Pour ceux qui ne sont pas, actuellement en voyage, je souhaite faire le tour du toukal avec quelques amis à la fin juillet.
Dans les sujets déjà en ligne, je vois surtout des retours d'expérience hors de la période juillet-aout, hors la météo, la fréquentation, l'accès, ... doivent être défférents.
Voici les quelques questions auxquel il me tarde de trouver des réponses :
- Facilité de trouver de l'eau en bouteille ?
- Ravitaillements fréquent ?
- Possibilité de camping ?
- Coût des gîtes ?
- Coût d'un muletier ?
- Trajet Marrackech - Imlil ?
- Températures rando, température sommet, température nuit (belle étoile possible durant toute la rando ?) ?
- ...
J'ai fait quelque chose de comparable avec un tour opérateur 2ème quinzaine d'août.
Pour l'eau on trouve des sources et des fontaines (plus pastille) et bien souvent des gamins qui vendent des bouteilles d'eau et de coca.
Température : oui il faut chaud et le soleil tape. Mais ça se passe bien. Disons comme le Gr20 en corse. Au niveau sensation on était tous assommé par la chaleur à Marrackesh (40°) le premier jour en descendant de l'avion, mais on était beaucoup mieux en altitude ( désolé je n'ai pas de relève objectif),
Pour les bivouacs, une polaire le soir et un duvet standard (genre 0/10° avec lequel on est bien à 12/15° ) et puis je crois un petit blouson pour le départ à 4h du mat pour le Toubkal.
Hello Gowap !
J'ai déjà organisé ce genre de trek au début juillet.....pas de problème pour la chaleur. Août est plus chaud encore. Il peut faire 50 à Marrakech et plus que 20 -25 à 2'500 m d'altitude. Même en plein midi c'est supportable. Donc n'hésite pas à y aller. C'est bien-sûr la hautre saison pour les trek, mais avantla mi-juillet c'est encore tranquille et il y a de la place dans les montagnes ! L'endroit le plus encombré sera le refuge Neltner au pied du Toubkal.
Pour l'équipement, il faut en effet prendre des habits et un duvet chaud, surtout si tu veux faire du bivouac.
Pour le reste, à moins de bien connaître les circuits et avoir le moyen de te ravitailler.....le mieux est de t'adjoindre une petite équipe locale. Surtout si vous êtes en groupe. Sinon ça va être difficile. Monter au Toubkal seul, c'est possible, l'itinéraire est assez simple, mais faire le tour du toubkal (6-8 j. min.) vaut mieux bien connaître.
Une adresse imparable est OmAR LE ROUGE à Armed, au-dessus d'Imlil. La première Auberge en arrivant au village. Pour un petit groupe, il en coûte en général 60€ - 70€/pers/jour. Transfert de Marrakech à Marrakech. Si tu voyage en individuel, tu peux monter de Marrakech jusqu'à Aremd= 70 km. Compte 2h de voiture (taxi ?) ou bus local selon horaire jusqu'à Imlil et encore 20-30min. à pied pour Aremd. Mais Omar ou sa famille viendra te chercher à Imlil en voiture ou en mule si besoin.
Ce dernier est cité à de nombreuses reprises sur ce forum. Très connu et célèbre dans le village (un des pionniers de la randonnée au Toubkal). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0JzFbmPK9I
C'est le meilleur guide que je connaisse dans le coin. Ensuite, pour le trek, il s'occupe de tout: tente, nourriture, transport des bagages en mule, réservation des gîte ou refuge....rencontre avec les bergers et ascencion du Toubkal, etc. Vraiment sans souci aucun. Si tu es seul c'est sûr que le prix à la journée est plus élevé que si vous êtes 4,5,6 ou 10 !?!
