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Marchés ethniques du Nord Vietnam
by Isag94
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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J envisage de monter vers Sapa et Bac Ha en passant par Mu Cang Chai en Août 2012 .Je voudrais savoir où et quels jours je peux trouver des marchés sur cette route et l intérêt des uns par rapport aux autres ?
Vaut il mieux faire CAn Cau ou Bac Ha ou les 2?
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Le marché de Bac Ha est le dimanche matin ; il est très grand et infiniment coloré. Pas mal de touristes mais ils sont noyés dans la masse de milliers de h'mongs Fleurs. Celui de Can Cau (samedi matin), plus petit et spécialisé dans la vente d'animaux, est très intéressant aussi, plus intime, et dans un très beau cadre de montagnes. Il y a aussi les petits marchés de Lung Phin, Ban Pho, etc.
Méfiez-vous de la vie, car les ratés ne vous rateront pas!
Bonjour
Fin novembre nous étions à Can Cau le samedi matin pour le marché. Magnifique coloré les H'mongs fleurs sont très beaux et souriants. Pas de touristes ( peut-être du à la saison mais pour nous c'était magique. Par contre beaucoup de monde à Sapa!!)
Fin novembre nous étions à Can Cau le samedi matin pour le marché. Magnifique coloré les H'mongs fleurs sont très beaux et souriants. Pas de touristes ( peut-être du à la saison mais pour nous c'était magique. Par contre beaucoup de monde à Sapa!!)
Vaut il mieux faire CAn Cau ou Bac Ha ou les 2?
comme le dit larsay, je dirais les 2. en arrivant vendredi soir a bac ha, vous pourrez dormir a bac ha (plus facile qu a can cau) et aller au marche de can cau le samedi matin soit en bus (arrivee tardive et avec relativement plein de monde) soit en louant des motos (autonomie et possibilite de prendre son temps avant et apres, voire de faire un grosse balade, genre retour de lung phin a bac ha par les pistes dans la montagne par tan va chu, comme decrit la: http://voyageforum.com/forum/vietnam_sapa_bac_ha_vus_par_larsay_D3265111/ retour a bac ha le samedi soir et marche de bac ha le dimanche comme partout, les jours de marche, il vaut mieux reserver les hebergements: les bons plans sont remplis a l avance
comme le dit larsay, je dirais les 2. en arrivant vendredi soir a bac ha, vous pourrez dormir a bac ha (plus facile qu a can cau) et aller au marche de can cau le samedi matin soit en bus (arrivee tardive et avec relativement plein de monde) soit en louant des motos (autonomie et possibilite de prendre son temps avant et apres, voire de faire un grosse balade, genre retour de lung phin a bac ha par les pistes dans la montagne par tan va chu, comme decrit la: http://voyageforum.com/forum/vietnam_sapa_bac_ha_vus_par_larsay_D3265111/ retour a bac ha le samedi soir et marche de bac ha le dimanche comme partout, les jours de marche, il vaut mieux reserver les hebergements: les bons plans sont remplis a l avance
savoir où et quels jours je peux trouver des marchés sur cette route et l intérêt des uns par rapport aux autres ?
Sur la route de Sapa en passant par Mu Cang Chai, vous passez par Nghia Lo (Photos de 1 à 14), Nga Ba Tu (Photos 15 et 16), Than Uyên, le marché est quotidien et vous trouvez une multitude de minorités très variées.
Autour de Sapa, vous avez Muong Huong (Dimanche), Muong Khuong (Dimanche), Cóc Ly (Mardi), Cán Câu (Samedi), Bác Hà et Lung Phin (Dimanche)
Suite au prochain message ...
Sur la route de Sapa en passant par Mu Cang Chai, vous passez par Nghia Lo (Photos de 1 à 14), Nga Ba Tu (Photos 15 et 16), Than Uyên, le marché est quotidien et vous trouvez une multitude de minorités très variées.
Autour de Sapa, vous avez Muong Huong (Dimanche), Muong Khuong (Dimanche), Cóc Ly (Mardi), Cán Câu (Samedi), Bác Hà et Lung Phin (Dimanche)
Suite au prochain message ...
