Namibie: 4x4 sur la route D1983 au départ de Walvis Bay?
by Hdj
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour,
Le départ pour 5 semaines en Namibie approche et je me pose des questions sur l'intérêt de parcourir la D1983 au départ de Walvis, qui passe par Gobabis et Homeb pour rejoindre la C14 avant Kuiseb Pass .
C'est une piste qui nécessite un permis délivré par l'Office du Tourisme à Swakopmund.
Est-ce que ça vaut le coup de l'emprunter, sachant que ça augmente pas mal les km.
Si quelqu'un qui la connait pouvait me renseigner, ce serait sympa.
Merci d'avance.
Pierre
Bonjour Pierre,
Elle était dans mes projets il y a 10 jours, mais une crève carabinée qui m'a mis complètement à plat m'a fait aller au plus court ce jour-là, donc je ne connais toujours pas cette piste, mais je pense qu'elle doit avoir des similitudes avec celles que je connais entre les C14 et C28. Sûrement intéressante si pas pressé.
Quelques bébêtes et plusieurs inselbergs dans ce coin qui prennent de belles couleurs au couchant, mais pour en profiter, il faut y camper.
mais une crève carabinée qui m'a mis complètement à plat
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Tu n'avais pas ton petit kit de mèches et ton compresseur?😉 (Pardon HDJ pour cette petite plaisanterie entre initiés🙂)
Fils de pneus!🏴☠️😉🙂
(Insulte clermontoise)
Bonjour Pierre (Hdj de Montreuil),
J'ai emprunté cette piste en septembre dernier. Tu va partir de WB le matin, et le soir tu dois atterrir où ? à Sesriem ? Si c'est le cas ça me parait beaucoup trop long, ca va te faire une journée de 8 à 9 heures de route facile... Comme le dit l'autre Pierre, cette piste vaut le coup, mais en passant une nuit à Mirabib ou Homeb. Elle est bien moins monotone que la C14, tu longes les cordons de dunes, quelques villages Topnaar ça et là, puis quand tu bifurques pour récupérer la C14, un coup de savane. Quelques photos du campsite de Mirabib ici (après Sesriem) : http://voyageforum.com/forum/namibie-botswana-vic_falls_septembre-octobre_2011_D4567394/
Si tu veux des précisions/photos de route le long de cette piste, n'hésite pas ;)
J'ai emprunté cette piste en septembre dernier. Tu va partir de WB le matin, et le soir tu dois atterrir où ? à Sesriem ? Si c'est le cas ça me parait beaucoup trop long, ca va te faire une journée de 8 à 9 heures de route facile... Comme le dit l'autre Pierre, cette piste vaut le coup, mais en passant une nuit à Mirabib ou Homeb. Elle est bien moins monotone que la C14, tu longes les cordons de dunes, quelques villages Topnaar ça et là, puis quand tu bifurques pour récupérer la C14, un coup de savane. Quelques photos du campsite de Mirabib ici (après Sesriem) : http://voyageforum.com/forum/namibie-botswana-vic_falls_septembre-octobre_2011_D4567394/
Si tu veux des précisions/photos de route le long de cette piste, n'hésite pas ;)
Bonjour Laurent,
Effectivement, nous partirons de Walvis tôt le matin avec comme destination le Tsauchab River Camp qui se trouve au nord est de Sesriem; ça risque donc de faire beaucoup de piste. A voir maintenant la possibilité d'une étape au deux-tiers du trajet.
Sinon, j'ai vu sur ton carnet de voyage (au passage très belles photos de paysages) qu'il y avait intérêt à réserver à Klein Aus Vista, même en dehors de la haute saison.
Merci pour ces infos.
Pierre
Effectivement, nous partirons de Walvis tôt le matin avec comme destination le Tsauchab River Camp qui se trouve au nord est de Sesriem; ça risque donc de faire beaucoup de piste. A voir maintenant la possibilité d'une étape au deux-tiers du trajet.
Sinon, j'ai vu sur ton carnet de voyage (au passage très belles photos de paysages) qu'il y avait intérêt à réserver à Klein Aus Vista, même en dehors de la haute saison.
Merci pour ces infos.
Pierre
Si ton voyage n'est pas figé dans le marbre, tu pourras toujours décider de réserver Mirabib ou Homeb la veille, à WB ou Swakopmund. Je pense que ça ne posera aucun soucis niveau disponibilité, même si le nombre de places est très limité.