Pour l'eau, tu peux bien transporter des bouteilles....il y en a à Imlil et Aremd.....mais sur plusieurs jours le plus simple est de faire bouillir de l'eau de "cuisine" et remplir une bouteille thermos - eau chaude refroidie ou thé très pratique pour la randonnée. Encore un fois, le guide est très utile, il sait où trouver de l'eau et comme il te fait la cuisine matin-midi et soir il y a de l'eau en permanence.
50 à Marrakech .... Disons que c'est effectivement ce que l'on raconte au café du commerce.
Mais plus serieusement la moyenne officielle des maxi en août est 36°C, et le record de ces 20 dernières années est 45!
(source : weatherbase)
C'est vrai que je n'ai jamais vérifié. mais je ne crois pas que les pilotes d'avion exagèrent les temp. Aucun intérêt ni pour eux, ni pour les touristes qu'ils transportent....donc quand c'est eux qui annoncent 48...j'ai tendance à les croire.
Mais ça n'est pas très important. Entre 40 et 50 on ne sent plus la différence......
Ce qui compte par contre - pour ceux qui n'y ont jamais été confrontés - c'est de savoir que la chaleur sèche comme à Marrakech, est beaucoup plus supportable que celle de Paris ou les 32 degrés humides en Suisse parfois.
Et l'important pour la questions de notre ami est de savoir que dès qu'on se trouve en altitude la temp. est très supportable, même aux heures de midi, où généralement les guides savent s'arrêter à l'ombre d'un arbre ou d'une tente si le terrain est désertique....le temps que la grosse chaleur s'estompe....et puis il y a toujours du vent en montagne et ceci nous rafraîchit bien.....par contre attention à la déshydratation encore plus menaçante !
Quoi donc ? La déshydratation ? Oui, quand je marche je porte peu d'eau, je bois moins que la moyenne et je gère une très légère déshydratation jusqu'au soir.
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Nous avons comme projet de séjourner 8 jours sur l'ile de Sao Nicolau, sac à dos. Nous hésitons de prendre le bateau de Sao Vicente ou un vol inter iles. On me dit que les bateaux ne partent pas toujours?
Nous souhaitons faire trois haltes chez l'habitant afin de voyager en étoile de chacun des 3 points.
Première escale dans les environ de Juncalinho, deuxième escale du coté de Cachaco et enfin une troisième étape du coté de Tarrafal. Nous recherchons des pensions simple mais authentiques (pas d'hôtels). Avez-vous des suggestions?
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Hello,
In mid-November, we’ll be in Mindelo and Santo Antão.
We’ve booked transportation with Kapverden Tours.
One trip is from Porto Novo to Ponta do Sol, including the hike from Corda to Coculi.
What’s the trail like?
Then we’ll be staying in Ponta do Sol,
Here’s what we’re planning:
A hike to Fontainhas—what’s the best direction, considering we’re not great with climbs? No problem with flat terrain or descents.
Take an aluguer to Ribeira Grande and continue along the coastal road.
With the agency:
An excursion to Cruzinha with a short walk.
Return to Porto Novo via the path from Cova to… I’m not sure where yet, to pick up the car for Porto Novo, since we’ll be taking the ferry that evening.
We’ll have a guide for this hike.
We’d love to spend a day in Tarrafal, but getting back requires a boat or taxi, and it’s really expensive!
We’re a couple, 78 and 76 years old.
What do you think of this itinerary?
I’m planning to do the Mercantour crossing following the Randoxygène route in mid-July.
I’m used to hiking in the mountains, but I sometimes get vertigo, for example on ridges with drops on both sides. I wanted to check if there are any T4 or T3-T4 sections and find out if there are any very exposed passages—and if so, where—so I can plan an alternative route.
Can anyone give me some info on this?
Thanks!
hi how can I get internet when I arrive at Haneda? I mean in areas without free wifi. Is it more interesting to buy a SIM card? If so, at the airport? thanks for your help
We're planning to go at the end of November/beginning of December to visit (with a rental car) and hike on La Palma and El Hierro for 15 full days, including 1 day for inter-island ferry transfers. What’s the best split between the two islands—8 days on La Palma and 6 on El Hierro, or even more time for La Palma? Should we have one or two home bases on La Palma? Thanks for your tips!
