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Itinéraire à vélo en France où les enfants pourront rouler par eux-mêmes
by Yakirou
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Salut à tous,
pour cet été nous cherchons un itinéraire ou les enfants pourrons rouler par eux même, sur une grande majorité du parcours, donc type voies vertes ou partagées... mais nous voulons éviter les grands classiques, et les voies très fréquentés en périodes estivales, types La Loire à Vélo, ou La Vélodyssée, par exemple...
Il doit bien exister des itinéraires de 200 à 400km relativement plats, pas dangereux pour les enfants, peu fréquentés et dans de beaux paysages en France???
Des Vallées à suivre, et des jolies traversées... nous avions déjà fait la ViaRhona, ou les paysages sont surprenants, peu fréquentés (bizarrement?) et très roulable....
A vos idées 😛
A vos idées 😛
le Meuse peut être
faut juste qu'il sache nager on sait jamais
car sur ces voies dites vertes la rivière est parfois très proche
claudio didit
ya pas grd monde en juillet aout
http://cbandiera.free.fr/recits/2017-charleville/
a présent on peut partir de Verdun semble t il
http://cbandiera.free.fr/parcours/meuse/
Bonjour aux bernaches

claudio .. de la Faverges
http://cbandiera.free.fr/recits/2017-charleville/
a présent on peut partir de Verdun semble t il
http://cbandiera.free.fr/parcours/meuse/
Bonjour aux bernaches

