Ulysse Lonely Planet Routard autres ?
Meilleur guide de voyage pour le Chili, Argentine?
by Achevalier
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Le meilleur guide voyage pour le chili ou l'argentine ?
Ulysse Lonely Planet Routard autres ?
Ulysse Lonely Planet Routard autres ?
A.C
J'aime beaucoup les Rough Guides (en anglais, je ne sais pas si ca existe en francais?) Par contre leurs guides pour l'amerique du sud ne sont pas tous mis à jours et certains datent un peu... Si le plus important est d'avoir un guide mis à jour récemment c'est sur que Lonely Planet est peut etre le mieux.
Pour des beaux livres avec pleins de photos, histoire de puiser de l'inspiration avant le voyage, Insight guides fait de belles choses...Egalement en anglais.
Pour les guides en français, mon choix se porte également sur la collection Lonely Planet, qui offre les guides les plus complets (pour l'Argentine, par exemple, seul le LP traite de villes comme Rosario, Santa Fe ou Resistencia...).
A noter que la nouvelle édition du LP Argentine en français vient de sortir (je l'ai commandée, mais je ne l'ai pas encore reçue).
A noter que la nouvelle édition du LP Argentine en français vient de sortir (je l'ai commandée, mais je ne l'ai pas encore reçue).
Salut
je te repond d Ushuaia....je suis en train de visiter le sud de l argentine -et un peu le chili- chiloe et la region des lacs...et l an dernier j ai parcouru le nord -salta-iguazu mendoza cordoba...jusqu a valparaiso - en passant par le salar d uyuni -ce qui n etait pas prevu....
bref plusieurs choses....
pour ta question pas vraiment de guide qui se detache mais j avais l an dernier le routard et le guide Geo...on m a fauche le routard le premier jour et en fait...on m a rendu un fier service...les adresses du routard sont...en ce aui concerne les hostales et les restos... on va dire tres moyennes - j aurais du mal a oublie la premiere pension recommandee par le routard...pile en face une boite de nuit..et pas de bol je suis arrive un samedi ..ballot...mais bon le routard reste pas mal pour t indiquer les liaisons routieres...meme si en fait tu comprendras tres vite -c est hyper simple-comment s organiser dans les terminaux de bus... Donc perso j ai eu aussi le lonely -version anglophone-pas glop- avec toute l amerique du sud...pas trop mal non plus mais pas trop d info pratique...donc je te recommande perso le guide geo qui te permettra aussi de pas trop te retrouver cernee de touristes guide du routrard equiped...
ensuite tous le guides...mais absolument tous sont en retard au niveau des tarifs...que ce soit pour l entree des parcs - exemple 70 pesos la peninsule de valdes et 75 pour le perito moreno a el calafate ....pas mal de routard evitent de le payer en y allant avant 8h du mat...la resquille n etant pas l apanage de nos voisins tramsalpins 😉 idem pour les hostales qui oscillent entre 45 et 70 pesos la nuit en dortoir -et pas vraiment 25-30 comme annonce dans les guides.... enfin derniere chose ....prend le temps de discuter avec les argentins qui te donneront, et toujours avec le sourire, des infos qu aucun guide te donnera...donc un guide c est un outil mais attention au cote mouton de la chose... Donc pour finir mon conseil aide toi d un max de guide ou d internet...prend celui qui correspond le mieux a tes attentes - perso les restos c est iñportants 😏...et laisse toi un peu de marge pour sortir des sentiers battus...et franchement tu pourras pas etre decue par ce pays et surtout pas par ses habitants ... bref viva argentina
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ensuite tous le guides...mais absolument tous sont en retard au niveau des tarifs...que ce soit pour l entree des parcs - exemple 70 pesos la peninsule de valdes et 75 pour le perito moreno a el calafate ....pas mal de routard evitent de le payer en y allant avant 8h du mat...la resquille n etant pas l apanage de nos voisins tramsalpins 😉 idem pour les hostales qui oscillent entre 45 et 70 pesos la nuit en dortoir -et pas vraiment 25-30 comme annonce dans les guides.... enfin derniere chose ....prend le temps de discuter avec les argentins qui te donneront, et toujours avec le sourire, des infos qu aucun guide te donnera...donc un guide c est un outil mais attention au cote mouton de la chose... Donc pour finir mon conseil aide toi d un max de guide ou d internet...prend celui qui correspond le mieux a tes attentes - perso les restos c est iñportants 😏...et laisse toi un peu de marge pour sortir des sentiers battus...et franchement tu pourras pas etre decue par ce pays et surtout pas par ses habitants ... bref viva argentina
@+ si t as besoin d autres infos n hesite pas
Bonjour,
Lors de notre voyage en Patagonie, nous avons utilisé les infos récoltées dans les carnets de voyage et complété principalement avec le Lonely. L'avantage du Lonely, c'est que tu peux acheter par chapître en ligne (version anglaise). Donc tu ne prends que ce dont tu as besoin et au quotidien, tu évites de te promener avec un gros livre.
