Bonjour tous
Est-ce faisable / raisonnable dans la journée ? et est-ce simple de le faire par soi-même ?
Je crains de e svoir que faire des bagages et d'arriver tard le soir à Tam Coc également.
Merci !
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Trajet Hanoï - Pagode des parfums - Tam Coc et bagages
by Jacausa
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Bonjour,
Si vous pouvez aller de Hanoï à la pagode des parfums en bus , vous ne pourrez rejoindre Tam Coc par ce moyen de transport. Bus N° 1 de Hanoï à Bus ligne 75 de Yen Nghia à l'embarcadère Bến đò Yến Vĩ https://moovitapp.com/index/es-419/transporte_p%C3%BAblico-line-1-H%C3%A0_N%E1%BB%99i-2921-853219-276160-1 https://xe-buyt.com/bx-yen-nghia-bx-huong-son.html
La visite prend la journée , 3h de bus, ou 2 heures de voiture, 1 heure de barque aller, 1 heure de barque retour et environ 3/4 heures de visite si vous faites toutes les pagodes et la grotte, plus le retour à Hanoï ou à Tam Coc.
Le mieux serait de prendre çà avec une agence ou une voiture privée avec chauffeur qui pourrait vous conduire à Tam Coc le soir.
Les bagages, si vous en avez, peuvent être confiés au bureau de location des barques.
J'y suis allée en 2018, gros coup de cœur 😏 Nous avions une voiture privée et sommes partis tôt (6h) pour éviter la grosse circulation du matin à Hanoï et ses immanquables embouteillages.
Si vous pouvez aller de Hanoï à la pagode des parfums en bus , vous ne pourrez rejoindre Tam Coc par ce moyen de transport. Bus N° 1 de Hanoï à Bus ligne 75 de Yen Nghia à l'embarcadère Bến đò Yến Vĩ https://moovitapp.com/index/es-419/transporte_p%C3%BAblico-line-1-H%C3%A0_N%E1%BB%99i-2921-853219-276160-1 https://xe-buyt.com/bx-yen-nghia-bx-huong-son.html
La visite prend la journée , 3h de bus, ou 2 heures de voiture, 1 heure de barque aller, 1 heure de barque retour et environ 3/4 heures de visite si vous faites toutes les pagodes et la grotte, plus le retour à Hanoï ou à Tam Coc.
Le mieux serait de prendre çà avec une agence ou une voiture privée avec chauffeur qui pourrait vous conduire à Tam Coc le soir.
Les bagages, si vous en avez, peuvent être confiés au bureau de location des barques.
J'y suis allée en 2018, gros coup de cœur 😏 Nous avions une voiture privée et sommes partis tôt (6h) pour éviter la grosse circulation du matin à Hanoï et ses immanquables embouteillages.
Pour bien aimer un pays il faut le manger, le boire et l’entendre chanter. (Michel Déon)
Merci Fabienne 😏
IMPOSSIBLE en un jour, car la pagode prend presque toute la journée (long trajet aller et retour en bateau) + aucun moyen de faire pagode des Parfums-Tam Coc en bus public . Belle pagode mais ça fait un peu double emploi avec Tam Coc, donc mon conseil est de ne faire que TC
Méfiez-vous de la vie, car les ratés ne vous rateront pas!
Bonjour,
Double emploi avec Tam Cco?
J'ai fait les deux et je n'y vois aucune autre similitude, rien de comparable, hormis la promenade en barque comme à Tam Coc qui dure une heure et qui je vous le concède est un plus belle à Tam Coc . Il y a cependant le long de ce trajet en barque de nombreux spectacles de vies sur les rives qui peuvent tout autant ravir qu'à Tam Coc.
La pagode des parfums c'est avant tout un lieu mythique, un symbole fort de la religion, une superbe grotte perchée au sommet d'une montagne au fond de laquelle les pèlerins viennent se recueillir. Il n'y a pas de touristes ou seuls quelques échappés, nous sommes au cœur d'un authentique Vietnam, celui que recherchent de nombreux voyageurs.
