Toubkal par Taliouine/Aoulouz, Askaoun, lac d'Ifni?
by Boho
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour!
J'ai jamais fait le toubkal mais je compte essayer dans 2 semaine (le 30 Octobre). J ai loue une 4*4 et j'aimerai savoir si c est possible de se rendre a Toubkal par Taliouine ou Aoulouz via Imhilene et lac d'ifni. Aussi est ce que c ets possible de passer la nuit a Imhilene pour pouvoir faire le lac d'ifni tot le matin et faire aussi Toubkal le meme jour et descendre pour recuperer la voiture et passer la nuit peut etre a Askaoun! Sachant que je ne veux pas faire le Asni/Imlil route:)
Merci
Boho
Bonjour.
Itinéraire pour rejoindre le lac d'ifni depuis talouine:
Route goudronnée de talouine à askaoun (souk le jeudi).De là 2 circuits:
.piste de askaoun à askaou puis goudron pour bouramdane(sur la route venant de aoulouz, autre alternative pour rejoindre le lac d'ifni ), piste pour assarag(souk le samedi)-imlil(du sud)-amsouzert-imhilene-lac d'ifni .Beau circuit par la vallée de tifnoute.
ou piste de askaoun-zawiat ait kalla-tizgui-imli(du sud)-amsouzert-lac d'ifni.
vous trouverez sans problème un hébergement rudimentaire à amsouzert ou à imhilène.
La piste difficile d'imhilène au lac d'ifni était coupée ce printemps.Se renseigner sur son état à amsouzert avant de s'y engager et ne pas l'emprunter en cas de pluie.
Je ne pense pas que vous puissiez faire le reste de votre périple en une journée .
L'accès au lac a été déjà évoqué ici:
http://voyageforum.com/voyage/se_rendre_au_lac_ifni_en_transports_en_commun_maroc_D3503561/
larazou
passer la nuit a Imhilene pour pouvoir faire le lac d'ifni tot le matin et faire aussi Toubkal le meme jour et descendre pour recuperer la voiture et passer la nuit peut etre a Askaoun
Cela me semble totalement irréaliste (même si la piste montant à Ifni est praticable aux 4x4, ce qui n'es pas du tout assuré). D'Ifni il faut: - remonter le lac - franchir le Tizi n'Ouanoums - redescendre vers le refuge Neltner - monter au Toubkal - et retour. C'est faisable en 2 jours, avec une nuit au Neltner. A noter que, début novembre, le beau temps n'est pas assuré, et l'itinéraire peu fréquenté...
Cela me semble totalement irréaliste (même si la piste montant à Ifni est praticable aux 4x4, ce qui n'es pas du tout assuré). D'Ifni il faut: - remonter le lac - franchir le Tizi n'Ouanoums - redescendre vers le refuge Neltner - monter au Toubkal - et retour. C'est faisable en 2 jours, avec une nuit au Neltner. A noter que, début novembre, le beau temps n'est pas assuré, et l'itinéraire peu fréquenté...
Bonjour,
la semaine dernière, (avant les gros orages du week end), la piste était 'trialisante' au dela du gite d'Amsouzert !
😉le lac aujourdhui etait tres bien quand a la piste sur foum zig toujours aussi vibrante🙁
la semaine dernière, (avant les gros orages du week end), la piste était 'trialisante' au dela du gite d'Amsouzert !
😉le lac aujourdhui etait tres bien quand a la piste sur foum zig toujours aussi vibrante🙁
vaut mieux un grain de sable dans la chaussure que dans la capote (Mr COLUCHE
mondial 45 la on a gagnè (nous avions deux goals)
Merci pour ttes le reponses et info! J'ai encore des doutes mais je pense que je vais faire ce trajet. Est ce que vous savez si il y a une possibilite
1- Est ce que c est possible de Passer la nuit a une aubergre/hotel (je perefer un hebergement chez une famille locale:maison d'hote) dans l'un des villages a cote/pres de Lac Ifni pour que je puisse se lever tot le matin, faire le sommet de toubkal et revenir le soir a l'auberge?
2-est ce qu'il y a une route liant taliouine a Amsouzart ou Lac Ifni? si oui, combien il faut envisager de temps?
3-est ce c est possible de trouver un guide pour nous accompagner au lac ifni et sommet de toubkal? si oui, combien doit je payer/
4- Est ce que qulequ un connait un hebergement chez une famille locale:maison d'hote a cote de lac ifni
Merci infininment!
Boho
Merci pour ttes le reponses et info! J'ai encore des doutes mais je pense que je vais faire ce trajet. Est ce que vous savez si il y a une possibilite
1- Est ce que c est possible de Passer la nuit a une aubergre/hotel (je perefer un hebergement chez une famille locale:maison d'hote) dans l'un des villages a cote/pres de Lac Ifni pour que je puisse se lever tot le matin, faire le sommet de toubkal et revenir le soir a l'auberge?
