Hmm, I just love these discussions where we’ll go in circles for 50 topics! 😉
Because, in my opinion, you can’t categorize a destination into one box or another! Why do we always have to put things in boxes, anyway? Everyone will find what they’re looking for in their travels—or discover what they come across…
Two examples:
- My Haute-Savoie: A nature destination?
Spend eight days in downtown Annecy or in our neighbor Geneva, and you won’t see the tail of a marmot…
- Australia (where I’m lucky enough to be right now). What do Sydney, Melbourne, and the Uluru bush have in common? To find out, there’ll be a travel journal 😉
That was my two cents for this discussion. Have a great day, everyone!
"Le véritable voyage de découverte ne consiste pas à chercher de nouveaux paysages, mais à avoir de nouveaux yeux."
Marcel Proust
This doesn’t directly answer the question, but it might open up some ideas...
First, to clear the brush—I had no idea what a "Nature destination" could be, so I asked our friend Google two questions:
Which country has the most beautiful nature? What are the top nature destinations?
The country that comes out on top isn’t India or a country in Southern Africa, but... Costa Rica!
In recent years, Costa Rica has established itself as the ultimate nature destination
Costa Rica as the #1 nature destination?
Awesome, I spent a month there in 2022—I can tell you all about it!
Or not, since it’s part of my upcoming travel journals… 😉
Or just this one, to tide you over 😛
"Le véritable voyage de découverte ne consiste pas à chercher de nouveaux paysages, mais à avoir de nouveaux yeux."
Marcel Proust
Hi,
In the deleted post, it was about bad students when it comes to ecology, pesticides, etc.
I went to Costa Rica, and that country didn’t leave me with memorable memories... However, I must admit that compared to all the other Central American countries, Costa Rica seems to me like a good student in terms of protecting "natural spaces" and biodiversity, even if its agriculture isn’t exemplary. Putting nature under a glass dome probably has some positive effects.
because to my mind, you can’t categorize a destination into one box or another
Sure, but if someone asks you about Namibia, like "Can I party in nightclubs every night?", what would you say?
Personally, I’d say it’s not a destination for partying but one for vast natural spaces, and I’d recommend Amsterdam, Paris, or Ibiza in the summer instead...
That said, I agree that the idea of a nature destination varies a lot from one person to another.
For some ultra-urban folks used to crowds and noise, the summit of Puy de Dôme is a grand natural space.
For me, a natural space is one reserved for nature—a place where human impact is as minimal as possible, ideally explored without a driver or guide to fully appreciate its "wildness."
A place where man-made noises don’t exist, where buildings are nearly nonexistent. A place where the Milky Way can be seen without any light pollution, a space spanning dozens of kilometers...
A deserted island...
In short, more of a spot in a country where population density is generally (but not always) under 10 inhabitants per square kilometer... And somewhere not too touristy...
Messum Crater, Baines Baobabs, Tankwa Karoo, the Richtersveld, KTP, some parts of the Altiplano, some corners of the Pantanal...
The opposite of a natural space, for me, is the Tour du Mont Blanc, the Blue Eye in Albania, wildlife parks in India (the ones I’ve visited), maybe even Everest’s summit in season...
I get the feeling that Australia might fit my definition in some regions?
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I’ve pretty much seen all the wonders featured in this travel journal.
None of them match my own definition of a nature destination...
Especially not Nagarhole (barely 400 km²).
This park is better than Sasan Gir, but it doesn’t compare to any of the parks I’ve visited in Southern Africa.
I had a pleasant time there—the guide was nice, and the bungalow was comfortable, though it could’ve been improved.
That said, this visit helped me realize I shouldn’t expect much from Indian parks and that it wasn’t worth spending thousands of rupees on them.
Especially since this park is rather off the beaten path. I can’t even imagine what the more popular ones are like.
In short, it’s worth stopping by if the price is reasonable, but don’t expect the same sensations you’d get in Southern Africa if you’re used to that kind of destination (especially self-drive).
(It’s all about the overall experience—not just animal density.)
(The experience might be slightly more rewarding with a self-drive rental car instead of a driver.)
That said, I haven’t seen all of India.
Some parts of the country are less suited to human settlement, so they’re probably more to my taste for a nature-focused trip than the areas I’ve already visited.
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Wow, you really hit the jackpot that day with Michel the tiger! The photos are amazing 🤩 and that moment must’ve been truly magical!
Of course, for African safari specialists, Indian national parks might pale in comparison, but they’re perfect for people like me—happy with little and easily amazed by the smallest things 😊 (my only limit is not wanting too many humans around in those moments!).
But honestly, comparing Indian and African "natural spaces" makes about as much sense as comparing the Atlantic to the Mediterranean… doesn’t stop us from loving both, though! 😊
Have a great evening
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So, for you (like for Michel, apparently?), India is a nature destination?
What’s your definition of a nature destination?
(It’s not about comparing or ranking, just sharing your own definition of a natural space—like I did a few messages back. The rest is just a digression after Michel asked about my perception of a region in India, which didn’t match my own definition. My take must not have been clear enough since he thought Nagarhole might work for me as a natural space.)
Anyway, if someone asked you to name a few nature destinations, which ones would come to mind and why?🙂
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I’m mostly in Bruno’s and Agnès’s club 😄: why try to categorize everything?
I’ve got a simple mindset—I visit countries where there are cities AND nature, and definitely, everywhere and more and more, I enjoy what I call "rurality," which for me is the space between cities and wide-open landscapes.
But I definitely don’t think of India first if someone mentions a nature destination... except for the Andaman Islands with their stunning primary forests 😄.
And I’d struggle to name "nature destinations"! Regions or areas, sure, but entire countries? No, because human footprint is everywhere.
At least from what I’ve seen in my life.
The only places left are the North and South Poles. Maybe the only truly "nature" spots on the planet 😊.
Christelle
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For me, a natural space is a space reserved for nature, a place where the human footprint is as minimal as possible, a place that’s ideally explored without a driver or guide to better appreciate its "inhumanity."
Sure, but what about those well-secured, developed, regulated, and paid-for spaces? Places where no one lives because the locals were pushed out to make way for tourist "activities" and "safaris"? That’s the reality today in Tanzania and Kenya, and it used to be the case in South Africa (Kruger Park), though no one talks about it anymore—just like in the U.S., where Indigenous peoples are confined to "reserves" that often aren’t even their ancestral lands.
