S'installer à Santiago du Chili: santé, argent, logement...
by Cephee06
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Bonjour
ma fille de 25 ans va s'installer en septembre 2011 à Santiago pour 2 ans minimum (elle y a déjà passé 6 mois comme étudiante en 2009); elle a son contrat de travail et est en train de faire les démarches pour le visa. Nous avons plusieurs questions concernant:
* la santé: y a t il l'équivalent d'une sécurité sociale et des mutuelles de santé? faut il prendre une assurance santé complémentaire en France ?
* le logement: touve t on facilement des appartements meublés à louer? sinon l'équipement d'un appartement loué vide est il onéreux ? (meubles, électroménager etc ..)? existe t il des assurances "habitation" ?
* est il aisé d'ouvrir un compte bancaire au Chili? y a t il des banques françaises qui ont des liens avec le Chili et permettent de "jongler" avec le compte français?
* Comment cela se passe t il pour les impôts (en France et au Chili), les cotisations retraite etc ...
merci d'avance pour vos conseils
Santé. il existe au Chili 2 systèmes pour la santé: le système public (FONASA) et le système privé (ISAPRE). Pour des raisons de coûts de plus en plus de personnes passent du 2e au 1er.
Il existe différentes théories sur quel système utiliser en théorie ISAPRE est meilleur car comme c'est plus cher l'attention est meilleure (en théorie), mais il faut souvent lire les petits caractères pour éviter les mauvaises surprises (du genre aller dans un hôpital qui n'a pas un accord avec son ISAPRE). Tout le monde ne peut pas entrer dans une ISAPRE, ma femme par exemple n'a pas passé pour être diabétique, même si elle avait fait un wagon d'examens certifiant son bon état de santé aucun docteur de l'ISAPRE n'a voulu l'accepter.
FONASA est moins cher et beaucoup plus populaire ce qui signifie que tous les docteurs ou centre médicaux n'acceptent pas des patients qui y sont affiliés (en fait on peut toujours avoir un rdv mais il faut payer plein pot, expérience faite :-( ). Les médicaments ne sont pas très bien remboursé, ma femme qui est avec FONASA n'a jamais eu un médicament remboursé.
Je connais plusieurs personnes qui sont avec FONASA et qui, ayant les moyens, ont contractés une assurance complémentaire en cas de coup dur.
Compte bancaire. Je pourrais écrire des pages sur toutes les difficultés que j'ai eues pour ouvrir un compte en banque. Dans deux banques ont m'a soupçonné de vouloir laver de l'argent sale, et on me l'a dit sans anesthésie. Mais d’après ce que je vois cela sera plus facile pour votre fille car moi je suis venu comme indépendant, en ayant un contrat de travail et bonne et due forme cela sera plus facile. De nouveau attention aux conditions, il y a des comptes qui permettent un nombre limité de retrait gratis. De toute manière avoir un compte en banque est vital pour ne pas perdre trop de temps pour les paiements. Peut-être qu'au début elle aura un compte en banque sans chéquier et sans carte de crédit. Les cartes de crédit bancaires ne sont pas a la portée du plus grand nombre au Chili (je dis bancaires car il y a d'autres cartes de crédit des grands magasins elles le sont, hélas pour beaucoup voir les niouzes sur La Polar ici)
Impôts et retraite. Le système d’impôt fonctionne bien, comme employé cela sera encore plus facile et tout se fait par Internet depuis des années. Pour la retraite vous devrez peut-être (en obligatoire si vous adhérez a FONASA) vous incorporez à une AFP où payerez un % de votre feuille de paie. Comme je ne suis pas Français je ne sais pas comment fonctionne avec ce pays mais moi je déclare mes revenus et je continue a cotiser la retraite dans mon pays d'origine.
Essayez ce site pour plus d'infos.
Il existe différentes théories sur quel système utiliser en théorie ISAPRE est meilleur car comme c'est plus cher l'attention est meilleure (en théorie), mais il faut souvent lire les petits caractères pour éviter les mauvaises surprises (du genre aller dans un hôpital qui n'a pas un accord avec son ISAPRE). Tout le monde ne peut pas entrer dans une ISAPRE, ma femme par exemple n'a pas passé pour être diabétique, même si elle avait fait un wagon d'examens certifiant son bon état de santé aucun docteur de l'ISAPRE n'a voulu l'accepter.
