Train pour le Machu Picchu
by Muchogusto
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Hola
Je voulais prendre le train jusqu'à Aguas Calientes et prendre une chambre pour me reposer et y laisser mon sac à dos avant de visiter le MP , hors il semblerait que l'on ne puisse pas prendre le train avec un sac à dos de 70 litres .
Quelqu'un peut-il me le confirmer ?
Gracias
Danielito
Il faut vivre ses rêves plutôt que rêver sa vie.
Perso je n'avais qu'un tout petit sac, mais j'ai vu pas mal de 60 ou 70l dans le train donc je dirais on peut prendre le train avec un gros sac (en tous cas on pouvait en 2012)
il n'est nulle autre véritable richesse que les relations humaines
Bonsoir,
Oui, normalement il ya une limite de taille pour les bagages. Je n'ai pas vu de contrôles mais c'était en janvier, le train n'était pas plein donc ils ne devaient pas s'en soucier. Il serait peut-être plus prudent que tu laisses ton sac à une autre étape (Cuzco ou Ollantaytambo), les hôteliers sont habitués!
Hola
Le problème c'est que je ne voulais pas dormir à Ollantay mais à Aguas calientes pour être de bonne heure au MP .
Surtout que je veux monter à pied .
Mais comme j'y serais fin Septembre ou début Octobre , peut-être qu'ils me laisseront tranquille .
Quelle compagnie me préconisez-vous ? ( je veux dire la moins onéreuse , je trouve qu'ils exagèrent )
Danielito
Il faut vivre ses rêves plutôt que rêver sa vie.
bonjour
Pour le MP .....je deconseille de monter a pied ...
les premiers bus partent d aguas Caliente vers 5 h du matin et en prenant les 1 er bus on est sur le site avant l ouverture ce qui permet de profiter du site avant l arrivée des hordes de touristes vers 10 -11 h ..
la montée est tres raide et a coté de la route ..ce qui est demoralisant de voir passer les bus ..
Gardez vos forces pour aller au Whayna ou de l autre coté a mla Puerta del Sol ou au sommet du picchu ..
Pourmoi la montée ne presente aucun intéret .. mais a chacun son choix !!
bon sejour au Perou
cerise 11
Dormir à Aguas Calientes, oui
Mais tu peux laisser ton sac dans la ville où te seras la nuit précedente
Concretement j'ai laissé mon sac à Cusco, pris un bus jusqu'à Ollantaytambo, puis le train jusqu'à Aguas Calientes. La nuit à A.C., le Machu Picchu dès l'aube, redescente le soir pour prendre le dernier train retour. Et j'ai ensuite récupéré mon sac à Cusco. Donc comme dit dans mon 1er message, dans le train je n'avais qu'un petit sac avec le minimum vital
Pour le train ru n'as guère le choix. Oublions le luxueux et très onéreux Hiram Bingham. Reste le vistadome, assez cher mais sans commune mesure avec le précédent, et le "basic" (j'ai oublié son appellation exacte) qui coute quand même quelques dizaine de dollars
Pour faire vraiment économique, reste ... la marche le long de la voie ferrée depuis la centrale hydroelectrique via Santa Teresa, pas mal d'heure de bus et 2 ou 3h de marche
Concretement j'ai laissé mon sac à Cusco, pris un bus jusqu'à Ollantaytambo, puis le train jusqu'à Aguas Calientes. La nuit à A.C., le Machu Picchu dès l'aube, redescente le soir pour prendre le dernier train retour. Et j'ai ensuite récupéré mon sac à Cusco. Donc comme dit dans mon 1er message, dans le train je n'avais qu'un petit sac avec le minimum vital
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Pour faire vraiment économique, reste ... la marche le long de la voie ferrée depuis la centrale hydroelectrique via Santa Teresa, pas mal d'heure de bus et 2 ou 3h de marche
il n'est nulle autre véritable richesse que les relations humaines
Bonjour,
Elbucanero a parfaitement indiqué ce que je voulais te répondre!
En ce qui concerne le moyen de se rendre à HydroElectrica, c'est expliqué ici. J'ai mis toutes les notes que j'avais glanées + mon expérience sur le site que je suis en train de peaufiner.
Pour le train, il y a incarail depuis Ollantaybambo et Peru Rail qui part de Poroy (30 mn de Cusco) ou d'Ollantaytambo. Inutile de prendre le vistadome, l'executive suffit. Le paysage environnant n'est pas suffisamment spectaculaire pour justifier le panoramique - sauf si tu as envie d'un service à table!