Il faut faire çà avec une agence ou voiture avec chauffeur parce qu'en effet pas de bus directs pour Tam Coc depuis la pagode.
Il est dommage que les agences qui se targuent de proposer de l'inédit n'incluent pas cette excursion en conduisant leurs clients à Tam Coc. Et c'est possible à faire dans un temps raisonnable à condition de partir tôt et de prendre le téléphérique pour la montée. Invoquer le temps nécessaire comme le font certaines alors que parfois elles font faire plus de 7 heures de voiture à leurs voyageurs n'est pas pour moi la bonne excuse. De plus au retour, revenir sur Hanoï après la visite ou poursuivre sur Tam Coc c'est same same en temps de route.
Option @ Jacausa
Je ferai le trajet aller jusqu'à la pagode en bus, puis le trajet de la pagode à Tam Coc en voiture à réserver avec l'aide de l'hôtel de Tam Coc
Double emploi avec Tam Cco?
J'ai fait les deux et je n'y vois aucune autre similitude, rien de comparable, hormis la promenade en barque comme à Tam Coc qui dure une heure et qui je vous le concède est un plus belle à Tam Coc . Il y a cependant le long de ce trajet en barque de nombreux spectacles de vies sur les rives qui peuvent tout autant ravir qu'à Tam Coc.
La pagode des parfums c'est avant tout un lieu mythique, un symbole fort de la religion, une superbe grotte perchée au sommet d'une montagne au fond de laquelle les pèlerins viennent se recueillir. Il n'y a pas de touristes ou seuls quelques échappés, nous sommes au cœur d'un authentique Vietnam, celui que recherchent de nombreux voyageurs.
Il faut faire çà avec une agence ou voiture avec chauffeur parce qu'en effet pas de bus directs pour Tam Coc depuis la pagode.
Il est dommage que les agences qui se targuent de proposer de l'inédit n'incluent pas cette excursion en conduisant leurs clients à Tam Coc. Et c'est possible à faire dans un temps raisonnable à condition de partir tôt et de prendre le téléphérique pour la montée. Invoquer le temps nécessaire comme le font certaines alors que parfois elles font faire plus de 7 heures de voiture à leurs voyageurs n'est pas pour moi la bonne excuse. De plus au retour, revenir sur Hanoï après la visite ou poursuivre sur Tam Coc c'est same same en temps de route.
Option @ Jacausa
Je ferai le trajet aller jusqu'à la pagode en bus, puis le trajet de la pagode à Tam Coc en voiture à réserver avec l'aide de l'hôtel de Tam Coc
Pour bien aimer un pays il faut le manger, le boire et l’entendre chanter. (Michel Déon)
J'ai bien écrit "un peu" (j'aime bien la pagode des Parfums, mais je préfère Tam Coc) ; évidemment, si on peut faire les 2...! De toute façon, infaisable en transports publics, il faut une voiture avec chauffeur, pas cadeau pour un tel itinéraire,
Les agences ne proposent pas la combinaison, car entre Hanoi et TC, elles arrêtent leurs clients pour visite (plus certaines, déjeuner) à Hoa Lu d'abord ; Parfum/Hoa Lu/TC est infaisable en un jour
Les agences ne proposent pas la combinaison, car entre Hanoi et TC, elles arrêtent leurs clients pour visite (plus certaines, déjeuner) à Hoa Lu d'abord ; Parfum/Hoa Lu/TC est infaisable en un jour
Méfiez-vous de la vie, car les ratés ne vous rateront pas!
elles arrêtent leurs clients pour visite (plus certaines, déjeuner) à Hoa Lu d'abord ; Parfum/Hoa Lu/TC est infaisable en un jour
C'est bien le problème de ces programmes tout formatés que l'on met bout à bout....sans grand imaginaire 😕 !
Hoa Lu peut se faire au retour depuis Tam Coc, il n'y a que 15 km....et puis la nouvelle mode étant d'aller à Bai Dinh...pas si loin que çà d' Hoa Lu il me semble 😉.
