Parcours en Malaisie / Bornéo été 2016
by Galak75
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour,
Je me lance, c'est la première fois que j'écris : d'habitude je lis plutôt vos conseils et avis qui aident beaucoup ! :)
Bref on part en famille (avec 2 enfants de 8 et 11 ans) mi juillet à mi août en Malaisie et j'aimerai bien avoir votre avis sur le parcours que nous avons commencé à établir. MErci d'avance !
- 16/07 : Arrivée KL
- 16 au 20/07 : KL (quatre nuits)
- 20 au 22/07 : Malacca (trois nuits c'est trop ??)
- 22/07 avion jusqu'à Kuching
- du 22/07 jusqu'au 28/07 : Kuching dont deux nuits dans le parc de Bako, visite du centre d'aide aux orangs outan, des caves, balade dans la ville qui a l'air sympa,
- avion le 28/07 jusqu'à l'aéroport près des îles Perenthians
- du 29/07 jusqu'au 04/08 : Iles Perenthians (Besar a priori)
- du 04/08 au 10/08 : ile Kapas
retour sur KL
et il nous reste qq jours à caser et on se demandait si un petit break dans les camerons highlands valait le coup peut être avant Malacca ? Mais les témoiganges de visites ultra organisées me font un peu peur... ou plus longtemps à Bornéo ?
Merci beaucoup pour votre aide :))
galak75
Bonjour,
Je me lance, c'est la première fois que j'écris : d'habitude je lis plutôt vos conseils et avis qui aident beaucoup ! :)
Bref on part en famille (avec 2 enfants de 8 et 11 ans) mi juillet à mi août en Malaisie et j'aimerai bien avoir votre avis sur le parcours que nous avons commencé à établir. MErci d'avance !
- 16/07 : Arrivée KL
- 16 au 20/07 : KL (quatre nuits)
- 20 au 22/07 : Malacca (trois nuits c'est trop ??)
- 22/07 avion jusqu'à Kuching
- du 22/07 jusqu'au 28/07 : Kuching dont deux nuits dans le parc de Bako, visite du centre d'aide aux orangs outan, des caves, balade dans la ville qui a l'air sympa,
- avion le 28/07 jusqu'à l'aéroport près des îles Perenthians
- du 29/07 jusqu'au 04/08 : Iles Perenthians (Besar a priori)
- du 04/08 au 10/08 : ile Kapas
retour sur KL
et il nous reste qq jours à caser et on se demandait si un petit break dans les camerons highlands valait le coup peut être avant Malacca ? Mais les témoiganges de visites ultra organisées me font un peu peur... ou plus longtemps à Bornéo ?
Merci beaucoup pour votre aide :))
galak75
Une petite aide ? Un avis : merci d'avance :-)
Une petite aide ? Un avis : merci d'avance :-)
- 16 au 20/07 : KL (quatre nuits)
Je ne pense pas que KL mérite 4 nuits.
- 20 au 22/07 : Malacca (trois nuits c'est trop ??)
2 nuits peuvent suffire, le centre historique est assez petit
et il nous reste qq jours à caser et on se demandait si un petit break dans les camerons highlands valait le coup peut être avant Malacca ? Mais les témoiganges de visites ultra organisées me font un peu peur... ou plus longtemps à Bornéo ?
On a bien aimé les Cameron Highlands, surtout les plantations de thé et la Mossy Forest. Le reste ne vaut pas forcement le détour, surtout pas les plantations de fraises qui ne font que défigurer le paysage. On y a passer 2 demies journées/1 nuit et ça nous a suffit. Je vous conseille Georgetown/Penang, que nous avons presque préféré à Malacca. Pour les enfants, Cherating peut valoir le coup : ponte de tortues, ballade en bateau sur la mangrove, lucioles. Nous y avons passés 2 nuits sans regret, et pas très loin de Kapas. Nous ne connaissons pas Bornéo
Je ne pense pas que KL mérite 4 nuits.
- 20 au 22/07 : Malacca (trois nuits c'est trop ??)
2 nuits peuvent suffire, le centre historique est assez petit
et il nous reste qq jours à caser et on se demandait si un petit break dans les camerons highlands valait le coup peut être avant Malacca ? Mais les témoiganges de visites ultra organisées me font un peu peur... ou plus longtemps à Bornéo ?
On a bien aimé les Cameron Highlands, surtout les plantations de thé et la Mossy Forest. Le reste ne vaut pas forcement le détour, surtout pas les plantations de fraises qui ne font que défigurer le paysage. On y a passer 2 demies journées/1 nuit et ça nous a suffit. Je vous conseille Georgetown/Penang, que nous avons presque préféré à Malacca. Pour les enfants, Cherating peut valoir le coup : ponte de tortues, ballade en bateau sur la mangrove, lucioles. Nous y avons passés 2 nuits sans regret, et pas très loin de Kapas. Nous ne connaissons pas Bornéo
Merci beaucoup ! en fait j'avais compté 4 nuits car on arrive le premier soir mais peut-être que trois nuits suffiraient.Pour Georgetown, vous y étiez allé en avion ou en bus ? et plutôt en dormant à Penang ?
Cherating : j'hésitais mais votre mail me fait pencher la balance pour une ou deux nuits là bas.
Pour Georgetown, vous y étiez allé en avion ou en bus ? et plutôt en dormant à Penang ?
Nous avions loué une voiture pour 15 jours pour faire le tour de la Malaisie continentale. Georgetown est la ville principale de l'ile de Penang. Il y a une autoroute qui relie Georgetown à KL en 4h environ
Cherating : j'hésitais mais votre mail me fait pencher la balance pour une ou deux nuits là bas.
C'était vraiment sympa pour les enfants. Je vous recommande l'hotel Tanjung Inn, situé en bord de mer, en face du depart des excursions des lucioles et ballades mangrove (Hafiz). Et qui peut organiser pour vous la sortie ponte des tortues. Nous avions un bungalow avec 1 chambre parents et 1 chambre enfants
Nous avions loué une voiture pour 15 jours pour faire le tour de la Malaisie continentale. Georgetown est la ville principale de l'ile de Penang. Il y a une autoroute qui relie Georgetown à KL en 4h environ
Cherating : j'hésitais mais votre mail me fait pencher la balance pour une ou deux nuits là bas.
C'était vraiment sympa pour les enfants. Je vous recommande l'hotel Tanjung Inn, situé en bord de mer, en face du depart des excursions des lucioles et ballades mangrove (Hafiz). Et qui peut organiser pour vous la sortie ponte des tortues. Nous avions un bungalow avec 1 chambre parents et 1 chambre enfants
Bonjour,
Nous étions restés 3 nuits à Georgetown. Nous avions dormi dans une ancienne maison chinoise, bien situé sur Armenian Street, et décoré avec beaucoup de gout : http://www.straitscollection.com.my/Armenian-91.htm
Nous avions une maison (la 91 donc), sur 2 étages, avec 2 chambres séparées, moustiquaires, une salle de bain qui donne sur l'exterieur, un petit coin cuisine, c'était vraiment très sympa.
Les autres, situées juste à coté avaient l'air pas mal aussi.
Si vous allés à Georgetown, je pourrais vous donner quelques conseils, avec notamment un formidable resto chinois de Dim Sum pour y prendre un petit déjeuner original.
Bonjour,
Je commence également à préparer mon itinéraire en malaisie pour le mois prochain... et nous voudrions visiter le parc de Bako. Nous avons 2 enfants de 4 ans et 2.5 ans, et je voulais savoir si les randonnées les plus simples ou les plus courtes étaient intéressantes et possibles avec eux? Est-ce que dormir dans le parc est envisageable ou non avec 2 petits enfants?
Merci
Je commence également à préparer mon itinéraire en malaisie pour le mois prochain... et nous voudrions visiter le parc de Bako. Nous avons 2 enfants de 4 ans et 2.5 ans, et je voulais savoir si les randonnées les plus simples ou les plus courtes étaient intéressantes et possibles avec eux? Est-ce que dormir dans le parc est envisageable ou non avec 2 petits enfants?
Merci
bonjour,
voyage fait 5 semaines l'été 2014
les îles Perethian c'est le TOP (6 nuits) on a vraiment l'impression de nager dans un aquarium les enfants vont adorer....ambiance "friendly"
Kuala LUMPUR 6 jours: on a bien aimé se balader en monorail et métro (les tours PETRONAS on a trouvé que çà vaut pas trop le coup, on a plus apprécié les parcs et jardin).
A KL Il faut aimer les centres commerciaux (c'est notre cas et on a fait des achats notamment dernier cri tél portables) sinon c'est vrai qu'il y a pas grand chose à visiter,
on était au MERIDIEN à KL SENTRAL avec grande piscine jusqu'à 23h..et plein de restaurants indiens à côté (BRIEKFIELD = quartier indien)
quartier CHINOIS, et INDIEN à faire à pied .....des commerces, restaurants, des temples et beaucoup de monde....
Pour MALACCA on a fait la visite sur 1 jour aller retour en bus direct de KL....(gare routière),
très belle mosquée ancienne
on a trouvé sympa le trajet en BUS notamment le bus de ville qui relie la gare routière au centre ville (pas de touristes dans le bus par contre beaucoup "trop?" de touristes CHINOIS en ville)
Langkawi PATAI-CENANG pour la plage, et l'animation touristique le soir (beaucoup de monde l'été , notamment quelques Francophones pour taper la "discute" autour d'un verre)
KOTA KINABALU pour les SEA FOOD.....la visite des singes nasiques en fôret, et encore les centres commerciaux....(on a pris le petit train des ANGLAIS jusqu'à PAPAR, sympa mais trop cher et trop piège à touristes).
On est pas allé à PENANG, c'est vraiment notre gros regret...
bonjour ,
voyage realisé en 2014 avec 2 enfants de 2 et 4 ans. on a fait KL Melacca Singapour TIoman Cherrating Kapas
mes conseils :
KL a l'aller ca a été dur car les enfants n'ont pas reussi a prendre le decalge horaire sur coup ils dormaient de 2àh a minuit puis super forme jusqu'a 5h du mat puis parti pour leur nuit (on les a reveillé a 9h pour les caler mais il a fallut deux nuits !!! )
melacca j'avais reservé 4 nuits c'est beaucoup trop !!!! 2 nuits suffisent largement je vous recommande la guest house old town avec une chambre a 2 lits doubles c'etait vraiment impeccable (un tout petit peu excentré ( 5 bonnes minutes a pieds))
cherrating on a beaucoup aimé on y a passé 4 nuits ( 3 auraient suffit ) mais les petits ont beaucoup aimé cette plage a marées et ils se sont fait beaucoup de copains (pleins de francais ) on logeait au tanjung inn effectivement c'est super mais un peu cher mais tres agreable!!
kapas on a passé 4 nuits au KBC on aurait pu prolongé le sejour si nous n avions pas eu le vol retour !!!! rien a faire a par bronzage plongée kayak et apero mais c'etait vraiment sympa !!!
meme a 3 m du bord mon bébé de deux ans pouvait voir des poissons avec le petit hublot qu on avait acheté a decath!!!
voyage realisé en 2014 avec 2 enfants de 2 et 4 ans. on a fait KL Melacca Singapour TIoman Cherrating Kapas
mes conseils :
KL a l'aller ca a été dur car les enfants n'ont pas reussi a prendre le decalge horaire sur coup ils dormaient de 2àh a minuit puis super forme jusqu'a 5h du mat puis parti pour leur nuit (on les a reveillé a 9h pour les caler mais il a fallut deux nuits !!! )
melacca j'avais reservé 4 nuits c'est beaucoup trop !!!! 2 nuits suffisent largement je vous recommande la guest house old town avec une chambre a 2 lits doubles c'etait vraiment impeccable (un tout petit peu excentré ( 5 bonnes minutes a pieds))
cherrating on a beaucoup aimé on y a passé 4 nuits ( 3 auraient suffit ) mais les petits ont beaucoup aimé cette plage a marées et ils se sont fait beaucoup de copains (pleins de francais ) on logeait au tanjung inn effectivement c'est super mais un peu cher mais tres agreable!!
kapas on a passé 4 nuits au KBC on aurait pu prolongé le sejour si nous n avions pas eu le vol retour !!!! rien a faire a par bronzage plongée kayak et apero mais c'etait vraiment sympa !!!
meme a 3 m du bord mon bébé de deux ans pouvait voir des poissons avec le petit hublot qu on avait acheté a decath!!!