FONASA est moins cher et beaucoup plus populaire ce qui signifie que tous les docteurs ou centre médicaux n'acceptent pas des patients qui y sont affiliés (en fait on peut toujours avoir un rdv mais il faut payer plein pot, expérience faite :-( ). Les médicaments ne sont pas très bien remboursé, ma femme qui est avec FONASA n'a jamais eu un médicament remboursé.
Je connais plusieurs personnes qui sont avec FONASA et qui, ayant les moyens, ont contractés une assurance complémentaire en cas de coup dur.
Compte bancaire. Je pourrais écrire des pages sur toutes les difficultés que j'ai eues pour ouvrir un compte en banque. Dans deux banques ont m'a soupçonné de vouloir laver de l'argent sale, et on me l'a dit sans anesthésie. Mais d’après ce que je vois cela sera plus facile pour votre fille car moi je suis venu comme indépendant, en ayant un contrat de travail et bonne et due forme cela sera plus facile. De nouveau attention aux conditions, il y a des comptes qui permettent un nombre limité de retrait gratis. De toute manière avoir un compte en banque est vital pour ne pas perdre trop de temps pour les paiements. Peut-être qu'au début elle aura un compte en banque sans chéquier et sans carte de crédit. Les cartes de crédit bancaires ne sont pas a la portée du plus grand nombre au Chili (je dis bancaires car il y a d'autres cartes de crédit des grands magasins elles le sont, hélas pour beaucoup voir les niouzes sur La Polar ici)
Impôts et retraite. Le système d’impôt fonctionne bien, comme employé cela sera encore plus facile et tout se fait par Internet depuis des années. Pour la retraite vous devrez peut-être (en obligatoire si vous adhérez a FONASA) vous incorporez à une AFP où payerez un % de votre feuille de paie. Comme je ne suis pas Français je ne sais pas comment fonctionne avec ce pays mais moi je déclare mes revenus et je continue a cotiser la retraite dans mon pays d'origine.
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Jean-Luc
http://www.8va.cl
Merci beaucoup pour ces informations, que je vais transmettre à ma fille avec les liens ; elle a effectivement entendu parler de 2 systèmes de santé "un pour les riches, un pour les pauvres" et est en train de se renseigner pour cotiser à une mutuelle de santé et à la retraite pour les français à l'étranger, mais ce serait de l'ordre de 500 € par mois !!!
Elle se pose aussi des questions sur ce qu'elle doit emporter au Chili car elle va avoir droit à une grosse valise ou une petite malle : d'après vous , qu'est ce qui est le plus difficile à se procurer au Chili et qu'il vaut mieux apporter avec soir ?
