Trains au nord du Vietnam
by Jasonbourne
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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quelqu'un a t il des infos sur les trains et autres tortillards au nord du vietnam
un intellectuel assis ira moins loin qu'un con qui marche!
des infos sur les trains et autres tortillards au nord du vietnam
voici le lien officiel des railways vietnamiens : http://www.vr.com.vn/English/hientaihoatdong.html
voici le lien officiel des railways vietnamiens : http://www.vr.com.vn/English/hientaihoatdong.html
personnellement, j'ai pris le train de Hanoi à Lao Cai...;train de nuit, dans le wagon "spécial touristes" cabines de 4, joliment décoré, tout en bois.. un petit air de Tintin et le lotus d'or...je pense que c'est le seul qui soit véritablement confortable..
pour le reste tu as le site des chemins de fer... si tu aimes le dépaysement et les voyages longs... ça te fera voir du pays et rester proches des vietnamiens..
bon voyage
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train de nuit, dans le wagon "spécial touristes" cabines de 4, joliment décoré, tout en bois..
Il existe désormais un nouveau train grand luxe. Il existe des cabines à 4 ou 2 lits avec toilette privée.
Alors les "dollars sur patte" n'ont plus à se plaindre🙂
Il existe désormais un nouveau train grand luxe. Il existe des cabines à 4 ou 2 lits avec toilette privée.
Alors les "dollars sur patte" n'ont plus à se plaindre🙂
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c'est aussi ça le progrès Abalone, on ne peut pas lutter contre ça non plus....
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Bonjour Abalone.Je m'adresse à toi(à tous les autres aussi) car tu m'as l'air d'etre un spécialiste du Vietnam.
1)Pour prendre le train de nuit(avec une moto) de Sapa(20h30 ou 21h30) à Hanoi.Faut-il réserver la veille, le matin ou 1h avant d'embarquer.
2)Après avoir visité la baie d'halong, je désire prendre le train de nuit pour Hué.Ca parait plus court de le prendre à Ninh Binh.Mais est-il préférable de le prendre à Hanoi?Meme question également au sujet de la réservation?
3)Autre chose, je vais parcourir seul à moto Minsk 125cc, le traditionnel circuit du nord-ouest(mai chau, son la, lai chau, sapa).Est-il impératif de porter le casque.Les vietnamiens le font-ils?Si oui, je suppose que les loueurs de motos ont aussi des casques...
Merci d'avance. Eddie
3)Autre chose, je vais parcourir seul à moto Minsk 125cc, le traditionnel circuit du nord-ouest(mai chau, son la, lai chau, sapa).Est-il impératif de porter le casque.Les vietnamiens le font-ils?Si oui, je suppose que les loueurs de motos ont aussi des casques...
Merci d'avance. Eddie
hello
si tu tiens absolument a faire de la moto ramene plutot ton casque
les vietnamiens n en portent pas pour la plupart, on trouve ici des casques fabriques en chine mais je doute qu ils correspondent a nos normes, leur securite peut donc etre illusoire
pense a prendre une bonne assurance, en cas d accident avec un etranger les vietnamiens sont tres solidaires, on ne peut pas les en blamer
la circulation est dense et anarchique mais les vietnamiens sont tres attentifs aux autres usagers et pour la plupart ne roulent pas vite, rien a voir avec notre facon de conduire en europe
si tu tiens absolument a faire de la moto ramene plutot ton casque
les vietnamiens n en portent pas pour la plupart, on trouve ici des casques fabriques en chine mais je doute qu ils correspondent a nos normes, leur securite peut donc etre illusoire
pense a prendre une bonne assurance, en cas d accident avec un etranger les vietnamiens sont tres solidaires, on ne peut pas les en blamer
la circulation est dense et anarchique mais les vietnamiens sont tres attentifs aux autres usagers et pour la plupart ne roulent pas vite, rien a voir avec notre facon de conduire en europe
falempin
Merci beaucoup pour tes conseils.