Merci pour toutes ces informations, qu avez penser de Tioman avec les enfants? J hésite toujours à faire une petite partie de Bornéo ... on aime vraiment le côté faune flore - a voir si c est faisable - et je pense que l on fera une île où deux. Pour le moment ce n est pas encore très precis, il y a pas mal de sites qui nous intéresse!
Tom an c était bien sympa aussi les enfants ont passé leurs journées dans l eau... il y a moyen de faire des petites balades dans la jungle.
Bonjour Galak75
Apres 3 sejours en Malaisie (peninsulaire et insulaire), nos coups de coeur a nous : Melacca, Georgetown, Borneo (autour de Kutching) et of course les Perhensians. Melacca (qui merite bien plus qu'1 jour) et Georgetown sont des lieux absoluments incontournables. Rien a voir avec le reste de la Malaisie car on s' y reconnecte avec le passe colonial du pays a chaque coin de rue. Certains coins de Georgetown n'ont fait penser a Cuba pour l'ambiance et les traces (parfois decaties) du passe. La culture des Baba nonyia (1 ers commercants chinois de l'epoque des detroits) y est encore tres presente. Leur cuisine est un must a tester !. Et leurs demeures d'epoque ouvertes a la visite, vraiment magnifiques.
Je trouve votre itineraire premier assez equilibre et varie, mais c'est vrai que moi aussi je rajouterais Georgetown qui est facile d'acces depuis KL.
Pour ce qui est de KL, je ne suis pas d'accord sur le fait qu'il n'y ait pas grand chose a y faire. Entre le Bird park, les Mosquees (possibilite plutot rare de visite pour des non-musulans), le musee de l'islam (qui est une pure merveille sur le plan de la richesse et de la variete artistique des oeuvres presentees et ce, en dehors de toute connotation religieuse), les quartier chinois et indien avec leurs temples respectifs, les marches (en priorite celui de KL central), les Petronas (au moins juste pour la photo vu d'en bas), les parcs et jardins... Il y a franchement de quoi bien occuper pour quelques jours.
Voila c'etait juste mon petit grain de sel. Bonne vacances a vous.
PS : Et je vous souhaite de voir plein d'orang-outangs a Borneo. Vous verrez, moments magiques...
Apres 3 sejours en Malaisie (peninsulaire et insulaire), nos coups de coeur a nous : Melacca, Georgetown, Borneo (autour de Kutching) et of course les Perhensians. Melacca (qui merite bien plus qu'1 jour) et Georgetown sont des lieux absoluments incontournables. Rien a voir avec le reste de la Malaisie car on s' y reconnecte avec le passe colonial du pays a chaque coin de rue. Certains coins de Georgetown n'ont fait penser a Cuba pour l'ambiance et les traces (parfois decaties) du passe. La culture des Baba nonyia (1 ers commercants chinois de l'epoque des detroits) y est encore tres presente. Leur cuisine est un must a tester !. Et leurs demeures d'epoque ouvertes a la visite, vraiment magnifiques.
Je trouve votre itineraire premier assez equilibre et varie, mais c'est vrai que moi aussi je rajouterais Georgetown qui est facile d'acces depuis KL.
Pour ce qui est de KL, je ne suis pas d'accord sur le fait qu'il n'y ait pas grand chose a y faire. Entre le Bird park, les Mosquees (possibilite plutot rare de visite pour des non-musulans), le musee de l'islam (qui est une pure merveille sur le plan de la richesse et de la variete artistique des oeuvres presentees et ce, en dehors de toute connotation religieuse), les quartier chinois et indien avec leurs temples respectifs, les marches (en priorite celui de KL central), les Petronas (au moins juste pour la photo vu d'en bas), les parcs et jardins... Il y a franchement de quoi bien occuper pour quelques jours.
Voila c'etait juste mon petit grain de sel. Bonne vacances a vous.
PS : Et je vous souhaite de voir plein d'orang-outangs a Borneo. Vous verrez, moments magiques...
" Veux tu vivre heureux ? Voyages avec 2 sacs. L'un pour donner, l'autre pour recevoir."
Johann Wolfang Von Goethe
Merci pour ces avis et ressentis : on a rajouté georgetown au programme ! Par contre tant pis on ira pas dans.les cameron. On préfère rester plus longtemps dans chaque coin. Bonne journée à tous !
Ps : je cherche un homestay chouette à borneo dans la région de kuching. Si.vous avez des idées suis preneuse.
Si.vous avez rencontré des guides sympas dans.vos differentes visites hésitez pas à partager
Nous etions au " Basaga holiday residence " a Kuching en aout dernier.
Et vraiment enchantes de l'endroit.
C'est une maison coloniale a l'ecart du centre mais avec navette gratuite tous les jours pour s'y rendre.
Cuisine au top, jardin tropical et grande chambre calme. Avec une piscine tres jolie et bien entretenue !
Tres bon souvenir.
Le restau est tellement populaire que beaucoup de locaux y viennent le soir sans etre clients de l'hotel.
Le guide attache a l'endroit est une perle.
Il propose tous les jours des tours dans tous les sites les plus populaires des environs a un prix tres interessant.
Son nom est Brandon.
Sinon il y a l'agence Borneo adventure, les pionniers a Kuching. Ils sont chers mais les prestations le valent et tous leurs guides sont tries sur le volet. Ce sont en general des locaux issus des tribus et leurs connaissances sont encyclopediques. Nous en avons eu 2 differents. Il etaient impressionnants de gentillesse et de professionnalisme. On recommande chaudement cette agence sauf pour le tour a Semmengoh qui est tres cher avec eux sans que cela soit justifie. (De memoire c'etait dans les 40 euros.) Avec Brandon du Basaga cela nous a coute 15 euros par personne. Et nous avons vu 11 orang-outangs dans la matinee dont un bebe !!!
Voila !
Sinon il y a l'agence Borneo adventure, les pionniers a Kuching. Ils sont chers mais les prestations le valent et tous leurs guides sont tries sur le volet. Ce sont en general des locaux issus des tribus et leurs connaissances sont encyclopediques. Nous en avons eu 2 differents. Il etaient impressionnants de gentillesse et de professionnalisme. On recommande chaudement cette agence sauf pour le tour a Semmengoh qui est tres cher avec eux sans que cela soit justifie. (De memoire c'etait dans les 40 euros.) Avec Brandon du Basaga cela nous a coute 15 euros par personne. Et nous avons vu 11 orang-outangs dans la matinee dont un bebe !!!
Voila !
" Veux tu vivre heureux ? Voyages avec 2 sacs. L'un pour donner, l'autre pour recevoir."
Johann Wolfang Von Goethe
Bonjour à tous,
Je suis votre discussion avec attention, car nous partons avec mon ami, pour 18 jours en août.
J'avais un peu peur des pluies de la côte ouest, mais à priori, ça n'a pas l'air de vous perturber.
Nous sommes deux sportifs mais aimant le farniente quand même.
Nous souhaitons profiter des lieux que nous visiterons, donc pas de Bornéo pour nous (cette année du moins 😉).
Voici une ébauche d'itinéraire d'après vos lectures: - nous atterrissons à KL un matin, donc rapide visite de la ville. - Visite de Malacca sur 2 jours (voyage en bus) - Puis Penang et Georgetown sur 3 jours environ (visite, plage et massages 🤪 ) Voyage en bus probablement pour profiter des paysages... ou vol si plus pratique? - Direction les Iles Perenthians (laquelle? aucune idée pour l'instant...si vous avez des conseils) pour 4 jours. Vol ou bus? - Ensuite trek de 2 jours dans le park Taman Negara - Retour sur KL pour 3 jours (y a t-il des plages sympas?)
Le saut de puce à Singapour et le passage à Cherating va être compliqué sauf si nous raccourcissons les jours plage...mais le repos c'est pas mal aussi!
Merci de vos avis précieux!
Voici une ébauche d'itinéraire d'après vos lectures: - nous atterrissons à KL un matin, donc rapide visite de la ville. - Visite de Malacca sur 2 jours (voyage en bus) - Puis Penang et Georgetown sur 3 jours environ (visite, plage et massages 🤪 ) Voyage en bus probablement pour profiter des paysages... ou vol si plus pratique? - Direction les Iles Perenthians (laquelle? aucune idée pour l'instant...si vous avez des conseils) pour 4 jours. Vol ou bus? - Ensuite trek de 2 jours dans le park Taman Negara - Retour sur KL pour 3 jours (y a t-il des plages sympas?)
Le saut de puce à Singapour et le passage à Cherating va être compliqué sauf si nous raccourcissons les jours plage...mais le repos c'est pas mal aussi!
Merci de vos avis précieux!
Pour les plages, KL et Penang/Georgetown, c'est pas l'ideal... Mais le charme (surtout à Georgetown est ailleurs...)
Mais vous pourrez vous rattraper aux Perhentians!
Pour la pluie, on s'en est pris de severes à Georgetown debut aout, mais ça seche vite.
Bon voyage
bonjour
oui KL on a adoré et surtout mon fils de 14 ans, les tours petronas, le bird parc, le quartier chinois; les temples, les galeries marchandes. On a visité juste avant de repartir et on était super content de retrouver la civilisation!! on est resté 4 jours. Sinon on repart en juillet pour Tioman 5 jours 12 j à Kuching, et les perhentians 7j, KL.
Je cherche aussi des bons plans pour aller dans une longhouse à Borneo, et visiter l ile de satang (pour les tortues) ainsi que les mangroves mais sans passer par une agence parce que c'est plus drôle et on y laisse pas un bras!
mon super bon plan pour les perhentians c est le camping rainforest sur kecil: des tentes surélévées sur des pilotis de bambous dans la jungle, au bord d'une magnifique plage de sable et très bon spot de snorkeling, sans parler de la cuisine qui est divine!! une nuit pour 13e. les ados adorent!! c'est pas si roots, y'a des matelas pneumatiques dans les tentes!!
On se croisera pt être!
Je cherche aussi des bons plans pour aller dans une longhouse à Borneo, et visiter l ile de satang (pour les tortues) ainsi que les mangroves mais sans passer par une agence parce que c'est plus drôle et on y laisse pas un bras!
mon super bon plan pour les perhentians c est le camping rainforest sur kecil: des tentes surélévées sur des pilotis de bambous dans la jungle, au bord d'une magnifique plage de sable et très bon spot de snorkeling, sans parler de la cuisine qui est divine!! une nuit pour 13e. les ados adorent!! c'est pas si roots, y'a des matelas pneumatiques dans les tentes!!
On se croisera pt être!
Bonjourll est possible de dormir à 4 dans les bungalows de Bako: 2 lits doubles douches eau froide
Le self est très pratique pour tous les repas.
Les ballades les plus proches ne sont pas très difficiles a condition de prendre beaucoup d' eau!
Rester sur place le soir est vraiment génial : à partir de 17h00 tous les singes sortent de la forêt et viennent traîner prés des bungalows , de plus les couchers de soleil sont magnifiques.
Le soir tu peux faire la balade de nuit vers 21 h 00 avec les petits ça peut le faire pour découvrir lucioles et les annimaux de la nuit.
Prevoir lampes frontales
Bonne péparation
Le monde est un livre, ceux qui ne voyagent pas n'en lisent qu' une page ( Saint Augustin )
Rebonsoir
Nous avons dormi au saloma's homestay prés de Kuching dans un petit village Bidayu dépaysement assuré!
Nous avons dormi au saloma's homestay prés de Kuching dans un petit village Bidayu dépaysement assuré!