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Lucky that we have a home/Our Home is Nha May Man/Passing rain and dry seasons/In a full-of-love atmosphere/Besides my new family/I have brothers and sisters/The sun shines over the skies/Let's stay here, with all of us,
W've got home;
Lucky that we have a home/Our Home is Nha May Man/Passing rain and dry seasons/In a full-of-love atmosphere/Besides my new family/I have brothers and sisters/The sun shines over the skies/Let's stay here, with all of us,
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savoir où et quels jours je peux trouver des marchés sur cette route et l intérêt des uns par rapport aux autres ?
Vaut il mieux faire CAn Cau ou Bac Ha ou les 2?
Than Uyên (Photos 1 à 6), le marché est quotidien ...
Than Uyên (Photos 1 à 6), le marché est quotidien ...
http://www.maison-chance.org/
Lucky that we have a home/Our Home is Nha May Man/Passing rain and dry seasons/In a full-of-love atmosphere/Besides my new family/I have brothers and sisters/The sun shines over the skies/Let's stay here, with all of us,
W've got home;
Lucky that we have a home/Our Home is Nha May Man/Passing rain and dry seasons/In a full-of-love atmosphere/Besides my new family/I have brothers and sisters/The sun shines over the skies/Let's stay here, with all of us,
W've got home;
savoir où et quels jours je peux trouver des marchés sur cette route et l intérêt des uns par rapport aux autres ?
Autour de Sapa (marché quotidien): Photos 1 à 6, vous avez Muong Khuong (Dimanche): Photos 7 à 20.
Suite au prochain message ...
Autour de Sapa (marché quotidien): Photos 1 à 6, vous avez Muong Khuong (Dimanche): Photos 7 à 20.
Suite au prochain message ...
http://www.maison-chance.org/
Lucky that we have a home/Our Home is Nha May Man/Passing rain and dry seasons/In a full-of-love atmosphere/Besides my new family/I have brothers and sisters/The sun shines over the skies/Let's stay here, with all of us,
W've got home;
Lucky that we have a home/Our Home is Nha May Man/Passing rain and dry seasons/In a full-of-love atmosphere/Besides my new family/I have brothers and sisters/The sun shines over the skies/Let's stay here, with all of us,
W've got home;
savoir où et quels jours je peux trouver des marchés sur cette route et l intérêt des uns par rapport aux autres ?
Muong Huong (Dimanche): Photos de 1 à 10, Cóc Ly (Mardi), Cán Câu (Samedi): Photos de 11 à 15, Bác Hà (Photos de 16 à 20) et Lung Phin (Dimanche)
Vous retrouvez exactement les mêmes minorités à Cóc Ly, Cán Câu, Lung Phin et Bác Hà.
Fin
Muong Huong (Dimanche): Photos de 1 à 10, Cóc Ly (Mardi), Cán Câu (Samedi): Photos de 11 à 15, Bác Hà (Photos de 16 à 20) et Lung Phin (Dimanche)
Vous retrouvez exactement les mêmes minorités à Cóc Ly, Cán Câu, Lung Phin et Bác Hà.
Fin
http://www.maison-chance.org/
Lucky that we have a home/Our Home is Nha May Man/Passing rain and dry seasons/In a full-of-love atmosphere/Besides my new family/I have brothers and sisters/The sun shines over the skies/Let's stay here, with all of us,
W've got home;
Lucky that we have a home/Our Home is Nha May Man/Passing rain and dry seasons/In a full-of-love atmosphere/Besides my new family/I have brothers and sisters/The sun shines over the skies/Let's stay here, with all of us,
W've got home;
Bonjour,
Vous postez de superbes photos😏, pouvez vous nous indentifier les ethnies représentées? sont elles toutes Hmong?
Bonne journée..
Vous postez de superbes photos😏, pouvez vous nous indentifier les ethnies représentées? sont elles toutes Hmong?
Bonne journée..
Pour bien aimer un pays il faut le manger, le boire et l’entendre chanter. (Michel Déon)
Encore une petite question 😊
Sachant que les jours précédents je fais la route Hanoi-MuCang Chai - Than Uyen-Sapa et que sur la route nous verrons déjà des marchés dont sûr celui de Than Uyen ( mais je pense plus petits ? ) . Vaut-il mieux le Dimanche matin faire Bac Ha ou Muong Hum ( je préfère éviter la foule bien sûr mais aussi voir des choses différentes ) ?
