Red Rock & Slide Rock State Park à Sedona
by Fredo2382
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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hello
j'aimerai savoir si le Pass America Beautiful est accepté à Red Rock SP et à Slide Rock SP vers Sedona ?
car sur leur site, rien n'est mentionné :
http://azstateparks.com/Parks/SLRO/
http://azstateparks.com/Parks/RERO/
Merci 😉
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Vous trouverez sur ce lien une carte où vous aurez tous les parcs visitables avec le pass. Les States parks ne sont pas inclus dans le pass des parcs nationaux et ce depuis toujours. Bon voyage et vers Sedona c'est magnifique. Gérard
https://www.nps.gov/findapark/index.htm
Vous trouverez sur ce lien une carte où vous aurez tous les parcs visitables avec le pass. Les States parks ne sont pas inclus dans le pass des parcs nationaux et ce depuis toujours. Bon voyage et vers Sedona c'est magnifique. Gérard
https://www.nps.gov/findapark/index.htm
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Regarde sur le pièce jointe, sur le guide ils disent que le Pass America Beautiful est accepté à Red Rock State Park vers Sedona mais j'ai un gros doute sur la fiabilité de cette info car sur le site officiel ils ne parlent à aucun moment du Pass Beautiful.
Et sinon, pour ton lien, j'avais justement regardé mais ils semblerait que ce ne soit pas exhaustif car à titre d'exemple : à Red Rock dans le Nevada (le Red Rock Canyon) n'est pas listé sur ce site alors que le Pass America Beautiful est accepté...🤪
www.redrockcanyonlv.org/redrockcanyon/fees/
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Bonjour,
C'est en effet une erreur, car le pass America the Beautiful est valable uniquement pour les sites et les monuments nationaux (en gros tous les sites où tu as le mot "national" dans le nom : national park, national recreation area, national conservation area, national monument, etc...)
Les State Parks dépendent, comme leur nom l'indique, quant à eux des états (donc dans ce cas précis de l'état de l'Arizona). Le guide en question a dû tout mélanger car la région de Sedona reste un peu "à part". Pour randonner ou visiter certains secteurs un pass appelé "Red Rock Pass" est exigé (5$ par jour et par véhicule, à laisser sur la pare-brise au départ des randos). Mais, pour ces sites-là, si tu possèdes déjà le pass des parcs nationaux America the Beautiful, tu n'as pas besoin d'acheter le Red Rock Pass, il s'agit en fait de sites dépendant du service national des forêts) :
www.fs.usda.gov/...207#PassRequirements
Tu trouveras une brochure sur le site officiel du Red Rock Country, avec une carte où tous les sites sont indiqués : www.fs.usda.gov/...S/stelprd3806979.pdf La carte est mieux présentée ici : - www.fs.usda.gov/.../stelprdb5416228.jpg - redrockscenicbyway.com/...ino_forest_guide.pdf
C'est en effet une erreur, car le pass America the Beautiful est valable uniquement pour les sites et les monuments nationaux (en gros tous les sites où tu as le mot "national" dans le nom : national park, national recreation area, national conservation area, national monument, etc...)
Les State Parks dépendent, comme leur nom l'indique, quant à eux des états (donc dans ce cas précis de l'état de l'Arizona). Le guide en question a dû tout mélanger car la région de Sedona reste un peu "à part". Pour randonner ou visiter certains secteurs un pass appelé "Red Rock Pass" est exigé (5$ par jour et par véhicule, à laisser sur la pare-brise au départ des randos). Mais, pour ces sites-là, si tu possèdes déjà le pass des parcs nationaux America the Beautiful, tu n'as pas besoin d'acheter le Red Rock Pass, il s'agit en fait de sites dépendant du service national des forêts) :
www.fs.usda.gov/...207#PassRequirements
Tu trouveras une brochure sur le site officiel du Red Rock Country, avec une carte où tous les sites sont indiqués : www.fs.usda.gov/...S/stelprd3806979.pdf La carte est mieux présentée ici : - www.fs.usda.gov/.../stelprdb5416228.jpg - redrockscenicbyway.com/...ino_forest_guide.pdf
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Bonjour
Ben oui et non, y a des exceptions... L' America Beautiful Pass est valable à Sedona dans la majorité des sites, exceptés ( à ma connaissance) - Slide Rock SP - Crescent Moon Ranch mais on peut acceder à la vue sur Cathedral Rock, gratuitement, de l'autre côté du cours d'eau, en passant par Oak Creek Village ( avec une petite piste en terre) - Oak Creek Canyon
C'est ce que j'avais compris lorsque j'avais cherché ce renseignement ( le lien que tu donnes) www.fs.usda.gov/...S/stelprd3806979.pdf The following passes are valid in place of the Red Rock Pass and are available at all Forest Service offices, Sedona Chamber of Commerce, (annual only) and Oak Creek Vista (seasonal). Federal Interagency Annual Pass .................$80.00
Et c'est ce à quoi je me suis fié en 3 séjours à Sedona...... A moins que je n'ai eu beaucoup de chance .... 😎😎😎
Blague à part: ne pas oublier, lorsqu'on accroche le Pass de le mettre face visible du côté de la date de validité...