Au plaisir peut-être de se croiser un jour au bout du monde.
Eddie.
coucou. je ne sais aps si les autres t'ont répondu ou bien s'il est trop tard mais je te donne quand même ton avis. Au vietnam il faut mieux réserver à l'avance dès que tu connais tes dates car les trains sont peu nombreux et souvent plein. si tu es seul ça peut encore aller mais si vous êtes nombreux, ça risque d'être difficile d'avoir des places le jour même.
nous, nous étions 5, 2 adultes et 3 enfants et nous avons du attendre 2 jours à Hanoi une place pour Hué. Pour Sapa, faut vraiment s'y prendre les plus tot possible.
mais c'était pendant les congés scolaires. Par ailleurs tu peux prendre le bus qui dessert la plupart des villes de hanoi à saigon. il y en a davantage et c'est moins cher. moins confortable aussi et plus dangereux car ils roulent vraiment très vite.
bon voyage.
Merci pour ta réponse.Je l'ai lue un peu tard mais ça peut tjs servir à d'autres.J'ai voyager 6 semaines seul en moto, train et moto dans le train.Seul, le train...pas de problème de réservation anticipée.Le train c'est génial.Pas cher pour ceux qui savent acheter leur billet au guichet de la gare{pas dangereux comme le bus nbx accidents graves).
En train on évite une catégorie de routards qui joue à l'aventure mais qui reste collée l'un à l'autre dans les jupes du Sinh café open tour.
Et c'est tant mieux, on rencontre des vietnamiens............
salut Eddie !
nous partons au Vietnam d'ici une semaine et comptons bien faire LA boucle nord-ouest à moto. une fois à Sapa, on voudrait ralier Hanoi en train en mettant les motos à bord. voyant que tu es familier de cette pratique ... sais-tu si il y a de la place pour bcp de motos dans les trains (nous sommes 4) ??
même type de question pour les réservations à l'avance ... tu dis qu'il n'y avait pas de problème pour toi. est-ce aussi le cas à 4 ?
as tu une idée du temps de trajet sapa-hanoi en train ?
merci pour tes conseils !
🙂
salut Paul?,
Suis pas trop écriture, solidarité voyageurs, je vais faire un petit effort.Sinon Skype, mon pseudo Eddie19642 après s'être mis d'accord sur un rdv.
Bref, la moto c'est génial.Il vous faut absolument des Minsks car c'est assez Hard comme route étant donné les nombreux typhons et éboulements.De plus, prévoir imperméable pantalon et veste...c'est pas les Caraibes...
Hotels bons marché...max 5 euros la chambre pour 2 ou 3 personnes...dérisoire.
A Sapa pour le train, il faut rejoindre Loi Cai à 30km.Il existe un site sur les horaires (voyageForum;rubrique voyage en train).Tous les hotels vous diront qu'il est impossible de prendre le train avec la moto sans leurs intermédiaires.C'EST FAUX.En fait ils demandent 50 euro au lieu de 10 euro si on le fait soi-même avec la différence qu'il achètent le wagon entier donc aucun Viet à bord donc aucun intérêt si ce n'est peut-être le confort. Mais voyager avec la population est une expérience qui vaut la peine et se mérite. IL n'a pas été possible de réserver les billets à l'avance(c'est impossible tant depuis Sapa que sur place à la gare).C'est par contre possible de réserver à l'avance pour les lignes Hanoi-Hué-Ho chi min.
A Loi Cai, les guichets ouvre à 16h pour le train de nuit, être là une bonne heure à l'avance pour se mettre dans la file.Pas de touriste que des Viets. ATTENTION:se mettre dans la bonne file du bon train car il faut prendre la file du train affichant Xé Mai(moto).Khong Xé Mai signifiant sans moto!!!! Pour les 4 motos, pas de problème il y a de la place.C'est folklorique.Ils vident le réservoir de ce qui reste d'essence pour des raisons de sécurité!!! Il est peut être de prudent de vérifier que les 4 motos sont bien chargées dans le train avant de prendre ses aises dans le train de toute façons les places sont numérotées. Pour ma part, j'ai pris une couchette dure pour éviter les acariens et j'avais un matelas pneumatique de plage.