Bonne journée
C'est bien le problème de ces programmes tout formatés que l'on met bout à bout....sans grand imaginaire 😕 !
Hoa Lu peut se faire au retour depuis Tam Coc, il n'y a que 15 km....et puis la nouvelle mode étant d'aller à Bai Dinh...pas si loin que çà d' Hoa Lu il me semble 😉.
Bonne journée
Pour bien aimer un pays il faut le manger, le boire et l’entendre chanter. (Michel Déon)
C'est quand même bien embêtant tout ça.
Si on veut faire un minium par soi-même, j'ai l'impression de passer mon temps à tout organiser jour par jour.
Sinon, c'est agence, guide, chauffeur groupe (que je ne veux surtout pas). Et passer du temps à organiser quand même !
Suis assez déçu pour l'instant.
Merci en tout cas pour vos informations
Suis assez déçu pour l'instant.
Merci en tout cas pour vos informations
Bonjour,
L'anticipation c'est un peu le prix à payer si vous voulez sortir des grands axes...et des agences. Et puis bien que de loin çà semble compliqué, ne soyez pas déçu ni effrayé, tout ira bien, une fois sur place vous verrez comme tout se règle très vite , parce que tout est possible au Vietnam 😉.
L'anticipation c'est un peu le prix à payer si vous voulez sortir des grands axes...et des agences. Et puis bien que de loin çà semble compliqué, ne soyez pas déçu ni effrayé, tout ira bien, une fois sur place vous verrez comme tout se règle très vite , parce que tout est possible au Vietnam 😉.
Pour bien aimer un pays il faut le manger, le boire et l’entendre chanter. (Michel Déon)
Il n'y a pas que des "chauffeurs goupe", il y a également des chauffeurs pour individuels, mais, évidemment, c'est bien plus cher. Pour Guide pas indispensable, le guide du Routard donne d'excellentes explications.
Je ferais la pagode ds Parfums avec un groupe d'agence (avantage : pas cher et guide inclus ; en plus, c'est compliqué ; il faut aller à l'embarcadère, prendre un bateau, visiter la pagodes en bas, puis monter jusquà la station de téléphérique pour le sommet (ou + de 3000 marches à monter), descendre dans la grotte-pagode, puis redescendre (à pied, c'est sympa) puis re-bateau et re-bus Hanoi, et le lendemain matin, vous prenez un train de jour Hanoi-Ninh Binh (6h, 9h, 13h30 - environ 3 h de trajet) + moto-taxi 8 km NB-Tam Coc. A moins que vs n'ayez le budget pour vous apyer un chauffeur pour tout faire ds la journée. j'en connais deux super qui parlent bien anglais et habitent Ninh Binh, donc l'un viendrait vs chercher à Hanoi et vs emmènerait à la pagode, puis à TC ; compter 100$ pour le chauffeur et ts ses frais ; vs payez les vôtres (bateau, entrées, téléphérique, déj)
Je ferais la pagode ds Parfums avec un groupe d'agence (avantage : pas cher et guide inclus ; en plus, c'est compliqué ; il faut aller à l'embarcadère, prendre un bateau, visiter la pagodes en bas, puis monter jusquà la station de téléphérique pour le sommet (ou + de 3000 marches à monter), descendre dans la grotte-pagode, puis redescendre (à pied, c'est sympa) puis re-bateau et re-bus Hanoi, et le lendemain matin, vous prenez un train de jour Hanoi-Ninh Binh (6h, 9h, 13h30 - environ 3 h de trajet) + moto-taxi 8 km NB-Tam Coc. A moins que vs n'ayez le budget pour vous apyer un chauffeur pour tout faire ds la journée. j'en connais deux super qui parlent bien anglais et habitent Ninh Binh, donc l'un viendrait vs chercher à Hanoi et vs emmènerait à la pagode, puis à TC ; compter 100$ pour le chauffeur et ts ses frais ; vs payez les vôtres (bateau, entrées, téléphérique, déj)
Méfiez-vous de la vie, car les ratés ne vous rateront pas!
