JOUR 1 Départ direction LOS ANGELES pour première balade. Jour 2 Balade en vélo le long de la côte californienne et Outlets. JOUR 3 Départ pour PALM SPRINGS pour visite, Pioneertwon et mont San Jacinto. Jour 4 Route 66, Joshua tree national park ( nuit à KINGMAN). Jours 5 et 6 Descente dans le grand canyon vers SUPAI pour 2 jours de camping aux pieds des cascades d’Havasu. Jour 7 Retour de SUPAI vers SEDONA pour un repos bien mérité. JOUR 8 Randos dans Red Rock. Nuit à Chinle Jour 9 Canyon de Chelly national park et départ pour CORTEZ. JOUR 10 Mesa Verde national park et départ pour le camping de MOAB. Jour 11 Arch valley national park & Canyonland et retour sur MOAB pour une 2ed nuit. Jour 12 Départ pour la visite de Capitol reef national park & Glen canyon et passer une nuit au bord du Lake Powell. Jour 13 Départ pour PAGE en traversant le Lake powell en ferrie. Visite d’Horseshoe bend et farniente. JOUR 14 Antelope Canyon au reveil et départ pour SAINT GEORGE en faisant un passage par Zion national park. Jour 15 Visite de Snow canyon & Valley of fire. Arrivée à L.A pour une nuit de dingue. JOUR 16 Visite de LAS VEGAS et deuxième nuit enflammée pour bien dormir dans l’avion le lendemain. Jour 17 Retour FRANCE.
Road trip Ouest américain 16 nuits - second séjour
by Matteoth
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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bonjour tout le monde
je me tourne vers vous pour beneficier de vos conseils et améliorer si besoin est mon voyage prévu aux usa entre mi mai et mi juin ( la date n'étant pas fixée encore précisément). 16 nuits/ 17 jours
Pour l'histoire j'ai déjà eu la chance de faire l'ouest américain il y a quelques années et donc je repart pour un tour en faisant tout ce dont je n'avais pas eu l'occasion de faire ( mis à part Zion).
Site déjà visiter: Los angeles, grand canyon, brice, monument, L.A, death valley, sequoia, yosemite et san Francisco
Merci d'avance
JOUR 1 Départ direction LOS ANGELES pour première balade. Jour 2 Balade en vélo le long de la côte californienne et Outlets. JOUR 3 Départ pour PALM SPRINGS pour visite, Pioneertwon et mont San Jacinto. Jour 4 Route 66, Joshua tree national park ( nuit à KINGMAN). Jours 5 et 6 Descente dans le grand canyon vers SUPAI pour 2 jours de camping aux pieds des cascades d’Havasu. Jour 7 Retour de SUPAI vers SEDONA pour un repos bien mérité. JOUR 8 Randos dans Red Rock. Nuit à Chinle Jour 9 Canyon de Chelly national park et départ pour CORTEZ. JOUR 10 Mesa Verde national park et départ pour le camping de MOAB. Jour 11 Arch valley national park & Canyonland et retour sur MOAB pour une 2ed nuit. Jour 12 Départ pour la visite de Capitol reef national park & Glen canyon et passer une nuit au bord du Lake Powell. Jour 13 Départ pour PAGE en traversant le Lake powell en ferrie. Visite d’Horseshoe bend et farniente. JOUR 14 Antelope Canyon au reveil et départ pour SAINT GEORGE en faisant un passage par Zion national park. Jour 15 Visite de Snow canyon & Valley of fire. Arrivée à L.A pour une nuit de dingue. JOUR 16 Visite de LAS VEGAS et deuxième nuit enflammée pour bien dormir dans l’avion le lendemain. Jour 17 Retour FRANCE.