En quittant Loi Cai en soirée, suis arrivé à Hanoi à 5 h du mat.Il faut de suite quitter la gare pour ne pas se faire harceler et trouver un endroit calme pour attendre 6h et le lever du jour.
Mais aucun problème au Vietnam, L'habitant est eduqué et respectueux.
Bon voyage à vous.Je vous envie.J'ai parcouru tout le pays et cette boucle du n-o est ce qu'il y a de plus beau à voir.Surtout prendre le temps de communiquer avec les locaux.Vous allez être acclamé sur la route pendant les 1000km...comme au tour de France.
Eddie.
Bref, la moto c'est génial.Il vous faut absolument des Minsks car c'est assez Hard comme route étant donné les nombreux typhons et éboulements.De plus, prévoir imperméable pantalon et veste...c'est pas les Caraibes...
Hotels bons marché...max 5 euros la chambre pour 2 ou 3 personnes...dérisoire.
A Sapa pour le train, il faut rejoindre Loi Cai à 30km.Il existe un site sur les horaires (voyageForum;rubrique voyage en train).Tous les hotels vous diront qu'il est impossible de prendre le train avec la moto sans leurs intermédiaires.C'EST FAUX.En fait ils demandent 50 euro au lieu de 10 euro si on le fait soi-même avec la différence qu'il achètent le wagon entier donc aucun Viet à bord donc aucun intérêt si ce n'est peut-être le confort. Mais voyager avec la population est une expérience qui vaut la peine et se mérite. IL n'a pas été possible de réserver les billets à l'avance(c'est impossible tant depuis Sapa que sur place à la gare).C'est par contre possible de réserver à l'avance pour les lignes Hanoi-Hué-Ho chi min.
A Loi Cai, les guichets ouvre à 16h pour le train de nuit, être là une bonne heure à l'avance pour se mettre dans la file.Pas de touriste que des Viets. ATTENTION:se mettre dans la bonne file du bon train car il faut prendre la file du train affichant Xé Mai(moto).Khong Xé Mai signifiant sans moto!!!! Pour les 4 motos, pas de problème il y a de la place.C'est folklorique.Ils vident le réservoir de ce qui reste d'essence pour des raisons de sécurité!!! Il est peut être de prudent de vérifier que les 4 motos sont bien chargées dans le train avant de prendre ses aises dans le train de toute façons les places sont numérotées. Pour ma part, j'ai pris une couchette dure pour éviter les acariens et j'avais un matelas pneumatique de plage.
En quittant Loi Cai en soirée, suis arrivé à Hanoi à 5 h du mat.Il faut de suite quitter la gare pour ne pas se faire harceler et trouver un endroit calme pour attendre 6h et le lever du jour.
Mais aucun problème au Vietnam, L'habitant est eduqué et respectueux.
Bon voyage à vous.Je vous envie.J'ai parcouru tout le pays et cette boucle du n-o est ce qu'il y a de plus beau à voir.Surtout prendre le temps de communiquer avec les locaux.Vous allez être acclamé sur la route pendant les 1000km...comme au tour de France.
Eddie.
Eddie, merci mille fois pour tes conseils ô combien avisés ! j'ai noté tout ça dans mon petit carnet ... et je suis sûr qu'on te vaudra une fière chandelle !!
et à la façon dont tu en parles, ça fait vraiment rêver ! encore merci et à bientôt !
bonjour,
Si tu avais le temps te serait il possible de me donner des détails sur le train de hanoi a lao cai stp. Nom de compagnie sil y en a une, prix, ou acheter billet à la station même?, station de départ à hanoi, etc.