Annie
Hi there,
I’m planning to cross the Gourgs Blancs Pass at the end of the month, from La Soula Refuge to Portillon Refuge. On this section near the pass, I don’t have any trail marked on my IGN map. Is the path well signposted, or should I use a compass?
Also, beyond the physical effort, are there any technical, exposed, or vertigo-inducing sections on this part?
Since I’m finding very little info, I’m being thorough with my questions.
I'm developing a free and open-source web app for planning walking and cycling trips (and even car trips). You can create a route by clicking directly on the map to add waypoints, and it can consist of multiple stages. The app provides tools to edit the stages and the overall route, and to display useful information (distances, altitudes, and elevation changes). A relief profile can be shown as a graph for a specific stage or the entire route.
Once the route is ready, it can be exported as a GPX file, which can then be used with a GPS or a mobile navigation app.
The app is built in JavaScript and runs entirely in the web browser. It uses the Leaflet library and several OpenStreetMap-based services. Initially developed for my personal needs (I enjoy hiking and cycle touring), I’d be happy to share it with anyone who might find it useful. It’s free to use, doesn’t require an account, and the source code is available.
hi there
I’m heading to Uzbekistan for three weeks from mid-September to mid-October 2026—a country I haven’t visited yet.
I’d love to do a few multi-day hikes in the mountains without going through a tour operator or hiring a guide. Has anyone here done this?
It doesn’t have to be all trekking; day hikes are great too.
I’m open to any tips!
Also, I see there are lots of train options if you book well in advance—does that only apply to the "fast" trains? Are there buses as well?
Not very well known: Hokkaido Island has national parks that rival those in North America. Hiking there is free (even many mountain huts) and requires no formalities. These treks are described in the LP *Hiking in Japan* guide—you can just buy the Hokkaido PDF. It’s way better than Mount Fuji. Of course, everything depends on the weather, which is very unstable in the Japanese mountains (frequent strong winds). The trails are often obstacle courses.
The Daisetsu Zan traverse is a stunning hike through volcanic terrain with a remote section in the middle that requires at least one night of camping (there are basic huts for the rest, which is popular with Japanese hikers): 4 to 6 days.
The Shiretoko traverse takes 2 days with views including an island in Russia, but the ridge is brown bear territory—there are even more here than in Denali National Park in Alaska (brown bears and grizzlies are the same). I ran into 7 in just 6 hours of hiking!
Hi everyone,
I’m leaving on Monday, August 3rd for my very first long-distance trek: the GR223 from Coutances to Mont Saint-Michel, over 6-7 days (~11-14 miles/day), solo.
I’m looking for tips from people who know this section well (Coutances → Regnéville-sur-Mer → Hauteville-sur-Mer → Bréhal → Granville → Genêts → bay crossing):
Budget-friendly accommodations: I’m struggling to find affordable stopover lodgings (a lot of what I find online are expensive vacation rentals, not really suited for a solo hiker). If you have any great spots (hostels, hiker-friendly B&Bs, nice campgrounds), I’d love to hear them!
Bay crossing: Any feedback on guides/providers leaving from Genêts for the final crossing?
General tips for a first long-distance trek: What you wish you’d known before your first time, pitfalls to avoid, etc.
Hi,
We’re planning to do the 4-day trek from Mestia to Ushguli without an agency. The descriptions mention that there are accommodations at each stop, but we can’t find any details about them. Has anyone got info or feedback on this route?
New to this forum, I’m planning a pretty big project for 2028.
I’m heading to Nepal to do a trek from Kathmandu all the way to Everest Base Camp (a cool 5,300 m 😄).