JOUR 1 Départ direction LOS ANGELES pour première balade. Jour 2 Balade en vélo le long de la côte californienne et Outlets. JOUR 3 Départ pour PALM SPRINGS pour visite, Pioneertwon et mont San Jacinto. Jour 4 Route 66, Joshua tree national park ( nuit à KINGMAN). Jours 5 et 6 Descente dans le grand canyon vers SUPAI pour 2 jours de camping aux pieds des cascades d’Havasu. Jour 7 Retour de SUPAI vers SEDONA pour un repos bien mérité. JOUR 8 Randos dans Red Rock. Nuit à Chinle Jour 9 Canyon de Chelly national park et départ pour CORTEZ. JOUR 10 Mesa Verde national park et départ pour le camping de MOAB. Jour 11 Arch valley national park & Canyonland et retour sur MOAB pour une 2ed nuit. Jour 12 Départ pour la visite de Capitol reef national park & Glen canyon et passer une nuit au bord du Lake Powell. Jour 13 Départ pour PAGE en traversant le Lake powell en ferrie. Visite d’Horseshoe bend et farniente. JOUR 14 Antelope Canyon au reveil et départ pour SAINT GEORGE en faisant un passage par Zion national park. Jour 15 Visite de Snow canyon & Valley of fire. Arrivée à L.A pour une nuit de dingue. JOUR 16 Visite de LAS VEGAS et deuxième nuit enflammée pour bien dormir dans l’avion le lendemain. Jour 17 Retour FRANCE.
Bonsoir. Je crains que certains trajets et le nombre d'étapes soient démesurés pour 16 jours. Par exemple, Arches et Canyonland en 1 journée, c'est quasiment inutile. C'est au moins 1 jour pour chaque et il y a plein d'autres sites aux environs.
Je crois que allez devoir faire des choix...bon courage
alquesn
Le mieux serai que je rajoute une nuit sur maob mais c'est soumi à nos jours de congés qui nous seront autorisés. Ou bien j'avais pensé à annuler l'étape de st Georges ( avec Zion que nous avions vu) qui me semblait moins importante en faisant la jonction directe entre page et LA. La route me semble énorme?!
Hello
J15, quand tu dis LA, c'est Las Vegas, non ? Idem dans ton dernier message ?
Pour Moab, il faut y passer 3 nuits minimum.
Certaines étapes te font faire le grand écart, ce n'est pas jouable.
J8 : Petrified Forest NP peut être ?
J15, quand tu dis LA, c'est Las Vegas, non ? Idem dans ton dernier message ?
Pour Moab, il faut y passer 3 nuits minimum.
Certaines étapes te font faire le grand écart, ce n'est pas jouable.
J8 : Petrified Forest NP peut être ?
Bonjour,
Dans un timing aussi serré avec le risque de zapper certains parcs/sites majeurs, ton choix du J2 m'interpelle "balade en vélo et Outlets" ????
C'est ton trip, mais pour moi ce genre de dilemme n'existe pas !
à +
Dans un timing aussi serré avec le risque de zapper certains parcs/sites majeurs, ton choix du J2 m'interpelle "balade en vélo et Outlets" ????
C'est ton trip, mais pour moi ce genre de dilemme n'existe pas !
à +
4 fois en Camping-car: Parcs US - NewMex - Yellowst - Louisiane.
http://blogs.crespel.me/usa2009/ http://blogs.crespel.me/usa2011/
http://blogs.crespel.me/usa2012/ http://blogs.crespel.me/usa2013/
Andalousie, Bretagne, Corse, Provence, Sicile, Toscane, villes d'Italie.
sur : http://blogs.crespel.me/
Effectivement dans mes messages précédents LA= las Vegas. Vos réponses mon fait prendre conscience qu'autour de maob il a beaucoup à faire. Donc je vais revoir une grosse partie de ma copie et vous la soumettrai si vous voulez à nouveau m'accorder de votre temps.
Merci aussi pour petrified forest que j'avais oublié.
Concernant los angeles, c'était un compromis. Nous aimons aussi la plage et les magasins et je voulais profiter de cette première journée avant de nous couper du monde urbain.
A bientôt j'espère pour en parler. Merci encore
Salut,
- d'après google...maps (temps de roulage seul et visites "à la japonaise"...):
* Sedona vers entrée Sud de Petrified Forest (Giant Logs)= 140miles/2h30. * Site de Giant L. et museum (45mn). * Scenic drive Sud/Nord jusque la sortie de Painted Desert sur la I.40= 25miles/50mn. * points de vues sur la scenic drive de PF/PD (photos 30mn+ Visitor center de PD 15mn).
Total= 5h00 env.
* depuis la I.40 jusqu'au Visitor Center de Chelly= 130miles/2h15. * Visitor center de Chelly (20mn). * scenic drive South Rim 7 pour White House Overlook= 6miles/10mn. * descente aller/retour dans le canyon jusque White House (4,5km AR)= 1h30. * voir Spider Rock Overlook à 10miles/20mn+10mn sur place. * retour South Rim jusqu'au Visitor Center= 14miles/25mn.
