alors pour résumer, surtout, pour ceux qui comptent passer à koh kong, retenez bien : koh kong guesthouse : sur la blacklist please !
Koh Kong guesthouse: à éviter (Cambodge)
by Jeanseb
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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faudrait trop faire une blacklist des hotels et guesthouses, je suis sérieux.
comme les compagnies aériennes en fait.
en tout cas celle de koh kong guesthouse doit y figurer absolument : on s'est fait séduire par la connexion wifi et le billard à disposition mais le patron est un beau-parleur qui t'embobine vite, te pousse a la consommation. il nous a vendu un tour en bateau sur l'ile de koh kong avec des prestations pas du tout a la hauteur, surtout pour le prix : 50 dolls pour 3 (et encore on a négocié), on arrive, on nous dépose sur la première plage, une plage jonchées de déchets plastiques, on va même pas à une autre plages, aucune explication sur rien, normal les 2 cambodgiens qui nous ont conduit en bateau parlaient presque pas anglais, un ptit repas barbeuk vite fait au milieu, et c'est reparti en passant par des mangroves dont on avait rien à faire. il nous avait dit ouais clear water, very good snorkeling, many coral reefs and many fishs, enfin bref je vous passe les détails : un portrait du paradis presque à l'entendre, et quand on arrive la-bas, rien de tout ça, mais alors l'eau est d'une couleur plutot jolie mais pas claire à 1 metre, pas de corail, pas de poisson, impossible d'aller jusqu'au bout de la plage car un militaire qui était là ne veut pas, la totale quoi (sans compter qu'on s'est fait "bip" par les mouches de sables !). on pensait peu-être qu'ils nous amènerait sur une autre plage l'après-midi, on avait espoir...que néni ! alors surtout quand on vient de thailande et qu'on a vu des trucs très sympas rien qu'a koh chang, on est forcément gavé déçu. du coup on en parle au gars au retour, onlui explique qu'on est très déçu, qu'on a absolument pas pu faire de snorkelling, la plage paradisiaque avec des tonnes de déchets ramenés par les courants, pas moyen de convaincre les gars qui nous avaient amené d'aller sur une auter plage (surtout que sur le lonely ils disaient que la 6eme plage abritait un lagon magnifique, bref, on essaye de négocier et se faire rembourser au moins une partie, mais le gars nous a encore blablaté, se justifiant par diverses explications toutes aussi nulles, et on sentait qu'il était de mauvaise foie.
au final on a failli ne pas payer pour les chambres pour se faire justice, mais du coup il a commencé à s'énerver un peu, et comme on venait juste d'arriver au cambodge, qu'on était pas sur de savoir si on devait avoir peur ou pas, si c'était du lard ou du cochon, et comme on devait partir pour prendre le bus en plus, on a finalement lâcher l'affaire (on se demande si on aurait du): en tout cas on l'a bien eu mauvaise, genre c'est quoi cette ville de merde à la frontière, on était pressé de s'arracher de là au plus vite pour avoir une autre impression du cambodge.
surtout qu'après on a acheté notre ticket de bus et pris notre ptit dej le matin dans une autre guest, qui était conseillée par le lonely (otto) et là, on s'est dit de suite : "on s'est trompé de guesthouse !" c'était que du bonheur ces gens. c'est dire comment un petit choix peut avoir des conséquences jusqu'a quasiment tout changer, dans un voyage.
là on est arrivé à sianoukville on s'y sent dejà mieux, surtout à la guesthouse ou l'on se trouve : geckozy, tenue par un expat français qui nous filent les bons plans du coin. on va ptet y rester un ptite semaine du coup.
alors pour résumer, surtout, pour ceux qui comptent passer à koh kong, retenez bien : koh kong guesthouse : sur la blacklist please !
alors pour résumer, surtout, pour ceux qui comptent passer à koh kong, retenez bien : koh kong guesthouse : sur la blacklist please !
you have to make your own fun
Franchement on a du mal à comprendre ce qui s'est si mal passé. On vous a vendu un tour à un tarif qui n'a rien de très exagéré a priori (si c'est bien pour trois, et non par personne - 10 euros avec transports, bateau et repas, on a connu pire). On vous a emmené sur l'île de Koh Kong, voir la mangrove et déposé sur une plage...qui malheureusement était pollué (ça existe en Thaïlande aussi...) on peut pas mettre ça sur le compte de la guesthouse...ni le coup des insectes...
Heureusement que vous avez payé!