Mucho gusto
Je suis au courant pour une marche depuis la centrale hydro mais je ne suis pas intéressé .
Je pensais effectivement monter au MP à pied , qui me paraissait plus sympa , mais si effectivement si c'est pour longer la route alors là je ne vois pas l'intérêt .
Merci à vous tous pour ces infos .
Il faut vivre ses rêves plutôt que rêver sa vie.
Il faut vivre ses rêves plutôt que rêver sa vie.
Il faut vivre ses rêves plutôt que rêver sa vie.
Bonsoir,
Non, le chemin ne longe pas la route sur la totalité. Dès que ça monte, le chemin est constitué de marches irrégulières qui montent tout droit et croisent les lacets. Ceci dit, il fait nuit et il faut compter plutôt 1 h 30 qu'une heure, ce n'est donc pas forcément interessant! Eventuellement, tu peux envisager de redescendre à pied - ou faire le Wayna Picchu effectivement.
Une alternative pour avoir une autre vue sur le Machu Picchu : le chemin qui mène à la montagne Putucusi. (renseignements à l'Office de Tourisme). C'est une randonnée de deux à trois heures(aller) il me semble. Moins connu et gratuit. Si tu arrives avant midi à Agua Calientes, tu dois pouvoir la faire.
Bonjour,
Oui, effectivement en théorie, les sacs de 70L ne sont pas acceptés dans le train, en pratique, il n'y a pas vraiment de contrôle. Par précaution, mieux vaut prendre un sac d'appoint de 20L (pour une journée, c'est suffisant, vous y mettez juste l'essentiel) et vous laisser le reste de vos affaires à Cusco par exemple dans l'hôtel où vous avez séjourné la veille ou l'avant-veille. Les hôtels sont habitués, ils ont tous en général une petite pièce où ils entreposent les valises des voyageurs. Par précaution, apportez quand même un petit cadenas pour fermer votre sac.
Pour le train, vous avez 2 compagnies qui se valent plus ou moins au niveau des tarifs; Inca Rail et Peru Rail. Le vistadome est le service le plus utilisé.
Pour ce qui est du chemin qui monte au Machu Picchu (au départ d'Aguas Calientes, et non pas celui qui longe la voie ferrée), la marche est faisable mais plutôt longue et le dénivelé important, surtout si dans la foulée vous enchainez avec l'ascension du Wayna Picchu ou de la Montagne du Machu Picchu… C'est à vous de voir, de toute façon, vous pourrez décider une fois sur place, les bus montent et descendent toutes les 15 minutes.
Bonne journée,
A bientôt,
Oui, effectivement en théorie, les sacs de 70L ne sont pas acceptés dans le train, en pratique, il n'y a pas vraiment de contrôle. Par précaution, mieux vaut prendre un sac d'appoint de 20L (pour une journée, c'est suffisant, vous y mettez juste l'essentiel) et vous laisser le reste de vos affaires à Cusco par exemple dans l'hôtel où vous avez séjourné la veille ou l'avant-veille. Les hôtels sont habitués, ils ont tous en général une petite pièce où ils entreposent les valises des voyageurs. Par précaution, apportez quand même un petit cadenas pour fermer votre sac.
Pour le train, vous avez 2 compagnies qui se valent plus ou moins au niveau des tarifs; Inca Rail et Peru Rail. Le vistadome est le service le plus utilisé.
Pour ce qui est du chemin qui monte au Machu Picchu (au départ d'Aguas Calientes, et non pas celui qui longe la voie ferrée), la marche est faisable mais plutôt longue et le dénivelé important, surtout si dans la foulée vous enchainez avec l'ascension du Wayna Picchu ou de la Montagne du Machu Picchu… C'est à vous de voir, de toute façon, vous pourrez décider une fois sur place, les bus montent et descendent toutes les 15 minutes.
Bonne journée,
A bientôt,
Hola
Effectivement , je retourne sur Cuzco mais je ne sais pas encore si c'est de suite après le MP .
J'avais dans l'idée de faire les Salinas des Maras et Moray sur le retour avec une nuit à Chinchero mais bon , rien n'est vraiment arrêté car je préfère improviser sur place au gré de mon humeur et des différentes rencontres .
Danielito
Il faut vivre ses rêves plutôt que rêver sa vie.
Bonsoir,
Pas de souci, les hôtels sont habitués à garder les bagages plusieurs jours, c'est un service qui leur permet de s'assurer une nuitée supplémentaire!
Je pense que tu confonds. Dans le train, quelques personnes ont de gros sacs à dos. Par contre, sur le site du MP c'est complètement interdit, seuls les petits sacs sont autorisés. Il y a une consigne à l'entrée du site.
