Randonnées dans le Péloponèse et dans la Grèce orientale
by Arnauld
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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POUVEZ-VOUS ME DONNER DES RENSEIGNEMENTS SUR LES RANDONNEES SYMPATHIQUES DANS LE PELOPONESE ET DANS LA GRECE CONTINENTALE . MERCI D'AVANCE .
Je connais une super rando, mais c'est dans une île du Nord de la Grèce, Samothrace...
Ben
bonjour arnaud.
Nous nous sommes balladés sur les pentes du Mont Olympe mais nous ne sommes pas allés au sommet (trop long pour nous. c'était à la Toussaint et il faisait qd même très chaud alors en été...
En tout cas, belle balade avec paysage plus vert qu'ailleurs (grâce à l'altitude). Nous avions dormi avec le camping-car sur le parking au pied du mont Olympe. calmissime. Par contre qd nous sommes redescendus à la mi-journée : la foule!! Donc partir de bonne heure.
Nous nous sommes aussi balladés dans les Météores. Dommage, la base des monastères est jonchée de déchets. Qd tu veux t'éloigner des sentiers les + fréquentés, ça pique, ça griffe, difficile de progresser. Mais c'est qd même magnifique. Marie
Nous nous sommes aussi balladés dans les Météores. Dommage, la base des monastères est jonchée de déchets. Qd tu veux t'éloigner des sentiers les + fréquentés, ça pique, ça griffe, difficile de progresser. Mais c'est qd même magnifique. Marie
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salut,
je suis deja allé 7 fois en grèce dont 4 fois en camping car.
si vous partez 7 semaines, même en comptant le trajet aller et le trajet retour, c'est suffisant.
je vous conseille de rajouter à votre parcours Delphes, Ossio Loukas, qui sont sur votre route (après Athènes). Puis en allant à Igoumenitsa, il y a beaucoup d'endroits intéressants autour de Ioannina, notamment le site de Dodone. ce coin est peu touristique.
ciao
je suis deja allé 7 fois en grèce dont 4 fois en camping car.
si vous partez 7 semaines, même en comptant le trajet aller et le trajet retour, c'est suffisant.
je vous conseille de rajouter à votre parcours Delphes, Ossio Loukas, qui sont sur votre route (après Athènes). Puis en allant à Igoumenitsa, il y a beaucoup d'endroits intéressants autour de Ioannina, notamment le site de Dodone. ce coin est peu touristique.
ciao
Ben
Bonjour,
Il y a effectivement de belles randonnées à faire dans les Météores (si possible éviter la foule estivale) mais nous avons eu un vrai coup de coeur pour le massif du Taygète (près de Sparte), des sentiers balisés partent de Mystra, la belle citée fortifiée, ils vont de quelques heures à quelques jours. Il y a quelques photos sur notre site (des météores aussi) dans la partie "sites naturels". Bonne balade !
Il y a effectivement de belles randonnées à faire dans les Météores (si possible éviter la foule estivale) mais nous avons eu un vrai coup de coeur pour le massif du Taygète (près de Sparte), des sentiers balisés partent de Mystra, la belle citée fortifiée, ils vont de quelques heures à quelques jours. Il y a quelques photos sur notre site (des météores aussi) dans la partie "sites naturels". Bonne balade !
nous avons visité "par hasard " ossios loukos et c'est vrai que l'endroit (un monastère) est charmant. Dodone est situé pas loin d'Igoumenitsa si je me rappelle bien: en effet, ce n'est pas la foule et le site (avec un bel amphithéâtre) est très champêtre.
7 semaines me paraissent largement suffisantes pour ce projet.
Il faudra aussi évidemment profiter de la mer. Il doit qd même y avoir du monde en été. A la Toussaint, nous étions quasi seuls: nuit au bord de la plage, veillée autour du feu sur la plage, quasi aucune barrière anti-camping-cars (en tout cas hors-saison).
A+
Je suppose que vous traversez l'Adriatique sur un ferry. Il existe une compagnie (Euromer????) qui autorise la traversée à bord du c car. On est comme chez soir avec la vue sur la mer (et un raccordement électrique). Nous avions pris le bateau à Ancône le samedi vers midi et sommes arrivés frais et dispos le dimanche matin à Igoumenitsa.
A+
Marie
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En 2002 on a fait de même sur Strinzis lines, la fenetre laterale de notre camping car donnait sur...la mer ! c'est la formule ''open deck''.
On est parti de brindisi, car plus on descend en italie, moins c'est cher (ancone et bari, où on s'est arrete, sont bp + cher).
Je suis étonné, arnaud, que vous arriviez à patras et que vous repartiez d'igoumenitsas, je croyais que c'etait impossible, avec reservation, en tout cas.
Je suis étonné, arnaud, que vous arriviez à patras et que vous repartiez d'igoumenitsas, je croyais que c'etait impossible, avec reservation, en tout cas.
Ben
Avec la Cie que nous avions utilisée, c'était possible tout en réservant du moins au départ d'Ancône. En fait nous sommes partis le vendredi soir de Nancy et sommes arrivés le dimanche matin en Grèce. C'est super non?
Marie
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Pas du tout.
en général, c'est moi qui conduis le plus. J'adore ça et ça m'évite de faire des commentaires sur la conduite dudit mari!!!
MariE
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En fait je me suis trompé en écrivant, je voulais dire que c'est Marie qui conduit tout le temps !! 😉
Ben
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Marie
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Tu vois que je suis plus douée au volant qu'avec un clavier! 😊
J'aurais du relire mon message!!