J'édite, je vois qu'ils avaient parlé de coraux et de poissons...donc effectivement y'a peut-être eu une petite exagération...mais bon, le genre de choses fréquentes dans les endroits touristiques d'Asie du sud-est...
Heureusement que vous avez payé!
J'édite, je vois qu'ils avaient parlé de coraux et de poissons...donc effectivement y'a peut-être eu une petite exagération...mais bon, le genre de choses fréquentes dans les endroits touristiques d'Asie du sud-est...
Si tu as du mal à comprendre notre déception, c'est que je ne t'ai peu-etre pas bien expliquer, ou que tu as l'habitude de passer au dessus de ces arnaques qui devraient être une fatalité.
déja on a payé donc environ 12 euros par personnes, pour un prestation plus que décevante, comparé à la thailande par exemple, ou les prix ont déjà quasiment doublé pour pas mal de choses en dix ans, on a encore beaucoup mieux, et pour moins cher svp, dans pas mal d'iles du sud (je parle pas des iles comme phuket et koh phiphi biensur)
non mais sans compter le prix de la prestation et son contenu (on était au courant que au cambodge c'est pas aussi bien qu'en thailande au niveau des iles), c'est surtout le gars qui tient la guest qui nous a foutu les glandes : il s'est clairement payer notre tête, on le voyait qu'il avait été malhonnete, ya pas de doute dessus, on s'est très bien ce qu'il s'est dit dans sa tête sans pour autant être devin :"tiens, encore des touristes sur qui je vais pouvoir me faire un putain de beurre dessus, en leur proposant une excursion pas folichonne, avec une marge de 90% et en payant peanuts mes employés bien sur".
nous, on accepte pas ce genre de comportement, du moins on essaye :-)
ceux qui étaient avec nous, d'autres touristes étrangers un peu routards aussi, l'avaient aussi mauvaise que nous, rassurer vous, ce n'est pas un caprice qu'on fait là. j'ai l'habitude de voyager à la routard, je crois savoir démêler l'acceptable du non-acceptable à présent, et là c'était vraiment abusé car il nous a fait un putain de speech pour nous emboibiner, bravo, il est fort, c'est un vrai business man...une vraie grosse merde je veux dire oui, si ya moyen de lui faire une crasse je signe desuite, d'ailleurs c'est ce que j'essaye de faire sur ce forum, ça lui enlevera peu-etre quelques clients, c'est ptet pas grand chose mais c'est pour le principe au moins.
et puis si ça se trouve ceux qui passent avant nous avaient peu-etre l'habitude de laisser couler et de se dire :"bon on s'est fait avoir, prenons le avec philosophie et fermons bien notre gueule surtout". du coup ce genre de comportement peut pourrir des lieux et des gens, il a peu-être été alors surpris qu'on se rebelle.
mais ya pas moyen qu'on la ferme et qu'on laisse passer ça, on lui a dit ce qu'on pensait au moins, ne serais que par respect pour les prochains, car si tout le monde fait comme nous il hésitera peu-ête à force d'avoir des conflits et s'il ne veut pas que sa guesthouse ait une mauvaise réputation. mais ce genre de personnage ne voit hélas qu'a court terme je pense.
enfin voila, c'est pas un caprice de voyageurs qui ont des standards trop difficiles à satisfaire, garanti.
you have to make your own fun
Ouais je comprends. Si ca s'est passé comme ça, ca pue, pas de doute.
Si je dois aller à Koh Kong, j'éviterai la guesthouse en question.
Rageant, mais disons que ça n'est pas l'arnaque du siècle...Plutôt des petites ambiguïtés qui sont quand même assez (pas trop non plus) fréquentes, en Thaïlande comme au Cambodge.
Koh Sukorn, province de Trang, sud Thaïlande, aout 2011: on m'a offert dans une guesthouse une banane coupée en rondelles qui m'a été comptée 50bath sur la note finale avant de partir.
Rageant, mais disons que ça n'est pas l'arnaque du siècle...Plutôt des petites ambiguïtés qui sont quand même assez (pas trop non plus) fréquentes, en Thaïlande comme au Cambodge.