2-est ce qu'il y a une route liant taliouine a Amsouzart ou Lac Ifni? si oui, combien il faut envisager de temps?
3-est ce c est possible de trouver un guide pour nous accompagner au lac ifni et sommet de toubkal? si oui, combien doit je payer/
4- Est ce que qulequ un connait un hebergement chez une famille locale:maison d'hote a cote de lac ifni
Merci infininment!
Boho
Bonsoir.
Le lac d'ifni est accessible par 3 itinéraires principaux(hors les pistes) en partie goudronnées:
.goudron agouim-sour-tidili-tizgui puis piste.
.goudron aoukouz-iguidi-bouramdane puis piste
.goudron talouine -askaoun puis piste.
A supposer que la piste soit opérationnelle jusqu'au lac, il faut compter sur au minimum 6 h.pour y accéder à partir d'un de ces itinéraires.
Pour le logement , pas d'auberge ni d'hôtel mais un couchage(à voir sur place)chez l'habitant à amsouzert ou imhilene.
Tu trouveras à imhilène quelqu'un pour t'accompagner jusqu'au lac mais pas au sommet du toubkal , ces randos étant organisées durant la bonne saison à partir d"imlil.
larazou
Merci larazou pour ces info! Donc c'est possible de quitter lac ifni tot le matin (6.00am) et arriver au sommet de toubkal vers midi, puis descendre de 13.00 a 19.00! Est ce que c est fesable? Et d'apres vous, qu'elle la route, pour lac ifni, la plus panoramique des troix que vous venez de citer?
Merci
B.
Pour la faisabilité ou pas, la réponse de AJFT est plus qu'explicite.
Quant à l'itinéraire le plus beau donnant accès à de nombreux villages , est celui qui part de aoulouz-iguidi-assarag-amsouzert-lac d'ifni.
si vous devez rejoindre marrakech ou ouerzazate pour le retour vous pouvez passer par tidili-sour-agouim(jonction avec la route marrakech/ouerzazate)
larazou
quitter lac ifni tot le matin (6.00am) et arriver au sommet de toubkal vers midi, puis descendre de 13.00 a 19.00! Est ce que c est fesable?
Timing approximatif hors enneigement, de mémoire... Lac d'Ifni - Tizi n'Ouanoums : 2h30 Tizi n'Ouanoums - Refuge Neltner : 1 h Refuge Neltner - Toubkal : 3 h Toubkal - Refuge Neltner : 2h30 Refuge Neltner - Tizi n'Ouanoums : 1h30 Tizi n'Ouanoums - Lac d'Ifni : 2h (Sans pauses, bien sûr, et en courant dans les descentes! 😛)
Reinhold Messner pourrait sans doute faire mieux. A vous de voir... N.B.: A 19h, il fait nuit noire depuis un moment. Prévoyez un bon éclairage et/ou... de quoi bivouaquer...
En conclusion: "Faisable", peut-être, mais en partant à 4h du matin et en bénéficiant d'une forme physique et d'un entrainement exceptionnels. L'itinéraire à partir du lac est assez "évident" et un guide n'est pas indispensable. Cependant, à part pour l'ascension du Toubkal, vous ne rencontrerez sans doute personne, surtout en cette saison. Restez conscient des risques pris. Aucun secours n'est prévu.
Ce qui serait plus raisonnable: J1 - Laisser la voiture et dormir vers Amsouzert. J2 - Amsouzert - Lac d'Ifni- Tizi n'Ouanoums - Refuge Neltner J3 - Neltner-Toubkal (en partant à l'aube), puis retour et nuit à Amsouzert.
Timing approximatif hors enneigement, de mémoire... Lac d'Ifni - Tizi n'Ouanoums : 2h30 Tizi n'Ouanoums - Refuge Neltner : 1 h Refuge Neltner - Toubkal : 3 h Toubkal - Refuge Neltner : 2h30 Refuge Neltner - Tizi n'Ouanoums : 1h30 Tizi n'Ouanoums - Lac d'Ifni : 2h (Sans pauses, bien sûr, et en courant dans les descentes! 😛)
Reinhold Messner pourrait sans doute faire mieux. A vous de voir... N.B.: A 19h, il fait nuit noire depuis un moment. Prévoyez un bon éclairage et/ou... de quoi bivouaquer...