Merci Jacques pour ces infos très détaillées.
Effectivement pour le chauffeur, c'est hors budget e concernant. Je prendrai probablement une excursion
Effectivement pour le chauffeur, c'est hors budget e concernant. Je prendrai probablement une excursion
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If you have any ideas, I’d love to hear them! Have a great day! :-)
Hi there
My trip’s coming up, and I’m having a bit of trouble with three bus/minivan routes. Usually, I find everything at this time of year, but this time—yikes!
Sandakan → Sepilok: No app for this one—you just hop on bus #14 at the local terminal (pay cash on board). But where do I catch it, and where’s the stop??
Sandakan → Semporna: From what I’ve heard, it’s the Sida Express company (great name, right? 😄). Can’t book online, but apparently, you *have* to because there’s only one bus at 8 AM. Where do I board, and where does it drop me off?
Semporna → Tawau: Found this via AI—is it legit? No online booking, as far as I can tell. Minivans leave from a stop in the Jalan Hospital area, near the Milimewa supermarket, supposedly???? And when you arrive, does it drop you at **Sabindo Square** in Tawau?????
Thanks for any tips—I’m stuck!
My trip’s coming up, and I’m having a bit of trouble with three bus/minivan routes. Usually, I find everything at this time of year, but this time—yikes!
Sandakan → Sepilok: No app for this one—you just hop on bus #14 at the local terminal (pay cash on board). But where do I catch it, and where’s the stop??
Sandakan → Semporna: From what I’ve heard, it’s the Sida Express company (great name, right? 😄). Can’t book online, but apparently, you *have* to because there’s only one bus at 8 AM. Where do I board, and where does it drop me off?
Semporna → Tawau: Found this via AI—is it legit? No online booking, as far as I can tell. Minivans leave from a stop in the Jalan Hospital area, near the Milimewa supermarket, supposedly???? And when you arrive, does it drop you at **Sabindo Square** in Tawau?????
Thanks for any tips—I’m stuck!
Hi there,
we’ll be in Mai Chau in June and we’re thinking of heading to Sapa, but first spending a few days in Bac Ha to do some hiking and explore the area.
Is this a good idea for those who’ve been there?
How do you get there?
Thanks for your feedback.
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Cédric.
Hi everyone. As I’m planning my trip for next winter, I’m looking for hotel suggestions in Camotes, Bantayan, Malapascua, Bohol, and Siquijor. The ones I had in mind seem to be fully booked (unless it’s too early?). For those familiar with the area, is it easy to find accommodations on the spot in January/February? I’m specifically looking for hotels with a pool, beachfront, air conditioning, and easy scooter rental nearby. Thanks for your tips!
Hi there,
I’m planning an itinerary and would love some feedback on whether it’s doable and if the number of days per destination is enough—or too much. I was also debating whether to add an extra night on an island or spend an extra night in Kampot to visit Kep or Battambang.
March 23: Arrival in Phnom Penh in the morning March 24: Phnom Penh March 25: Phnom Penh March 26: Depart for Kampot March 27: Kampot March 28: Depart for Battambang March 29: Battambang March 30: Tonlé SAP to Siem Reap March 31: Siem Reap April 1: Siem Reap April 2: Siem Reap April 3: Siem Reap April 4: Siem Reap April 5: Departure
Thanks for any suggestions or help!
March 23: Arrival in Phnom Penh in the morning March 24: Phnom Penh March 25: Phnom Penh March 26: Depart for Kampot March 27: Kampot March 28: Depart for Battambang March 29: Battambang March 30: Tonlé SAP to Siem Reap March 31: Siem Reap April 1: Siem Reap April 2: Siem Reap April 3: Siem Reap April 4: Siem Reap April 5: Departure
Thanks for any suggestions or help!
Hi there,
Yesterday in the Thailand section, 100% of the new threads were just about beach destinations 😕...
