Transsibérien en hiver: voyage entre Moscou et Vladivostok et passage au Japon
by Traviata
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Nous sommes un groupe de quatre personnes qui avons l'intention d'aller au Japon au Printemps 2011 en utilisant le Transsibérien (départ de Moscou vers le 10 Mars).
Nous sommes à la recherche de tous renseignements et conseils utiles pour un voyage en hiver entre Moscou et Vladivostok.
Nous aimerions arriver au Japon à la fin du mois de Mars pour "aller voir les cerisiers en fleurs".
Le temps imparti est donc de l'ordre de 15 jours à 3 semaines.
Quelle classe de Transsibérien choisir? Aucun de nous ne parlant russe et je crains que malgré toute ma bonne volonté, je ne sois pas au moment du départ devenu un parfait russophone...Malgré ce, paraît il possible de prendre des billets pour une classe où nous pourrions rencontrer quelques autochtones?
Où et comment prendre les billets? Programmation complète du voyage? ou prise des billets par segments? Prix des billets? Différence de prix selon les classes?
Arrêts recommandés? Irkoutsk, bien sûr, mais d'autres? Que faire à Irkoutsk en plein mois de Mars? Balades sur le Baïkal?
Arrêts de combien de jours? Khabarovsk?
Précautions particulières à prendre compte tenu de la saison?
Vladivostok : y passer combien de temps?
Passage sur le Japon : a priori, en bateau. Possible à cette saison de l'année? Prix? Durée de la traversée? Sur Hokkaido? Sur Honshu? Via la Corée?
Voilà.
Je remercie d'avance tous ceux qui prendront la peine de répondre à ces questions...ainsi qu'à celles que je n'ai pas mentionnées mais qui donneront des détails et des précisions pour un tel voyage.
🙂
bonjour
alors déjà si vous êtes un groupe de 4, le kupé s'impose, ça parait pratique (c'est la deuxième classe il y en a 3: luxe =2 couchettes, kupé = 4 couchettes et plaskart avec wagon dortoir) LE TOP ce serait que vous sachiez au moins déchiffrer le russe même si vous ne comprenez pas tout ce n'est pas grave au contraire, vous verrez des gens toujours prêts à vous aider! si vous en avez la possibilité, la prise de billets par segments serait sympa! ça vous permettrait de voir des villes russes certaines comme kazan, méritent le coup d'oeil, le baikal au printemps, je recommande en effet, c'est à faire!!! il y a en plus pas mal de guest-house parlant français après à voir, j'habite Omsk, c'est une ville sympa à visiter ça vous permettrez de faire une halte, ou Tomsk et ses maisons en bois, pourquoi pas? la différence de prix suivant les classes reste assez simple la plupart du temps ça double entre chaque, la classe luxe, ne vous permettra pas de rencontrer du monde et le prix de revient et celui de l'avion... un conseil, ne jamais trop s'habiller dans le train, car souvent les trains russes sont surchauffés!! si vous avez des questions n'hésitez pas!
alors déjà si vous êtes un groupe de 4, le kupé s'impose, ça parait pratique (c'est la deuxième classe il y en a 3: luxe =2 couchettes, kupé = 4 couchettes et plaskart avec wagon dortoir) LE TOP ce serait que vous sachiez au moins déchiffrer le russe même si vous ne comprenez pas tout ce n'est pas grave au contraire, vous verrez des gens toujours prêts à vous aider! si vous en avez la possibilité, la prise de billets par segments serait sympa! ça vous permettrait de voir des villes russes certaines comme kazan, méritent le coup d'oeil, le baikal au printemps, je recommande en effet, c'est à faire!!! il y a en plus pas mal de guest-house parlant français après à voir, j'habite Omsk, c'est une ville sympa à visiter ça vous permettrez de faire une halte, ou Tomsk et ses maisons en bois, pourquoi pas? la différence de prix suivant les classes reste assez simple la plupart du temps ça double entre chaque, la classe luxe, ne vous permettra pas de rencontrer du monde et le prix de revient et celui de l'avion... un conseil, ne jamais trop s'habiller dans le train, car souvent les trains russes sont surchauffés!! si vous avez des questions n'hésitez pas!
Bonjour Roxane,
Merci de tes renseignements sur la classe à choisir pour le trajet Moscou Vladivostok.