La vie est un défi quotidien
Hola
Je parlais effectivement du train , je n'ai pas l'intention de visiter le MP avec mon énorme sac à dos .
😏
Il faut vivre ses rêves plutôt que rêver sa vie.
Bonjour , je rentre juste du Pérou et voici ce que j'en ai retenu concernant cette partie:
Le facteur limitant est le billet de train et non pas le billet d'accès au MP. En juin la période la plus touristique (à cause des fêtes) c'est peut être les deux ... Le mieux est de prendre ses billets de train sur internet . En fait tout le monde part de Ollantaytambo à Aguas clientes à l'allée et au retour et le trajet Cusco -Ollantaytambo se fait en bus public ou mini bus privé . Il y a plein de possibilités. Le bille d'entrée au MP est de 126 soles + bus :19 USD. Le billet de train: 53 USD.
Si c'était à refaire , je ne dormirais pas à Aguas Clientes qui une ville cauchemar ou bazaar mais partirai tôt de Ollantaytambo. Ca ne sert à rien d'être le premier sur le MP . EN plus il y a souvent des nuages le matin. La visite dure en moyenne une demi journée en traînant et sans faire le Waynapichu.
Hola
Ton option n'est finalement pas mal , d'autant que j'y serais début Octobre donc je ne pense pas rencontrer beaucoup de touristes . Gracias Danielito
Ton option n'est finalement pas mal , d'autant que j'y serais début Octobre donc je ne pense pas rencontrer beaucoup de touristes . Gracias Danielito
Il faut vivre ses rêves plutôt que rêver sa vie.
Beaucoup de voyageurs préfèrent au contraire monter tôt le matin sur la Machu Picchu car le flot des touristes arrive vers 11h (arrivée des trains). Oui, il y a des nuages à cette époque, mais cela rajoute au côté mystique du site et plus vous y êtes tôt et longtemps, plus vous avez une chance d'apercevoir et de photographier le site dégagé. Prendre un train depuis Ollantaytambo signifie 2h de bus de Cusco à Ollantaytambo puis 2h30 de train d'Ollantaytambo à Aguas Calientes puis 20 min de bus pour monter, soit près de 5h pour y arriver depuis Cusco! Même chose pour le retour. Il est plus judicieux d'y arriver la veille. D'autant plus que si vous faites le Wayna Picchu ou la Montagne, il vous faut y entrer avant 11h. Ville sans charme pour qualifier Aguas Calientes oui peut-être, mais ville cauchemar me semble un peu exagéré.
Bonne journée,
A bientôt,
Bonne journée,
A bientôt,
Bonsoir,
Agua Calientes n'est certes pas Cusco mais elle est loin d'être une ville cauchemar!! C'est sûr que la sortie de la gare directement dans le marché "artisannal" surprend un peu mais la ville ne se limite pas à cela et mérite qu'on prenne le temps de la découvrir. Beaucoup de voyageurs arrivent le soir, se contentent d'y dormir et repartent aussitôt faite la montée au Machu Picchu alors qu'on peut fort bien y flâner tout un après-midi et même plus. Il y a aussi une randonnée gratuite qui permet d'avoir une autre vue sur le Machu Picchu.
Bonsoir,
Agua Calientes n'est certes pas Cusco mais elle est loin d'être une ville cauchemar!! C'est sûr que la sortie de la gare directement dans le marché "artisannal" surprend un peu mais la ville ne se limite pas à cela et mérite qu'on prenne le temps de la découvrir. Beaucoup de voyageurs arrivent le soir, se contentent d'y dormir et repartent aussitôt faite la montée au Machu Picchu alors qu'on peut fort bien y flâner tout un après-midi et même plus. Il y a aussi une randonnée gratuite qui permet d'avoir une autre vue sur le Machu Picchu.
Entièrement d'accord ! Je vis à Machu Picchu Pueblo (Aguas Calientes), et la randonnée que tu mentionnes est fabuleuse. Pour ceux qui ont le temps, c'est à dire qui planifient deux jours à Machu Picchu Pueblo, je la recommande même avant la visite du Machu Picchu.
Christophe
Entièrement d'accord ! Je vis à Machu Picchu Pueblo (Aguas Calientes), et la randonnée que tu mentionnes est fabuleuse. Pour ceux qui ont le temps, c'est à dire qui planifient deux jours à Machu Picchu Pueblo, je la recommande même avant la visite du Machu Picchu.
Christophe
On pense faire un voyage, mais c'est le voyage qui vous fait.