So here’s the counterattack in the form of this photo thread, dedicated solely to the countryside: the locals, their livestock, fields, farms, rice paddies, small rivers, and agricultural machinery. If you’ve got any pictures that fit these categories, feel free to add them!
Comments welcome.
For each photo, I’ll (or you can) indicate the area where it was taken.
Kanchanaburi:
Kanchanaburi:
Sri Chiangmai:
Soppong:
Tha Wang Pha:
Kanchanaburi:
Kanchanaburi:
Sri Chiangmai:
Soppong:
Tha Wang Pha:
🙂 Hi everyone!
Hope you're all doing well! It's been a while since I last traveled, but I'm finally heading out again soon!
For those familiar with SOUTHEAST ASIA, I'm planning to leave in mid-June (with the trip ending at the latest in November), and I don’t have a precise idea of exact places or itineraries yet. The thing is, this period is usually the rainy season...
Any advice? I was thinking of Malaysia or Indonesia, like Sulawesi, for example (all countries and islands in Southeast Asia interest me except Bali).
Any recommendations? I’m doing my research online, but if anyone here has the time and knowledge, I’d love to hear from you.
Thanks everyone, take care and stay happy! ❤️
Hope you're all doing well! It's been a while since I last traveled, but I'm finally heading out again soon!
For those familiar with SOUTHEAST ASIA, I'm planning to leave in mid-June (with the trip ending at the latest in November), and I don’t have a precise idea of exact places or itineraries yet. The thing is, this period is usually the rainy season...
Any advice? I was thinking of Malaysia or Indonesia, like Sulawesi, for example (all countries and islands in Southeast Asia interest me except Bali).
Any recommendations? I’m doing my research online, but if anyone here has the time and knowledge, I’d love to hear from you.
Thanks everyone, take care and stay happy! ❤️
Hi there,
My partner and I are planning a trip to Indonesia in September-October 2026. It’ll be our first time in Asia, and we’re thinking of hitting the classic spots in East Java and Bali, then wrapping up with a cruise around Komodo for some snorkeling/diving. Here’s a rough draft of our itinerary—I’m wondering if it’s doable.
20/09: Flight from Jakarta to Yogyakarta, arrive around noon, afternoon/evening and overnight in Yogyakarta. 21/09: Borobudur 22/09: Prambanan 23/09: Travel to Bromo (Cemoro Lawang) 24/09: Bromo 25/09: Kawa Ijen 26/09: Travel to Bali, overnight in Pemuteran 27/09: Excursion to Pulau Melujan, overnight in Pemuteran 28/09: Travel to Munduk, overnight in Munduk 29/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk 30/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk 01/10: Route to Ubud (via Pura Ulu Danau Bratan, Jatiluwih?), overnight in Ubud 02/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud 03/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud 04/10: Travel to Denpasar, flight to Labuan Bajo, overnight in Labuan Bajo 05/10: Komodo cruise 06/10: Komodo cruise 07/10: Komodo cruise, flight to Denpasar in the late afternoon/evening or overnight in Labuan Bajo. 08/10: Flight to Denpasar (if not taken the day before), afternoon in Jimbaran, overnight near Denpasar 09/10: 10:00 AM flight Denpasar - SIN, overnight in Singapore 10/10: Flight SIN-YQB
Thanks for your thoughts—and for your time!
My partner and I are planning a trip to Indonesia in September-October 2026. It’ll be our first time in Asia, and we’re thinking of hitting the classic spots in East Java and Bali, then wrapping up with a cruise around Komodo for some snorkeling/diving. Here’s a rough draft of our itinerary—I’m wondering if it’s doable.