They protect wildlife purely for tourism, at the expense of humans...
In my view, nature destinations are wild areas (untouched by humans) of two types:
Those that are home to Indigenous populations, more or less integrated into the modern world, where you can find shelter or camp near villages—and others that are almost completely uninhabited, requiring serious planning to cross (transporting gear and food for days or weeks, and needing to camp along the way).
A *real* nature destination is wild and has to be earned—not just by paying an entrance fee. It’s not developed in any way. No comfortable or even luxurious accommodations, no man-made hides for photographing animals at watering holes. No rule forcing you to stay in your "camp" by 6 PM or face a fine. No tourist-friendly roads packed with vehicles lined up to spot a lion hiding in the bushes... etc., etc.
You enter at your own risk, on foot, with nothing but camping as an option.
A few nature destinations outside parks (if they exist in these regions)—this list is far from exhaustive:
The vast Siberian expanses, Kamchatka, the Mongolian steppes, much of the Himalayas (northern Pakistan, Spiti, Zanskar, Dolpo, Mustang, Sikkim), the northern Canadian Rockies and Alaska (excluding developed and regulated parks), the Colombian, Venezuelan, Guyanese, Brazilian, Peruvian, Ecuadorian, and Bolivian Amazon, the Venezuelan Gran Sabana, parts of Argentine Patagonia (outside tourist parks), large areas of the Sahara (Tanezrouft, Ténéré, Tibesti, etc.), the Australian deserts, Papua New Guinea, Irian Jaya, the equatorial forests of the Congo, the Central African Republic, Cameroon... and other African countries.
I’m leaving out many other regions where access is restricted due to political bans or regulations, like the mountains and deserts of China (Xinjiang, Taklamakan, Tibet, etc.).
I’ll let you all discuss and share your definition of a nature destination. 🙂
And you’ve got 3 hours... 😉
Nature travel or travel *in* nature?
I pretty much agree with what’s been said above. For me, a "nature" trip is one where you discover places in their raw state—where nothing has been developed by humans for humans, which is getting rarer and rarer.
(I was hoping to find that kind of place in Kamchatka, but our trip got canceled for reasons we all know...)
Of course, we usually enjoy these kinds of places on foot, during multi-day or even multi-week treks. No comfort in this kind of activity. You live "naturally," you think "naturally"...
Unless you’re a die-hard fan of that lifestyle, you can also enjoy nature and do a trek in slightly more developed areas. I’m thinking, for example, of many treks in Nepal.
For me, a trek is the ultimate nature destination.
Exploring remote trails in a 4x4 with full autonomy, like in the Australian Outback, is also a nature destination—within certain limits.
Nature destinations often go hand in hand with adventure and leaving behind everyday comforts
I wanted to add a few more details to what I wrote earlier, and I’m taking your message—which echoes ideas I really agree with—as an opportunity to expand on my answer.
A “nature destination” isn’t necessarily the size of an entire country. It’s all relative… From space, the Sahara is just a big sandbox.
The scale of a “nature destination” or, in other words, a “natural space,” also depends on how quickly you can move through it.
When traveling on foot, covering 50 km through rugged mountain terrain can take several days of hiking (often without seeing anyone if you stray from the routes described in guidebooks), and you’re still completely immersed in nature… Yet you can drive through that same region in less than an hour and end up… in a city!
That’s why I consider certain regions of France to be “nature destinations.”
I’ll only mention the ones I know best: the High Jura, Vanoise, the Vercors where I live, the Écrins, the Causses, the Cévennes, part of the Basque Country, and Corsica when you cross it from east to west along the ridges (for example). It’s a bit less true north-south because of how busy the famous GR20 is.
A nature destination isn’t necessarily a place where you’re guaranteed to see lots of animals… Almost every time I hike in the Vercors, I come across ibex… but that’s not why I go; I just love being surprised by their presence.
What I’m really looking for in a “nature destination” is a space of freedom. Freedom I don’t find in a car or even in a plane (I’m a private pilot but don’t fly anymore), where everything is even more regulated than on land…
I admire sailors, though, who see the sea as the last true space of freedom—but that’s not my world (too bad). I’m a landlubber. I’ve noticed that in France, everything is becoming more and more regulated… Bans everywhere. The slightest rockslide in the mountains, and *bam*—the local mayor or prefect issues a decree banning a “dangerous” trail.
And then there are the pointless “improvements”… Concrete or metal platforms popping up everywhere—they call them *belvédères*!
There are plenty of nature destinations in Europe—I’ve been discovering them over the past few years:
Bulgaria: Rila, Stara Planina, Pirin, Rhodopes
Romania: Carpathians, Apuseni, Bucegi
Albania: Dinaric Alps.
No developments, no bans, no entry “tickets”! But sometimes access is tricky—you can’t get everywhere in a 4x4!
Exploring remote tracks in a 4X4 with full autonomy, like in the Australian Outback, can also be a nature destination, to a certain extent.
Yes, if everything has stayed as wild as it was before tourism developed in those regions. So no road or track construction for tourists, no concrete parking lots, no luxury lodges or hotels, no tolls to enjoy an UNTOUCHED nature… no site developments with marked trails, enclosed camps, walkways, safety barriers, fences, barbed wire, and so on…
For me, a nature destination is first and foremost a place—or places—where animals live in the wild. There’s nothing more beautiful than seeing a wild animal free in nature. The two go hand in hand.
The birds make the Brière sublime; it’s a nature destination despite the roads around it.
The Camargue is the same.
In France, we’re never far from the noise of human activity—quad bikes, helicopters, etc.
In France, we’re never far from some noise linked to human activity—like quads, helicopters, etc.
I think it’s easier outside of peak season.
I went to the upper Clarée Valley in early May. The snow was still thick, and we hiked up to the Drayères refuge. There was no one around—no people, no noise!
Everything was closed, and the horizon was completely white.
I felt like I was at the end of the world! 😛
The road leading to the start of the hikes is closed in summer to regulate traffic. The magic must be broken during that season.
(Same experience at the Col de l’Izoard—road closed due to snow, so a total sense of isolation up there, even though it’s packed in July-August)
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Well, I’m handing in a blank paper. I’ve got no definition for a “nature destination,” and frankly, I couldn’t care less.
I vaguely get that it’s about surface area (what’s the threshold in km²???). After all, my garden might just be a nature destination since it has plenty of visitors—feathered ones and even furry ones, like that squirrel who comes by to say hi every morning.