cordialement
Monique
elle a effectivement entendu parler de 2 systèmes de santé "un pour les riches, un pour les pauvres"
C'est peut-être un peu caricaturale. 😉
d'après vous , qu'est ce qui est le plus difficile à se procurer au Chili et qu'il vaut mieux apporter avec soir ? cordialement
Difficile question, c'est bien personnel. A priori je dirais rien, comme elle est déjà venue en 2009 elle sait ce qui l'attend, Santiago est une très grande ville ou on peut trouver de presque tout. Maintenant si elle a besoin d'un truc ultra pointu que vous trouvez seulement dans un commerce très spécialisé de France il y a 2 solutions ou elle l'emporte avec elle ou .... elle apprend a s'en passer 🤪. Pour l'anecdote les seules choses que je n'ai jamais trouvé et qui me manque (je vis en province, cela peut faire la différence) ce sont des mélanges de fromage pour fondue et le trackball de Logitech. Pour le 1er et bien j'ai du baisser ma consommation (je remercie ma famille qui par pitié m'en envoie 1 ou 2x par an) et pour l'autre je le fais venir d'Europe. 😎 Et coté magazines ici il n'y a (presque) rien en Français, il y a au centre de Santiago un kiosque qui vend parfois des magazines (retirés des avions qui arrivent d'Europe) si non je les commande (l'envoi me coute parfois presque autant que les magazines)
C'est peut-être un peu caricaturale. 😉
d'après vous , qu'est ce qui est le plus difficile à se procurer au Chili et qu'il vaut mieux apporter avec soir ? cordialement
Difficile question, c'est bien personnel. A priori je dirais rien, comme elle est déjà venue en 2009 elle sait ce qui l'attend, Santiago est une très grande ville ou on peut trouver de presque tout. Maintenant si elle a besoin d'un truc ultra pointu que vous trouvez seulement dans un commerce très spécialisé de France il y a 2 solutions ou elle l'emporte avec elle ou .... elle apprend a s'en passer 🤪. Pour l'anecdote les seules choses que je n'ai jamais trouvé et qui me manque (je vis en province, cela peut faire la différence) ce sont des mélanges de fromage pour fondue et le trackball de Logitech. Pour le 1er et bien j'ai du baisser ma consommation (je remercie ma famille qui par pitié m'en envoie 1 ou 2x par an) et pour l'autre je le fais venir d'Europe. 😎 Et coté magazines ici il n'y a (presque) rien en Français, il y a au centre de Santiago un kiosque qui vend parfois des magazines (retirés des avions qui arrivent d'Europe) si non je les commande (l'envoi me coute parfois presque autant que les magazines)
Jean-Luc
http://www.8va.cl
merci pour ces informations complémentaires, que je lui transmets. Apparemment son contrat de travail comporte une affiliation à "Isapre" mais si j'ai bien compris elle doit choisir entre plusieurs "cliniques ou groupe de cliniques"? pour la banque, elle cherche une banque qui serait présente en France et au Chili pour faciliter la gestion de ses comptes . Pour la retraite , elle n'a pas encore "creusé" le sujet!
Encore merci pour ces informations
une banque qui serait présente en France et au Chili pour faciliter la gestion de ses comptes
Comme elle va travailler et vivre au Chili ce serait bien aussi d'avoir une banque locale populaire, cela facilite beaucoup la vie pour les paiements de service.
Comme elle va travailler et vivre au Chili ce serait bien aussi d'avoir une banque locale populaire, cela facilite beaucoup la vie pour les paiements de service.
Jean-Luc
http://www.8va.cl
pour la banque, elle cherche une banque qui serait présente en France et au Chili pour faciliter la gestion de ses comptes
Je réponds peut-être un peu tard, mais la banque BBVA est présente en France et au Chili (il s'agit d'une banque espagnole). Sinon la Scotia bank (présente au Chili) est une banque correspondante avec la BNP.
Je réponds peut-être un peu tard, mais la banque BBVA est présente en France et au Chili (il s'agit d'une banque espagnole). Sinon la Scotia bank (présente au Chili) est une banque correspondante avec la BNP.
Bonjour,
Si vous cherchez toujours un appartement, je dispose en centre ville a Santiago un appartement:
Voici l'annonce sur VoyageForum:
A louer a l'annee, appartement en centre ville a partir d'octobre 2011.
L'appartement est situe a Santiago Centre. Bouche de Metro a 5o metres, service de bus, centre commercial, banques, pharmacies, restaurants, 1 minute en metro de la Plaza de Armas, Mall, avenues pietonnes, divers commerces, etc.
L'appartement comprend trois (3) chambres, cuisine, SDB, Salon, petite terrasse, et aussi et cela est quasi impossible a trouver a Santiago, un parking prive.
Il est meuble, il comprend aussi une machine a laver et secher le linge, le telephone, l'internet rapide 8 mega. Le batiment est securise.
Convient parfaitement pour les etudiants dans la mesure ou la plus part des Universites sont situees a quelques minutes en metro.
Prix de la location: 600 euro mensuel. Cela inclus, le gaz de ville, l'electricite.
A votre charge, le telephone et l'internet et les charges de copropriete.
Si vous cherchez toujours un appartement, je dispose en centre ville a Santiago un appartement:
Voici l'annonce sur VoyageForum:
A louer a l'annee, appartement en centre ville a partir d'octobre 2011.