Maintenant, pourrais tu me dire, si tu le sais, si les guest houses dont tu parles sur le bord du Baïkal, sont ouvertes en hiver, si il est posible d'accéder à l'Ile d'Olkhon à cette époque et ce qu'on peut faire à Irkoutsk pendant 3 ou 4 jours au mois de Mars...
Par ailleurs, compte tenu de la période, est il nécessaire de faire des réservations de train, ou peut on prendre des billets "à la dernière minute" (ce qui parait plus compatible avec un "voyage par segments").
Voilà, pour l'instant, c'est tout, je reviendrai peut être à la charge plus tard pour d'autres informations...
Merci encore.
Traviata.🙂
voici pour les renseignements sur le baikal
http://www.portbaikal.com/fr/voyages_Baikal/voyages_ete/il_olkhon_coeur_du_baikal
http://www.baikalnature.com/accommodation/57872
http://www.petitfute.com/guide/159260-nikita-bencharov
oui la plupart sont ouvertes en hiver et gros avantage vous ne vous bousculerez pas. Je ne pense pas que les réversations soient nécessaires mais comme je le disais il est parfois bien de pouvoir attendre un ou 2 jours sur place pour avoir soit un kupé complet (pour être ensemble) soit un meilleur tarif. Le mieux, dès que vous arrivez à la gare réservez votre départ suivant et vous saurez combien de temps vous avez pour visiter la ville.
Bons préparatifs
http://www.baikalnature.com/accommodation/57872
http://www.petitfute.com/guide/159260-nikita-bencharov
oui la plupart sont ouvertes en hiver et gros avantage vous ne vous bousculerez pas. Je ne pense pas que les réversations soient nécessaires mais comme je le disais il est parfois bien de pouvoir attendre un ou 2 jours sur place pour avoir soit un kupé complet (pour être ensemble) soit un meilleur tarif. Le mieux, dès que vous arrivez à la gare réservez votre départ suivant et vous saurez combien de temps vous avez pour visiter la ville.
Bons préparatifs
Bonjour,
De mon côté, je prends le transsibérien dans un peu plus d'une semaine. Je prendrais mes billets directement à la gare. Mais j'ai une ou 2 petites questions qui peuvent vous paraitre futile mais utile : ma première est la suivante : je ne sais pas si je dois prendre un duvet ou non pour le transsibérien. Que me conseillez vous ? d'autre part, j'hésite toujours entre la seconde classe et troisième classe...Sachant que je suis une fille toute seule, on m'a dit qu'il valait mieux aller en 3 ème classe car au moins je serais avec pleins de personnes. Car si je vais en seconde classe, je peux me retrouver toute seule avec 3 hommes... Quelqu’un a-t-il déjà pris la troisième classe ? Comment c'est ? Assez propre ? ...j'aimerais en savoir un peu plus avant de prendre mon billet...
Merci à vous de votre retour... Linda
De mon côté, je prends le transsibérien dans un peu plus d'une semaine. Je prendrais mes billets directement à la gare. Mais j'ai une ou 2 petites questions qui peuvent vous paraitre futile mais utile : ma première est la suivante : je ne sais pas si je dois prendre un duvet ou non pour le transsibérien. Que me conseillez vous ? d'autre part, j'hésite toujours entre la seconde classe et troisième classe...Sachant que je suis une fille toute seule, on m'a dit qu'il valait mieux aller en 3 ème classe car au moins je serais avec pleins de personnes. Car si je vais en seconde classe, je peux me retrouver toute seule avec 3 hommes... Quelqu’un a-t-il déjà pris la troisième classe ? Comment c'est ? Assez propre ? ...j'aimerais en savoir un peu plus avant de prendre mon billet...
Merci à vous de votre retour... Linda
je te conseillerai le contraire, tout dépend en fait combien de jour tu veux voyager, combien d'argent du veux (peux) dépenser. Les prix doublent de l'une à l'autre.
Alors pour tes questions... dans le dortoir (3eme) il y a souvent une odeur auquelle il faut s'habituer, les trains étant surchauffés ça transpire pas mal si tu choisis cette classe je te conseille de prendre ton duvet (léger) pour plus d'hygiène et parce que certaines compagnie font payer les draps donc même si ce n'est pas cher ça peut te l'éviter. Ensuite il y a un facteur chance important car si tu tombes avec un groupe porté sur la boisson peu de chance de dormir... par contre c clair, c'est une VRAIE expérience lol et on se fait des amis.