Hola
De quelle randonnée parles tu , Putucusi ?
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Do you know how I can book this remotely?
Also, I’m looking for: - A local contact to sail the Nile by felucca for 3 days from Aswan - A contact to guide us in Cairo
Looking forward to your tips, and thanks in advance! Marie
Also, I’m looking for: - A local contact to sail the Nile by felucca for 3 days from Aswan - A contact to guide us in Cairo
Looking forward to your tips, and thanks in advance! Marie
Hi everyone,
I first traveled solo to Japan in 2019, exploring the Kyushu region (28 days), and I’m planning to return with my daughter (she’s an adult and it’ll be her first time in Asia) from April 25 to May 9.
I’m reaching out on this forum to ask for route ideas—this time north of Tokyo, but without heading to the Sapporo island (I’m saving that for a future trip).
I’d love to take advantage of the cherry blossom season and its festivities.
I’m looking to create a route that’s a little off the beaten path while staying within 5-6 hours by train from Tokyo to avoid spending too much time on transfers.
Thanks in advance for sharing your suggestions and experiences!
Michael
I'm heading to MEXICO IN NOVEMBER 2025. Since private guides and drivers are really expensive—over 300 € per day—I'm thinking of exploring the Yucatán by train. CAN YOU SHARE ANY INFO ON THIS? Thanks
Hi there!
We’re planning to visit Serbia (1 week) and then Montenegro (2nd week) with our kids from April 18 to May 4. We’d prefer to travel by train (overnight if possible), but we’re not sure which platform to book on or when to do it (is it too early?). If anyone has any tips, I’m all ears!!
I wanted to know if it’s possible to go from Tashkent to Almaty by train without passing through Kyrgyzstan. I’ve heard the border is often closed 😕 between Uzbekistan and Kazakhstan.
Thanks in advance!
Olivier
Hi there!
We’re planning to head back to Istanbul next year—obviously by plane—and then take the train from Istanbul to Antalya. Has anyone here already made this trip by train with TCDD?
I’d love any tips or info that could be useful for us!
I'd like to go to Montserrat on my own from Barcelona. Share your suggestions with me.
Which train should I take, where to get off, what to see once I arrive, etc.
Hi there,
I need to take a sleeper train from Bangkok to Vientiane in January. I found some ticket options on 12Go Asia, but booking doesn’t seem possible at the moment. I’ve tried simulations for several dates, but no luck. I’m wondering if it’s already fully booked, if they’ve stopped selling tickets… yet 12Go still features it every day 😕
Has anyone else run into this issue? Can I find tickets on another site? (I tried Baolau, but no sleepers left for January 8th.)
Thanks!
I need to take a sleeper train from Bangkok to Vientiane in January. I found some ticket options on 12Go Asia, but booking doesn’t seem possible at the moment. I’ve tried simulations for several dates, but no luck. I’m wondering if it’s already fully booked, if they’ve stopped selling tickets… yet 12Go still features it every day 😕
Has anyone else run into this issue? Can I find tickets on another site? (I tried Baolau, but no sleepers left for January 8th.)
Thanks!
Hi there,
I’m a bit late to be worrying about this, but hopefully someone can help me before I leave.
Tomorrow afternoon, I arrive at Lyon Part-Dieu on the TGV at 5:50 PM and take the TER to Mâcon at 6:16 PM. Is a 26-minute transfer doable? Are the TGV and TER on the same departure board? And are they on the same platforms too?
I’ve been to Lyon before but never had to make a connection after arriving.
Thanks
Hello,
Starting November 15th, I’ll be arriving in Thailand, and during my stay, I plan to visit the north, around the Chiang Mai area, then head south to the Krabi region. After Krabi, I’m planning to take an overnight train to Bangkok. I was wondering if there’s a train that leaves from Krabi or Trang, or if I absolutely have to go to Surat Thani? Also, which official website can I use to book my ticket?
Next, since I’ll be arriving at dawn in Bangkok, I’ve planned to spend 2 days in Kanchanaburi. What’s the most convenient way to get there—bus or train? And if you know any companies or websites, that’d be great.
Thanks for your tips!
Fred
Starting November 15th, I’ll be arriving in Thailand, and during my stay, I plan to visit the north, around the Chiang Mai area, then head south to the Krabi region. After Krabi, I’m planning to take an overnight train to Bangkok. I was wondering if there’s a train that leaves from Krabi or Trang, or if I absolutely have to go to Surat Thani? Also, which official website can I use to book my ticket?
