Est-ce que quelqu'un peut m'aider?!
Comment se procurer des billets de train Pékin Lhassa?
Est-ce possible d'Europe? via internet?
evidemment sur place j'imagine, mais combien de temps à l'avance, à quel prix etc?
Et pour ce "fameux" permis pour entrer au Tibet?
Et puis peut-on rester le temps qu'on veut ou la séjour au tibet est-il très limité?
J'ai fait un ptit tour dans les différentes discussions mais je ne trouve pas de réponse à mes questions.
l'idée serait de partir quelque part en octobre à Pékin, puis train vers Lhassa, puis...
J'imagine qu'il faut un peu goupiller cela à l'avance, sinon perte de temps à l'arrivée et programme chamboulé si temps "limité".
Evite les YingZuo Piao, car avec 48H de trajet, le train sera bien rempli.
Il aura des gens qui dorment par terre, sous les lavabos, dans les couloirs, sous les sieges... plein de gens n'ont pas de place assise.
En plus y a la "3ème main" dans le train
Tu peux le réserver directement à la gare de Pékin ou à la gare de l'ouest de Pékin.(10-20jous d'avance)
bonjour,
BAOBEI a plutot bien resumé la situation,
j'ajouterai que a ma connaissance il n'est pas possible de reserver depuis une agence de voyage europenne,
la disponnibilité des place et le delai d'obtention des billet depends surtout de la date de reservation (periode d'afluence de mai a septembre) En octoobre tu ne devrais pas avoir trop de problme a fire les demarche sur place, je vais me renseigner aupres d'un amis pour savoir comment il s'etait procurer le billet depuis pekin.
pour le permis il n'est pas possbilde de l'obtenir a distance, mais certain hotel (voir mon site perso) prepare le permis a l'avance sur envoie des copies du visa et passeport.
il n'y a pas de limitation dans le temps concernant ton sejour au tibet a part la durée de validité de ton visa.en ce qui me concerne je suis resté 6 semaine mais il n'est pas rare de rencontrer des gens qui reste plus longtemps.
j'aimerais savoir où tu en es avec ta reservation pour le train pekin-lhassa?
as tu trouvé une solution?
pour ma part cela fait 1mois que je cherche de partout mais c'est bien compliqué...
en effet sur place, aux gares il y a une attente d'environ 20jours de source sure d'un couple qui y etait il n'y a pas longtps. ce couple m'a fortement conseillé de reserver à l'avance avec une agence via internet. mais là encore c'est un veritable periple!
soit les agences ne me repondent pas, soit elles proposent des prix qui depassent le raisonable! ( 300 dollars pour une place en couchette molle!!!)
la derniere avec qui je suis en ce moment en communication est chinayak. cette agence propose apparement le billet + le permit pour 160dollars. mais ils tardent à me repondre et je commence à flipper car j'ai besoin de ce billet pour le 20septembre environ (je serai à pekin le 15septembre) et si je n'arrive pas à l'obtenir je serai surement obligée de changer mes plans et peut etre de ne pas visiter le tibet à mon plus grand regret...
tout cela pour dire que si tu as des infos je suis toute ouie!!!!
Pareil pour moi, je cherche un peu partout ... en sachant que je pars à Pekin fin Octobre et que normalement je prendrais le train pour Lhassa 3 semaines après, donc à mon avis le délai devrait être suffisant ... Tout ce que j'ai lu partout disait qu'il n'était pas possible de réserver le train Pekin lhassa autrement qu'à Pekin même le reste sentait trop le filoutage !
Après si quelqu'un connait un endroit à Lhassa ( dans la vieille ville) sympa et pas excessif ce serait bien ... et le top serait un guide anglophone ( ou francophone ) pour une dizaine de jours sur place ce serait le bonheur total :-) l'idée étant de sortir un peu de Lhassa pour aller voir d'autre choses mais d'une façon plus contemplative que speed ... et ce, surement jusqu'au camp de base de l'Everest ( donc si il y à des personnes que cela interresse à cette période de partager un moyen de transport !!! )
Donc si tu finis par avoir des renseignements judith cela m'intéresserait. Pour ma part je vais essayer de noter tout ce que je trouve sur mon site de préparation ...
Bonjour,
J'arrive à Pékin d'ici 15 jours, depuis Shanghai par train.
Je veux également aller à Lhassa par train depuis Pékin.
As-tu trouvé un billet ?