En seconde, oui tu peux tomber sur 3 hommes mais la provenitsa (la responsable du wagon) n'est jamais loin, et ça reste rare car les gens voyageant en kupé font partie de la classe moyenne ou des presque riches (la première c'est le prix de l'avion...) donc certains prennent la seconde pour justement pouvoir dormir tranquille= professionnel, commerciaux et famille avec enfants. Si vraiment tu as peur tu peux en discuter avec la responsable de wagon pour changer de cabine (s'il reste des places)
la seule fois où je suis tombée avec que des hommes c'était des conducteurs de train justement qui repartaient dans leur ville natale, et franchement en temps que petite française, j'ai été traité comme une princesse!!!
bon voyage, si tu repasses dis moi si tu compte faire des arrêts!
salut a tous
je suis avec intérêt la conversation, pour nous le départ de geneve(nous habitons Annecy) ce sera le 12/03 pour
krasnoiarsk puis le BAM jusqu'a Vladivostock le bateau via la corée car la ligne via Okaido semble ne pas être ouverte à cette époque , à Wakanai le 30 03 2008 nous avons eu une tempete de neige par - 20 gla gla . Ensuite le train pour Tokyo ou nous passerons deux semaines chez nos enfants qui vivent au Japon puis retour bateau et retour vlad krasnoiarsk par la voie normale du transib et avion pour geneve le 24 avril, pour le japon je peux vous donner beaucoup de renseignements sur ce super pays ou le voyage en train et le meilleur du Monde , facile, mais un peu onéreux. par contre pour la russie les horaires de train ce n'est pas facile et les visas semblent être une belle galère a obtenir, échangeons nos renseignements et bon vent
jura
frax
Je reviens sur le débat après une assez longue absence.
Le projet France-Japon par le Transsibérien se précise : départ de Moscou le 9 Mars 2011 (arrivée programmée à Vladivostok le 22).
Nous pensons faire deux arrêts en Russie : l'un de deux jours à Novosibirsk, l'autre de quatre jours à Irkoutsk.
Je souhaite savoir comment utiliser au mieux ces quelques jours hors Transsibérien et notamment comment aller à Tomsk (il semble que le taxi collectif soit la meilleure et la plus rapide des solutions : je cherche à savoir comment faire, prix du taxi, lieu précis du départ, hôtel conseillé à Tomsk, etc).
Mêmes choses pour Irkoutsk où nous avons évidemment l'intention de balader dans la ville d'Irkoutsk et d'aller à l'Ile d'Olkhon.
Merci pour tous les conseils et suggestions sur ce sujet.
🙂 Traviata.
bonjour!!!
pourquoi novossibirsk?? si c'est pour aller à tomsk, arrête ton à Omsk et ensuite c'est une nuit de train... sinon le taxi ou la marcheroutka (ce que tu dois appeler taxi collectif) il part de la gare routière de novo qui est à 5km de la gare ferroviaire. attention à la gare routière il y a plein de chauffeurs non officiel qui se proposent... prend un vrai ticket et attend une marcheroutka officiel, moins de risques! Franchement il n'y a pas bcp de choses à voir à novo et la ville est bof... (enfin c'est pas une ville ancienne donc pas de centre historique ni de beau monument mais bon il y a surement des choses à faire. c'est sûre que si c'est pour aller à Tomsk alors c'est un bon compromis.
Bon voyage!
pourquoi novossibirsk?? si c'est pour aller à tomsk, arrête ton à Omsk et ensuite c'est une nuit de train... sinon le taxi ou la marcheroutka (ce que tu dois appeler taxi collectif) il part de la gare routière de novo qui est à 5km de la gare ferroviaire. attention à la gare routière il y a plein de chauffeurs non officiel qui se proposent... prend un vrai ticket et attend une marcheroutka officiel, moins de risques! Franchement il n'y a pas bcp de choses à voir à novo et la ville est bof... (enfin c'est pas une ville ancienne donc pas de centre historique ni de beau monument mais bon il y a surement des choses à faire. c'est sûre que si c'est pour aller à Tomsk alors c'est un bon compromis.
