Parc national de Bako en Malaisie
by Bigyaya
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
bonjour,
je pars prochainement en Malaisie (du 7 au 30 juillet)
je me rends à Kuching et j'aimerais savoir quelles sont les meilleurs balades à faire au Parc National de Bako ?
En effet, il y a plusieurs itinéraires, et je pense que certains valent plus le coup que d'autres.
merci pour les réponses.
Yannick
Salut
Ben ça dépend si tu y vas pour la journée ou si tu veux yrester plusieurs jours.
Perso j'y vais à la journée et je vais à Paku si j'arrive tard (J'y ai vu les singes à grand nez à chaque fois) ou Pandan Besar si j'ai plus de temps. Tu emmènes à boire et à manger et tu peux te baigner et revenir à la base vers 4 ou 5 h prendre le bateau pour le retour. Attention en semaine il y a peu de monde et tu risques de devoir prendre un bateau pour toi seul (80 Rm A/R)
Il y a la possibilité de manger au petit restau pas cher sur place aussi.(demander les bières au comptoir) Si tu veux je peux essayer de mettre le plan en pièce jointe.
Michel
Ben ça dépend si tu y vas pour la journée ou si tu veux yrester plusieurs jours.
Perso j'y vais à la journée et je vais à Paku si j'arrive tard (J'y ai vu les singes à grand nez à chaque fois) ou Pandan Besar si j'ai plus de temps. Tu emmènes à boire et à manger et tu peux te baigner et revenir à la base vers 4 ou 5 h prendre le bateau pour le retour. Attention en semaine il y a peu de monde et tu risques de devoir prendre un bateau pour toi seul (80 Rm A/R)
Il y a la possibilité de manger au petit restau pas cher sur place aussi.(demander les bières au comptoir) Si tu veux je peux essayer de mettre le plan en pièce jointe.
Michel
Salut Y,
Il y a en effet plusieurs sentiers, et cela dépend de ta condition physique, et du nombre de km que tu veux faire par jour (et combien de jours): tous les sentiers sont bien flèchés et il y en a de 3-12 km (ou plus)... ce sont tous des boucles qui partent et arrivent au point de départ ( la réception du parc)... si tu montes vers le nord, c'est plus aride avec un haut plateau et de belles vues plongeantes sur la mer... ou vers le sud, végétation plus dense avec mangroves ... j'ai aperçu des singes à long nez (probiscus) des deux côtés... Petite préférence pour le sud.. le nord était très chaud et assez aride (j'y étais en juin). Mais les deux côtés intéressants et faisables si tu restes 2 jours (une nuit).
Ce qui est sympa c'est de loger sur place... Il vaut mieux réserver à l'avance puisque tu y vas en période de vacances - Tu réserves facilement à l'office du tourisme à Kuching - ils sont très sympa là (très bien organisés les malaisiens).
Il y a un bus public qui part de Kuching (1 par heure si je me souviens bien) et qui te dépose là où il faut prendre le bateau pour le parc. Il vaut en effet mieux trouver quelques autres personnes pour partager les frais du bateau...
Bon amusement,
F
Il y a en effet plusieurs sentiers, et cela dépend de ta condition physique, et du nombre de km que tu veux faire par jour (et combien de jours): tous les sentiers sont bien flèchés et il y en a de 3-12 km (ou plus)... ce sont tous des boucles qui partent et arrivent au point de départ ( la réception du parc)... si tu montes vers le nord, c'est plus aride avec un haut plateau et de belles vues plongeantes sur la mer... ou vers le sud, végétation plus dense avec mangroves ... j'ai aperçu des singes à long nez (probiscus) des deux côtés... Petite préférence pour le sud.. le nord était très chaud et assez aride (j'y étais en juin). Mais les deux côtés intéressants et faisables si tu restes 2 jours (une nuit).
Ce qui est sympa c'est de loger sur place... Il vaut mieux réserver à l'avance puisque tu y vas en période de vacances - Tu réserves facilement à l'office du tourisme à Kuching - ils sont très sympa là (très bien organisés les malaisiens).
Il y a un bus public qui part de Kuching (1 par heure si je me souviens bien) et qui te dépose là où il faut prendre le bateau pour le parc. Il vaut en effet mieux trouver quelques autres personnes pour partager les frais du bateau...