Marc
bonjour judit,
j'aimerais savoir où tu en es avec ta reservation pour le train pekin-lhassa?
as tu trouvé une solution?
pour ma part cela fait 1mois que je cherche de partout mais c'est bien compliqué...
en effet sur place, aux gares il y a une attente d'environ 20jours de source sure d'un couple qui y etait il n'y a pas longtps. ce couple m'a fortement conseillé de reserver à l'avance avec une agence via internet. mais là encore c'est un veritable periple!
soit les agences ne me repondent pas, soit elles proposent des prix qui depassent le raisonable! ( 300 dollars pour une place en couchette molle!!!)
la derniere avec qui je suis en ce moment en communication est chinayak. cette agence propose apparement le billet + le permit pour 160dollars. mais ils tardent à me repondre et je commence à flipper car j'ai besoin de ce billet pour le 20septembre environ (je serai à pekin le 15septembre) et si je n'arrive pas à l'obtenir je serai surement obligée de changer mes plans et peut etre de ne pas visiter le tibet à mon plus grand regret...
tout cela pour dire que si tu as des infos je suis toute ouie!!!!
c'est une guest house qui va me les acheter mais sans promesse de pouvoir y arriver.
j'ai fait un virement car j'ai confiance en eux, qui est arrivé sur leur compte aujourd'hui donc je pense qu'ils vont essayer de me l'acheter rapidement... affaire à suivre...
non je n'ai tjs pas mes billets, je suis en train de desesperer...
la guest house est downtown à pekin. bcp de membres me l'ont conseillé, ils ont un site internet, va jeter un coup d'oeil. pour les billets ils ne prennent pas de commissions et ils font les tibet permits à 500rmb.
ma banque me dit que mon virement est passé mais il y a apparement 1 ou 2 jours de decallage donc eux ne l'ont pas encore recu... et puis il n'est pas encore sur qu'ils puissent obtenir les billets... j'en peux plus...
Salut,
Tu as reussi a avoir le billet pour Lhassa ?
Moi je voudrais d'abord faire un stop a Xi'an, et ensuite continuer sur Lhassa.
Je ne sais pas s'il est mieux de prendre le permis a Pekin ou si je peux le faire a Xi'an.
Marc
et oui ayé on a nos billets!
la guest house dont je t'ai donné le nom a reussi à nous obtenir aujourd'hui 2billets pekin-lhassa pour le 20septembre et nous serons à pekin le 15 donc c'est parfait!
je peux donc maintenant vous recommander cette guest house, vraiment ils ont fait leur possible. il y a d'abord 2semaines je leur avais fait un transfert d'argent mais il a etait annulé. ils ont quand meme acheté les billets sans avoir l'argent (que nous allons leur donner en liquide à notre arrvée). ca fait plaisir de voir qu'il y a des gens qui ont confiance et à qui l'on peut faire confiance!
par contre pour le permit je ne peux rien te conseiller, moi je le ferai sur place par l'intermediaire de cette guest house...
Je suis a pekin en ce moment. J'ai prevu de partir pour Xi'an lundi prochain (17 sept).
Je pensais rester un jour a Xi'an, puis repartir pour Lhassa en prenant mon billet et le permis a Lhassa, mais apparement ce n'est pas possible.
Je vais aller voir la guest house (je suis a la far east youth hostel).
salut j espere que je n arrive pas trop tard pour te renseigner. J arrive d un sejour d un mois a pekin et au tibet. Le 29 aout je me suis rendue a la gare de l ouest a pekin pour acheter mon billet de train pekin lhassa sans trop d espoir vu tout ce que j avais lu sur les guides et les forums. Apres 1/2 de queue on m a renvoyee au guichet n° 16 (parle anglais) et en 30 secondes j avais mon billet en poche pour le 4 septembre sans que l on me demande permis ou quoi que ce soit (750 yuans, soit75 € pour une couchette dure tres confortable) arrivee a lhassa jai circule librement dans la ville et ses environs (samye, drepung, lac namtso etc...). Des que tu parles de sortir de la capitale tout le monde te dis que tu dois passer par une agence ce qui est faux. Tout est une question de fric.
a ta disposition pour d autres questions
solange
salut
j ai envoye cette reponse a judith : j arrive d un sejour d un mois a pekin et au tibet. j avais prevu de me rendre a lhassa par le tangula express le 4 septembre. Le 29 aout je me suis rendue au guichet de la gare de l ouest a pekin sans trop d espoir. En 30 secondes j avais mon billet en poche sans que l on me demande quoi que ce soit, ni permis ni rien. Je hurlais de bonheur en brandissant mon billet (750 yuans soit 75 euro pour une couchette dure tres confortable). Sans parler des paysages epoustouflants que tu traverses dans les hauts plateaux. Souvenirs inoubliables. Sur place j ai peregrine 15 jours dans lhassa et ses environs en toute liberte.
a ta dispo pour d autres questions
solange
bonjour,
excusez moi de vous de demander encore cela mais pourriez vous m'expliquer clairement toutes les possibilité que j'ai et les demarches administratives à faire pour se déplacer de xi'an à lhassa par n'importe quel moyen (train, avion, bus.....) Avec tout ce qui se dit je ne sais plus quelles infi est exactes. egalement les tarifs en vigueur.
Pourriez vous egalement m'indiquer si vous connaissez bien les différents endroits à visiter à lhassa.
merci beaucoup d'avance
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