'aimerais notamment savoir si ce déroulé vous paraît réaliste (sachant qu'on arrivera relativement acclimaté et reposé du Vietnam) et si les temps de trajet estimatifs vous paraissent corrects (minibus privé avec chauffeur envisagé) :
J1 : arrivée dimanche en début de soirée à l'aéroport de Bangkok. Trajet en voiture jusqu'à Ayutthaya (1h30 ?) et nuit sur place.
J2 : 1/2 journée de visite à Ayutthaya. Puis route vers Kanchanaburi (3h30 ?) avec courte étape à Nakhon Pathom sur la route. Nuit à Kanchanaburi.
J3 : A l'aube, balade en train jusqu'à Nam Tok. Puis 1/2 journée à Erawan Waterfalls (suffisamment d'eau à cette saison ?). Puis route pour Damnoen Saduak (4h ?) et nuit sur place.
J4 : A l'aube, marché flottant de Damnoen Saduak. Puis route vers Hua Hin (2h30 ?). Après-midi et nuit à Hua Hin.
J5 : Détente à Hua Hin. Puis route vers Bangkok (3h ?). En fonction de l'heure d'arrivée, 1ère visite de Bangkok.
J6 : Depuis Bangkok, ancienne route de Pattaya et visites de : Ancient City / Musée Erawan / Crocodile Farm. En fonction de l'heure de retour, visite de Bangkok.
J7 : Visite de Bangkok
J8 : Départ.
Je suis bien consciente que l'on pourrait passer beaucoup plus de temps dans chacun de ces lieux, mais en même temps, on ne fait pas ces voyages tous les jours, donc on a aussi envie d'en prendre plein les yeux
D'après ce que j'ai lu et entendu, le marché flottant de Damnoen Saduak n'a pas vraiment d'intéret, c'est une pure mise en scene pour touristes. Donc faire une étape pour ça c'est peut etre dommage !
Ben pas grand chose a vrai dire, vous allez surtout risquer de fermer les yeux dans le bus ou le taxi (vous ne parlez pas du choix des moyens de transports?) et de ne pas voir grand chose en fin de compte car l'itinéraire me parait pas très logique pour optimiser votre séjour.
J1: Pourquoi vous dormez pas a Bangkok si vous arrivez le soir? Comment vous allez a Ayyuthaya (en voiture? qui conduit?) 😮
J2: Ayyuthaya mérite la journée alors une étape et un trajet jusqu’à Kanchanaburi? 🤪
J3: Vous arrivez pas a caser le temple des tigres et un ou 2 temples pendant qu'on y est? 😇😄😏😛
J4: Pas indispensable, acheter une carte postale et aller direct a la case Hua Hin sans passer par la case "Floating market" et perdre 50'000 Bahts 😉
J5: Vous appelez ca "détente" puisque vous repartez direct le même jour a Bangkok? 🤪
J6: Pas indispensable vu le temps a disposition.
J7: Vous comptez visiter Bangkok en une journée...c'est sérieux? 😉
J8: Bon voyage, j'espère que vous allez prendre quelques vacances a votre retour 😄
C'est ce que j'ai lu aussi. Mais un ami thaïlandais nous a dit que ça valait quand même le coup si on venait très tôt le matin, d'où l'idée de dormir sur place la veille pour y être à l'aube. Et surtout, ça fait une escale sur la route vers Hua Hin. C'est pour ça qu'on l'avait quand même intégré à notre itinéraire.
Mais peut-être qu'une autre étape sur cette route serait plus intéressante ?
Merci Boumbastic pour cette réponse très encourageante...!
J'ai précisé que nous envisageons un minibus avec chauffeur, donc prise en charge dès l'arrivée à l'aéroport.
Comme nous prévoyons de visiter Bangkok à la fin du séjour et que nous n'arrivons pas trop tard, nous trouvons plus judicieux de nous en éloigner directement. Nous arriverons du Vietnam (1h30 de vol), ce n'est pas comme si nous avions 15h de voyage dans les pattes depuis Paris et que nous étions directement confrontés au jet lag.
Plus globalement, il me semble plus intéressant de faire les trajets en fin de journée (moins chaud ?), afin d'être frais et dispo de bonne heure sur place pour les visites du lendemain. C'est en tout cas comme ça que j'ai fonctionné pour des road trips précédents aux US. Et en plus, là-bas, nous n'avions pas de chauffeur. Mais peut-être que ce principe n'est pas applicable à la Thaïlande ?
