Mariage franco-thai en France
by Ericsof
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Bonjour, j'ai parcouru les posts mais pas trouvé de réponse claire alors je tente un nouveau sur l'accomplissement des formalités. Je suis Français résident en France, ma fiancée est Thaï résidente en Thaïlande. Elle est venue plusieurs fois en France mais pour cette nouvelle fois nous entendons nous marier en France à la mairie de mon Domicile. J'ai fini par comprendre qu'elle doit avoir :
un extrait d'acte de naissance,
Ma fiancée à ce document ce document mais rédigé en Thaï, pour le traduire en Français doit t'on d'abord le légaliser (Service des Légalisations du Ministère des Affaires Etrangères Thaï de Bangkok) puis le faire traduire en Français (à l'Alliance Française par exemple) et ensuite le faire viser par l'Ambassade de France à Bangkok. Chacune de ces 3 étapes est elle obligatoire.
un certificat de célibat
même question pour la traduction
un certificat de coutume
Ce document ne peut être t'il être obtenu qu'à l'ambassade de Thaïlande en France ? ou bien peut t'on l'obtenir en Thaïlande ?
Enfin, en cas de difficulté peut t'on partir de Thaïlande avec tout ces documents et les faire traduire en France et si oui selon qu'elle procédure ?.
Merci de vos réponses en me renvoyant le cas échéant à des posts précis en cas de nécessité ou de questions examinés.
Merci beaucoup d'avance
bonjour,
le plus pratique, selon moi, c'est de faire traduire les documents etrangers en france. La liste des traducteurs assermentée est disponible en mairie et a la prefecture.
le plus pratique, selon moi, c'est de faire traduire les documents etrangers en france. La liste des traducteurs assermentée est disponible en mairie et a la prefecture.
Bonjour,
Pour qu'un document étranger soit reconnu en France, il faut impérativement que l'autorité française locale (en l'espèce le consulat français en Thaïlande) certifie qu'il provient bien d'une autorité nationale reconnue dans l'état en question (le ministère des affaires étrangères).
Donc, vous ne couperez pas à la formalité de la légalisation. Ensuite, pour la traduction, il vaut sans doute mieux user les services de l'ambassade ou de l'Alliance dans le pays d'origine.
Pour le certificat de coutume, il sera délivré par l'ambassade de Thaïlande en France.
Pour qu'un document étranger soit reconnu en France, il faut impérativement que l'autorité française locale (en l'espèce le consulat français en Thaïlande) certifie qu'il provient bien d'une autorité nationale reconnue dans l'état en question (le ministère des affaires étrangères).
Donc, vous ne couperez pas à la formalité de la légalisation. Ensuite, pour la traduction, il vaut sans doute mieux user les services de l'ambassade ou de l'Alliance dans le pays d'origine.
Pour le certificat de coutume, il sera délivré par l'ambassade de Thaïlande en France.
Bonjour, ta fiancée doit impérativement venir avec son acte de naissance original, et le certificat de célibat mais ces documents peuvent trés bien etre traduits en France. Tu trouvera la liste des interprètes agréers, ainsi que le certificat de coutume (c'est déjà rédigé en français) à l'ambassade de thailande en France. Si ta fiancée ne parle pas courrament le français la mairie peut demander la présence d'un interprète agréer (ça était le cas pour nous) durant la cérémonie, de meme que chez le notaire si vous faites un contrat de mariage.
Renseigne toi bien auprés de ta mairie pour tous les documents nécessaires et à l'ambassade de thailande en france pour les légalisations et traductions de documents.
Bon courage à tous les deux, car je sais pour etre passé par là, que ce n'est pas facile, mais avec une bonne dose d'obstination on y arrive.
à+
Bonjour et Merci de tes éclaircissements basés sur un vécu semble t'il. c'est un peu cela que je recherche. Nous avons décidé de faire un peu différemment cependant : ma fiancée va faire légaliser les documents (id card + extrait d'acte de naissance +certificat de célibat) au service de la légalisation de Thaïlande à Bangkok, les faire traduire à l'alliance française à Bangkok. Là elle demandera si elle doit ou non les faire valider à l'ambassade de France à Bangkok. Notre inquiétude est que les services de l'ambassade de France croisent les demandes de visa et de validation de documents. Pour le certificat de coutume c'est un peu plus difficile car je n'habite pas la métropole et ma fiancée reste juste dix heures à Paris avant de continuer sur mon département (deux visas : Schengen + DROM).
