Obtention du visa de tourisme pour le Soudan en France
by 9nouchka1
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Bonjour,
je souhaiterai partir au Soudan en solo fin mars 2007. Il y a beaucoup de discussion sur ce forum sur l'obtention du visa hors de France mais rien sur la France. L'ambassade du soudan en France exige-t'elle une invitation pour la délivrance du visa ? une réservation dans un hôtel de Khartoum pour 2 nuits suffit-elle ?
merci de votre aide
L'ambassade du Soudan à Paris exige absolument une invitation du Soudan. Quand j'ai voulu y aller cet été, j'ai du réserver dans un hôtel cher de Khartoum (l'Acropole) tenu par 3 frères grecs arrivés là il y a 50 ans, et une fois que j'ai eu leur message, l'ambassade m'a founri le visa (50 euros je crois). Je n'y suis resté qu'une nuit avant d'aller ailleurs mais ils ont fait toutes les démarches (permis de photo, voyage dans l'est etc, ...)
Merci pour l'info
je reviens du consulat, et il faut désormais une attestation d'une agence de voyage en France ou locale, la réservation d'hôtel ne suffit pas ou plus! Devant moi, 2 personnes qui travaillent pour une ONG américaine ce sont fait gentillement mais fermement fermer la porte du visa!
Si tu sais le faire, tu devrais peut-être te rendre en Suisse ou en Belgique pour faire ta demande.
Le tout étant de voir ce que risque de te coûter cette attestation par rapport au voyage pour faire la demande de visa.
Concernant une agence française, j'ai bien peur de comprendre que cela signifie devoir "moutoner" en troupeau.
Peut-être plus de liberté en traitant avec une agence locale sur Khartoum? Mais à quel prix??
Si tu veux la paix, au plus proche, c'est BXL ou la Suisse...
Courage...
Mais le pays en vaut la peine
Michel
ça complique tout. La piste proposée par mvbergen ? est peut-être bonne; je sais qu'avant par l'Egypte consulat du Soudan au Caire et à Assouan c'était facile, le Bradt en parlait et j'ai rencontré en Egypte un voyageur qui avait obtenu son visa par cette filière. Mais depuis la médiatisation du Darfour, les choses ont certainement changé. Dommage, le pays, et ses habitants extraordinaires, valent un long détour.
Bonne chance
Je confirme que lorsque je me suis renseigné sur les modalités d'octroi du visa soudanais, un forumiste francçais (fili) m'avait confirmé qu'il avait reçu son visa de la sorte à BXL alors qu'il était bien de nationalité française.
On m'avait aussi indiqué qu'il était aisé de l'obtenir à Doha (Qatar) ainsi qu'au Caire.
Dans ce cas, le bémol est toujours le temps disponible car il faut d'abord s'y rendre, effectuer les démarches puis rejoindre le Soudan...
Pourquoi ne pas donner un coup de fil au consul de l'ambassade à BXL afin de savoir de vive voix si le visa peut-être délivré de la sorte?
Courage
Le pays vaut la peine d'être visité
Michel
bonjour, est-ce qu'en réservant un billet d'avion avec une agence comme opodo, leur attestation suffit en tant qu'agence de voyage?
librairie spécialisée voyage à Lille:
http://www.autourdumonde-lille.com/
ok, merci pour ce précieux renseignement.
Est-ce qu'il y a un moyen d'obtenir cette attestation sans payer une agence quelconque? Sinon, quel est le moyen d'avoir cette attestation en payant le moins possible? (Tu auras compris que je n'ai nullement besoin d'une agence...)
MERCI!
Fred
www.myspace.com/rfamusik
librairie spécialisée voyage à Lille:
http://www.autourdumonde-lille.com/
tu demandes à une agence un devis pour ton périple, tu leur donnes ton accord sans verser quoi que ce soit, ensuite l'agence envoie au consulat une confirmation comme quoi tu vas voyager avec eux pendant x jours, et une fois ton visa en poche tu oublies de recontacter l'agence jusqu'à ton départ au Soudan. Attention, ceci marchait l'année dernière, je ne sais pas si ça marche toujours.
autre info, je ne me suis jamais enregistrée au Soudan au service spécial pour les étrangers en arrivant, j'ai économisé 50USD, le seul risque que tu prends si tu ne le fais pas, c'est qu'on te réexpédie chez toi le jour où tu prends l'avion de retour, ça tombe bien c'est le moment de ton départ!
Bonjour, combien t'as couté la nuit chez les grecs avec tous leurs services compris?
librairie spécialisée voyage à Lille:
http://www.autourdumonde-lille.com/
pas bête d'esquiver l'enregistrement des étrangers en arrivant... Seulement je quitte le pays par la frontière egyptienne, j'ao donc peur qu'on me renvoie à khartoum de là-bas, puis que je rentre chez moi... (je compte bien rentrer jusqu'en france par la route).
