Traitement anti-palu pour le Laos et Cambodge?
by Xaver
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
je me rend d ici 2 mois au laos et cambodge, et j aimerais savoir si il y a vraiment bessoin de prendre les cachets car ca coute cher et prefere me payer autre chose.est ce que quelkqu un est parti sans?vraiment des risques si je ne le prend pas?qu en pensez vous, vous qui y avez certainement voyager dans ces deux pays?
merci de vos reponses.
Justement, tu habites là-bas depuis 10 ans, tu as l'immunité des gens de là-bas, donc tu n'as pas besoin d'aucun traitement préventif, ce qui n'est pas le cas de quelqu'un qui fait un court séjour.
Pour Xaver, il reste à connaitre le mode de vie qu'il aura au Cambodge et au Laos (grandes villes?, campagne?, attention aux zones frontières de forets où la résistance du paludisme au médicament est la plus avérée (traitement préventif ou préemtif? c'est à voir), chambre climatisée? et durée du séjour) pour connaitre le mode de traitement le plus adapté.
Salutations
Salutations
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W've got home;
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W've got home;
Bonjour,
C'est sur tout depend du type de sejour, le Cambodge et le Laos les grands axes du tourisme une bon repelent c'est suffisant mais maintenant des balades dans la forêt, les petits villages je connais pas mais surement la prevention doit etre differente. Moi je connais un peu ces pays d'Asie du Sud Est pour mi rendre regulierement mais je sort pas des grands axes je ne prend rien si ce n'est de temps en temps le soir si le besion se fait sentir du repelent sur les endroits non couvert.Bonne balade Daniel
salut
je n'ai jamais rien pris en Asie. On a déjà fait Cambodge, Thailande, Phillipines, Singapore, Vietnam etc. On part dans 15 jours au Laos et là non plus je n'ai pas l'intention de prendre quoi que ce soit à part un anti moustique en spray pour la tombée de la nuit.
Maintanant c'est vrai nous ne sortons pas vraiment des sentiers connus.
Maintanant c'est vrai nous ne sortons pas vraiment des sentiers connus.
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Heureux qui comme Ulysse....
Heureux qui comme Ulysse....
Vos nombreux voyages vous sont déjà exposés aux piqures des moustiques et à l'impaludation d'où l'immunité acquise et vous n'avez plus besoin de traitement antipaludéen dès à présent, à moins que vous n'êtes plus exposé pendant une période d'au moins 2 à 3 ans). Vous avez joué au risque lors de votre premier voyage (mais tout le monde ne peut pas être gagnant comme vous).
Bon voyage
Bon voyage
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Babyalone es tu médecin ? Moi non mais une chose est sur et j'ai vérifié sur le web, l'immunité contre le palu n'existe que dans de rares cas et surement pas pour les voyageurs . Il semblerait que seul certaine personne pour des raisons génétiques sont immunisées ou sinon ce sont des gens qi ont déja contracté le parasite et déclaré le palu. Dans ce dernier cas ils peuvent se faire piquer et ne rien avoir quelques année après mais si ils ne sont plus exposés aux piqures pendant quelques temps comme les personnes qui reviennent en Europe après un séjour très long dasn une zone impaludée cette forme d'immunité disparait ! En ce qui concerne la question je crois définitivement que chacun fait comme bon lui semble, moi aussi j'ai posé la question pour Angkor et les avis diffèrent! Certains te disent que les villes cambodgiennes ne sont pas impaludées, d'autres t'annoncent que près des frontières du Laos et de la Thailande le palu sévit et quand tu dialogues avec les gens sur place ils te disent " aucun risque à Siemreap " . J'ai voyagé en Thailande il ya 3 ans et mon médecin m'avait prescrit un traitement à base d'antibio mais arrivé sur place en discutant avec un francais vivant à Sukothai il nous a dit que le palu n'existait pas en Thailande sauf dans les régions reculées et montagneuses du Nord, frontière avec le Myamar et le Laos . Voila ce que je souhaitais dire à ce sujet.
" Mais les vrais voyageurs sont ceux-là seuls qui partent
Pour partir; coeurs légers, semblables aux ballons,
De leur fatalité jamais ils ne s'écartent,
Et, sans savoir pourquoi, disent toujours : Allons! "
Baudelaire , Le Voyage
Pour lever toute ambiguité, je vais te dire tout de suite que je suis médecin et spécialiste des maladies tropicales et le palu, je connais bien. Je te donne des info confirmées. Les info qui glanent sur les pages web, je ne connais pas leurs auteurs.