Le monde est un livre, ceux qui ne voyagent pas n'en lisent qu' une page ( Saint Augustin )
Bonsoir
Pour loger sur l' île de Satang c' est vraiment compliqué!c' est une île privée Nous y avons passé une nuit avec ma femme et mes filles . Nous étions seuls avec notre guide et le ranger : un paradis sur terre! Nous n' avons malheureusement vu qu' une seule naissance mais le groupe de la veille a pu assister à 224 naissance et une ponte! Pour pouvoir approcher les propriétaire tu dois passer par une agence Nous avons trouvé une agence sur Kuching qui s' est également occupé de toutes les résérvation de notre séjour : c' est Bornéo à la carte; une agence francophone tenue par un charmant couple FrancoMalaisien. Bonne préparation
Bruno
Pour loger sur l' île de Satang c' est vraiment compliqué!c' est une île privée Nous y avons passé une nuit avec ma femme et mes filles . Nous étions seuls avec notre guide et le ranger : un paradis sur terre! Nous n' avons malheureusement vu qu' une seule naissance mais le groupe de la veille a pu assister à 224 naissance et une ponte! Pour pouvoir approcher les propriétaire tu dois passer par une agence Nous avons trouvé une agence sur Kuching qui s' est également occupé de toutes les résérvation de notre séjour : c' est Bornéo à la carte; une agence francophone tenue par un charmant couple FrancoMalaisien. Bonne préparation
Bruno
Le monde est un livre, ceux qui ne voyagent pas n'en lisent qu' une page ( Saint Augustin )
Bonsoir
Nous avons visité la mangrove à Bako On ne peux pas nager à Bako à cause des crocodiles encore moins snorkeler car l' eau est trouble. Par contre à Satang c'est tout à fait possible de nager , snorkeler en plus le ranger peut te prêter un kayak vraiment sympa cette île...( sans parler du BBQ!) N aies pas peur pour les questions on est là pour partager nos expériences. Bruno
Nous avons visité la mangrove à Bako On ne peux pas nager à Bako à cause des crocodiles encore moins snorkeler car l' eau est trouble. Par contre à Satang c'est tout à fait possible de nager , snorkeler en plus le ranger peut te prêter un kayak vraiment sympa cette île...( sans parler du BBQ!) N aies pas peur pour les questions on est là pour partager nos expériences. Bruno
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Bonjour, je ne sais pas si vous avez eu vos renseignements sur Bornéo, j'ai fait Bornée il y a 3 ans et j'ai adoré, mais je trouve que le parc de BAKO avec des enfants aussi petits risque d'être difficile. Le petit ne pourra pas marcher et vous allez devoir le porter sachant que l'on transpire énormément et qu'il ne faut pas oublier les bouteilles d'eau. A peine 15mn de marche et les vêtements sont trempés de transpiration. Ma fille avait 12 ans et l'habitude de la montagne mais là c'est différent. La chaleur fatigue vite. De plus il y a des petites bestioles partout et il faut faire très attention où l'on met les mains !! C'est un avis personnel bien sur, c'est très beau mais pas avec des enfants trop jeunes, aussi bien pour eux que pour vous.
Par contre Bornée est magnifique. Vous pouvez faire un petit treck de deux jours, loger chez l'habitant, voir les orang outant. Vous baigner dans les cascades...Une adresse de treck : Bornée à la carte (petite agence Française). Bon voyage
Bonjour Padampam,
Nous sommes intéressés par tes conseils sur votre trip d'1 an en Malaisie car nous restons également 5 semaines en Malaise cet été, avec 2 ados (13 et 15 ans).
Nous sommes en pleine réflexion sur notre itinéraire car, même si 5 semaines, c'est long..., nous sommes déjà obligés de faire des choix.
Nous souhaitons trouver un itinéraire de voyage cohérent (pour les transports) car nous utiliserons beaucoup le bus, ne souhaitons pas trop speeder (retours d'expériences d'autres voyages), et souhaitons, dans la mesure du possible, éviter les "doublons", c'est-à-dire choisir par exemple le meilleur parc de toute la Malaisie (péninsule / Bornéo), pour telle ou telle activité/attraction. Idem pour les plages.
A ce jour, voici un premier jet d'itinéraire : KL (2 jours dont jour d'arrivée) Malacca (2 jrs) Retour (obligé ?) sur KL (1 j) Ipoh ? Cameron Higlands (3 jrs) Retour sur KL pour partir sur Bornéo par un vol de KL à Kuching Itinéraire à construire de 13-14 jours (?) sur Bornéo à parcourir du sud ouest au nord, de Kuching à Sipadan Quel centre de réhabilitation pour orangs-outans ? Quels parcs ? (A priori : impasse sur l'ascension du Mont Kinabalu). Vol retour pour la péninsule de Kinabalu à Kota Bharu (Kota Bharu = 1 j) Iles Perhentian (5 jrs) Ile de Kapas (2 jrs) Cherating (1 j) Lac Chini ou parc endau ? (1 j ?) Finir le trip par une belle plage sur l'île de Tioman (3 jrs)
Nous ferions donc l'impasse sur : - le Mont Kinabalu à Bornéo - Georgetown/Penang (choix portés sur Malacca/d'autres îles pour question de temps, temps au sens de durée, mais aussi de climat qui semble plus clément à l'est pour les îles en août) - le Taman Negara, pensant qu'un ou plusieurs parcs à Bornéo, c'est mieux (?)
Que penses-tu de notre projet ? Perhantian + Kapas + Tioman : pas trop ? Comment avez-vous circuler en péninsule et à Bornéo ?
Merci d'avance de ton retour sur notre projet mais aussi de tous tes conseils/remarques que tu jugeras utiles pour notre trip...
Titine et Fab
A ce jour, voici un premier jet d'itinéraire : KL (2 jours dont jour d'arrivée) Malacca (2 jrs) Retour (obligé ?) sur KL (1 j) Ipoh ? Cameron Higlands (3 jrs) Retour sur KL pour partir sur Bornéo par un vol de KL à Kuching Itinéraire à construire de 13-14 jours (?) sur Bornéo à parcourir du sud ouest au nord, de Kuching à Sipadan Quel centre de réhabilitation pour orangs-outans ? Quels parcs ? (A priori : impasse sur l'ascension du Mont Kinabalu). Vol retour pour la péninsule de Kinabalu à Kota Bharu (Kota Bharu = 1 j) Iles Perhentian (5 jrs) Ile de Kapas (2 jrs) Cherating (1 j) Lac Chini ou parc endau ? (1 j ?) Finir le trip par une belle plage sur l'île de Tioman (3 jrs)
Nous ferions donc l'impasse sur : - le Mont Kinabalu à Bornéo - Georgetown/Penang (choix portés sur Malacca/d'autres îles pour question de temps, temps au sens de durée, mais aussi de climat qui semble plus clément à l'est pour les îles en août) - le Taman Negara, pensant qu'un ou plusieurs parcs à Bornéo, c'est mieux (?)
Que penses-tu de notre projet ? Perhantian + Kapas + Tioman : pas trop ? Comment avez-vous circuler en péninsule et à Bornéo ?
Merci d'avance de ton retour sur notre projet mais aussi de tous tes conseils/remarques que tu jugeras utiles pour notre trip...
Titine et Fab
Bonjour
Pour Borneo je conseille d rester un moment autour de kuching . On a adoré la ville, le parc d Bako 4 jours c est top pour bien en profiter le parc d Gunung Gading et les orangs oytang. Il y a aussi le village traditionnel qui est génial d et la côte splendide. Au alentours de kuching il y a énormément a voir! Mais il faut q les ados aiment la marche qd mm. Mon fils 13 ans s est éclaté ds la forêt!! Même si c est vraiment dur pr la chaleur l humidité les pierres qui glissent ect... Mais c est magnifique !!
Sinon si vous allez à sipadan oui ça fait doublons avec Tioman Perhentians .... Le snorkeling est top sur sipadan. Les prix eux st différents.
Pensez aux trajets avions pr rejoindre kuching à sipadan.... En faisant d altes bien sur! Mais sinon c est long et ça risque d être éprouvant !
Attention les îles sur la Malaisie continental sont peu chères un style baba-cool par contre sipadan et ce secteur c est très chers!! Ça dépend de votre budget. C est possible de voyager sur Borneo en indépendant sans prendre de tours mais plus compliqué que sur le continent et plus chers aussi!
Waaa sinon 5 semaines c est génial!! Et Kuala Lumpur reserve d excellentes surprises pr les jeunes !! On a adoré ! Et quel contraste avec la vie de Robinson sur les îles et ds la jungle!!
Bon voyage!
Bon voyage!
bonjour,
et oui même avec un voyage de 5 semaines il faut faire des arbitrages !!!!!
Mon avis sur ton projet:
L'intention de ne pas vouloir trop en faire "ne pas speeder" et aussi éviter les doublons je suis d'accord.
Les îles PERETHIANS pour moi çà a été le TOP de mon voyage en MALAISIE: donc 5 jours mini c'est bien, peut être prévoir plus si vous aimez vraiment la mer les poissons la plage, les déplacements en "long tail" et le calme (pas de voitures sur l'île): attention il faut réserver l'hôtel à l'avance l'été.
KUALA LUMPUR nous avons bien aimé notamment les centres commerciaux (pour le higt tech: on a acheté un Iphone et un Ipad 20% moins cher qu'en FRANCE) le quartier chinois et indien les parcs donc 2 jours c'est peut-être un peu court sauf si vous n'aimez pas la ville.
BORNEO je connais KOTA KINABALU et PAPAR : excursion pour visiter le parc avec les singes "nasiques" (ceux de tintin) très sympa, par contre l'excursion en train vapeur ANGLAIS de KK à PAPAR trop cher et piège à touriste.
pour le mont kota- kinabalu je n'ai pas trouvé d'agence sur place compatible avec mes délais de séjour (il faut réserver plusieurs semaines à l'avance) donc j'ai pas pu le faire.
Les trajets en bus très bien (avec l'inconvénient de la clim à fond).
Peut être se poser la question pour LANGKAWI (PATAI CENANG) grande plage très touristique beaucoup d'animations et de monde bars restaurants etc (scooter des mers etc) pour les ados mais faut aimer sortir le soir.
pour le reste de ton voyage je connais pas
PS: je conseille de commander des anti-moustiques spéciaux pour zones tropicales (il y a un risque de DENGUE même à KL)
Amachou,
Merci pour ton retour et ta réactivité.
Quelques ? supplémentaires STP...
Avez-vous visité un centre de réhabilitation pour les orangs-outans ?
Pour aller à Bornéo, avez-vous fait un vol A/R KL - Kota Kinabalu ?
Faut-il réserver de France les vols internes ? ou plus intéressants de Malaisie ?
Faut-il réserver à l'avance tous les hébergements ? ou seulement ceux très touristiques (Perhantian par ex) ?
Merci encore,
Titine et Fab
Kilali88,
Merci aussi pour ton retour si rapide.
A Bornéo, tu as fait Kuching et ses environs.
Es-tu parti dans la région de Sabah aussi ?
Si tu as aussi des réponses sur mes ? supplémentaires STP... : Faut-il réserver de France les vols internes ? ou plus intéressants de Malaisie ? Faut-il réserver à l'avance tous les hébergements ? ou seulement ceux très touristiques (Perhantian par ex) ?
On va se renseigner un peu plus pour Sipadan, quitte à supprimer la halte à Kapas ou à Tioman ??? On nous conseille aussi Pulau Langkawi, qu'on avait éliminé de prime abord mais qui vaut peut-être le détour.
On pensait que 5 semaines, c'était top, mais c'est presque trop court pour faire la partie orientale et la parie occidentale...
Merci encore, Titine et Fab
Si tu as aussi des réponses sur mes ? supplémentaires STP... : Faut-il réserver de France les vols internes ? ou plus intéressants de Malaisie ? Faut-il réserver à l'avance tous les hébergements ? ou seulement ceux très touristiques (Perhantian par ex) ?
On va se renseigner un peu plus pour Sipadan, quitte à supprimer la halte à Kapas ou à Tioman ??? On nous conseille aussi Pulau Langkawi, qu'on avait éliminé de prime abord mais qui vaut peut-être le détour.
On pensait que 5 semaines, c'était top, mais c'est presque trop court pour faire la partie orientale et la parie occidentale...
Merci encore, Titine et Fab
Alors oui je pense que 13 jours c est top pour faire Kuching et les environs. Prenez une voiture d loc certains jours ! Ça vaut le coup!
Bako est un incontournable. 4jrs mini
Le Sarawak village vaut le coup je dirais 2 à 3 jrs les plages st superbes aller ds l hôtel 4etoiles la journée pr l plages les équipements c est top. Et le food court de la plage vaut le détour !! Pas de touristes!
le parc Semmenggoh1jrs à coupler avec une autre visite
la réserve pour voir d animaux parc national juste à côté d kuching aussi. Les cascades sont très bien...
Vous pouvez dormir ds un village traditionnel bidayu ou autres! Rechercher bien avant. Certains st chers!
Il y a plus de 10 parcs nationaux aux alentours de kuching !!