Next, since I’ll be arriving at dawn in Bangkok, I’ve planned to spend 2 days in Kanchanaburi. What’s the most convenient way to get there—bus or train? And if you know any companies or websites, that’d be great.
Thanks for your tips!
Fred
Hi! I arrive in Vancouver on August 24, 2025, and I’m staying until Friday, August 29, 2025—the day I take *The Canadian* train to Toronto.
I’m exploring several things in Vancouver, including whale watching—if you’ve got any great tips, don’t hesitate! Thanks!
I’m exploring several things in Vancouver, including whale watching—if you’ve got any great tips, don’t hesitate! Thanks!
Hi there,
Does anyone know if there’s a bus from Luang Namtha to Boten to catch the train coming from China to Vientiane? If so, what’s the name of the company? Also, how long does the bus take to cover that distance? What’s the condition of the road like?
Thanks for your help!
Tom
I just realized there’s only one payment method accepted for booking the Mombasa-Nairobi express train ticket online: M-Pesa, a mobile money transfer service used in Africa. Would it be impossible to book as a European?
Hi
Have any of you booked tickets through rail.ninja?
Hi there,
I’d love to know if any of you have recently eaten on the overnight train from Bangkok to Chiang Mai.
We’ve always ordered food on the train, and it was really good (and super convenient). But in 2022, we ended up feeling like total idiots (with our 4-year-old daughter...) when we boarded the train only to find out that this service was no longer available... (It was the first time we’d traveled right after COVID.)
That’s also when we saw once again how kind Thai people are—they all offered to share their food with us, even though we were mortified. In the end, we managed to buy some instant noodles, which was better than nothing. Anyway, that’s the little story behind it.
In the following years, we’ve always brought our own meals.
I’ve read online that meal trays are back in service (could you confirm this, please?), but that the quality is really poor. I’ve also seen multiple reports that, even though you can eat well everywhere in Thailand, the train meal was the worst food travelers had during their trip...
Could you give me a recent opinion on this? We’ll be departing from Krung Thep Aphiwat Central Station—do you know if there’s anywhere to buy a meal there before boarding the train?
Thanks so much for your help, and have a great Sunday!
I’d love to know if any of you have recently eaten on the overnight train from Bangkok to Chiang Mai.
We’ve always ordered food on the train, and it was really good (and super convenient). But in 2022, we ended up feeling like total idiots (with our 4-year-old daughter...) when we boarded the train only to find out that this service was no longer available... (It was the first time we’d traveled right after COVID.)
That’s also when we saw once again how kind Thai people are—they all offered to share their food with us, even though we were mortified. In the end, we managed to buy some instant noodles, which was better than nothing. Anyway, that’s the little story behind it.
In the following years, we’ve always brought our own meals.
I’ve read online that meal trays are back in service (could you confirm this, please?), but that the quality is really poor. I’ve also seen multiple reports that, even though you can eat well everywhere in Thailand, the train meal was the worst food travelers had during their trip...
Could you give me a recent opinion on this? We’ll be departing from Krung Thep Aphiwat Central Station—do you know if there’s anywhere to buy a meal there before boarding the train?
Thanks so much for your help, and have a great Sunday!
Hi there,
We’re heading to Thailand in February 2026 and we’d like to take the overnight train from Bangkok to Chiang Mai. Can we book two first-class tickets? I’m only seeing second-class options.
Thanks
We’re heading to Thailand in February 2026 and we’d like to take the overnight train from Bangkok to Chiang Mai. Can we book two first-class tickets? I’m only seeing second-class options.
Thanks
Hi everyone,
For traveling in Rajasthan by train and bus, could you give me some info: where to buy tickets, cost, purchase locations, websites, etc.?
Any tips you have would be super helpful.
Thanks
Hi there,
We’re traveling to Java on October 23, just the two of us. I’ve read that it’s best to book train tickets in advance on tiket.com. Is that true, and how far ahead do you recommend? Are the tickets changeable?
Thanks for your help!
Nicole
We’re traveling to Java on October 23, just the two of us. I’ve read that it’s best to book train tickets in advance on tiket.com. Is that true, and how far ahead do you recommend? Are the tickets changeable?
Thanks for your help!
Nicole
Hi everyone,
I’m planning to travel from Ulaanbaatar to Irkutsk by train this summer but I’m a bit worried about crossing the borders. How does it work? Could anyone share their experience? (I’ve found quite a few accounts of people going *from* Russia *to* Mongolia, but entering a country is never the same as leaving it—especially in this context!)
Thanks in advance! 😊
Thanks in advance! 😊