J'ai l'avantage en plus de bien connaitre ces régions pour y avoir vécu des dizaines d'années.
Salutations
J'ai l'avantage en plus de bien connaitre ces régions pour y avoir vécu des dizaines d'années.
Salutations
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Lucky that we have a home/Our Home is Nha May Man/Passing rain and dry seasons/In a full-of-love atmosphere/Besides my new family/I have brothers and sisters/The sun shines over the skies/Let's stay here, with all of us,
W've got home;
Lucky that we have a home/Our Home is Nha May Man/Passing rain and dry seasons/In a full-of-love atmosphere/Besides my new family/I have brothers and sisters/The sun shines over the skies/Let's stay here, with all of us,
W've got home;
Ok je te crois . Par contre si tu es médecin quel est pour toi la référence qui determine le type de traitement nécessaire au voyageur qui se rend dans le sud est asiatique.Ce type de débat est tout simplement recurent et il faudrait que le corps médical tranche en toute objectivité hors de l'influence des labos qui ne pensent qu' à se faire un max d'argent. On ne peut bien sur pas passer à côté du palu et l'ignorer en voyage mais malheureusement le voyageur lamda qui se rend en Asie du Sud est va se laisser guider par son médecin qui n'est pas forcément spécialiste et qui lui suivra les indications données par des labos malintentionnés qui ne pensent qu'à vendre leur produit. Y a t'il des cartes mises à jour régulièrement qui indiquent les zones impaludées ?
" Mais les vrais voyageurs sont ceux-là seuls qui partent
Pour partir; coeurs légers, semblables aux ballons,
De leur fatalité jamais ils ne s'écartent,
Et, sans savoir pourquoi, disent toujours : Allons! "
Baudelaire , Le Voyage
bonjour;
je crois que lorsque l'on voyage, on ne doit pas faire l'impasse sur des medicaments preventifs, il est certain que cela a un cout mais ton voyage aussi je suppose non?
je pense que rester en sante doit rester le plus important, maintenant ne connaissant pas ces regions, je ne peux te conseilller, mais si tu lis que cela est conseille de le prendre, je serais toi, je n'hesiterais pas, c'est dommage de revenir d'un sejour, et d'être malade, pour quelques euros economises..🏴☠️
J'aimerais qu'on abandonne ce mythe de médecin qui prescrit à la solde des labos qui se font un max d'argent. Il n'y a qu'en France qu'on admet pas que des entreprises font des bénéfices et pourtant grace à ces entreprises là qu'on se donne les moyens de financer tous les investissements donc du travail et que ces sociétés sont cotées en bourse dont dépendent les caisses de retraite pour payer les retraités.
Le médecin n'a aucun intéret de favoriser un laboratoire plus qu'un autre en prescrivant des produits les plus chers etc ... C'est vrai que les médecins n'ont pas tous la compétence égale, les patients doivent le savoir et faire confiance à celui qui lui parait le être le meilleur pour appréhender son problème. C'est ce qu'on appelle le dialogue singulier entre le médecin et son patient, que la loi sur le médecin traitant tente d'abolir et d'assujettir les patients à un médecin particulier quelque soit sa compétence dans un domaine quelconque.
Si j'ai un conseil à te donner quand tu consultes un médecin pour te faire un prescrire un traitement préventif contre le palu par exemple c'est de lui demander d'ouvrir la page Web du Bulletin Epidémiologique Hebdomadaire, et il aura toutes les informations mises à jour chaque semaine.
J'espère avoir répondu à ta question sur la carte de paludisme, en sachant que cela n'évolue quand même pas de semaine en semaine ni de mois en mois.
Salutations
Salutations
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W've got home;
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W've got home;
Bonjour,
Il est très difficile de donner des conseils généraux valables pour tout le monde. Une consultation particulière permettra de connaitre la personne et ses voyages précédents, le type de voyage qu'il va entreprendre. Il y a non seulement des variations géographiques mais aussi saisonnières. Selon le profil du candidat au voyage, on peut conseiller la prise de tel médicament ou s'abstenir en calculant les risques en ayant une explication claire et acceptée par le patient.
Salutations
Il est très difficile de donner des conseils généraux valables pour tout le monde. Une consultation particulière permettra de connaitre la personne et ses voyages précédents, le type de voyage qu'il va entreprendre. Il y a non seulement des variations géographiques mais aussi saisonnières. Selon le profil du candidat au voyage, on peut conseiller la prise de tel médicament ou s'abstenir en calculant les risques en ayant une explication claire et acceptée par le patient.