Bon amusement,
F
Fabekke
salut
je veux bien le plan, il me semble l'avoir déjà vu sur un site mais je ne rappelle plus où !
tu es à Kuching actuellement ?
quels sont les attraits pricipaux de cette ville ?
nous arrivons vers le 11 juillet si je me souviens bien de notre planning.
peut-être aurons nous l'occasion de se croiser.
merci pour les réponses
merci pour les réponses
Yannick
bonjour, complètement d'accord avec ce qui a été dit par "Fabeque".C'est sympa de dormir sur place après avoir réservé.Nous y sommes restés 3 nuits.
kuching est une jolie petite ville au bord de la rivière . Faire la promenade en bateau le soir, le bateau descend la rivière et la remonte au coucher du soleil, magnifique, c'est l'heure où les avironneurs font leur competition ! Le musée est bien interessant
Des promenades le soir sur la promenade, une ambiance très cool, aussi des magasins immenses, une bonne base pour rayonner dans la région.
Confirmation: Kuching est une ville très très agréable... promenade le soir le long de la rivière, excellent restos dans la ville, passé colonial très riche avec belles demeures... quartier chinois.. quartier musulman.. de tout! avec sans doute un des meilleur musée de l'Asie du Sud-est: le Sarawak Museum - musée d'histoire naturelle! (vous me direz peut-être, pourquoi aller s'enfermer dans un musée, mais cela vaut vraiment la peine - dans une belle demeure - avec grand parc autour et quelques beaux aquariums - très bien aménagé... ils sont très bien organisés les malaisiens!)...
Bon amusement
Fab
Bon amusement
Fab
Fabekke
Salut
Désolé pour la qualité du plan qui a traîné dans ma poche.
Attention pour les plus longues balades, la journée ne suffit pas. Je ne sais pas si je serai à Kuching quand tu passeras. Peut-être à la fin du mois de juillet seulement. C'est vraiment une petite ville sympa. Bon séjour sur Bornéo.
Michel
Attention pour les plus longues balades, la journée ne suffit pas. Je ne sais pas si je serai à Kuching quand tu passeras. Peut-être à la fin du mois de juillet seulement. C'est vraiment une petite ville sympa. Bon séjour sur Bornéo.
Michel
Jolie photo du nasique....pas évident de réussir de les avoir de si près !!!
Tu vis sur Kuching maintenant ? yann
Tu vis sur Kuching maintenant ? yann
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Salut
Pour l'instant je suis les 3/4 du temps à KL et 1/4 à Kuching. Pour les nasiques si il y a peu de monde ils se laissent approcher surtout si c'est dans la forêt. Ils sont plus faciles à voire dans la mangrove à marée basse mais de plus loin.
J'ai ajouté une autre image que j'avais d'abord éliminée !!
Michel
Pour l'instant je suis les 3/4 du temps à KL et 1/4 à Kuching. Pour les nasiques si il y a peu de monde ils se laissent approcher surtout si c'est dans la forêt. Ils sont plus faciles à voire dans la mangrove à marée basse mais de plus loin.
J'ai ajouté une autre image que j'avais d'abord éliminée !!
Michel
Salut Michel,
Kuching a l'air d'être une ville très intéréssante, et si l'on croit le LP elle serait la plus authentique du pays. Faudra vraiment que j'aille dans le Sarawak un jour...Cette année c'est le grand nord de Sabah et je descends ensuite dans le Kalimantan. A Kinabatangan, nous n'avions pas vu les proboscis d'aussi près, cela aurait été dommage de virer cette photo. Tu as un gros objectif ?
a + yann🙂
Kuching a l'air d'être une ville très intéréssante, et si l'on croit le LP elle serait la plus authentique du pays. Faudra vraiment que j'aille dans le Sarawak un jour...Cette année c'est le grand nord de Sabah et je descends ensuite dans le Kalimantan. A Kinabatangan, nous n'avions pas vu les proboscis d'aussi près, cela aurait été dommage de virer cette photo. Tu as un gros objectif ?
a + yann🙂
Thailande, Maldives, Malaisie péninsulaire et Sabah, Kalimantan, Sulawesi, Moluques, Egypte, Sumatra. Archipel de Takabonerate l'été dernier.
www.voyagefamille.net
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Salut
Bon alors c'est que tu n'as pas remarqué les détails de la photo !! Mon appareil est un petit Canon à 620 + boîtier plongée pour la mer c'est sûr mais aussi parfois quand il tombe des cordes. La photo a été retaillée, en réalité la bête était un poil plus loin.
