Mi Mai, nous prévoyons de réaliser 5 jours de randonnée (sans les transferts) dans le massif du MGoun avec idéalement l'ascension du sommet. L'objectif, se dépayser, faire du sport et être dehors.
J'ai un peu de mal à situer tous les noms de lieux que je vois sur le forum mais j'ai cru comprendre qu'il pouvait y avoir plusieurs options:
1) Agouti en boucle avec traversée du Mgoun via Tarkedit et redescente par Oulilimt et finir à Tabant
2) Agouti - Megdaz via Tarkeddit, Ichebakan et Ayt Ali Itou (peut être ambitieux avec l'ascension en 5 jours): sur cet itinéraire est-il possible de reprendre une navette/taxi pour Marrakech dès Ayt Ali Itou et sinon à combien d'heures de marche peut-on trouver une route?
Entre ces deux itinéraires lequel me conseilleriez vous sachant qu'on est sportif et avons l'habitude des longs trek? Lequel est le plus varié? Avez-vous d'autres propositions?
Deux autres questions, où se trouvent les gorges du MGoun? Est-ce après Oulilimt ?(et dans ce cas difficile à faire en 5 jours...d'autant qu'en Mai il y peut être bcp d'eau qd je vois la neige qu'on avait eu au Toubkal à la même période).
Où se trouve la vallée des roses par rapport aux quelques lieux-dits que je commence à visualiser? a priori c'est un autre grand classique de la région cette vallée..
Et puis dernière question, j'ai bien lu qu'on pouvait trouver facilement un guide/muletier sur place mais j'imagine que globalement ca fait "perdre" une journée car il faut au moins arriver la veille du départ pas trop tard...du coup je voulais savoir si vous aviez des contacts de guide ou muletier de confiance qui pourraient nous aider pour réaliser cette randonnée.
J'ai des amis qui ont fait cette traversée d'Agouti à la Vallée des Roses, avec l'ascension du M'Goun au mois d'août et qui ont utilisé ce guide : http://www.trekomaroc.com/
Ils en ont été très contents
Il y a aussi pierre8 de VF qui a un site http://www.martinpierre.fr présentant de nombreux treks au Maroc
" Nous ne saurons jamais tout le bien qu'un simple sourire peut être capable de faire."
Mère Teresa
Bonjour,
En juin 2011, ns avons effectué ce trek, Marrakech via Azilal et vallée heureuse, départ du village d'Ait Said, bivouac vers Ikkiss aarous. Le matin montée vers le col Aghouri, descente au plateau de Tarkddit. Ascension du MGoun et redescente vers Oulimlt. Ensuite ns sommes revenus par l'oued Mgoun, dans les gorges jusqu'à Aflafal. Nous avons passé une nuit à Imi n'irkte ainsi qu'au village d'Aguerzeka et arrivée dans la vallée des roses.
Pour ce faire, nous avons fait appel directement à un guide de notre connaissance, si cela vous intéresse, ns pouvons vous adresser ses coordonnées.
Merci pour ces liens.
J'avais effectivement déjà repéré le site de Pierre mais comme il a fait toute la traversée MGoun, Toubkal, ce n'est pas évident de voir au niveau de quels villages, il est possible de quitter les chemins pour reprendre la route vers Marrakech mais correspond bien à une alternative qu'on envisage en passant par la vallée de Tessaout, Megdaz..
Pour l'autre lien, il confirme que l'itinéraire "classique" en 5 jours fait traverser le MGoun et redescendre par Oulilimt et donc sans voir les gorges du MGoun. Bref sûrement le plus facile à organiser.
Est-il possible de ne faire la rando qu'avec un muletier? Ont-ils le droit d'accompagner des touristes sans guide?
Bonjour,
J'arrive en retard. D'abord Mai n'est pas une saison meilleur pour faire l'ascension du mont M'goun à moins si vous souhaitiez le challenge en raquettes(presque 2h30 de marche sur une
crête à 4000m). En Mai les gorges Aarous(M'goun) ne sont pas praticables, en outre la traversée ne se fait pas en 1 semaine .Je vous conseille 1ere option sans le sommet.
pour ne pas perdre de temps, c'est préférable d'organiser son voyage avec un professionnel et éviter toute surprise.
N'hésitez pas à m'écrire pour + d'infos.
Est-ce que parmi les lecteurs du forum certains ont vu le M'Goun récemment? Est-il encore enneigé ou pas? En gros faut-il prendre des guêtres/crampons pour tenter l'ascension dans les jours qui viennent?
(je sais bien qu'au mois de Mai on peut encore s'attendre à avoir des tempêtes de neige mais bon c'est pour avoir la tendance du moment).