Salutations
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Lucky that we have a home/Our Home is Nha May Man/Passing rain and dry seasons/In a full-of-love atmosphere/Besides my new family/I have brothers and sisters/The sun shines over the skies/Let's stay here, with all of us,
W've got home;
Lucky that we have a home/Our Home is Nha May Man/Passing rain and dry seasons/In a full-of-love atmosphere/Besides my new family/I have brothers and sisters/The sun shines over the skies/Let's stay here, with all of us,
W've got home;
Merci pour tes infos, en ce qui me concerne mes renseignements médicuax je consulte de la site de l'AFFSAPS.
" Mais les vrais voyageurs sont ceux-là seuls qui partent
Pour partir; coeurs légers, semblables aux ballons,
De leur fatalité jamais ils ne s'écartent,
Et, sans savoir pourquoi, disent toujours : Allons! "
Baudelaire , Le Voyage
je suis bien d'accord avec vous mais cela m'etonnerrait fort que mon medecin generaliste donne de telles informations..😛
je lui ai demande de me conseiller des lotions anti moustiques pour partir le mois prochain aux seychellles car je redoute un peu le chikungunia, et bien il n'a pas su!🏴☠️,
Bonsoir,
Je vous donne l'adresse du site qui vous donne les dernières actualités de cette épidémie et en particulier aux Seychelles, à la date du 17 Février 2006.
http://www.invs.sante.fr/display/?doc=presse/2006/le_point_sur/lav_chikungunya_140206/index.html
Bonne lecture
Je vous donne l'adresse du site qui vous donne les dernières actualités de cette épidémie et en particulier aux Seychelles, à la date du 17 Février 2006.
http://www.invs.sante.fr/display/?doc=presse/2006/le_point_sur/lav_chikungunya_140206/index.html
Bonne lecture
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Lucky that we have a home/Our Home is Nha May Man/Passing rain and dry seasons/In a full-of-love atmosphere/Besides my new family/I have brothers and sisters/The sun shines over the skies/Let's stay here, with all of us,
W've got home;
Lucky that we have a home/Our Home is Nha May Man/Passing rain and dry seasons/In a full-of-love atmosphere/Besides my new family/I have brothers and sisters/The sun shines over the skies/Let's stay here, with all of us,
W've got home;
merci beaucoup, je vais le lire de ce pas... j'espere que les nouvelles ne seront pas trop mauvaises! car vu ma profession, je ne suis pas trop en position d'être malade aussi🏴☠️
je suis ok avec toi fo meiux prevenir avec des procédés mecaniques puiske les medocs antipalu ne servent pas reellement a l'empecher seulement a soigner les symptomes (le virus ne senleve pas) donc tu peux etre malade sans le savoir puiske tu nas pas de symptomes ou a differer l'arrivee des symptomes il y a aussi des appareils a brancher ou a piles ultrasons ou plaquettes impregnees.
Salut J'ai passe plusieurs mois au Laos et au Cambodge sans traitement anti-paludeen . Selon les conseils d'un medecin de la consultation voyageur de l'hopital Pasteur j'ai opte pour la prevention : repulsif ( type 5sur5 Tropic ) et moustiquaire. Pas de probleme. Bonne route🙂
Salut J'ai passe plusieurs mois au Laos et au Cambodge sans traitement anti-paludeen . Selon les conseils d'un medecin de la consultation voyageur de l'hopital Pasteur j'ai opte pour la prevention : repulsif ( type 5sur5 Tropic ) et moustiquaire. Pas de probleme. Bonne route🙂
Il y a pire que le bruit des bottes, le silence des pantoufles ! anonyme
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I live in the Quebec City area. Thanks
I live in the Quebec City area. Thanks
Hi there! So, I'm hesitating about taking a long trip. I'd like to go away for 2 to 3 months and travel across several continents. I’d love some advice. I often have unexplained allergies and need to follow a daily treatment for my diabetes (insulin). I think I can get authorization from my doctor to travel for 6 months with the treatment—is that correct? After those 6 months, is it possible (instead of bothering a relative to send the medication) to see a foreign doctor to get another 6-month travel authorization? How does it work at the airport? Do I need just one medication transport authorization, or do I have to request a new one in each country (once the treatment runs out) for both the flight and a DCI? Also, travel insurance doesn’t cover chronic illnesses, so will I have to pay for foreign consultations out of pocket? I’m not sure if I explained myself clearly. Oh, and just to repeat—travel insurance doesn’t cover chronic illnesses, so foreign consultations will be at my own expense? Thanks in advance for your help!