L'appartement est situe a Santiago Centre. Bouche de Metro a 5o metres, service de bus, centre commercial, banques, pharmacies, restaurants, 1 minute en metro de la Plaza de Armas, Mall, avenues pietonnes, divers commerces, etc.
L'appartement comprend trois (3) chambres, cuisine, SDB, Salon, petite terrasse, et aussi et cela est quasi impossible a trouver a Santiago, un parking prive.
Il est meuble, il comprend aussi une machine a laver et secher le linge, le telephone, l'internet rapide 8 mega. Le batiment est securise.
Convient parfaitement pour les etudiants dans la mesure ou la plus part des Universites sont situees a quelques minutes en metro.
Prix de la location: 600 euro mensuel. Cela inclus, le gaz de ville, l'electricite.
A votre charge, le telephone et l'internet et les charges de copropriete.

Soy mujeriego, no lo soy por prestigio, lo soy porque me gusta
merci pour cette information; elle a trouvé HSBC qui lui a permis d'ouvrir un compte chilien avant de partir de France et qui rend plus aisé les échanges entre compte en France et compte au Chili.
Elle est arrivée à Santiago la semaine dernière et a commencé son travail; elle vient de trouver un appartement meublé (2 pièces) dans le centre. Mais ses démarches ont été un peu perturbée par les grèves et manifestations en cours
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About my background: • I earned a *Bac Pro* through VAE (*Validation des Acquis de l’Expérience*), issued by the *Éducation nationale*. • I also have a professional certification as a *Conseiller en Insertion* (Employment Counselor), issued by the Ministry of Labor. • Altogether, this adds up to a *Bac+2* level.
I’d like to know if this level qualifies me to apply for the DV Lottery.
Regarding my work experience: • I work as an *Employment Counselor*. • I checked on O*Net Online for the classification: Job Zone 4, SVP Range: 7.0 – <8.0. • I only have one year of experience, but I handle similar tasks in business creation.
So my question is: can I apply for the DV Lottery despite my relatively short experience, given that my job falls under Job Zone 4?
Thanks in advance for your answers and advice! !
I’d like to get some information about my eligibility for the DV Lottery.
About my background: • I earned a *Bac Pro* through VAE (*Validation des Acquis de l’Expérience*), issued by the *Éducation nationale*. • I also have a professional certification as a *Conseiller en Insertion* (Employment Counselor), issued by the Ministry of Labor. • Altogether, this adds up to a *Bac+2* level.
I’d like to know if this level qualifies me to apply for the DV Lottery.
Regarding my work experience: • I work as an *Employment Counselor*. • I checked on O*Net Online for the classification: Job Zone 4, SVP Range: 7.0 – <8.0. • I only have one year of experience, but I handle similar tasks in business creation.
So my question is: can I apply for the DV Lottery despite my relatively short experience, given that my job falls under Job Zone 4?
Thanks in advance for your answers and advice! !
Hi everyone,
I’m looking for info on villages around Aix, like Fuveau, Bouc-Bel-Air, or even Éguilles and Venelles? We’re a couple with a child living in the Paris region, and I’ll be relocating to Aix-en-Provence in spring 2026. We’d love to swap our apartment for a house with a pool within 20-30 minutes max of central Aix, with a budget of around 650k €.
In terms of climate and geography, I’ve read that Aix is in a basin where it can get really hot. What about the surrounding villages that are a bit more elevated, like Venelles? Is it just as stifling?
For a family, which area would you recommend?
Thanks in advance for your replies!
I’m looking for info on villages around Aix, like Fuveau, Bouc-Bel-Air, or even Éguilles and Venelles? We’re a couple with a child living in the Paris region, and I’ll be relocating to Aix-en-Provence in spring 2026. We’d love to swap our apartment for a house with a pool within 20-30 minutes max of central Aix, with a budget of around 650k €.
In terms of climate and geography, I’ve read that Aix is in a basin where it can get really hot. What about the surrounding villages that are a bit more elevated, like Venelles? Is it just as stifling?