Wow, how did you guys hit the jackpot that day with Michel the tiger? The photos are amazing 🤩 and that moment must’ve been truly magical!
Well, you know, when I posted this sequence on VF before the big upheaval we all know about, it actually earned me some teasing from a few members...
Beyond that, it’s clear that for African safari specialists, India’s national parks pale in comparison
That’s true, and it also applies to Sri Lanka, which oversells its parks. I’ve also visited the parks in Assam that protect the one-horned rhinoceros, an endemic species. But after going to Kenya several times—and occasionally Tanzania and Namibia—the Asian parks just don’t measure up to those in East and Southern Africa.
I went to the upper Clarée valley in early May. There was still plenty of snow, and we hiked up to the Drayères refuge. There wasn’t a soul around—no one, not a sound!
Everything was closed, and everything was white on the horizon.
Well, I’d rather not be alone in those conditions...
No restrictions are indicated on the trails we took.
And these trails are used all winter for snowshoeing (without a high-mountain guide...)
Besides, this isn’t about pushing limits—it’s super basic. Except for 10 centimeters of snow...
Oh, and when I say "alone," I mean as a couple.
It’s true that hiking solo—even easy hikes, even in good conditions, even in summer, even on a paved trail—can turn fatal.
A heart attack, a fall, and things can go south fast if there’s no one around to help.
But hey, at that point, you might as well not do anything...
(I can start a discussion on hiking dangers and mountain risks if you’d like?)
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Uh... A bit too cold for me, but who knows, maybe one day??
This year, we’re heading back to China. It’s a nature destination in the sense that we’ll be visiting provinces where natural landscapes dominate (desert, peaks, etc.), but it’ll be nature Chinese-style most of the time—think viewing platforms and all that... 😉
(It’s Costa Rica that’ll top this thread since you were the first to post a photo.... Lesson learned—I shouldn’t rush my posts so much!AngryDoubtfulSmile)
Alright, your photo, Bruno, was vertical. That’s not the most effective format.
The algorithm dethroned it for the first horizontal photo posted.
So here’s a squirrel as the banner for this discussion !
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so it’ll mostly be nature Chinese-style with platforms and such...
I’d be curious to see what that looks like!
Uh... A bit too cold for me, but who knows, maybe one day??
When it comes to freezing, I’d love to treat myself to this someday.
The trip of a lifetime?
(Okay, it doesn’t *fully* match my ideal definition of a wide-open natural space since there’ll be quite a few people on the boat, but sometimes you’ve gotta make compromises!)
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So, Thailand—would you say it’s a nature destination or not?
Oh, you know me, naturism isn’t really my thing...
« Tout le monde s'interroge sur comment laisser une meilleure planète à nos enfants, mais on devrait plutôt penser à laisser de meilleurs enfants pour notre planète. » Clint Eastwood
Some people ask their virtual friend, but I consulted my old Monegasque aunt. For her, without hesitation, the nature destination is the Jardin Exotique de Monaco. She points out that this country—the most densely populated in the world—has 20% of its area dedicated to parks and gardens.
As for my grandson, a three-year-old adventurer raised in the city center, his answer is clear-cut: Nature & Découvertes.
Goes to show, everyone has their own idea of nature... and culture.
Ah, I forgot to mention that I was talking about the vast spaces offered by the halls of Saint Petersburg’s major museums. In this case, the Russian Museum, where this large landscape by Ivan Shishkin—a Russian painter from the Realist Wanderers movement—is displayed.
So this gallery is definitely a "nature" destination. Oh wait, oops—I didn’t notice at first, but you can still spot two human figures—including a hunter—in two of the paintings! 😛
I don’t see any fruit bowls, vases of flowers, game, skulls, musical instruments, glasses of wine, jugs, or other household objects in these landscapes... Guess we’ll have to open another thread! 😄
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Hi everyone, just this once I’m not posting for a travel story, but to share a thought for Venezuela.
If you didn’t know—since it’s not making headlines—the country was hit by two 7.5-magnitude earthquakes last week. Over 2,200 people have died, more than 50,000 are missing, and some coastal towns have been completely destroyed.
Maybe when the scale of the humanitarian crisis becomes clear, our media will cover it a bit more... especially since earthquakes with this many casualties usually make the front page, but there’s been nothing in France.
So here’s a thought for this country, which, whatever you think of its politics, is a true jewel of South America, both for its landscapes and its people.
hi there
I’d like to invite you to discover my coastal province in central Vietnam: Quang Ngai.
This year, my province has really improved its infrastructure—mountains, countryside, and sea are all authentic here.
No harassers or thieves, and no Russians either.
A local lunch costs around 1 €.
A *** hotel room is about 25 €, and you can find hotels right on My Khe Beach.
We have a specialty: *banh xeo*—10 crepes for just 1.5 €.
You can rent motorbikes to explore the province and maybe visit the many ethnic minorities.
I live here—I’m not selling anything, but I can help if needed (my father-in-law is a traditional Vietnamese doctor and he’s very skilled).
Hi everyone! 😉
I’m Typhaine, 35 years old. Five years ago, I left France for a solo round-the-world trip—no planes, just a van, hitchhiking, cycling, and even a canoe in the Amazon! Today, I work as a naturalist guide in Argentine Patagonia.
Wherever I go, my compass stays the same: observing and photographing wildlife, which I deeply admire and respect.
My project: I’d love to share this experience through a sustainable, authentic, and immersive nature tourism initiative. But to build something meaningful, I need to understand how other nature enthusiasts experience their own adventures.
If you:
Are over 20 years old
Have a true passion for Nature
Have already taken at least one trip lasting more than 3 nights (in your country or abroad) in your life
Promise: I’m not selling anything, this isn’t marketing. Your answers are 100% anonymous and will only help me shape this wild project.
A huge thank you to everyone for your help and kindness! Looking forward to chatting in this thread 😛
(Dear admins, this is purely a collaborative effort for my project study, with no commercial purpose. Thank you so much for your support!)
Photo: Grizzly Bear (Ursus arctos horribilis), female on the left and her cub on the right. Photo taken by me in Alaska, Denali National Park.
It’s something we often notice in this forum—and many others—this behavioral shift.
A long-time member, or even a new one, asks a question.
They get one or more answers, some brief, some detailed, and then... nothing???
Not even a simple thank you!!!