En gros par rapport aux marchés que j'aurai vus sur la route lequel des 2 entre Bac Ha et Muong Hum sera le plus "dépaysant" ?
Sachant que les jours précédents je fais la route Hanoi-MuCang Chai - Than Uyen-Sapa et que sur la route nous verrons déjà des marchés dont sûr celui de Than Uyen ( mais je pense plus petits ? ) . Vaut-il mieux le Dimanche matin faire Bac Ha ou Muong Hum ( je préfère éviter la foule bien sûr mais aussi voir des choses différentes ) ?
En gros par rapport aux marchés que j'aurai vus sur la route lequel des 2 entre Bac Ha et Muong Hum sera le plus "dépaysant" ?
En gros par rapport aux marchés que j'aurai vus sur la route lequel des 2 entre Bac Ha et Muong Hum sera le plus "dépaysant" ?
Ayant fait les 2 marchés, je vote pour le marché de Muong Hum. A la place des Hmongs Fleurs, vous avez des Ha Nhi en grand nombre, mais vous pourrez aussi voir des Hmongs Blancs.
Les autres minorités (Muong, Nung ...), vous avez dé jà vu tout le long de la route de Mù Cang Chai jusqu'à Than Uyên.
Muong Hum est plus près de Sapa, une heure de route. Vous pouvez donc dormir confortablement à Sapa avant d'y aller.
De Sapa, vous n'avez que 6 km de route rocailleuse contre 29 km si l'on part de Lào Cai.
Bac Hà, 90% sont des Hmongs Fleurs et il y a autant de touristes que de gens des minorités🙂, alors qu'on ne dépasse pas la douzaine de touristes à Muong Hum.
Si vous voulez absolument voir des Hmongs Fleurs, il y a l'alternative de Muong Khum plus diversifié à part égale entre les Hmongs Fleurs et les autres (Nùng, Phù Lá ...) et un ou deux touristes par Dimanche.
Ayant fait les 2 marchés, je vote pour le marché de Muong Hum. A la place des Hmongs Fleurs, vous avez des Ha Nhi en grand nombre, mais vous pourrez aussi voir des Hmongs Blancs.
Les autres minorités (Muong, Nung ...), vous avez dé jà vu tout le long de la route de Mù Cang Chai jusqu'à Than Uyên.
Muong Hum est plus près de Sapa, une heure de route. Vous pouvez donc dormir confortablement à Sapa avant d'y aller.
De Sapa, vous n'avez que 6 km de route rocailleuse contre 29 km si l'on part de Lào Cai.
Bac Hà, 90% sont des Hmongs Fleurs et il y a autant de touristes que de gens des minorités🙂, alors qu'on ne dépasse pas la douzaine de touristes à Muong Hum.
Si vous voulez absolument voir des Hmongs Fleurs, il y a l'alternative de Muong Khum plus diversifié à part égale entre les Hmongs Fleurs et les autres (Nùng, Phù Lá ...) et un ou deux touristes par Dimanche.
http://www.maison-chance.org/
Lucky that we have a home/Our Home is Nha May Man/Passing rain and dry seasons/In a full-of-love atmosphere/Besides my new family/I have brothers and sisters/The sun shines over the skies/Let's stay here, with all of us,
W've got home;
Lucky that we have a home/Our Home is Nha May Man/Passing rain and dry seasons/In a full-of-love atmosphere/Besides my new family/I have brothers and sisters/The sun shines over the skies/Let's stay here, with all of us,
W've got home;
combien de route pour Muong Khum de Sapa ?
Muong Khuong se trouve à environ 80 km de Sapa, 2 heures de bonne route. Je dormirais sur place dans un très bon hôtel qui n'est pas cher du tout (15 USD/nuit).
Vous pouvez amener votre Iphone et avec une SIM de Viettel, vous verrez la route qui vous amène🙂
Muong Khuong se trouve à environ 80 km de Sapa, 2 heures de bonne route. Je dormirais sur place dans un très bon hôtel qui n'est pas cher du tout (15 USD/nuit).