Oui choisissez soit Tioman soit Sipadan. Et 3 jours ce n est pas assez!! Comptez mini 4 jrs . C est loin pr Tioman 2 h d bateau mini et Sipadan aussi très loin et coûteux en déplacement.
En tout cas sur les îles Perhentians Tioman ne ratez pas tous les tours sur les îlots d à côté ! X est une merveille, les îlots plages st splendide les fonds exceptionnel !!! Juste avec un masque et tuba c est énorme tt ce q on voit! . .. On a pas trop aimé les Kapas ! Y avait plein de minis méduses!!! On les voit pas mais elles piquent mmm!! Ça démange beaucoup ! Mais pas d boutons. Pour Kapas C est affaire de goût bien sur! Les îles st tellement belles q voilà....
Oui réserver sur Tioman sur Perhentians pour Bako aussi. Il faut vraiment y penser pasque c est over booké ( enfin très peu de place pr dormir à Bako et 4 jours ce n est pas de trop .... Si vous aimez les bébêtes et les plantes bizarre. D pêcheurs peuvent vous débarquer à différents endroits d la péninsule et vs avez juste l trekk retour ce qui est déjà bien 😉 4h d marche en suant glissant escaladant....Rien q le tour en bateau vaut le détour c est magnifique). Réserver maintenant vos billets intérieur. Les prix peuvent grimper très vite ! Voilà .... Bon voyage !
Oui réserver sur Tioman sur Perhentians pour Bako aussi. Il faut vraiment y penser pasque c est over booké ( enfin très peu de place pr dormir à Bako et 4 jours ce n est pas de trop .... Si vous aimez les bébêtes et les plantes bizarre. D pêcheurs peuvent vous débarquer à différents endroits d la péninsule et vs avez juste l trekk retour ce qui est déjà bien 😉 4h d marche en suant glissant escaladant....Rien q le tour en bateau vaut le détour c est magnifique). Réserver maintenant vos billets intérieur. Les prix peuvent grimper très vite ! Voilà .... Bon voyage !
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Bonjour à tous,
Nous partons prochainement pour deux semaines en Colombie en famille avec nos deux garçons de 10 ans. Je suis un peu en retard dans l'organisation de notre itinéraire et j'aurais besoin de vos conseils !
Nous arrivons à Carthagène, où nous passerons 3 nuits.
Nous irons ensuite dans la région de Tayrona pour 3 nuits. Auriez-vous un hôtel sympa avec piscine, idéalement adapté à une famille, à nous recommander ? Malheureusement, Senda Watapuy et Senda Koguiwa sont déjà complets pour nos dates.
Nous pensions ensuite passer quelques jours à Minca. Est-ce une bonne idée fin juillet / début août ? Combien de nuits conseillez-vous ?
Enfin, nous cherchons une dernière étape avant de rentrer en France. On nous a parlé de Mompox, mais nous hésitons car cela semble faire un détour important. Nous aimons la nature, les animaux, les beaux paysages, les plages et les lieux authentiques. Pensez-vous que Mompox vaut le détour avec deux enfants, ou nous conseilleriez-vous plutôt une autre destination (Palomino, Barú, La Guajira...) ?
Nous ne souhaitons pas prendre de vol intérieur.
Merci d'avance pour tous vos conseils et retours d'expérience !
Hi everyone,
I’ve read the forum a lot and found a wealth of information. I’ve tried to compile all of it into our itinerary and would love your feedback to finalize the bookings (we’re planning this *very* last-minute).
Here’s what we’re thinking of doing: 22 July: arrival in Johannesburg Night of 22–23: Johannesburg Nights of 23–26: Marloth Park (with Kruger visits on the 24th, 25th, and a crossing visit on the 26th) Nights of 26–28: Graskop (visiting the canyon and Panorama Road on the 27th and 28th) Nights of 28–30: Hoedspruit (visiting the central area of Kruger on the 29th?) Nights of 30 July–1 August: Balule Park (private reserve with safari) Nights of 1–5 August: flight from Hoedspruit to Cape Town, then 2 days in Cape Town, 1 day on the peninsula, and 2 days for wine (just the route) or something else based on your advice (we don’t know where to stay—whether to stay all 5 nights in Cape Town and where in the city, or do 2 nights in Cape Town and 3 nights nearby—but where?) Night of 5–6 August: Kelders for penguins and whales Nights of 6–8 August: Tsitsikamma (what is there to do/see?) Nights of 8–10 August: Addo Park on the 9th 10 August: flight from Port Elizabeth to Johannesburg and back home
What do you think? Is there a lot of driving time?
We’d really appreciate your comments and suggestions. Thanks!
Nadia
I’ve read the forum a lot and found a wealth of information. I’ve tried to compile all of it into our itinerary and would love your feedback to finalize the bookings (we’re planning this *very* last-minute).
Here’s what we’re thinking of doing: 22 July: arrival in Johannesburg Night of 22–23: Johannesburg Nights of 23–26: Marloth Park (with Kruger visits on the 24th, 25th, and a crossing visit on the 26th) Nights of 26–28: Graskop (visiting the canyon and Panorama Road on the 27th and 28th) Nights of 28–30: Hoedspruit (visiting the central area of Kruger on the 29th?) Nights of 30 July–1 August: Balule Park (private reserve with safari) Nights of 1–5 August: flight from Hoedspruit to Cape Town, then 2 days in Cape Town, 1 day on the peninsula, and 2 days for wine (just the route) or something else based on your advice (we don’t know where to stay—whether to stay all 5 nights in Cape Town and where in the city, or do 2 nights in Cape Town and 3 nights nearby—but where?) Night of 5–6 August: Kelders for penguins and whales Nights of 6–8 August: Tsitsikamma (what is there to do/see?) Nights of 8–10 August: Addo Park on the 9th 10 August: flight from Port Elizabeth to Johannesburg and back home
What do you think? Is there a lot of driving time?
We’d really appreciate your comments and suggestions. Thanks!
Nadia
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We initially planned to visit Bali, Komodo, and Flores, but after looking into it more, we came across Sumatra, which is less touristy... a real plus for us. However, skipping Bali might be a shame.
I was wondering if spending 12 days in Sumatra and finishing with about 7 days in Bali is a doable plan.
Thanks for your feedback!
We initially planned to visit Bali, Komodo, and Flores, but after looking into it more, we came across Sumatra, which is less touristy... a real plus for us. However, skipping Bali might be a shame.
I was wondering if spending 12 days in Sumatra and finishing with about 7 days in Bali is a doable plan.
Thanks for your feedback!
5 days in Armenia with an 8-month-old baby
Hi everyone,
I wanted to share our experience after a 5-day trip to Armenia with my wife and our 8-month-old baby.
It’s a destination that’s still relatively unknown, but it’s really worth the trip, especially if you enjoy cultural, spiritual, historical, and human-centered travel.
We were looking for a change of scenery but not too complicated with a baby—and easy to organize (even though our travel agency helped us a lot, thanks to them! 😊). In the end, Armenia was a wonderful surprise. It’s not a "postcard-perfect" destination. It’s a raw, mountainous, ancient country with real depth.
And most importantly: Armenians *love* children.
That’s probably what surprised us the most. In restaurants, waitresses, owners, or even other customers would naturally come over to play with our baby, hold them for a few minutes, smile at them, or keep them entertained while we ate. It wasn’t intrusive. It was very natural, very family-oriented. You can tell that children have a real place in society. For parents traveling with a baby, it’s honestly a pleasure.
Day 1 — Yerevan
We started with Yerevan, a pleasant capital that’s quite easy to explore with a child.
The city isn’t huge. You can stroll around Republic Square, visit cafés, discover markets, and walk at a relaxed pace.
With a baby, it’s pretty practical: you can easily take breaks, return to the hotel, or go back out in the evening. The vibe is laid-back, family-friendly, and we felt safe.
In the evening, Yerevan is very lively. The restaurants are welcoming, and almost everywhere, our baby drew smiles.
Day 2 — Etchmiadzin and Khor Virap
On the second day, we headed to Etchmiadzin, the spiritual heart of Armenia. It’s an important place for understanding the country and its Christian identity.
Then, we visited Khor Virap, facing Mount Ararat.
It’s probably one of the most striking places on the trip. The monastery, the plain, the distant Ararat—everything is visually and symbolically powerful.
With a baby, you just need to plan a relaxed pace, avoid rushing, and take your time.
Day 3 — Garni and Geghard
The third day was one of our favorites.
We visited the Temple of Garni, very different from the monasteries, with a stunning setting in the mountains.
Then we went to Geghard, a monastery partially carved into the rock.
The atmosphere is incredible. It’s quiet, mineral, almost timeless. Even if you’re not very religious, you feel something.
With a child, the visit goes well, but again, it’s best not to overload the day. The key is to keep a flexible pace.
Day 4 — Noravank
On the fourth day, we headed to Noravank.
The road itself is an experience: dry landscapes, mountains, red rocks, valleys. The monastery is surrounded by impressive cliffs.
It’s one of the most beautiful sites we saw in Armenia.
You really get the sense that Armenian monasteries were built in impossible places—between sky, stone, and mountain.
Along the way, you can also pass through the Areni region, known for its wine. With a baby, we mostly prioritized simple breaks, relaxed meals, and uncompressed travel times.
Day 5 — Lake Sevan and return to Yerevan
For the last day, we went to Lake Sevan.
The lake is vast, bright, and surrounded by mountains. The Sevanavank Monastery, up high, offers a beautiful view.
It’s a gentler stop, perfect for ending the trip.
Then we returned to Yerevan for a final dinner. Once again, the welcome in restaurants stood out. In Armenia, traveling with a baby isn’t seen as a hassle. On the contrary, people spontaneously come up to the child.
Our overall impression
In 5 days, you obviously don’t see all of Armenia. To reach Tatev, Dilijan, Haghpat, or Sanahin, you’d need more like 7 to 10 days.
But for a first visit, 5 days are enough to feel the essence: Yerevan, the major monasteries, Mount Ararat, the landscapes, the Christian history, and the Armenian hospitality.
What we loved most:
- the kindness of people toward our baby; - the very family-friendly atmosphere; - the monasteries in incredible landscapes; - the view of Mount Ararat from Khor Virap; - the atmosphere of Geghard; - the cliffs of Noravank; - the food; - the feeling of safety; - the fact that the country is still relatively untouched by mass tourism.
What to know when traveling with a baby:
- distances can be longer than expected; - some roads are mountainous; - avoid overloading the day; - it’s better to have a driver or a car; - plan for breaks, water, diapers, baby meals; - a stroller isn’t always practical on ancient sites; - a baby carrier can be very useful.
Recommended 5-day itinerary
For a first trip, I’d suggest:
Day 1: Yerevan Day 2: Etchmiadzin + Khor Virap Day 3: Garni + Geghard Day 4: Noravank + Areni Day 5: Sevan + return to Yerevan
It’s balanced, not too tiring, and gives a great first impression of the country.
Conclusion
Armenia is a wonderful destination with a baby, as long as you travel slowly and don’t try to see everything.
What touched us most, beyond the landscapes and monasteries, was the attitude toward children. There, you feel that babies are welcomed with real tenderness. In restaurants, people naturally helped us, played with our child, and gave us a few minutes to breathe.
That’s rare, and it makes a big difference in the travel experience.
Armenia isn’t a destination you consume quickly. It’s a country that you *feel*.
For those who love cultural, spiritual, historical, family, and human-centered travel, I highly recommend it.
Hi everyone,
I wanted to share our experience after a 5-day trip to Armenia with my wife and our 8-month-old baby.
It’s a destination that’s still relatively unknown, but it’s really worth the trip, especially if you enjoy cultural, spiritual, historical, and human-centered travel.
We were looking for a change of scenery but not too complicated with a baby—and easy to organize (even though our travel agency helped us a lot, thanks to them! 😊). In the end, Armenia was a wonderful surprise. It’s not a "postcard-perfect" destination. It’s a raw, mountainous, ancient country with real depth.
And most importantly: Armenians *love* children.
That’s probably what surprised us the most. In restaurants, waitresses, owners, or even other customers would naturally come over to play with our baby, hold them for a few minutes, smile at them, or keep them entertained while we ate. It wasn’t intrusive. It was very natural, very family-oriented. You can tell that children have a real place in society. For parents traveling with a baby, it’s honestly a pleasure.