claudio .. de la Faverges
Claudio de la Faverges.
Bonjour amis cyclotouristes, claude passionné de voyages à vélo favergien et défenseur du cycliste.
plus la carte bleue est foncée et plus le bagage est léger
en anglais "the more the card is blu the less the luggage is heavy"
La Bourgogne à vélo ... pas mal, pas trop fréquenté, bien désservi ...
le site :
https://www.la-bourgogne-a-velo.com/la-carte-de-la-bourgogne--v-lo--01fr.html
un "tour de Bourgogne" raccourci, fait il y quelques années : https://www.lethieu39.fr/cyclotourisme/cyclo-petit-tour-de-bourgogne/
Bonne recherche
un "tour de Bourgogne" raccourci, fait il y quelques années : https://www.lethieu39.fr/cyclotourisme/cyclo-petit-tour-de-bourgogne/
Bonne recherche
michel mathieu
www.lethieu39.fr
Bonjour,
Nous avons fait la Loire à vélo de Nantes/Ancenis à Blois il y a 2ans au mois d'Aout.
On croise régulièrement du monde mais on est très loin de l'autoroute à vélo.
L'avantage de la Loire est que l'on y trouve très régulièrement des campings et beaucoup de facilités pour un retour en train au point de départ grâce à la SNCF qui me des wagons vélo sur cet axe tout l'été.
Nous recherchons aussi des idées pour cet été, en France ou à l'étranger.
La Via Rhona, j'ai regardé mais d'après certaines lectures, le parcours n'est pas toujours sécurisé, mal indiqué parfois. Vous semblez avoir apprécié, vous avez fait quel tronçon ?
Olivier
L'avantage de la Loire est que l'on y trouve très régulièrement des campings et beaucoup de facilités pour un retour en train au point de départ grâce à la SNCF qui me des wagons vélo sur cet axe tout l'été.
Nous recherchons aussi des idées pour cet été, en France ou à l'étranger.
La Via Rhona, j'ai regardé mais d'après certaines lectures, le parcours n'est pas toujours sécurisé, mal indiqué parfois. Vous semblez avoir apprécié, vous avez fait quel tronçon ?
Olivier
Pour la ViaRhona nous avions fait la Partie Loriol/Orange, dans le cadre d'une traversée depuis la Savoie (en passant par le Vercors et Vallée de la Drome). Et franchement très agréablement surpris, surtout suite au Vercors et vallée de la Drome. Le tronçon réalisé était facile à suivre et sécurisé. Il faut semble t'il réaliser la traversée de l'Agglo Lyonnaise en TER. La partie Savoyarde est plus sauvage.
Pour la Loire, c'est certain que l'itinéraire semble majeur avec des enfants. C'est vraiment plat? et sécurisé? Nos enfants ont 6 et 8ans... et roulent seuls. Quelle partie faire et dans quel sens? Vous aviez fait combien de km, et d'étapes? j'avais un peu peur que cela soit un autoroute à vélo, et camping blindés en Aout...
Pour la Loire, c'est certain que l'itinéraire semble majeur avec des enfants. C'est vraiment plat? et sécurisé? Nos enfants ont 6 et 8ans... et roulent seuls. Quelle partie faire et dans quel sens? Vous aviez fait combien de km, et d'étapes? j'avais un peu peur que cela soit un autoroute à vélo, et camping blindés en Aout...
Salut,
Tout dépend si vous souhaitez rester dans un environnement de montagne, de plaine ou de mer.
Pour la mer, il y a des choses très belles vers la Normandie (tour de la baie du Mont-Saint-Michel, voire tour de Manche) moins frequentée mais avec une météo plus capricieuse que la velodyssée.
Pour la plaine, de très nombreuses possibilités comme la Bourgogne. Pour la montagne, en attendant que la voie verte de la vallée de l'Arve soit opérationnelle ou si vous trouvez que la vallée de l'Isere en amont de Grenoble (cf via prealpina du Claudio) ne soit pas assez dépaysante, , je vous conseille vraiment la descente de la vallée de l'Inn (pas trop loin de la Savoie) entre Suisse et Autriche, que nous avions croisé (très ponctuellement) lors de notre transalpina avec enfants (cf notre blog si besoin). Pour la moyenne montagne, de très belles choses aussi dans (ou autour) du massif central (GTMC...)
A vous de voir ce qui vous intéresse. Tous ces itinéraires sont très renseignés.
Seb, des TSAGA
Bonjour
Sans aucune hésitation: le canal du Nivernais sinon la partie du tour de la bourgogne de Tonnerre à Dijon... J'ai testé ces itinéraires avec mon petit fils à quatre reprises. La première fois il avant 6 ans et la dernière... 10 ans. Sinon, ......allez en Autriche ou en Allemagne.
Patrick
Bonjour
Je je ne sais pas d'où vous êtes.
Vous pouvez faire le canal de Nantes à Brest. En partant de Nantes ou de Châteaulin.très agréable avec les enfants , facile et sécurisé, pratiquement jamais de route, il suffit de suivre le canal d'un bout à l'autre.vous avez aussi les bords de la Vilaine jusqu'à Rennes. Et ensuite le canal de Lille et Rance, qui mène jusqu'à Dinan.
Le bord de la Mayenne également très jolie. Il y a aussi le canal du Nivernais. Il est aussi très roulant et sécurisé. Tous ces canaux je les ai fait en vélo charger.
Que du bonheur. Ma préférence était le canal de Nantes à Brest.
Je vous souhaite de super vacances en vélo.
( Moi je suis de Pontivy dans le Morbihan )
Vous voulez plus de renseignements n'hésitez pas. Kenavo.👍...
Didier
Salut, nous cherchons du calme, de beaux paysages et du plats pour les enfants...
La Vallée d l'Inn semble sympa, mais à un paquet d'heures de route de la Savoie, non?
T'as un lien pour ton blog? merci
Et oui, la Bretagne c'est top, nous avons fait la cote par le tour de Manche l'été passé...
Bonjour
Je reviens vers vous pour vous dire que le Nirvernais est beaucoup plus joli que le Bourgogne. Il a un revêtement correct sur toute sa longueur. La partie la plus intéressante est en partant de Migennes à Dijon.
Le Bourgogne à des portions assez désagréable. le halage n'est pas très bien entretenu . après Dijon très monotone et pas beaucoup d'intérêt, jusqu'à St Jean de Losne. J'ai fait les deux au printemps et pour moi il n'y a pas photo.
Didier
Nous avons fait environ 300 kms sur 8 jours à un rythme très tranquille. Les enfants avaient alors 7 et 9 ans.
Nous avons toujours trouvé des campings et seulement réservé une seule fois le matin pour le soir car nous voulions vraiment nous arrêter dans ce camping.
La route est sécurisée, beaucoup de pistes cyclables le long de la Loire, quelques petites routes mais toujours à faible circulation.
Le parcours est globalement plat, juste quelques cotes du côté de Saumur dans le Vignoble mais tout à fait faisable avec les enfants.
Et non, pas d'autoroute à vélo, nous avons rencontré des vélos mais bien sûr mais pas du tout gênant, plutôt agréable même, ça permet d'échanger...
Vous pourrez voir mon blog (et ceux de nos autres voyages) dans ma signature.
Merci pour les infos pour la Via Rhona, à creuser...
Vous pourrez voir mon blog (et ceux de nos autres voyages) dans ma signature.
Merci pour les infos pour la Via Rhona, à creuser...
La vallée du Lot et du Célé c'est sublime et tranquille , pas de danger avec des enfants et bien balisé
Je ne vais pas vite ...mais j'y vais !!!
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attention la partie terminale avant Agde est tortueuse faudra prendre les rtes attenantes
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partez avec une scie à métaux ; si jamais ..
claudio .. de la faverges




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partez avec une scie à métaux ; si jamais ..
claudio .. de la faverges