20/09: Flight from Jakarta to Yogyakarta, arrive around noon, afternoon/evening and overnight in Yogyakarta. 21/09: Borobudur 22/09: Prambanan 23/09: Travel to Bromo (Cemoro Lawang) 24/09: Bromo 25/09: Kawa Ijen 26/09: Travel to Bali, overnight in Pemuteran 27/09: Excursion to Pulau Melujan, overnight in Pemuteran 28/09: Travel to Munduk, overnight in Munduk 29/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk 30/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk 01/10: Route to Ubud (via Pura Ulu Danau Bratan, Jatiluwih?), overnight in Ubud 02/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud 03/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud 04/10: Travel to Denpasar, flight to Labuan Bajo, overnight in Labuan Bajo 05/10: Komodo cruise 06/10: Komodo cruise 07/10: Komodo cruise, flight to Denpasar in the late afternoon/evening or overnight in Labuan Bajo. 08/10: Flight to Denpasar (if not taken the day before), afternoon in Jimbaran, overnight near Denpasar 09/10: 10:00 AM flight Denpasar - SIN, overnight in Singapore 10/10: Flight SIN-YQB
Thanks for your thoughts—and for your time!
Hi everyone,
My girlfriend and I booked our tickets with Saudia Airlines for a trip to Thailand this summer, from July 5th to August 3rd. Given the geopolitical situation in the Middle East, we’re keeping a close eye on the news.
I was wondering if anyone here is in the same situation as us?
• Have you heard anything about possible mass cancellations or if the airline is still maintaining its routes to Asia?
• Are there any travelers who’ve recently returned who could tell us if air corridors have been changed (longer flight times)?
The idea is to know what to expect so we can prepare as best as possible. Thanks for your replies! !
Hi everyone,
Thanks for all your contributions on the forum—they’ve really helped me plan my trip. There are four of us friends heading to Sulawesi for 20 days. Based on all your advice, I’ve put together the following itinerary:
July 30: Makassar – sightseeing July 31: Makassar – sightseeing + overnight bus to Rantepao August 1–7: Tana Toraja with a guide August 7: Tana Toraja to Tentena + visit Tentena August 8: Early departure with a private driver to Ampana, then ferry to the Togian Islands August 9–15: Togian Islands (2 different resorts) August 15: Depart Togian Islands for Luwuk August 16: Flight Luwuk to Makassar August 17: Rammang Rammang August 18: Stroll in Makassar, then return home
Overall, what do you think?
I also have a question about the connection between Tentena and the Togian Islands: Is it doable to leave early in the morning as planned and still be sure not to miss the ferry?
Thanks in advance for your feedback! :)
Thanks for all your contributions on the forum—they’ve really helped me plan my trip. There are four of us friends heading to Sulawesi for 20 days. Based on all your advice, I’ve put together the following itinerary:
July 30: Makassar – sightseeing July 31: Makassar – sightseeing + overnight bus to Rantepao August 1–7: Tana Toraja with a guide August 7: Tana Toraja to Tentena + visit Tentena August 8: Early departure with a private driver to Ampana, then ferry to the Togian Islands August 9–15: Togian Islands (2 different resorts) August 15: Depart Togian Islands for Luwuk August 16: Flight Luwuk to Makassar August 17: Rammang Rammang August 18: Stroll in Makassar, then return home
Overall, what do you think?
I also have a question about the connection between Tentena and the Togian Islands: Is it doable to leave early in the morning as planned and still be sure not to miss the ferry?
Thanks in advance for your feedback! :)
Hi everyone,
I’m currently working on a 30-day itinerary for May/June 2027.
10 days in eastern Java (Malang, Bromo, waterfalls, Meru Beriti Park, Banyuwangi, and Ijen), a short transit in Ubud for a few days, then Flores before heading back to Jakarta.
We’ll spend 15 days in Flores (the classic route: Moni, Bajawa, Riung, Ruteng, ending in Labuan Bajo).
I’d love some firsthand feedback on flights to Maumere or Ende from Bali Denpasar. I know there are no direct routes and that you have to connect through Labuan Bajo or Timor (I think), which isn’t an issue in itself.
But I’ve read here and there that flights to these destinations can be delayed—or worse, canceled—and that it’s better to fly in and out of Labuan Bajo, which isn’t exactly ideal...
Thanks for any tips or experiences you can share!