Hi everyone.
After years of traveling to the USA without any medical insurance subscriptions—and luckily never having any major health issues (though I did get a scorpion sting buried in the sand at CBSouth, 😇)—life has caught up with us, and we’re now being forced into "wisdom" and leaving our carefree days behind.
So, I’m looking for the best compromise for a 2-month health insurance plan. I’ve read the discussions on this topic, but the most recent one is from last year, and I’d love your take on the current situation. I’m familiar with the usual options like Europ Assistance and AXA, but I’ve just discovered Chapka and Heymondo (the latter seems interesting in terms of both price and coverage).
What do you think of these last two? How do they compare in terms of value for money against the bigger companies?
Thanks in advance, everyone.
So, I’m looking for the best compromise for a 2-month health insurance plan. I’ve read the discussions on this topic, but the most recent one is from last year, and I’d love your take on the current situation. I’m familiar with the usual options like Europ Assistance and AXA, but I’ve just discovered Chapka and Heymondo (the latter seems interesting in terms of both price and coverage).
What do you think of these last two? How do they compare in terms of value for money against the bigger companies?
Thanks in advance, everyone.
Hi,
We’ve planned a 3-week trip to Bali this summer with our 7-year-old daughter. The itinerary includes Sanur, Nusa Lembongan, Sidemen, Amed, and Ubud. The more time passes, the more we read about people getting sick—some with mild to severe traveler’s diarrhea, and many ending up in the hospital. We, as parents, have been through it in Egypt with pretty bad cases, but we’d really like to avoid that for our daughter. Even though there’s no zero risk, and we’ll be careful, can any of you reassure me? Not everyone got sick, right? I’d love to hear positive feedback from parents, but not just them 😊. Thanks in advance!
Hi there...
I’m traveling with a friend for a month in November.
We booked our round-trip tickets from Paris to Phnom Penh, and yes, I know—it was a mistake. We should’ve flown out of Laos, but here we are.
But is it doable to backpack through both countries in a relaxed way?
I’ve seen that the transport takes a while...
Thanks so much for your replies.
Hi there,
I’ve started looking into getting dental implants, possibly in Costa Rica or Mexico.
Do you have any clinics to recommend or ones I should avoid?
For the next steps, I need to choose between Cuba Medika or Medigo—these are agencies that help with medical procedures. Do you have any info on either of them?
Thanks so much for your help!
Thanks so much for your help!
Hi everyone, a question for those who’ve been lucky enough to visit Raja Ampat—should you consider preventive malaria treatment given its proximity to Papua? And how was the food hygiene situation?
Thanks for your feedback! !
Hi there.
I’d like to know if all medications need to be declared at Uzbek customs.
E.g., antidepressants?
Thanks for your reply
For several years now, increased aggression has been observed in Cape fur seals.
At least 70 unprovoked attacks on humans.
It was recently confirmed that this is due to rabies.
The suspected origin is contamination in Namibia by jackals.
The contagion seems to be spreading.
Preventive vaccination (of the animals) is being considered.
Just a reminder:
Rabies affects all mammals.
Once symptoms appear—sometimes weeks or even months later—death is inevitable.
It’s the bite that transmits the disease.
There are so-called "furious" forms with aggression, but also forms without aggression.
In case of a bite, in addition to standard wound care, tetanus prevention… rabies prevention is essential.
Stay careful out there…
Seeing seals from a boat along the coast isn’t rare in these parts…
I need 2 dental implants and I'd like to get them done abroad (it's a question of price).
Thanks for helping me with my search (Turkey, Spain, Romania???)
Can you tell me if you're satisfied with the services provided by Dentist Miguel at Club Amigo in Holguin? I'd like to go there in mid-December. Is it worth the trip to get dental prosthetics done?
Thanks for getting back to me... Michelle from Quebec
Hello,
I’m looking for a dentist who can do a full lower-arch implant with a complete prosthesis. I’m in Quebec and available to travel to Cuba. Need full contact details. Thanks everyone!
Hi there,
My current plan is to get my teeth treated in Cuba, especially for dental implants. Has anyone here had experience and could refer me to a good, affordable dentist? I’d really appreciate it if you could give me an idea of the price for one implant, since I need at least 6 done. Thanks so much!
My current plan is to get my teeth treated in Cuba, especially for dental implants. Has anyone here had experience and could refer me to a good, affordable dentist? I’d really appreciate it if you could give me an idea of the price for one implant, since I need at least 6 done. Thanks so much!