Total= 5h15 env.
* hôtel Sacred Canyon Lodge juste à côté.
* ajouter pauses, essence, pique-nique... Donc Oui tout est possible mais tu as vu à quel prix !!!
à + Jean.
- d'après google...maps (temps de roulage seul et visites "à la japonaise"...):
* Sedona vers entrée Sud de Petrified Forest (Giant Logs)= 140miles/2h30. * Site de Giant L. et museum (45mn). * Scenic drive Sud/Nord jusque la sortie de Painted Desert sur la I.40= 25miles/50mn. * points de vues sur la scenic drive de PF/PD (photos 30mn+ Visitor center de PD 15mn).
Total= 5h00 env.
* depuis la I.40 jusqu'au Visitor Center de Chelly= 130miles/2h15. * Visitor center de Chelly (20mn). * scenic drive South Rim 7 pour White House Overlook= 6miles/10mn. * descente aller/retour dans le canyon jusque White House (4,5km AR)= 1h30. * voir Spider Rock Overlook à 10miles/20mn+10mn sur place. * retour South Rim jusqu'au Visitor Center= 14miles/25mn.
Total= 5h15 env.
* hôtel Sacred Canyon Lodge juste à côté.
* ajouter pauses, essence, pique-nique... Donc Oui tout est possible mais tu as vu à quel prix !!!
à + Jean.
4 fois en Camping-car: Parcs US - NewMex - Yellowst - Louisiane.
http://blogs.crespel.me/usa2009/ http://blogs.crespel.me/usa2011/
http://blogs.crespel.me/usa2012/ http://blogs.crespel.me/usa2013/
Andalousie, Bretagne, Corse, Provence, Sicile, Toscane, villes d'Italie.
sur : http://blogs.crespel.me/
salut, je me tourne a nouveau vers toi et le forum pour vous soumettre ma nouvelle version de mon futur voyage. J'ai rajouté 2 nuits et effectué quelques modifs notamment pour MOAB. Alors voila le detail: 18 nuits/19 jours. départ le 27 mai ( au plus tot dans la journéé)/ retour le 14 juin ( au plus tard dans la journee).
JOUR 1
Départ direction LOS ANGELES pour première balade.
Jour 2
Balade en vélo le long de la côte californienne et Outlets.
JOUR 3
Départ pour PALM SPRINGS pour visite, cabazon dinausor, Pioneertwon et mont San Jacinto ( j'hésite de monter le soir pour manger ou plutôt faire l'aller retour pour salvation moutain???)
Jour 4
Route 66, Joshua tree national park ( nuit à KINGMAN).
Jours 5 et 6
Descente dans le grand canyon vers SUPAI pour 2 jours de camping aux pieds des cascades d’Havasu.
Jour 7
Retour de SUPAI vers SEDONA pour un repos bien mérité.
JOUR 8
Randos dans Red Rock. Nouvelle nuit sur SEDONA.
JOUR 9
Passage (écalire ou pas du tout????) sur Meteor city puis visites de Petrified forest N.P & de Canyon de chelly N.P. Nuit à Chinle.
Jour 10
Départ pour la découverte de Mesa Verde. Nuit à CORTEZ.
JOUR 11
Direction Archs valley N.P et mise en place de la tente dans le camping de MOAB.
Jours 12 et 13
2 Nuits supplémentaires sur MOAB pour visiter Negro bill canyon/ Bowtie arch & Canyonlands.
Jour 14
Départ pour la visite de Capitol reef national park & Glen canyon et passer une nuit au bord du Lake Powell.
Jour 15
Départ pour PAGE en traversant le Lake powell en ferrie. Visite d’Horseshoe bend et farniente.
JOUR 16
Antelope Canyon au reveil et départ pour SAINT GEORGE en faisant un passage par Zion national park.
Jour 17
Visite de Snow canyon & Valley of fire. Arrivée à L.A pour une nuit de dingue.
JOUR 18
Visite de LAS VEGAS et deuxième nuit enflammée pour bien dormir dans l’avion le lendemain.
Jour 19
Retour france.
j'attend vos avis. MERCI et merci encore pour la dernière fois notamment aussi pour l'hotel sur CHELLY qui m'a l'air convenir parfaiteemn a mes attend et qui ne figure pas sur les sites de resa.
j'attend vos avis. MERCI et merci encore pour la dernière fois notamment aussi pour l'hotel sur CHELLY qui m'a l'air convenir parfaiteemn a mes attend et qui ne figure pas sur les sites de resa.