This trek is a bit special because even though I’ll be part of a group, I’m going solo (so far, no problem—I’m used to it). But it’s my first real trek, and it’s also a humanitarian one: once I reach base camp, I’ll stay an extra week to help clean up the waste left by tens of thousands of climbers! Since I’m originally from South America, from two countries that share the Andes, I have a deep respect for mountains—they fascinate me. So Everest… it’s kind of the trip of a lifetime!
So, a little question for those who’ve done treks to Everest before… any tips for good mental preparation (I’m already working on the physical side)?
We're planning to trek in Peru and Bolivia and would love to find some local agencies.
If you know any, could you share details on prices and, of course, the names of the agencies?
Which trek would you recommend?
Elocine
I'm heading out on a fully self-sufficient trek in Morocco (10 days) from Imilchil to Aghbalou.
Can I find screw-on gas canisters (Coleman, Primus) in Marrakech (any addresses?) or in villages between Imilchil and Aghbalou?
If not, are Butagaz canisters for camping gas (small 230g size) available?
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Hello, I’d like to embark on a little trip in my home country, Switzerland. I’ll start walking from La Cure, heading toward Le Noirmont first, then I’ll improvise my route—but it’ll probably follow the French border... at least as far as Lac de Joux.
I’ll decide day by day how much farther to go after that. My goal is to stay in nature as much as possible, wander around for as long as I can, and restock food in villages or towns along the way.
I’m thinking of mostly camping, but we’ll see if I end up in a hotel or another campsite depending on my route.
I’d love to reach La Chaux-de-Fonds on foot... maybe even Delémont.
The whole thing should take about a week, give or take.
I’ll be bringing my dog, and I’m preparing for this as soon as I’m ready.
Any tips to make sure everything goes smoothly for us? Things I should know—or avoid? What about shepherds with their flocks of sheep? And isn’t hunting season open right now?
I’m not sure if what I’m planning is even doable, which is why I’m asking around.
This’ll be my first time doing something like this—wandering in nature *and* with a dog. I’m really excited for this adventure... and I need it. Thanks!
We’re really keen on ecosystems and want to hike in "natural" ancient forests—not planted woods or areas heavily degraded by human activity. Travel guides (like Lonely Planet) don’t provide much info on this. Could you point us to the most interesting spots?
Thanks in advance for your tips.
We wish you happy holidays and a fantastic 2026, full of discoveries!
Claire and Albert
Hi, this might not be the right section, but I’d like to know if it’s possible to start mountaineering with another person without necessarily hiring a guide. We’ve done quite a bit of hiking but not mountaineering—we’ll just do a half-day glacier course. After that, we were thinking of starting with La Grande Motte and the Pointe de la Traversière, which were recommended to us. Honestly, for things like roping up and knots, I’ll learn at home with lots of videos and a book.
I’d love to know if anyone has done treks in the Rwenzori Mountains and how much it costs on average, what the infrastructure is like, the landscapes, and safety in the area. Thanks so much! I’m really looking forward to your replies.
We’re leaving in 9 days for a two-week trip to Madeira, mainly to hike.
From my research, I’ve found that since last year, access to most trails—and systematically for the most popular ones—is now paid. You have to pay an access fee of 4.50 € per person per classified hike in 2026, and even 10.50 € for the most iconic hike: Pico Arieiro to Pico Ruivo. When paying, you also have to choose a day and a 30-minute time slot for your start time. Of course, this reservation is neither changeable nor refundable, even if the weather that day is terrible.
Personally, given the massive influx of tourists to the island in recent years, I don’t mind paying a fee to help maintain the trails. Similarly, setting a limit on the number of people who can hike them per day is certainly preferable to preserve this priceless heritage.
However, what’s much less fair is that in reality, most of the available spots are reserved: 1/ for Madeira residents (which is normal); 2/ for "economic operators" (meaning local tour operators). For example, if you’re a non-resident (independent tourist), no booking is possible for the Pico Arieiro hike for an early morning start before September! So, unfortunately, we’ll have to skip this hike.