Day 1 — Yerevan
We started with Yerevan, a pleasant capital that’s quite easy to explore with a child.
The city isn’t huge. You can stroll around Republic Square, visit cafés, discover markets, and walk at a relaxed pace.
With a baby, it’s pretty practical: you can easily take breaks, return to the hotel, or go back out in the evening. The vibe is laid-back, family-friendly, and we felt safe.
In the evening, Yerevan is very lively. The restaurants are welcoming, and almost everywhere, our baby drew smiles.
Day 2 — Etchmiadzin and Khor Virap
On the second day, we headed to Etchmiadzin, the spiritual heart of Armenia. It’s an important place for understanding the country and its Christian identity.
Then, we visited Khor Virap, facing Mount Ararat.
It’s probably one of the most striking places on the trip. The monastery, the plain, the distant Ararat—everything is visually and symbolically powerful.
With a baby, you just need to plan a relaxed pace, avoid rushing, and take your time.
Day 3 — Garni and Geghard
The third day was one of our favorites.
We visited the Temple of Garni, very different from the monasteries, with a stunning setting in the mountains.
Then we went to Geghard, a monastery partially carved into the rock.
The atmosphere is incredible. It’s quiet, mineral, almost timeless. Even if you’re not very religious, you feel something.
With a child, the visit goes well, but again, it’s best not to overload the day. The key is to keep a flexible pace.
Day 4 — Noravank
On the fourth day, we headed to Noravank.
The road itself is an experience: dry landscapes, mountains, red rocks, valleys. The monastery is surrounded by impressive cliffs.
It’s one of the most beautiful sites we saw in Armenia.
You really get the sense that Armenian monasteries were built in impossible places—between sky, stone, and mountain.
Along the way, you can also pass through the Areni region, known for its wine. With a baby, we mostly prioritized simple breaks, relaxed meals, and uncompressed travel times.
Day 5 — Lake Sevan and return to Yerevan
For the last day, we went to Lake Sevan.
The lake is vast, bright, and surrounded by mountains. The Sevanavank Monastery, up high, offers a beautiful view.
It’s a gentler stop, perfect for ending the trip.
Then we returned to Yerevan for a final dinner. Once again, the welcome in restaurants stood out. In Armenia, traveling with a baby isn’t seen as a hassle. On the contrary, people spontaneously come up to the child.
Our overall impression
In 5 days, you obviously don’t see all of Armenia. To reach Tatev, Dilijan, Haghpat, or Sanahin, you’d need more like 7 to 10 days.
But for a first visit, 5 days are enough to feel the essence: Yerevan, the major monasteries, Mount Ararat, the landscapes, the Christian history, and the Armenian hospitality.
What we loved most:
- the kindness of people toward our baby; - the very family-friendly atmosphere; - the monasteries in incredible landscapes; - the view of Mount Ararat from Khor Virap; - the atmosphere of Geghard; - the cliffs of Noravank; - the food; - the feeling of safety; - the fact that the country is still relatively untouched by mass tourism.
What to know when traveling with a baby:
- distances can be longer than expected; - some roads are mountainous; - avoid overloading the day; - it’s better to have a driver or a car; - plan for breaks, water, diapers, baby meals; - a stroller isn’t always practical on ancient sites; - a baby carrier can be very useful.
Recommended 5-day itinerary
For a first trip, I’d suggest:
Day 1: Yerevan Day 2: Etchmiadzin + Khor Virap Day 3: Garni + Geghard Day 4: Noravank + Areni Day 5: Sevan + return to Yerevan
It’s balanced, not too tiring, and gives a great first impression of the country.
Conclusion
Armenia is a wonderful destination with a baby, as long as you travel slowly and don’t try to see everything.
What touched us most, beyond the landscapes and monasteries, was the attitude toward children. There, you feel that babies are welcomed with real tenderness. In restaurants, people naturally helped us, played with our child, and gave us a few minutes to breathe.
That’s rare, and it makes a big difference in the travel experience.
Armenia isn’t a destination you consume quickly. It’s a country that you *feel*.
For those who love cultural, spiritual, historical, family, and human-centered travel, I highly recommend it.
Hi,
I’m traveling with my 5-year-old son this summer to Northern Thailand, Northern Vietnam, Yunnan, and Indonesia. I plan to equip him with a GPS tracker, but the SIM cards come with a contract. Do you know what the options are in Asia?
Thanks,
Nora
Hi there,
This summer, we’ve decided to do a 3-week road trip starting from Nice and heading down to Ksamil in Albania.
We’re leaving from Nice, and our route is already pretty much set: Nice - Verona (Italy) - Rijeka (Croatia) - Zadar - Split - Budva (Montenegro) - Shkodër (Albania) - Ksamil, then back through Italy via Bari.
The itinerary is packed! 🙂
Do you have any suggestions for things to see—visits, beaches, viewpoints, villages, or excursions—to make the most of our journey?
Thanks everyone!
This summer, we’ve decided to do a 3-week road trip starting from Nice and heading down to Ksamil in Albania.
We’re leaving from Nice, and our route is already pretty much set: Nice - Verona (Italy) - Rijeka (Croatia) - Zadar - Split - Budva (Montenegro) - Shkodër (Albania) - Ksamil, then back through Italy via Bari.
The itinerary is packed! 🙂
Do you have any suggestions for things to see—visits, beaches, viewpoints, villages, or excursions—to make the most of our journey?
Thanks everyone!
Hi there,
We’d like to spend 2 days in Lyon in May with our 8- and 12-year-old kids, exploring the city on foot.
We’ll arrive on day 1 around 11 AM and leave on day 2 around 6 PM.
I’ve mapped out two routes and was wondering if they’re doable in our 2 days, and if you have any tips or info on visit prices.
We’re not sure where to stay yet, but we’d like to optimize by booking accommodation (hotel or Airbnb) between the two routes, maybe?
Thanks for your help!
I’ve mapped out two routes and was wondering if they’re doable in our 2 days, and if you have any tips or info on visit prices.
We’re not sure where to stay yet, but we’d like to optimize by booking accommodation (hotel or Airbnb) between the two routes, maybe?
Thanks for your help!
Hi there!
I’m planning a trip with my wife and our three kids (ages 9, 6, and 3) from April 16 to May 6.
I’ve started sketching out the itinerary, trying to alternate between visits, hikes, safaris, and downtime. I want to keep the pace relaxed given the kids’ ages.
Could you let me know what you think of this route? I removed Nuwara Eliya, which I had originally planned before Ella, to cut down on stops. I was also wondering if I should break up the Arugam Bay to Colombo leg with an overnight in Galle, since it’s a long drive.
Thanks in advance for your feedback!
Day 1 – 04/16: Wilpattu Arrival at the airport (08:00) + transfer to Wilpattu (180 km, 4–5 h) + afternoon safari Overnight: Wilpattu Day 2 – 04/17: Wilpattu Morning & afternoon safari Overnight: Wilpattu Day 3 – 04/18: Trincomalee Transfer Wilpattu → Trincomalee (200 km, 4–5 h) + beach relaxation Overnight: Trincomalee Day 4 – 04/19: Trincomalee Nilaveli Beach Overnight: Trincomalee Day 5 – 04/20: Trincomalee Pigeon Island snorkeling Overnight: Trincomalee Day 6 – 04/21: Trincomalee Fort Frederick & relaxation Overnight: Trincomalee Day 7 – 04/22: Sigiriya Transfer Trincomalee → Sigiriya (120 km, ~3 h) + visit to Dambulla Overnight: Sigiriya Day 8 – 04/23: Sigiriya Sigiriya Rock Overnight: Sigiriya Day 9 – 04/24: Sigiriya Minneriya safari Overnight: Sigiriya Day 10 – 04/25: Sigiriya Polonnaruwa & village tour Overnight: Sigiriya Day 11 – 04/26: Ella Transfer Sigiriya → Ella (230 km, 5–6 h) + rest Overnight: Ella Day 12 – 04/27: Ella Little Adam’s Peak & Nine Arches Bridge Overnight: Ella Day 13 – 04/28: Ella Ella Rock Overnight: Ella Day 14 – 04/29: Ella Tea Factory & relaxation Overnight: Ella Day 15 – 04/30: Yala Transfer Ella → Yala (110 km, 2–3 h) + afternoon safari Overnight: Yala Day 16 – 05/01: Arugam Bay Transfer Yala → Arugam Bay (80 km, 2.5–3 h) + beach time Overnight: Arugam Bay Day 17 – 05/02: Arugam Bay Surfing & relaxation Overnight: Arugam Bay Day 18 – 05/03: Arugam Bay Local exploration Overnight: Arugam Bay Day 19 – 05/04: Colombo Transfer Arugam Bay → Colombo (320 km, 7–8 h) + rest Overnight: Colombo Day 20 – 05/05: Colombo City tour & shopping Overnight: Colombo Day 21 – 05/06: Colombo Morning return flight from Colombo
Day 1 – 04/16: Wilpattu Arrival at the airport (08:00) + transfer to Wilpattu (180 km, 4–5 h) + afternoon safari Overnight: Wilpattu Day 2 – 04/17: Wilpattu Morning & afternoon safari Overnight: Wilpattu Day 3 – 04/18: Trincomalee Transfer Wilpattu → Trincomalee (200 km, 4–5 h) + beach relaxation Overnight: Trincomalee Day 4 – 04/19: Trincomalee Nilaveli Beach Overnight: Trincomalee Day 5 – 04/20: Trincomalee Pigeon Island snorkeling Overnight: Trincomalee Day 6 – 04/21: Trincomalee Fort Frederick & relaxation Overnight: Trincomalee Day 7 – 04/22: Sigiriya Transfer Trincomalee → Sigiriya (120 km, ~3 h) + visit to Dambulla Overnight: Sigiriya Day 8 – 04/23: Sigiriya Sigiriya Rock Overnight: Sigiriya Day 9 – 04/24: Sigiriya Minneriya safari Overnight: Sigiriya Day 10 – 04/25: Sigiriya Polonnaruwa & village tour Overnight: Sigiriya Day 11 – 04/26: Ella Transfer Sigiriya → Ella (230 km, 5–6 h) + rest Overnight: Ella Day 12 – 04/27: Ella Little Adam’s Peak & Nine Arches Bridge Overnight: Ella Day 13 – 04/28: Ella Ella Rock Overnight: Ella Day 14 – 04/29: Ella Tea Factory & relaxation Overnight: Ella Day 15 – 04/30: Yala Transfer Ella → Yala (110 km, 2–3 h) + afternoon safari Overnight: Yala Day 16 – 05/01: Arugam Bay Transfer Yala → Arugam Bay (80 km, 2.5–3 h) + beach time Overnight: Arugam Bay Day 17 – 05/02: Arugam Bay Surfing & relaxation Overnight: Arugam Bay Day 18 – 05/03: Arugam Bay Local exploration Overnight: Arugam Bay Day 19 – 05/04: Colombo Transfer Arugam Bay → Colombo (320 km, 7–8 h) + rest Overnight: Colombo Day 20 – 05/05: Colombo City tour & shopping Overnight: Colombo Day 21 – 05/06: Colombo Morning return flight from Colombo
Hi everyone,
We’re heading to Sri Lanka for three weeks in July with two kids (ages 6 and 13). We’ve drafted a rough itinerary but would love to hear from those who’ve already been there 😊 Of course, we want to see everything, but we have to make choices—even though three weeks on the ground lets us do quite a bit. We originally planned a schedule that felt too packed, so we had to cut one stop. We decided to skip Tangalle, even though we were really tempted. The monsoon won’t let us swim there, and the weather in the south is too uncertain, so we preferred to keep our stops on the east coast. Plus, we don’t think it’s reasonable to cut nights from other places. We’ve added a stop in Batticaloa, which we think will be a nice break between Arugam Bay and Sigiriya. What do you think? We’re also debating between Batticaloa and Passikudah. Does the itinerary seem logical to you?