Bon séjour, Sedona est un des plus beaux endroits de l'Ouest; en plus on y mange très bien.
Alain
Ben oui et non, y a des exceptions... L' America Beautiful Pass est valable à Sedona dans la majorité des sites, exceptés ( à ma connaissance) - Slide Rock SP - Crescent Moon Ranch mais on peut acceder à la vue sur Cathedral Rock, gratuitement, de l'autre côté du cours d'eau, en passant par Oak Creek Village ( avec une petite piste en terre) - Oak Creek Canyon
C'est ce que j'avais compris lorsque j'avais cherché ce renseignement ( le lien que tu donnes) www.fs.usda.gov/...S/stelprd3806979.pdf The following passes are valid in place of the Red Rock Pass and are available at all Forest Service offices, Sedona Chamber of Commerce, (annual only) and Oak Creek Vista (seasonal). Federal Interagency Annual Pass .................$80.00
Et c'est ce à quoi je me suis fié en 3 séjours à Sedona...... A moins que je n'ai eu beaucoup de chance .... 😎😎😎
Blague à part: ne pas oublier, lorsqu'on accroche le Pass de le mettre face visible du côté de la date de validité...
Bon séjour, Sedona est un des plus beaux endroits de l'Ouest; en plus on y mange très bien.
Alain
Merci beaucoup à vous deux pour vos réponses et vos liens :)
Effectivement il y a des confusiosne t des choses qui ne sont pas très claires.
Juste pour être sûr, je viens d'envoyer un mail au département du FS USDA GOV.
Dès que j'ai leur réponse, je reviendrai vers vous
J'ai demandé si le Pass America The Beautiful est valable pour ces endroits cités :
-Bell Rock
-Cathedral Rock
-Airport Road Overlook
-Red Rock State Park
-Crescent Moon (by Ranch Rd)
-Slide Rock State Park
-Oak Creek Canyon Vista
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J'ai demandé si le Pass America The Beautiful est valable pour ces endroits cités :
Slide Rock State Park
Lui, c'est sûr que non. D'ailleurs c'est assez cher l'entrée par rapport à d'autres parcs. L'endroit est sympa en lui-même mais tellement bondé que perso, je n'ai pas apprécié. Et encore, nous y sommes allés juste après un bon orage donc les 2/3 des gens étaient partis ...
http://jeveuxcamperauxusa2.blogspot.fr/p/sedona-grand-falls-coal-mine-canyon-et_1912.html
Lui, c'est sûr que non. D'ailleurs c'est assez cher l'entrée par rapport à d'autres parcs. L'endroit est sympa en lui-même mais tellement bondé que perso, je n'ai pas apprécié. Et encore, nous y sommes allés juste après un bon orage donc les 2/3 des gens étaient partis ...
http://jeveuxcamperauxusa2.blogspot.fr/p/sedona-grand-falls-coal-mine-canyon-et_1912.html
Euh pour les balades des sites principaux autour de Sedona (indépendamment du Slide Rock) nous n'avons rien demandé et rien payé l'été dernier. Bell Rock et Airport Road Overlook en particulier sont accessibles à tous. Bon il est vrai qu'on n'a fait que se promener et pas randonner (mais on a pris les Pink Jeep sur Broken Arrow Trail, c'était fun avec un guide épatant). Bon voyage !
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Hello !
Alors, mon grain de sel. Les State Parks, comme le dit MrsPeel, ne sont pas inclus dans le Pass America the Beautiful. Sur Sedona, il y a souvent la confusion entre la dénomination "Red Rock country" (qui englobe la rétion de Sedona), et le State Park qui se nomme Red Rock State Park (et qui est beaucoup plus limité en termes de superficie).
Voilà la page qui donne les tarifs d'entrée de tous les State Parks d'Arizona. http://azstateparks.com/find/fees.html
Quant au Red Rock Pass, comme indiqué dans les pages du service des forêts, on peut lui substituer le pass annuel des National Parks pour ce qui est de l'usage des parkings dans les zones qui dépendent de sa juridiction. En l'occurrence, le pass America the beautiful est aussi accepté dans certains parcs gérés par le BLM (comme le V-bar-V heritage site) ou par le FS-USDA (quelques autres zones récréatives), car il s'agit d'un pass fédéral : http://www.fs.usda.gov/detail/coconino/recreation/?cid=stelprdb5416207
Il est dit ici : This pass is valid for use as a parking permit to recreate in Red Rock Country including access to Red Rock Country Heritage Sites. It is not valid for the use of other fee areas, developed campgrounds, or these day-use sites operated by private permittee: Grasshopper Point Picnic and Swimming Area, Crescent Moon Day Use Area and Call O' the Canyon (West Fork Trailhead). Any America the Beautiful Interagency Pass, Golden Age, and Golden Access are accepted and honored in lieu of the Red Rock Pass for Forest recreation in Red Rock Country. This also includes admission to the very popular Red Rock Country Heritage Sites: Palatki Ruins and Rock Art site, Honanki Ruins site and V-Bar-V Heritage site. These passes can be purchased at many commercial vendors, government offices and machines throughout the area.