Claudio de la Faverges.
Bonjour amis cyclotouristes, claude passionné de voyages à vélo favergien et défenseur du cycliste.
plus la carte bleue est foncée et plus le bagage est léger
en anglais "the more the card is blu the less the luggage is heavy"
Bonjour Domair
Tout d'abord merci de m'avoir répondu c'est sympa de ta part.
Le Canal du Midi je l'ai déjà fait 4 fois et ça ne s'améliore pas du tout , c'est plutôt le contraire. La dernière fois c'était au printemps 2016 et j'ai été obligé de m'arrêter quelques km avant Carcassonne. C'était devenu une désolation triste à pleurer. Depuis qu'ils ont abattu les platanes. Ils ont tout défoncer et ils ont laissé le halage dans un état pas possible, il faut être vraiment courageux pour le faire, et pour arriver jusqu'à sept sans abîmer son matériel. Difficile de rouler sur le halage après une journée de pluie.
À partir de Toulouse direction Béziers tu as à peu près 32km de piste cyclable goudronnée. Le reste c'est plutôt l'enfer j'ai discuté avec plusieurs routard comme
Moi. Après Carcassonne ils ne me conseillait pas de continuer.
Voilà si j'ai pu éclairer ta lanterne et surtout aux autres qui veulent le faire.
Le Canal du Midi il ne faut surtout pas le confondre avec le canal latéral de la Garonne. En partant de son point de départ à Castets-en-Dorthe jusqu'à Toulouse. Que du bonheur. Au mois de mai je prends la direction de la vallée du Lot en partant de la Bretagne En vélo bien sûr. Vivement le printemps Kenavo.👍.
Le Canal du Midi il ne faut surtout pas le confondre avec le canal latéral de la Garonne. En partant de son point de départ à Castets-en-Dorthe jusqu'à Toulouse. Que du bonheur. Au mois de mai je prends la direction de la vallée du Lot en partant de la Bretagne En vélo bien sûr. Vivement le printemps Kenavo.👍.
Didier
Bonsoir
Bien sûr mais tu l'as fait à quelle époque quel moment quelle année.?
Moi j'ai pu le tester avec un vélo bien chargé. si tu n'avais rien dans les sacoche en première du dimanche ça passe il y a pas de souci.
Didier
Mais c'était en 2015 depuis il y a eu beaucoup de changements il faut l'avoir fait. l'avoir testé pour se rendre compte.
j'ai rencontré beaucoup de routard au niveau de Carcassonne ils m'ont surtout conseillé ne pas descendre jusqu'à Béziers .
Je ne comprends pas ton entêtement à faire de la publicité pour le Canal du Midi
Alors qu'ils ont complètement saccagée le halage avec abbattage des platanes.
Il faut l'avoir fait pour le croire.
Didier
Bonjour
De Royan à Narbonne d'accord.
Tu avais 20 kg dans tes sacoche moi j'en avais le double plus de 40 kg. Donc ultra-light pour toi. Un petit promeneur en somme . Pour moi autonomie total.Je ne vais jamais au camping .bivouac en pleine nature que du bonheur.
Je voudrais te préciser une chose.
Je l'ai déjà fait 4 fois. La première fois nous l'avions fait il y a plus de 20 ans et il était en meilleur état qu'aujourd'hui.
En 2011 nous l'avons fait , et été jusqu'à l'étang de Thau, la fin du Canal du Midi.
À l'époque il portait bien son nom il faisait encore rêver. Actuellement il est devenu triste à pleurer. Monotone sans ombre sans arbres quelle désolation.
Et aussi qu'elle saccage depuis qu'ils ont abattu les platanes.
Je voudrais te faire une petite parenthèse
Arrivé au niveau du (pont-canal de cesse) 600 m plus loin sur ta droite. Tu as pris le canal de jonction et ensuite le canal de la Robine pour aller directiont Narbonne. Et ensuite qui continue pour aller à Port-la-Nouvelle. Voilà la différence , tu n'étais plus sur le Canal du Midi. Tu n'as pas pu découvrir la partie qui va sur Béziers. Tu me dis bitume, d'accord. Je te comprends. Mais il n'y a pas que du bitume. j'ai fait toutes sortes de revêtement. Mais celui du midi je ne suis pas près de l'oublier . Il faudra attendre pas mal d'années pour qu'il retrouve sa beauté. Les canaux je les connais tous. Canal du Midi , canal de la Robine , canal de Bourgogne, canal du Nivernais , canal de Briare , canal du Loing , canal d'Orléans, canal latéral à la Loire , canal de Nantes à Brest....... et il y en a bien d'autres.
Ça se voit que tu n'as pas pris la peine de te renseigner. J'espère que j'ai pu éclairer ta lanterne , et aussi aux autres qu'ils voudront le faire. Kenavo.👍 Mais pas à plus je t'en ai assez dit. Et ça ne servirait à rien.
Arrivé au niveau du (pont-canal de cesse) 600 m plus loin sur ta droite. Tu as pris le canal de jonction et ensuite le canal de la Robine pour aller directiont Narbonne. Et ensuite qui continue pour aller à Port-la-Nouvelle. Voilà la différence , tu n'étais plus sur le Canal du Midi. Tu n'as pas pu découvrir la partie qui va sur Béziers. Tu me dis bitume, d'accord. Je te comprends. Mais il n'y a pas que du bitume. j'ai fait toutes sortes de revêtement. Mais celui du midi je ne suis pas près de l'oublier . Il faudra attendre pas mal d'années pour qu'il retrouve sa beauté. Les canaux je les connais tous. Canal du Midi , canal de la Robine , canal de Bourgogne, canal du Nivernais , canal de Briare , canal du Loing , canal d'Orléans, canal latéral à la Loire , canal de Nantes à Brest....... et il y en a bien d'autres.
