Sécurité suite aux derniers évènements en Afrique du Sud? (mai 2008)
by Soliles
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour à tous. Bien que ce soit ma première intervention sur ce forum, voilà plusieurs mois que je vous lis et m'inspire de vos conseils pour la préparation d'un voyage de sept semaines en Afrique du Sud, Botswana et Namibie. Je comptais bien vous revenir avec quelques retours d'expérience, mais voilà .... En réalité, je suis censé déposer un camion d'expédition aménagé camping car le quatre juin à Anvers, direction Durban, avec arrivée le 27 juin. Ensuite, traversée rapide de l'Afrique du Sud pour récupérer ma famille à Windhoek, et se ballader en Namibie et Botswana. Je me pose la question de savoir si les récents évènements 'ethniques' en A.S. ne constituent pas un obstacle au niveau sécurité, pour le débarquement à Durban et le trajet vers la Namibie. J'ai appellé l'ambassade à Bruxelles, qui tout en minimisant la portée des évènements pour les touristes, conseille d'attendre quelques jours pour voir l'évolution de la situation. Je n'ai pas le temps de prendre du recul car je dois confirmer les vols et embarquer le camion dans moins de dix jours. Quelqu'un d'avisé a t-il un conseil? Merci d'avance.
Bonsoir, Non, je ne crois vraiment pas que les évenements actuels changent quelque chose à la sécurité en générale en Afrique du sud: ces événements sont concentrés dans les townships, que vous ne traverserez pas, et sont dirigés contre les étrangers africains.
Bonne route,
Mazarine
Mazarine
"The miracle is not to fly in the air or to walk on the water, but to walk on earth" Chinese proverb
SOLILES
salut
ce ne sont pas de simples evenements ethniques....ce sont des violences xenophobes en AFRIQUE DU SUD
avec un taux de criminalité le plus elevé au monde à JOHANNESBOURG....ce phenomene deborde des townships
pour affecter DURBAN et CAPETOWN et est entrain de faire tache d'huile sur fond de frustrations économiques
de pres de 40 pct de la population qui vivent dans la misere et le chomage...c'est une honte de dire que cela
concerne les étrangers AFRICAINS ....autrement dit que les touristes blans ne sont pas concernés...
cultiver de nouveau l'APARTHEID ethnique ...c'est dommage pour l'AFRIQUE DU SUD qui l'a combattu avec
MANDELA ...et qui prepare le MUNDIAL de 2010....que de pays prosperes n'ont rien fait de leur independance
arrachée apres tant de souffrances et de sacrifices, et qui ont laissé leurs populations dans le denouement
et la marginalisation ...
njm
njm
njm
Bonjour à tous et à toutes,
Pour une fois j'interviens. Depuis de long mois je suis le forum Afrique du sud car nous y venons pour 3 semaines 1/2 en juillet. Comme toutes les personnes qui viennent durant les mois suivants je suis "intéressée" par la situation actuelle d'affrontement. Sans vouloir contre dire, les différents journaux francophones ou anglophones, ainsi que les différentes personnes vivants sur place donnes les mêmes informations : à savoir qu'il existe réellement un problème inter ethnique. Certes les africains du sud ont subi pendant des années l'apartheid, et c'est justement la fin de cet apartheid qui leur a donné à nouveau le droit de "rêver", d'espérer de vivre comme "tout le monde" mais leur espoir fond comme neige au soleil car comme tous pays en plein essor économique il attire les habitants des pays voisins qui aimeraient bénéficier du "gâteau"... Alors le problème est qu'il ne s'agit plus de racisme mais de problème de fond. C'est peut être à nous tous, habitants de la planète terre à faire en sorte que lors de nos voyages nous ne faisions pas que de voir mais de participer à la vie locale en leur permettant d'acquérir un certain pouvoir d'achat, en leur donnant le moyen de s'ouvrir sur les autres et de leur montrer que nous autres (européen dans mon cas) nous sommes fières du combat qu'ils ont su mener durant toutes les années de l'apartheid et que en fonction de nos moyens nous sommes prêts à les aider (en achetant de l'artisanat, en mangeant local et non pas dans des grosses chaines). Juste un dernier petit avis : ce forum est un "lieu" de rencontre alors essayons à travers nos mails de pratiquer un minimun de courtoisie et de respect de l'opinion de l'autre.
Tout ceci n'est naturellement que mon humble avis, Bonne journée à tous et à toutes Claire
Pour une fois j'interviens. Depuis de long mois je suis le forum Afrique du sud car nous y venons pour 3 semaines 1/2 en juillet. Comme toutes les personnes qui viennent durant les mois suivants je suis "intéressée" par la situation actuelle d'affrontement. Sans vouloir contre dire, les différents journaux francophones ou anglophones, ainsi que les différentes personnes vivants sur place donnes les mêmes informations : à savoir qu'il existe réellement un problème inter ethnique. Certes les africains du sud ont subi pendant des années l'apartheid, et c'est justement la fin de cet apartheid qui leur a donné à nouveau le droit de "rêver", d'espérer de vivre comme "tout le monde" mais leur espoir fond comme neige au soleil car comme tous pays en plein essor économique il attire les habitants des pays voisins qui aimeraient bénéficier du "gâteau"... Alors le problème est qu'il ne s'agit plus de racisme mais de problème de fond. C'est peut être à nous tous, habitants de la planète terre à faire en sorte que lors de nos voyages nous ne faisions pas que de voir mais de participer à la vie locale en leur permettant d'acquérir un certain pouvoir d'achat, en leur donnant le moyen de s'ouvrir sur les autres et de leur montrer que nous autres (européen dans mon cas) nous sommes fières du combat qu'ils ont su mener durant toutes les années de l'apartheid et que en fonction de nos moyens nous sommes prêts à les aider (en achetant de l'artisanat, en mangeant local et non pas dans des grosses chaines). Juste un dernier petit avis : ce forum est un "lieu" de rencontre alors essayons à travers nos mails de pratiquer un minimun de courtoisie et de respect de l'opinion de l'autre.
Tout ceci n'est naturellement que mon humble avis, Bonne journée à tous et à toutes Claire
De tels événements doivent effectivement correspondre à un problème de fond. Ma question est simple : est-il dangereux de partir en Afrique du sud dans les semaines, les mois à venir ?
Notre parcours est : JNB(aeroport) --> kruger --> swaziland--> pays zoulou --> JNB (aeroport) en 12 jours, en voiture de location, logement en hotel.
merci pour vos réponses ?
PS :Y a t-il eu des agressions envers des touristes suite aux événements ?
nirues
C'est peut être à nous tous, habitants de la planète terre à faire en sorte que lors de nos voyages nous ne faisions pas que de voir mais de participer à la vie locale en leur permettant d'acquérir un certain pouvoir d'achat, en leur donnant le moyen de s'ouvrir sur les autres
ok c'est bien, mais donne un exemple, que fais tu pour ça ? quelle participation fais tu pour leur pouvoir d'achat ? en $$$ bien sur, sachant que les paroles ne nourrissent pas les hommes. qu'es tu prête a faire ? on te suivra ss doute....
(en achetant de l'artisanat, en mangeant local et non pas dans des grosses chaines). tu participes plus sans doute avec les chaines hotelieres, ils ont du personnel... et le font vivre non ? arretons de rêver.
ok c'est bien, mais donne un exemple, que fais tu pour ça ? quelle participation fais tu pour leur pouvoir d'achat ? en $$$ bien sur, sachant que les paroles ne nourrissent pas les hommes. qu'es tu prête a faire ? on te suivra ss doute....
(en achetant de l'artisanat, en mangeant local et non pas dans des grosses chaines). tu participes plus sans doute avec les chaines hotelieres, ils ont du personnel... et le font vivre non ? arretons de rêver.
bonjour
je partage totalemnt le message precedent et on peut rapprocher cette discussion d une discussion surle forum namibie à peu pres identique
les belles ides genereuses, les envolees ecologico-humanistes c est tres bien....mais ce qui permet aux gens de ces pays de vivre c est aussi la presence de touristes ocidentaux qui depensent leur argent et leur procurent un peu de travail .
sinon on transforme ces regions en "reserve"de l humanite et on laisse la population crever de faim au milieu es lions et des elephants
dans le repect des populations bien sur et de leur identite ainsi que du cadre de vie je suis certain qu elles preferent recevoir des touristes que rester seules à se regarder le nombril.
bon voyage
oui, vivant a mada souvent, je sais que souvent ce sont les memes qui parlent de tourisme humanitaire, de participation directe a la vie des gens et qui négocient le gadget pour gagner 50 cts d'Euro, le pareo, et qui ont de belles paroles, mais quand on leur demande de mettre la main au portefeuille pour faire qq chose, là...... C'est pas pareil,
et la propension de gens voulant éviter les hôtels classiques au profit des boui/bouis ou chez "l'habitant" n'a rien d'humanitaire, mais n'est que pour éviter de payer ces memes hotels. On vit ça tous les jours.....
j'en ai meme connu un, chez moi, invité, gratos, qui m'a reproché que la chambre etait "petite" alors qu'il avait la clim, et surtout qu'il etait invité.....
la cerise sur le gateau......