> Les State Parks sont inclus dans le "other fee areas". > Et pour info, le Call o' the Canyon (west fork trailhead) coûte 10 dollars. > Oak Creek Canyon Vista - j'y suis passée, et il me semble que c'était gratuit... en tout cas, rien payé et pas vu de borne de paiement. De toute façon, tu seras vite fixé : ils ne te laisseront pas passer si tu ne t'acquittes pas des droits d'entrée qui vont bien.
Bon préparatifs ! christine
Alors, mon grain de sel. Les State Parks, comme le dit MrsPeel, ne sont pas inclus dans le Pass America the Beautiful. Sur Sedona, il y a souvent la confusion entre la dénomination "Red Rock country" (qui englobe la rétion de Sedona), et le State Park qui se nomme Red Rock State Park (et qui est beaucoup plus limité en termes de superficie).
Voilà la page qui donne les tarifs d'entrée de tous les State Parks d'Arizona. http://azstateparks.com/find/fees.html
Quant au Red Rock Pass, comme indiqué dans les pages du service des forêts, on peut lui substituer le pass annuel des National Parks pour ce qui est de l'usage des parkings dans les zones qui dépendent de sa juridiction. En l'occurrence, le pass America the beautiful est aussi accepté dans certains parcs gérés par le BLM (comme le V-bar-V heritage site) ou par le FS-USDA (quelques autres zones récréatives), car il s'agit d'un pass fédéral : http://www.fs.usda.gov/detail/coconino/recreation/?cid=stelprdb5416207
Il est dit ici : This pass is valid for use as a parking permit to recreate in Red Rock Country including access to Red Rock Country Heritage Sites. It is not valid for the use of other fee areas, developed campgrounds, or these day-use sites operated by private permittee: Grasshopper Point Picnic and Swimming Area, Crescent Moon Day Use Area and Call O' the Canyon (West Fork Trailhead). Any America the Beautiful Interagency Pass, Golden Age, and Golden Access are accepted and honored in lieu of the Red Rock Pass for Forest recreation in Red Rock Country. This also includes admission to the very popular Red Rock Country Heritage Sites: Palatki Ruins and Rock Art site, Honanki Ruins site and V-Bar-V Heritage site. These passes can be purchased at many commercial vendors, government offices and machines throughout the area.
> Les State Parks sont inclus dans le "other fee areas". > Et pour info, le Call o' the Canyon (west fork trailhead) coûte 10 dollars. > Oak Creek Canyon Vista - j'y suis passée, et il me semble que c'était gratuit... en tout cas, rien payé et pas vu de borne de paiement. De toute façon, tu seras vite fixé : ils ne te laisseront pas passer si tu ne t'acquittes pas des droits d'entrée qui vont bien.
Bon préparatifs ! christine
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Oak Creek Canyon est totalement libre. Thanks God ! 😉
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merci pour tes clarifications :)
j'avais lu ça aussi mais j'avais quand même un doute...
mais tu as certainement raison dans tout ce que tu viens de dire !
en tout cas, si j'ai la réponse des rangers par mail, je partagerai l'info ici :)
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voilà comme promis, je vous fais suivre la réponse des rangers de ces parcs 🙂 :
-Bell Rock America the Beautiful OK -Cathedral Rock Amercia America The Beautiful OK -Airport Road Overlook pass not required, Free -Red Rock State Park $7.00 day on site -Crescent Moon (by Ranch Rd $10 day on site -Slide Rock State Park $20 day Mon- Thu or $30 Fri, Sat, Sun. on site -Oak Creek Canyon Vista pass not required, Free
-Bell Rock America the Beautiful OK -Cathedral Rock Amercia America The Beautiful OK -Airport Road Overlook pass not required, Free -Red Rock State Park $7.00 day on site -Crescent Moon (by Ranch Rd $10 day on site -Slide Rock State Park $20 day Mon- Thu or $30 Fri, Sat, Sun. on site -Oak Creek Canyon Vista pass not required, Free
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Merci pour ces infos Frédéric; elles m'aideront dans quelque semaines. Bon voyage à toi.
@ disneydiddl : je t'en prie et ici c'est un excellent site d'entreaide 😏
@ caribou : c'est donc un autre parking alors ? il porte peut être un autre nom, non ?
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Bonjour Frédéric,
Je répète 🙂, c'est vrai que ce n'est pas si simple au 1er abord - Sedona est une "zone grise" dans la clarté générale des fees ou free.
Dans Oak Creek Canyon, le parking pour "faire " la rando de West Fork Trail est payant (10$) .



La pente des berges, bien qu'un peu dure, se prête parfaitement à une sieste réparatrice ( testé en grandeur réelle .... 😎)
L'accès aux autres balades de cet endroit c'est à dire de Thomas Point Trail au sud à Cookstove Trail au nord, est libre et les parkings attenants à chaque trailhead sont gratuits.
Voili, voilou...
Alain
Je répète 🙂, c'est vrai que ce n'est pas si simple au 1er abord - Sedona est une "zone grise" dans la clarté générale des fees ou free.
Dans Oak Creek Canyon, le parking pour "faire " la rando de West Fork Trail est payant (10$) .