It’s the same issue for Ponta de São Lourenço, the 25 Fontes, Pico Ruivo... in short, all the most popular hikes. Oh well, we’ll skip those too!
So my question is: which hikes do you recommend where we won’t face the huge crowds that the others get? And where we can book the day before for the next day, taking the weather into account?
Finally, a quick accommodation question: we’ve booked the first week in Funchal, but I haven’t decided yet for the second week. Do you have any advice on where to stay in the south or north, preferably avoiding overly concrete-heavy and touristy spots?
I’m reposting about the logistics for Samaria Gorge.
I’d love to get recent info, especially about whether it’s possible to park my car in Omalos, do the hike, and then catch a bus back to my vehicle.
In theory, it’s doable, but when you check the KTEL website, there aren’t any feasible schedules listed. If anyone has recently organized this with reliable, verified details, I’d really appreciate it. Thanks in advance!
Hi there,
We’re flying from Montreal to Lyon this August to go hiking in the French Alps. We’ve rented a car and will be staying at campgrounds. We’re planning to do day hikes and want to stay a few days in one spot, do a few hikes, then move on to our next camping spot. Could you share your favorite spots or any recommendations for places to spend a few days with great hikes?
A few details:
We arrive in early August and leave in early September.
We’re looking for day hikes (or shorter), moderate difficulty, with a cumulative elevation gain of no more than 1000m, and of course, beautiful scenery!
We’d prefer not to drive too much—maybe it’s best not to head too far south and deal with unnecessary heat?
Along the same lines, if you know of any great campgrounds where we can start our hike directly without needing the car, we’d love to hear your suggestions!
Hi there,
I’m planning to go hiking on this island and would like to know the best time to do it. I visited for a few days in November 2018—not for hiking but just to explore—and the weather wasn’t great, especially in the mountains. So, is a star-shaped itinerary doable if I rent a car and maybe use two different accommodations?
I’m not planning to join an organized group—just traveling with one other person and organizing things ourselves—unless you’d recommend a local agency or guide. Finally, even though I’ll be getting maps, a topo guide, and a GPS, I’d really appreciate your top hiking recommendations.
Thanks so much for your tips!
I’m planning a trip around Cap Corse and the AGRIATES in 2026, from May 8th to 15th (there are still 2 spots left, by the way! Just DM me if you're interested).
I’d love to know which hikes are worth prioritizing in the AGRIATES. We’ll be staying in SALECCIA for two days as our base—what should we focus on from there?
A round trip to IGNHU beach? Any other suggestions?
For Ostricano, I think it’s too far for a round trip...
Thanks for your tips!
Have a great day,
Anie, Toulouse
I’d like to get some info about the GR10 Pyrenees traverse. I need help planning the daily stages and accommodations—my wife isn’t an experienced hiker but walks a lot, so I’d like to schedule shorter walking days and thus a longer overall trip in terms of number of days.
Could anyone give me some help and advice?
Best regards,
Hi there, I’m planning the Annapurna Circuit for March 2027 and I’m looking for a local agency with a local guide—preferably French-speaking—to arrange this trek for us. Any suggestions? Thanks
Hello!
We’re spending a few days in Toraja country at the end of May. We’d love to do a day trek—taking our time—on a route that’s stunning in terms of scenery, but not a level 5 in difficulty!
Any suggestions you can share, please?
Thanks in advance
I’d like to do the Mare a Mare Sud in May over 4 days. I’ve found quite a few places to stay along the route, but I’m stuck on the start and finish.
I’ll be arriving by plane on Sunday evening and would like to start pretty early on Monday morning. Ideally, accommodation right at the trailhead (Alzu di Gallina) would be amazing, but I can’t find anything. Any tips?
Also, for the transfer from Figari Airport to Porto Vecchio or Alzu di Gallina?
At the end, I’d like to pick up a rental car—any advice on that too?