Si tu n'es pas trop pris par le temps, je pense que c'est un détour et une étape qui valent le coup, pour ma part j'ai vraiment aimé ce bivouac sauvage, seul au pied de mon inselberg !
Quand à Klein Aus Vista, il est victime de sa réputation (pas usurpée), il faut en effet se méfier de sa disponibilité.
Merci Pierre.
Le programme est arrêté depuis longtemps ainsi que certaines réservations.
Je n'ai pas voulu tout réserver pour laisser une certaine souplesse à notre voyage, pensant que, entre mi-mai et mi-juin, c'était la basse saison.
Le problème, c'est que dans la région de Aus, il n'y a pas tellement de solutions de rechange.
J'attends la réponse de Klein Aus Vista.
Oui, j'ai vu quelques commentaires de ce camp sur VF, pas très attirant, d'autant que nous avions prévu 2 nuits à Aus.
C'est, je pense, le "camp" sur lequel nous nous sommes retranchés quand nous avons été refoulé de Klein Aus Vista complet lors de notre seconde nuit dans le coin.
Juste en face de la station service, c'est d'ailleurs à la station service qu'il faut s'adresser. (vieux barbu pas super aimable)
5-6 emplacement sur un terrain herbeux tout petit, entouré d'un mur, vraiment déprimant, mon seul souvenir négatif de notre voyage...(bloc sanitaire clean néanmoins)
Il y a aussi un hôtel à 50 mètres de là, on n'est pas allé voir les tarifs ou la disponibilité.
Pour Klein Aus Vista, si le camping est complet, les premiers types de "bungalows" ne sont pas hors de prix, mais complets aussi dans notre cas.
Je ne sais pas quel type d'hébergement tu recherches, mais si jamais ca pouvait t’intéresser (genre tu n'as qu'une nuit possible à Klein Aus Vista), il y a aussi le camping de Diaz Point, sur la péninsule de Lüderitz, mais difficilement envisageable avec tente sur le toit si le vent souffle fort. Pour du sauvage, la plage de Grosse Buchte à l'extrémité sud de la péninsule, un peu moins venteuse, solitude assurée !
Je ne sais pas quel type d'hébergement tu recherches, mais si jamais ca pouvait t’intéresser (genre tu n'as qu'une nuit possible à Klein Aus Vista), il y a aussi le camping de Diaz Point, sur la péninsule de Lüderitz, mais difficilement envisageable avec tente sur le toit si le vent souffle fort. Pour du sauvage, la plage de Grosse Buchte à l'extrémité sud de la péninsule, un peu moins venteuse, solitude assurée !
Si Klein Aus Vista n'est pas disponible, comme nous ne voulons pas aller à Luderitz, nous chercherons un camping dans l'une des fermes du Tiras, le long de la D 707. J'ai vu qu'il y en avait plusieurs avec quelques emplacements de camping. C'est à environ 50-80 km au nord d'Aus.
Salut Pierre.
Koiimasis : les emplacements de camping sont superbement aménagés (bien mieux que Klein Aus Vista) et la situation de la ferme dans sa vallée est très belle. Mais c'est bien cher pour du camping… Et je pense qu'il faut réserver aussi, il n'y a que trois emplacements (peut-être 4 ?) et la ferme étant à 20 km de petite piste de la D707, ça serait bête d'aller jusque là pour te casser le nez. Je ne connais pas les autres dans les Tirasberge.
Sinon, le détour vers Lüderitz est vite fait et je trouve qu'il vaut plutôt le coup.
Bonjour Pierre,
Pour ceux qui arrivent à Aus et ne trouvent pas de place, à 45 km au nord de Aus sur la C13: Tirool camping+chalets Le long de la superbe piste D707 , 2 endroits sont particulièrement bien situés le Ranch Koiimasis coup de coeur de tous ceux qui y sont passés et la Kanaan farm . Bon voyage Pierre !😉
Pour ceux qui arrivent à Aus et ne trouvent pas de place, à 45 km au nord de Aus sur la C13: Tirool camping+chalets Le long de la superbe piste D707 , 2 endroits sont particulièrement bien situés le Ranch Koiimasis coup de coeur de tous ceux qui y sont passés et la Kanaan farm . Bon voyage Pierre !😉
Michelle
Merci à tous,
Je connais Koiimasis, j'ai réservé pour le retour du Kgalagadi.