Après, je me doutais qu'il y aurait sûrement des choix à faire parmi tout ça. C'est bien pour ça que je sollicite l'avis de connaisseurs... Donc tout conseil constructif pour réorganiser les choses de manière plus "logique pour optimiser notre séjour" est le bienvenu !
Merci.
C.
Qu'en pensez-vous ?
Ben pas grand chose a vrai dire, vous allez surtout risquer de fermer les yeux dans le bus ou le taxi (vous ne parlez pas du choix des moyens de transports?) et de ne pas voir grand chose en fin de compte car l'itinéraire me parait pas très logique pour optimiser votre séjour.
J1: Pourquoi vous dormez pas a Bangkok si vous arrivez le soir? Comment vous allez a Ayyuthaya (en voiture? qui conduit?) 😮
J2: Ayyuthaya mérite la journée alors une étape et un trajet jusqu’à Kanchanaburi? 🤪
J3: Vous arrivez pas a caser le temple des tigres et un ou 2 temples pendant qu'on y est? 😇😄😏😛
J4: Pas indispensable, acheter une carte postale et aller direct a la case Hua Hin sans passer par la case "Floating market" et perdre 50'000 Bahts 😉
J5: Vous appelez ca "détente" puisque vous repartez direct le même jour a Bangkok? 🤪
J6: Pas indispensable vu le temps a disposition.
J7: Vous comptez visiter Bangkok en une journée...c'est sérieux? 😉
J8: Bon voyage, j'espère que vous allez prendre quelques vacances a votre retour 😄
Prenez les éléments "constructifs" de ma critique (en faisant des choix comme suggéré) et laissez l'ironie de coté...même si elle est justifiée comme vous le verrez sur place 😉
Ok donc s'il faut faire des choix, on renonce à une étape trop rapide à Ayutthaya au profit de Kanchanaburi et on peut mettre de côté l'ancienne route de Pattaya.
Voici ce que ça donne en remoulinage rapide :
J1 : arrivée dimanche en début de soirée à l'aéroport de Bangkok. Trajet en voiture jusqu'à Nakhon Pathom (2h ?) et nuit sur place.
J2 : Visite du Chedî. Puis route vers Kanchanaburi (2h ?). 1/2 journée et nuit sur place.
J3 : A l'aube, balade en train jusqu'à Nam Tok. Puis 1/2 journée à Erawan Waterfalls (suffisamment d'eau à cette saison ?). Puis retour à Kanchanaburi et nuit sur place.
J4 : Route vers Hua Hin (4h15 ?). Journée et nuit à Hua Hin.
J5 : Journée à Hua Hin. Puis route vers Domnoen Saduak (2h30 ?) pour nuit sur place.
J6 : A l'aube, marché flottant de Damnoen Saduak. Puis route vers Bangkok (2h ?). Visite de Bangkok (1/2 journée).
J7 : Visite de Bangkok
J8 : Départ.
Ca vous paraît plus réaliste ?
Prenez les éléments "constructifs" de ma critique (en faisant des choix comme suggéré) et laissez l'ironie de coté...même si elle est justifiée comme vous le verrez sur place 😉
Oui ca me parait beaucoup plus réaliste même si j'aurai plutôt zappé le marché flottant de Damnoen Saduak (mais c'est mieux de le voir très tôt le matin avant l'arrivée des bus de touristes) au profit d'Ayyuthaya, ancienne capitale du Siam, beaucoup plus intéressante 😉
PS. Pour les chutes d'Erawan, il y a toujours de l'eau (elles sont parfois artificiellement alimentées je crois). J'y suis allé en mai et j'ai pu m'y baigner sans problème. C'est vraiment magnifique comme endroit (y aller assez tôt, des bus touristiques arrivent vers 15-16h et le WE il y a beaucoup de monde, lieu de villégiature des thailandais)
Damnoen Saduak est une toute petite étape, elle pourrait encore sauter au profit d'un retour direct à Bangkok. Mais comme notre idée est d'y aller avant le rush des touristes (vers 6h), ça nous semble intéressant de la maintenir.
J'ai l'impression qu'il fallait surtout choisir entre Ayutthaya et Kanchanaburi car les 2 méritent qu'on s'y attarde un peu plus.