La pente des berges, bien qu'un peu dure, se prête parfaitement à une sieste réparatrice ( testé en grandeur réelle .... 😎)
L'accès aux autres balades de cet endroit c'est à dire de Thomas Point Trail au sud à Cookstove Trail au nord, est libre et les parkings attenants à chaque trailhead sont gratuits.
Voili, voilou...
Alain
Merci pour le retour d'info des rangers !
Pour West Fork of Oak Creek, le trailhead se situe au fond du parking de Call o' Canyon. Le stationnement le long de la route est interdit sous peine d'enlèvement du véhicule.
Le parking n'ouvre officiellement qu'à 9h du matin, et en pratique, ça dépend du papy qui tient la guitoune. Impossible de s'y installer : il est fermé par un portail et une chaîne. En mai dernier, il était ouvert à 8h30... entre temps j'étais montée jusqu'à Oak Creek Vista pour tuer le temps, pour une fois que j'étais au trailhead à 7h30, c'était pas de chance !
Pour West Fork of Oak Creek, le trailhead se situe au fond du parking de Call o' Canyon. Le stationnement le long de la route est interdit sous peine d'enlèvement du véhicule.
Le parking n'ouvre officiellement qu'à 9h du matin, et en pratique, ça dépend du papy qui tient la guitoune. Impossible de s'y installer : il est fermé par un portail et une chaîne. En mai dernier, il était ouvert à 8h30... entre temps j'étais montée jusqu'à Oak Creek Vista pour tuer le temps, pour une fois que j'étais au trailhead à 7h30, c'était pas de chance !
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je ne doute pas au regard des photos que c'est un coin sympa à randonner :) Après fait que je vois au niveau du timming.
Et sinon je trouve dommage de vouloir carrément bloquer l'accès au parking en dehors des heures d'ouverture car y a ceux qui aiment bien commencer la rando tôt le matin ou en fin de journée...
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Do you have any tips for a fun and doable itinerary over about 20–25 days with kids, without rushing?
Thanks in advance for your feedback😉
After our first trip as a young couple to the West in 2007 (yes, that doesn’t make us any younger!), we’re planning to go back in 2028, but this time as a family of four! (We have two boys who’ll be 5½ and 13 years old in the summer of 2028.)
Our plan is to combine a few big cities (SF and LA, maybe San Diego) with national parks and state parks, mostly! Ideally, we’d like to leave at the end of June and head back to France around July 19–20, so we can enjoy the first week of the Olympic Games in Los Angeles.
Since we already did the "loop" in 2007, there are must-see places we absolutely want to revisit—and especially share with our kids: Bryce Canyon, Yosemite, and above all, the Grand Canyon, which is still the most incredible thing I’ve ever seen on Earth!
On the other hand, some places didn’t leave a big impression on us for various reasons, so we’re not making them a priority: Antelope Canyon, Monument Valley, for example.
We’re planning ahead, but might as well be smart about it😏
Do you have any tips for a fun and doable itinerary over about 20–25 days with kids, without rushing?
Thanks in advance for your feedback😉
Hi everyone! 🙂
Just a quick question about King Canyon and Sequoia National Park.
Before our night in Miramonte, we plan to visit King Canyon. The next stop will be two nights in Three Rivers to explore Sequoia National Park. I wanted to go all the way to Roaring River Falls on the King Canyon Scenic Byway and then turn back to head to Miramonte. Since we’re coming from Oakhurst, Google Maps says it’s 300 km and 5 hours of driving. Since we also want to hike to see the sequoias (Big Stump Area and Grand Grove) before tackling the King Canyon Scenic Byway, the timing’s going to be tight. How far do you recommend going before turning back to miss as few points of interest as possible on the King Canyon Scenic Byway? Thanks for your advice, and have a great evening!
Marcalamar 🙂
Hi everyone!
After years of hoping, waiting, planning, then changing, saving, and searching for the best possible route... we're FINALLY off this summer for a 5-week road trip in the West.
I had planned a trip to Colorado in 2021 but canceled due to COVID, so with time passing and my eldest’s high school graduation approaching fast, I figured it was now or never!
Anyway, the itinerary has been modified and extended to please everyone (I’m no longer the only one making decisions!!)