En conclusion: "Faisable", peut-être, mais en partant à 4h du matin et en bénéficiant d'une forme physique et d'un entrainement exceptionnels. L'itinéraire à partir du lac est assez "évident" et un guide n'est pas indispensable. Cependant, à part pour l'ascension du Toubkal, vous ne rencontrerez sans doute personne, surtout en cette saison. Restez conscient des risques pris. Aucun secours n'est prévu.
Ce qui serait plus raisonnable: J1 - Laisser la voiture et dormir vers Amsouzert. J2 - Amsouzert - Lac d'Ifni- Tizi n'Ouanoums - Refuge Neltner J3 - Neltner-Toubkal (en partant à l'aube), puis retour et nuit à Amsouzert.
J'aprouve les informations et propositions de AJFT !!
le trajet Lac d'ifni/Sommet toubkal aller retour serait très dure a faire pour ne pas dire impossible! 🤪
Ma dernière visite de la région remonte a Aout dernier, la piste était accessible par voiture jusqu'a Andouz (village après Amsouzart), après pour la partie qui remonte jusqu'au lac elle est impraticable !
ça serait mieux a mon avis de laisser la voiture a Amsouzart (ou Andouz) puis de continuer a pieds jusqu'au Lac et d'y passer la nuit (c'est très beau !!! vous pouvez camper avec des tentes sinon vous installez dans-les soit disant- "chambres" chez les petits cafés qui existes au lac)... après le lendemain vous faite le trajet Lac/tizi N'wanoums (que personnellement j'ai trouvé plus dur a faire que le Toubkal !🤪lol)/Refuge, vous y passez la nuit ... et ensuite le lendemain très tot vous faites le Sommet toubkal et vous continuez vers le lac ou vers Andouz directement (Sommet / Lac/Andouz descente en grande partie) ce qui fait faisable en une journée !
Pour les guides, oui y'en a mais comme avancé avant pas pour ce trajet en un Jour !
Bonne Chance et Bon Courage !! 🙂
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1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
Hi everyone! 😊
We’re traveling as a family to Marrakech from April 19 to 24, and there’ll be 15 of us (all ages), staying in the Targa neighborhood (El Idrissi Street).
I’d love your advice on a few things! 🙏
🚗 Vehicle rental
We’re thinking of renting 3 cars. We’ve seen really low prices online, but often without insurance.
👉 Do you have any reliable contacts or personal experiences to share?
👉 Would you recommend getting specific “tourist” insurance?
🏛️ Visits – Bahia Palace & Saadian Tombs
We’d like to visit the Bahia Palace and the Saadian Tombs, but:
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
As-salamu alaykum!
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
Mid-May: arriving alone (so, a "petit taxi"?) at Marrakech airport around 4:30 PM,
is it advisable to take a taxi at the airport (cost?) or is it wiser to book one through the hotel before departure (which would cost me 20 €)?
I think I’ve seen lower fares elsewhere (12 €?).
Destination: Riad Sijane near Djemaa El Fna square. Thanks!
hi there
we’re heading to Hammamet in a few months
what would you recommend visiting for a week?
best regards
Hi there,
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
Hi there,
We’re planning a trip to Morocco in September-October in our Fiat camper van, which isn’t a 4x4 but has already handled quite a bit of rough travel. While reading up on southern Morocco, we’ve been drawn to the Aguinane oasis but I’m having trouble locating it on the map. Is it possible to get there without a 4x4?
Thanks for your help
Hi,
Does anyone know the address of a rose flower distillery in the Valley of Roses / Kelaa M'Gouna? A traditional distillery, not just the tourist shop.
Thanks a bunch!
Nicolas :-)
Does anyone know the address of a rose flower distillery in the Valley of Roses / Kelaa M'Gouna? A traditional distillery, not just the tourist shop.
Thanks a bunch!
Nicolas :-)
Hi there,
Can anyone tell me if it's possible to travel from the Dades Gorges (Msemrir) to the Todra Gorges (Tamtatouche) on a paved road? Thanks in advance for any answers.
Hello,
We’d like to hire a French-speaking guide (agency, professional, or volunteer) to show us around Cairo over three days.
Trip planned for November 22, 23, and 24, 2026—four veteran French travelers.
We’re open to any leads, contact info, or suggestions.
Best regards,
Jacques
Hi there,
I have a layover in Algeria.
I won’t be leaving the airport.
The two tickets aren’t with the same airline.
Do I need a transit visa?
Thanks for any details and your help!
Hi there,
I live in Casablanca and my parents, who are 80, will be joining me in Marrakech at the beginning of May for a few days.
We’ll be renting a car to get around.
Do you have any suggestions for things to see or visit within a 2-3 hour drive max from Marrakech that aren’t too touristy?
My parents can walk a bit, but at 80, no climbing Mount Toubkal!
Thanks so much in advance for your ideas!