Bonjour Claire,
Pour ma part, j'avoue humblement ne jamais avoir mis les pieds en Afrique du Sud. Cependant, j'imagine assez mal la plus grande majotité des touristes dans ce pays, revenir at home, sans le moindre souvenir artisanal local, ou ne s'étant approvisionné que dans de "grosse chaines", selon ta propre expression...
Quant à l'idée de leur procurer un certain pouvoir d'achat au moyen de telles actions, on a beau savoir que les petits ruisseaux font les grandes rivières, cela me semble un peu désuet au regard de la réalité et de l'urgence d'une situation socio-économique de ce pays, dont les populations comptent certainement bien d'avantage sur des actions collectives, de la part d'ONG et de différents gouvernements, que sur le touriste qui se donne bonne conscience, en se disant faire un acte humanitaire en achetant une statuette en bois ou un grigri local... De ce qui se dégage de ton message, et ceci dit en toute cordialité et courtoisie, c'est ce qui me dérange le plus...
Pour ma part, j'avoue humblement ne jamais avoir mis les pieds en Afrique du Sud. Cependant, j'imagine assez mal la plus grande majotité des touristes dans ce pays, revenir at home, sans le moindre souvenir artisanal local, ou ne s'étant approvisionné que dans de "grosse chaines", selon ta propre expression...
Quant à l'idée de leur procurer un certain pouvoir d'achat au moyen de telles actions, on a beau savoir que les petits ruisseaux font les grandes rivières, cela me semble un peu désuet au regard de la réalité et de l'urgence d'une situation socio-économique de ce pays, dont les populations comptent certainement bien d'avantage sur des actions collectives, de la part d'ONG et de différents gouvernements, que sur le touriste qui se donne bonne conscience, en se disant faire un acte humanitaire en achetant une statuette en bois ou un grigri local... De ce qui se dégage de ton message, et ceci dit en toute cordialité et courtoisie, c'est ce qui me dérange le plus...
Bonjour,
D'emblée: désolé pour mon intervention qui n'apporte pas d'élément par rapport à cette discussion mais nous partons en Afrique australe pendant 4 mois de septembre à janvier et nous sommes maintenant en plein dans les recherche de transport de notre 4x4 vers l'Afrique du Sud.
Pourrais-tu, si tu trouves quelques minutes, nous dire quelle solution tu as mis en place pour ton transport?
Merci d'avance et bonne chance avec votre voyage!
Jimmy et Veronica
D'emblée: désolé pour mon intervention qui n'apporte pas d'élément par rapport à cette discussion mais nous partons en Afrique australe pendant 4 mois de septembre à janvier et nous sommes maintenant en plein dans les recherche de transport de notre 4x4 vers l'Afrique du Sud.
Pourrais-tu, si tu trouves quelques minutes, nous dire quelle solution tu as mis en place pour ton transport?
Merci d'avance et bonne chance avec votre voyage!
Jimmy et Veronica
Bonjour Jimmy et Veronica, et aussi parla même occasion, un grand merci à ceux qui se sont donnés la peine de répondre au message initial de ce débat. Nous avons finalement décidés de partir malgré les (petites) incertitudes du moment. Pour répondre plus spécifiquement à votre question, Jimmy et Veronica, nous envoyons notre camion sur Durban via un transitaire basé à Anvers qui a tout organisé pour nous, et dont voici en copié/collé les coordonnées. Service extrèmement agréable, très dévoué et professionnel.
Erwin Michiels
Project Manager
as agents only Generaal Lemanstraat 82 - 92 B - 2600 Berchem (Antwerpen) Tel: +32 (0)3 5453886 Fax: +32 (0)3 5453896 Skype: conti-expedan Email: e.michiels@contiexpedan.be Web: http://www.contiexpedan.be
Le retour, nous envisageons de le faire, à une date ultérieure, par la route. Ceci étant dit Erwin Michiels ( aucune Pub déguisée bien entendu) pourrait vous mettre en contact avec un collègue qui pourrait organiser le retour ( pas de Roro au retour). Coût approximatif (de mémoire) +/- 5000 Euro one way. Il faut savoir que notre camion fait +/- 8.5 m. X2.5 m. X3.9 m. L'essentiel est de ne pas négliger l'utilisation d'un carnet de passage en douane. Le contact de conti expedan sur place à Durban est tout aussi 'rassurant', mais là je ne pourrai en parler qu'après avoir ( ou ne pas avoir!) récupérer le véhicule, ... et son contenu. Car là aussi réside un problème potentiel, c'est qu'en principe le véhicule doit être vide, et qu'au cas contraire rien ne guaranti l'arrivée dans son intégralité du contenu. La cellule de notre camping car est presque inviolable ( verre sécurité, porte armé, cinq points, etc...), et j'ai absolument tout vidé dans la cellule camion, mais sait-on jamais...? Nous laisserons le C.C. chez des connaissances à Windhoek, et le récupérerons plus tard pour la remontée via le Kenya, l'Ethiopie, le Soudan et l'Egypte. Le Carnet de passage est valable pour un an, renouvelable.Attention aussi à la caution( 1.6% de la valeur déclarée), aux frais annexes de dossier, etc... Le coût de l'opération devient très vite élevé. Vu les circonsances en A.S, ma famille, qui partira une semaine plus tard ( en espérant que cela suffise!) me rejoindra par avion à Windhoek, où je les récupérerai après avoir effectuer le dédouanement et les 2.100 km. qui nous sépareront. C'est un timing un peu risqué, mais il fallait bien se donner quelques dates. Maintenant, il faut que je vous laisse, le camion devra être présenté au port à Anvers mercredi, et cela non plus ce n'est pas encore gagné, ... Au plaisir de vous lire tous sur ce forum, et bonne prépa à Jimmy et Veronica.
as agents only Generaal Lemanstraat 82 - 92 B - 2600 Berchem (Antwerpen) Tel: +32 (0)3 5453886 Fax: +32 (0)3 5453896 Skype: conti-expedan Email: e.michiels@contiexpedan.be Web: http://www.contiexpedan.be
Le retour, nous envisageons de le faire, à une date ultérieure, par la route. Ceci étant dit Erwin Michiels ( aucune Pub déguisée bien entendu) pourrait vous mettre en contact avec un collègue qui pourrait organiser le retour ( pas de Roro au retour). Coût approximatif (de mémoire) +/- 5000 Euro one way. Il faut savoir que notre camion fait +/- 8.5 m. X2.5 m. X3.9 m. L'essentiel est de ne pas négliger l'utilisation d'un carnet de passage en douane. Le contact de conti expedan sur place à Durban est tout aussi 'rassurant', mais là je ne pourrai en parler qu'après avoir ( ou ne pas avoir!) récupérer le véhicule, ... et son contenu. Car là aussi réside un problème potentiel, c'est qu'en principe le véhicule doit être vide, et qu'au cas contraire rien ne guaranti l'arrivée dans son intégralité du contenu. La cellule de notre camping car est presque inviolable ( verre sécurité, porte armé, cinq points, etc...), et j'ai absolument tout vidé dans la cellule camion, mais sait-on jamais...? Nous laisserons le C.C. chez des connaissances à Windhoek, et le récupérerons plus tard pour la remontée via le Kenya, l'Ethiopie, le Soudan et l'Egypte. Le Carnet de passage est valable pour un an, renouvelable.Attention aussi à la caution( 1.6% de la valeur déclarée), aux frais annexes de dossier, etc... Le coût de l'opération devient très vite élevé. Vu les circonsances en A.S, ma famille, qui partira une semaine plus tard ( en espérant que cela suffise!) me rejoindra par avion à Windhoek, où je les récupérerai après avoir effectuer le dédouanement et les 2.100 km. qui nous sépareront. C'est un timing un peu risqué, mais il fallait bien se donner quelques dates. Maintenant, il faut que je vous laisse, le camion devra être présenté au port à Anvers mercredi, et cela non plus ce n'est pas encore gagné, ... Au plaisir de vous lire tous sur ce forum, et bonne prépa à Jimmy et Veronica.
Bonjour à tous et à toutes,
Pour en revenir à notre discussion sur le fait "d'apporter une aide" voici mon expérience. Pour l'instant je ne suis jamais allée en Afrique du Sud donc je ne peux en aucun cas dire ce que j'apporterai humainement à ce pays ou non.