Et je me dis qu'Ayutthaya est une bonne étape à conserver pour un futur trip dans le nord du pays 😉
Pour les chutes d'Erawan, on irait un mardi. D'après ce que j'ai lu, on peut prendre un petit train vers 6h qui fait arriver à Nam Tok vers 8h. Avec le temps de trajet en minibus ensuite, ça nous fait arriver relativement tôt (10h au plus tard j'imagine). Donc on pourrait profiter pleinement du lieu tout en repartant là aussi avant la foule.
Bonjour,
Oui ca me parait beaucoup plus réaliste même si j'aurai plutôt zappé le marché flottant de Damnoen Saduak (mais c'est mieux de le voir très tôt le matin avant l'arrivée des bus de touristes) au profit d'Ayyuthaya, ancienne capitale du Siam, beaucoup plus intéressante 😉
PS. Pour les chutes d'Erawan, il y a toujours de l'eau (elles sont parfois artificiellement alimentées je crois). J'y suis allé en mai et j'ai pu m'y baigner sans problème. C'est vraiment magnifique comme endroit (y aller assez tôt, des bus touristiques arrivent vers 15-16h et le WE il y a beaucoup de monde, lieu de villégiature des thailandais)
Hua Hin est-il réellement intéressant? Je ne sais pas si j'aurais gardé HH, par rapport à ce que vous avez enlevé. Personnellement, je ne pense pas qu'en un séjour si court il soit judicieux de partir un peu dans tous les sens (au sens propre).
Pensez qu'il fait très chaud, qu'il y a plein de choses à voir dans chaque région, que vous êtes aussi en vacances... et que ce pays se laisse vraiment découvrir qu'on y prend son temps. Par exemple Bangkok/Damnoen Saduak/Nakhon Pathom/Kanchanaburi/Bangkok, c'est déjà très sympa, et je profiterais au mieux de tout ça plutôt en plusieurs semaines! Ou alors Bangkok/Hua Hin et la côte. Ou alors Bangkok en séjour et excursions à la journée tout autour.
Mais mettre un peu de tout ça sur 1 semaine...c'est vous qui voyez.
Je reconnais que Hua Hin, c'est le détour le moins logique de notre itinéraire, guidé par une grande envie de voir un peu la mer... qui est une facette de la Thaïlande que nous avons aussi envie de voir.
Est-ce qu'il y aurait une autre ville moins au sud permettant aussi bien d'être dans un cadre balnéaire ?
J'ai l'impression qu'il fallait surtout choisir entre Ayutthaya et Kanchanaburi car les 2 méritent qu'on s'y attarde un peu plus.
Ce n'est pas un choix car même si les 2 méritent le détour, Ayyuthaya peut se visiter en une journée alors qu'il faut 2-3 jours pour Kanchanaburi minimum. Ayyuthaya (qui n'est pas encore ce qui est considèré comme le nord du pays, juste au nord de BKK) n'est qu'a 45 mn de Bangkok en taxi, juste pour info, alors qu'il faut 2h pour Kanchanaburi 😉
Je reconnais que Hua Hin, c'est le détour le moins logique de notre itinéraire, guidé par une grande envie de voir un peu la mer... qui est une facette de la Thaïlande que nous avons aussi envie de voir.
Est-ce qu'il y aurait une autre ville moins au sud permettant aussi bien d'être dans un cadre balnéaire ?
Bien sûr. Par exemple Samut Prakan et ses marées vaseuses. Mais c'est intéressant plutôt pour les ornithologues. Par contre vous avez plein de sites dans le coin, et ce n'est pas archi-bondé de touristes. Avis perso, la côte du Golfe de Siam pas trop éloignée de Bangkok n'a rien d'extraordinaire, si vous attendez des paysages de cartes postales style mer d'Andaman vous risquez d'être un peu déçus, et on a beaucoup "mieux" en France. Mais vous pouvez passer plusieurs jours sympas à Ayutthaya (que je connais) et tous les voyageurs reviennent enchantés de Kanchanaburi (que je ne connais pas).
Pour un 1er séjour, on a envie de tout voir, mais c'est impossible. Il faut choisir entre Fontainebleau, la Bretagne et les calanques. Sans faire un choix plus net, vous risquez de voir plus d'asphalte que de trucs sympas. D'un autre côté, si vous restez flexible dans les hôtels, il est très simple de modifier vos choix une fois sur place. Au feeling. Ou selon la météo!
