Bonjour à tous, je souhaiterais faire la route entre Srinagar et Leh en été 2019 (si la situation le permet). Y a t'il des gens qui l'ont fait? Google m'annonce 420km et j'imagine que c'est une route "difficile"... J'ai déjà fait de la route difficile en Inde et le Pamir Tadjik donc ne suis pas totalement novice ;-)
Merci pour vos conseils.
Ah, Srinagar au Pakistan ? Ça y est, le Cachemire a enfin choisi? 🤪😄😛
Je n'ai pas fait la route Srinagar-Leh (Enfin si, mais seulement une partie et dans l'autre sens.
Je ne comprends pas exactement quelle est ta question. Oui, pas mal de voyageurs font cette route en 4x4, en deux jours avec une nuit à Kargil. Route difficile, mais très fréquentée, et sûrement pas beaucoup plus difficiles que celles que tu as déjà faites. Il y a plusieurs sujets sur le forum à ce sujet.
Oui la route était pratiquable il y a plus de vingt ans en bus et à moto et elle doit l'être encore mieux de nos jours. Je me souviens de magnifiques paysages. Vous qui venez de la Suisse vous devriez vous y retrouver puisqu'on peut les qualifier de très alpins ou himalayens...😎
De mémoire, magnifique région , splendides paysages, de gens bien agréables et commerçants j'avais trouvé la région plus agréable à vivre que le Ladakh avec ses lacs, ses contreforts , la visite de la ville, ses jardins, ses facilités...même si beaucoup de voyageurs ont un faible pour le Ladakh (qui fait plus.... bout du monde avec ses montagnes désertiques et énigmatique avec ses monastères pour les plus avertis ) ...
Quand à la situation géopolitique, déplorable et triste sort) , elle ne devrait pas changer de si peu avec tous les enjeux de territoire dû aux superpuissances frontalières...ce qui a bien entendu un impact sur la stabilité sécuritaire actuelle au Cachemire.
Il est sûr que le titre fait sourire... Même si l'urdu est langue officielle de l'Etat du Jammu-Cachemire. Mais les ladakhis (y compris les chiites de Kargil) ne devraient pas être très volontaires pour un rattachement au Pakistan.
Y a t'il des gens qui l'ont fait? Google m'annonce 420km et j'imagine que c'est une route "difficile"...
J'ai été le passager d'un taxi collectif en août 2014.
La route Srinagar - Kargil était en parfait état, asphaltée en quasi totalité et ne présentant pas de difficulté particulière.
Sauf pour le passage du Zoji La, dont le versant sud est très abrupt. Pas l'endroit pour faire une sortie de route dans cette montée en épingles-à-cheveux. Cela m'a rappelé la montée entre Sierre et Niouc, pour accéder au Val d'Anniviers (Valais Suisse), mais sans l'asphalte, et sans la moindre glissière de sécurité, pas même un petit muret.
Il faut donc être vigilant, mais je n'aurais pas été paniqué si j'avais dû prendre le volant. Mon expérience des routes anniviardes m'aurait suffi.
Du fait de sa géologie particulière, le versant sud est très instable, et la route est remise en état tous les matins. Le franchissement est donc plus ou moins long selon les dégâts de la nuit et selon les véhicules déjà en attente.
Telle était en tout cas la situation en août 2014, et je doute que la géologie ait changé depuis.
Du fait de son importance stratégique (cette route est l'une des 2 seules voies d'accès au Ladakh, frontalier avec le Pakistan et la Chine avec lesquels l'Inde est toujours en guerre larvée), le col Zoji La fait l'objet d'un projet de tunnel.
De Kargil à Leh, il y a 2 autres cols à franchir entre Mulbekh et Lamayuru, mais je ne les connais pas. Je sais seulement que les poids-lourds révisent attentivement leurs freins avant d'en commencer l'ascension, et qu'ils font pause au bas de la descente pour laisser refroidir leurs freins.
Entre Lamayuru et Leh, la route est de très bonne qualité, asphaltée. A partir de Khaltsi, la route longe le fleuve Indus. Cela tournicote un peu à certains endroits, mais rien de particulier. Par contre, on peut être très ralenti par un long convoi militaire ou par des camions-citernes trop rapprochés.
Fabrice
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Merci pour votre réponse. En effet, j'ai mal choisi mon titre... Ce que je voulais dire en fait c'est que je pars du Pakistan... mais bon merci pour la remarque ;-)
Je n'arrive plus à changer le titre, ma foi il restera faux...
Je n'arrive plus à changer le titre, ma foi il restera faux...
Il suffit de cliquer sur répondre puis sur signaler à la modération en expliquant pourquoi vous voulez changer le titre et de donner votre nouveau titre. Ils se chargeront de le modifier. D'autant plus qu'il s'agit d'une erreur un peu fâcheuse. Comme si l'on situait Genève en France...😉
Sinon, oui le route est très bien entretenue (zone militaire oblige pour les convois) et les deux fois où je l'ai faite dans les deux sens, je ne l'ai pas trouvée "difficile" du tout. Et les paysages sont très beaux
Ma réponse sera plus mitigée quant à la dangerosité de cette route.... en fait, tout dépend de la météo.
Nous avons fait cette route mi-juillet 2015 donc l'époque devait être favorable mais il y eut de fortes pluies peu avant notre départ. Du coup, notre départ a été retardé de 2 jours et quand nous avons pris la route, non seulement la route était dans un très mauvais état avec encore des travaux qui créaient des bouchons, mais en plus nous n'étions pas tout seuls... conduite indienne exécrable avec en plus de gros camions, ça n'a franchement pas été une partie de plaisir.
En partant de Srinagar à 8h, nous sommes arrivé à 20h à Kargil pour une halte forcée!
Bref, assurez vous d'avoir un bon 4*4 et un très bon chauffeur!
Nous sommes passé par une petite agence locale super efficace et qui a bien gérée, si ça vous intéresse, j'ai leur coordonnées.
je compte descendre de Sary-Tash (Kirghizistan) vers Murghab (Tadjikistan), puis descendre plus bas en traversant le Jammu-et-cachemire pour me rendre jusqu'au Népal, est-ce faisable ?
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