En ce qui concerne le Kenya :
Nous sommes une dizaine de femmes à avoir créer une association d'entraide pour des jeunes filles Masai (qui sont mariées très jeunes). Nous les aidons de la façon suivante :
nous financons la totalité de la scolarité de jeunes filles, de leur internat ainsi que vêtements et fournitures scolaires. Nous tenons à ce que chaque jeune fille soutenue est un réel échange avec la famille donatrice par le biais d'échange de courrier, de dessins, de petit cadeau style crayon de couleur ou autres. ( petit organisme car nous aidons 38 jeunes filles à ce jour).
Afin d'aller plus loin nous achetons de l'artisanat Masai aux femmes que nous revendons sur des marchés ou différentes manifestations en France et en Suisse. Ensuite les bénéfices sont redistribués aux femmes du village afin qu'elles aient un "poids" face à leur mari. Une de nous leur a appris également les rudiments d'un jardin. Une autre (infirmière kenyane) leur fournit régulièrement des notions d'hygiène et de geste utile en cas de problème de santé.
En ce qui concerne le Maroc :
Mon mari et moi aidons un petit village marocain de l'Atlas :
1èrement en donnant des vêtements et chaussures,
en fournissant des médicaments,
nous avons également formé quelques personnes aux gestes de 1er secours,
une amie gynécologue nous a accompagné pour donner des soins et surtout informer les femmes,
nous avons réussi à offrir un fauteuil roulant à une personne déficiente moteur.
Une famille a crée un "hôtel" pour randonneur.
En ce qui concerne Madagascar :
mon voisin et ami Malgache qui se rend à Mada au moins 2 fois par an apporte par ma contribution environ 20 attelles de genou toutes tailles, attelles de poignet. Apporte également des boîtes de Doliprane et Spasfon Lyoc. Par an
Je lui donne également environ 50 euros à chaque départ pour financer ce qu'il juge utile.
Certes comme vous le dites si bien ce n'est qu'une goutte d'eau, cela ne me donne même pas bonne conscience mais je fais un peu...
Alors oui en Afrique du Sud j'achéterai de l'Artisanat mais non je ne discuterai pas les prix,
Non je ne veux pas faire de l'écotourisme (éco pour économie !!!) ni du voyeurisme façon humanitaire mais il est vrai que j'apporte avec moi des vêtements dont je n'ai plus l'utilité que je donnerai à un Backpacker et il en fera ce qu'il voudra, j'apporte avec moi également une dizaine d'attelle de genou que je compte donner à un dispensaire.
Et je ne dormirai pas dans les grands hôtels mais dans des Backpackers, je mangerai ou bon me semble.
Mais j'apporte surtout mon sourire et ma volonté de rencontrer des hommes, des femmes, des enfants, d'origine multiraciale.
Ensuite je verrai si je pense pouvoir faire quelque chose de concret (et à long terme) pour aider ne serait-ce qu'une seule personne...
Bonne journée à tous et à toutes,
Je pars en Afrique du Sud du 2 au 27 juillet. Je ne manquerai pas de vous tenir informé sur ce voyage et sur sa suite.
Claire
Bonjour à toutes et à tous.
Alors enfin je trouve quelqu'un qui partage la meme vision !
Depuis le temps que je lis ce forum c'est vrai que ça me fait rire quand je vois des mecs qui parle d'humanitaire, de partage et qui vont TOUT faire pour economiser 50 centimes d'euro...ou negocier pendant 3 plombes l'hotel le plus pourrie... Alors qu'ils vont depenser des dizaines d'euros en conneries une fois de retour en France et sans broncher...
Je dis pas que touriste = vache à lait mais je constate quand même une tendance à vouloir grappier le moindre centime dans les pays traverser.
Alors enfin je trouve quelqu'un qui partage la meme vision !
Depuis le temps que je lis ce forum c'est vrai que ça me fait rire quand je vois des mecs qui parle d'humanitaire, de partage et qui vont TOUT faire pour economiser 50 centimes d'euro...ou negocier pendant 3 plombes l'hotel le plus pourrie... Alors qu'ils vont depenser des dizaines d'euros en conneries une fois de retour en France et sans broncher...
Je dis pas que touriste = vache à lait mais je constate quand même une tendance à vouloir grappier le moindre centime dans les pays traverser.
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I’m planning a potential trip to Namibia for a classic circuit in April 2027.
I’m surprised by how expensive the accommodations inside the parks are—really steep! Is it possible to stay outside the parks but still close enough to enjoy the game drives?
Do you have any recommendations for more reasonably priced lodging? I’m okay with spending 200 to 250 € per night.
No camping—the friend I’m traveling with absolutely refuses 😉, but maybe upgraded tents would work.
Thanks in advance, and have a great evening! !
Hello,
We’re planning a route from Maun to Kazane and Victoria Falls for May 2027 in a Toyota Hilux 4x4, staying in lodges (no camping). Here’s the rough outline:
- Maun: Arrival likely from Johannesburg, 2 nights
- Khwai: 2 nights
- Return to Maun
- Need to decide on a stop between Maun and Sepopa?
- Sepopa: 2 nights
- Cross into Namibia: Bagani, 2 nights
- Kongola: 2 nights
- Katima Mulilo: 2 nights
- Kasane: 3 or 4 nights
- Victoria Falls: 1 or 2 nights
- Return to France from Kasane or Victoria Falls
What’s the road condition like between Maun and Khwai? The stop names are approximate based on accommodations. Thanks for any feedback on this plan! Ailleurs 64
What’s the road condition like between Maun and Khwai? The stop names are approximate based on accommodations. Thanks for any feedback on this plan! Ailleurs 64
Hi,
At the end of July, we’re heading to Namibia with a group of five for a three-week road trip and visit to the national parks. We’ve read conflicting info about buying entry tickets—either online (where?) or at the gate when we arrive?
Thanks in advance for your tips!!
Have a great day
At the end of July, we’re heading to Namibia with a group of five for a three-week road trip and visit to the national parks. We’ve read conflicting info about buying entry tickets—either online (where?) or at the gate when we arrive?
Thanks in advance for your tips!!
Have a great day
Hi there,
I’d love to hear your thoughts on the agencies you used to plan your trip to Uganda.
There’s the whole issue of gorilla permits, which need to be booked in advance and involve a significant financial commitment. That’s where I’m at with my trip planning. Between checking lutb.go.ug/ and reading online reviews, it’s hard to move forward with confidence.
I contacted the French Embassy, but they don’t provide any recommendations. I almost booked with an agency that had a really bad review from February specifically about the permit process.
How did you go about choosing your agency? Given the large sum involved, I’m this close to booking through a travel agency in France for this part.
From what I understand, no matter which agency books the permit, you’re ultimately guided by professionals trained for gorilla trekking based on the permit itself? I’m assuming that’s how it works.
Thanks for your feedback, and I’m really happy to see the forum’s new energy—it’s been super helpful to me in the past.
I’d love to hear your thoughts on the agencies you used to plan your trip to Uganda.
There’s the whole issue of gorilla permits, which need to be booked in advance and involve a significant financial commitment. That’s where I’m at with my trip planning. Between checking lutb.go.ug/ and reading online reviews, it’s hard to move forward with confidence.
I contacted the French Embassy, but they don’t provide any recommendations. I almost booked with an agency that had a really bad review from February specifically about the permit process.
How did you go about choosing your agency? Given the large sum involved, I’m this close to booking through a travel agency in France for this part.
From what I understand, no matter which agency books the permit, you’re ultimately guided by professionals trained for gorilla trekking based on the permit itself? I’m assuming that’s how it works.
Thanks for your feedback, and I’m really happy to see the forum’s new energy—it’s been super helpful to me in the past.
Hi everyone!
We’re heading to Uganda next summer for three weeks with our two kids, who’ll be 7 and 9 years old. We’ve been to Southern Africa before but not East Africa, and after a trip to South Africa two years ago, the kids wanted to return to Africa, while we wanted to explore a new region while staying independent... Uganda’s been catching our eye for a while, and with Rwandair offering relatively attractive prices, we’re going for it!
We’ll be traveling in a 4x4 (self-drive) with roof tents. I don’t have any 4x4 driving experience, so it’ll be a first for me, but we’ll manage 😉 No great apes for us—kids need to be 15, and we don’t want to do that experience without them.
I don’t usually ask the forum much for trip planning, but this time, I’d love your thoughts and advice!
First question: Karamoja or not? At first glance, if we want to add it to a "classic" loop in the southwest, it doesn’t seem realistic—too packed, too much driving. We could consider doing the full loop via Kidepo and then heading down to Murchison, but I’m worried the trip might feel less varied and less kid-friendly. That said, the region looks stunning, and I’m struggling to accept not going at all... What do you think?