Comme l'a dit mon prédecesseur, inutile de se baser sur les tarifs donnés...
Lors de notre voyage en Patagonie, nous avons utilisé les infos récoltées dans les carnets de voyage et complété principalement avec le Lonely. L'avantage du Lonely, c'est que tu peux acheter par chapître en ligne (version anglaise). Donc tu ne prends que ce dont tu as besoin et au quotidien, tu évites de te promener avec un gros livre.
Comme l'a dit mon prédecesseur, inutile de se baser sur les tarifs donnés...
En plus, pour le Chili: CHILITUR COPEC(la guia para conocer chili), Editions de Copec(Reseaux des stations-service) a acheter dans les grandes stations-services+plus des cartes detailler des toutes les regions/provinces!! En Espagnol!!😉
Pour l'Argentine, j'aime bien le Rough Guide. Mais cela depend aussi de ton style de voyage.
Je vous remercie tous, je me débrouille pas mal en espagnol donc pour les guides j'ai pris Geo pour le chili et un autre pour l'argentine oublié le nom, mais sont très bien.
Merci <a tous.
Merci <a tous.
A.C
Bonjour
Je confirme la qualité du Lonely Planet. Je te conseille également le Guide "Bibliothèque du voyageur" chez Gallimard qui complète bien le Lonely Planet dans le sens où il est moins axé sur le aspects pratiques mais "raconte" merveilleusement l'Argentine et te fera rêver encore un peu plus avant de partir...Il a juste un petit défaut : il pèse lourd dans le sac à dos :-/.Bon voyage !
Hello,
Je reviens d'un mois en Argentine avec le LP (version 2008) et le Routard. Et bien, dans la majorité des cas, c'est le Routard qui est le plus complet à tous niveaux, surtout dans le nord-ouest (Salta et les quebradas). C'est un peu équivalent pour El Calafate ou Buenos Aires. Pour le Fitz Roy, LP est mieux.
Et pourtant, c'est souvent le contraire.
Surtout, le LP est COMPLETEMENT dépassé par les prix. 100 ou 200 % de différence ne sont pas anormales par rapport au LP. Le Routard est un peu plus proche de la réalité mais impossible de suivre l'inflation actuelle.
Ce qui m'inquiète est que j'ai feuilleté dans un aéroport la version 2010 du LP (en anglais) et qu'il semble toujours fortement en retard en comparaison du Routard.
Je n'ai pas pris le Rough Guide, mais il est clair qu'il a toujours une bonne réputation...
Je reste dispo pour tout complément d'infos.
A+
Phil
Je reviens d'un mois en Argentine avec le LP (version 2008) et le Routard. Et bien, dans la majorité des cas, c'est le Routard qui est le plus complet à tous niveaux, surtout dans le nord-ouest (Salta et les quebradas). C'est un peu équivalent pour El Calafate ou Buenos Aires. Pour le Fitz Roy, LP est mieux.
Et pourtant, c'est souvent le contraire.
Surtout, le LP est COMPLETEMENT dépassé par les prix. 100 ou 200 % de différence ne sont pas anormales par rapport au LP. Le Routard est un peu plus proche de la réalité mais impossible de suivre l'inflation actuelle.
Ce qui m'inquiète est que j'ai feuilleté dans un aéroport la version 2010 du LP (en anglais) et qu'il semble toujours fortement en retard en comparaison du Routard.
Je n'ai pas pris le Rough Guide, mais il est clair qu'il a toujours une bonne réputation...
Je reste dispo pour tout complément d'infos.
A+
Phil
Bonjour,
Je viens de recevoir le LP Argentine 2010 en français (3e édition), et les prix indiqués me semblent être dans la même gamme que ceux du Routard millésimé 2011. De toute façon, dans un pays comme l'Argentine où l'inflation est galopante, les prix donnés par les guides ne sont qu'un ordre de grandeur.
Ce que je reproche au Routard, c'est qu'il ne traite que des lieux hautement touristiques. Si tu veux sortir un peu des sentier battus, tu n'as plus aucune info. Par exemple, recherche donc dans le Routard des infos sur Rosario (3e ville du pays), Santa Fe ou Resistencia... En plus, je trouve que les infos culturelles du Routard sont plutôt faiblardes. De ce point de vue, le guide le plus complet est sans doute celui proposé par GEO.
Mais hélas, il faut bien le reconnaître, tous les guides sur l'Argentine restent très incomplets. Je n'en ai ainsi pas trouvé un seul qui traite en détail de la Puna argentine (but principal de mon prochain voyage). Seul le LP a un encart de quelques lignes qui mentionne Tolar Grande, par exemple...
Heureusement, les Argentins sont extrêmement accueillants, et restent les meilleurs connaisseurs des richesses de leurs régions. Il ne faut pas hésiter à ouvrir le dialogue avec eux. 😉
Je viens de recevoir le LP Argentine 2010 en français (3e édition), et les prix indiqués me semblent être dans la même gamme que ceux du Routard millésimé 2011. De toute façon, dans un pays comme l'Argentine où l'inflation est galopante, les prix donnés par les guides ne sont qu'un ordre de grandeur.