Here it is:
Sri Lanka Itinerary Day 1 Arrival around 1 PM at the airport Night in Negombo Day 2 Drive from Negombo to Galle Visit Galle and surrounding areas Night in Galle Day 3 Visit Galle and surrounding areas Night in Galle Day 4 Visit Galle and surrounding areas Drive from Galle to Udawalawe Night in Udawalawe Day 5 Visit Udawalawe National Park Night in Udawalawe Day 6 Drive from Udawalawe to Ella Night in Ella Day 7 Ella Rock + Nine Arch Bridge Night in Ella Day 8 Visit Haputale Lipton’s Seat and Dambatenne Tea Factory Train ride back from Haputale to Ella Night in Ella Day 9 Little Adam’s Peak + drive from Ella to Arugam Bay Night in Arugam Bay Day 10 Visit Arugam Bay and surrounding areas Night in Arugam Bay Day 11 Visit Arugam Bay and surrounding areas Night in Arugam Bay Day 12 Drive from Arugam Bay to Batticaloa Night in Batticaloa Day 13 Visit Batticaloa Night in Batticaloa Day 14 Drive from Batticaloa to Sigiriya Night in Sigiriya Day 15 Lion Rock and Pidurangala Night in Sigiriya Day 16 Visit Dambulla Drive from Sigiriya to Trincomalee Night in Trincomalee Day 17 Visit Trincomalee and surrounding areas Night in Trincomalee Day 18 Visit Trincomalee and surrounding areas Night in Trincomalee Day 19 Drive from Trincomalee to Anuradhapura Night in Anuradhapura Day 20 Visit Anuradhapura Night in Anuradhapura Day 21 Visit Mihintale Drive from Anuradhapura to Negombo Night in Negombo Day 22 Day in Negombo and return flight
We’d love to hear your thoughts and tips! Thanks in advance!
We’re heading to Sri Lanka for three weeks in July with two kids (ages 6 and 13). We’ve drafted a rough itinerary but would love to hear from those who’ve already been there 😊 Of course, we want to see everything, but we have to make choices—even though three weeks on the ground lets us do quite a bit. We originally planned a schedule that felt too packed, so we had to cut one stop. We decided to skip Tangalle, even though we were really tempted. The monsoon won’t let us swim there, and the weather in the south is too uncertain, so we preferred to keep our stops on the east coast. Plus, we don’t think it’s reasonable to cut nights from other places. We’ve added a stop in Batticaloa, which we think will be a nice break between Arugam Bay and Sigiriya. What do you think? We’re also debating between Batticaloa and Passikudah. Does the itinerary seem logical to you?
Here it is:
Sri Lanka Itinerary Day 1 Arrival around 1 PM at the airport Night in Negombo Day 2 Drive from Negombo to Galle Visit Galle and surrounding areas Night in Galle Day 3 Visit Galle and surrounding areas Night in Galle Day 4 Visit Galle and surrounding areas Drive from Galle to Udawalawe Night in Udawalawe Day 5 Visit Udawalawe National Park Night in Udawalawe Day 6 Drive from Udawalawe to Ella Night in Ella Day 7 Ella Rock + Nine Arch Bridge Night in Ella Day 8 Visit Haputale Lipton’s Seat and Dambatenne Tea Factory Train ride back from Haputale to Ella Night in Ella Day 9 Little Adam’s Peak + drive from Ella to Arugam Bay Night in Arugam Bay Day 10 Visit Arugam Bay and surrounding areas Night in Arugam Bay Day 11 Visit Arugam Bay and surrounding areas Night in Arugam Bay Day 12 Drive from Arugam Bay to Batticaloa Night in Batticaloa Day 13 Visit Batticaloa Night in Batticaloa Day 14 Drive from Batticaloa to Sigiriya Night in Sigiriya Day 15 Lion Rock and Pidurangala Night in Sigiriya Day 16 Visit Dambulla Drive from Sigiriya to Trincomalee Night in Trincomalee Day 17 Visit Trincomalee and surrounding areas Night in Trincomalee Day 18 Visit Trincomalee and surrounding areas Night in Trincomalee Day 19 Drive from Trincomalee to Anuradhapura Night in Anuradhapura Day 20 Visit Anuradhapura Night in Anuradhapura Day 21 Visit Mihintale Drive from Anuradhapura to Negombo Night in Negombo Day 22 Day in Negombo and return flight
We’d love to hear your thoughts and tips! Thanks in advance!
We’re planning a 4-month trip in spring 2027. We’re looking for a third destination that optimizes transport costs. Ideally, somewhere very different from the other two (Polynesia and Indonesia). Thanks
Hi everyone!
We’re so excited to be heading to Italy for the first time this April with our two kids for a week. We’ve booked our round-trip flight, and we’ll be arriving and departing from Pisa.
Our rough plan so far includes visiting Pisa, taking the train to Florence, and exploring the Cinque Terre. Last night, a friend also suggested adding Siena to the list.
Our kids are 12 and 9 and are used to walking, but we’re not looking to rush around too much. We’d love any advice, especially about accommodation. Should we stay in Pisa and take day trips by train, or split our nights between a couple of different places?
We’re just starting our research, so any tips would be amazing! 😉
Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone.
A few days ago, I asked my 14-year-old son to pick a destination for a trip, and he chose Germany. So, we’re heading to Berlin for four days in February. The catch is that I don’t know this city (or this country) at all—I hadn’t even considered visiting just a month ago .
Could you please share some suggestions to make this first mother-son trip abroad a success? 🙂
Thanks for your tips and great deals.
Nanyne
Hi everyone,
Next summer, we (2 adults and a 12-year-old child) have decided to visit Japan.
Admittedly, it’s still early to plan everything, but my wife will soon need to request her vacation time—either in August or July... and we’re hesitating.
I know summer isn’t the ideal time to visit Japan, but we don’t really have a choice... It’s either July or August. On one hand, I’d love to experience the O-Bon festivities from August 14th to 16th, and I’ve drafted an initial itinerary that would let us experience the Gujo Hachiman Bon Odori, possibly visit the Okunoin Cemetery in Koyasan, and be in Kyoto on the 16th for the Gozan Okuribi fires. But on the other hand, I’m worried it’ll be *packed*, especially in Kyoto, and less enjoyable than in July. So, have any of you experienced these celebrations? Are they worth it? Too crowded? Do you know of other celebrations or festivals in July? Thanks for your input!
Next summer, we (2 adults and a 12-year-old child) have decided to visit Japan.
Admittedly, it’s still early to plan everything, but my wife will soon need to request her vacation time—either in August or July... and we’re hesitating.
I know summer isn’t the ideal time to visit Japan, but we don’t really have a choice... It’s either July or August. On one hand, I’d love to experience the O-Bon festivities from August 14th to 16th, and I’ve drafted an initial itinerary that would let us experience the Gujo Hachiman Bon Odori, possibly visit the Okunoin Cemetery in Koyasan, and be in Kyoto on the 16th for the Gozan Okuribi fires. But on the other hand, I’m worried it’ll be *packed*, especially in Kyoto, and less enjoyable than in July. So, have any of you experienced these celebrations? Are they worth it? Too crowded? Do you know of other celebrations or festivals in July? Thanks for your input!
Hello,
I’m reaching out because I’ve already read tons of info from other forums (thanks a million, by the way!) and blogs, but now I’m overwhelmed with details and have so many questions. I’m really hoping you can help us figure this out! Here’s the plan: We’re leaving France for Senegal in our camper van (with two kids, aged 4 and 7), then shipping the van to South Africa before heading to Namibia. We’re planning to leave this summer and should arrive in South Africa in early September. The goal is to reach Réunion by early December, which gives us 3 months to explore Southern Africa. Originally, we wanted to pick up the van in Cape Town, head up to Namibia, and visit the main parks and iconic spots, then go north to Botswana (Etosha Park) and Zimbabwe (Victoria Falls) before heading back down to South Africa to enjoy the milder temperatures while exploring the country. But now we’re wondering how to get back to South Africa. We’ve come up with three options: - Head back down through Botswana: I’ve read everywhere that Botswana isn’t recommended for kids under 6 (most parks) because it can be potentially dangerous—few enclosures for animals (even though we have a camper van with "secure" beds), and the agencies we’ve contacted don’t recommend it. Plus, southern Botswana is tough to navigate in a camper van. - Return from central Botswana (Maun) to Windhoek and drive back to Cape Town via Namibia. - Cross Zimbabwe and potentially Mozambique to head down to Kruger Park and Johannesburg.
Anyone familiar with this region have any recommendations?
Also, is it necessary to book accommodations in advance? Is that only required in certain countries (maybe Botswana/Zimbabwe)? We’d like a mix of camping and lodges.
All advice is welcome!
I’m reaching out because I’ve already read tons of info from other forums (thanks a million, by the way!) and blogs, but now I’m overwhelmed with details and have so many questions. I’m really hoping you can help us figure this out! Here’s the plan: We’re leaving France for Senegal in our camper van (with two kids, aged 4 and 7), then shipping the van to South Africa before heading to Namibia. We’re planning to leave this summer and should arrive in South Africa in early September. The goal is to reach Réunion by early December, which gives us 3 months to explore Southern Africa. Originally, we wanted to pick up the van in Cape Town, head up to Namibia, and visit the main parks and iconic spots, then go north to Botswana (Etosha Park) and Zimbabwe (Victoria Falls) before heading back down to South Africa to enjoy the milder temperatures while exploring the country. But now we’re wondering how to get back to South Africa. We’ve come up with three options: - Head back down through Botswana: I’ve read everywhere that Botswana isn’t recommended for kids under 6 (most parks) because it can be potentially dangerous—few enclosures for animals (even though we have a camper van with "secure" beds), and the agencies we’ve contacted don’t recommend it. Plus, southern Botswana is tough to navigate in a camper van. - Return from central Botswana (Maun) to Windhoek and drive back to Cape Town via Namibia. - Cross Zimbabwe and potentially Mozambique to head down to Kruger Park and Johannesburg.
Anyone familiar with this region have any recommendations?
Also, is it necessary to book accommodations in advance? Is that only required in certain countries (maybe Botswana/Zimbabwe)? We’d like a mix of camping and lodges.
All advice is welcome!
Hi there,
We’re planning a two-week trip to Colombia with our two kids at the end of July – early August, with a round-trip flight to Cartagena.
What itinerary would you recommend, knowing we’d prefer to avoid domestic flights?
We were thinking of Cartagena, Tayrona Park, Mompox, and maybe an island.
Do you think it’s a shame to skip big cities like Bogotá or Medellín?
Thanks so much in advance for your help!
Good morning! We're heading to Cape Verde for 2 weeks at the end of April—São Vicente, Boa Vista, and Santiago. We’re a family of 5: 3 kids (4, 6, and 12) and 2 adults.
My questions revolve around beaches (a spot with interesting snorkeling and safe swimming for the kids), accommodation (kid-friendly, parks nearby, pool, beach, or nature—more like guesthouses or family-run pensions), hikes (accessible for kids), and whether renting a car makes sense depending on the island, even though local buses are an adventure in themselves.
**Santiago:** - Beach & snorkeling: Tarrafal, Quebra Canela in Praia, Ribeira da Barca (okay for kids?), Águas Belas? - Any nice places to stay? - Hikes: Malagueta?, Baobab Boa Entrada, Pico António (accessible? elevation gain, time to climb, difficulty, interest for kids?)
**Boa Vista:** - Beach + snorkeling: Santa Mónica, Praia de Chaves, Gatas, ... Estoril Beach in Sal Rei maybe? - Can we swim at Turtle Bay to see the turtles even though it’s not nesting season? - Any nice places to stay? - Hikes: Viana Desert? Can we explore it solo by renting a 4x4 and easily find the points of interest? - Is it worth renting a 4x4 for our stay in Boa Vista?
**São Vicente:** - Beach + snorkeling: Laginha, Porto Grande, Praia Grande, Baía das Gatas, São Pedro...? (safe, good snorkeling?) - Any nice places to stay? - Hikes: cliffs?, Monte Verde?
Thanks for your feedback, great tips—especially for accommodation where we’re totally in the dark! And your thoughts on whether renting a car is a good idea and which beaches are safest for kids.
See you soon! Christophe
My questions revolve around beaches (a spot with interesting snorkeling and safe swimming for the kids), accommodation (kid-friendly, parks nearby, pool, beach, or nature—more like guesthouses or family-run pensions), hikes (accessible for kids), and whether renting a car makes sense depending on the island, even though local buses are an adventure in themselves.
**Santiago:** - Beach & snorkeling: Tarrafal, Quebra Canela in Praia, Ribeira da Barca (okay for kids?), Águas Belas? - Any nice places to stay? - Hikes: Malagueta?, Baobab Boa Entrada, Pico António (accessible? elevation gain, time to climb, difficulty, interest for kids?)