Ça se voit que tu n'as pas pris la peine de te renseigner. J'espère que j'ai pu éclairer ta lanterne , et aussi aux autres qu'ils voudront le faire. Kenavo.👍 Mais pas à plus je t'en ai assez dit. Et ça ne servirait à rien.
Didier
Que des arbres ont été abattus j'en ai vu bien assez...
C'est triste mais ça n'enlève pas la beauté de ce canal, et il en reste des centaines de km encore ombragés, suffisamment pour que ça reste une destination de rêve... pour moi en tous cas.
Et pour ta gouverne, camping sauvage aussi, il ne sert à rien de s'encombrer du fatras de choses inutiles...
Si tu aimais vraiment la nature, tu fuirais le bitume...
Dom
les arbres vont bien finir par repousser
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Claudio de la Faverges.
Bonjour amis cyclotouristes, claude passionné de voyages à vélo favergien et défenseur du cycliste.
plus la carte bleue est foncée et plus le bagage est léger
en anglais "the more the card is blu the less the luggage is heavy"
salut Yakirou..
avec des enfants ne fais surtout pas le canal de Toulouse a la mediteranée c 'est un scandale et je pèse mes mots - je viens de le faire ce mois de Juin - tu vas les dégoutter du vélo ...sans compter le risque de voir un gamin dans la flotte.
je ne parle pas des platanes personne n' est responsable, il faut bien les abattre et les brûler sur place surtout que dans certains coins ils replantent.
le canal est réservé aux vététistes....
Si tu veux être tranquilles fait la partie Toulouse Arcachon que de la belle piste pour des gamins.- toujours fait au mois de Juin.- bonne balade gérard
Si tu veux être tranquilles fait la partie Toulouse Arcachon que de la belle piste pour des gamins.- toujours fait au mois de Juin.- bonne balade gérard
gérard Vergnes
Bonjour pouney
Je me réjouis en lisent ton message.
voilà un vrai routard qui peut en parler.
Il faut l'avoir fait pour se rendre compte de son état déplorable.
Un vrai tape-cul, il faut passer ses journées entières à surveiller la roue avant de son vélo. Sans compter les crevaisons et les accidents de parcours. Pour profiter du paysage il faut s'arrêter autrement impossible.
Dans certains endroits il y avait même plus de halage, c'était que de l'herbe,
J'ai eu beaucoup de chance ce jour-là,
L'herbe avait été coupée.
C'est un cauchemar surtout après une journée de pluie. Il faut être vététistes, et surtout ne pas être trop chargé .
Ou aussi tout simplement à pied.
A déconseillé aux jeunes enfants en vélo.
Bon courage à ceux qui veulent le faire . et bien se renseigner avant.
Kenavo.👍 pouney
Et merci pour ton soutien.
Et merci pour ton soutien.
Didier
Ce n'est pas avec tes 4 lignes que tu arriveras à convaincre les gens.
Qu'est-ce qui te fait dire qu'on aime pas la nature.?
Tu ne connais pas assez les aventures de certains.
Et tu n'as plus assez d'eau pour alimenter ton moulin.
Tu nous parle de bitume bitume...
Sur le canal du midi ce n'est plus du bitume c'est l'enfer.
Didier
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This summer, we’re planning to cycle along the EV 19 that follows the Meuse River from Langres all the way to Rotterdam. My question is about getting back to Nantes. Do any of you know what the best return option might be? I’d love to hear about your experiences. I saw that FlixBus doesn’t take bikes. By train, I think it’s possible but would involve multiple local trains. We were also wondering if there’s a boat from Rotterdam to Saint-Nazaire that could take passengers with bikes.
Any tips or experiences you can share would be really helpful—thanks in advance! Have a great evening
This summer, we’re planning to cycle along the EV 19 that follows the Meuse River from Langres all the way to Rotterdam. My question is about getting back to Nantes. Do any of you know what the best return option might be? I’d love to hear about your experiences. I saw that FlixBus doesn’t take bikes. By train, I think it’s possible but would involve multiple local trains. We were also wondering if there’s a boat from Rotterdam to Saint-Nazaire that could take passengers with bikes.
Any tips or experiences you can share would be really helpful—thanks in advance! Have a great evening
I’ve gotten used to crossing Europe by bus to return by bike.
It was really convenient to take the bike without having to disassemble it.
But FlixBus no longer accepts bikes...
What alternatives do you know about?
Thanks.
Hi there,
I’m planning to ride the Dutch section of the EuroVelo 19, from Maastricht to Rotterdam.
Since it’s too complicated to bring my bike on the train, I’m looking to rent one locally.
I’d love any tips or bike rental shop recommendations—I’m struggling to find options even in Rotterdam.
The plan is to rent in Rotterdam, take the train to Maastricht with the bike, then cycle back to Rotterdam.
Thanks in advance for any advice or suggestions!
Nath
Coming soon:
https://www.Biclou.com/parcours/durance/
Starting from Faverges: 900 km over 9 days