Michel
Bon alors c'est que tu n'as pas remarqué les détails de la photo !! Mon appareil est un petit Canon à 620 + boîtier plongée pour la mer c'est sûr mais aussi parfois quand il tombe des cordes. La photo a été retaillée, en réalité la bête était un poil plus loin.
Michel
On est resté une semaine à Bako, il y a assez de trecks et autres promenades pour combler toutes les envies. Les pistes sont différentes les unes des autres avec des paysages différents à chaque fois. Concernant les Proboscis (singes nasiques) on a pu en voir de très très près, pas loin du camp pricipal. Ne pas hésiter par temps pluvieux à aller sur les pontons au dessus de la mangrove, on en a vu à plusieurs reprises qui se nourrissaient de la mangrove à un mètre de nous. On les croise aussi dans quelques trecks, il faut bien entendu rester silencieux et être un peu patient pour les voir de près et les observer, puis les suivres le long de la piste. Le tout est d'y aller avant l'arrivée des groupes qui viennent passer la journée (vers 10h du matin) et dont le nombre fait souvent fuir les singes nasiques. On peut organiser son temps pour aller à contre courant de ces groupes qui ont à peu près tous le même parcours. Après 17h Bako redevient plus calme. On peut marcher le long de la mangrove sur les même pontons après la tombée de la nuit. Il nous est arrivé de rester 2 heures assis sous les guerrites prévues à cette effet pour écouter les bruits de la jungle et distinguer les ombres des animaux traversant la mangrove (antimoustique nécessaire). Bako s'est avérré le parc le plus intéressant pour observer la Wildlife. Les trecks sont assez faciles et ne nécessitent pas de guide mais restent les meilleurs que l'on a pratiqué à Bornéo.
Bonjour, nous sommes 2 et nous arrivons a KL le 28/08/06, on souhaite repartir pour kuching, pour le parc de Bako. Comment aller de kuching a bako ? Prix du parc ? que nous conseillez vous pour le temps rester sur place ?
Nous n'avons pas de draps, que nous conseillez vous pour l'hébergement ?
On a quelques notions d'anglais, est ce possible sans guide de se débrouiller sur place ?
On souhaite également voir la ponte des tortues, ou avons nous le plus de chance d'en voir ?
Avez vous d'autres conseils par rapport à d'autres parcs ?
Merci d'avance
Salut
Pour aller à Bako il y a le bus, le taxi ou les mini bus qui emmènent de petits groupes organisés. Je ne connais pas les tarifs. L'entrée du parc coûte 10 Rm/pers. à l'embarquement et il faut aller faire valider en arrivant au "Head quarter". Le bateau 80 Rm jusqu'à 5 pers (On peut se regrouper). L'hébergement se fait dans des petits bungalows que je n'ai pas testés. On peut se balader seul dans le parc en emportant eau et pique-nique. Attention aux singes voleurs. Il y a un petit restau et une mini boutique sur place. Pour les tortues on peut en voir un peu partout, Tioman Redang et Perhentian. La ponte tu peux oublier il faudrait un vrai coup de chance.
Michel
Pour aller à Bako il y a le bus, le taxi ou les mini bus qui emmènent de petits groupes organisés. Je ne connais pas les tarifs. L'entrée du parc coûte 10 Rm/pers. à l'embarquement et il faut aller faire valider en arrivant au "Head quarter". Le bateau 80 Rm jusqu'à 5 pers (On peut se regrouper). L'hébergement se fait dans des petits bungalows que je n'ai pas testés. On peut se balader seul dans le parc en emportant eau et pique-nique. Attention aux singes voleurs. Il y a un petit restau et une mini boutique sur place. Pour les tortues on peut en voir un peu partout, Tioman Redang et Perhentian. La ponte tu peux oublier il faudrait un vrai coup de chance.