Je crois que nous allons forcément trouver un hébergement aux alentours d'Aus si Klein Aus Vista s'avère complet.
Pierre
L’hôtel en centre ville de Aus : http://www.hotel-aus.com/
Sur Google Maps on devine le "camping" sinistre en face de la station service (le vague rectangle juste au sud de l'hotel en A, à l'intersection avec la mini route transversale) : Fuyez pauvres fous !
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=hotel+aus+namibia&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&ie=UTF8&hl=en&hq=hotel&hnear=Aus, +Karas, +Namibia&t=h&z=16
Sur Google Maps on devine le "camping" sinistre en face de la station service (le vague rectangle juste au sud de l'hotel en A, à l'intersection avec la mini route transversale) : Fuyez pauvres fous !
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=hotel+aus+namibia&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&ie=UTF8&hl=en&hq=hotel&hnear=Aus, +Karas, +Namibia&t=h&z=16
Bonjour Laurent,
C'est chouette d'avoir tous les hébergements repris sur Google et de les trouver d'un simple clic !
Questions d'une non initiée en informatique :
Est-ce toi qui a réalisé cela ? Cela existe-t-il pour plusieurs destinations ?
😊
Michelle
Bonjour Michelle,
Du tout, je n'ai rien fait, je me suis contenté de cliquer sur l'onglet "location" sur le site de l'hotel Banhof de Aus, puis sur le lien Google maps !
Oui tu peux faire la même chose pour n'importe quelle destination, via google maps, et s'afficheront tout ce qui est référencé.
Va sur Google maps (tape google maps dans google, premier lien), puis dans la barre de recherche, tu tapes ce que tu veux (par exemple sesriem hotels...)
Du tout, je n'ai rien fait, je me suis contenté de cliquer sur l'onglet "location" sur le site de l'hotel Banhof de Aus, puis sur le lien Google maps !
Oui tu peux faire la même chose pour n'importe quelle destination, via google maps, et s'afficheront tout ce qui est référencé.
Va sur Google maps (tape google maps dans google, premier lien), puis dans la barre de recherche, tu tapes ce que tu veux (par exemple sesriem hotels...)
Merci bcp Laurent !
Va sur Google maps (tape google maps dans google, premier lien), puis dans la barre de recherche, tu tapes ce que tu veux (par exemple sesriem hotels...) Bien sûr, c'est comme tous les sites:google ne reprend pas tous les hébergements, 🙁 ce serait trop beau ! 🙂
Je me rends compte que je n'utilise Google earth qu'à 1/100 ème de ses possibilités ! ! Grâce à toi j'ai atteint 2/100 èmes ! 🙂 😎
Va sur Google maps (tape google maps dans google, premier lien), puis dans la barre de recherche, tu tapes ce que tu veux (par exemple sesriem hotels...) Bien sûr, c'est comme tous les sites:google ne reprend pas tous les hébergements, 🙁 ce serait trop beau ! 🙂
Je me rends compte que je n'utilise Google earth qu'à 1/100 ème de ses possibilités ! ! Grâce à toi j'ai atteint 2/100 èmes ! 🙂 😎
Michelle
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I’m traveling through Argentina and Chile (as well as Paraguay and Uruguay) with a 2019 Toyota Hilux Euro 6. Could anyone tell me if the local diesel is suitable for its engine, or if I need to take any special precautions (like adding an additive, for example) for these countries? I’d also like to know if driving at high altitudes is possible, and up to what elevation—or if I should worry about the vehicle going into limp mode? If that happens, what should I do?
Thanks in advance
Hi there,
Can you tell me if the road between Zagora and M'Gouna is easy or difficult for a 4x4? How much time and how many kilometers should I plan for? I’m traveling in May.
Thanks!
Hi there,
My trip to South Africa is starting to take shape.
However, I'm struggling to figure out the route through Kruger Park. I can't seem to find the information I need about getting around.
Coming from the south, I plan to arrive on Day 1 in the early afternoon at Malelane or Crocodile Bridge.
Do some shopping in Malelane (or Crocodile Bridge main area) and stay overnight outside the park.
Leave on Day 2 at 5 AM for the park. Explore the southern part of the park.