Qu'as tu trouvé la haut ? je veux dire as tu de bons conseils également , visites , villages, sites etc?
merci d' avance . xxx
Désolée, mais je n'ai pas fait le trajet depuis, il faudrait que tu voies un post plus récent, le mien date de 2008.... !
Tout ce que je sais c'est que ça avait énormément changé en 2008 déjà, et que là encore plus certainement, malheureusement le Vietnam est en train de perdre un peu de son histoire et de son authenticité avec tout ce développement, le revers de la médaille. De toutes façons, tu te feras "rouler" gentiment cmme tout le monde, et tu verras quand même de beaux paysages .. Bon voyage en tous cas
Tout ce que je sais c'est que ça avait énormément changé en 2008 déjà, et que là encore plus certainement, malheureusement le Vietnam est en train de perdre un peu de son histoire et de son authenticité avec tout ce développement, le revers de la médaille. De toutes façons, tu te feras "rouler" gentiment cmme tout le monde, et tu verras quand même de beaux paysages .. Bon voyage en tous cas
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I can’t seem to complete the payment for my trip on the IRCTC (Indian Railways) site. No matter which payment method I choose, my Visa card isn’t accepted. Has anyone here managed to do it, and if so, could you share the method you used? Thanks in advance! Charlie
Hello,
Starting November 15th, I’ll be arriving in Thailand, and during my stay, I plan to visit the north, around the Chiang Mai area, then head south to the Krabi region. After Krabi, I’m planning to take an overnight train to Bangkok. I was wondering if there’s a train that leaves from Krabi or Trang, or if I absolutely have to go to Surat Thani? Also, which official website can I use to book my ticket?
Next, since I’ll be arriving at dawn in Bangkok, I’ve planned to spend 2 days in Kanchanaburi. What’s the most convenient way to get there—bus or train? And if you know any companies or websites, that’d be great.
Thanks for your tips!
Fred
Starting November 15th, I’ll be arriving in Thailand, and during my stay, I plan to visit the north, around the Chiang Mai area, then head south to the Krabi region. After Krabi, I’m planning to take an overnight train to Bangkok. I was wondering if there’s a train that leaves from Krabi or Trang, or if I absolutely have to go to Surat Thani? Also, which official website can I use to book my ticket?
Next, since I’ll be arriving at dawn in Bangkok, I’ve planned to spend 2 days in Kanchanaburi. What’s the most convenient way to get there—bus or train? And if you know any companies or websites, that’d be great.
Thanks for your tips!
Fred
Hi! I arrive in Vancouver on August 24, 2025, and I’m staying until Friday, August 29, 2025—the day I take *The Canadian* train to Toronto.
I’m exploring several things in Vancouver, including whale watching—if you’ve got any great tips, don’t hesitate! Thanks!
I’m exploring several things in Vancouver, including whale watching—if you’ve got any great tips, don’t hesitate! Thanks!
Hi there,
Does anyone know if there’s a bus from Luang Namtha to Boten to catch the train coming from China to Vientiane? If so, what’s the name of the company? Also, how long does the bus take to cover that distance? What’s the condition of the road like?
Thanks for your help!
Tom
I just realized there’s only one payment method accepted for booking the Mombasa-Nairobi express train ticket online: M-Pesa, a mobile money transfer service used in Africa. Would it be impossible to book as a European?
Hi
Have any of you booked tickets through rail.ninja?
Hi there,
I’d love to know if any of you have recently eaten on the overnight train from Bangkok to Chiang Mai.
We’ve always ordered food on the train, and it was really good (and super convenient). But in 2022, we ended up feeling like total idiots (with our 4-year-old daughter...) when we boarded the train only to find out that this service was no longer available... (It was the first time we’d traveled right after COVID.)
That’s also when we saw once again how kind Thai people are—they all offered to share their food with us, even though we were mortified. In the end, we managed to buy some instant noodles, which was better than nothing. Anyway, that’s the little story behind it.