Ce que je reproche au Routard, c'est qu'il ne traite que des lieux hautement touristiques. Si tu veux sortir un peu des sentier battus, tu n'as plus aucune info. Par exemple, recherche donc dans le Routard des infos sur Rosario (3e ville du pays), Santa Fe ou Resistencia... En plus, je trouve que les infos culturelles du Routard sont plutôt faiblardes. De ce point de vue, le guide le plus complet est sans doute celui proposé par GEO.
Mais hélas, il faut bien le reconnaître, tous les guides sur l'Argentine restent très incomplets. Je n'en ai ainsi pas trouvé un seul qui traite en détail de la Puna argentine (but principal de mon prochain voyage). Seul le LP a un encart de quelques lignes qui mentionne Tolar Grande, par exemple...
Heureusement, les Argentins sont extrêmement accueillants, et restent les meilleurs connaisseurs des richesses de leurs régions. Il ne faut pas hésiter à ouvrir le dialogue avec eux. 😉
Bonjour
Je confirme la qualité du Lonely Planet. Je te conseille également le Guide "Bibliothèque du voyageur" chez Gallimard qui complète bien le Lonely Planet dans le sens où il est moins axé sur le aspects pratiques mais "raconte" merveilleusement l'Argentine et te fera rêver encore un peu plus avant de partir...Il a juste un petit défaut : il pèse lourd dans le sac à dos :-/.Bon voyage !
Bonjour,
Oui, je connais ce bel ouvrage, qui est plus un livre sur l'Argentine qu'un guide.
Il y a à mon avis un autre ouvrage essentiel pour comprendre l'âme argentine, même s'il est assez daté :
Pierre Kalfon, Argentine, Seuil (coll. Petite Planète n°36), 1967.
Il reste disponible en librairie, on peut le commander sur internet.
Bonjour,
Oui, je connais ce bel ouvrage, qui est plus un livre sur l'Argentine qu'un guide.
Il y a à mon avis un autre ouvrage essentiel pour comprendre l'âme argentine, même s'il est assez daté :
Pierre Kalfon, Argentine, Seuil (coll. Petite Planète n°36), 1967.
Il reste disponible en librairie, on peut le commander sur internet.
hello,
Cela va faires 5 semaines que je suis en Argentine et je suis partie avec les 2 guides Le Routard et Lonely Planet bilan le routard ne traite que des lieux touristique et a des critiques injustifiés il est au fond de mon sac dos . Par contre le LP beaucoup plus complet surtout sur les itinéraires hors meute touristique
Las Malvinas son Argentinas
Cela va faires 5 semaines que je suis en Argentine et je suis partie avec les 2 guides Le Routard et Lonely Planet bilan le routard ne traite que des lieux touristique et a des critiques injustifiés il est au fond de mon sac dos . Par contre le LP beaucoup plus complet surtout sur les itinéraires hors meute touristique
Las Malvinas son Argentinas
Las Malvinas son Argentinas
Hélas non, les Malouines sont britanniques!
Meilleur guide pour le Chili: bonne question. J'avais pris le guide du routard mais Il ne traite que les zones touristiques. Le pays est coupés en 3: le Nord qui va d'Arica jusquà la Serena, la zone centrale Valparaiso et Santiago et le Sud qui va de Valdivia jusqu'à Punta Arenas. on néglige certaines régions comme Pichilemu, Talca... Voilà des endroits encore préservés du tourisme de masse. tant mieux!
Pour l'Argentine, c'est pareil: les environs de Cordoba ( 2ème ville d'Argentine) on a très peu d'infos. aucune mention au sujet de la Cumbrecita.
je suis d'accord que si on reste juste 3 semaines dans ces pays, on va à l'essentiel. Après chacun fait son choix, soit on suit l'itinéraire proposé par le guide, soit on s'aventure hors des sentiers battus.
Hélas non, les Malouines sont britanniques!
Meilleur guide pour le Chili: bonne question. J'avais pris le guide du routard mais Il ne traite que les zones touristiques. Le pays est coupés en 3: le Nord qui va d'Arica jusquà la Serena, la zone centrale Valparaiso et Santiago et le Sud qui va de Valdivia jusqu'à Punta Arenas. on néglige certaines régions comme Pichilemu, Talca... Voilà des endroits encore préservés du tourisme de masse. tant mieux!
Pour l'Argentine, c'est pareil: les environs de Cordoba ( 2ème ville d'Argentine) on a très peu d'infos. aucune mention au sujet de la Cumbrecita.
je suis d'accord que si on reste juste 3 semaines dans ces pays, on va à l'essentiel. Après chacun fait son choix, soit on suit l'itinéraire proposé par le guide, soit on s'aventure hors des sentiers battus.