Hello
J8, vous pouvez vous avancer et loger à Holbrook de façon à faire Petrified Forest tôt le matin et ensuite départ pour Canyon de Chelly avec sunset sur Spider Rock. Meteor Crater peut être laissé tombé.
J8, vous pouvez vous avancer et loger à Holbrook de façon à faire Petrified Forest tôt le matin et ensuite départ pour Canyon de Chelly avec sunset sur Spider Rock. Meteor Crater peut être laissé tombé.
super idée pour holbrook j'était resté bloqué sur Sedona et en plus les hôtels sont meilleurs marché.
Merci encore et effectivement je vais laissé tomber meteor je crois.
Dautre part, devrais-je prendre le temps de faire la route supplémentaire de 2 heures A/R pour Salvation mountain de Palm springs plutôt que de profiter du panorama donné par le Tramway? je sais que c'est deux choses complètement différentes mais il me faut faire le choix je croix.
Pour Holbrook, penser tout de même à prendre un hôtel assez loin de la voie ferrée 😉
Salvation Mountain ... Perso ça ne m'attire pas du tout. Donc je ferais le téléphérique.
Salvation Mountain ... Perso ça ne m'attire pas du tout. Donc je ferais le téléphérique.
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I’d like to travel along I-15N from San Diego to Las Vegas with my mom, who’s 67. We’ve explored Northern California and the California Coast over the past two years and now want to continue through the desert.
There are several attractions along the way: - Mormon Rocks - Desert Discovery Center and visit the Old Woman meteorite - Joshua Tree National Park - Mojave Desert - Mojave National Preserve - Anza-Borrego Desert State Park - Silverwood Lake
My mom has back issues that prevent her from hiking or walking on trails with elevation changes. Is it possible to visit these places by car, or are the routes flat enough?
I’d love for her to experience the desert with an itinerary adapted to her condition. I’m also open to other points of interest that aren’t mentioned. We have 3-4 days for the trip, so we’re not in a rush—just want to explore.
Thanks so much. The trip would be in fall 2026
There are several attractions along the way: - Mormon Rocks - Desert Discovery Center and visit the Old Woman meteorite - Joshua Tree National Park - Mojave Desert - Mojave National Preserve - Anza-Borrego Desert State Park - Silverwood Lake
My mom has back issues that prevent her from hiking or walking on trails with elevation changes. Is it possible to visit these places by car, or are the routes flat enough?
I’d love for her to experience the desert with an itinerary adapted to her condition. I’m also open to other points of interest that aren’t mentioned. We have 3-4 days for the trip, so we’re not in a rush—just want to explore.
Thanks so much. The trip would be in fall 2026
Hi there,
I’d love to take a road trip and visit Nova Scotia. I’d appreciate some info on the best cities to see and the most interesting spots. The trip should last about 10 to 15 days, staying in hotels or motels. Thanks in advance!
I’d love to take a road trip and visit Nova Scotia. I’d appreciate some info on the best cities to see and the most interesting spots. The trip should last about 10 to 15 days, staying in hotels or motels. Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
Quick question—I’m heading to New York soon and I’d love to know if you guys have any recommendations for websites where I can buy concert tickets?
Quick question—I’m heading to New York soon and I’d love to know if you guys have any recommendations for websites where I can buy concert tickets?
Hi there,
We’re being relocated to Saint Pierre and Miquelon. We’ll be taking the flight from Nantes to Montreal and then from Montreal to Saint Pierre. Could you recommend a hotel near the departure terminal that allows dogs?
Thanks!
We’re being relocated to Saint Pierre and Miquelon. We’ll be taking the flight from Nantes to Montreal and then from Montreal to Saint Pierre. Could you recommend a hotel near the departure terminal that allows dogs?
Thanks!
Hi,
My 16-year-old son is flying to Grand Rapids with other kids his age. There’s a layover in Detroit. There’s no unaccompanied minor service available. Is it pretty easy to navigate Detroit Airport to catch the connecting flight to Grand Rapids (domestic flight)? There are several of them who speak English well.
Thanks for your replies,
Good evening, everyone! 🙂
Just a few last questions to wrap up our Lake Tahoe visit plans.