If we skip Karamoja, we’d do a loop: Murchison/Fort Portal/QENP/Bunyonyi/Mburo, which seems pretty comprehensive and would let us take our time, which is nice. A few random questions: - How much time should we plan for the Fort Portal area? I was thinking at least 3 days to visit Bigodi Swamp, walk around the craters, and maybe do a community walk (any thoughts on that?). - Between Murchison Falls and the Fort Portal area, is it worth breaking up the drive? I spotted Lake Albert Safari Lodge on the shores of Lake Albert—it’s not too expensive and looks nice. - I’d love to do some easy walks/hikes at the foot of the Rwenzori Mountains, ideally without a guide, but it doesn’t seem straightforward. Do you know if it’s possible to do nice walks independently? I’ve read about hikes in the hills near Kilembe but nothing very specific. Maybe staying somewhere at the foot of the mountains, like Ruboni Community Camp, would allow that. - Lake Mutanda looks really cool, and so does Lake Bunyonyi... Ideally, I’d like to see both, but won’t that feel repetitive? Is Lake Mutanda worth the detour?
Last practical question, since we don’t have experience with this: for the car with kids, would you recommend two tents (a bit more space) or a four-person tent?
I’ll stop here—already a lot of questions...
Thanks in advance for your feedback, and looking forward to exchanging ideas! Gabriel
We’re heading to Uganda next summer for three weeks with our two kids, who’ll be 7 and 9 years old. We’ve been to Southern Africa before but not East Africa, and after a trip to South Africa two years ago, the kids wanted to return to Africa, while we wanted to explore a new region while staying independent... Uganda’s been catching our eye for a while, and with Rwandair offering relatively attractive prices, we’re going for it!
We’ll be traveling in a 4x4 (self-drive) with roof tents. I don’t have any 4x4 driving experience, so it’ll be a first for me, but we’ll manage 😉 No great apes for us—kids need to be 15, and we don’t want to do that experience without them.
I don’t usually ask the forum much for trip planning, but this time, I’d love your thoughts and advice!
First question: Karamoja or not? At first glance, if we want to add it to a "classic" loop in the southwest, it doesn’t seem realistic—too packed, too much driving. We could consider doing the full loop via Kidepo and then heading down to Murchison, but I’m worried the trip might feel less varied and less kid-friendly. That said, the region looks stunning, and I’m struggling to accept not going at all... What do you think?
If we skip Karamoja, we’d do a loop: Murchison/Fort Portal/QENP/Bunyonyi/Mburo, which seems pretty comprehensive and would let us take our time, which is nice. A few random questions: - How much time should we plan for the Fort Portal area? I was thinking at least 3 days to visit Bigodi Swamp, walk around the craters, and maybe do a community walk (any thoughts on that?). - Between Murchison Falls and the Fort Portal area, is it worth breaking up the drive? I spotted Lake Albert Safari Lodge on the shores of Lake Albert—it’s not too expensive and looks nice. - I’d love to do some easy walks/hikes at the foot of the Rwenzori Mountains, ideally without a guide, but it doesn’t seem straightforward. Do you know if it’s possible to do nice walks independently? I’ve read about hikes in the hills near Kilembe but nothing very specific. Maybe staying somewhere at the foot of the mountains, like Ruboni Community Camp, would allow that. - Lake Mutanda looks really cool, and so does Lake Bunyonyi... Ideally, I’d like to see both, but won’t that feel repetitive? Is Lake Mutanda worth the detour?
Last practical question, since we don’t have experience with this: for the car with kids, would you recommend two tents (a bit more space) or a four-person tent?
I’ll stop here—already a lot of questions...
Thanks in advance for your feedback, and looking forward to exchanging ideas! Gabriel
Hi everyone!
I’m looking for a French-speaking local guide for July 2019. Would anyone have a contact there? No tour operators, please.
Thanks in advance!
I’m looking for a French-speaking local guide for July 2019. Would anyone have a contact there? No tour operators, please.
Thanks in advance!
Hello,
We’re planning our second trip to South Africa in July 2026. In 2023, we did a loop from Joburg, Golden Gate, Drakensberg, Hluhluwe, St Lucia, Eswatini, Kruger, Blyde River Canyon, and back to Joburg. This time, we’d like to go to Cape Town and do a road trip to Port Elizabeth, then fly back to Joburg to return to Kruger. At this stage of my planning, here’s what it could look like:
D1 to D4: Cape Town and Cape of Good Hope (Table Mountain, Lion’s Head, Waterfront, Bo-Kaap, Boulders, Cape Point, Chapman’s Peak Drive). I’ve spotted a few places to stay between Camps Bay and Hout Bay (3 nights). D5 and D6: Either Karoo NP or Hermanus and De Hoop. Any opinions to tip the scales? I’ll admit I’m already leaning toward Karoo (the "wild" vibe of the landscapes and wildlife encounters appeal to me much more than the seaside, which feels less exotic). If we go for Karoo, where should we stay? Inside the park or in Beaufort West? I’ve seen good reviews for Ko-ka Tsara Bush Camp, but maybe it’s better to stay in the Sanparks cottages to make the most of the park? (2 nights) Option B is to do Stellenbosch (though vineyards aren’t great in winter) and/or the Whale Route—Betty’s Bay, Hermanus, De Hoop (2 nights near Gansbaai). D7 and D8: Klein Karoo, Oudtshoorn. Staying at De Cango Guest Farm (2 nights). D9 and D10: Knysna, Robberg Nature Reserve, Tsitsikamma (2 nights in Plettenberg Bay and 1 night in PE). D11: Flight from Port Elizabeth to Joburg at 7 AM and drive to Marloth Park.
For Kruger, I’ve booked 2 nights in Marloth Park, 1 night in Skukuza, 2 nights in Satara, and 1 night in Talamati, which we loved. I’ll book the last night in Graskop later since we want to revisit the Blyde Canyon area.
I’d love all the feedback you can give on my itinerary, especially for days 5 and 6. If you have recommendations for accommodations for 4 people, I’d appreciate those too. Thanks! 🙂
We’re planning our second trip to South Africa in July 2026. In 2023, we did a loop from Joburg, Golden Gate, Drakensberg, Hluhluwe, St Lucia, Eswatini, Kruger, Blyde River Canyon, and back to Joburg. This time, we’d like to go to Cape Town and do a road trip to Port Elizabeth, then fly back to Joburg to return to Kruger. At this stage of my planning, here’s what it could look like:
D1 to D4: Cape Town and Cape of Good Hope (Table Mountain, Lion’s Head, Waterfront, Bo-Kaap, Boulders, Cape Point, Chapman’s Peak Drive). I’ve spotted a few places to stay between Camps Bay and Hout Bay (3 nights). D5 and D6: Either Karoo NP or Hermanus and De Hoop. Any opinions to tip the scales? I’ll admit I’m already leaning toward Karoo (the "wild" vibe of the landscapes and wildlife encounters appeal to me much more than the seaside, which feels less exotic). If we go for Karoo, where should we stay? Inside the park or in Beaufort West? I’ve seen good reviews for Ko-ka Tsara Bush Camp, but maybe it’s better to stay in the Sanparks cottages to make the most of the park? (2 nights) Option B is to do Stellenbosch (though vineyards aren’t great in winter) and/or the Whale Route—Betty’s Bay, Hermanus, De Hoop (2 nights near Gansbaai). D7 and D8: Klein Karoo, Oudtshoorn. Staying at De Cango Guest Farm (2 nights). D9 and D10: Knysna, Robberg Nature Reserve, Tsitsikamma (2 nights in Plettenberg Bay and 1 night in PE). D11: Flight from Port Elizabeth to Joburg at 7 AM and drive to Marloth Park.
For Kruger, I’ve booked 2 nights in Marloth Park, 1 night in Skukuza, 2 nights in Satara, and 1 night in Talamati, which we loved. I’ll book the last night in Graskop later since we want to revisit the Blyde Canyon area.
I’d love all the feedback you can give on my itinerary, especially for days 5 and 6. If you have recommendations for accommodations for 4 people, I’d appreciate those too. Thanks! 🙂
Hi
Any feedback on the agency Mon Guide Zanzibar?
Hi everyone,
We’re a family of four (two daughters aged 18 and 21) and we’re planning a three-week trip to Tanzania. Zanzibar would be our main base, but we’d also like to do a safari on the mainland. Could you share any tips on: - the ideal length for such a safari, the best place to go during this period (and easily accessible by flight from Zanzibar) - your recommendations for the most suitable type of stay for a family like ours - reliable local agencies with reasonable prices that could help us with this plan
Thanks in advance!
Albin
We’re a family of four (two daughters aged 18 and 21) and we’re planning a three-week trip to Tanzania. Zanzibar would be our main base, but we’d also like to do a safari on the mainland. Could you share any tips on: - the ideal length for such a safari, the best place to go during this period (and easily accessible by flight from Zanzibar) - your recommendations for the most suitable type of stay for a family like ours - reliable local agencies with reasonable prices that could help us with this plan
Thanks in advance!
Albin
Hi everyone, I’m here to get some advice on visiting KRUGER Park.
From what I’ve gathered through my reading, I understand there are two ways to visit the park:
- Independently with your own vehicle
=> Do you drive all day?