Il y a 2 façons de contrôler les gens: en leur faisant peur et en les démoralisant. ( Sicko)
POur moi le lonely planet est un très mauvais guide pour le chili, pays que je connais assez bien.
Le routard est bon mais simple, comme d'hab il faut un mélange de plusieurs guides. Les adresses du routard sont fiables, ça oui!
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If you’ve got questions or need tips, I’m happy to help! Martin
hi,
I was planning to go to Réunion and stay in half-board accommodation with non-professionals, but it seems that’s not really the custom there—or maybe my budget isn’t big enough.
So, since I’ve already traveled around Ecuador and Peru, I’m now looking at Argentina, especially for its mountains (like the ones in Réunion that tempted me, even though—frustratingly—I could only admire them from below).
I plan to get around by bus and don’t know in advance where I’ll sleep, so I won’t book ahead. If I like a place, I might stay for several days.
I know that in Chile, it’s easy to find half-board accommodation, but what about in Argentina?
I’d like to stay with locals in half-board without it being a professional setup. I’m not sure if this is common practice there. It’s up to me to find someone willing to host me. What do you think? What would be a fair price (keeping in mind that 40 to 50 € is the max I can spend on accommodation, breakfast, and dinner)?
Looking forward to your feedback.
Best regards,
I was planning to go to Réunion and stay in half-board accommodation with non-professionals, but it seems that’s not really the custom there—or maybe my budget isn’t big enough.
So, since I’ve already traveled around Ecuador and Peru, I’m now looking at Argentina, especially for its mountains (like the ones in Réunion that tempted me, even though—frustratingly—I could only admire them from below).
I plan to get around by bus and don’t know in advance where I’ll sleep, so I won’t book ahead. If I like a place, I might stay for several days.
I know that in Chile, it’s easy to find half-board accommodation, but what about in Argentina?
I’d like to stay with locals in half-board without it being a professional setup. I’m not sure if this is common practice there. It’s up to me to find someone willing to host me. What do you think? What would be a fair price (keeping in mind that 40 to 50 € is the max I can spend on accommodation, breakfast, and dinner)?
Looking forward to your feedback.
Best regards,
Hi everyone,
We’re heading to Patagonia for three weeks in November, starting from Coyhaique in Chile.
We won’t have a car, and I’m struggling to find information about transportation options for a few parts of the itinerary we’d like to do:
1) From Perito Moreno (the town, near Los Antiguos), we’d like to travel down Ruta 40 to visit Perito Moreno National Park and then cross into Chile via the Paso Roballos (at the latitude of Bajo Caracoles) to reach the road to Cochrane. Without a car, it seems we’ll need to use private agencies to get to the national park—do you have any recommendations or suggestions? Also, does anyone know if it’s possible to cross into Chile via Paso Roballos (from Bajo Caracoles) without a rental car? That is, without having to go all the way down to El Chaltén or back up toward Perito Moreno/Los Antiguos, etc.?
2) The second stretch that seems a bit tricky (though still easier, in theory) is from Caleta Tortel to Villa O’Higgins on the Chilean side. Do we have to go back through Cochrane, or are there ways to get directly from Tortel to Villa O’Higgins?
3) Finally, we’d like to hike into Argentina (El Chaltén) from O’Higgins. Any recommendations for this? Do we need to go through an agency? What’s the estimated duration of the trek?
As you’ve probably gathered, we want to visit some off-the-beaten-path spots but don’t have a car, so we’re looking for the best possible compromises.
Thanks so much in advance for all your suggestions! Thomas
1) From Perito Moreno (the town, near Los Antiguos), we’d like to travel down Ruta 40 to visit Perito Moreno National Park and then cross into Chile via the Paso Roballos (at the latitude of Bajo Caracoles) to reach the road to Cochrane. Without a car, it seems we’ll need to use private agencies to get to the national park—do you have any recommendations or suggestions? Also, does anyone know if it’s possible to cross into Chile via Paso Roballos (from Bajo Caracoles) without a rental car? That is, without having to go all the way down to El Chaltén or back up toward Perito Moreno/Los Antiguos, etc.?
2) The second stretch that seems a bit tricky (though still easier, in theory) is from Caleta Tortel to Villa O’Higgins on the Chilean side. Do we have to go back through Cochrane, or are there ways to get directly from Tortel to Villa O’Higgins?
3) Finally, we’d like to hike into Argentina (El Chaltén) from O’Higgins. Any recommendations for this? Do we need to go through an agency? What’s the estimated duration of the trek?
As you’ve probably gathered, we want to visit some off-the-beaten-path spots but don’t have a car, so we’re looking for the best possible compromises.
Thanks so much in advance for all your suggestions! Thomas
Hi,
we’re planning a round trip from San Pedro de Atacama, Chile, to Salta, Argentina, in two months. On the way there, we’ll take the northern route via Susques, Route 27, then 52. But for the return, we were thinking of taking the southern route via San Antonio de los Cobres, Route 51, then 23. Is it similar to the northern route in terms of road surface? How busy is it, and are there gas stations? Basically, should we be worried about doing it in an SUV that’s supposedly 4x4 but has regular road tires and no second spare wheel, obviously...