**Parking:** We’d like to walk to Eagle Falls and then Eagle Lake. I’ve spotted two parking lots that seem close to each other and give access to the trailhead. Where and how do we pay for entry to Emerald Bay State Park and Inspiration Point?
**Viewpoints on the East Side:** Are most of the viewpoints (Balancing Rock, Granite Cave, Bonsai Rock, etc.) right by the road, or do you have to hike to reach them?
**Donner Memorial State Park:** Is it worth making a detour to Truckee to visit this park and the Truckee historic downtown?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
**Parking:** We’d like to walk to Eagle Falls and then Eagle Lake. I’ve spotted two parking lots that seem close to each other and give access to the trailhead. Where and how do we pay for entry to Emerald Bay State Park and Inspiration Point?
**Viewpoints on the East Side:** Are most of the viewpoints (Balancing Rock, Granite Cave, Bonsai Rock, etc.) right by the road, or do you have to hike to reach them?
**Donner Memorial State Park:** Is it worth making a detour to Truckee to visit this park and the Truckee historic downtown?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
Hi there. I'm shocked by the price of the Upper Antelope Canyon tour—$175 for less than an hour… You might say, "if you can’t afford it…" But the real question is whether it’s really worth it, because $350 for two makes me feel like I’m getting ripped off. For those who’ve done both Lower and Upper, can you tell me if the price difference is really justified? Thanks
Hi everyone! 🙂
As you can see, we're heading back from September 6th to the 27th.
Everything’s booked for September—flights, accommodations, and the car. As I plan, I’ll be asking the experts for help. This is our second trip to California, but most of the stops are new to us.
We’ll start directly from San Francisco to our first overnight stop, Davis, before heading to Lassen Volcanic Park for 4 nights. Our flight lands at 12:50 PM.
Here’s our itinerary: Day 1: Davis – overnight stop Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen) Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes) Day 6: South Lake Tahoe Day 7: South Lake Tahoe Day 8: Mammoth Lake Day 9: Mammoth Lake Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road Day 11: El Portal Day 12: El Portal Day 13: Oakhurst Day 14: Miramonte Day 15: Three Rivers Day 16: Three Rivers Day 17: Coalinga Day 18: Monterey Day 19: Monterey Day 20: San Francisco Day 21: San Francisco Day 22: Departure
For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned: Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2) Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3) Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4) Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)
I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV? Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?
That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening! Marcalamar 🙂
Here’s our itinerary: Day 1: Davis – overnight stop Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen) Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes) Day 6: South Lake Tahoe Day 7: South Lake Tahoe Day 8: Mammoth Lake Day 9: Mammoth Lake Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road Day 11: El Portal Day 12: El Portal Day 13: Oakhurst Day 14: Miramonte Day 15: Three Rivers Day 16: Three Rivers Day 17: Coalinga Day 18: Monterey Day 19: Monterey Day 20: San Francisco Day 21: San Francisco Day 22: Departure
For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned: Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2) Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3) Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4) Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)
I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV? Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?
That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening! Marcalamar 🙂
Here's a tip for future visitors!
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/3-national-parks-slash-red-tape-americans-boldly-transforming-visitor-entry
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/3-national-parks-slash-red-tape-americans-boldly-transforming-visitor-entry
Hi everyone,
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast. I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October. My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips. I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks to everyone for your advice and help.
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast. I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October. My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips. I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks to everyone for your advice and help.
Thanks for advising me on the booking—should I reserve a room in the hotel or go for a cabin for the best view?
Should I get breakfast or not?
What do you think of the restaurant?
Hello, if the off-the-beaten-path enthusiasts are still around 😉, I’d love some info on tackling these trails. I’m not super familiar with the rules, risks, or what to expect—I’m looking for firsthand experience from folks who’ve done it on their own once or multiple times.
Hi everyone!
I’m planning a week-long family trip to NYC in October 2026. The focus is on museums and soaking up the New York vibe. I’ve been checking Airbnb, but the prices in Manhattan are through the roof. Since I don’t know NYC well, is it "wise" to look outside Manhattan? Any neighborhoods you’d recommend?
Hello,
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas) T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC) W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV) F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Christophe
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas) T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC) W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV) F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Christophe
Hi North America forum crew,
Just a little post that might interest some of you:
Travelers to the United States | Photo Now Mandatory Upon Entry and Exit | La Presse
Hi everyone.