Michel
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Does anyone know of a private transfer or taxi company that organizes transfers from the Sukhothai area to Chiang Mai? Our routes are Sukhothai-Lampang, Lampang-Chom Thong, and Chom Thong-Chiang Mai. My searches on Google Maps, 12Go, and others haven’t turned up much...
For our Bangkok-Sukhothai trips, I use a company I’ve already tried, but they don’t have a fleet available from Sukhothai and have to go through third-party companies—which, understandably, take their commission. This nearly doubles the prices...
There are four of us, and we’re not traveling light, so a minibus isn’t an option. ;-)
Thanks for your tips! DrSnuggle
Hello,
While traveling in Thailand, I’m looking for a Buddhist kumlai reed bracelet.
Does anyone know where I can find one?
In Bangkok, I visited a few temples but didn’t see any in the nearby shops.
If you have any ideas, I’d love to hear them! Have a great day! :-)
Hi there
My trip’s coming up, and I’m having a bit of trouble with three bus/minivan routes. Usually, I find everything at this time of year, but this time—yikes!
Sandakan → Sepilok: No app for this one—you just hop on bus #14 at the local terminal (pay cash on board). But where do I catch it, and where’s the stop??
Sandakan → Semporna: From what I’ve heard, it’s the Sida Express company (great name, right? 😄). Can’t book online, but apparently, you *have* to because there’s only one bus at 8 AM. Where do I board, and where does it drop me off?
Semporna → Tawau: Found this via AI—is it legit? No online booking, as far as I can tell. Minivans leave from a stop in the Jalan Hospital area, near the Milimewa supermarket, supposedly???? And when you arrive, does it drop you at **Sabindo Square** in Tawau?????
Thanks for any tips—I’m stuck!
My trip’s coming up, and I’m having a bit of trouble with three bus/minivan routes. Usually, I find everything at this time of year, but this time—yikes!
Sandakan → Sepilok: No app for this one—you just hop on bus #14 at the local terminal (pay cash on board). But where do I catch it, and where’s the stop??
Sandakan → Semporna: From what I’ve heard, it’s the Sida Express company (great name, right? 😄). Can’t book online, but apparently, you *have* to because there’s only one bus at 8 AM. Where do I board, and where does it drop me off?
Semporna → Tawau: Found this via AI—is it legit? No online booking, as far as I can tell. Minivans leave from a stop in the Jalan Hospital area, near the Milimewa supermarket, supposedly???? And when you arrive, does it drop you at **Sabindo Square** in Tawau?????
Thanks for any tips—I’m stuck!
Hi there,
we’ll be in Mai Chau in June and we’re thinking of heading to Sapa, but first spending a few days in Bac Ha to do some hiking and explore the area.
Is this a good idea for those who’ve been there?
How do you get there?
Thanks for your feedback.
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Cédric.
Hi everyone. As I’m planning my trip for next winter, I’m looking for hotel suggestions in Camotes, Bantayan, Malapascua, Bohol, and Siquijor. The ones I had in mind seem to be fully booked (unless it’s too early?). For those familiar with the area, is it easy to find accommodations on the spot in January/February? I’m specifically looking for hotels with a pool, beachfront, air conditioning, and easy scooter rental nearby. Thanks for your tips!
Hi there,
I’m planning an itinerary and would love some feedback on whether it’s doable and if the number of days per destination is enough—or too much. I was also debating whether to add an extra night on an island or spend an extra night in Kampot to visit Kep or Battambang.
March 23: Arrival in Phnom Penh in the morning March 24: Phnom Penh March 25: Phnom Penh March 26: Depart for Kampot March 27: Kampot March 28: Depart for Battambang March 29: Battambang March 30: Tonlé SAP to Siem Reap March 31: Siem Reap April 1: Siem Reap April 2: Siem Reap April 3: Siem Reap April 4: Siem Reap April 5: Departure
Thanks for any suggestions or help!