From what I’ve gathered, if the answers don’t align with what they wanted to hear, it seems natural for the asker to just disappear!! 😕
Unless—(and I fear this is the case)—basic politeness is no longer part of our society????
I spent 3 weeks in Bali last summer (+ 3 nights on Gili Meno and a day trip to Kawah Ijen in Java). So I wanted to see what ChatGPT could suggest for comparison...
Here’s the prompt I gave:
"You’re a local expert guide for Bali.
- Plan a 20-day itinerary for Bali with a side trip to Gili Meno and a day trip to Kawah Ijen in Java without staying overnight.
- I’m traveling with my wife, and I love visiting historical sites, hiking, relaxing at the beach, snorkeling, and exploring rice terraces...
- For the duration of the stay, I don’t want more than 8 places to sleep, and I’d like to stay at least 2 days at each stop to avoid unpacking too often. Except for the last night, where I’m okay with just one night near the airport.
- I prefer neighborhoods that are walkable and try to avoid typical tourist traps, though I don’t want to miss the must-see spots. So suggest a mix of iconic sites and hidden gems.
- Recommend hotels or guesthouses with a budget of 50 to 100 € per night, including breakfast. Make suggestions in areas popular with travelers, specifying the vibe (I prefer quiet), and consider safety and proximity to attractions.
- For lunch and dinner, suggest two to three restaurants that are well-rated by customers.
- Give me a day-by-day program with details on travel times, visiting times for each point of interest, and recommendations for transportation (taxi, train, bike, etc.).
Estimate the total cost of the trip, including accommodations, food, transportation, and activities, and suggest two tips for saving money in each category.
- Don’t make anything up—be realistic about travel times, take into account the opening dates and hours of sites, and give me the entry fees for places to visit.
- Ask me all the questions until you’re 95% sure you understand what’s being asked. Don’t generate your response until you’ve understood."
The AI asked for a few clarifications:
"Great request—I can build you a really optimized and enjoyable itinerary, but to be 95% sure I hit the mark, I need a few key clarifications (this will really influence the pace, areas, and accommodations)."
In the end, it proposed a program very close to what we actually did.
I’ll skip its accommodation and restaurant suggestions...
Its proposal:
"Ubud (4 nights) => we did 5 nights
Sidemen (2 nights)
Amed (3 nights) => we’d planned 2 nights
Gili Meno (3 nights) => we did Gili between Sidemen and Amed
Munduk (3 nights) => we did 2 nights before Pemuteran
Pemuteran (3 nights) with Ijen => we did 4 nights
Sanur (2 nights + 1 last night) => we chose Jatiluwih instead of Sanur
It suggested "activities" (and accommodations too):
IN UBUD:
- Walk around central Ubud (1–2h)
- Campuhan Ridge Walk
- Tegalalang Rice Terrace
- Tirta Empul
- Gunung Kawi
- Massage / market / slow café
IN SIDEMEN:
- Rice terrace hike (2–3h)
- Cooking class
IN AMED:
- Snorkeling
- Japanese Shipwreck
- Beach + relaxation
- Volcano sunset
ON GILI:
- Snorkeling at Gili Meno Turtle Point, Nest Underwater Statues
IN MUNDUK:
- Jungle & waterfall hike - Munduk Waterfall + Melanting Waterfall
- Loop: 3–4h (perfect for your level)
- Ulun Danu Bratan Temple
- Twin Lakes
IN PEMUTERAN
- Snorkeling: Menjangan Island
For Kawah Ijen, it detailed the day well:
👍 from Pemuteran = best possible option
12 PM: leave hotel (we left at 10 PM)
1 PM: ferry
3 PM: arrival in Java + transfer
11 PM: start ascent
2 AM–6 AM: volcano
Return to Bali around 11 AM–12 PM (we got back at 4 PM)
👍 still very intense, but doable with an agency
💰 ~80–120 €/person all-inclusive
IN SANUR:
- Relaxation
- Quiet beach
- Proximity to airport (30 min)"
I’ve kept the habit of blowing my nose in the sink and then washing my hands—a custom I picked up in India. Sometimes, non-travelers are shocked when they catch me in the act... 🤪
Also, when I run out of toilet paper, it doesn’t bother me—unless I’ve got company over... 🤪
Just got back from walking a friend’s dog (while they’re on vacation), wearing a djellaba and Tibetan boots... 😏😏😏 Oh, for sure, if I’d run into locals, I probably would’ve shocked them? 😏
Anyway, as long as I’m not spitting on the floor at a restaurant or squatting on the side of a highway with a water bottle in hand...
After taking a little trip around the world, I came back a few months ago with an idea in mind.
I mostly do diving, and I love observing animals in their natural habitat without disturbing them.
During the trip, I realized it was quite complicated to know where and when to see certain species.
For example:
where to dive with sharks or manta rays
where you might get a chance to swim with whales
I even discovered thresher sharks during my trip… I didn’t even know this species existed before, even though they’re incredible to see.
We spent a ton of time searching for info all over the place, especially on social media, without ever getting a clear picture.
So I started putting all this together on my own, in the form of a map, to make it easier to visualize where to go depending on the seasons.
I recently put a first version online (it’s called Fauneya).
There are probably mistakes, inconsistencies, or things to improve, and that’s partly why I’m posting here.
I’d really love to know how you all go about planning this kind of trip.
As part of my Master’s thesis, I’m currently conducting a public survey on a topic that concerns all of us when planning a trip: artificial intelligence and the role of human contact in travel planning.
These days, we’re using more and more digital tools to find ideas, compare options, and book trips... but is the role of human advisors still essential? At what moments? And for what types of trips?
The survey is anonymous and takes about 7 minutes.
It’s aimed at anyone who travels (or has traveled) for leisure, whether you plan everything yourself or go through an agency.
While browsing the forum to gather info for my upcoming trip to Thailand, I often see the terms "traveler," "great traveler," and also "tourist"—so what’s the nuance for you?
I've traveled quite a bit in Vietnam over the past few years—from the southern delta to bustling cities and even some small islands—but what really sticks with me is the north, the high mountains.
Up there, there's something different—maybe slower, more raw. The morning markets with ethnic groups, women in traditional clothes, the colors...
The stilt houses, kids following you and laughing for no reason, the terraced rice fields—it almost feels unreal at times, so vast and quiet, yet so human and simple.
You often hear that Sapa has become too touristy, and that's partly true, especially in the center. But as soon as you move a little farther away, everything changes quickly. The landscapes open up, encounters feel more natural, and you rediscover something truly authentic.