For a family, which area would you recommend?
Thanks in advance for your replies!
Starting this spring, we want to settle near Aix-en-Provence. We're tired of living in the mountains with all the snow—we really need some sunshine and a fresh start. Is it hard to find a house to rent there? What about prices? If you have any great tips or useful info about the area, we’d love to hear it. I work in education and want to do prevention work in Marseille or Aix—are there jobs in the social sector?
Anyway, we need tons of info, but we’re sure we’re going to take the leap—no hesitation, adventure is adventure!!! Thanks for your help and any experiences you can share.
Anyway, we need tons of info, but we’re sure we’re going to take the leap—no hesitation, adventure is adventure!!! Thanks for your help and any experiences you can share.
Hi,
I’m an osteopath and I’d like to set up and open an osteopathy practice in Thailand. I don’t have a precise location in mind yet, but I’m thinking maybe Hua Hin. I saw there’s an osteopath based in Phuket, so I wrote to him for some info, but he still hasn’t replied🤪!
So I’m reaching out to people who live there or know the country well: I’d like to know what the best ways are to advertise and get known in Thailand. Are there any local classifieds newspapers? First, I’d like to practice from my apartment. Is that allowed in Thailand? Ideally, I’d like to work part-time in a private hospital as an osteopath. I’m thinking that in Thailand, the medical field is much more open than in Europe!!! Has anyone seen an osteopath or chiropractor working in a Thai hospital? Do you know the price of a consultation?
Any info you can share will be super helpful! Thanks in advance[;)!!!]
I’m an osteopath and I’d like to set up and open an osteopathy practice in Thailand. I don’t have a precise location in mind yet, but I’m thinking maybe Hua Hin. I saw there’s an osteopath based in Phuket, so I wrote to him for some info, but he still hasn’t replied🤪!
So I’m reaching out to people who live there or know the country well: I’d like to know what the best ways are to advertise and get known in Thailand. Are there any local classifieds newspapers? First, I’d like to practice from my apartment. Is that allowed in Thailand? Ideally, I’d like to work part-time in a private hospital as an osteopath. I’m thinking that in Thailand, the medical field is much more open than in Europe!!! Has anyone seen an osteopath or chiropractor working in a Thai hospital? Do you know the price of a consultation?
Any info you can share will be super helpful! Thanks in advance[;)!!!]
Hello everyone,
We’re a small family from the south of France, with a 2-year-old little boy, and we’re dreaming of starting a new adventure abroad by opening our own business. For now, we haven’t chosen a specific destination yet.
We mainly speak French, with a basic level of Spanish and English, and we’re ready to improve these two languages if needed. We’re looking for a multicultural, safe country with quality healthcare and good schools accessible for our son. We’d also love a pleasant place with a mild climate where life is good.
Our idea is to travel to different countries to explore, compare, and refine our project. We’d be really happy to read your tips, experiences, or anecdotes if you’ve already undertaken a similar project or if you know key points to anticipate.
Thanks in advance for your shares and help—it would really help us move forward with our project! 😄
Hi everyone,
I’m heading to Dublin as an au pair in a few weeks.
I’m looking for a reputable language school. It’s so hard to choose! Has anyone already done a language stay in Dublin? Any tips? Thanks so much! :)
Hi everyone, so I’m planning to go study at a community college in the U.S., but the only snag is which one—there are so many options over there! I’ve heard about one in California, Diablo Valley College, and another in Florida, Valencia College. I know both states are super attractive for tourism, but my main criteria are teaching quality and price. I’m open to any advice, comments, or suggestions—thanks in advance! The start of the semester is coming up, and I’m a little nervous...
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Hi,
Has anyone gone on a language study trip in Europe? If so, which agencies did you use? What can you tell me about it? Thanks a lot! Kelkune
Has anyone gone on a language study trip in Europe? If so, which agencies did you use? What can you tell me about it? Thanks a lot! Kelkune
Hi! I’m looking for an apartment in Malaga from September (2025) until January for my Erasmus exchange, but I’m not finding much, and it seems like there are a lot of scams. Does anyone have any leads or tips? Thanks!^^