March 23: Arrival in Phnom Penh in the morning March 24: Phnom Penh March 25: Phnom Penh March 26: Depart for Kampot March 27: Kampot March 28: Depart for Battambang March 29: Battambang March 30: Tonlé SAP to Siem Reap March 31: Siem Reap April 1: Siem Reap April 2: Siem Reap April 3: Siem Reap April 4: Siem Reap April 5: Departure
Thanks for any suggestions or help!
Hi there,
Yesterday in the Thailand section, 100% of the new threads were just about beach destinations 😕...
So here’s the counterattack in the form of this photo thread, dedicated solely to the countryside: the locals, their livestock, fields, farms, rice paddies, small rivers, and agricultural machinery. If you’ve got any pictures that fit these categories, feel free to add them!
Comments welcome.
For each photo, I’ll (or you can) indicate the area where it was taken.
Kanchanaburi:
Kanchanaburi:
Sri Chiangmai:
Soppong:
Tha Wang Pha:
Kanchanaburi:

Kanchanaburi:

Sri Chiangmai:

Soppong:

Tha Wang Pha:

🙂 Hi everyone!
Hope you're all doing well! It's been a while since I last traveled, but I'm finally heading out again soon!
For those familiar with SOUTHEAST ASIA, I'm planning to leave in mid-June (with the trip ending at the latest in November), and I don’t have a precise idea of exact places or itineraries yet. The thing is, this period is usually the rainy season...
Any advice? I was thinking of Malaysia or Indonesia, like Sulawesi, for example (all countries and islands in Southeast Asia interest me except Bali).
Any recommendations? I’m doing my research online, but if anyone here has the time and knowledge, I’d love to hear from you.
Thanks everyone, take care and stay happy! ❤️
Hope you're all doing well! It's been a while since I last traveled, but I'm finally heading out again soon!
For those familiar with SOUTHEAST ASIA, I'm planning to leave in mid-June (with the trip ending at the latest in November), and I don’t have a precise idea of exact places or itineraries yet. The thing is, this period is usually the rainy season...
Any advice? I was thinking of Malaysia or Indonesia, like Sulawesi, for example (all countries and islands in Southeast Asia interest me except Bali).
Any recommendations? I’m doing my research online, but if anyone here has the time and knowledge, I’d love to hear from you.
Thanks everyone, take care and stay happy! ❤️
Hi there,
My partner and I are planning a trip to Indonesia in September-October 2026. It’ll be our first time in Asia, and we’re thinking of hitting the classic spots in East Java and Bali, then wrapping up with a cruise around Komodo for some snorkeling/diving. Here’s a rough draft of our itinerary—I’m wondering if it’s doable.
20/09: Flight from Jakarta to Yogyakarta, arrive around noon, afternoon/evening and overnight in Yogyakarta. 21/09: Borobudur 22/09: Prambanan 23/09: Travel to Bromo (Cemoro Lawang) 24/09: Bromo 25/09: Kawa Ijen 26/09: Travel to Bali, overnight in Pemuteran 27/09: Excursion to Pulau Melujan, overnight in Pemuteran 28/09: Travel to Munduk, overnight in Munduk 29/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk 30/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk 01/10: Route to Ubud (via Pura Ulu Danau Bratan, Jatiluwih?), overnight in Ubud 02/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud 03/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud 04/10: Travel to Denpasar, flight to Labuan Bajo, overnight in Labuan Bajo 05/10: Komodo cruise 06/10: Komodo cruise 07/10: Komodo cruise, flight to Denpasar in the late afternoon/evening or overnight in Labuan Bajo. 08/10: Flight to Denpasar (if not taken the day before), afternoon in Jimbaran, overnight near Denpasar 09/10: 10:00 AM flight Denpasar - SIN, overnight in Singapore 10/10: Flight SIN-YQB
Thanks for your thoughts—and for your time!
My partner and I are planning a trip to Indonesia in September-October 2026. It’ll be our first time in Asia, and we’re thinking of hitting the classic spots in East Java and Bali, then wrapping up with a cruise around Komodo for some snorkeling/diving. Here’s a rough draft of our itinerary—I’m wondering if it’s doable.