Bon voyage!
Merci pour cette réponse rapide.
Je pense en effet que l'arrêt à Novo est un bon compromis (en tous cas, c'est ce que préconisent les différents guides consultés) pour aller à Tomsk qui est l'objectif unique de la halte à Novosibirsk.
Maintenant, arrivant par le Rossyia vers 10 heures du soir, nous devrons coucher à Novo avant de prendre un marchroutka le matin pour Tomsk : peux tu nous conseiller un hôtel? Même chose pour le lendemain à Tomsk?
Bien à toi et merci.
🙂 Traviata.
pour novo, l'hotel novossibirk est bien placé surtout si vous devez partir tôt en marcheroutka
le rossyia s'arrête à Omsk ??? parce que si c'est le cas ça vous ferez arriver vers 12h je pense (à Omsk) donc l'aprem pour découvrir la ville puis reprendre le train omsk tomsk (1 nuit) et arriver le matin donc pratique pour y passer la journée c'est pour ça que je ne comprenais pas trop l'arret à novo, mais financièrement la marcheroutka est vraiment pas cher donc c'est aussi une idée quoique là vous économisez l'hôtel.
Pour tomsk on passe la nuit dans le train justement donc je sais pas trop... pour l'hotel, par contre chez slaventures ils ont la possibilité de trouver une nuit chez l'habitant ça peut être sympa!
http://www.slaventures.net/index.php
bonne continuation
http://www.slaventures.net/index.php
bonne continuation
😎 salut
j'ai trouvé un contact a irkoutsk je te donne son mail a_vl@mail.ru attention au tiret du bas ....cette jeune dame parle parfaitement le francais , je lui ai parle à plusieurs reprises sur skype elle se prénomme Alyona , tu peux lui ecrire ou lui parler sans probleme , c'est son travail d'aider les français
a Vlad fin mars
jura
frax
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Philippe
We’re planning a 15-day trip to Uzbekistan in March—classic independent itinerary: Tashkent, Samarkand, Bukhara, Khiva. We’d like to take the train between each city, but I don’t want to lock down the whole trip before we leave.
So, my question is: is it absolutely necessary to book train tickets before departure, whether for the high-speed trains or the regional ones? Is booking really essential for the regional trains?
Thanks a bunch!
Philippe
Hello,
We’re traveling as a family with two boys aged 10 and 12 to Cairo in February. During our trip, we’re planning to take an overnight train (with or without a sleeper) for the Cairo-Aswan route.
Do you know how I can book this remotely?
Also, I’m looking for: - A local contact to sail the Nile by felucca for 3 days from Aswan - A contact to guide us in Cairo
Looking forward to your tips, and thanks in advance! Marie
Also, I’m looking for: - A local contact to sail the Nile by felucca for 3 days from Aswan - A contact to guide us in Cairo
Looking forward to your tips, and thanks in advance! Marie
Hi everyone,
I first traveled solo to Japan in 2019, exploring the Kyushu region (28 days), and I’m planning to return with my daughter (she’s an adult and it’ll be her first time in Asia) from April 25 to May 9.
I’m reaching out on this forum to ask for route ideas—this time north of Tokyo, but without heading to the Sapporo island (I’m saving that for a future trip).
I’d love to take advantage of the cherry blossom season and its festivities.
I’m looking to create a route that’s a little off the beaten path while staying within 5-6 hours by train from Tokyo to avoid spending too much time on transfers.
Thanks in advance for sharing your suggestions and experiences!
Michael
I'm heading to MEXICO IN NOVEMBER 2025. Since private guides and drivers are really expensive—over 300 € per day—I'm thinking of exploring the Yucatán by train. CAN YOU SHARE ANY INFO ON THIS? Thanks
Hi there!
We’re planning to visit Serbia (1 week) and then Montenegro (2nd week) with our kids from April 18 to May 4. We’d prefer to travel by train (overnight if possible), but we’re not sure which platform to book on or when to do it (is it too early?). If anyone has any tips, I’m all ears!!
I wanted to know if it’s possible to go from Tashkent to Almaty by train without passing through Kyrgyzstan. I’ve heard the border is often closed 😕 between Uzbekistan and Kazakhstan.