**Boa Vista:** - Beach + snorkeling: Santa Mónica, Praia de Chaves, Gatas, ... Estoril Beach in Sal Rei maybe? - Can we swim at Turtle Bay to see the turtles even though it’s not nesting season? - Any nice places to stay? - Hikes: Viana Desert? Can we explore it solo by renting a 4x4 and easily find the points of interest? - Is it worth renting a 4x4 for our stay in Boa Vista?
**São Vicente:** - Beach + snorkeling: Laginha, Porto Grande, Praia Grande, Baía das Gatas, São Pedro...? (safe, good snorkeling?) - Any nice places to stay? - Hikes: cliffs?, Monte Verde?
Thanks for your feedback, great tips—especially for accommodation where we’re totally in the dark! And your thoughts on whether renting a car is a good idea and which beaches are safest for kids.
See you soon! Christophe
Hi,
We’d like to visit the Alpes de Haute-Provence for 2 weeks with our 2 (adult) kids.
Any ideas for things to see and do?
Where should we choose our accommodation (house only) to be centrally located for sightseeing? We’re looking for villages with restaurants and bakeries.
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Best regards
Hi there, we’re heading to Tuscany in the second half of August with two kids (8 and 6 years old).
We’ve zeroed in on the area around Siena and Florence for now.
I’m looking for recommendations on places to stay and things to see that are great for families.
Also, just to add, we’ll be traveling by train and plan to rent a car once we’re there—any tips on car rental companies?
Thanks!
Thanks!
Hello everyone,
We’ve decided to head to Quebec next year—it’s been a dream for the whole family (after watching so many travel shows and the like...). There’ll be five of us: 2 adults, 2 teens (16 and 13), and a child (8 years old). We’re all pretty good walkers, though maybe the teens a little less so—it’s just that age, you know? 😊 That said, they’ve got no problem doing 15 km hikes, just not every single day.
We’re planning to go from July 23 to August 14, arriving and departing from Montreal, so almost 3 weeks. I’ve started looking into logistics and accommodation prices, but before I dive into bookings, I’d love some advice on the itinerary. I’ve read a few threads here and there. Our idea is to visit between 3 and 5 different places over the 3 weeks, so that means the same number of accommodations. The goal is to optimize travel as much as possible—I’ve realized that getting around can take a long time. I think the first two days will be in Montreal to adjust to the time difference, and the last two in Quebec City, though that’s not set in stone.
Anyway, I’m not really sure about the route. I’ve got time to plan everything, but I know the longer we wait, the more expensive and scarce accommodations will get. Same goes for budget—we’ve set aside a mid-range budget, flights included: 3k per person (1k for the flight). So if you’ve got any great tips or advice, we’re all ears!
I was thinking of going up the St. Lawrence River, but I’m not sure how long that takes or where to stop. Maybe there are other places worth visiting farther away...
Anyway, thanks for reading this far! If you’ve got any questions, don’t hesitate.
Thanks, everyone.
We’re planning to go from July 23 to August 14, arriving and departing from Montreal, so almost 3 weeks. I’ve started looking into logistics and accommodation prices, but before I dive into bookings, I’d love some advice on the itinerary. I’ve read a few threads here and there. Our idea is to visit between 3 and 5 different places over the 3 weeks, so that means the same number of accommodations. The goal is to optimize travel as much as possible—I’ve realized that getting around can take a long time. I think the first two days will be in Montreal to adjust to the time difference, and the last two in Quebec City, though that’s not set in stone.
Anyway, I’m not really sure about the route. I’ve got time to plan everything, but I know the longer we wait, the more expensive and scarce accommodations will get. Same goes for budget—we’ve set aside a mid-range budget, flights included: 3k per person (1k for the flight). So if you’ve got any great tips or advice, we’re all ears!
I was thinking of going up the St. Lawrence River, but I’m not sure how long that takes or where to stop. Maybe there are other places worth visiting farther away...
Anyway, thanks for reading this far! If you’ve got any questions, don’t hesitate.
Thanks, everyone.
Hi there
I hope you're starting this new year with your head full of travel memories or plans!!
I’d love to spend a week in July on a Greek island with my 8-year-old son. I’m totally in love with Amorgos, but not all the beaches are accessible for him. I’ve been to Santorini and Naxos before and don’t want to go back. Would you have an island to recommend that’s not too crowded 😕, with a few accessible beaches and where we won’t have to fight to get around or park?
Have a great day Christelle
I hope you're starting this new year with your head full of travel memories or plans!!
I’d love to spend a week in July on a Greek island with my 8-year-old son. I’m totally in love with Amorgos, but not all the beaches are accessible for him. I’ve been to Santorini and Naxos before and don’t want to go back. Would you have an island to recommend that’s not too crowded 😕, with a few accessible beaches and where we won’t have to fight to get around or park?
Have a great day Christelle
Hello,
A few months ago, I posted a message in the Southern Africa section about a family trip in July/August. In the end, since I had too much trouble deciding on the destination and procrastinated too much with the planning 😎, I changed my mind and we’re going for a completely different trip—to Madagascar, a country we already know a bit since we’ve traveled there several times for 4 to 6 months each time, though our last visit was back in 2012!
The tickets are booked: 19 days on the ground (excluding arrival and departure days in Tana), spanning July and August.
We’re not looking to rack up landscapes (and kilometers). The kids really want to see lots of animals, while we mostly want to show them what daily life is like in Malagasy villages. So ideally, we’d like a trip split into two parts: - For 8/10 days, a hiking portion. The idea isn’t to do a tough trek in very remote areas but rather to walk from one village to another. Let’s say 3-4 hours a day. And when we arrive in each village, we’d have time to explore a bit, chat with the locals, let our kids play with the village children, etc. Stay with locals when possible. Move to a new village every day or every 2-3 days. - A few days visiting 1 or 2 national parks (with lemurs if possible to keep everyone happy!) - With the inevitable travel days, we’ll quickly hit 19 days.
Does this kind of trip sound doable (and fun) to you? Do you know of any villages that would fit our hiking plans?
I don’t have a preferred region yet, except that very dry landscapes appeal to me less. My real love from past trips was the highlands and their bright green rice paddies against red earth, but I’m a bit worried about the cold at this time of year.
After my initial research (thanks to this forum), I get the impression that the Ambalavao/Ambohimahamasina area might meet our criteria. I saw there are "accueil paysan" (farm stays) in that area, which could match what we’re looking for and would let us visit Andringitra National Park and Ranomafana on the way there or back.
But I’m open to all your more original ideas!
For logistical questions (transport, guides, accommodations, etc.), I’ll tackle those later—it’ll depend on the area we choose.
Thanks in advance for your suggestions
A few months ago, I posted a message in the Southern Africa section about a family trip in July/August. In the end, since I had too much trouble deciding on the destination and procrastinated too much with the planning 😎, I changed my mind and we’re going for a completely different trip—to Madagascar, a country we already know a bit since we’ve traveled there several times for 4 to 6 months each time, though our last visit was back in 2012!
The tickets are booked: 19 days on the ground (excluding arrival and departure days in Tana), spanning July and August.
We’re not looking to rack up landscapes (and kilometers). The kids really want to see lots of animals, while we mostly want to show them what daily life is like in Malagasy villages. So ideally, we’d like a trip split into two parts: - For 8/10 days, a hiking portion. The idea isn’t to do a tough trek in very remote areas but rather to walk from one village to another. Let’s say 3-4 hours a day. And when we arrive in each village, we’d have time to explore a bit, chat with the locals, let our kids play with the village children, etc. Stay with locals when possible. Move to a new village every day or every 2-3 days. - A few days visiting 1 or 2 national parks (with lemurs if possible to keep everyone happy!) - With the inevitable travel days, we’ll quickly hit 19 days.
Does this kind of trip sound doable (and fun) to you? Do you know of any villages that would fit our hiking plans?
I don’t have a preferred region yet, except that very dry landscapes appeal to me less. My real love from past trips was the highlands and their bright green rice paddies against red earth, but I’m a bit worried about the cold at this time of year.
After my initial research (thanks to this forum), I get the impression that the Ambalavao/Ambohimahamasina area might meet our criteria. I saw there are "accueil paysan" (farm stays) in that area, which could match what we’re looking for and would let us visit Andringitra National Park and Ranomafana on the way there or back.
But I’m open to all your more original ideas!
For logistical questions (transport, guides, accommodations, etc.), I’ll tackle those later—it’ll depend on the area we choose.
Thanks in advance for your suggestions
Dear Travelers,
We’re a family with young kids (6 years old, 3 years old, and a newborn) and we’d like to spend about ten days in Aquitaine (in Gironde or Les Landes). We’d love to be near pretty villages to visit and, if possible, close to the sea. We’re planning to stay at a campsite with a pool so the kids can play. Could you recommend any places/villages/campsites for us? We don’t know the region at all.
Thanks so much!
Camille
We’re a family with young kids (6 years old, 3 years old, and a newborn) and we’d like to spend about ten days in Aquitaine (in Gironde or Les Landes). We’d love to be near pretty villages to visit and, if possible, close to the sea. We’re planning to stay at a campsite with a pool so the kids can play. Could you recommend any places/villages/campsites for us? We don’t know the region at all.
Thanks so much!
Camille
Hi there,
We’re a family of five (our kids are 6, 15, and 19) and we’d love to go somewhere warm with our feet in the water during the first two weeks of August 2026. We’d also like to do some cultural visits and a bit of hiking. We were thinking of Guadeloupe—I know it’s not the ideal time of year, but we don’t have much flexibility. Is it really a bad idea, or can we still enjoy it despite the weather?
Another option for us would be Madeira, which seems more reliable weather-wise, but it sounds like the beaches are less accessible and not as nice.
We haven’t really looked elsewhere because everything else (except the Canary Islands, Balearics, or Corsica) seems way too expensive. But if you’ve got any recommendations, don’t hesitate—we’re just starting to look into it.
Thanks so much,
Pierre
We’re a family of five (our kids are 6, 15, and 19) and we’d love to go somewhere warm with our feet in the water during the first two weeks of August 2026. We’d also like to do some cultural visits and a bit of hiking. We were thinking of Guadeloupe—I know it’s not the ideal time of year, but we don’t have much flexibility. Is it really a bad idea, or can we still enjoy it despite the weather?
Another option for us would be Madeira, which seems more reliable weather-wise, but it sounds like the beaches are less accessible and not as nice.
We haven’t really looked elsewhere because everything else (except the Canary Islands, Balearics, or Corsica) seems way too expensive. But if you’ve got any recommendations, don’t hesitate—we’re just starting to look into it.
Thanks so much,
Pierre
Hi,
This summer, we’re spending a month in Malaysia. There are 3 adults and two kids in our group. I’ve just finished planning our itinerary and I’d love to get your thoughts on whether it feels "coherent."
Thanks in advance for your feedback!
Christelle
07/07 Depart France 10:30 AM
08/07 Arrive KL 7:50 PM
09/07 KL
10/07 KL / Batu Caves
11/07 KL
12/07 KL → Kuching (flight)
13/07 Kuching
14/07 Bako National Park
15/07 Bako → Kuching
16/07 Semenggoh Reserve
17/07 Kuching → Mulu (flight)
18/07 Mulu National Park
19/07 Mulu → Kota Kinabalu (flight)
20/07 Kota Kinabalu → Sandakan (flight)
21/07 Kinabatangan
22/07 Kinabatangan → Sandakan / Sandakan → KL (flight)
23/07 Malacca
24/07 Malacca → Chin Swee Caves Temple
25/07 Chin Swee Caves Temple → Kuala Tahan / Taman Negara Park
26/07 Taman Negara Park
27/07 Kuala Tahan → Kuala Besut
28/07 Perhentian Islands
29/07 Perhentian Islands
30/07 Perhentian Islands
31/07 Perhentian → George Town
01/08 George Town / Penang
02/08 George Town / Penang
03/08 Ipoh
04/08 Cameron Highlands
05/08 Return to KL
06/08 Return to France
Hi everyone,
I’m planning a 3-week trip to Malaysia this July with my 6-year-old son.
I’d thought we’d go this year, but we ended up returning to Samui instead.
I’ve decided to limit it to 4 stops to avoid moving around too often and to fully enjoy each place without rushing. The travel times between each spot aren’t too long, except for the one between Sandakan and Langkawi.
* 05: Arrival in KL in the afternoon. 06: Day in KL. I’ve been there a few times and know the city a bit.