- By booking with a professional
=> Safari early in the morning and late in the afternoon. But what do you do in between?
When it comes to accommodations, the options are: - Booking in one of the park’s camps, where the lodging is basic but functional - Booking in a private reserve, which is more comfortable but prohibitively expensive - Booking outside the park, which means entering the park every morning. But if you want to stay for 3 days, that doesn’t seem practical to me. Do you have any advice for accommodations?
To be honest, I’m really struggling to understand how it all works... Thanks to everyone for your help. Bidule 27
When it comes to accommodations, the options are: - Booking in one of the park’s camps, where the lodging is basic but functional - Booking in a private reserve, which is more comfortable but prohibitively expensive - Booking outside the park, which means entering the park every morning. But if you want to stay for 3 days, that doesn’t seem practical to me. Do you have any advice for accommodations?
To be honest, I’m really struggling to understand how it all works... Thanks to everyone for your help. Bidule 27
Hey everyone!
Heading to Namibia in a few days and I just read that the entry fees for all parks in Namibia have skyrocketed. Increases between 86 and 100%, and this has been in effect since April 1st (no joke). Have any of you heard about this, and if so, do you know if it’s actually being enforced?
For example, the fee for Etosha has gone from 150 NAD to 280 NAD per day per person.
Thanks in advance!
Namibia raises park fees by 86 to 100 percent
Namibia raises park fees by 86 to 100 percent
Hello,
I’m really interested in traveling to South Africa in September 2020. My question is whether I should go on an organized tour or plan my own itinerary. Organized trips are pretty expensive $$$$, but the security aspect reassures me. I’d love to hear your thoughts on safety in South Africa and whether it’s easy to arrange activities like visiting vineyards, Cape Town, and going on a safari on our own. Which is better in terms of cost—booking an organized trip or doing it ourselves? It’s definitely less exciting to follow a group for 10 days. We’re a couple in our 50s who love nature. 😊🦁
I’m really interested in traveling to South Africa in September 2020. My question is whether I should go on an organized tour or plan my own itinerary. Organized trips are pretty expensive $$$$, but the security aspect reassures me. I’d love to hear your thoughts on safety in South Africa and whether it’s easy to arrange activities like visiting vineyards, Cape Town, and going on a safari on our own. Which is better in terms of cost—booking an organized trip or doing it ourselves? It’s definitely less exciting to follow a group for 10 days. We’re a couple in our 50s who love nature. 😊🦁
Hi everyone,
We’re heading out in April 2027 with our 4x4 to explore part of Southern Africa. Right now we’re researching all these beautiful countries and deciding where to ship our vehicle. We’re from Le Havre—has anyone here already shipped from that port to South Africa or East Africa? As for all these countries, is wild camping allowed, tolerated, easy, or difficult? We’ve already visited a few, but you can read just about anything online, so getting tips from real independent travelers is way better :) We’re all ears for any hacks, experiences, or spots you’d recommend. See you on the road with Doddy
We’re heading out in April 2027 with our 4x4 to explore part of Southern Africa. Right now we’re researching all these beautiful countries and deciding where to ship our vehicle. We’re from Le Havre—has anyone here already shipped from that port to South Africa or East Africa? As for all these countries, is wild camping allowed, tolerated, easy, or difficult? We’ve already visited a few, but you can read just about anything online, so getting tips from real independent travelers is way better :) We’re all ears for any hacks, experiences, or spots you’d recommend. See you on the road with Doddy
Hi,
I’m starting to plan a great trip for the last three weeks of January 2027 (my first time in South Africa).
After spending a few hours (!) browsing this forum, here’s a rough first draft of my itinerary:
D0 Arrival at JNB D1, D2 Blyde River Canyon D3, D4, D5, D6, D7: Kruger D8, D9, D10: St Lucia and surrounding area D11, D12, D13, D14: Drakensberg + Lesotho
D15 A very long driving day to the south (hope the AC doesn’t break down!)
D16, D17, D18, D19 southwest coast (so far I’ve noted Oudtshoorn, Robberg Nature Reserve, Wilderness NP, De Hoop Reserve, and a bit of the wine route) D20, D21 Cape Town (peninsula and a bit of the city) + domestic flight and return flight (departure from JNB at 11 PM)
A few questions before refining this: - Do you see any major issues with this itinerary?
- We don’t have a choice on dates, and personally, I prefer green landscapes to desert ones anyway, but do you really see far fewer animals in January than in the dry season? Five days in Kruger should give us enough time to spot plenty of different animals despite the tall grass, right? As for the heat, we’re from Réunion, so we’re relatively used to it, even though I know it’s not the same type of heat.
- Can I trust the distances and driving times given by Google Maps?
- Picking up the vehicle in Johannesburg and dropping it off in Cape Town: how much might that cost us? I’m thinking it probably won’t be worse (in terms of time or money, since there are five of us—2 adults + 3 kids) than going back to Joburg after Lesotho, taking a flight to Cape Town, and renting another vehicle... but maybe I’m wrong.
- Finally, wouldn’t it be better to focus on just one of the two regions (either the northeast or Cape Town and the south coast)? If it were up to me, I’d stick to the first part and extend a few stops... but not everyone agrees! And we’re thinking that since it’ll be really hot, a second part of the trip that’s a bit """cooler""" would be welcome.
Thanks for your help
D0 Arrival at JNB D1, D2 Blyde River Canyon D3, D4, D5, D6, D7: Kruger D8, D9, D10: St Lucia and surrounding area D11, D12, D13, D14: Drakensberg + Lesotho
D15 A very long driving day to the south (hope the AC doesn’t break down!)
D16, D17, D18, D19 southwest coast (so far I’ve noted Oudtshoorn, Robberg Nature Reserve, Wilderness NP, De Hoop Reserve, and a bit of the wine route) D20, D21 Cape Town (peninsula and a bit of the city) + domestic flight and return flight (departure from JNB at 11 PM)
A few questions before refining this: - Do you see any major issues with this itinerary?
- We don’t have a choice on dates, and personally, I prefer green landscapes to desert ones anyway, but do you really see far fewer animals in January than in the dry season? Five days in Kruger should give us enough time to spot plenty of different animals despite the tall grass, right? As for the heat, we’re from Réunion, so we’re relatively used to it, even though I know it’s not the same type of heat.
- Can I trust the distances and driving times given by Google Maps?
- Picking up the vehicle in Johannesburg and dropping it off in Cape Town: how much might that cost us? I’m thinking it probably won’t be worse (in terms of time or money, since there are five of us—2 adults + 3 kids) than going back to Joburg after Lesotho, taking a flight to Cape Town, and renting another vehicle... but maybe I’m wrong.
- Finally, wouldn’t it be better to focus on just one of the two regions (either the northeast or Cape Town and the south coast)? If it were up to me, I’d stick to the first part and extend a few stops... but not everyone agrees! And we’re thinking that since it’ll be really hot, a second part of the trip that’s a bit """cooler""" would be welcome.
Thanks for your help
Hello everyone,
I imagine many of you have been captivated by the Masai Mara park and/or your safari experience with Tony Crocetta/Melting Pot Safari. Still, I’d like to share my perspective. First, I’m an avid traveler, especially in love with Africa, which my partner and I have explored a bit (Zambia, South Africa, Botswana, Kenya, Zimbabwe, Namibia...). That said, I want to express my deep disappointment with both the Masai Mara and Tony Crocetta’s camp, Melting Pot Safari, where we stayed last year.
First, about the park: it’s stunning, no doubt. But what a highly touristy place! I can’t find the words to describe the horror of being among 30 4x4 vehicles lined up in front of a lioness hunt, let alone encircling her right after her kill while her prey is still alive in her jaws... no respect for wildlife. The same goes for surrounding a young leopard playing with its small prey, a moment when I counted over 50 vehicles, most with their engines running... sickening. I turned away, both my gaze and my camera. What a disaster to see this natural wonder of Africa turned into a tourist hotspot.
Yes, I loved this place on Earth, but no, I won’t "promote" it anywhere or to anyone.
Next, I also wanted to share my dissatisfaction with Tony Crocetta’s famous camp, Melting Pot Safari: where to begin? We booked a private vehicle for four with two friends, and I have no complaints about the vehicle itself (though it obviously came at a cost). The windows and the vehicle weren’t very photo-friendly, but let’s move on. The trip between the sisters’ guesthouse (which was fine) and the camp went smoothly, except we arrived a bit too late. Result: "We’ll leave for the safari an hour later today because the driver has to respect his rest hours." Perfect—with park formalities, we only spent about an hour in the park that evening. The safari got off to a great start... During our 12-day stay, we saw some amazing things. Tony wasn’t at the camp—I don’t know what the atmosphere is like when he’s there, but it was rather cold during our trip. Sylvie, his wife, barely looked at us, never asking how our day, night, or game drive went (I think she spoke to us once during the stay, plus the day we arrived, of course). We felt invisible... (if I were mean, I’d say the money had already been deposited into Melting Pot’s bank account.) The evening meals, if I may say so, were a joke: not enough dessert (aside from fruit, but the few elaborate desserts—like 10 for 18 guests) for everyone, barely enough meat or sides. If you were unlucky like us and ended up with a group of 15 people who decided to skip the starter, you’d better hurry to get your main course, or there might not be any left—and no refills... We always ate our fill, but sometimes we had to serve ourselves in advance. Finally, I want to correct something about the quality of the meals: seriously, this buffet was really mediocre and far from the culinary standards I’d read about in my pre-trip research (see their Facebook page). Anyway, let’s move past the food—after all, the avocados were sublime, and we’re not there primarily to eat.