Ville non (sauf Pattaya) mais une île peut-être, Koh Samet par exemple 🙂
On avait pensé à Ko Samet au début. Mais c'est un peu la même distance que Bangkok-Hua Hin, non ?
Et il faut compter aussi le temps de la traversée en bateau.
Du coup, venant de l'ouest de Bangkok, Hua Hin nous a finalement paru plus logique. 🙂
Oui mais pas au mois de mars 🙂 Et on voit peu la mer à Paris 🙁
Il faut choisir entre Fontainebleau, la Bretagne et les calanques. Sans faire un choix plus net, vous risquez de voir plus d'asphalte que de trucs sympas. D'un autre côté, si vous restez flexible dans les hôtels, il est très simple de modifier vos choix une fois sur place. Au feeling. Ou selon la météo!
Là on parle de trajets de 2-3h, pas de 10h d'un bout à l'autre du pays...
Pour avoir fait plusieurs voyages sur ce rythme et n'ayant pas peur de nous lever tôt, cela nous semble raisonnable, surtout avec les aménagements apportés grâce aux conseils reçus.
D'ailleurs, je pense qu'on va aussi finir par zapper Damnoen Saduak, pour retourner directement à Bangkok.
Donc au final, on passerait 2j à Kanchanaburi, 2j à Hua Hin et 2j à Bangkok. Raisonnable non ? 🙂
Merci en tout cas pour les conseils, peut-être qu'il ne faut effectivement pas tout booker pour se laisser une marge de liberté sur place !
Ville non (sauf Pattaya) mais une île peut-être, Koh Samet par exemple 🙂
On avait pensé à Ko Samet au début. Mais c'est un peu la même distance que Bangkok-Hua Hin, non ?
Et il faut compter aussi le temps de la traversée en bateau.
Du coup, venant de l'ouest de Bangkok, Hua Hin nous a finalement paru plus logique. 🙂
Oui vous avez raison, ça revient au même en fait car c'est plus rapide d'aller a Hua Hin même si c'est un peu plus loin 😉 Voyez cela comme une alternative et non une meilleure solution 🙂
Il y a une plage un peu plus au nord que Hua Hin, dans la province de Petchaburi. C'est Hat Chao Samran. Il faut sortir de la 4 à Petchaburi et suivre la route 3177 (ca roule bien, c'est presque qu'une grande ligne droite).
C'est très paisible, peu de guesthouse ou restaurant... C'est un peu Cha Am en plus calme. Rien à voir avec Hua Hin. Par contre, la présence d'un local est pratiquement nécessaire. Et faire attention au débarquement de Bangkok le week-end, moindre qu'aux endroits cités précédemment mais vu qu'il y a moins d'hébergement...
Photos de la plage.
Bon séjour
Il voulait lui donner des fleurs, mais comme il n'y a pas de fleurs sur l'île, il lui a donné l'argent des fleurs
Bonjour,
Merci pour l'info, c'est effectivement moins au sud, ça peut être une bonne option.
Je ne connais pas Cha Am non plus. Je vais regarder de plus près ces 2 villes.
Merci !
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Hi there,
I didn’t plan to return to Thailand this year, but my health conditions mean it’ll be the best place for me to stay between two trips to India. The tourism setup there is so well-organized that it’s the most "comfortable" country for a short visit. Thailand feels too sanitized for my taste, and there’s too much religion, Buddha, and the King, but it’s still the best option given how my health has been evolving. I’d considered two weeks in ThaTon for hiking, but I got too sick from the burn-offs during my trips to the mountains around Chiang Rai. So I’m not sure where to go this year. Definitely not the sea, touristy spots, or the mountains with burn-offs...
Après un séjour à Koh Phayam en novembre prochain, je souhaite séjourner 2 ou 3 jours à Koh Phra Thong, avant de continuer vers le sud.
Pensez-vous que c'est jouable de quitter Koh Phayam assez tôt pour attraper le bateau de 10h qui part de Khura Buri pour Koh Phra Thong ?
Le seul bateau suivant est à 16h, ce qui me ferait perdre une journée.
I’m planning a trip to Indonesia, specifically Sulawesi and Java, in September for 10 days.
I don’t know this part of the world at all—any advice is welcome!