In the following years, we’ve always brought our own meals.
I’ve read online that meal trays are back in service (could you confirm this, please?), but that the quality is really poor. I’ve also seen multiple reports that, even though you can eat well everywhere in Thailand, the train meal was the worst food travelers had during their trip...
Could you give me a recent opinion on this? We’ll be departing from Krung Thep Aphiwat Central Station—do you know if there’s anywhere to buy a meal there before boarding the train?
Thanks so much for your help, and have a great Sunday!
I’d love to know if any of you have recently eaten on the overnight train from Bangkok to Chiang Mai.
We’ve always ordered food on the train, and it was really good (and super convenient). But in 2022, we ended up feeling like total idiots (with our 4-year-old daughter...) when we boarded the train only to find out that this service was no longer available... (It was the first time we’d traveled right after COVID.)
That’s also when we saw once again how kind Thai people are—they all offered to share their food with us, even though we were mortified. In the end, we managed to buy some instant noodles, which was better than nothing. Anyway, that’s the little story behind it.
In the following years, we’ve always brought our own meals.
I’ve read online that meal trays are back in service (could you confirm this, please?), but that the quality is really poor. I’ve also seen multiple reports that, even though you can eat well everywhere in Thailand, the train meal was the worst food travelers had during their trip...
Could you give me a recent opinion on this? We’ll be departing from Krung Thep Aphiwat Central Station—do you know if there’s anywhere to buy a meal there before boarding the train?
Thanks so much for your help, and have a great Sunday!
Hi there,
We’re heading to Thailand in February 2026 and we’d like to take the overnight train from Bangkok to Chiang Mai. Can we book two first-class tickets? I’m only seeing second-class options.
Thanks
We’re heading to Thailand in February 2026 and we’d like to take the overnight train from Bangkok to Chiang Mai. Can we book two first-class tickets? I’m only seeing second-class options.
Thanks
Hi everyone,
For traveling in Rajasthan by train and bus, could you give me some info: where to buy tickets, cost, purchase locations, websites, etc.?
Any tips you have would be super helpful.
Thanks
Hi there,
We’re traveling to Java on October 23, just the two of us. I’ve read that it’s best to book train tickets in advance on tiket.com. Is that true, and how far ahead do you recommend? Are the tickets changeable?
Thanks for your help!
Nicole
We’re traveling to Java on October 23, just the two of us. I’ve read that it’s best to book train tickets in advance on tiket.com. Is that true, and how far ahead do you recommend? Are the tickets changeable?
Thanks for your help!
Nicole
Hi everyone,
I’m planning to travel from Ulaanbaatar to Irkutsk by train this summer but I’m a bit worried about crossing the borders. How does it work? Could anyone share their experience? (I’ve found quite a few accounts of people going *from* Russia *to* Mongolia, but entering a country is never the same as leaving it—especially in this context!)
Thanks in advance! 😊
Thanks in advance! 😊
Hi
Can anyone tell me how to book train tickets online? We're planning to travel from HANOI to HO CHI MINH CITY by train, making several stops along the way. I'd also like to find the schedules and the stations where the trains stop.
There are four of us, and we've already planned stops in HANOI / DONG HOI / HUE.
Thanks in advance to anyone who can help!
Mounette74
Can anyone tell me how to book train tickets online? We're planning to travel from HANOI to HO CHI MINH CITY by train, making several stops along the way. I'd also like to find the schedules and the stations where the trains stop.
There are four of us, and we've already planned stops in HANOI / DONG HOI / HUE.
Thanks in advance to anyone who can help!