Vous pouvez amener votre Iphone et avec une SIM de Viettel, vous verrez la route qui vous amène🙂
http://www.maison-chance.org/
Lucky that we have a home/Our Home is Nha May Man/Passing rain and dry seasons/In a full-of-love atmosphere/Besides my new family/I have brothers and sisters/The sun shines over the skies/Let's stay here, with all of us,
W've got home;
Lucky that we have a home/Our Home is Nha May Man/Passing rain and dry seasons/In a full-of-love atmosphere/Besides my new family/I have brothers and sisters/The sun shines over the skies/Let's stay here, with all of us,
W've got home;
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While traveling in Thailand, I’m looking for a Buddhist kumlai reed bracelet.
Does anyone know where I can find one?
In Bangkok, I visited a few temples but didn’t see any in the nearby shops.
If you have any ideas, I’d love to hear them! Have a great day! :-)
Hi there
My trip’s coming up, and I’m having a bit of trouble with three bus/minivan routes. Usually, I find everything at this time of year, but this time—yikes!
Sandakan → Sepilok: No app for this one—you just hop on bus #14 at the local terminal (pay cash on board). But where do I catch it, and where’s the stop??
Sandakan → Semporna: From what I’ve heard, it’s the Sida Express company (great name, right? 😄). Can’t book online, but apparently, you *have* to because there’s only one bus at 8 AM. Where do I board, and where does it drop me off?
Semporna → Tawau: Found this via AI—is it legit? No online booking, as far as I can tell. Minivans leave from a stop in the Jalan Hospital area, near the Milimewa supermarket, supposedly???? And when you arrive, does it drop you at **Sabindo Square** in Tawau?????
Thanks for any tips—I’m stuck!
My trip’s coming up, and I’m having a bit of trouble with three bus/minivan routes. Usually, I find everything at this time of year, but this time—yikes!
Sandakan → Sepilok: No app for this one—you just hop on bus #14 at the local terminal (pay cash on board). But where do I catch it, and where’s the stop??
Sandakan → Semporna: From what I’ve heard, it’s the Sida Express company (great name, right? 😄). Can’t book online, but apparently, you *have* to because there’s only one bus at 8 AM. Where do I board, and where does it drop me off?
Semporna → Tawau: Found this via AI—is it legit? No online booking, as far as I can tell. Minivans leave from a stop in the Jalan Hospital area, near the Milimewa supermarket, supposedly???? And when you arrive, does it drop you at **Sabindo Square** in Tawau?????
Thanks for any tips—I’m stuck!
Hi there,
we’ll be in Mai Chau in June and we’re thinking of heading to Sapa, but first spending a few days in Bac Ha to do some hiking and explore the area.
Is this a good idea for those who’ve been there?
How do you get there?
Thanks for your feedback.
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Cédric.
Hi everyone. As I’m planning my trip for next winter, I’m looking for hotel suggestions in Camotes, Bantayan, Malapascua, Bohol, and Siquijor. The ones I had in mind seem to be fully booked (unless it’s too early?). For those familiar with the area, is it easy to find accommodations on the spot in January/February? I’m specifically looking for hotels with a pool, beachfront, air conditioning, and easy scooter rental nearby. Thanks for your tips!
Hi there,
I’m planning an itinerary and would love some feedback on whether it’s doable and if the number of days per destination is enough—or too much. I was also debating whether to add an extra night on an island or spend an extra night in Kampot to visit Kep or Battambang.
March 23: Arrival in Phnom Penh in the morning March 24: Phnom Penh March 25: Phnom Penh March 26: Depart for Kampot March 27: Kampot March 28: Depart for Battambang March 29: Battambang March 30: Tonlé SAP to Siem Reap March 31: Siem Reap April 1: Siem Reap April 2: Siem Reap April 3: Siem Reap April 4: Siem Reap April 5: Departure
Thanks for any suggestions or help!
March 23: Arrival in Phnom Penh in the morning March 24: Phnom Penh March 25: Phnom Penh March 26: Depart for Kampot March 27: Kampot March 28: Depart for Battambang March 29: Battambang March 30: Tonlé SAP to Siem Reap March 31: Siem Reap April 1: Siem Reap April 2: Siem Reap April 3: Siem Reap April 4: Siem Reap April 5: Departure
Thanks for any suggestions or help!