I’ll be traveling solo and would also love tips on meeting other travelers or locals.
Hello everyone,
Not long ago, I used to travel as a couple, but my husband has since passed away, and I’ve decided to set off again. The trip I took to Cambodia in January 2025 did me a world of good.
I’m now considering Thailand, a destination we never included in our plans because even 15 years ago, people said it was too touristy. Still, I’m thinking about the itinerary below, but I don’t feel up to arranging buses, trains, or guides on my own while I’m there. I’m looking for one or more drivers and have been in touch with an agency, but their offers are just copy-paste group tours that I don’t want.
So, if you have any contacts, experiences, or advice, I’d be so grateful if you’d share them with me. Here’s my rough plan:
Arrival in Bangkok
Ayutthaya (2 nights)
Kanchanaburi (2 or 3 nights)
Sangkhlaburi/Sai Yok (3 nights)
Sukhothai (2 nights)
Lampang (I’ve planned 3 nights, but that might be a bit much—it depends on what time I arrive in the city)
Chiang Mai
Chiang Dao
Pai
Chiang Rai
I was thinking about the Mae Hong Son loop—thoughts?
What do you think about staying overnight at the Golden Triangle?
When I look online, of course, I can find agencies that organize tours to national parks, etc.
I’m retired but in great physical shape. I’d rather go hiking than sit in hot springs with crowds of tourists who’ve all arranged meet-ups. I don’t want to spend a day at an elephant camp, and I don’t want to visit Karen villages.
I’d love to hear your advice.
Thank you all,
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
That said, I’m not really sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you?
If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still any walks or sights worth checking out in Kampong Thom?
Hi everyone,
I couldn’t find any recent info on Kuching.
Can anyone recommend a hotel or guesthouse for under 100 RM that’s nice and affordable? No dorms, please.
Also, does it rain a lot in November, and is it still worth visiting Semenggoh or Bako?
Hi,
On September 1st, we're heading to Kalimantan for six weeks, probably from Pontianak to the Derawan Islands.
I've scoured this site, which is usually my go-to 😉, and others like VoyageForum, but recent info is pretty scarce.
I'd love any tips on places you've visited—our itinerary is still a work in progress.
We're two couples traveling with backpacks, using buses, boats, guesthouses, and homestays.
Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
Could you share your thoughts on my 3-week itinerary?
We’re a small group (family + friends) of 12 people, planning to leave around January 21, 2027.
Here’s my itinerary:
3 nights in Bangkok
4 nights in Chiang Mai
3 nights on Koh Samui
3 nights on Koh Phangan
4 nights in Krabi
4 nights in Phuket
I’m also open to any great tips you might have...
Thanks, everyone! Alain.
Hi,
From Malacca to get to Jerantut, is it better to go back to KL and take a bus from there, or take a bus to Tampin and then a train? Any feedback on the "Jungle Train"? (duration, price, comfort, etc.). Thanks
Hi there,
We’re planning a 3-week family trip next summer with our three kids, who’ll be 8, 8, and 7 years old.
After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur
Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral.
Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo).
Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok:
* Orangutan Center
* Malayan Sun Bear Center
* Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan.
Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari.
Jungle walk.
Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari.
Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port.
Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar
5 full days.
* Snorkeling
* Hiking
* Turtle watching
* Wild beaches
* Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland.
Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Hi there,
I’m planning a family trip (my wife and I, both 47, and our two sons, aged 5 and 12) to Malaysia for the last week of June and the first two weeks of July 2027.
We used to love road trips as a couple, then as a trio, but since our second child arrived, we’ve taken a break with "camping village" style trips.
Now feels like the right time to get back to our old habits, while adjusting the pace for the kids.
We’re craving Asia. We’ve been lucky enough to visit Thailand, Indonesia (Bali and Lombok), and Sri Lanka before.
Friends have raved about Malaysia, so we’re definitely tempted.
For those who know and love Malaysia, what would be a good itinerary starting from Kuala Lumpur, with a maximum of 3-4 stops? We’d like a mix of culture, nature, and relaxation (just to clarify, we’re not big beach fans). All of this without rushing, of course.
Hi everyone,
We’re heading to Flores and then Bali at the end of September.
We’ve already visited both but this time, once we’re in Labuan Bajo, we’d like to take a boat to the Komodo Islands to see the famous Komodo dragons.