Marie
PS ; ça y est, j'ai trouvé comment mettre des icônes.
C'est celle-la que je voulais mettre: 😉
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Moi aussi, j'aime bien voyager et conduire.
J'ai passé mon permis de conduire il y a 1 an 1/2 (à 28 ans), uniquement dans le but de voyager ! Pour un urbain, une voiture est inutile, mais pour voyager en France et en Europe, c'est presque nécessaire ! En partant en voiture, on se rend compte des distances, des changerments de climat, de paysages, du passage d'un pays à l'autre, on a une progression, alors qu'en avion ! Jusqu'à présent, je suis allé jusqu'à Maastricht, Prague et vaduz, en voiture. Mais ce n'est qu'un début ! En tout cas, je ne suis pas pressé de conduire un char d'assaut (camping-car), sauf s'il s'agit d'un Westphalia, comme celui de mes parents.
J'ai passé mon permis de conduire il y a 1 an 1/2 (à 28 ans), uniquement dans le but de voyager ! Pour un urbain, une voiture est inutile, mais pour voyager en France et en Europe, c'est presque nécessaire ! En partant en voiture, on se rend compte des distances, des changerments de climat, de paysages, du passage d'un pays à l'autre, on a une progression, alors qu'en avion ! Jusqu'à présent, je suis allé jusqu'à Maastricht, Prague et vaduz, en voiture. Mais ce n'est qu'un début ! En tout cas, je ne suis pas pressé de conduire un char d'assaut (camping-car), sauf s'il s'agit d'un Westphalia, comme celui de mes parents.
Ben
Tout à fait d'accord avec toi : on perçoit mieux l'Europe en la parcourant au ras du bitume que dans les airs; En plus, à 5, ça revient bien moins cher.
C'est vrai que le format camping car ne passe pas partout. C'est idéal pour des voyages nature, pas pour la ville c'est clair (particulièrement dans les pays méditéranéens où les rues sont plus étroites que partout ailleurs).
Marie
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Souhaitant faire de la randonnée sur cette île, je voudrais d'abord savoir quelle serait la période la plus favorable sachant que j'avais passé quelques jours en novembre 2018 pas pour cette activité mais plus pour une simple découverte de l'île et le temps n'était pas top notamment en montagne. Donc peut on choisir une organisation en étoile sachant que je louerai un véhicule avec éventuellement 2 points d'hébergement.
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Aichatou
Hi there,
I’ve been wanting to do this for several years, and this year’s the one. Next September, I’ll be trekking in Tusheti (Georgia), from Omalo to Shatili. Of course, I won’t be renting a vehicle that’d just sit unused. No problem getting to Pshaveli, but from there to Omalo, it’s a dirt road (still the case?) There must be some form of public transport since there are so many guesthouses, and not all travelers come in a 4x4. If any of you have been to Omalo, could you confirm that these shared transports exist and how often they run?
I’ve been wanting to do this for several years, and this year’s the one. Next September, I’ll be trekking in Tusheti (Georgia), from Omalo to Shatili. Of course, I won’t be renting a vehicle that’d just sit unused. No problem getting to Pshaveli, but from there to Omalo, it’s a dirt road (still the case?) There must be some form of public transport since there are so many guesthouses, and not all travelers come in a 4x4. If any of you have been to Omalo, could you confirm that these shared transports exist and how often they run?
hi
we’re planning a trip to Yellowstone and hoping to do a three-day backcountry hike if we get a permit. if any of you have done this before, could you let me know if it’s possible to find water along the way? And if we can transport it, are we allowed to use a stove?
thanks for any tips!
sandra
we’re planning a trip to Yellowstone and hoping to do a three-day backcountry hike if we get a permit. if any of you have done this before, could you let me know if it’s possible to find water along the way? And if we can transport it, are we allowed to use a stove?
thanks for any tips!
sandra
Hello,
I’ll be in Nepal from March 6th to 29th (we’re flying into Kathmandu via Varanasi and leaving via Delhi).
I’m a bit confused about the regulations requiring a guide.
My wife and I (we’re 63 and 64) aren’t experienced trekkers—we’re more used to walking on terrain with very moderate elevation changes. I’m looking for fairly easy hikes, possibly day trips. Here are my questions: - Does the Poon Hill trek from Pokhara require a guide, or is it better to go through a local agency? (I’ve seen a lot of them offering 4-day packages) - I’d like to do a few multi-day hikes around Jomsom (Kagbeni, Mukitinath, Lupra, Marpha)... Do you need a guide for those, and can you find accommodations easily without booking in advance?
Last question—I’m really hesitant to lug around a sleeping bag or down jacket during our 6 weeks in India. Can you easily find these kinds of items at reasonable prices in Pokhara?
Thanks in advance for any tips you can share! Yann
My wife and I (we’re 63 and 64) aren’t experienced trekkers—we’re more used to walking on terrain with very moderate elevation changes. I’m looking for fairly easy hikes, possibly day trips. Here are my questions: - Does the Poon Hill trek from Pokhara require a guide, or is it better to go through a local agency? (I’ve seen a lot of them offering 4-day packages) - I’d like to do a few multi-day hikes around Jomsom (Kagbeni, Mukitinath, Lupra, Marpha)... Do you need a guide for those, and can you find accommodations easily without booking in advance?
Last question—I’m really hesitant to lug around a sleeping bag or down jacket during our 6 weeks in India. Can you easily find these kinds of items at reasonable prices in Pokhara?
Thanks in advance for any tips you can share! Yann