Koh Sukorn, province de Trang, sud Thaïlande, aout 2011: on m'a offert dans une guesthouse une banane coupée en rondelles qui m'a été comptée 50bath sur la note finale avant de partir.
biensur ça n'est pas l'arnaque du siècle.
je sais relativiser, tinquietes, on s'est rien fait voler, pas de problème d'insécurité, enfin bref c'est bien entendu un détail comparé à d'autres problèmes qui pourraient être autrement plus grave (vols de passeport ou d'argent, maladies, aggressions, pris par la police avec de la drogue, ou que sais-je d'autre d'horrible)
je voulais juste pousser mon coup de gueule et avertir les voyageurs de ne pas aller à cette guesthouse, ca leur évitera autant des désagréments que ça me fera plaisir de lui ruiner son business.
on peut pas dire que ce genre de problèmes soit "fréquents" en asie du sud-est, disons que ça arrive, heurement pas trop souvent, mais toujours trop à mon goût, et je pense qu'il faut lutter contre cela pour ne pas pourrir les endroits et les mentalités des locaux; après, chacun a sa manière.
you have to make your own fun
Et bien moi j'en arrive de cet endroit et le "sale type" en question s'est comporté tout-à-fait normalement, voire plutôt sympa. Les prix sont normaux aussi, ainsi que les prestations.Comme quoi, hein, les "coups et les douleurs"...Mais quand-bien même je n'eusse pas été contente, j'aurais passé mon chemin, sans en faire un roman dramatique et revanchard...Car je n'aurais gardé que le côté positif...Un peu d'humilité en voyage ne nuit pas. Et puis un petit conseil: On ne compare jamais 2 pays. Question culture, économie, passé historique, etc...Il y a un abyme entre le Cambodge et la Thailande.
Tant mieux pour toi si tout s'est bien passé, peu-être que ça a changé depuis. Au fait as-tu fait l'excursion jusqu'à l'île koh kong ? L'eau était-elle claire et y-avait-il beaucoup de poissons et de coraux quand tu as fait du snorkelling ? pas non plus de mouches des sables ni de militaires avec leur kalach au bout la plage ? combien de plages avez-vous visité ?
en tout cas quand je ne suis pas content et que j'ai l'impression que le gars n'est pas très honnête, je fais partagé aux voyageurs afin qu'ils se méfient.
Entre la Thailande et le Cambodge, ces deux pays frontaliers, même s'ils sont bien différents on peut trouver aussi pas mal de points de convergence à mon avis, et je trouve amusant de comparer certaines choses.
you have to make your own fun
merci😉 d, avoir partagé sur ta mauvaise expérience c, est toujours bon à savoir meme si notre propre vécu peut-etre différent..je pars demain pour là-bas et s'il a agi de cette facon meme si c, est une exception et bien pour moi cela doit etre écrit..
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Semporna → Tawau: Found this via AI—is it legit? No online booking, as far as I can tell. Minivans leave from a stop in the Jalan Hospital area, near the Milimewa supermarket, supposedly???? And when you arrive, does it drop you at **Sabindo Square** in Tawau?????
Thanks for any tips—I’m stuck!
My trip’s coming up, and I’m having a bit of trouble with three bus/minivan routes. Usually, I find everything at this time of year, but this time—yikes!
Sandakan → Sepilok: No app for this one—you just hop on bus #14 at the local terminal (pay cash on board). But where do I catch it, and where’s the stop??
Sandakan → Semporna: From what I’ve heard, it’s the Sida Express company (great name, right? 😄). Can’t book online, but apparently, you *have* to because there’s only one bus at 8 AM. Where do I board, and where does it drop me off?
Semporna → Tawau: Found this via AI—is it legit? No online booking, as far as I can tell. Minivans leave from a stop in the Jalan Hospital area, near the Milimewa supermarket, supposedly???? And when you arrive, does it drop you at **Sabindo Square** in Tawau?????
Thanks for any tips—I’m stuck!
Hi there,
we’ll be in Mai Chau in June and we’re thinking of heading to Sapa, but first spending a few days in Bac Ha to do some hiking and explore the area.
Is this a good idea for those who’ve been there?
How do you get there?
Thanks for your feedback.
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Cédric.
Hi everyone. As I’m planning my trip for next winter, I’m looking for hotel suggestions in Camotes, Bantayan, Malapascua, Bohol, and Siquijor. The ones I had in mind seem to be fully booked (unless it’s too early?). For those familiar with the area, is it easy to find accommodations on the spot in January/February? I’m specifically looking for hotels with a pool, beachfront, air conditioning, and easy scooter rental nearby. Thanks for your tips!
Hi there,
I’m planning an itinerary and would love some feedback on whether it’s doable and if the number of days per destination is enough—or too much. I was also debating whether to add an extra night on an island or spend an extra night in Kampot to visit Kep or Battambang.