About the tent: the river views were beautiful, and the beds were very comfortable. No running water, individual showers outside the tent, and dry toilets—but it’s Africa, so we weren’t shocked. However, I’m disappointed that for this "modest" price, I wasn’t warned there’d be no soap (and no, I don’t travel with my own soap—and for the price, a little bar in the tent wouldn’t be a luxury). But let’s move on—the hippo views were fantastic. Oh, and to preserve the Masai Mara’s water (which makes sense) and for hygiene reasons, underwear isn’t washed by the camp staff—fair enough. But then what’s that little sign next to the bed? Oh right, for a hefty sum, underwear suddenly becomes "washable"...
Finally, my biggest gripe is about the essential part: the game drives. In France, they sell you a dream with a "photo safari" (what’s the difference, really? A room with a few more electrical outlets?). They promise guides especially suited for photography (not a given, sorry) and vehicles that can get close to animals and go off-road... but here’s the catch: the guides are bound by park laws and hounded by rangers looking to fine rule-breakers. Result: as soon as a white ranger vehicle is spotted, we have to abandon our spot for a wild chase through the grass. Fun once... The next day, we learned that another group’s guide got caught and had to pay $100 for breaking the rules—a sum he casually asked the travelers in his vehicle to cover... because of course, Melting Pot lures tourists with dreams, the poor rangers try to get close, all while breaking park laws... and they break those laws for Crocetta’s company, which, of course, won’t dip into its profits to pay the fines. Basically, it’s "keep the clients happy, but don’t get fined—or the fines are on you or you’ll have to ask the clients directly." Nice boss! Anyway, there were long discussions about this last year, especially among the guests in the fined vehicle. My partner and I found these practices unacceptable, and we were deeply disappointed by this attitude.
I know many people adore this park and/or this company—maybe you were luckier... or maybe you’re less demanding than we are when it comes to respecting rules, nature, and clients. But after traveling through much of southern Africa, I can tell you we personally came back frustrated from this experience and aren’t eager to return... You’ve been warned.
I imagine many of you have been captivated by the Masai Mara park and/or your safari experience with Tony Crocetta/Melting Pot Safari. Still, I’d like to share my perspective. First, I’m an avid traveler, especially in love with Africa, which my partner and I have explored a bit (Zambia, South Africa, Botswana, Kenya, Zimbabwe, Namibia...). That said, I want to express my deep disappointment with both the Masai Mara and Tony Crocetta’s camp, Melting Pot Safari, where we stayed last year.
First, about the park: it’s stunning, no doubt. But what a highly touristy place! I can’t find the words to describe the horror of being among 30 4x4 vehicles lined up in front of a lioness hunt, let alone encircling her right after her kill while her prey is still alive in her jaws... no respect for wildlife. The same goes for surrounding a young leopard playing with its small prey, a moment when I counted over 50 vehicles, most with their engines running... sickening. I turned away, both my gaze and my camera. What a disaster to see this natural wonder of Africa turned into a tourist hotspot.
Yes, I loved this place on Earth, but no, I won’t "promote" it anywhere or to anyone.
Next, I also wanted to share my dissatisfaction with Tony Crocetta’s famous camp, Melting Pot Safari: where to begin? We booked a private vehicle for four with two friends, and I have no complaints about the vehicle itself (though it obviously came at a cost). The windows and the vehicle weren’t very photo-friendly, but let’s move on. The trip between the sisters’ guesthouse (which was fine) and the camp went smoothly, except we arrived a bit too late. Result: "We’ll leave for the safari an hour later today because the driver has to respect his rest hours." Perfect—with park formalities, we only spent about an hour in the park that evening. The safari got off to a great start... During our 12-day stay, we saw some amazing things. Tony wasn’t at the camp—I don’t know what the atmosphere is like when he’s there, but it was rather cold during our trip. Sylvie, his wife, barely looked at us, never asking how our day, night, or game drive went (I think she spoke to us once during the stay, plus the day we arrived, of course). We felt invisible... (if I were mean, I’d say the money had already been deposited into Melting Pot’s bank account.) The evening meals, if I may say so, were a joke: not enough dessert (aside from fruit, but the few elaborate desserts—like 10 for 18 guests) for everyone, barely enough meat or sides. If you were unlucky like us and ended up with a group of 15 people who decided to skip the starter, you’d better hurry to get your main course, or there might not be any left—and no refills... We always ate our fill, but sometimes we had to serve ourselves in advance. Finally, I want to correct something about the quality of the meals: seriously, this buffet was really mediocre and far from the culinary standards I’d read about in my pre-trip research (see their Facebook page). Anyway, let’s move past the food—after all, the avocados were sublime, and we’re not there primarily to eat.
About the tent: the river views were beautiful, and the beds were very comfortable. No running water, individual showers outside the tent, and dry toilets—but it’s Africa, so we weren’t shocked. However, I’m disappointed that for this "modest" price, I wasn’t warned there’d be no soap (and no, I don’t travel with my own soap—and for the price, a little bar in the tent wouldn’t be a luxury). But let’s move on—the hippo views were fantastic. Oh, and to preserve the Masai Mara’s water (which makes sense) and for hygiene reasons, underwear isn’t washed by the camp staff—fair enough. But then what’s that little sign next to the bed? Oh right, for a hefty sum, underwear suddenly becomes "washable"...
Finally, my biggest gripe is about the essential part: the game drives. In France, they sell you a dream with a "photo safari" (what’s the difference, really? A room with a few more electrical outlets?). They promise guides especially suited for photography (not a given, sorry) and vehicles that can get close to animals and go off-road... but here’s the catch: the guides are bound by park laws and hounded by rangers looking to fine rule-breakers. Result: as soon as a white ranger vehicle is spotted, we have to abandon our spot for a wild chase through the grass. Fun once... The next day, we learned that another group’s guide got caught and had to pay $100 for breaking the rules—a sum he casually asked the travelers in his vehicle to cover... because of course, Melting Pot lures tourists with dreams, the poor rangers try to get close, all while breaking park laws... and they break those laws for Crocetta’s company, which, of course, won’t dip into its profits to pay the fines. Basically, it’s "keep the clients happy, but don’t get fined—or the fines are on you or you’ll have to ask the clients directly." Nice boss! Anyway, there were long discussions about this last year, especially among the guests in the fined vehicle. My partner and I found these practices unacceptable, and we were deeply disappointed by this attitude.
I know many people adore this park and/or this company—maybe you were luckier... or maybe you’re less demanding than we are when it comes to respecting rules, nature, and clients. But after traveling through much of southern Africa, I can tell you we personally came back frustrated from this experience and aren’t eager to return... You’ve been warned.
Hi there,
Here’s my feedback after a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, months of prep exchanges (over eight months!), and phone calls right up to departure day, the guide didn’t honor the commitments we’d agreed on.
Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com—who we’d organized everything with—didn’t meet us as promised when we arrived in Addis Ababa. Without any warning, he sent a different guide to accompany us for the entire trip (with a flimsy excuse).
Several parts of the signed quote weren’t respected:
– Services included in the quote but not provided on-site (meals, water), – Hotels we’d chosen, booked, and paid for were swapped for lower-category places, – Visits were canceled because the timing wasn’t calculated properly, – One stop on the itinerary was dropped without any reason or explanation.
We’d paid a deposit for domestic flights, with a promise to refund any overpayment. A month after returning, 150 € per person (there were three of us) still hasn’t been refunded.
I’m sharing this to warn fellow travelers about the importance of solid guarantees to ensure contracts are actually honored. Double-check everything before committing!
Wishing everyone safe and smooth travel prep—Ethiopia is an incredible country!
--- Hello,
Feedback following a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, numerous preparatory exchanges over eight months, and phone calls right up until the day of departure, the guide did not fulfill his commitments. Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com with whom we had organized everything, did not meet us as agreed upon our arrival in Addis Ababa; without warning us, he sent another guide in his place to accompany us throughout the trip (with a bogus excuse).
Several points in the signed quote were not honored: – services included in the quote but not provided on site (meals, water), – hotels chosen, booked, and paid for, replaced by lower-category establishments, – visits canceled due to lack of time, which had not been calculated correctly, – one stop on the itinerary canceled without reason or explanation.