Thanks in advance!
Olivier
Hi there!
We’re planning to head back to Istanbul next year—obviously by plane—and then take the train from Istanbul to Antalya. Has anyone here already made this trip by train with TCDD?
I’d love any tips or info that could be useful for us!
I'd like to go to Montserrat on my own from Barcelona. Share your suggestions with me.
Which train should I take, where to get off, what to see once I arrive, etc.
Hi there,
I need to take a sleeper train from Bangkok to Vientiane in January. I found some ticket options on 12Go Asia, but booking doesn’t seem possible at the moment. I’ve tried simulations for several dates, but no luck. I’m wondering if it’s already fully booked, if they’ve stopped selling tickets… yet 12Go still features it every day 😕
Has anyone else run into this issue? Can I find tickets on another site? (I tried Baolau, but no sleepers left for January 8th.)
Thanks!
I need to take a sleeper train from Bangkok to Vientiane in January. I found some ticket options on 12Go Asia, but booking doesn’t seem possible at the moment. I’ve tried simulations for several dates, but no luck. I’m wondering if it’s already fully booked, if they’ve stopped selling tickets… yet 12Go still features it every day 😕
Has anyone else run into this issue? Can I find tickets on another site? (I tried Baolau, but no sleepers left for January 8th.)
Thanks!
Hi there,
I’m a bit late to be worrying about this, but hopefully someone can help me before I leave.
Tomorrow afternoon, I arrive at Lyon Part-Dieu on the TGV at 5:50 PM and take the TER to Mâcon at 6:16 PM. Is a 26-minute transfer doable? Are the TGV and TER on the same departure board? And are they on the same platforms too?
I’ve been to Lyon before but never had to make a connection after arriving.
Thanks
Hi there,
I can’t seem to complete the payment for my trip on the IRCTC (Indian Railways) site. No matter which payment method I choose, my Visa card isn’t accepted. Has anyone here managed to do it, and if so, could you share the method you used? Thanks in advance! Charlie
I can’t seem to complete the payment for my trip on the IRCTC (Indian Railways) site. No matter which payment method I choose, my Visa card isn’t accepted. Has anyone here managed to do it, and if so, could you share the method you used? Thanks in advance! Charlie
Hello,
Starting November 15th, I’ll be arriving in Thailand, and during my stay, I plan to visit the north, around the Chiang Mai area, then head south to the Krabi region. After Krabi, I’m planning to take an overnight train to Bangkok. I was wondering if there’s a train that leaves from Krabi or Trang, or if I absolutely have to go to Surat Thani? Also, which official website can I use to book my ticket?
Next, since I’ll be arriving at dawn in Bangkok, I’ve planned to spend 2 days in Kanchanaburi. What’s the most convenient way to get there—bus or train? And if you know any companies or websites, that’d be great.
Thanks for your tips!
Fred
Starting November 15th, I’ll be arriving in Thailand, and during my stay, I plan to visit the north, around the Chiang Mai area, then head south to the Krabi region. After Krabi, I’m planning to take an overnight train to Bangkok. I was wondering if there’s a train that leaves from Krabi or Trang, or if I absolutely have to go to Surat Thani? Also, which official website can I use to book my ticket?
Next, since I’ll be arriving at dawn in Bangkok, I’ve planned to spend 2 days in Kanchanaburi. What’s the most convenient way to get there—bus or train? And if you know any companies or websites, that’d be great.
Thanks for your tips!
Fred
Hi! I arrive in Vancouver on August 24, 2025, and I’m staying until Friday, August 29, 2025—the day I take *The Canadian* train to Toronto.
I’m exploring several things in Vancouver, including whale watching—if you’ve got any great tips, don’t hesitate! Thanks!
I’m exploring several things in Vancouver, including whale watching—if you’ve got any great tips, don’t hesitate! Thanks!
Hi there,
Does anyone know if there’s a bus from Luang Namtha to Boten to catch the train coming from China to Vientiane? If so, what’s the name of the company? Also, how long does the bus take to cover that distance? What’s the condition of the road like?
Thanks for your help!
Tom
I just realized there’s only one payment method accepted for booking the Mombasa-Nairobi express train ticket online: M-Pesa, a mobile money transfer service used in Africa. Would it be impossible to book as a European?