Sinon tu as le nom d'une agence susceptible de me faire un devis rapide et gratuit?
librairie spécialisée voyage à Lille:
http://www.autourdumonde-lille.com/
je ne me suis jamais enregistrée au Soudan au service spécial pour les étrangers en arrivant
Attention, bien garder en tête que l'enregistrement (comme le visa) sera contrôlé par les flics pour loger dans certaines localités: Karima, Ed Deba ou Dongola par exemple. Je peux comprendre pour l'économie mais ce n'est pas sans risque. Ne fusse que devoir y aller "manu militari" une fois que l'on aura été "découvert". Ils sont procéduriers et peuvent ne pas bien le prendre... On ne finit pas au poste (logiquement) pour cela mais vous risquez de vous faire remonter les bretelles... Il faut également pouvoir reprendre son vol ou quitter le territoire overland... Michel
Attention, bien garder en tête que l'enregistrement (comme le visa) sera contrôlé par les flics pour loger dans certaines localités: Karima, Ed Deba ou Dongola par exemple. Je peux comprendre pour l'économie mais ce n'est pas sans risque. Ne fusse que devoir y aller "manu militari" une fois que l'on aura été "découvert". Ils sont procéduriers et peuvent ne pas bien le prendre... On ne finit pas au poste (logiquement) pour cela mais vous risquez de vous faire remonter les bretelles... Il faut également pouvoir reprendre son vol ou quitter le territoire overland... Michel
Je ne me suis pas enregistrée, non par économie, mais pour gagner une bonne 1/2 journée de voyage car c'est tout de même le temps nécessaire pour s'enregistrer, la procédure est ultra galère, sans compter le temps pour trouver le bâtiment à Khartoum qui venait juste de déménager quand j'y étais donc j'ai du traverser la ville par 2 fois, il faut avoir des photos d'identité en je ne sais combien d'exemplaires, des photocopies de son passeport, etc...au bout de 2 heures de péripétie j'ai fini par tourner les talons du service des étrangers, sans leur tampon.
J'ai toujours été invitée à dormir chez l'habitant donc c'est vrai que je n'ai pas eu de problème de contrôle, sûrement aussi parce que je suis une femme. Juste une fois un flic a voulu contrôler mes papiers mais j'ai joué la blonde européenne un peu idiote aux yeux bleus pour le faire repartir bredouille!
Je comprends parfaitement mais avouez que l’on ne peut quand même pas encourager cette façon de procéder.
Tout le monde n’est pas une blonde aux yeux bleus…
Sans enregistrement, le logement dans les funduks devient alors réellement problématique…
Et ne parlons même pas d’un éventuel contrôle…comme par exemple pour accéder à la nouvelle gare des bus (de Khartoum) pour rallier Wad Medani ou Gedaref…
Michel
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There are two ways to look at it:
1) The first day she spent in the Schengen Area was January 21st. That day will drop out of the calculation 180 days later, on July 20th.
From July 20th, she’ll get back 1 day of possible stay; on July 22nd, 2 days; and so on. All the days from her previous stay (January 21st–April 16th) need to be outside the 180-day rolling window. The last day of her stay was April 16th. Looking 180 days ahead, that brings us to October 13th. From that date, she’ll be able to return for a full 90 days. 2) The number of allowed days is calculated for each day of the new stay. In other words: the 180-day window is recalculated every day, not fixed at the entry date. If she re-enters France on July 18th, she’ll only have a “credit” of 4 days. But with each day of her new stay, one day from the previous stay (January–April) will drop out of the calculation. The rolling window allows her to “replace” days from the previous stay with those of the new stay, without ever exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period. In this case, my partner could stay in France for 90 days starting on July 18th. The Prefecture doesn’t provide any information, nor does Air France, and in the forums I’ve checked, opinions are divided. Thanks for any insights you can share!
Hello,
We’re planning to travel to Indonesia (Sulawesi with family) next July and August for a stay longer than a month (about 6 weeks).
I’ve seen that it’s possible to get a 60-day visa before departure, but I’ve also read about people having a lot of trouble getting it (some even didn’t manage and had to leave without it).
We absolutely need to have these 4 visas BEFORE leaving because once we’re in Sulawesi, I’m not sure we’ll be able to go to an embassy to request a visa extension after 30 days.
In short, how can we **100% guarantee** that we’ll get our 4 60-day visas before our trip this summer?
Thanks for your valuable tips!
Elodie
In short, how can we **100% guarantee** that we’ll get our 4 60-day visas before our trip this summer?
Thanks for your valuable tips!
Elodie
Hi there,
I’m leaving for Japan in a few weeks. I just noticed my passport has an ink stain on the signature page. Could this cause any issues?
I’m leaving for Japan in a few weeks. I just noticed my passport has an ink stain on the signature page. Could this cause any issues?
Hello, HAPPY NEW YEAR 2026!
We’re heading back in October for a trip through Botswana, Zambia, and Zimbabwe.
I have a question: for our route, we’ll need to cross the Zambia and Zimbabwe borders twice each. From experience, I know we won’t have any issues with Botswana.
But for the other two countries, I can’t find a clear answer.
All your tips are welcome!
Thanks for your replies
Thanks for your replies
Hi everyone!
I’m currently a student on a gap year, and I don’t plan to go back to school right away. That said, traveling really interests me. But I’ve been wondering: does being a student come with any perks when you decide to go abroad? The real question is whether I should re-enroll in a program just to keep that status without actually attending.
Thanks in advance for your replies,
Axel
I’m currently a student on a gap year, and I don’t plan to go back to school right away. That said, traveling really interests me. But I’ve been wondering: does being a student come with any perks when you decide to go abroad? The real question is whether I should re-enroll in a program just to keep that status without actually attending.
Thanks in advance for your replies,
Axel