A deposit had been paid for the booking of domestic flights, with a commitment to refund the overpayment. To date, one month after our return, 150 € per person (there were three of us) has still not been refunded.
This testimony is intended to alert travelers to the importance of solid guarantees for contracts that are actually honored, so that everyone can be extra vigilant before committing.
Good luck with your travel preparations, everyone. Ethiopia is an extraordinary country!
Here’s my feedback after a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, months of prep exchanges (over eight months!), and phone calls right up to departure day, the guide didn’t honor the commitments we’d agreed on.
Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com—who we’d organized everything with—didn’t meet us as promised when we arrived in Addis Ababa. Without any warning, he sent a different guide to accompany us for the entire trip (with a flimsy excuse).
Several parts of the signed quote weren’t respected:
– Services included in the quote but not provided on-site (meals, water), – Hotels we’d chosen, booked, and paid for were swapped for lower-category places, – Visits were canceled because the timing wasn’t calculated properly, – One stop on the itinerary was dropped without any reason or explanation.
We’d paid a deposit for domestic flights, with a promise to refund any overpayment. A month after returning, 150 € per person (there were three of us) still hasn’t been refunded.
I’m sharing this to warn fellow travelers about the importance of solid guarantees to ensure contracts are actually honored. Double-check everything before committing!
Wishing everyone safe and smooth travel prep—Ethiopia is an incredible country!
--- Hello,
Feedback following a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, numerous preparatory exchanges over eight months, and phone calls right up until the day of departure, the guide did not fulfill his commitments. Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com with whom we had organized everything, did not meet us as agreed upon our arrival in Addis Ababa; without warning us, he sent another guide in his place to accompany us throughout the trip (with a bogus excuse).
Several points in the signed quote were not honored: – services included in the quote but not provided on site (meals, water), – hotels chosen, booked, and paid for, replaced by lower-category establishments, – visits canceled due to lack of time, which had not been calculated correctly, – one stop on the itinerary canceled without reason or explanation.
A deposit had been paid for the booking of domestic flights, with a commitment to refund the overpayment. To date, one month after our return, 150 € per person (there were three of us) has still not been refunded.
This testimony is intended to alert travelers to the importance of solid guarantees for contracts that are actually honored, so that everyone can be extra vigilant before committing.
Good luck with your travel preparations, everyone. Ethiopia is an extraordinary country!
Hello,
With so many agencies out there, we're feeling a bit lost. Could you please share your experience—like recommending your agency if you were happy with them—and tell us why, and if possible, what budget we should expect? Feel free to send it in a private message :)
We’re just the two of us, and ideally, we’d like to go in a 4x4 alone or with another couple, or in a very small group.
Thanks so much in advance!
We’re just the two of us, and ideally, we’d like to go in a 4x4 alone or with another couple, or in a very small group.
Thanks so much in advance!
Hi there,
I’ve reached out to a few agencies for a week-long family safari next summer before heading to Zanzibar.
So far, the itinerary looks like this: Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha Day 2: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire Day 3: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu Day 4: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro Day 5: Drive to Serengeti and safari in Seronera Day 6: Serengeti and overnight near Lobo Day 7: Serengeti and overnight in Seronera Day 8: Flight from Seronera to Zanzibar
On paper, it covers "everything," but maybe there’s a bit too much time lost on the road... Any alternatives?
To simplify (and cut costs), I was thinking: Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha Day 2: Arusha National Park with a walking safari and meeting the Maasai (?) Day 3: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire Day 4: Full day in Tarangire Day 5: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu Day 6: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro Day 7: Morning in Manyara or Natron and drive to JRO Day 8: Flight to Zanzibar
Your thoughts and recommendations are welcome... Thanks
So far, the itinerary looks like this: Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha Day 2: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire Day 3: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu Day 4: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro Day 5: Drive to Serengeti and safari in Seronera Day 6: Serengeti and overnight near Lobo Day 7: Serengeti and overnight in Seronera Day 8: Flight from Seronera to Zanzibar
On paper, it covers "everything," but maybe there’s a bit too much time lost on the road... Any alternatives?
To simplify (and cut costs), I was thinking: Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha Day 2: Arusha National Park with a walking safari and meeting the Maasai (?) Day 3: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire Day 4: Full day in Tarangire Day 5: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu Day 6: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro Day 7: Morning in Manyara or Natron and drive to JRO Day 8: Flight to Zanzibar
Your thoughts and recommendations are welcome... Thanks
Hi everyone,
We have the opportunity to spend about ten days somewhere for Christmas, and I’m really tempted by Zanzibar. I’ve been dreaming for a long time about the Spice Island, Stone Town, diving...
Which hotels could you recommend? Not a big "resort"—we’re more into "boutique hotels" or even an Airbnb house. Somewhere quiet (we’re not party animals).
I’m thinking of staying the first few nights in Stone Town and then moving to a beach, preferably one where we can swim regardless of the tides, without ending up in seaweed and mud at low tide.
I’m a bit lost with all the beaches because apparently, the north is very crowded, the south is very windy, and the east has some good and some not-so-good spots, with big tides or not... HELP! 🤪
I’d like to limit myself to a maximum of 2 different places to stay over the 10 days.
Thanks in advance! 😉
We have the opportunity to spend about ten days somewhere for Christmas, and I’m really tempted by Zanzibar. I’ve been dreaming for a long time about the Spice Island, Stone Town, diving...
Which hotels could you recommend? Not a big "resort"—we’re more into "boutique hotels" or even an Airbnb house. Somewhere quiet (we’re not party animals).
I’m thinking of staying the first few nights in Stone Town and then moving to a beach, preferably one where we can swim regardless of the tides, without ending up in seaweed and mud at low tide.
I’m a bit lost with all the beaches because apparently, the north is very crowded, the south is very windy, and the east has some good and some not-so-good spots, with big tides or not... HELP! 🤪
I’d like to limit myself to a maximum of 2 different places to stay over the 10 days.
Thanks in advance! 😉
hi there
I’m reaching out because I don’t understand how Volcanoes National Park works. I looked at booking for the gorillas, but there’s just the price listed, and the same goes for the Diane Fossey tomb.
So I contacted a hotel in Kinigi, and they told me that for the gorillas, you need a car to get to the park headquarters, and then once you know your group, you need to get from the headquarters to the trekking start point?? Do you confirm this? Is that really how it works? They say the hotel has a driver and it would cost 100 DOLLARS!! I just found out that on top of the permit, there are other fees??? Uhh… Are there other options, knowing I don’t want to rent a 4x4 since I’m traveling alone?
And if I don’t get the gorilla permit but just want to visit the Diane Fossey tomb, is it the same issue? From Kinigi, do you need a 4x4? How far is the tomb from the headquarters? Is it a hike you can do alone OR DO YOU NEED A GUIDE, ON FOOT? By car?? If someone could explain everything to me… and is the DF Foundation different??
If I decide to go through an agency, is it possible in Musanze (which would save me trips) or is it mandatory to go through Kigali? Thanks so much for your help… Best regards
I’m reaching out because I don’t understand how Volcanoes National Park works. I looked at booking for the gorillas, but there’s just the price listed, and the same goes for the Diane Fossey tomb.
So I contacted a hotel in Kinigi, and they told me that for the gorillas, you need a car to get to the park headquarters, and then once you know your group, you need to get from the headquarters to the trekking start point?? Do you confirm this? Is that really how it works? They say the hotel has a driver and it would cost 100 DOLLARS!! I just found out that on top of the permit, there are other fees??? Uhh… Are there other options, knowing I don’t want to rent a 4x4 since I’m traveling alone?
And if I don’t get the gorilla permit but just want to visit the Diane Fossey tomb, is it the same issue? From Kinigi, do you need a 4x4? How far is the tomb from the headquarters? Is it a hike you can do alone OR DO YOU NEED A GUIDE, ON FOOT? By car?? If someone could explain everything to me… and is the DF Foundation different??
If I decide to go through an agency, is it possible in Musanze (which would save me trips) or is it mandatory to go through Kigali? Thanks so much for your help… Best regards
Hey everyone,
I’m in the middle of planning a road trip in Southern Africa, and I’m specifically working on the itinerary—especially the distances.
I’ve got the time, but I’m struggling with the transfer days (so much driving just to end up spending the whole day on the road). That’s why I’m trying to analyze travel times, even if it means adding extra stops.
My highlights in Zimbabwe would be: - Hwange - Victoria Falls (and maybe Matusadona) - Mana Pools - Harare - Gonarezhou - Great Zimbabwe
But the distances and travel times seem huge (over 4 hours each time), and I don’t see how to make the drives more chill or shorten them—even if it means adding stops (but which ones?) between each leg.
Would anyone be able to estimate the travel time between these highlights and maybe suggest some nice stops to take breaks?