Hi
Have any of you booked tickets through rail.ninja?
Hi there,
I’d love to know if any of you have recently eaten on the overnight train from Bangkok to Chiang Mai.
We’ve always ordered food on the train, and it was really good (and super convenient). But in 2022, we ended up feeling like total idiots (with our 4-year-old daughter...) when we boarded the train only to find out that this service was no longer available... (It was the first time we’d traveled right after COVID.)
That’s also when we saw once again how kind Thai people are—they all offered to share their food with us, even though we were mortified. In the end, we managed to buy some instant noodles, which was better than nothing. Anyway, that’s the little story behind it.
In the following years, we’ve always brought our own meals.
I’ve read online that meal trays are back in service (could you confirm this, please?), but that the quality is really poor. I’ve also seen multiple reports that, even though you can eat well everywhere in Thailand, the train meal was the worst food travelers had during their trip...
Could you give me a recent opinion on this? We’ll be departing from Krung Thep Aphiwat Central Station—do you know if there’s anywhere to buy a meal there before boarding the train?
Thanks so much for your help, and have a great Sunday!
I’d love to know if any of you have recently eaten on the overnight train from Bangkok to Chiang Mai.
We’ve always ordered food on the train, and it was really good (and super convenient). But in 2022, we ended up feeling like total idiots (with our 4-year-old daughter...) when we boarded the train only to find out that this service was no longer available... (It was the first time we’d traveled right after COVID.)
That’s also when we saw once again how kind Thai people are—they all offered to share their food with us, even though we were mortified. In the end, we managed to buy some instant noodles, which was better than nothing. Anyway, that’s the little story behind it.
In the following years, we’ve always brought our own meals.
I’ve read online that meal trays are back in service (could you confirm this, please?), but that the quality is really poor. I’ve also seen multiple reports that, even though you can eat well everywhere in Thailand, the train meal was the worst food travelers had during their trip...
Could you give me a recent opinion on this? We’ll be departing from Krung Thep Aphiwat Central Station—do you know if there’s anywhere to buy a meal there before boarding the train?
Thanks so much for your help, and have a great Sunday!
Hi there,
We’re heading to Thailand in February 2026 and we’d like to take the overnight train from Bangkok to Chiang Mai. Can we book two first-class tickets? I’m only seeing second-class options.
Thanks
We’re heading to Thailand in February 2026 and we’d like to take the overnight train from Bangkok to Chiang Mai. Can we book two first-class tickets? I’m only seeing second-class options.
Thanks
Hi everyone,
For traveling in Rajasthan by train and bus, could you give me some info: where to buy tickets, cost, purchase locations, websites, etc.?
Any tips you have would be super helpful.
Thanks
Hi there,
We’re traveling to Java on October 23, just the two of us. I’ve read that it’s best to book train tickets in advance on tiket.com. Is that true, and how far ahead do you recommend? Are the tickets changeable?
Thanks for your help!
Nicole
We’re traveling to Java on October 23, just the two of us. I’ve read that it’s best to book train tickets in advance on tiket.com. Is that true, and how far ahead do you recommend? Are the tickets changeable?
Thanks for your help!
Nicole
Hi everyone,
I’m planning to travel from Ulaanbaatar to Irkutsk by train this summer but I’m a bit worried about crossing the borders. How does it work? Could anyone share their experience? (I’ve found quite a few accounts of people going *from* Russia *to* Mongolia, but entering a country is never the same as leaving it—especially in this context!)
Thanks in advance! 😊
Thanks in advance! 😊
Hi
Can anyone tell me how to book train tickets online? We're planning to travel from HANOI to HO CHI MINH CITY by train, making several stops along the way. I'd also like to find the schedules and the stations where the trains stop.
There are four of us, and we've already planned stops in HANOI / DONG HOI / HUE.
Thanks in advance to anyone who can help!
Mounette74
Can anyone tell me how to book train tickets online? We're planning to travel from HANOI to HO CHI MINH CITY by train, making several stops along the way. I'd also like to find the schedules and the stations where the trains stop.
There are four of us, and we've already planned stops in HANOI / DONG HOI / HUE.
Thanks in advance to anyone who can help!
Mounette74