Donc je serais peut être obligé de faire un aller-retour sur Paris pour 4 jours pour l'obtention de ce document. En effet, malgré mes tentatives je ne sais pas si on peut faire cette démarche par voie postale (Chronopost ou Fedex). Le service de l'ambassade de Thaïlande à Paris est difficile à joindre par téléphone et n'a pas répondu à une demande par fax = pas de réponse sur ce point jusqu'à présent. Il parait au surplus qu'il faut également mon passeport plus une lettre exprimant mon souhait de me marier avec elle ? merci si on peut me préciser ce point.
Actuellement il semble qu'il y ait beaucoup de demande de visa Français à Bangkok, les dates de rdv de TLS s'ont très éloignées de la demande de rdv par internet (+-15 jours).
Pour la présence d'un traducteur Thaï/Francais cela sera difficile car ds mon département pas de traducteur officiel Thaï, la Mairie semble Ok pour un interprète anglais.
Merci en tous les cas de tes encouragements. Après je ferais un post complet relatant étape par étape ce parcours. a+
Je vais vous épargner des contacts inutiles: la Thaïlande n'a pas ratifié la Convention de La Haye sur l'apostille. Cela veut donc dire que vous devrez en tous les cas faire légaliser le document par l'Ambassade de France à Bangkok.
Bonsoir, je pense aussi qu'il doit falloir faire valider la traduction à l'ambassade de France, surtout si elle n'a pas était faite par un interprète assermenté. Attention que l’orthographe du nom et prénom sur toutes les traductions soit exactement la même que sur le passeport et C.I. Pour le certificat de coutume je pense qu'il peuvent très bien te l’envoyer par courrier (à tes frais bien sûr) je n'ai pas souvenir qu'il m'aient demander quoique ce soit à part 30€ en 2006). Essai encore de les joindre par téléphone, toi ou ta fiancée (l’après midi ils sont plus cool ils traitent les affaires des thaïs, le matin ils s'occupent des visas pour les farangs).
😉 à+
Encore un petit truc important, vous en êtes probablement pas encore là, mais si un jour vous avez des enfants ensembles ne surtout pas donner le nom de la mère rattaché au nom du père à l'enfant la loi française le permet mais pas la loi thaïe qui ne reconnaît que le nom du père du coup impossible d'avoir un acte de naissance thaïe et pas de double nationalité à moins de changer de nom. Mais là c'est une autre histoire......😏
Bonjour,
Juste une petite suite concernant les formalités : Pour les documents nous avons suivi ce chemin qui a porté sur les documents suivants : "Certificat de Célibat" obtenu avec 2 témoins au Bureau Administratif du district du domicile de ma fiancée, "Extrait d'acte de naissance" obtenu Bureau Administratif du district du domicile de ma fiancée, "Carte d'Identité", "Certificat de l'état civil extrait du registre central" obtenu Bureau Administratif du district du domicile de ma fiancée. Chemin suivi : 1/ Copies - 2/ Authentification des copies par le Ministère des affaires étrangère de Thaïlande à BKK - 3/Traduction des copies à l'Alliance Française - 4/ Légalisation des copies à l'Ambassade de France de BKK, et un coût total de 3.500 Thb. Pour la prochaine étape ce sera la Mairie, je ferais un post pour cela.😏
Bon alors tous mes vœux de bonheur....
Bonjour
Merci, mais les formalités ne sont hélas pas finies, il faut encore obtenir le certificat de coutume de l'Ambassade de Thaïlande en France. Un membre du forum pourrait t'il me renseigner sur les points suivants :
- Peut on solliciter l'obtention de ce document par la poste ou faut t'il se rendre personnellement à l'ambassade ou encore peut on charger quelqu'un de le faire ;
- Quels sont les documents à fournir ?
- Doit t'il s'agir d'originaux ou de copies ?
Merci d'avance de vos réponses ... 😄
Bonjour
Juste pour dire : c'est fait nous sommes mariés avec un contrat de mariage. Cdlt
Bonjour,
Je m'appelle Thibault et je viens de tomber par hasard sur le mail que tu as lancé il y a .. 3 ans concernant ta situation avec ta fiancée de nationalité thaie. Je vis actuellement la même chose, et j'aurais voulu savoir si on aurait plus parler plsu en détails de la façon dont toi tu as procédée, sachant que je compte faire de même cette année,
En esperant ton retour,
Bonne soirée,
Thibault
Je m'appelle Thibault et je viens de tomber par hasard sur le mail que tu as lancé il y a .. 3 ans concernant ta situation avec ta fiancée de nationalité thaie. Je vis actuellement la même chose, et j'aurais voulu savoir si on aurait plus parler plsu en détails de la façon dont toi tu as procédée, sachant que je compte faire de même cette année,
En esperant ton retour,
Bonne soirée,
Thibault
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There are two ways to look at it:
1) The first day she spent in the Schengen Area was January 21st. That day will drop out of the calculation 180 days later, on July 20th.