I’m in the middle of planning a road trip in Southern Africa, and I’m specifically working on the itinerary—especially the distances.
I’ve got the time, but I’m struggling with the transfer days (so much driving just to end up spending the whole day on the road). That’s why I’m trying to analyze travel times, even if it means adding extra stops.
My highlights in Zimbabwe would be: - Hwange - Victoria Falls (and maybe Matusadona) - Mana Pools - Harare - Gonarezhou - Great Zimbabwe
But the distances and travel times seem huge (over 4 hours each time), and I don’t see how to make the drives more chill or shorten them—even if it means adding stops (but which ones?) between each leg.
Would anyone be able to estimate the travel time between these highlights and maybe suggest some nice stops to take breaks?
hi there
I’ve been to Rwanda twice before, in November 1991 and December 1993, mostly for solidarity work. I’m looking into going back this November or December for three weeks, but I’m a bit hesitant when I see the tourist offerings—it’s so far from how I like to travel...
I travel solo using public transport and stay in places like guesthouses (GH), or accommodations run by cooperatives, associations, or religious groups. I love villages, markets, hikes, and local crafts. So far, my searches for these kinds of lodging options haven’t turned up much.
For now, I’m considering visiting (in no particular order):
Butare: Kibeho, Bisesero, Nyanza Ngenda Akagera, Kibungo, Lake Muazi Dian Fossey’s tomb (with the possibility of seeing gorillas) Kibuye??? Is the political situation stable there? Or Cyangugu?
So here are my first questions: -Is French still widely spoken? -Are there lists of the types of accommodations I mentioned above, or places to find that info? -Is what I’m planning doable using public transport? From the towns, are moto-taxis still available to get to villages, sites, and—most importantly—back? -Is it possible to go hiking solo? -Which are the best markets and what days are they held?
I know that’s a lot of questions already, and I really appreciate any relevant answers you can share. Looking forward to exchanging more!
I’ve been to Rwanda twice before, in November 1991 and December 1993, mostly for solidarity work. I’m looking into going back this November or December for three weeks, but I’m a bit hesitant when I see the tourist offerings—it’s so far from how I like to travel...
I travel solo using public transport and stay in places like guesthouses (GH), or accommodations run by cooperatives, associations, or religious groups. I love villages, markets, hikes, and local crafts. So far, my searches for these kinds of lodging options haven’t turned up much.
For now, I’m considering visiting (in no particular order):
Butare: Kibeho, Bisesero, Nyanza Ngenda Akagera, Kibungo, Lake Muazi Dian Fossey’s tomb (with the possibility of seeing gorillas) Kibuye??? Is the political situation stable there? Or Cyangugu?
So here are my first questions: -Is French still widely spoken? -Are there lists of the types of accommodations I mentioned above, or places to find that info? -Is what I’m planning doable using public transport? From the towns, are moto-taxis still available to get to villages, sites, and—most importantly—back? -Is it possible to go hiking solo? -Which are the best markets and what days are they held?
I know that’s a lot of questions already, and I really appreciate any relevant answers you can share. Looking forward to exchanging more!
Hi everyone,
I’m planning my next trip in September, and after two self-drive trips to Botswana last year, I’d love to explore Kruger. Since I’m used to camping, I’m thinking of renting an equipped van from Kitted Africa (a small Suzuki van—thanks Safari Expert!) to sleep in a tent and occasionally in a hut.
Here’s my provisional itinerary, and I’d love to hear your thoughts if you don’t mind. I’ve got 13 nights to plan in Kruger. The rental company is based in Nelspruit.
Entering from the south: 14-15-16.09: 3 nights at Crocodile Bridge or Lower Sabie 17-18-19.09: 3 nights at Skukuza 20-21.09: 2 nights at Satara 22-23-24.09: 3 nights at Olifants 25-26.09: 2 nights at Tamboti or Talamati
Exiting the park on 27.09 via Orpen Gate, then heading to Blyde River Canyon for a night in a hotel or elsewhere. 28.09: Return to Nelspruit, drop off the van, and stay in a hotel. 29.09 (midday): Airlink flight to Johannesburg, then an evening return flight to GVA.
What do you think? Too many nights here, not enough there?
I’ll be traveling solo, I love driving, and I enjoy settling in the middle of nature to listen, observe, and take photos (Botswana was perfect for that).
Thanks in advance! Nicole Photo: Baines Baobab, Botswana, April 2025
I’m planning my next trip in September, and after two self-drive trips to Botswana last year, I’d love to explore Kruger. Since I’m used to camping, I’m thinking of renting an equipped van from Kitted Africa (a small Suzuki van—thanks Safari Expert!) to sleep in a tent and occasionally in a hut.
Here’s my provisional itinerary, and I’d love to hear your thoughts if you don’t mind. I’ve got 13 nights to plan in Kruger. The rental company is based in Nelspruit.
Entering from the south: 14-15-16.09: 3 nights at Crocodile Bridge or Lower Sabie 17-18-19.09: 3 nights at Skukuza 20-21.09: 2 nights at Satara 22-23-24.09: 3 nights at Olifants 25-26.09: 2 nights at Tamboti or Talamati
Exiting the park on 27.09 via Orpen Gate, then heading to Blyde River Canyon for a night in a hotel or elsewhere. 28.09: Return to Nelspruit, drop off the van, and stay in a hotel. 29.09 (midday): Airlink flight to Johannesburg, then an evening return flight to GVA.
What do you think? Too many nights here, not enough there?
I’ll be traveling solo, I love driving, and I enjoy settling in the middle of nature to listen, observe, and take photos (Botswana was perfect for that).
Thanks in advance! Nicole Photo: Baines Baobab, Botswana, April 2025
I’d like to return to Africa and stay in a lodge where I can see animals—not necessarily the Big Five—without needing any transport once I arrive at the lodge, and at a price under $250 per day for two people with full board. The week-long stay is planned for late June into early July. I’m looking for suggestions. Thanks in advance!
Hi, I’d like to travel to Ethiopia as a solo 60-year-old woman, backpacking style, between December 2025 and January 2026.
I’m wondering about the current state of the country: unrest, safety concerns, etc.
Government websites advise against going, saying it’s too dangerous.
But I’m skeptical—they tend to be overly cautious.
So I’m looking for reliable information, though I’m not sure where to find it.
Thanks in advance!
Hello,
We’re a group of four seventy-something retirees and we’re planning a 4-week trip to South Africa. We’re seasoned "adventurers" used to multi-week stays (we’ve been to India seven times, Mexico, Thailand, Laos, Myanmar, Australia, etc.).
For South Africa, we’re thinking of covering most of the trip in a private vehicle and taking flights for inter-state transfers. We’re interested in meeting people, learning about the country’s evolution, exploring major cities, visiting traditional villages, and seeing wildlife.
Here’s the itinerary we’re considering: Johannesburg – 2 days (we’ll pass through again later) Pretoria – 2 days Blyde River Canyon and Graskop – 1 day Acornhoek – 1 day Letaba – 2 days Lobamba – 2 days Johannesburg – 1 day
Flight to Cape Town
Cape Town – 3 days Cape of Good Hope – 1 day Stellenbosch – 1 day Hermanus – 1 day Mossel Bay – 2 days Oudtshoorn Wilderness – 2 days Knysna Port Elizabeth – 2 days Addo Elephant Park
Flight back to Johannesburg
Johannesburg – 1 day
Return to Paris
Could you share your thoughts on this itinerary? We’ll be renting a vehicle to explore both regions. We can easily add 4–5 more days to the trip if needed.
We’re looking at traveling either between April and May 2026 or in October/November 2026.
I’ll follow up later to discuss the best safari options and get a rough budget estimate.
Thanks to everyone who takes the time to read this and share their thoughts!
For South Africa, we’re thinking of covering most of the trip in a private vehicle and taking flights for inter-state transfers. We’re interested in meeting people, learning about the country’s evolution, exploring major cities, visiting traditional villages, and seeing wildlife.
Here’s the itinerary we’re considering: Johannesburg – 2 days (we’ll pass through again later) Pretoria – 2 days Blyde River Canyon and Graskop – 1 day Acornhoek – 1 day Letaba – 2 days Lobamba – 2 days Johannesburg – 1 day
Flight to Cape Town
Cape Town – 3 days Cape of Good Hope – 1 day Stellenbosch – 1 day Hermanus – 1 day Mossel Bay – 2 days Oudtshoorn Wilderness – 2 days Knysna Port Elizabeth – 2 days Addo Elephant Park
Flight back to Johannesburg
Johannesburg – 1 day
Return to Paris
Could you share your thoughts on this itinerary? We’ll be renting a vehicle to explore both regions. We can easily add 4–5 more days to the trip if needed.
We’re looking at traveling either between April and May 2026 or in October/November 2026.
I’ll follow up later to discuss the best safari options and get a rough budget estimate.
Thanks to everyone who takes the time to read this and share their thoughts!