I don’t want to sleep on the boat—just a day trip would be perfect.
Does anyone know a reliable and friendly provider to recommend?
Thanks in advance, and have a great summer!
Summer seems to be the best time weather-wise for Bali.
And since summer’s when we can take a long trip, let’s go for Bali... even though we know it’ll be *packed* with people!
So we’ll steer clear of the island’s south...
Our current plan (19 days on the ground, 7 stops):
- 4 Nights (3 days) in Ubud
2 days for rice terraces / activities (Tegallalang, Campuhan Ridge, Monkey Forest, Bird Park, coffee plantation, market (?), dance "pestacle," cooking class and/or spa)
1 day with a driver for the Temples (Pura Gunung Kawi, Tirta Empul Spring, Pura Mengening, Goa Gajah...)
- 2 nights in Sidemen (1 day for Pura Kehen + Batur Caldera + Pura Besakih and 1 day to relax in the rice terraces)
- 3 nights on Gili Meno (Rest and beaches) from Padangbai
- 2 nights in Amed (1 day from Padangbai with the Abang rice terrace and Tirta Gangga baths, and the next day a boat tour in Amed)
- 4 nights in Pemuteran (1 day for transfer and rest, 1 day to visit Kawah Ijen, and 2 days of snorkeling at Menjangan Island)
- 2 nights in Munduk (1 day with the Dayang rice terrace and the 3-waterfall hike, 1 day at Pura Ulun Danu Bratan)
- 2 nights in Jatiluwih (1 day in the rice terraces, and on the last day, we’ll stop by Pura Taman Ayun in Mengwi and Pura Tanah Lot before catching our red-eye flight).
Accommodations in homestays or hotels.
Transportation to be arranged on-site with the lodgings (?)
Boat to Gili Meno to book in advance (?)
Kawah Ijen excursion to plan ahead (?)—check with the homestay (?)
Thanks for your thoughts/comments to help us explore this destination...
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027:
- Phnom Penh
- Kampong Cham
- Kratie
- Siem Reap
- Battambang
- Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights.
Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above.
Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
However, I’m not quite sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you?
If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still some walks and/or things to see in Kampong Thom?
Hi there,
We’re planning to travel from Chiang Rai to Luang Prabang next November.
We’d like to take a slow boat from Chiang Khong—or rather from Huay Xai in Laos—with an overnight stop in Pakbeng.
Could you let us know if the boat still leaves Huay Xai in the late morning? If so, what time roughly, and what’s the price for the trip?
Thanks for your help!
Alod
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations:
We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights:
The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1:
We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2:
This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3:
With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4:
Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings.
We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops.
In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5:
Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6:
This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8:
Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10:
On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12:
We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines.
Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment.
We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15:
From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP).
We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning.
We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise.
Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16:
We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town.
It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view.
We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise.
In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911.
On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city.
We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17:
Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning.
Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in.
The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances:
In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary:
Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional.
Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
So, my flight tickets have just been booked for a trip to Cambodia from November 4th to 27th, 2025.
I’ll be traveling solo and want to explore this amazing country while getting a bit off the beaten path.
I’m arriving in Phnom Penh and also departing from Phnom Penh.
My goal is to travel as much as possible by bus and scooter.
What itinerary would you recommend?
What are the must-do things?
I’m open to all tips and info.
Thanks in advance for your help and responses.
We got back enchanted from a 6-week trip to Cambodia!
Our itinerary: Kampot - Kampong Chhnang - Battambang - Siem Reap - Kampong Cham - Sen Monorom (Mondulkiri) - Banlung (Ratanakiri) - Kratie - Kampong Thom - Phnom Penh.
We traveled by bus, minivan, boat (between Battambang and Siem Reap), overnight bus, scooter, tuk-tuk, and rickshaw for shorter distances. We stayed in guesthouses, homestays, and even in the jungle during a trek.
While the Angkor temples are fabulous, it’s the people you should visit Cambodia for—the "Land of Smiles" truly lives up to its nickname! Tourists gather in Angkor but are quite rare elsewhere, even though the country is easy to travel around.
I won’t describe our trip in detail but instead highlight a few favorite moments.
From Kampot, don’t hesitate to head out around 6 AM to see the fishermen return and their wives selling their catch (just 10 minutes away by the coast). Guaranteed picturesque!