I think it's that contrast that struck me—the difference between what you imagine before going and what you actually discover when you take the time.
And you—what memory do you hold onto from Vietnam? A particular place that touched you more than others?
Hello,
We’re finalizing the plans for our upcoming trip to China in May 2025. The second-to-last stop will be in Zhangjiajie, where we’ve planned to stay for 2 full days before heading to Shanghai.
We’re traveling solo using local transport and have arranged to stay in the city of Zhangjiajie.
We’ve seen that there’s a lot to see:
Tianmen Mountain, the Grand Canyon and the glass bridge, Zhangjiajie National Park, and that the sites are quite far apart with fairly expensive entry fees.
We’re thinking of dedicating one day to the national park and the Grand Canyon (glass bridge) and one day to Tianmen Mountain.
But we’re not sure if this plan is realistic—any thoughts would be much appreciated!
I should be serving a warming drink to the participants in the discussion about gardens and parks that provide us with beautiful photos, I could mention the delicious buttery scent wafting from bakeries in the thread about returning to France, but my heart, its powerful pulse that nourishes my entire being, is elsewhere.
Dasht-e Lut, Yazd, Esfahan, Bam, Kerman, Qeshm, Hormuz—a melody, a prayer at the heart of desire.
A dream, an unattainable fantasy? No. Not anymore.
A very serious Italian travel agency is organizing this trip for 6 people this winter. I’m signed up, I’m going, I’m living. Maybe.
"But you’re completely crazy!!!!"
I know... I know that every civilization, every society has a vital need to create scapegoats to define and justify itself, pathetically. And Iran is one of them, top of the list. I laugh or sigh, and it doesn’t bother me.
But that unchanging red, deep red and garnet, so beautiful in itself, in all the Western chancelleries repeats, whispers, shouts: don’t go, don’t go, don’t go, you’re putting yourself in danger and we can’t do anything for you. You’ll be turned into mere bargaining chips, into arguments for endless negotiations. Fear must be instilled, its power absolutely preserved, no concessions made to the enemy. The information (how many French hostages, real or fake, compared to the number of travelers?) is always lacking.
Traveling becomes a merciless confrontation between desire, the vital pulse, and anxiety, its ghosts.
Hi everyone, here’s our itinerary. Arriving on the evening of December 13th. Departing on January 7th.
Thanks in advance for your tips and valuable feedback.
Manila – 1 night
Coron – 4 nights
Coron to El Nido cruise – 2 nights
El Nido – 4 nights
Port Barton – 5 nights
Flight from Puerto Princesa to Vigan
Vigan – 2 nights
Sagada – 2 nights
Banaue – 2 nights
Bagabag – 1 night
Manila – 1 night
I’ve only booked the flight to Manila and the Manila/Coron flight so far. Is it possible to book boat trips, accommodations, and the Puerto Princesa flight last-minute?
Really disappointed with Costa Rica! Pura vida? The scam of the century!
(Costa Rica pure emptiness).
The country where animals are free and people are in cages.
3 weeks in December in this country and never again. Imagine the trailer of a movie that seems interesting, and when you go see it, you realize it’s a flop and the best moments were in the trailer.
Well, that’s exactly how we felt with Costa Rica pure emptiness.
My wife and I have traveled quite a bit and didn’t expect to be so wrong about a place.
On the main routes, we visited:
San José
Alajuela
Limón, Cahuita, Puerto Viejo, Manzanillo (Caribbean side)
Jaco, Quepos, Manuel Antonio (Pacific side)
And a few short stops in intermediate towns.
Our dissatisfaction grew gradually like this:
When we arrived at the hotel, the taxi dropped us off on a small street in front of a white metal gate with ground-floor windows barred. We looked at it skeptically, but the sign matched.
He approached the gate, rang the bell, the buzzer sounded, and the door opened slightly. The hotel wasn’t bad for the price, a 10-minute walk from downtown, but with a "Fleury-Mérogis" vibe guaranteed.
So far, so good.
After showering and regaining our bearings, we headed downtown.
What started to unsettle us on the way was seeing houses with bars on the ground-floor windows and even on the second floor.
At first, we thought the hotel’s neighborhood wasn’t great.
Downtown San José:
It’s a generic city, not very exotic, with a pedestrian street and a small mercado where you can eat local food without frills. Very few tourists—if any—which let you blend in with the locals. We had lunch and struggled to make ourselves understood because, aside from one or two shops, English wasn’t spoken.
On the way back to the hotel, we took a different route, and while chatting and strolling, my wife pointed out a beautiful two-story white house completely barricaded like Fort Knox.
From that moment, we started noticing the facades of houses and buildings, and wow, it was creepy—most looked like prisons, some even with barbed wire.
Though put off, we told ourselves it was probably a big-city thing and the rest of the country couldn’t be like this.
So far, so good.
We relaxed at the hotel and had a drink at the bar. Night falls early, around 5:30 PM. By 7:30 PM, we headed back downtown for dinner. A bit unsettling for a capital—downtown was almost deserted, and aside from fast-food chains, very few restaurants were open, with hardly anyone on the streets.
Bars with security guards out front.
I won’t say we felt unsafe that night, but once it got dark, we realized the bars on the windows weren’t for nothing. First day in, and our impression was already mixed.
The next day, we explored the city and surroundings, and our feelings didn’t change.
So far, so good.
Off to Cahuita by bus—4 hours of travel.
The landscapes are very green but quickly become monotonous. The road runs alongside the forest and passes through a few towns and villages, and even in the countryside, there were just as many prison-like houses.
The bus dropped us off at Cahuita’s terminal station—only four of us got off. It’s a village, or rather, a small town. Cahuita is basically one straight road and a perpendicular one, and honestly, doubt started to creep in.
A few restaurants that add 13% tax and 10% service charge—so 23% extra. We dropped our stuff at the hotel and went to explore. In 20 minutes, we’d seen it all. We had lunch and planned to check out the famous park.
Entry is by donation—well, the "entry" is a joke. There’s a path along the forest by the sea, and that’s it.
Nothing’s going right anymore.
We thought it was a total scam, but since we hadn’t gone far, we decided to come back the next day to explore further.
We returned to the hotel, relaxed, and around 8:00 PM, we went out for dinner. Only two restaurants were open, and the streets were deserted.
Creepy!