* 07: Head to Kota Kinabalu 08 – 09: In KK
* 10: Flight from Sandakan to Sepilok 11: In Sepilok
* 12: Flight to Kinabatangan 13 – 14: In Kinabatangan
* 15: Head to Langkawi 15 – 21: In Langkawi
* 22: Return to KL 23 – 24: In KL
* 25: Return flight
Any thoughts on this itinerary? I have a rough idea of what we’ll do at each stop after checking online and with ChatGPT.
Thanks! 🙂
I’ve decided to limit it to 4 stops to avoid moving around too often and to fully enjoy each place without rushing. The travel times between each spot aren’t too long, except for the one between Sandakan and Langkawi.
* 05: Arrival in KL in the afternoon. 06: Day in KL. I’ve been there a few times and know the city a bit.
* 07: Head to Kota Kinabalu 08 – 09: In KK
* 10: Flight from Sandakan to Sepilok 11: In Sepilok
* 12: Flight to Kinabatangan 13 – 14: In Kinabatangan
* 15: Head to Langkawi 15 – 21: In Langkawi
* 22: Return to KL 23 – 24: In KL
* 25: Return flight
Any thoughts on this itinerary? I have a rough idea of what we’ll do at each stop after checking online and with ChatGPT.
Thanks! 🙂
Hi there,
We’re heading out at the end of February for a road trip with our two kids, ages 3 and 7. Our itinerary includes Ait Ben Haddou, Tizi-n-Tichka, Sourate, Tinghir, Zagora, Ouarzazate, Ouzoud, and Essaouira. I’d love recommendations for accommodations, restaurants, and typical/spectacular spots to visit. We’d like to spend a night in the Zagora desert. We’re looking for authenticity and a friendly vibe—not tourist traps—for our trip. We’ll be there during Ramadan—any tips? Thanks in advance!
Your fellow globetrotter’s perspective is invaluable.
We’re heading out at the end of February for a road trip with our two kids, ages 3 and 7. Our itinerary includes Ait Ben Haddou, Tizi-n-Tichka, Sourate, Tinghir, Zagora, Ouarzazate, Ouzoud, and Essaouira. I’d love recommendations for accommodations, restaurants, and typical/spectacular spots to visit. We’d like to spend a night in the Zagora desert. We’re looking for authenticity and a friendly vibe—not tourist traps—for our trip. We’ll be there during Ramadan—any tips? Thanks in advance!
Your fellow globetrotter’s perspective is invaluable.
Hi there!
After our Central Asia trip this summer, we’ll be setting foot in Africa for the first time next February with our three kids (ages 5, 13, and 17).
I’ve fine-tuned a little itinerary with ChatGPT based on our interests and expectations, and here’s what came out:
Tuesday, February 24 — Dakar
Landing at 1:00 AM
Early afternoon: visit Gorée Island
Back to Dakar, light dinner
7:00 PM: boarding the ferry “Aline Sitoé Diatta”
Overnight on board (cabin)
Wednesday, February 25 — Ziguinchor
Arrival between 9:00–11:00 AM
Staying with a local host
Stroll: Saint-Maur market, river port
Overnight in Ziguinchor
Thursday, February 26 – Saturday, February 28 — Casamance (Cap Skirring & Oussouye)
February 26: Ziguinchor → Carabane road trip, explore the island, overnight on the island
February 27: Cap Skirring, beach time
February 28: Cap Skirring, relaxation, stroll, beach
Sunday, March 1 – Tuesday, March 3 — Oussouye
Head to Oussouye (~1 hour)
Discover Diola villages, rice fields, market, handicrafts
Overnights: Oussouye (3 nights)
Wednesday, March 4 – Friday, March 6 — Sine-Saloum
Drive to Toubacouta via the Trans-Gambian Highway (Gambia)
Stay with a local host / camp on the bolongs
Activities: pirogue ride in the delta, Serer villages, biking, handicraft discovery
Overnights: Sine-Saloum (3 nights)
Saturday, March 7 – Sunday, March 8 — Petite Côte
Drive to Somone / Ngaparou (~3 hours)
Stay with a local host
Activities: beach, safari at Bandia Reserve, kayaking on the lagoon, craft market
Overnights: Petite Côte (2 nights, including Sunday, March 8, to enjoy the full day before the nighttime departure)
Monday, March 9 — Departure
Transfer to Blaise Diagne International Airport (~45 minutes)
Flight leaves at 2:00 AM
I’ve got a few questions:
- Is an afternoon on Gorée Island worth it? I really want to go, but the ferry departure days are a bit limiting. - How easy is it to get around between these different stops? Can we find a taxi that fits all five of us? - Do you have any accommodation recommendations? I’d love to stay with locals as much as possible—we’re not looking for luxury, just a bed and a shower. - February 28 is my birthday, and I’d love to do something “special”: any ideas for a nice place to stay, a great restaurant, or an out-of-the-ordinary activity? We’ll be around Cap Skirring. - Does this itinerary seem coherent? I really want to visit Casamance, and we’d prefer to stay no more than 3 nights in the same place.
Don’t hesitate to share your tips! Thanks so much!
After our Central Asia trip this summer, we’ll be setting foot in Africa for the first time next February with our three kids (ages 5, 13, and 17).
I’ve fine-tuned a little itinerary with ChatGPT based on our interests and expectations, and here’s what came out:
Tuesday, February 24 — Dakar
Landing at 1:00 AM
Early afternoon: visit Gorée Island
Back to Dakar, light dinner
7:00 PM: boarding the ferry “Aline Sitoé Diatta”
Overnight on board (cabin)
Wednesday, February 25 — Ziguinchor
Arrival between 9:00–11:00 AM
Staying with a local host
Stroll: Saint-Maur market, river port
Overnight in Ziguinchor
Thursday, February 26 – Saturday, February 28 — Casamance (Cap Skirring & Oussouye)
February 26: Ziguinchor → Carabane road trip, explore the island, overnight on the island
February 27: Cap Skirring, beach time
February 28: Cap Skirring, relaxation, stroll, beach
Sunday, March 1 – Tuesday, March 3 — Oussouye
Head to Oussouye (~1 hour)
Discover Diola villages, rice fields, market, handicrafts
Overnights: Oussouye (3 nights)
Wednesday, March 4 – Friday, March 6 — Sine-Saloum
Drive to Toubacouta via the Trans-Gambian Highway (Gambia)
Stay with a local host / camp on the bolongs
Activities: pirogue ride in the delta, Serer villages, biking, handicraft discovery
Overnights: Sine-Saloum (3 nights)
Saturday, March 7 – Sunday, March 8 — Petite Côte
Drive to Somone / Ngaparou (~3 hours)
Stay with a local host
Activities: beach, safari at Bandia Reserve, kayaking on the lagoon, craft market
Overnights: Petite Côte (2 nights, including Sunday, March 8, to enjoy the full day before the nighttime departure)
Monday, March 9 — Departure
Transfer to Blaise Diagne International Airport (~45 minutes)
Flight leaves at 2:00 AM
I’ve got a few questions:
- Is an afternoon on Gorée Island worth it? I really want to go, but the ferry departure days are a bit limiting. - How easy is it to get around between these different stops? Can we find a taxi that fits all five of us? - Do you have any accommodation recommendations? I’d love to stay with locals as much as possible—we’re not looking for luxury, just a bed and a shower. - February 28 is my birthday, and I’d love to do something “special”: any ideas for a nice place to stay, a great restaurant, or an out-of-the-ordinary activity? We’ll be around Cap Skirring. - Does this itinerary seem coherent? I really want to visit Casamance, and we’d prefer to stay no more than 3 nights in the same place.
Don’t hesitate to share your tips! Thanks so much!
Hello,
I’d like to go to Morocco with my 10-year-old daughter for three weeks in February.
Do you think, as women traveling alone, we’ll feel comfortable? Sorry if my question seems odd, but when I mentioned my plans, I got some hesitant reactions.
I’ve never been to North Africa. I’ve traveled several times to the Sultanate of Oman, where I felt very at ease as long as we respected the basic cultural norms. For those who know Morocco, do you think it’s different? Would it be appropriate for me to cover my head?
I was thinking of arriving in Agadir and spending a few days in Taghazout and the surrounding area. After that, if you have any tips, I’m all ears. We’re looking to discover Moroccan cultures, see artisans at work, or even try our hand at a local craft—we’d love that. Simply meeting families, seeing landscapes, animals, and soaking in the culture gently, opening ourselves to something new—that’s what motivates us. And if there are opportunities to listen to local music, even better.
We’ll be traveling by public transport. Thanks in advance for your ideas. Happy travels to everyone.
I was thinking of arriving in Agadir and spending a few days in Taghazout and the surrounding area. After that, if you have any tips, I’m all ears. We’re looking to discover Moroccan cultures, see artisans at work, or even try our hand at a local craft—we’d love that. Simply meeting families, seeing landscapes, animals, and soaking in the culture gently, opening ourselves to something new—that’s what motivates us. And if there are opportunities to listen to local music, even better.
We’ll be traveling by public transport. Thanks in advance for your ideas. Happy travels to everyone.
we’re taking our grandkids in early 2026 (14 and 10 years old) without their parents. Do we really need to have birth certificates and other forms translated by a sworn translator?
Hi there, I’m really sorry if this question has already been asked several times—I’ve been scouring blogs, forums, and various sites for a while now, but I still have some more specific questions for our trip...
First off, we’re a family of four with two kids aged 10 and 14. We’ve already been to Thailand and Laos five times with them (each trip lasting a month or six weeks), and we’re huge Thailand lovers, but this year we’d like to discover Indonesia, which we don’t know at all (for a duration of 4 or 5 weeks between late June and late July). We travel pretty "roots" style with a budget of 100 € per day and avoid touristy areas as much as possible. We get around using local transport, rent scooters, and take our time (for a one-month trip, we usually visit 4 destinations to really soak it in). So here are my upcoming questions:
For a first visit, I wanted to focus on a single island—Lombok—by taking a flight from Paris to Denpasar and then a boat to Lombok. Do you think the following route would work? - Kuta Lombok - Gili Gede - Gili Meno - Tetebatu
I saw there’s a local boat to Lombok—has anyone here taken it before? For those who’ve been there during this period, do you know if Gili Meno and Gili Gede get crowded, or should we focus more on the coasts? To get between these spots, are there buses, or do we need to take private taxis? As for accommodations, we’re used to booking triple rooms for all four of us in Thailand. For those who travel with kids, do you know if that’s doable in Indonesia, or should we book two double rooms instead?
Last (slightly silly) question: We want to go to Indonesia because our son dreams of seeing beautiful marine life while snorkeling—I think Lombok is a good choice for that. But my daughter is a huge fan of those "knick-knack" markets full of Chinese trinkets that you find all over Thailand. Do you know if Lombok has any day or night markets where we could go?
Thank you so much for your help! !
First off, we’re a family of four with two kids aged 10 and 14. We’ve already been to Thailand and Laos five times with them (each trip lasting a month or six weeks), and we’re huge Thailand lovers, but this year we’d like to discover Indonesia, which we don’t know at all (for a duration of 4 or 5 weeks between late June and late July). We travel pretty "roots" style with a budget of 100 € per day and avoid touristy areas as much as possible. We get around using local transport, rent scooters, and take our time (for a one-month trip, we usually visit 4 destinations to really soak it in). So here are my upcoming questions:
For a first visit, I wanted to focus on a single island—Lombok—by taking a flight from Paris to Denpasar and then a boat to Lombok. Do you think the following route would work? - Kuta Lombok - Gili Gede - Gili Meno - Tetebatu
I saw there’s a local boat to Lombok—has anyone here taken it before? For those who’ve been there during this period, do you know if Gili Meno and Gili Gede get crowded, or should we focus more on the coasts? To get between these spots, are there buses, or do we need to take private taxis? As for accommodations, we’re used to booking triple rooms for all four of us in Thailand. For those who travel with kids, do you know if that’s doable in Indonesia, or should we book two double rooms instead?
Last (slightly silly) question: We want to go to Indonesia because our son dreams of seeing beautiful marine life while snorkeling—I think Lombok is a good choice for that. But my daughter is a huge fan of those "knick-knack" markets full of Chinese trinkets that you find all over Thailand. Do you know if Lombok has any day or night markets where we could go?
Thank you so much for your help! !