20/09: Flight from Jakarta to Yogyakarta, arrive around noon, afternoon/evening and overnight in Yogyakarta. 21/09: Borobudur 22/09: Prambanan 23/09: Travel to Bromo (Cemoro Lawang) 24/09: Bromo 25/09: Kawa Ijen 26/09: Travel to Bali, overnight in Pemuteran 27/09: Excursion to Pulau Melujan, overnight in Pemuteran 28/09: Travel to Munduk, overnight in Munduk 29/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk 30/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk 01/10: Route to Ubud (via Pura Ulu Danau Bratan, Jatiluwih?), overnight in Ubud 02/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud 03/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud 04/10: Travel to Denpasar, flight to Labuan Bajo, overnight in Labuan Bajo 05/10: Komodo cruise 06/10: Komodo cruise 07/10: Komodo cruise, flight to Denpasar in the late afternoon/evening or overnight in Labuan Bajo. 08/10: Flight to Denpasar (if not taken the day before), afternoon in Jimbaran, overnight near Denpasar 09/10: 10:00 AM flight Denpasar - SIN, overnight in Singapore 10/10: Flight SIN-YQB
Thanks for your thoughts—and for your time!
Hi everyone,
My girlfriend and I booked our tickets with Saudia Airlines for a trip to Thailand this summer, from July 5th to August 3rd. Given the geopolitical situation in the Middle East, we’re keeping a close eye on the news.
I was wondering if anyone here is in the same situation as us?
• Have you heard anything about possible mass cancellations or if the airline is still maintaining its routes to Asia?
• Are there any travelers who’ve recently returned who could tell us if air corridors have been changed (longer flight times)?
The idea is to know what to expect so we can prepare as best as possible. Thanks for your replies! !
Hi everyone,
Thanks for all your contributions on the forum—they’ve really helped me plan my trip. There are four of us friends heading to Sulawesi for 20 days. Based on all your advice, I’ve put together the following itinerary:
July 30: Makassar – sightseeing July 31: Makassar – sightseeing + overnight bus to Rantepao August 1–7: Tana Toraja with a guide August 7: Tana Toraja to Tentena + visit Tentena August 8: Early departure with a private driver to Ampana, then ferry to the Togian Islands August 9–15: Togian Islands (2 different resorts) August 15: Depart Togian Islands for Luwuk August 16: Flight Luwuk to Makassar August 17: Rammang Rammang August 18: Stroll in Makassar, then return home
Overall, what do you think?
I also have a question about the connection between Tentena and the Togian Islands: Is it doable to leave early in the morning as planned and still be sure not to miss the ferry?
Thanks in advance for your feedback! :)
Thanks for all your contributions on the forum—they’ve really helped me plan my trip. There are four of us friends heading to Sulawesi for 20 days. Based on all your advice, I’ve put together the following itinerary:
July 30: Makassar – sightseeing July 31: Makassar – sightseeing + overnight bus to Rantepao August 1–7: Tana Toraja with a guide August 7: Tana Toraja to Tentena + visit Tentena August 8: Early departure with a private driver to Ampana, then ferry to the Togian Islands August 9–15: Togian Islands (2 different resorts) August 15: Depart Togian Islands for Luwuk August 16: Flight Luwuk to Makassar August 17: Rammang Rammang August 18: Stroll in Makassar, then return home
Overall, what do you think?
I also have a question about the connection between Tentena and the Togian Islands: Is it doable to leave early in the morning as planned and still be sure not to miss the ferry?
Thanks in advance for your feedback! :)
Hi everyone,
I’m currently working on a 30-day itinerary for May/June 2027.
10 days in eastern Java (Malang, Bromo, waterfalls, Meru Beriti Park, Banyuwangi, and Ijen), a short transit in Ubud for a few days, then Flores before heading back to Jakarta.
We’ll spend 15 days in Flores (the classic route: Moni, Bajawa, Riung, Ruteng, ending in Labuan Bajo).
I’d love some firsthand feedback on flights to Maumere or Ende from Bali Denpasar. I know there are no direct routes and that you have to connect through Labuan Bajo or Timor (I think), which isn’t an issue in itself.
But I’ve read here and there that flights to these destinations can be delayed—or worse, canceled—and that it’s better to fly in and out of Labuan Bajo, which isn’t exactly ideal...
Thanks for any tips or experiences you can share!