The next day, we explored the so-called park more thoroughly and really got it.
A path along the forest by the sea—2 hours there and 2 hours back, where you see animals that feel like showing their faces.
A total joke—"all that for this?"
The beach was full of wood debris and coconut husks. We wondered if the photos online were edited because the sea, very rough, wasn’t the azure blue we’d seen in pictures.
But calling this a park is a joke—it’s like a new concept.
When we thought about the reviews online, we started to suspect that professionals with interests in the country were monitoring and countering any negative feedback that could harm their business.
Too bad we didn’t check the negative reviews beforehand—we did while we were there, and it helped. We wondered if we’d become too demanding after all our travels, but no—when something’s bad, it’s bad.
Manuel Antonio’s park is even more ridiculous—there’s a short path along the sea for about 500 meters, and then nothing. You have to climb through mud and hack your way through the forest. We ended up barefoot because the mud was up to our calves. All that to see a raccoon and a few parrots flying overhead.
We didn’t expect Noah’s Ark, but we’ve seen more animals in Bali, Mexico, and Thailand while visiting temples or just walking around than in these so-called parks!
Puerto Viejo, not far from Cahuita and supposedly livelier—well, it couldn’t be worse!
According to Lonely Planet, it had a Caribbean vibe and wild nights, but maybe that was a long time ago. The good reggae music playing everywhere isn’t enough.
In the evening, Puerto Viejo was a bit livelier than Cahuita, but that’s not saying much. Very few tourists—if any—no night market, just two or three shops open selling $20 T-shirts. Same vibe as San José.
No big deal—we enjoyed the beach and the sun, which was reliable.
Our itinerary was supposed to include Tortuguero Park, but after talking to other travelers who’d just been, we changed our minds, knowing we’d be visiting Manuel Antonio Park on the Pacific side.
To get back to the Pacific side, you have to take the bus and go through San José again—5 hours this time—then switch bus terminals and another 4.5 hours to Quepos.
A stopover town to get to Manuel Antonio’s beach and park!
A town just like the others we’d seen—deserted as soon as the sun sets, and not exactly bustling during the day either. (Where are all the tourists?)
Still as many bars on the windows and that feeling of being in the wrong place.
7 km later: Manuel Antonio beach and park.
The beach is very beautiful and quite large, but don’t expect turquoise blue water—the waves stir up the sand, giving the water a brownish color.
Along the beach, shops and restaurants for about 300 meters, and then nothing. At night, after sunset, the town shuts down too.
Manuel Antonio Park is highly praised for its wildlife, so we were eager to see it. When you express dissatisfaction with Cahuita or Manzanillo parks, the response is always, "But you should’ve gone to Monteverde or Manuel Antonio!" No matter what you do or say, they’ll tell you, "You should’ve gone there or here."
Back to our famous park—entry was about $16, and contrary to what we’d heard, it wasn’t crowded!
Guides at the entrance with spotting scopes offered their services for about $30.
The park: a mix of boardwalk and dirt paths through the forest, sometimes running alongside beautiful coves and beaches.
As soon as we entered, a crowd was taking photos of a deer eating leaves.
A little further on, a guide with a group of five stopped. The guide raised his arm and set up his spotting scope! He showed them, about 100 meters away, a hummingbird perched on a branch. Some, looking through the scope, exclaimed, "Oh my God! Amazing! Incredible!"
For a moment, we thought they’d discovered a unicorn or were in Jurassic Park and had just crossed paths with a T-Rex!
The concept is comical—looking at a bird or another animal through a spotting scope because it’s too far away. Isn’t that what TV is for?
For our part, we saw monkeys, ants, an armadillo, an iguana, and the backside of a sloth climbing a tree. Amazing, incredible!
We stayed a few days in Manuel Antonio to enjoy the beach, changing hotels often because prices varied wildly from one day to the next for shameful services. On top of that, they’d quote a price in dollars and convert it at their discretion—thieves!
Alajuela, a city near the airport, has a two-story mall and a local market downtown! No interest except its proximity to the airport.
What we liked:
The climate and, in hindsight, San José—the most authentic city we visited.
What we didn’t like, in addition to what we’ve already mentioned:
Costa Ricans aren’t very friendly or communicative. English is barely spoken, not even by doctors at Quepos Hospital, where my wife ended up with food poisoning (thanks, Google Translate). The widespread obesity among Costa Ricans, who eat like Americans. The insecurity. The eco-hipsters who leave their $150 lodges in minivans with guides to visit parks and other sites, then return to barricade themselves in their fortresses at nightfall (oh my God, amazing, incredible). The blue signs at the entrance of towns that accept this payment method: "We accept American Express." Parking lots that become paid just because a guy is watching your car. Prices displayed in dollars. The cost of living (hotels, restaurants, taxes). Landscapes that are too green and not flowery enough. Beaches—nothing exceptional. Pollution in cities where big American trucks rule. Sewage dumped directly into the sea. Aside from the jungle, there’s nothing to visit—no ruins, monuments, or anything worth seeing.
In short, my wife and I think the hype about this supposedly eco-friendly country is overrated. It’s just the trendy destination of the moment. There are much better, cheaper, and more authentic places.
In hindsight, we keep the good memories and our beautiful photos, but if we had to do it over...
Before signing off, a little message to those who don’t like hearing opinions different from theirs:
Well, some things aren’t up for debate. And to those who’d have us believe that in 3 weeks, we don’t have the right to criticize a country or express our feelings—how can you praise it in so little time? What a scam. Costa Rica is a money pit. Pura vida? Pure cosmic emptiness.
If you like spending your evenings barricaded in your cozy hotel after dark, this country is for you.
For everyone else: run!
Hello,
Since the war between Russia and Ukraine, nothing is simple anymore for traveling to Belarus due to sanctions.
No more direct flights from the EU to Minsk.
Driving is a huge hassle, especially crossing through Poland at the only open border in Brest—you can wait 2, 3, or even 4 days just to get through by car.
The least painful driving option is to come via Lithuania and cross at the only open border, with a minimum wait time of 8 hours, sometimes up to 20 hours or more!!
Controls are very strict and annoying on both the Lithuanian and Belarusian sides. Avoid bringing alcohol, food, or cigarettes—everything will end up in the trash, especially when leaving Belarus for Vilnius, where the Lithuanians are tough, even with EU citizens.
The joy I once knew when visiting my wife in Minsk is sadly over—it’s now a real ordeal.