Here’s the detailed Durance route starting from Briançon

Here’s the detailed Durance route starting from Briançon

Hi there,
I’m planning to build a new touring bike. I want to prioritize lightness. That said, I’m tempted by a suspension fork that could offer some comfort on rougher roads. The recent appearance of gravel suspension forks on the market might meet my needs—at least on paper. I’m particularly considering the RockShox Rudy Ultimate XPLR fork. Unlike MTB forks, its travel is short: either 30 mm or 40 mm. It weighs 1400 g, which is 400/500 g more than a steel fork.
Any thoughts or real-world feedback on this?
I’m also wondering about the durability of magnesium (lower leg) for long-distance bike touring. And what’s the impact of skipping the manufacturer-recommended maintenance every 50 and 200 hours? That’s bound to happen on a long trip unless you carry extra gear. More generally, how reliable are these kinds of forks?
Thanks in advance
I’m planning to build a new touring bike. I want to prioritize lightness. That said, I’m tempted by a suspension fork that could offer some comfort on rougher roads. The recent appearance of gravel suspension forks on the market might meet my needs—at least on paper. I’m particularly considering the RockShox Rudy Ultimate XPLR fork. Unlike MTB forks, its travel is short: either 30 mm or 40 mm. It weighs 1400 g, which is 400/500 g more than a steel fork.
Any thoughts or real-world feedback on this?
I’m also wondering about the durability of magnesium (lower leg) for long-distance bike touring. And what’s the impact of skipping the manufacturer-recommended maintenance every 50 and 200 hours? That’s bound to happen on a long trip unless you carry extra gear. More generally, how reliable are these kinds of forks?
Thanks in advance
Hi there!
I’m making an exception and creating a separate post this time, since it’s all about France. In May, we spent a week in Provence, specifically in the Luberon, exploring the cycling routes *Autour du Luberon à Vélo*, the *Véloroute du Calavon* (part of EuroVelo 8), and the shorter *Les Ocres à Vélo* route. Together, they gave us an amazing journey through rolling hills, vineyards, lavender fields still green in spring, and some of the most stunning landscapes in southern France.

It was, of course, the perched villages that impressed us the most. We visited Gordes, Roussillon, Bonnieux, Lacoste, Lourmarin, Ménerbes, Oppède-le-Vieux, Cucuron, and Lauris. Many of them are among the most beautiful villages in Provence, and it’s hard not to agree with that reputation.




One interesting point is the route of EuroVelo 8 in this part of the region. The official path mainly follows the old railway line of the *Véloroute du Calavon*, which is very comfortable and safe. But in our opinion, cyclists traveling EuroVelo 8 around the Mediterranean would discover even more treasures if the route passed through villages like Bonnieux, Lacoste, or Oppède-le-Vieux.


We were also pleasantly surprised by how safe cycling felt. Most of the route takes small local roads, but traffic is light, drivers are respectful, and road design really takes cyclists into account. It’s one of those places where you can ride peacefully even without separated bike lanes.



Our full story:
Around Luberon by bicycle - the most beautiful villages of Provence
You can also find all our cycling travel stories on the forum:
Cycling Thread - Europe’s most beautiful bike routes
S.
I’m making an exception and creating a separate post this time, since it’s all about France. In May, we spent a week in Provence, specifically in the Luberon, exploring the cycling routes *Autour du Luberon à Vélo*, the *Véloroute du Calavon* (part of EuroVelo 8), and the shorter *Les Ocres à Vélo* route. Together, they gave us an amazing journey through rolling hills, vineyards, lavender fields still green in spring, and some of the most stunning landscapes in southern France.

It was, of course, the perched villages that impressed us the most. We visited Gordes, Roussillon, Bonnieux, Lacoste, Lourmarin, Ménerbes, Oppède-le-Vieux, Cucuron, and Lauris. Many of them are among the most beautiful villages in Provence, and it’s hard not to agree with that reputation.




One interesting point is the route of EuroVelo 8 in this part of the region. The official path mainly follows the old railway line of the *Véloroute du Calavon*, which is very comfortable and safe. But in our opinion, cyclists traveling EuroVelo 8 around the Mediterranean would discover even more treasures if the route passed through villages like Bonnieux, Lacoste, or Oppède-le-Vieux.


We were also pleasantly surprised by how safe cycling felt. Most of the route takes small local roads, but traffic is light, drivers are respectful, and road design really takes cyclists into account. It’s one of those places where you can ride peacefully even without separated bike lanes.



Our full story:
Around Luberon by bicycle - the most beautiful villages of Provence
You can also find all our cycling travel stories on the forum:
Cycling Thread - Europe’s most beautiful bike routes
S.
Hi there, we’re a group of 4 cyclists looking to get from Treviso in Italy to Munich with our 4 non-folding bikes. It seems complicated! Are there any solutions? Thanks so much.
hello fellow cycling enthusiasts
here’s a travel journal of the cycling tour through the Rhône-Alpes Auvergne region by Claudio
zouli
it was the plan
http://cbandiera.free.fr/parcours/auvergne-Ralpes/
the trip was completed story being posted online soon 1100 km in 11 days beautiful and varied regions
claudio

the trip was completed story being posted online soon 1100 km in 11 days beautiful and varied regions
claudio