March 23: Arrival in Phnom Penh in the morning March 24: Phnom Penh March 25: Phnom Penh March 26: Depart for Kampot March 27: Kampot March 28: Depart for Battambang March 29: Battambang March 30: Tonlé SAP to Siem Reap March 31: Siem Reap April 1: Siem Reap April 2: Siem Reap April 3: Siem Reap April 4: Siem Reap April 5: Departure
Thanks for any suggestions or help!
March 23: Arrival in Phnom Penh in the morning March 24: Phnom Penh March 25: Phnom Penh March 26: Depart for Kampot March 27: Kampot March 28: Depart for Battambang March 29: Battambang March 30: Tonlé SAP to Siem Reap March 31: Siem Reap April 1: Siem Reap April 2: Siem Reap April 3: Siem Reap April 4: Siem Reap April 5: Departure
Thanks for any suggestions or help!
Hi there,
Yesterday in the Thailand section, 100% of the new threads were just about beach destinations 😕...
So here’s the counterattack in the form of this photo thread, dedicated solely to the countryside: the locals, their livestock, fields, farms, rice paddies, small rivers, and agricultural machinery. If you’ve got any pictures that fit these categories, feel free to add them!
Comments welcome.
For each photo, I’ll (or you can) indicate the area where it was taken.
Kanchanaburi:
Kanchanaburi:
Sri Chiangmai:
Soppong:
Tha Wang Pha:
Kanchanaburi:

Kanchanaburi:

Sri Chiangmai:

Soppong:

Tha Wang Pha:

🙂 Hi everyone!
Hope you're all doing well! It's been a while since I last traveled, but I'm finally heading out again soon!
For those familiar with SOUTHEAST ASIA, I'm planning to leave in mid-June (with the trip ending at the latest in November), and I don’t have a precise idea of exact places or itineraries yet. The thing is, this period is usually the rainy season...
Any advice? I was thinking of Malaysia or Indonesia, like Sulawesi, for example (all countries and islands in Southeast Asia interest me except Bali).
Any recommendations? I’m doing my research online, but if anyone here has the time and knowledge, I’d love to hear from you.
Thanks everyone, take care and stay happy! ❤️
Hope you're all doing well! It's been a while since I last traveled, but I'm finally heading out again soon!
For those familiar with SOUTHEAST ASIA, I'm planning to leave in mid-June (with the trip ending at the latest in November), and I don’t have a precise idea of exact places or itineraries yet. The thing is, this period is usually the rainy season...
Any advice? I was thinking of Malaysia or Indonesia, like Sulawesi, for example (all countries and islands in Southeast Asia interest me except Bali).
Any recommendations? I’m doing my research online, but if anyone here has the time and knowledge, I’d love to hear from you.
Thanks everyone, take care and stay happy! ❤️
Hi there,
My partner and I are planning a trip to Indonesia in September-October 2026. It’ll be our first time in Asia, and we’re thinking of hitting the classic spots in East Java and Bali, then wrapping up with a cruise around Komodo for some snorkeling/diving. Here’s a rough draft of our itinerary—I’m wondering if it’s doable.
20/09: Flight from Jakarta to Yogyakarta, arrive around noon, afternoon/evening and overnight in Yogyakarta. 21/09: Borobudur 22/09: Prambanan 23/09: Travel to Bromo (Cemoro Lawang) 24/09: Bromo 25/09: Kawa Ijen 26/09: Travel to Bali, overnight in Pemuteran 27/09: Excursion to Pulau Melujan, overnight in Pemuteran 28/09: Travel to Munduk, overnight in Munduk 29/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk 30/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk 01/10: Route to Ubud (via Pura Ulu Danau Bratan, Jatiluwih?), overnight in Ubud 02/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud 03/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud 04/10: Travel to Denpasar, flight to Labuan Bajo, overnight in Labuan Bajo 05/10: Komodo cruise 06/10: Komodo cruise 07/10: Komodo cruise, flight to Denpasar in the late afternoon/evening or overnight in Labuan Bajo. 08/10: Flight to Denpasar (if not taken the day before), afternoon in Jimbaran, overnight near Denpasar 09/10: 10:00 AM flight Denpasar - SIN, overnight in Singapore 10/10: Flight SIN-YQB
Thanks for your thoughts—and for your time!
My partner and I are planning a trip to Indonesia in September-October 2026. It’ll be our first time in Asia, and we’re thinking of hitting the classic spots in East Java and Bali, then wrapping up with a cruise around Komodo for some snorkeling/diving. Here’s a rough draft of our itinerary—I’m wondering if it’s doable.