In Battambang, known for its food scene, we discovered a cooking class with Smokin’ Pot (authentic Khmer cooking class). They pick you up from your guesthouse to shop for ingredients (we made fish amok and beef lok lak) at their village market, then cook and eat together. A private class—just the two of us! They also send the recipes via WhatsApp as a PDF. +855 12 821 400
In Siem Reap, I can recommend a francophone tuk-tuk driver who was very attentive to our wishes. We visited tourist spots but also more remote villages and local grilled-pork restaurants with him. He’s a wealth of information about local life, and chatting with him was a real pleasure—we left with regret! You can reach him on WhatsApp: Vung Hem, +855 96 614 0146.
We did a 2-day, 1-night trek in Mondulkiri. Don’t expect a super dense jungle—it looks more like a forest similar to ours. But Nara, our Bunong ethnic guide, made the experience adventurous and ultimately very immersive! WhatsApp +855 86 630 489
Bee Bee’s Chalets homestay: If you pass through Banlung in Ratanakiri, we *loved* this family and their budget-friendly bungalows. Playing Uno, enjoying Nita’s cooking (ask for her fish amok—amazing!), it was a true homestay experience! Contact Nita on WhatsApp: +855 88 818 5525.
In Kratie, rent a scooter and follow the Mekong north for 40 km at your own pace. Being so close to the locals was a treat! Same goes for heading south if you have time.
Kampong Thom: Head 25 km out to visit the pre-Angkorian temples of Sambor Prei Kuk. Around a hundred monuments spread across three sites… and hardly anyone there!
A few practical tips:
Though prices are often listed in dollars, you can always pay in riels (1 USD = 4000 riels), which is what we preferred.
PassApp: An app to book tuk-tuks or rickshaws (and most importantly, know the price upfront).
Virak Buntham: A bus company connecting several cities, bookable online.
Feel free to ask me questions about places, accommodations, etc.—I’d be happy to answer!
We’re planning our second trip to Thailand (2 weeks on-site, late April/early May) as a family with our 5- and 7-year-olds.
On our first trip, we visited Bangkok, Ayutthaya, the River Kwai, Koh Lipe, Koh Phi Phi, and Khao Lak. We especially loved Koh Phi Phi for its limestone cliffs and lush vegetation, as well as Koh Lipe for its crystal-clear waters and snorkeling.
This time, I’m thinking of spending 7 days on the islands. I was considering Koh Tao and Koh Phangan. We’d like some scenery, snorkeling right from the beach, and a bit of atmosphere—but not too much (just enough to grab dinner in the evening).
For the other part of the trip, we’re torn between Chiang Mai and Khao Sok. One or the other… or both? We don’t want to rush, but we’re really nature-focused, so we won’t be hitting too many temples…
Hi there, I’ll be on vacation in Malaysia in November and plan to spend 5 days in Penang. After that, I’d like to visit some temples and places in Butterworth or nearby, and also explore the city. Since I usually get around on foot, which neighborhood would be best for me—meaning within a 30-minute walk of attractions, street food stalls, bus lines, etc.? Thanks in advance for your help!
Françoise
Hello, it’s been a while since I last asked for your help on this forum—I’ve really missed it! I hope you’re all doing well, whether you're new or returning members.
I’m planning a trip from February 6 to 18, 2027, with my sister (we’re 47 and 50—time flies!). I’ve got my eye on a flight from Paris that lands in Bangkok on February 7 at 3 PM, with a return flight from Bangkok on February 18 at noon.
My sister has never been to this destination, and it’ll be her first time in Asia. Her priorities: beaches, sunshine, and cocktails by the shore. For me, I love that too, but I also enjoy exploring, nature, forests, and a bit of comfort (mixing guesthouses and higher-end hotels with pools). A little evening entertainment would be great, but not too much—good cocktails in a nice atmosphere rather than a rave party ;-). And I can’t help but dream of taking her on a little trek through a tropical forest (guaranteed memories and laughs, though she might curse me at the time) and showing her some karst landscapes.
I’ve been to Thailand before, but it was 15 years ago...
The idea is to give her a taste of Bangkok for 1 or 2 nights, a few days on an island (but which one...?), a tropical forest excursion with 1 or 2 nights on-site (Khao Sok?), and then back to Bangkok.