Hi, I'm looking for a Pino tandem bike for sale in Quebec and I can't find any. Does anyone have any info, please? Thanks a bunch!
Hi there, we’re planning a Munich to Venice bike trip at the end of June 2026. Getting back from Venice to Toulouse by train with 4 bikes isn’t straightforward. What return options have others who’ve done this trip chosen? Any tips or great deals would be much appreciated. Thanks a bunch! !
Hi everyone,
Happy owner of a Pegasus Estremo bike with a Rohloff hub, which is giving me trouble with the SF11-NCX-FT-E-LITE 700C TS 300/0 fork (serial number TD01329060). It’s starting to show its age, and I’d like to repair it to extend the life of my beloved bike.
The suspension is gone, and there’s an oil leak from the seals.
Does anyone know how to repair it? Where can I find parts that are about fifteen years old? Or where to find an identical replacement fork? Just to clarify, the Magura HS11 brakes are mounted using Firm Tech, meaning they’re on pivots behind the fork, facing the frame.
Thanks for your help! Have a great day, Alexandre
The suspension is gone, and there’s an oil leak from the seals.
Does anyone know how to repair it? Where can I find parts that are about fifteen years old? Or where to find an identical replacement fork? Just to clarify, the Magura HS11 brakes are mounted using Firm Tech, meaning they’re on pivots behind the fork, facing the frame.
Thanks for your help! Have a great day, Alexandre
Hi, I'd like to know if anyone has done this route recently or has reliable info.
Does the track exist, and most importantly, is there sand (for biking)?
Any info is welcome.
Cheers,
diego ambilobe: mangaoka, manondro, ramena vohemar sambava: masondrono, tanambao
diego ambilobe: mangaoka, manondro, ramena vohemar sambava: masondrono, tanambao
Hi there,
New to bike touring,
I’d love to start with a section of the Via Rhona to explore and share (route to be decided).
Looking forward to exchanging tips!
hey everyone,
I’m landing in Madagascar with a buddy before the end of April 2026. We’re planning to bike around for about twenty days or so. We don’t have a specific goal other than exploring the country and meeting the locals.
Ideally, we’d prefer a loop route starting from Antananarivo with a good chunk of it along the coast. On the bike side, we’re used to riding 6 to 8 hours a day, depending on the needs, encounters, and mood 😉 Any feedback or tips from trips around this length?
Thanks in advance, Jérôme
I’m landing in Madagascar with a buddy before the end of April 2026. We’re planning to bike around for about twenty days or so. We don’t have a specific goal other than exploring the country and meeting the locals.
Ideally, we’d prefer a loop route starting from Antananarivo with a good chunk of it along the coast. On the bike side, we’re used to riding 6 to 8 hours a day, depending on the needs, encounters, and mood 😉 Any feedback or tips from trips around this length?
Thanks in advance, Jérôme
A big thank you to Lazarou for all the info you share in this forum!
I'm passionate about Morocco, which I cycled through back in 2009.
Last year, my wife and I explored the High Atlas by tandem. Completely smitten, we're heading back in April (Anti Atlas) and May (High and Middle Atlas), still on our tandem.
Do you have any info on the track between Amezri and Ali Ait Nito? Are the river crossings in the Tessaout still there? It's not easy to navigate with a loaded tandem... especially if the river level is high due to this year's heavy snowmelt!
Thanks in advance for any tips you might have, and best wishes for health in this new year!
Thanks in advance for any tips you might have, and best wishes for health in this new year!
A shout-out to a cycling colleague from Savoie
Claudio specializes in the route of the Savoie lakes Here are his travels Between Bornes, Chartreuse, the Savoie foothills, and Dauphiné Five lakes: Léman, Annecy, Paladru, Aiguebelette, Bourget, not to mention a few ponds along the way Plenty of accommodation options: camping, hotels, and more...
A lovely route not far from his place Rural and quite peaceful A road cycling route created by Serge B...
N+1 reconnaissance trips on a loop of about 400 km This way, he avoids the SNCF and its troubles http://cbandiera.free.fr/vv/lacs-savoie/recos.php

The latest reconnaissance trip from April to May 2026 http://cbandiera.free.fr/recits/2026-grenoble-H/index.php

Claudio specializes in the route of the Savoie lakes Here are his travels Between Bornes, Chartreuse, the Savoie foothills, and Dauphiné Five lakes: Léman, Annecy, Paladru, Aiguebelette, Bourget, not to mention a few ponds along the way Plenty of accommodation options: camping, hotels, and more...
A lovely route not far from his place Rural and quite peaceful A road cycling route created by Serge B...
N+1 reconnaissance trips on a loop of about 400 km This way, he avoids the SNCF and its troubles http://cbandiera.free.fr/vv/lacs-savoie/recos.php


The latest reconnaissance trip from April to May 2026 http://cbandiera.free.fr/recits/2026-grenoble-H/index.php