I’ve seen that we can stop over in San Antonio de los Cobres.
Thanks for your feedback.
Raf.
Hi,
we’ll be in Calama at the end of March 2026, and I’m looking for a reliable car rental there for a 7-day road trip to Salta, Argentina. But I’m struggling with the car rental agencies in Calama because the reviews can be scary. I saw Gyg, which has great ratings, but I’m a bit wary (5/5 from 59 reviews—either the guy’s amazing or it’s fake...), but I can’t find any recent reviews on VF in general.
For Punta Arenas, I booked with Dachelet and didn’t have any issues with email exchanges.
Thanks in advance.
Raf.
Hi everyone!
I’m planning the trip of my dreams for next November—Chile! I’d love to get your thoughts on my potential itinerary. I know it’s a big investment in terms of both time and money, so every bit of feedback, suggestion, or info helps immensely. Thank you in advance!!
1-Flight to Santiago
2-Explore Santiago
3-Explore Santiago
4-Bus from STG to Valpo (2h) + visit Valparaíso + night in Viña
5-Visit Valparaíso + bus back to STG (2h)
6-Flight to Calama + bus to San Pedro + explore and acclimate in San Pedro + car rental in the afternoon (+Chaxa?)
7-(Very early) Valle del Arcoíris + Laguna Cejar + Valle de la Luna
8-Laguna Miñiques & Miscanti + Salar de Talar + Laguna Tuyajto
9-Geysers El Tatio early in the morning + Cañón de Guatín + return car
10-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
11-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
12-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
13-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni + return to San Pedro for the night
14-Bus to Calama + flight Calama-La Serena + explore La Serena
15-Excursion to Reserva Pingüino + bonus time (sunset at Playa Tongoy or elsewhere...)
16-Rent a car in Pisco Elqui & Vicuña + Observatory
17-Return car in La Serena + flight Santiago & Puerto Montt (4h)
18-Rent a 4x2 car + drive to Temuco (4h)
19-Reserva Nacional Malalcahuello + hike + night in Temuco
20-Parque Nacional Conguillío then drive and night in Pucón
21-Villarrica Volcano
22-Parque Huerquehue
23-Activities on-site
24-Drive to Valdivia + explore and night there
25-Drive to Puerto Varas (via Frutillar, etc.) + activities on-site
26-Salto Las Cascadas + Parque Nacional Vicente Pérez Rosales (Salto del Petrohué) + Canoeing/Rafting?
27-Drive to Parque Alerce Andino (round trip 3h) + hike Sendero Sargazo?
28-Drive to Castro + explore Chiloé and night in Castro
29-Explore Chiloé
30-Explore Chiloé + return to Puerto Varas
31-Drive to Cochamó (1h30) + drive to Hornopirén (2h30)
32-Ferry to Caleta Gonzalo + drive to Chaitén (1h20)
33-Parque Nacional Pumalín, night in Chaitén
34-Drive to Puyuhuapi + Sendero Ventisquero Yelcho?
35-Ventisquero Colgante + drive to Coyhaique
36-Drive to Villa Cerro Castillo
37-Hike Cerro Castillo
38-Drive to Puerto Río Tranquilo
39-Excursion to Glaciar Exploradores
40-Mármol Cathedral + lake activities
41-Drive to Cochrane
42-Parque Patagonia
43-Drive to Chile Chico
44-Ferry Chile Chico-Ibañez + drive to Coyhaique + drop off car
45-Flight to Punta Arenas (1h30) + explore the city
46-Rent a car + drive to Puerto Natales
47-Drive to Torres del Paine in the morning + hike to the base of the towers (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
48-Torres del Paine hike 2 (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
49-Torres del Paine hike 3 (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
50-Drive to Punta Arenas
51-Flight Punta Arenas-Santiago + flight Santiago-Buenos Aires (2h)
52-Explore Buenos Aires
53-Explore Buenos Aires
54-Explore Buenos Aires
55-Flight back to France
I’m planning the trip of my dreams for next November—Chile! I’d love to get your thoughts on my potential itinerary. I know it’s a big investment in terms of both time and money, so every bit of feedback, suggestion, or info helps immensely. Thank you in advance!!
1-Flight to Santiago
2-Explore Santiago
3-Explore Santiago
4-Bus from STG to Valpo (2h) + visit Valparaíso + night in Viña
5-Visit Valparaíso + bus back to STG (2h)
6-Flight to Calama + bus to San Pedro + explore and acclimate in San Pedro + car rental in the afternoon (+Chaxa?)
7-(Very early) Valle del Arcoíris + Laguna Cejar + Valle de la Luna
8-Laguna Miñiques & Miscanti + Salar de Talar + Laguna Tuyajto
9-Geysers El Tatio early in the morning + Cañón de Guatín + return car
10-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
11-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
12-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
13-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni + return to San Pedro for the night
14-Bus to Calama + flight Calama-La Serena + explore La Serena
15-Excursion to Reserva Pingüino + bonus time (sunset at Playa Tongoy or elsewhere...)