From July 20th, she’ll get back 1 day of possible stay; on July 22nd, 2 days; and so on. All the days from her previous stay (January 21st–April 16th) need to be outside the 180-day rolling window. The last day of her stay was April 16th. Looking 180 days ahead, that brings us to October 13th. From that date, she’ll be able to return for a full 90 days. 2) The number of allowed days is calculated for each day of the new stay. In other words: the 180-day window is recalculated every day, not fixed at the entry date. If she re-enters France on July 18th, she’ll only have a “credit” of 4 days. But with each day of her new stay, one day from the previous stay (January–April) will drop out of the calculation. The rolling window allows her to “replace” days from the previous stay with those of the new stay, without ever exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period. In this case, my partner could stay in France for 90 days starting on July 18th. The Prefecture doesn’t provide any information, nor does Air France, and in the forums I’ve checked, opinions are divided. Thanks for any insights you can share!
She plans to return to France on July 18th. According to the European Commission’s Schengen calculator, this new stay “may be authorized for a maximum of 90 days.” That’s not very clear ("may be," "for a maximum of").
The text of Article 6 of the European regulation (2016/399) states that for a stay planned in the territory of the Member States, not exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period, one must examine "the 180-day period preceding each day of the stay." That’s not very clear either.
My partner wants to return to France for a 90-day period starting on July 18th. Is this possible?
There are two ways to look at it:
1) The first day she spent in the Schengen Area was January 21st. That day will drop out of the calculation 180 days later, on July 20th.
From July 20th, she’ll get back 1 day of possible stay; on July 22nd, 2 days; and so on. All the days from her previous stay (January 21st–April 16th) need to be outside the 180-day rolling window. The last day of her stay was April 16th. Looking 180 days ahead, that brings us to October 13th. From that date, she’ll be able to return for a full 90 days. 2) The number of allowed days is calculated for each day of the new stay. In other words: the 180-day window is recalculated every day, not fixed at the entry date. If she re-enters France on July 18th, she’ll only have a “credit” of 4 days. But with each day of her new stay, one day from the previous stay (January–April) will drop out of the calculation. The rolling window allows her to “replace” days from the previous stay with those of the new stay, without ever exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period. In this case, my partner could stay in France for 90 days starting on July 18th. The Prefecture doesn’t provide any information, nor does Air France, and in the forums I’ve checked, opinions are divided. Thanks for any insights you can share!
Hello,
We’re planning to travel to Indonesia (Sulawesi with family) next July and August for a stay longer than a month (about 6 weeks).
I’ve seen that it’s possible to get a 60-day visa before departure, but I’ve also read about people having a lot of trouble getting it (some even didn’t manage and had to leave without it).
We absolutely need to have these 4 visas BEFORE leaving because once we’re in Sulawesi, I’m not sure we’ll be able to go to an embassy to request a visa extension after 30 days.
In short, how can we **100% guarantee** that we’ll get our 4 60-day visas before our trip this summer?
Thanks for your valuable tips!
Elodie
In short, how can we **100% guarantee** that we’ll get our 4 60-day visas before our trip this summer?
Thanks for your valuable tips!
Elodie
Hi there,
I’m leaving for Japan in a few weeks. I just noticed my passport has an ink stain on the signature page. Could this cause any issues?
I’m leaving for Japan in a few weeks. I just noticed my passport has an ink stain on the signature page. Could this cause any issues?
Hello, HAPPY NEW YEAR 2026!
We’re heading back in October for a trip through Botswana, Zambia, and Zimbabwe.
I have a question: for our route, we’ll need to cross the Zambia and Zimbabwe borders twice each. From experience, I know we won’t have any issues with Botswana.
But for the other two countries, I can’t find a clear answer.
All your tips are welcome!
Thanks for your replies
Thanks for your replies
Hi everyone!
I’m currently a student on a gap year, and I don’t plan to go back to school right away. That said, traveling really interests me. But I’ve been wondering: does being a student come with any perks when you decide to go abroad? The real question is whether I should re-enroll in a program just to keep that status without actually attending.
Thanks in advance for your replies,
Axel
I’m currently a student on a gap year, and I don’t plan to go back to school right away. That said, traveling really interests me. But I’ve been wondering: does being a student come with any perks when you decide to go abroad? The real question is whether I should re-enroll in a program just to keep that status without actually attending.
Thanks in advance for your replies,
Axel