The fastest solution is to fly. My wife travels to France by taking a bus to Kaunas in Lithuania, where you can catch a flight (though not daily) to Paris Beauvais or Charleroi in Belgium with Ryanair, for example.
For the return trip, it’s the same: a flight to Kaunas and then a direct bus from the airport to Minsk.
The bus crossing is quicker than driving—the 250 km journey, including border checks, takes about 6 to 8 hours for buses leaving Lithuania around midnight, but controls are still strict at the border.
The biggest challenge is finding flight schedules that align with the bus routes between the two countries, given the unpredictable border crossing times.
Now, my wife travels via Charleroi in Belgium (near Brussels), and you can take a train to Paris. Alternatively, you can fly into Beauvais and take a bus to Paris (Porte Maillot).
For those driving, note that EU insurance and assistance policies no longer work in Belarus or Russia. You’ll need to get local insurance, usually limited to third-party liability (I don’t think full coverage exists?), as well as mandatory medical insurance. This is available at the border.
You now have to pay highway tolls—no more BELTOLL boxes. Instead, you pay a flat fee for the duration of your stay. Stop at the first gas station after crossing from Lithuania to fill up on fuel and cigarettes.
From what I know, Lithuania bans carrying more than 60 € in cash, but there’s no limit for USD (though it’s capped at $10,000??).
With a Visa card, you can now withdraw 1,000 rubles per week (about 270 €)—two months ago, it was only 500 rubles!!
For now, you can still pay by card in shops and gas stations.
However, major retailers like KORONA (which may be Russian-owned??) no longer accept foreign Visa cards.
Unfortunately, the additional sanctions announced by the U.S. on August 5, 2025, against Russia—and possibly Belarus—aren’t promising for the future.
After 20 years of visiting Belarus, I’m truly saddened to see the joy of living in this country with my wonderful wife turn into such a bleak situation, all because of human folly.
Hi everyone!
I’m putting together our travel itinerary for Veneto at the end of April. And the more I look and research potential sites to visit, the more I find!
We’ll only be there for a week—my family and I—including 3 days in Venice. So we have to make some choices...
I plan to rent a car when we arrive in Venice and head straight to Bergamo, which would be our first stop. We’d leave the car at the airport when we return to Venice so we can explore the city at our leisure.
What do you think:
1 night in Bergamo (a 2h15 drive from Venice airport),
1 night in Garda,
1 night in Verona,
1 in Padua, and
3 in Venice—would that be doable?
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences! :)
Now that the curtain has fallen on the past year, it’s time to see what’s happening around here.
It seems pretty quiet, but I’ll read more in detail later.
First, I need to tell you all an anecdote.
My eldest little girl, in her third year of law school, was really scared she wouldn’t pass the year.
I told her:
“Trust yourself, you’ve worked so hard, and worst case, if you fail, you’ll just redo the year.”
“But I don’t think I’ll make it—they changed the rules, and if I mess up even one unit, I have to start all over.”
I knew her grades weren’t exactly stellar, and with what I was about to say, I wasn’t taking much of a risk.
“Here’s the deal, sweetheart: if you pass, I promise I’ll take you to India, just the two of us.”
I have to admit, India is a country I’ve talked about so much to all my grandchildren that in their minds, it’s become a magical, mythical place (hmm).
July had barely begun when my phone rang, her name flashing on the screen.
“Mamido, I did it!”
My promise came rushing back—oh no, oh no, oh no!
“Congratulations, sweetheart!”
A little shyly, she said:
“Is the India trip still on?”
And me, replying:
“Of course it is!”
And that’s that—a promise is a promise, or you risk losing that precious trust that keeps hearts warm and at peace.
We’re leaving in February. Only 8 days—yikes, the carbon footprint!
But we can’t miss her tutorials, or she’ll be kicked out.
Personally, that works just fine for me.
Going to India has become a challenge for me. It’s far, it’s exhausting, I sweat, I hate mosquitoes, the spices bother my mouth when I used to love them. There’s noise all the time—at night, the dogs bark nonstop, and we almost get run over. I’ll get lost in the streets because my sense of direction has vanished. I don’t like rice anymore. All that chaos and those cultural differences that once enchanted me now just overwhelm me.
But I promised.
The upside—and it’s a big one—Raman, the same driver I’ve had forever, will be at the airport with a sign with our names. We’ll stop at the same little shop for chai (or tea, plain and simple) with that aroma that intoxicates me, halfway through the trip.
It’ll be a tiny trip—staying with friends, I’ll show her a few places I love: Chidambaram, Mamallapuram, and the clinic where I worked. Then we’ll head back.
My little girl will go home to her parents.
As for me, I’ll leave right away for our Scottish island with Homme for our chilly winter.
How can you love a country so much you want to live there, then suddenly reject it, no longer able to appreciate what once made it special?
That’s the mystery of love, I guess.
I’ve visited the U.S. four times myself, including two long road trips. The last one was just this past August...
I won’t be going back. I already felt guilty last August, but recent policies have finally convinced me: the humiliation of Zelensky, authoritarian excesses, Gestapo-like methods for detaining people of foreign origin, the murder of innocent people (a mother shot dead), corruption, insane "tariffs," skyrocketing healthcare costs for Americans, the abduction of foreign figures to secure oil, the requirement to disclose social media accounts, and now... threats and blackmail to forcibly take Greenland—a region that belongs to Denmark and thus the European Union!
The reality is that simply posting this could get me denied entry to the U.S.!
In this context, I just can’t keep spending money there. I loved my trips, but there are so many other countries with stunning landscapes to explore.
So I get why you’d want to travel there. I did, and I loved it. But once a country no longer respects any of the values that made us love it, why go?
How can we even consider traveling to a country that threatens to take one of our territories by force?
Hello everyone,
Controversial topic? Not necessarily—maybe just a reflection on a world to come.
I spent the last 15 days of August on a cruise in Greenland, from Kangerlussuaq to Tasiilaq.
I was utterly amazed by this unique world of rock and ice, the little houses in every color, a simple life that’s also complicated by isolation and climate, among other things...
I carry in my heart the kindness of the people I met, the raw and gentle majesty of the icebergs, the colors of the sky...
So, I can’t even imagine a massive presence of raw material prospectors, heavy machinery requiring roads to be built—if that’s even possible—changing their way of life... putting sled dogs out to pasture!
Do fast food and Greenland’s northern lights really mix?