Here’s our final route: Day 1 - 7/12/2026 - Brussels / Los Angeles Day 2 - 7/13/2026 - Los Angeles Day 3 - 7/14/2026 - Los Angeles Day 4 - 7/15/2026 - Los Angeles Day 5 - 7/16/2026 - Los Angeles Day 6 - 7/17/2026 - Los Angeles / Kingman Day 7 - 7/18/2026 - Kingman / Grand Canyon Day 8 - 7/19/2026 - Grand Canyon / Page Day 9 - 7/20/2026 - Page Day 10 - 7/21/2026 - Page / Monument Valley Day 11 - 7/22/2026 - Monument Valley / Durango Day 12 - 7/23/2026 - Durango Day 13 - 7/24/2026 - Durango Day 14 - 7/25/2026 - Durango Day 15 - 7/26/2026 - Durango / Glenwood Springs Day 16 - 7/27/2026 - Glenwood Springs Day 17 - 7/28/2026 - Glenwood Springs / Moab Day 18 - 7/29/2026 - Moab Day 19 - 7/30/2026 - Moab Day 20 - 7/31/2026 - Moab Day 21 - 8/1/2026 - Moab Day 22 - 8/2/2026 - Moab / Vernal Day 23 - 8/3/2026 - Vernal / Grand Teton Day 24 - 8/4/2026 - Grand Teton Day 25 - 8/5/2026 - Grand Teton / Cody Day 26 - 8/6/2026 - Cody / Yellowstone Day 27 - 8/7/2026 - Yellowstone Day 28 - 8/8/2026 - Yellowstone Day 29 - 8/9/2026 - Yellowstone Day 30 - 8/10/2026 - Yellowstone / Salt Lake City Day 31 - 8/11/2026 - Salt Lake City / Bryce Canyon Day 32 - 8/12/2026 - Bryce Canyon / Zion Day 33 - 8/13/2026 - Zion Day 34 - 8/14/2026 - Zion Day 35 - 8/15/2026 - Zion / Las Vegas Day 36 - 8/16/2026 - Las Vegas Day 37 - 8/17/2026 - Las Vegas / Los Angeles Day 38 - 8/18/2026 - Los Angeles Day 39 - 8/19/2026 - Los Angeles / Brussels Day 40 - 8/20/2026 - Brussels / Home
We’ll be alternating between house swaps, motels, and campgrounds. I’ve booked all the accommodations (except the campground at Bryce since sunset bookings open only 14 days in advance) and the first activities, as well as the most touristy ones.
I’m currently putting together my day-by-day roadbook and having some trouble planning certain days, like in LA or Las Vegas. Choosing hikes isn’t easy either—it’s tough to decide!
We’re really excited but could definitely use your help with choices and optimizations!!
I had planned a trip to Colorado in 2021 but canceled due to COVID, so with time passing and my eldest’s high school graduation approaching fast, I figured it was now or never!
Anyway, the itinerary has been modified and extended to please everyone (I’m no longer the only one making decisions!!)
Here’s our final route: Day 1 - 7/12/2026 - Brussels / Los Angeles Day 2 - 7/13/2026 - Los Angeles Day 3 - 7/14/2026 - Los Angeles Day 4 - 7/15/2026 - Los Angeles Day 5 - 7/16/2026 - Los Angeles Day 6 - 7/17/2026 - Los Angeles / Kingman Day 7 - 7/18/2026 - Kingman / Grand Canyon Day 8 - 7/19/2026 - Grand Canyon / Page Day 9 - 7/20/2026 - Page Day 10 - 7/21/2026 - Page / Monument Valley Day 11 - 7/22/2026 - Monument Valley / Durango Day 12 - 7/23/2026 - Durango Day 13 - 7/24/2026 - Durango Day 14 - 7/25/2026 - Durango Day 15 - 7/26/2026 - Durango / Glenwood Springs Day 16 - 7/27/2026 - Glenwood Springs Day 17 - 7/28/2026 - Glenwood Springs / Moab Day 18 - 7/29/2026 - Moab Day 19 - 7/30/2026 - Moab Day 20 - 7/31/2026 - Moab Day 21 - 8/1/2026 - Moab Day 22 - 8/2/2026 - Moab / Vernal Day 23 - 8/3/2026 - Vernal / Grand Teton Day 24 - 8/4/2026 - Grand Teton Day 25 - 8/5/2026 - Grand Teton / Cody Day 26 - 8/6/2026 - Cody / Yellowstone Day 27 - 8/7/2026 - Yellowstone Day 28 - 8/8/2026 - Yellowstone Day 29 - 8/9/2026 - Yellowstone Day 30 - 8/10/2026 - Yellowstone / Salt Lake City Day 31 - 8/11/2026 - Salt Lake City / Bryce Canyon Day 32 - 8/12/2026 - Bryce Canyon / Zion Day 33 - 8/13/2026 - Zion Day 34 - 8/14/2026 - Zion Day 35 - 8/15/2026 - Zion / Las Vegas Day 36 - 8/16/2026 - Las Vegas Day 37 - 8/17/2026 - Las Vegas / Los Angeles Day 38 - 8/18/2026 - Los Angeles Day 39 - 8/19/2026 - Los Angeles / Brussels Day 40 - 8/20/2026 - Brussels / Home
We’ll be alternating between house swaps, motels, and campgrounds. I’ve booked all the accommodations (except the campground at Bryce since sunset bookings open only 14 days in advance) and the first activities, as well as the most touristy ones.
I’m currently putting together my day-by-day roadbook and having some trouble planning certain days, like in LA or Las Vegas. Choosing hikes isn’t easy either—it’s tough to decide!
We’re really excited but could definitely use your help with choices and optimizations!!
Hello.
I’d like to travel along I-15N from San Diego to Las Vegas with my mom, who’s 67. We’ve explored Northern California and the California Coast over the past two years and now want to continue through the desert.
There are several attractions along the way: - Mormon Rocks - Desert Discovery Center and visit the Old Woman meteorite - Joshua Tree National Park - Mojave Desert - Mojave National Preserve - Anza-Borrego Desert State Park - Silverwood Lake
My mom has back issues that prevent her from hiking or walking on trails with elevation changes. Is it possible to visit these places by car, or are the routes flat enough?