Hi there,
Yesterday in the Thailand section, 100% of the new threads were just about beach destinations 😕...
So here’s the counterattack in the form of this photo thread, dedicated solely to the countryside: the locals, their livestock, fields, farms, rice paddies, small rivers, and agricultural machinery. If you’ve got any pictures that fit these categories, feel free to add them!
Comments welcome.
For each photo, I’ll (or you can) indicate the area where it was taken.
Kanchanaburi:
Kanchanaburi:
Sri Chiangmai:
Soppong:
Tha Wang Pha:
Kanchanaburi:

Kanchanaburi:

Sri Chiangmai:

Soppong:

Tha Wang Pha:

🙂 Hi everyone!
Hope you're all doing well! It's been a while since I last traveled, but I'm finally heading out again soon!
For those familiar with SOUTHEAST ASIA, I'm planning to leave in mid-June (with the trip ending at the latest in November), and I don’t have a precise idea of exact places or itineraries yet. The thing is, this period is usually the rainy season...
Any advice? I was thinking of Malaysia or Indonesia, like Sulawesi, for example (all countries and islands in Southeast Asia interest me except Bali).
Any recommendations? I’m doing my research online, but if anyone here has the time and knowledge, I’d love to hear from you.
Thanks everyone, take care and stay happy! ❤️
Hope you're all doing well! It's been a while since I last traveled, but I'm finally heading out again soon!
For those familiar with SOUTHEAST ASIA, I'm planning to leave in mid-June (with the trip ending at the latest in November), and I don’t have a precise idea of exact places or itineraries yet. The thing is, this period is usually the rainy season...
Any advice? I was thinking of Malaysia or Indonesia, like Sulawesi, for example (all countries and islands in Southeast Asia interest me except Bali).
Any recommendations? I’m doing my research online, but if anyone here has the time and knowledge, I’d love to hear from you.
Thanks everyone, take care and stay happy! ❤️
Hi there,
My partner and I are planning a trip to Indonesia in September-October 2026. It’ll be our first time in Asia, and we’re thinking of hitting the classic spots in East Java and Bali, then wrapping up with a cruise around Komodo for some snorkeling/diving. Here’s a rough draft of our itinerary—I’m wondering if it’s doable.
20/09: Flight from Jakarta to Yogyakarta, arrive around noon, afternoon/evening and overnight in Yogyakarta. 21/09: Borobudur 22/09: Prambanan 23/09: Travel to Bromo (Cemoro Lawang) 24/09: Bromo 25/09: Kawa Ijen 26/09: Travel to Bali, overnight in Pemuteran 27/09: Excursion to Pulau Melujan, overnight in Pemuteran 28/09: Travel to Munduk, overnight in Munduk 29/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk 30/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk 01/10: Route to Ubud (via Pura Ulu Danau Bratan, Jatiluwih?), overnight in Ubud 02/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud 03/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud 04/10: Travel to Denpasar, flight to Labuan Bajo, overnight in Labuan Bajo 05/10: Komodo cruise 06/10: Komodo cruise 07/10: Komodo cruise, flight to Denpasar in the late afternoon/evening or overnight in Labuan Bajo. 08/10: Flight to Denpasar (if not taken the day before), afternoon in Jimbaran, overnight near Denpasar 09/10: 10:00 AM flight Denpasar - SIN, overnight in Singapore 10/10: Flight SIN-YQB
Thanks for your thoughts—and for your time!
My partner and I are planning a trip to Indonesia in September-October 2026. It’ll be our first time in Asia, and we’re thinking of hitting the classic spots in East Java and Bali, then wrapping up with a cruise around Komodo for some snorkeling/diving. Here’s a rough draft of our itinerary—I’m wondering if it’s doable.