I assume many of you already know, but the America the Beautiful annual pass, which was $80, will increase to $250 starting January 1, 2026.
So if you're planning to travel before the end of December 2026, it's in your best interest to buy your pass in December 2025, since it will still cost $80 and be valid until the end of December 2026 if you purchase it in December 2025.
This price increase only applies to non-U.S. residents.
Additionally, for those who planned to visit just one park, a $100 surcharge per person will apply to access a list of 11 national parks... For example, if there are 4 of you in a car, you’ll have to pay $35 + $400, which comes to $435 to visit one of the 11 parks on the list (I don’t have all of them... Bryce, Zion, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.). Total madness.
The goal is to push people who only visit one park into buying the annual pass.
Last point: free entry days are over for non-residents!
That’s all for now.
I assume many of you already know, but the America the Beautiful annual pass, which was $80, will increase to $250 starting January 1, 2026.
So if you're planning to travel before the end of December 2026, it's in your best interest to buy your pass in December 2025, since it will still cost $80 and be valid until the end of December 2026 if you purchase it in December 2025.
This price increase only applies to non-U.S. residents.
Additionally, for those who planned to visit just one park, a $100 surcharge per person will apply to access a list of 11 national parks... For example, if there are 4 of you in a car, you’ll have to pay $35 + $400, which comes to $435 to visit one of the 11 parks on the list (I don’t have all of them... Bryce, Zion, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.). Total madness.
The goal is to push people who only visit one park into buying the annual pass.
Last point: free entry days are over for non-residents!
That’s all for now.
Hi everyone, I’m traveling to Los Angeles and would like to rent a vehicle at the airport. However, I have a Boursobank Ultim deferred debit card, so I’d love to know if it’s possible for those who’ve experienced this recently. Thanks for the info!
Hi VF community,
I’m planning a week in S.F. in April 2026 and I can’t figure out how to tell the cable cars—of which I understand there are three lines—apart from the trams, which I think number seven. I can’t find their individual numbers or routes anywhere.
Could someone shed some light on this for me? Thanks in advance.
Wishing you all a Merry Christmas and a wonderful 2026 full of amazing travels. Cheers, Régine
I’m planning a week in S.F. in April 2026 and I can’t figure out how to tell the cable cars—of which I understand there are three lines—apart from the trams, which I think number seven. I can’t find their individual numbers or routes anywhere.
Could someone shed some light on this for me? Thanks in advance.
Wishing you all a Merry Christmas and a wonderful 2026 full of amazing travels. Cheers, Régine
Hi,
I’m planning a road trip through the American national parks starting from Denver in June 2026.
The price of the pass is jumping from 80 € to 250 € on January 1st, 2026!!!
Is it possible to buy the pass online before the end of the year to lock in the 80 € rate? If so, where and how do I go about it?
Thanks for your tips.
Arnale
Hi there,
I’m planning a road trip for July 2026 in northern Florida. Could you let me know if my itinerary makes sense? Day 1: Orlando Day 2: Amelia Island Day 3: Amelia Island Day 4: Tallahassee Day 5: Panama City Beach Day 6: Panama City Beach (visit to Destin) Day 7: Crystal River (stop in Cedar Key on the way) Day 8: Crystal River Day 9: Anna Maria (stop in Clearwater) Day 10: Anna Maria (St. Pete) Day 11: Anna Maria Day 12: Orlando Day 13: Orlando Day 14: Orlando Day 15: Departure
Thanks in advance for your tips!
I’m planning a road trip for July 2026 in northern Florida. Could you let me know if my itinerary makes sense? Day 1: Orlando Day 2: Amelia Island Day 3: Amelia Island Day 4: Tallahassee Day 5: Panama City Beach Day 6: Panama City Beach (visit to Destin) Day 7: Crystal River (stop in Cedar Key on the way) Day 8: Crystal River Day 9: Anna Maria (stop in Clearwater) Day 10: Anna Maria (St. Pete) Day 11: Anna Maria Day 12: Orlando Day 13: Orlando Day 14: Orlando Day 15: Departure
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Hey everyone!
We just finished 9 days in the American West and wanted to share our experience because we had an amazing time.
I know some of you might ask, why use an agency? Honestly, we didn’t really feel like doing all the driving and planning, especially since we didn’t know the area at all. And since our English isn’t great, having French-speaking guides was a big comfort.