16-Rent a car in Pisco Elqui & Vicuña + Observatory
17-Return car in La Serena + flight Santiago & Puerto Montt (4h)
18-Rent a 4x2 car + drive to Temuco (4h)
19-Reserva Nacional Malalcahuello + hike + night in Temuco
20-Parque Nacional Conguillío then drive and night in Pucón
21-Villarrica Volcano
22-Parque Huerquehue
23-Activities on-site
24-Drive to Valdivia + explore and night there
25-Drive to Puerto Varas (via Frutillar, etc.) + activities on-site
26-Salto Las Cascadas + Parque Nacional Vicente Pérez Rosales (Salto del Petrohué) + Canoeing/Rafting?
27-Drive to Parque Alerce Andino (round trip 3h) + hike Sendero Sargazo?
28-Drive to Castro + explore Chiloé and night in Castro
29-Explore Chiloé
30-Explore Chiloé + return to Puerto Varas
31-Drive to Cochamó (1h30) + drive to Hornopirén (2h30)
32-Ferry to Caleta Gonzalo + drive to Chaitén (1h20)
33-Parque Nacional Pumalín, night in Chaitén
34-Drive to Puyuhuapi + Sendero Ventisquero Yelcho?
35-Ventisquero Colgante + drive to Coyhaique
36-Drive to Villa Cerro Castillo
37-Hike Cerro Castillo
38-Drive to Puerto Río Tranquilo
39-Excursion to Glaciar Exploradores
40-Mármol Cathedral + lake activities
41-Drive to Cochrane
42-Parque Patagonia
43-Drive to Chile Chico
44-Ferry Chile Chico-Ibañez + drive to Coyhaique + drop off car
45-Flight to Punta Arenas (1h30) + explore the city
46-Rent a car + drive to Puerto Natales
47-Drive to Torres del Paine in the morning + hike to the base of the towers (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
48-Torres del Paine hike 2 (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
49-Torres del Paine hike 3 (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
50-Drive to Punta Arenas
51-Flight Punta Arenas-Santiago + flight Santiago-Buenos Aires (2h)
52-Explore Buenos Aires
53-Explore Buenos Aires
54-Explore Buenos Aires
55-Flight back to France
Good evening,
We’d love to go in November to enjoy some beautiful beaches for about two weeks, preferably around Bahia, as November/December seems like a great time.
We’ve already traveled to Brazil several times and know the south of Rio as well as the region between São Luís and Fortaleza, and Chapada Diamantina...
What advice would you give us: the south with Itaparica, Morro de São Paulo, Boipeba, Barra Grande—or all four? Or maybe the north?
Thanks in advance for your help
Hi everyone, it’s been a while since I last posted!
First time in South America for me, my wife, and our 7-year-old son. I’ve put together this itinerary and would love to hear your thoughts:
Bogotá 28/07 – 30/07: Arrival. Which neighborhood and outings would you recommend? Flight to
2 Filandia 30/07 – 03/08: (255 €). Waterfalls and horseback riding, Cocora Valley, Hiking, Nearby villages. Flight to 3 Tayrona 03/08 – 07/08: Hotel La Casablanca
Hike with Tierra Nevada and the Kogui village (any feedback?). Return by inner tube for the little one. Short night hike. Second hike to La Piscina, etc., return by 🐎.
4 Cartagena 07/08 – 10/08: Air-conditioned bus. Staying in Getsemaní? Mangroves & the Castle, exploring the city.
5 Bogotá 10/08 – 12/08
Feel free to share your feedback! Have a great day!
Seb
First time in South America for me, my wife, and our 7-year-old son. I’ve put together this itinerary and would love to hear your thoughts:
Bogotá 28/07 – 30/07: Arrival. Which neighborhood and outings would you recommend? Flight to
2 Filandia 30/07 – 03/08: (255 €). Waterfalls and horseback riding, Cocora Valley, Hiking, Nearby villages. Flight to 3 Tayrona 03/08 – 07/08: Hotel La Casablanca
Hike with Tierra Nevada and the Kogui village (any feedback?). Return by inner tube for the little one. Short night hike. Second hike to La Piscina, etc., return by 🐎.
4 Cartagena 07/08 – 10/08: Air-conditioned bus. Staying in Getsemaní? Mangroves & the Castle, exploring the city.
5 Bogotá 10/08 – 12/08
Feel free to share your feedback! Have a great day!
Seb
Hi,
During an upcoming trip to Peru, we’ll have one day to explore around Arequipa (excluding Colca Canyon) with a car and driver.
We’ve got a few options:
- Toro Muerto petroglyphs and dinosaur footprints at Querulpa
- Ruta del Sillar and Quebrada de Culebrillas
What do you think? Any recommendations?
Thanks in advance! Larri
What do you think? Any recommendations?