I’d love for her to experience the desert with an itinerary adapted to her condition. I’m also open to other points of interest that aren’t mentioned. We have 3-4 days for the trip, so we’re not in a rush—just want to explore.
Thanks so much. The trip would be in fall 2026
There are several attractions along the way: - Mormon Rocks - Desert Discovery Center and visit the Old Woman meteorite - Joshua Tree National Park - Mojave Desert - Mojave National Preserve - Anza-Borrego Desert State Park - Silverwood Lake
My mom has back issues that prevent her from hiking or walking on trails with elevation changes. Is it possible to visit these places by car, or are the routes flat enough?
I’d love for her to experience the desert with an itinerary adapted to her condition. I’m also open to other points of interest that aren’t mentioned. We have 3-4 days for the trip, so we’re not in a rush—just want to explore.
Thanks so much. The trip would be in fall 2026
Hi there,
I’d love to take a road trip and visit Nova Scotia. I’d appreciate some info on the best cities to see and the most interesting spots. The trip should last about 10 to 15 days, staying in hotels or motels. Thanks in advance!
I’d love to take a road trip and visit Nova Scotia. I’d appreciate some info on the best cities to see and the most interesting spots. The trip should last about 10 to 15 days, staying in hotels or motels. Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
Quick question—I’m heading to New York soon and I’d love to know if you guys have any recommendations for websites where I can buy concert tickets?
Quick question—I’m heading to New York soon and I’d love to know if you guys have any recommendations for websites where I can buy concert tickets?
Hi there,
We’re being relocated to Saint Pierre and Miquelon. We’ll be taking the flight from Nantes to Montreal and then from Montreal to Saint Pierre. Could you recommend a hotel near the departure terminal that allows dogs?
Thanks!
We’re being relocated to Saint Pierre and Miquelon. We’ll be taking the flight from Nantes to Montreal and then from Montreal to Saint Pierre. Could you recommend a hotel near the departure terminal that allows dogs?
Thanks!
Hi,
My 16-year-old son is flying to Grand Rapids with other kids his age. There’s a layover in Detroit. There’s no unaccompanied minor service available. Is it pretty easy to navigate Detroit Airport to catch the connecting flight to Grand Rapids (domestic flight)? There are several of them who speak English well.
Thanks for your replies,
Good evening, everyone! 🙂
Just a few last questions to wrap up our Lake Tahoe visit plans.
**Parking:** We’d like to walk to Eagle Falls and then Eagle Lake. I’ve spotted two parking lots that seem close to each other and give access to the trailhead. Where and how do we pay for entry to Emerald Bay State Park and Inspiration Point?
**Viewpoints on the East Side:** Are most of the viewpoints (Balancing Rock, Granite Cave, Bonsai Rock, etc.) right by the road, or do you have to hike to reach them?
**Donner Memorial State Park:** Is it worth making a detour to Truckee to visit this park and the Truckee historic downtown?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
**Parking:** We’d like to walk to Eagle Falls and then Eagle Lake. I’ve spotted two parking lots that seem close to each other and give access to the trailhead. Where and how do we pay for entry to Emerald Bay State Park and Inspiration Point?
**Viewpoints on the East Side:** Are most of the viewpoints (Balancing Rock, Granite Cave, Bonsai Rock, etc.) right by the road, or do you have to hike to reach them?
**Donner Memorial State Park:** Is it worth making a detour to Truckee to visit this park and the Truckee historic downtown?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
Hi there. I'm shocked by the price of the Upper Antelope Canyon tour—$175 for less than an hour… You might say, "if you can’t afford it…" But the real question is whether it’s really worth it, because $350 for two makes me feel like I’m getting ripped off. For those who’ve done both Lower and Upper, can you tell me if the price difference is really justified? Thanks
Hi everyone! 🙂
As you can see, we're heading back from September 6th to the 27th.
Everything’s booked for September—flights, accommodations, and the car. As I plan, I’ll be asking the experts for help. This is our second trip to California, but most of the stops are new to us.
We’ll start directly from San Francisco to our first overnight stop, Davis, before heading to Lassen Volcanic Park for 4 nights. Our flight lands at 12:50 PM.
Here’s our itinerary: Day 1: Davis – overnight stop Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen) Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes) Day 6: South Lake Tahoe Day 7: South Lake Tahoe Day 8: Mammoth Lake Day 9: Mammoth Lake Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road Day 11: El Portal Day 12: El Portal Day 13: Oakhurst Day 14: Miramonte Day 15: Three Rivers Day 16: Three Rivers Day 17: Coalinga Day 18: Monterey Day 19: Monterey Day 20: San Francisco Day 21: San Francisco Day 22: Departure
For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned: Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2) Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3) Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4) Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)
I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV? Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?
That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening! Marcalamar 🙂
Here’s our itinerary: Day 1: Davis – overnight stop Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen) Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes) Day 6: South Lake Tahoe Day 7: South Lake Tahoe Day 8: Mammoth Lake Day 9: Mammoth Lake Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road Day 11: El Portal Day 12: El Portal Day 13: Oakhurst Day 14: Miramonte Day 15: Three Rivers Day 16: Three Rivers Day 17: Coalinga Day 18: Monterey Day 19: Monterey Day 20: San Francisco Day 21: San Francisco Day 22: Departure
For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned: Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2) Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3) Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4) Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)
I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV? Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?