For the "main" island, even after reading the *Guide du Routard*, I’m still undecided. It’s hard to find a place that ticks all the boxes without feeling as crowded as the French Riviera in August: Koh Lanta? Khao Lak (though it’s not an island)? Koh Tao (I could maybe get my PADI certification, but I’m afraid she’d get bored, and it might be better to save that for a solo trip)? Koh Yao Yai (I worry we’d be bored in the evenings)? What a dilemma!
Thank you if you’ve read this far! Feel free to share any advice—it’ll all be warmly welcomed.
Here’s a rough outline of the itinerary (I’d rather skip a night in Bangkok if needed):
· Saturday, February 6, 2027: departure (overnight flight)
· Sunday, February 7, 2027: arrival at 3 PM, probably at the hotel by 6 PM, evening in Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok)
· Monday, February 8, 2027: day in Bangkok (Wat Pho and a floating market?) (overnight in Bangkok)
· Tuesday, February 9, 2027: travel to Koh Lanta or another island (flight to Phuket or Krabi?) (overnight on island "x")
· Wednesday, February 10, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x")
· Thursday, February 11, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x")
· Friday, February 12, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x")
· Saturday, February 13, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x")
· Sunday, February 14, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x")
· Monday, February 15, 2027: travel to Khao Sok—nighttime excursion to Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok)
· Tuesday, February 16, 2027: exploration and hike in Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok)
· Wednesday, February 17, 2027: return trip to Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok)
· Thursday, February 18, 2027: return flight to Paris at noon
I’m planning a trip to Cambodia and was set on visiting the Ratanakiri region, which seemed to match what we love most in terms of landscapes: forests, jungle, greenery...
However, as I started looking into the area, I read that deforestation there is massive, and some of the info on the topic is years old—the situation hasn’t improved since, unfortunately.
So my question is: is Ratanakiri still worth visiting, and does it justify the long travel time and distance to get there?
I’ve seen that jungle treks are possible, but from experience, I know guides sometimes hesitate to venture deep into the forest and stick to shorter walks along the edges of parks.
Hi there,
I’ve found so many tips and reviews on this forum, so it’s my turn to contribute a little.
We spent just over two weeks with our family, with the following itinerary:
- Hanoi: 5 days
- Halong Bay: 3 days and 2 nights
- Tam Coc: 3 days
- Mai Chau: 2 days
- Sapa: 3 days
We got around by bike, scooter, Grab, and bus.
Our main accommodations were homestays and hotels in Hanoi.
We visited lots of museums, temples, and neighborhoods in Hanoi.
We did a 2-day, 1-night trek in Sapa with May, a Hmong local, without going through an agency.
A few small regrets: the weather was overcast, and we couldn’t make it to Fansipan, but nothing major 😅. We also couldn’t find transport to get from Sapa to Mu Cang Chai.
Other than that, this trip will stay in our memories for the kindness of the Vietnamese people, the connections we made, the food (street food, homestays...), the coffee 😋, the landscapes, and how easy it was to get around...
Our goal was to take our time and focus only on a small part of northern Vietnam.
If you need any tips or recommendations, don’t hesitate to ask.
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Cédric.
Hi there, we’re landing at Hanoi Airport and would like to head straight to Cao Bang without going into Hanoi. Does anyone know if there are buses that go directly from the airport to Cao Bang (especially in the early afternoon)? Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
I’m currently working on a 30-day itinerary for May/June 2027.
10 days in eastern Java (Malang, Bromo, waterfalls, Meru Beriti Park, Banyuwangi, and Ijen), a short transit in Ubud for a few days, then Flores before heading back to Jakarta.
We’ll spend 15 days in Flores (the classic route: Moni, Bajawa, Riung, Ruteng, ending in Labuan Bajo).
I’d love some firsthand feedback on flights to Maumere or Ende from Bali Denpasar. I know there are no direct routes and that you have to connect through Labuan Bajo or Timor (I think), which isn’t an issue in itself.
But I’ve read here and there that flights to these destinations can be delayed—or worse, canceled—and that it’s better to fly in and out of Labuan Bajo, which isn’t exactly ideal...
Thanks for any tips or experiences you can share!
hi everyone,
I want to travel in the north for 3 weeks in September-October 2026 to meet ethnic minorities, photograph mountain rice terraces and their harvest, and revisit Halong Bay—but maybe Lan Ha Bay instead. Can you recommend one or more local agencies?
Thanks, and happy holidays!