Thanks in advance! Larri
We’re a group of 6 friends with an average age of 70, all mobile, and we’re planning a trip to Peru in September/October 2026. Below is an idea of what we’re looking for: a French-speaking guide, accommodation in 3-star hotels or homestays with comfort.
Duration: 16 to 20 days on-site.
Visit the main sites with immersion in the culture and way of life.
Which francophone agency in Peru would you recommend? Thanks
Hi there!
I’m putting together my itinerary for Brazil, looking for beautiful natural spots with wildlife, flora, and great hikes...
I’ve come across the Cananeia / Super Agui / Ilha do Mel region and the PETAR / Intervales / Alto Ribeira area.
Has anyone here been to these places? If so, do you have any recommendations for accommodations and activities?
Thanks in advance!
Best,
Olivier 🌍
Hello,
I’ll be in ARICA in northern Chile at the end of May 2026 and want to get to TACNA. Are there taxis, buses, or collectivos that run the border crossing route?
After that, bus to AREQUIPA (Peru): any bus company you’d recommend?
I’ll be in ARICA in northern Chile at the end of May 2026 and want to get to TACNA. Are there taxis, buses, or collectivos that run the border crossing route?
After that, bus to AREQUIPA (Peru): any bus company you’d recommend?
Hi there,
We’re spending 3 weeks in Brazil, arriving in São Paulo—a couple plus a teen—and we’ll have a rental car.
We especially love nature: hiking, wildlife watching, birds, etc.
We’re planning to wrap up with a week around Paraty and Ilha Grande.
We’re not really into visiting big cities like São Paulo or Rio unless you think we’d be missing out big time.
So we’ve got 2 weeks to explore the south/southwest region of São Paulo. What do you recommend? National parks? Off-the-beaten-path nature spots? Iguazu Falls?
Thanks in advance for all your tips!
So we’ve got 2 weeks to explore the south/southwest region of São Paulo. What do you recommend? National parks? Off-the-beaten-path nature spots? Iguazu Falls?
Thanks in advance for all your tips!
Hi there,
Do you have any recommendations for comfortable accommodation in Leyva and Barichara? We're also looking for a guide to explore the areas around these two towns (parks, waterfalls, etc.).
Thanks for your tips!
I visited Colombia in January 2016 and I’m heading back from August 6th to 17th with the same airline to see how things have changed. Starting August 18th, I’ll continue with independent exploration. I prefer slow travel and enjoying places at my own pace.
Any tips—especially for getting around or must-see spots—are welcome!
Thu Aug 06. Fly Montreal to Bogotá 20:55-04:05+1 Air Canada Fri Aug 07. Bogotá Sat Aug 08. Bogotá Sun Aug 09. Bogotá Mon Aug 10. Fly Bogotá to Medellín Tue Aug 11. Medellín - Explore Guatapé Wed Aug 12. Comuna 8 & Hill of Values - PM Fly to Pereira Thu Aug 13. Montenegro Fri Aug 14. Salento - Cocora Valley Sat Aug 15. Fly to Cartagena Sun Aug 16. Explore Cartagena Mon Aug 17. Explore Cartagena Tue Aug 18. Fly Cartagena to Cali 12:20-14:55 Latam Wed Aug 19. Cali Thu Aug 20. Cali Fri Aug 21. Cali Sat Aug 22. Bus Cali to Popayán 09:00-13:00 Sun Aug 23. Popayán Mon Aug 24. Popayán Tue Aug 25. Popayán - Day trip to Silvia (Market Day) Wed Aug 26. Overland Popayán to Tierradentro by public transportation 4h, 100km Thu Aug 27. Tierradentro Fri Aug 28. Tierradentro Sat Aug 29. Overland Tierradentro to Garzón via La Plata Sun Aug 30. Bus Garzón to San Agustín 10:30-13:00 Mon Aug 31. San Agustín Tue Sep 01. San Agustín Wed Sep 02. San Agustín Thu Sep 03. San Agustín Fri Sep 04. Overland San Agustín to Tatacoa Desert via Neiva Sat Sep 05. Tatacoa Desert Sun Sep 06. Fly to Bogotá via Neiva 16:00-17:00 Latam Mon Sep 07. Bogotá Tue Sep 08. Fly Bogotá to Montreal 09:00-16:30 Air Canada
Thu Aug 06. Fly Montreal to Bogotá 20:55-04:05+1 Air Canada Fri Aug 07. Bogotá Sat Aug 08. Bogotá Sun Aug 09. Bogotá Mon Aug 10. Fly Bogotá to Medellín Tue Aug 11. Medellín - Explore Guatapé Wed Aug 12. Comuna 8 & Hill of Values - PM Fly to Pereira Thu Aug 13. Montenegro Fri Aug 14. Salento - Cocora Valley Sat Aug 15. Fly to Cartagena Sun Aug 16. Explore Cartagena Mon Aug 17. Explore Cartagena Tue Aug 18. Fly Cartagena to Cali 12:20-14:55 Latam Wed Aug 19. Cali Thu Aug 20. Cali Fri Aug 21. Cali Sat Aug 22. Bus Cali to Popayán 09:00-13:00 Sun Aug 23. Popayán Mon Aug 24. Popayán Tue Aug 25. Popayán - Day trip to Silvia (Market Day) Wed Aug 26. Overland Popayán to Tierradentro by public transportation 4h, 100km Thu Aug 27. Tierradentro Fri Aug 28. Tierradentro Sat Aug 29. Overland Tierradentro to Garzón via La Plata Sun Aug 30. Bus Garzón to San Agustín 10:30-13:00 Mon Aug 31. San Agustín Tue Sep 01. San Agustín Wed Sep 02. San Agustín Thu Sep 03. San Agustín Fri Sep 04. Overland San Agustín to Tatacoa Desert via Neiva Sat Sep 05. Tatacoa Desert Sun Sep 06. Fly to Bogotá via Neiva 16:00-17:00 Latam Mon Sep 07. Bogotá Tue Sep 08. Fly Bogotá to Montreal 09:00-16:30 Air Canada
Hi there,
Three years ago during a trip to Java (no, I didn’t post in the wrong forum!), I came across the address of former miners who had switched to “tourism” and organized nighttime ascents of the Kawah Ijen volcano and descents into the crater.