I wouldn’t trade my memories for an ESTA!
All opinions are respectable, which is why this isn’t a controversy—but I’m sorry, I have a soft spot for *my* Greenland.
We’re a couple aged 58 and 63. We’ve just returned from a wonderful trip to South India in Tamil Nadu and a few days in Kerala. We traveled with a local French-speaking guide and his friend, the driver. They both live in Pondicherry. We spent 3 weeks with them in the most authentic way!
We covered just over 2,500 km and visited not only temples but also archaeological sites, museums, and small artisanal businesses making tiles, tea, sculptures, bronze, and silk spinning. We were lucky enough to visit a public school, attend a wedding, and even a death announcement in a small countryside village. We were fully immersed in the culture, food, noise, and colors—it was incredible!
The hotels and guesthouses we chose were very clean and mostly quiet. We’re returning from India with amazing discoveries!
We’re happy to share more info if you’d like!
M-Claire and Jean
This catchy and somewhat mysterious title comes from several questions I’ve been asking myself.
VF has been back open for a reasonable number of weeks and months now.
The number of visitors overall matches past averages, but the number of members online in the last 24 hours seems relatively lower than what we used to see.
Yet, to my surprise, I’m seeing fewer travel journals, way fewer messages, and way fewer questions.
I don’t see many new registered users online, and I notice a number of members who are logged in but either aren’t participating or have stopped participating.
Something’s not adding up for me because, in my opinion, VF is still appealing, and I don’t see which other sites could really compete.
Was there a real break between pre- and post-Covid?
Does it just take more time for some people to discover the site or learn that it’s active again?
Do people now prefer quick consumption on sites like FB or others I’m not familiar with?
Where have the site’s old-timers gone, and what are they doing with their time now?
What’s really going on here?
This isn’t exactly a traveler’s question... I’d like to know who handles the technical side of this forum?
I run a similar forum on a different topic (unrecognized children), and we’re dealing with a few technical issues that are slowly killing our forum... so I’d have one or two questions to ask 😊.
Also, I was wondering who created this forum... who the administrators or moderators are, etc.
I think this forum is great. Much better than Facebook, which I’ve been using since it shut down (so I’m happy to see it’s working again...)
Hi there, I’ve been traveling for 18 years now, at least 6 months a year, and as the years go by, I actually enjoy coming back to France more and more—a feeling I struggled with at first. I mean, we always think the grass is greener elsewhere.
But in the end, I find meaning in that saying about how there’s no place like home. I still love traveling just as much, but now my trips are shorter, and I enjoy spending more time in our beautiful country, even though I don’t hesitate to criticize it.
How about you? How do you handle coming back from your travels?
A few years ago, I went with a group of friends to lend a hand at a small rural school near Thiès, Senegal.
It was a relaxed but hardworking atmosphere—hands in the mortar, laughter, exchanges, and everything that a COOPERATION project can bring.
Today, the little project is flying on its own.
Wanting to explore Senegal’s riches, we set off for some tourism in the Siné Saloum. One girl in our group fell ill (a malaria attack), and we decided to take her to see a doctor at a large tourist complex nearby. Despite her condition, we had to "show our credentials" (if I may say so) just to get in. She was treated and has been fine since.
This "stop" at a Club Med-style resort with a Teutonic twist—resembling Le Grau-du-Roi but fancier—was a horror show for us: pools, massive artificial basins dyed blue, pink, or green (!!!!), animators shouting around wet T-shirt contests or coconut tree climbing, and sunburned (or sun-pinked) *toubabs*.
The entire hotel was surrounded by a huge wall, behind which a small souvenir-seller slum had sprung up, worthy of Dakar’s outer neighborhoods.
On leaving, we saw a minibus of guests returning from an "excursion," loaded with masks, fabrics, and djembés—African souvenirs?
Maybe those will be *theirs*?
What impression did the kids clustered at the hotel gates get?
What about the Black servers in "traditional African costumes," serving cocktails and ice cream nonstop?
For me, who experienced Africa very young and in the bush, this remains a haunting image.
On VF, this kind of vacation doesn’t seem to be the norm among users, and that’s exactly why I signed up.
Have you ever experienced this kind of interstellar travel?
Do you understand the Martians?
Are their motivations peaceful?
I’ve been wondering: Is it still reasonable to rent a car in the U.S.?
Apparently, since early January 2025—and very quietly—the most important insurance coverage, namely the driver’s civil liability, has seen its coverage amount drop from $1 million to just $300,000. This coverage is supposed to protect us from damages we might be responsible for while driving. We can go decades without a single scrape (especially if it’s our fault), but anything can happen in a split second. A motorcycle appearing out of nowhere, a misjudgment at one of those huge intersections with staggered traffic lights, and suddenly we could be deemed at fault for the accident. We’d then have to pay out of pocket for the other party’s medical expenses. Given what hospitals charge... it can easily exceed $300,000 and turn into a nightmare in no time!!! Plus, anyone who’s driven on American roads has seen those billboards for lawyers offering their services to accident victims. So on top of the sky-high medical bill, the lawyer will demand compensation worthy of a Hollywood movie!!!! So, is it even worth getting behind the wheel in America anymore? Well... that’s just my take! And on top of that, I haven’t found any insurance company that offers such high civil liability coverage. Chapka and others do offer coverage in the millions, but motor vehicles are excluded.... So here’s the thing... Unless I’ve "missed something," I’ve come to this conclusion: Renting a car in the U.S. is like playing Russian roulette! But maybe I’m being too pessimistic? What do you think?
My two bullfighting traditions when I'm back home in Camargue (France) and in Colombia (Caribbean) every time I return. 🤠
Details:
Bullfights (corridas) aren’t part of my two bullfighting traditions, but I respect those who attend them!!!
In these two ancestral bullfighting traditions—which aren’t bullfights—the Bulls and Toros aren’t killed or tortured, as some might think.
These are bull games where the animals return to their pastures afterward and only come back to the Arenas 2–3 times a year at most.
They spend 15 minutes in the ring for the Camarguais and 5 minutes for the Toros in the Colombian Corralejas.
They’re cared for and pampered. They’ll die of old age in miles of open fields.
The young people who face them are professionals, risking their lives to support their families and live their Passion for the Toro!!! 😄
https://youtu.be/yYKQer42HoQ
Colombian Corraleja in the link below (hope it works) 🤪
https://fb.watch/BMfmuCgQpG/