Stay overnight around Skukuza or Lower Sabie. (We don’t want to stay in one of the park’s big camps. We’re looking for a lodge around 200 €.
Head out on Day 3 for a self-drive safari, maybe as far as Orpen.
We’d like to stay in a private reserve on nights 4 and 5.
We’re not sure which one or how to get into a private reserve. Do we need to exit Kruger Park?
On Day 5, we’d like to leave to visit Blyde Canyon (on Day 6).
Could you help us with these different locations?
Thanks
Could you help us with these different locations?
Thanks
Hi there,
I’m planning to leave Morocco for the summer but want to leave my 4x4 there to avoid exceeding the famous 6-month limit. I’d like to park it in one of the two Spanish enclaves (Ceuta or Melilla). Does anyone know of people or companies that handle long-term parking (preferably secure) in either place? Once the car is parked, what’s the best way to get back to France using public transport? Is the nearest airport Tanger from Ceuta?... How do I get there easily, etc. etc.
Thanks in advance! Dominique
I’m planning to leave Morocco for the summer but want to leave my 4x4 there to avoid exceeding the famous 6-month limit. I’d like to park it in one of the two Spanish enclaves (Ceuta or Melilla). Does anyone know of people or companies that handle long-term parking (preferably secure) in either place? Once the car is parked, what’s the best way to get back to France using public transport? Is the nearest airport Tanger from Ceuta?... How do I get there easily, etc. etc.
Thanks in advance! Dominique
hello! I’d like to go to Kazakhstan and rent a fitted 4x4 locally so I can drive off-road trails and sleep inside the vehicle... could anyone share some local rental company addresses, please? Thanks! !
Hi,
I'm about to rent a self-drive 4x4 in Mongolia. Has anyone heard of GOBI.RENT? Otherwise, do you have any tips for checking this company since there's no info on their website (e.g., registration number on the RCS)?
Thanks
I'm about to rent a self-drive 4x4 in Mongolia. Has anyone heard of GOBI.RENT? Otherwise, do you have any tips for checking this company since there's no info on their website (e.g., registration number on the RCS)?
Thanks
Hi everyone,
I’m finalizing my trip starting from Namibia. When I arrive in Divundu, I’d like to head straight to the Khwai area early in the morning to one of the campsites in the Khwai Development Trust. Is the drive doable with a good 4x4 in a day? We’ll spend 2 nights in Khwai, then 2 or maybe 3 nights in the Moremi area (Third Bridge/Xakanaxa/Mboma) before heading back to Maun to wrap up our journey. Is that too much time to spend in each place?
We’d also like to do one or two boat excursions in the delta. Any suggestions for the best options and operators?
Thanks in advance for your tips and advice! Best, Patrick
I’m finalizing my trip starting from Namibia. When I arrive in Divundu, I’d like to head straight to the Khwai area early in the morning to one of the campsites in the Khwai Development Trust. Is the drive doable with a good 4x4 in a day? We’ll spend 2 nights in Khwai, then 2 or maybe 3 nights in the Moremi area (Third Bridge/Xakanaxa/Mboma) before heading back to Maun to wrap up our journey. Is that too much time to spend in each place?
We’d also like to do one or two boat excursions in the delta. Any suggestions for the best options and operators?
Thanks in advance for your tips and advice! Best, Patrick
Hi everyone,
I’m planning to explore the western part of Madagascar from May 1st to 5th, specifically to visit the Tsingy. I’ve heard different versions about the road conditions and access to the Tsingy during this time, so I’d love to hear from people who’ve actually made this trip during this time of year.
Have you traveled from Morondava → Tsingy between May 1st and 5th? Was the journey doable and safe? Did you have access to the Grands Tsingy, or just the Petits Tsingy?
Thanks so much for your feedback—it’ll really help me get a clearer picture! 😊 Also, if you have any recommendations for reliable and experienced driver-guides, I’d love to hear them. Thanks again!
Have you traveled from Morondava → Tsingy between May 1st and 5th? Was the journey doable and safe? Did you have access to the Grands Tsingy, or just the Petits Tsingy?
Thanks so much for your feedback—it’ll really help me get a clearer picture! 😊 Also, if you have any recommendations for reliable and experienced driver-guides, I’d love to hear them. Thanks again!