So I was thinking—maybe there are miners on the salt flats too, either former or still active, who do the same thing. If you’ve had an experience like this, I’d love any tips you can share.
Thanks in advance.
Hi there, since there isn’t much recent info on how to get to MP, I’d love to know if there have been any improvements to the "route" to Hydroelectrica. Is it feasible to drive there in February? And is it still possible to walk all the way to Aguas Calientes? I think I read somewhere that it’s no longer allowed??
Do you think I can buy Machu Picchu entrance tickets last-minute at that time of year, given the weather?
Hello everyone!
A group of friends and I are heading to Brazil in March 2019 and we’d love to attend the Carnival parade. I could really use your help because I’m struggling to find reviews for online ticket sellers for Carnival. I came across rio-carnival—is this a reliable agency? Do you have other agencies to recommend or experiences to share? Any advice is welcome.
Thanks! 🙂 Marine
A group of friends and I are heading to Brazil in March 2019 and we’d love to attend the Carnival parade. I could really use your help because I’m struggling to find reviews for online ticket sellers for Carnival. I came across rio-carnival—is this a reliable agency? Do you have other agencies to recommend or experiences to share? Any advice is welcome.
Thanks! 🙂 Marine
Everything You Need to Know About Argentina’s Currency Exchange Maze (2026 Edition)
Hi fellow travelers,
Packing your bags for Buenos Aires? Watch out—here, money is a science almost as complex as the dance steps in a tango!
As of March 2026, the situation has shifted dramatically: the "Blue" (parallel) rate is now neck-and-neck with the official rate. To save you from losing your hard-earned euros in bureaucratic mazes or "disastrous" exchange rates, I’ve laced up my reporter boots and hit the famous Calle Florida for you.
In my latest video (and the accompanying article), I take you behind the scenes of currency exchange:
Arbolitos and Cuevas: Who are they, and can you still trust them? The Rate Showdown: Why Banco Nación is currently the worst place for your savings. Western Union: Why it’s often your best ally right now. Cash or Card? The little secret to getting an instant 10–15% discount at restaurants or hotels. The Bill Trap: Why your 500 € notes or stained dollars might stay in your wallet.
Argentina changes fast—*very* fast (by the end of March, today’s advice might already be old news!). So don’t leave without checking the market’s pulse.
Check out all my tips in the video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKmKFux4fpQ
And remember: in Argentina, don’t exchange money on weekends—unless you want your cash to melt like snow in the sun!
Safe travels, and see you on the road! Hergé
Packing your bags for Buenos Aires? Watch out—here, money is a science almost as complex as the dance steps in a tango!
As of March 2026, the situation has shifted dramatically: the "Blue" (parallel) rate is now neck-and-neck with the official rate. To save you from losing your hard-earned euros in bureaucratic mazes or "disastrous" exchange rates, I’ve laced up my reporter boots and hit the famous Calle Florida for you.
In my latest video (and the accompanying article), I take you behind the scenes of currency exchange:
Arbolitos and Cuevas: Who are they, and can you still trust them? The Rate Showdown: Why Banco Nación is currently the worst place for your savings. Western Union: Why it’s often your best ally right now. Cash or Card? The little secret to getting an instant 10–15% discount at restaurants or hotels. The Bill Trap: Why your 500 € notes or stained dollars might stay in your wallet.
Argentina changes fast—*very* fast (by the end of March, today’s advice might already be old news!). So don’t leave without checking the market’s pulse.
Check out all my tips in the video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKmKFux4fpQ
And remember: in Argentina, don’t exchange money on weekends—unless you want your cash to melt like snow in the sun!
Safe travels, and see you on the road! Hergé