That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening! Marcalamar 🙂
Here's a tip for future visitors!
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/3-national-parks-slash-red-tape-americans-boldly-transforming-visitor-entry
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/3-national-parks-slash-red-tape-americans-boldly-transforming-visitor-entry
Hi everyone,
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast. I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October. My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips. I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks to everyone for your advice and help.
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast. I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October. My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips. I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks to everyone for your advice and help.
Thanks for advising me on the booking—should I reserve a room in the hotel or go for a cabin for the best view?
Should I get breakfast or not?
What do you think of the restaurant?
Hello, if the off-the-beaten-path enthusiasts are still around 😉, I’d love some info on tackling these trails. I’m not super familiar with the rules, risks, or what to expect—I’m looking for firsthand experience from folks who’ve done it on their own once or multiple times.
Hi everyone!
I’m planning a week-long family trip to NYC in October 2026. The focus is on museums and soaking up the New York vibe. I’ve been checking Airbnb, but the prices in Manhattan are through the roof. Since I don’t know NYC well, is it "wise" to look outside Manhattan? Any neighborhoods you’d recommend?
Hello,
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas) T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC) W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV) F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Christophe
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas) T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC) W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV) F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Christophe
Hi North America forum crew,
Just a little post that might interest some of you:
Travelers to the United States | Photo Now Mandatory Upon Entry and Exit | La Presse
Hi everyone.
I assume many of you already know, but the America the Beautiful annual pass, which was $80, will increase to $250 starting January 1, 2026.
So if you're planning to travel before the end of December 2026, it's in your best interest to buy your pass in December 2025, since it will still cost $80 and be valid until the end of December 2026 if you purchase it in December 2025.
This price increase only applies to non-U.S. residents.
Additionally, for those who planned to visit just one park, a $100 surcharge per person will apply to access a list of 11 national parks... For example, if there are 4 of you in a car, you’ll have to pay $35 + $400, which comes to $435 to visit one of the 11 parks on the list (I don’t have all of them... Bryce, Zion, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.). Total madness.
The goal is to push people who only visit one park into buying the annual pass.
Last point: free entry days are over for non-residents!
That’s all for now.
I assume many of you already know, but the America the Beautiful annual pass, which was $80, will increase to $250 starting January 1, 2026.
So if you're planning to travel before the end of December 2026, it's in your best interest to buy your pass in December 2025, since it will still cost $80 and be valid until the end of December 2026 if you purchase it in December 2025.
This price increase only applies to non-U.S. residents.
Additionally, for those who planned to visit just one park, a $100 surcharge per person will apply to access a list of 11 national parks... For example, if there are 4 of you in a car, you’ll have to pay $35 + $400, which comes to $435 to visit one of the 11 parks on the list (I don’t have all of them... Bryce, Zion, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.). Total madness.
The goal is to push people who only visit one park into buying the annual pass.
Last point: free entry days are over for non-residents!
That’s all for now.
Hi everyone, I’m traveling to Los Angeles and would like to rent a vehicle at the airport. However, I have a Boursobank Ultim deferred debit card, so I’d love to know if it’s possible for those who’ve experienced this recently. Thanks for the info!
Hi VF community,
I’m planning a week in S.F. in April 2026 and I can’t figure out how to tell the cable cars—of which I understand there are three lines—apart from the trams, which I think number seven. I can’t find their individual numbers or routes anywhere.
Could someone shed some light on this for me? Thanks in advance.
Wishing you all a Merry Christmas and a wonderful 2026 full of amazing travels. Cheers, Régine
I’m planning a week in S.F. in April 2026 and I can’t figure out how to tell the cable cars—of which I understand there are three lines—apart from the trams, which I think number seven. I can’t find their individual numbers or routes anywhere.
Could someone shed some light on this for me? Thanks in advance.
Wishing you all a Merry Christmas and a wonderful 2026 full of amazing travels. Cheers, Régine
Hi,
I’m planning a road trip through the American national parks starting from Denver in June 2026.
The price of the pass is jumping from 80 € to 250 € on January 1st, 2026!!!
Is it possible to buy the pass online before the end of the year to lock in the 80 € rate? If so, where and how do I go about it?
Thanks for your tips.
Arnale
Hi there,
I’m planning a road trip for July 2026 in northern Florida. Could you let me know if my itinerary makes sense? Day 1: Orlando Day 2: Amelia Island Day 3: Amelia Island Day 4: Tallahassee Day 5: Panama City Beach Day 6: Panama City Beach (visit to Destin) Day 7: Crystal River (stop in Cedar Key on the way) Day 8: Crystal River Day 9: Anna Maria (stop in Clearwater) Day 10: Anna Maria (St. Pete) Day 11: Anna Maria Day 12: Orlando Day 13: Orlando Day 14: Orlando Day 15: Departure
Thanks in advance for your tips!