Mounette74
Hi everyone,
I’m heading to Japan for the second time with my 20-year-old son. During our first trip, we spent two weeks in Tokyo and Kyoto (plus the surrounding areas). This time, we’re planning to stay in Tokyo for at least 4-5 days and then head to the island of Naoshima. I’m looking for suggestions and advice: Is getting to Naoshima from Tokyo complicated? If so, do you have any recommendations for a stopover somewhere? Given that we’d prefer not to move every day, we’d rather settle in one place and then explore on day trips... Do you think it’s possible to do something like this: 5 nights in Tokyo (Shinjuku) 3 nights in Kyoto 2 nights in Naoshima (or is one night enough??) and if one night is enough, where could I spend a second night on the way back to Tokyo? 2 nights in Tokyo (I’d love your advice on staying in a different neighborhood—last time we stayed near Ueno Park)—keeping in mind we’re flying out of Narita.
I’m considering maybe skipping Kyoto, which I love but has apparently become *very* touristy... Not really keen on Osaka... since we’ll already have done Tokyo as our "big city." I’d prefer towns where nature is present... (a bit like Kyoto, which offers all that...)
For info, we’ll be traveling by train. Thanks in advance for all your suggestions and help!
I have one last little question: Is cash still widely used in Japan, or not at all anymore?
Thanks so much,
Karine
I’m heading to Japan for the second time with my 20-year-old son. During our first trip, we spent two weeks in Tokyo and Kyoto (plus the surrounding areas). This time, we’re planning to stay in Tokyo for at least 4-5 days and then head to the island of Naoshima. I’m looking for suggestions and advice: Is getting to Naoshima from Tokyo complicated? If so, do you have any recommendations for a stopover somewhere? Given that we’d prefer not to move every day, we’d rather settle in one place and then explore on day trips... Do you think it’s possible to do something like this: 5 nights in Tokyo (Shinjuku) 3 nights in Kyoto 2 nights in Naoshima (or is one night enough??) and if one night is enough, where could I spend a second night on the way back to Tokyo? 2 nights in Tokyo (I’d love your advice on staying in a different neighborhood—last time we stayed near Ueno Park)—keeping in mind we’re flying out of Narita.
I’m considering maybe skipping Kyoto, which I love but has apparently become *very* touristy... Not really keen on Osaka... since we’ll already have done Tokyo as our "big city." I’d prefer towns where nature is present... (a bit like Kyoto, which offers all that...)
For info, we’ll be traveling by train. Thanks in advance for all your suggestions and help!
I have one last little question: Is cash still widely used in Japan, or not at all anymore?
Thanks so much,
Karine
Hi everyone,
We’re planning this *very* last-minute—I know! But we’d love to spend 4 days soon (within the next 10–12 days) on a city getaway with our young adult kids. Ideally by train, and for this short trip, we’d prefer not to spend more than 4–6 hours in transit, leaving from Lausanne (Switzerland). We’ve been considering Milan, Strasbourg, or Freiburg im Breisgau, but I’ll admit I’m feeling a bit lost...
Venice was our original plan, but the connection changes in Domodossola or Milan are making the travel time longer this year.
It’s peak summer, so there’ll be tourists and it’ll likely be hot, but oh well...
Any suggestions? We love wandering around, taking photos, exploring cities on foot, trying out restaurants, and keeping things low-key.
Thanks to anyone who wants to chime in! :o)
We’re planning this *very* last-minute—I know! But we’d love to spend 4 days soon (within the next 10–12 days) on a city getaway with our young adult kids. Ideally by train, and for this short trip, we’d prefer not to spend more than 4–6 hours in transit, leaving from Lausanne (Switzerland). We’ve been considering Milan, Strasbourg, or Freiburg im Breisgau, but I’ll admit I’m feeling a bit lost...
Venice was our original plan, but the connection changes in Domodossola or Milan are making the travel time longer this year.
It’s peak summer, so there’ll be tourists and it’ll likely be hot, but oh well...
Any suggestions? We love wandering around, taking photos, exploring cities on foot, trying out restaurants, and keeping things low-key.
Thanks to anyone who wants to chime in! :o)