20/09: Flight from Jakarta to Yogyakarta, arrive around noon, afternoon/evening and overnight in Yogyakarta. 21/09: Borobudur 22/09: Prambanan 23/09: Travel to Bromo (Cemoro Lawang) 24/09: Bromo 25/09: Kawa Ijen 26/09: Travel to Bali, overnight in Pemuteran 27/09: Excursion to Pulau Melujan, overnight in Pemuteran 28/09: Travel to Munduk, overnight in Munduk 29/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk 30/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk 01/10: Route to Ubud (via Pura Ulu Danau Bratan, Jatiluwih?), overnight in Ubud 02/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud 03/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud 04/10: Travel to Denpasar, flight to Labuan Bajo, overnight in Labuan Bajo 05/10: Komodo cruise 06/10: Komodo cruise 07/10: Komodo cruise, flight to Denpasar in the late afternoon/evening or overnight in Labuan Bajo. 08/10: Flight to Denpasar (if not taken the day before), afternoon in Jimbaran, overnight near Denpasar 09/10: 10:00 AM flight Denpasar - SIN, overnight in Singapore 10/10: Flight SIN-YQB
Thanks for your thoughts—and for your time!
Hi everyone,
My girlfriend and I booked our tickets with Saudia Airlines for a trip to Thailand this summer, from July 5th to August 3rd. Given the geopolitical situation in the Middle East, we’re keeping a close eye on the news.
I was wondering if anyone here is in the same situation as us?
• Have you heard anything about possible mass cancellations or if the airline is still maintaining its routes to Asia?
• Are there any travelers who’ve recently returned who could tell us if air corridors have been changed (longer flight times)?
The idea is to know what to expect so we can prepare as best as possible. Thanks for your replies! !
Hi everyone,
Thanks for all your contributions on the forum—they’ve really helped me plan my trip. There are four of us friends heading to Sulawesi for 20 days. Based on all your advice, I’ve put together the following itinerary:
July 30: Makassar – sightseeing July 31: Makassar – sightseeing + overnight bus to Rantepao August 1–7: Tana Toraja with a guide August 7: Tana Toraja to Tentena + visit Tentena August 8: Early departure with a private driver to Ampana, then ferry to the Togian Islands August 9–15: Togian Islands (2 different resorts) August 15: Depart Togian Islands for Luwuk August 16: Flight Luwuk to Makassar August 17: Rammang Rammang August 18: Stroll in Makassar, then return home
Overall, what do you think?
I also have a question about the connection between Tentena and the Togian Islands: Is it doable to leave early in the morning as planned and still be sure not to miss the ferry?
Thanks in advance for your feedback! :)
Thanks for all your contributions on the forum—they’ve really helped me plan my trip. There are four of us friends heading to Sulawesi for 20 days. Based on all your advice, I’ve put together the following itinerary:
July 30: Makassar – sightseeing July 31: Makassar – sightseeing + overnight bus to Rantepao August 1–7: Tana Toraja with a guide August 7: Tana Toraja to Tentena + visit Tentena August 8: Early departure with a private driver to Ampana, then ferry to the Togian Islands August 9–15: Togian Islands (2 different resorts) August 15: Depart Togian Islands for Luwuk August 16: Flight Luwuk to Makassar August 17: Rammang Rammang August 18: Stroll in Makassar, then return home
Overall, what do you think?
I also have a question about the connection between Tentena and the Togian Islands: Is it doable to leave early in the morning as planned and still be sure not to miss the ferry?
Thanks in advance for your feedback! :)
Hi everyone,
I’m currently working on a 30-day itinerary for May/June 2027.
10 days in eastern Java (Malang, Bromo, waterfalls, Meru Beriti Park, Banyuwangi, and Ijen), a short transit in Ubud for a few days, then Flores before heading back to Jakarta.
We’ll spend 15 days in Flores (the classic route: Moni, Bajawa, Riung, Ruteng, ending in Labuan Bajo).
I’d love some firsthand feedback on flights to Maumere or Ende from Bali Denpasar. I know there are no direct routes and that you have to connect through Labuan Bajo or Timor (I think), which isn’t an issue in itself.
But I’ve read here and there that flights to these destinations can be delayed—or worse, canceled—and that it’s better to fly in and out of Labuan Bajo, which isn’t exactly ideal...
Thanks for any tips or experiences you can share!