I’m planning a road trip for July 2026 in northern Florida. Could you let me know if my itinerary makes sense? Day 1: Orlando Day 2: Amelia Island Day 3: Amelia Island Day 4: Tallahassee Day 5: Panama City Beach Day 6: Panama City Beach (visit to Destin) Day 7: Crystal River (stop in Cedar Key on the way) Day 8: Crystal River Day 9: Anna Maria (stop in Clearwater) Day 10: Anna Maria (St. Pete) Day 11: Anna Maria Day 12: Orlando Day 13: Orlando Day 14: Orlando Day 15: Departure
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Hey everyone!
We just finished 9 days in the American West and wanted to share our experience because we had an amazing time.
I know some of you might ask, why use an agency? Honestly, we didn’t really feel like doing all the driving and planning, especially since we didn’t know the area at all. And since our English isn’t great, having French-speaking guides was a big comfort.
We found Emmanuelle and Isabelle, and wow, they were fantastic. It was just the two of us with them, so it was a truly VIP, ultra-personalized experience. They treated us like royalty from start to finish. These two live in Las Vegas and know the region like the back of their hand. They told us they’ve spent over 15 years exploring every corner of the American West, and it really shows. Their knowledge of geology, park history, and local anecdotes is just impressive. It’s nothing like someone reciting a memorized script. They answer all your questions and really adapt to what you want to see or do.
What we really loved: the vehicle was super comfortable, and the little details made a difference—like snacks and even a homemade cake! Though, to be fair, we devoured the cake right away, so that counts.
Since they know the sites inside out, they took us at the right times to avoid crowds. So we could enjoy peaceful picnics at Grand Canyon viewpoints without being packed in with 200 people. Plus, on top of the must-see spots, they showed us some hidden gems that were absolutely stunning—places we never would’ve found on our own. They’re true locals who know all the best tips.
The service was really personalized. They adapted to our pace and preferences, and we could stop whenever we wanted to take photos. It’s the luxury of being in a small private group—you’re not just a number on a big bus. In short, we really felt like we were traveling with friends rather than professional guides. Everything’s included in the price (hotel pickup, meals, park entries, etc.), so the value for money is fair.
We loved it so much that we’re already planning to come back next year to explore other areas with them. I think we’ve caught the American West bug—it’s all we can think about, and we can’t wait to return.
If you’re looking for a French-speaking tour with real personalized service and guides who know the region like no one else, we highly recommend them. We had unforgettable moments. They also design road trips for those who don’t want a guide. And they handled our hotel reservations in Las Vegas too. If you want genuine advice from friendly locals, we’re giving them a 200% recommendation!
We just finished 9 days in the American West and wanted to share our experience because we had an amazing time.
I know some of you might ask, why use an agency? Honestly, we didn’t really feel like doing all the driving and planning, especially since we didn’t know the area at all. And since our English isn’t great, having French-speaking guides was a big comfort.
We found Emmanuelle and Isabelle, and wow, they were fantastic. It was just the two of us with them, so it was a truly VIP, ultra-personalized experience. They treated us like royalty from start to finish. These two live in Las Vegas and know the region like the back of their hand. They told us they’ve spent over 15 years exploring every corner of the American West, and it really shows. Their knowledge of geology, park history, and local anecdotes is just impressive. It’s nothing like someone reciting a memorized script. They answer all your questions and really adapt to what you want to see or do.
What we really loved: the vehicle was super comfortable, and the little details made a difference—like snacks and even a homemade cake! Though, to be fair, we devoured the cake right away, so that counts.
Since they know the sites inside out, they took us at the right times to avoid crowds. So we could enjoy peaceful picnics at Grand Canyon viewpoints without being packed in with 200 people. Plus, on top of the must-see spots, they showed us some hidden gems that were absolutely stunning—places we never would’ve found on our own. They’re true locals who know all the best tips.
The service was really personalized. They adapted to our pace and preferences, and we could stop whenever we wanted to take photos. It’s the luxury of being in a small private group—you’re not just a number on a big bus. In short, we really felt like we were traveling with friends rather than professional guides. Everything’s included in the price (hotel pickup, meals, park entries, etc.), so the value for money is fair.
We loved it so much that we’re already planning to come back next year to explore other areas with them. I think we’ve caught the American West bug—it’s all we can think about, and we can’t wait to return.
If you’re looking for a French-speaking tour with real personalized service and guides who know the region like no one else, we highly recommend them. We had unforgettable moments. They also design road trips for those who don’t want a guide. And they handled our hotel reservations in Las Vegas too. If you want genuine advice from friendly locals, we’re giving them a 200% recommendation!
Hello,
I’m currently looking for well-located hotels near points of interest in the cities below. I’ve found a few, but the prices are really high. Could any of you share some great addresses in the following cities? - Los Angeles - Las Vegas - San Francisco
Also, do you have a preferred airline for domestic flights? If so, which one?
Thanks so much, and have a great day, everyone!
Gertjan
I’m currently looking for well-located hotels near points of interest in the cities below. I’ve found a few, but the prices are really high. Could any of you share some great addresses in the following cities? - Los Angeles - Las Vegas - San Francisco
Also, do you have a preferred airline for domestic flights? If so, which one?
Thanks so much, and have a great day, everyone!
Gertjan