First of all... happy New Year! Wishing you great roads in 2017!
I’ve been traveling for a few years now with a high-quality mountain bike, but it’s equipped with hydraulic disc brakes. I live (pedal) with the constant worry of a breakdown (leak, air bubble, heat causing the fluid to...). My bike mechanic tells me it’s impossible to switch them out for V-brakes.
What do you all think? Am I taking a big risk continuing (alone) with these brakes? Thanks in advance for your great tips!
Hi everyone,
First post here to share a quick recap of our west-to-east bike trip along Algeria’s coast in January 2025. It was just the two of us—my partner and I—with French passports and not a word of Arabic. No friends or welcoming hosts in the country.
Under those conditions, we’d strongly advise against going.
Our original plan was to follow the coast from Algiers to Tunis. We ended up cycling from Algiers to Béjaia, then took the train from Béjaia to Annaba (with a stop in Constantine), and finally biked to the border. We were tailed by police the whole way—whether on our bikes, on the train, or even on foot while exploring towns. On top of that, we couldn’t wild camp and were limited to the few state-approved hotels that accept foreigners. Under those circumstances, connecting with locals was especially tough.
With such an omnipresent and intrusive police presence, we’d definitely recommend against this destination for bike touring. A really sad situation that completely cuts you off from the local population...
We’d been warned, we went to check it out, and we weren’t disappointed!
You’ve been warned.
First post here to share a quick recap of our west-to-east bike trip along Algeria’s coast in January 2025. It was just the two of us—my partner and I—with French passports and not a word of Arabic. No friends or welcoming hosts in the country.
Under those conditions, we’d strongly advise against going.
Our original plan was to follow the coast from Algiers to Tunis. We ended up cycling from Algiers to Béjaia, then took the train from Béjaia to Annaba (with a stop in Constantine), and finally biked to the border. We were tailed by police the whole way—whether on our bikes, on the train, or even on foot while exploring towns. On top of that, we couldn’t wild camp and were limited to the few state-approved hotels that accept foreigners. Under those circumstances, connecting with locals was especially tough.
With such an omnipresent and intrusive police presence, we’d definitely recommend against this destination for bike touring. A really sad situation that completely cuts you off from the local population...
We’d been warned, we went to check it out, and we weren’t disappointed!
You’ve been warned.
Hi there,
I’m planning the route to cycle from Lille to Nordkapp with my partner.
Duration: 3 months, from May 1st to July 31st, 2026.
In the attached details below, I need to add some "non-riding" days (rest days, basically).
So I’m looking to "shorten" the trip by taking ferries or trains for some stretches. Which areas could I skip?
Thanks in advance for your great tips.
Have a good evening.
https://www.komoot.com/fr-fr/collection/4023980/-lille-cap-nord-1er-mai-au-31-juillet-2026?ref=collection
Hi there,
I’m planning to bike back from Poland this summer. Does anyone know a way to ship it there without having to take it apart? Otherwise, it’s a real hassle to fine-tune all the settings before departure! Thanks in advance.
I’m planning to bike back from Poland this summer. Does anyone know a way to ship it there without having to take it apart? Otherwise, it’s a real hassle to fine-tune all the settings before departure! Thanks in advance.
Hi, has anyone recently bought Primus or Butagaz gas, possibly puncture-style, in Dubrovnik or the surrounding area? Same question for Albania... thanks. aichatou
Hi there,
Coming from Laos (*), I’m planning to enter Thailand by bike via the Fourth Thai–Lao Friendship Bridge.
Before this bridge was built, I’d already cycled the road from Louang Namtha to Houei Sai and crossed the river by boat to reach Thailand.
At the time, the condition of that road was impeccable, and most importantly, traffic was light.
So I’m wondering if anyone who’s taken it recently can tell me whether traffic has increased since the bridge opened.
Thanks in advance!
(*) I’m currently cycling in China (Yunnan)
Coming from Laos (*), I’m planning to enter Thailand by bike via the Fourth Thai–Lao Friendship Bridge.
Before this bridge was built, I’d already cycled the road from Louang Namtha to Houei Sai and crossed the river by boat to reach Thailand.
At the time, the condition of that road was impeccable, and most importantly, traffic was light.
So I’m wondering if anyone who’s taken it recently can tell me whether traffic has increased since the bridge opened.
Thanks in advance!
(*) I’m currently cycling in China (Yunnan)
Hi there,
Just a few words about the loop I did by bike in Yunnan.
Entry and exit
I entered China through the Sino-Vietnamese border crossing at Lào Cai / Hekou under the 30-day visa exemption currently available to French nationals and others.
The process was simple and quick. A Chinese police officer even helped me complete my electronic pre-registration at a computer kiosk. I wasn’t aware this formality was required—it’s similar to Thailand’s TM6.
No issues with the bike.
I left the country via the Sino-Laotian border crossing at Mohan / Boten.
The atmosphere was a bit chaotic there, but again, no problems with the bike.
The timing
I visited Yunnan in February 2026.
Weather-wise, at higher altitudes (between 1,500 and 2,000 meters), it was around ten degrees at night and in the mornings, and around twenty degrees at the hottest part of the day.
I had two days of rain, so I took the bus to keep moving. Otherwise, clear blue skies.
Culturally, Chinese New Year fell on February 17th (and the 15 days following), right in the middle of my trip. Because of this, my take on the traffic might be off.
Accommodation and food I always found a hotel to stay in for prices ranging from 8 to 15 €. Except in Kunming (the capital), where many hotels were fully booked (Chinese New Year). I ended up at a 100 € hotel with great value for money.