We found Emmanuelle and Isabelle, and wow, they were fantastic. It was just the two of us with them, so it was a truly VIP, ultra-personalized experience. They treated us like royalty from start to finish. These two live in Las Vegas and know the region like the back of their hand. They told us they’ve spent over 15 years exploring every corner of the American West, and it really shows. Their knowledge of geology, park history, and local anecdotes is just impressive. It’s nothing like someone reciting a memorized script. They answer all your questions and really adapt to what you want to see or do.
What we really loved: the vehicle was super comfortable, and the little details made a difference—like snacks and even a homemade cake! Though, to be fair, we devoured the cake right away, so that counts.
Since they know the sites inside out, they took us at the right times to avoid crowds. So we could enjoy peaceful picnics at Grand Canyon viewpoints without being packed in with 200 people. Plus, on top of the must-see spots, they showed us some hidden gems that were absolutely stunning—places we never would’ve found on our own. They’re true locals who know all the best tips.
The service was really personalized. They adapted to our pace and preferences, and we could stop whenever we wanted to take photos. It’s the luxury of being in a small private group—you’re not just a number on a big bus. In short, we really felt like we were traveling with friends rather than professional guides. Everything’s included in the price (hotel pickup, meals, park entries, etc.), so the value for money is fair.
We loved it so much that we’re already planning to come back next year to explore other areas with them. I think we’ve caught the American West bug—it’s all we can think about, and we can’t wait to return.
If you’re looking for a French-speaking tour with real personalized service and guides who know the region like no one else, we highly recommend them. We had unforgettable moments. They also design road trips for those who don’t want a guide. And they handled our hotel reservations in Las Vegas too. If you want genuine advice from friendly locals, we’re giving them a 200% recommendation!
We just finished 9 days in the American West and wanted to share our experience because we had an amazing time.
I know some of you might ask, why use an agency? Honestly, we didn’t really feel like doing all the driving and planning, especially since we didn’t know the area at all. And since our English isn’t great, having French-speaking guides was a big comfort.
We found Emmanuelle and Isabelle, and wow, they were fantastic. It was just the two of us with them, so it was a truly VIP, ultra-personalized experience. They treated us like royalty from start to finish. These two live in Las Vegas and know the region like the back of their hand. They told us they’ve spent over 15 years exploring every corner of the American West, and it really shows. Their knowledge of geology, park history, and local anecdotes is just impressive. It’s nothing like someone reciting a memorized script. They answer all your questions and really adapt to what you want to see or do.
What we really loved: the vehicle was super comfortable, and the little details made a difference—like snacks and even a homemade cake! Though, to be fair, we devoured the cake right away, so that counts.
Since they know the sites inside out, they took us at the right times to avoid crowds. So we could enjoy peaceful picnics at Grand Canyon viewpoints without being packed in with 200 people. Plus, on top of the must-see spots, they showed us some hidden gems that were absolutely stunning—places we never would’ve found on our own. They’re true locals who know all the best tips.
The service was really personalized. They adapted to our pace and preferences, and we could stop whenever we wanted to take photos. It’s the luxury of being in a small private group—you’re not just a number on a big bus. In short, we really felt like we were traveling with friends rather than professional guides. Everything’s included in the price (hotel pickup, meals, park entries, etc.), so the value for money is fair.
We loved it so much that we’re already planning to come back next year to explore other areas with them. I think we’ve caught the American West bug—it’s all we can think about, and we can’t wait to return.
If you’re looking for a French-speaking tour with real personalized service and guides who know the region like no one else, we highly recommend them. We had unforgettable moments. They also design road trips for those who don’t want a guide. And they handled our hotel reservations in Las Vegas too. If you want genuine advice from friendly locals, we’re giving them a 200% recommendation!
Hello,
I’m currently looking for well-located hotels near points of interest in the cities below. I’ve found a few, but the prices are really high. Could any of you share some great addresses in the following cities? - Los Angeles - Las Vegas - San Francisco
Also, do you have a preferred airline for domestic flights? If so, which one?
Thanks so much, and have a great day, everyone!
Gertjan
I’m currently looking for well-located hotels near points of interest in the cities below. I’ve found a few, but the prices are really high. Could any of you share some great addresses in the following cities? - Los Angeles - Las Vegas - San Francisco
Also, do you have a preferred airline for domestic flights? If so, which one?
Thanks so much, and have a great day, everyone!
Gertjan