20/09: Flight from Jakarta to Yogyakarta, arrive around noon, afternoon/evening and overnight in Yogyakarta. 21/09: Borobudur 22/09: Prambanan 23/09: Travel to Bromo (Cemoro Lawang) 24/09: Bromo 25/09: Kawa Ijen 26/09: Travel to Bali, overnight in Pemuteran 27/09: Excursion to Pulau Melujan, overnight in Pemuteran 28/09: Travel to Munduk, overnight in Munduk 29/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk 30/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk 01/10: Route to Ubud (via Pura Ulu Danau Bratan, Jatiluwih?), overnight in Ubud 02/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud 03/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud 04/10: Travel to Denpasar, flight to Labuan Bajo, overnight in Labuan Bajo 05/10: Komodo cruise 06/10: Komodo cruise 07/10: Komodo cruise, flight to Denpasar in the late afternoon/evening or overnight in Labuan Bajo. 08/10: Flight to Denpasar (if not taken the day before), afternoon in Jimbaran, overnight near Denpasar 09/10: 10:00 AM flight Denpasar - SIN, overnight in Singapore 10/10: Flight SIN-YQB
Thanks for your thoughts—and for your time!
Hi everyone,
My girlfriend and I booked our tickets with Saudia Airlines for a trip to Thailand this summer, from July 5th to August 3rd. Given the geopolitical situation in the Middle East, we’re keeping a close eye on the news.
I was wondering if anyone here is in the same situation as us?
• Have you heard anything about possible mass cancellations or if the airline is still maintaining its routes to Asia?
• Are there any travelers who’ve recently returned who could tell us if air corridors have been changed (longer flight times)?
The idea is to know what to expect so we can prepare as best as possible. Thanks for your replies! !
Hi everyone,
Thanks for all your contributions on the forum—they’ve really helped me plan my trip. There are four of us friends heading to Sulawesi for 20 days. Based on all your advice, I’ve put together the following itinerary:
July 30: Makassar – sightseeing July 31: Makassar – sightseeing + overnight bus to Rantepao August 1–7: Tana Toraja with a guide August 7: Tana Toraja to Tentena + visit Tentena August 8: Early departure with a private driver to Ampana, then ferry to the Togian Islands August 9–15: Togian Islands (2 different resorts) August 15: Depart Togian Islands for Luwuk August 16: Flight Luwuk to Makassar August 17: Rammang Rammang August 18: Stroll in Makassar, then return home
Overall, what do you think?
I also have a question about the connection between Tentena and the Togian Islands: Is it doable to leave early in the morning as planned and still be sure not to miss the ferry?
Thanks in advance for your feedback! :)
Thanks for all your contributions on the forum—they’ve really helped me plan my trip. There are four of us friends heading to Sulawesi for 20 days. Based on all your advice, I’ve put together the following itinerary:
July 30: Makassar – sightseeing July 31: Makassar – sightseeing + overnight bus to Rantepao August 1–7: Tana Toraja with a guide August 7: Tana Toraja to Tentena + visit Tentena August 8: Early departure with a private driver to Ampana, then ferry to the Togian Islands August 9–15: Togian Islands (2 different resorts) August 15: Depart Togian Islands for Luwuk August 16: Flight Luwuk to Makassar August 17: Rammang Rammang August 18: Stroll in Makassar, then return home
Overall, what do you think?
I also have a question about the connection between Tentena and the Togian Islands: Is it doable to leave early in the morning as planned and still be sure not to miss the ferry?
Thanks in advance for your feedback! :)
Hi everyone,
I’m currently working on a 30-day itinerary for May/June 2027.
10 days in eastern Java (Malang, Bromo, waterfalls, Meru Beriti Park, Banyuwangi, and Ijen), a short transit in Ubud for a few days, then Flores before heading back to Jakarta.
We’ll spend 15 days in Flores (the classic route: Moni, Bajawa, Riung, Ruteng, ending in Labuan Bajo).
I’d love some firsthand feedback on flights to Maumere or Ende from Bali Denpasar. I know there are no direct routes and that you have to connect through Labuan Bajo or Timor (I think), which isn’t an issue in itself.
But I’ve read here and there that flights to these destinations can be delayed—or worse, canceled—and that it’s better to fly in and out of Labuan Bajo, which isn’t exactly ideal...
Thanks for any tips or experiences you can share!






































