A bowl of noodles costs about 1.5 € on average.
Onboard electronics Since my smartphone doesn’t support eSIMs, I subscribed to a China plan with my carrier. Otherwise, for much cheaper, Alipay offers eSIMs for foreigners that allow access to services usually blocked for Chinese users (WhatsApp, Facebook, etc.).
An internet connection is essential for paying with Alipay or WeChat, as this payment method is widespread.
I only managed to use Alipay.
Either way, always carry cash because sometimes there’s no signal, or the merchant only accepts WeChat.
Also, it’s best to bring a power adapter when you arrive rather than struggling to find one.
Traffic and roads The Chinese aren’t reckless drivers. They follow traffic rules and watch out for cyclists. This is slightly less true in Xishuangbanna (the region bordering Myanmar and Laos).
In urban areas, there are almost always wide bike lanes, separated from other roads, where bikes, electric mini-scooters, and scooters share the space pretty harmoniously.
The roads are in great condition, and traffic is generally manageable—even light—except for one stretch (Eshan -> Yangwu).
Most traffic is absorbed by expressways, China’s equivalent of highways: toll roads that are off-limits to slow vehicles.
You’re never far from these expressways; sometimes you even ride alongside them, which can be noisy at times.
The climbs are usually reasonable, around 5% to 6%. From what I remember, the steepest section was between Menglun and Mengla, with gradients of 8% to 10%, sometimes more.
Riding at these altitudes—though modest—took a bit of getting used to.
The route I didn’t plan anything in advance. My only goal was to reach Kunming. I don’t know why, but just hearing the name of that city, like Yunnan, always felt dreamy to me.
Here’s the breakdown: Hekou -> Man Hao (94 km); Man Hao -> Yuanyang (64 km); Yuanyang -> Jianshui (bus); Jianshui -> Tong Hai (78 km); Tong Hai -> Chenjiang (85 km); Chenjiang -> Kunming (60 km); Kunming -> Kunyang (60 km); Kunyang -> Eshan (67 km); Eshan -> Yangwu (58 km); Yangwu -> Yuanjiang (59 km); Yuanjiang -> Pu'er (bus); Pu'er -> Dadugang (75 km); Dadugang -> Jinghong (80 km); Jinghong -> Menglun (67 km); Menglun -> Mengyuancun (51 km); Mengyuancun -> Mengla (43 km); Mengla -> Boten (67 km).
Otherwise, I’m currently in Thailand and just hoping my return flight with Qatar won’t get canceled.
Oh well... 😉
Just a few words about the loop I did by bike in Yunnan.
Entry and exit
I entered China through the Sino-Vietnamese border crossing at Lào Cai / Hekou under the 30-day visa exemption currently available to French nationals and others.
The process was simple and quick. A Chinese police officer even helped me complete my electronic pre-registration at a computer kiosk. I wasn’t aware this formality was required—it’s similar to Thailand’s TM6.
No issues with the bike.
I left the country via the Sino-Laotian border crossing at Mohan / Boten.
The atmosphere was a bit chaotic there, but again, no problems with the bike.
The timing
I visited Yunnan in February 2026.
Weather-wise, at higher altitudes (between 1,500 and 2,000 meters), it was around ten degrees at night and in the mornings, and around twenty degrees at the hottest part of the day.
I had two days of rain, so I took the bus to keep moving. Otherwise, clear blue skies.
Culturally, Chinese New Year fell on February 17th (and the 15 days following), right in the middle of my trip. Because of this, my take on the traffic might be off.
Accommodation and food I always found a hotel to stay in for prices ranging from 8 to 15 €. Except in Kunming (the capital), where many hotels were fully booked (Chinese New Year). I ended up at a 100 € hotel with great value for money.
A bowl of noodles costs about 1.5 € on average.
Onboard electronics Since my smartphone doesn’t support eSIMs, I subscribed to a China plan with my carrier. Otherwise, for much cheaper, Alipay offers eSIMs for foreigners that allow access to services usually blocked for Chinese users (WhatsApp, Facebook, etc.).
An internet connection is essential for paying with Alipay or WeChat, as this payment method is widespread.
I only managed to use Alipay.
Either way, always carry cash because sometimes there’s no signal, or the merchant only accepts WeChat.
Also, it’s best to bring a power adapter when you arrive rather than struggling to find one.
Traffic and roads The Chinese aren’t reckless drivers. They follow traffic rules and watch out for cyclists. This is slightly less true in Xishuangbanna (the region bordering Myanmar and Laos).
In urban areas, there are almost always wide bike lanes, separated from other roads, where bikes, electric mini-scooters, and scooters share the space pretty harmoniously.
The roads are in great condition, and traffic is generally manageable—even light—except for one stretch (Eshan -> Yangwu).
Most traffic is absorbed by expressways, China’s equivalent of highways: toll roads that are off-limits to slow vehicles.
You’re never far from these expressways; sometimes you even ride alongside them, which can be noisy at times.
The climbs are usually reasonable, around 5% to 6%. From what I remember, the steepest section was between Menglun and Mengla, with gradients of 8% to 10%, sometimes more.
Riding at these altitudes—though modest—took a bit of getting used to.
The route I didn’t plan anything in advance. My only goal was to reach Kunming. I don’t know why, but just hearing the name of that city, like Yunnan, always felt dreamy to me.
Here’s the breakdown: Hekou -> Man Hao (94 km); Man Hao -> Yuanyang (64 km); Yuanyang -> Jianshui (bus); Jianshui -> Tong Hai (78 km); Tong Hai -> Chenjiang (85 km); Chenjiang -> Kunming (60 km); Kunming -> Kunyang (60 km); Kunyang -> Eshan (67 km); Eshan -> Yangwu (58 km); Yangwu -> Yuanjiang (59 km); Yuanjiang -> Pu'er (bus); Pu'er -> Dadugang (75 km); Dadugang -> Jinghong (80 km); Jinghong -> Menglun (67 km); Menglun -> Mengyuancun (51 km); Mengyuancun -> Mengla (43 km); Mengla -> Boten (67 km).
Otherwise, I’m currently in Thailand and just hoping my return flight with Qatar won’t get canceled.
Oh well... 😉