Moi aussi j'arrive en retard... je rentre du Maroc depuis peu (dimanche)...beaucoup de neige sur le M'Goun ; un couple d'Anglais a tenté l'ascension (avec des crampons) ; nous avons tenter de les en dissuader...sans succès !!! Ah ces anglais ...!! Evidemment ils sont revenus au bout de deux jours car trop de neige... non franchement il est encore trop enneigé... Attention aux faux guides sur place ; certaines de vos réponses que j'ai consulté disent vrai...
Merci Thierry pour ces infos. J'avais lu que cette année en Février/Mars il n'avait pas beaucoup neigé...mais ça doit être comme en France...il a dû neiger sur la fin de la saison...
Bon ben tant pis...à moins que tout fonde en une semaine je sens qu'on va se passer du sommet (et du coup on aura une journée de plus pour se perdre sur les chemins de l'Atlas).
Finalement nous avons pu tenter le MGoun, il y avait pas mal de neige. A la montée, on s'est un peu trompé et du coup après être passé par le col qui est à l'Ouest de l'itinéraire classique de l'ascension du MGoun, on a rejoint la crête par le Sud (et là quasi pas de neige). Sur la longue crête pas mal de neige et on a pris une descente qui passait par des zones où on a réussi à s'enfoncer jusqu'à la taille dans la neige...(le chemin en pointillé de la carte du MGoun). Avec des chaussures de marches et des guêtres, ça passait bien. Nous avons entamé la descente avant midi et n'avons pas eu spécialement de vent...juste l'orage au loin qui nous attendait mais qui n'a finalement pas éclaté à notre niveau sur le plateau.
Au retour, le gardien du refuge est venu nous offrir le thé à la menthe dans la tente, c'était très sympa. (il faut dire que sur nos 4 grosses journées de marche, nous n'avons croisé qu'un seul groupe de randonneurs...il n'y avait pas foule).
Nous avons ensuite filé vers la vallée de la Tessaout (c'est vraiment dommage pour les paysages que les pylônes traversent la vallée mais tant mieux pour les habitants de ces villages reculés)...Nous avons dû traverser deux fois la rivière entre Amezri et Ali N Ito avec de l'eau au dessus des genoux et pas mal de débit (sûrement lié au fort orage qu'il y avait eu la veille).
Après le détour par Megdaz, nous sommes rentrés depuis Ali N Ito jusqu'à Demnate avec le minibus du matin (à 5h du matin mais il nous a klaxonné à 4h15 pour plier la tente).
Voili voila pour un résumé rapide
(J1/ Agouti - Plateau de Tarkeddit J2/ MGoun J3/ Plateau de Tarkeddit - Amezri J4/ Amezri -Megdaz)
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Hi,
We’re planning to do the 4-day trek from Mestia to Ushguli without an agency. The descriptions mention that there are accommodations at each stop, but we can’t find any details about them. Has anyone got info or feedback on this route?
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Once the route is ready, it can be exported as a GPX file, which can then be used with a GPS or a mobile navigation app.
The app is built in JavaScript and runs entirely in the web browser. It uses the Leaflet library and several OpenStreetMap-based services. Initially developed for my personal needs (I enjoy hiking and cycle touring), I’d be happy to share it with anyone who might find it useful. It’s free to use, doesn’t require an account, and the source code is available.
New to this forum, I’m planning a pretty big project for 2028.
I’m heading to Nepal to do a trek from Kathmandu all the way to Everest Base Camp (a cool 5,300 m 😄).
This trek is a bit special because even though I’ll be part of a group, I’m going solo (so far, no problem—I’m used to it). But it’s my first real trek, and it’s also a humanitarian one: once I reach base camp, I’ll stay an extra week to help clean up the waste left by tens of thousands of climbers! Since I’m originally from South America, from two countries that share the Andes, I have a deep respect for mountains—they fascinate me. So Everest… it’s kind of the trip of a lifetime!
So, a little question for those who’ve done treks to Everest before… any tips for good mental preparation (I’m already working on the physical side)?
We're planning to trek in Peru and Bolivia and would love to find some local agencies.
If you know any, could you share details on prices and, of course, the names of the agencies?
Which trek would you recommend?
Elocine
I'm heading out on a fully self-sufficient trek in Morocco (10 days) from Imilchil to Aghbalou.
Can I find screw-on gas canisters (Coleman, Primus) in Marrakech (any addresses?) or in villages between Imilchil and Aghbalou?
If not, are Butagaz canisters for camping gas (small 230g size) available?
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Hello, I’d like to embark on a little trip in my home country, Switzerland. I’ll start walking from La Cure, heading toward Le Noirmont first, then I’ll improvise my route—but it’ll probably follow the French border... at least as far as Lac de Joux.
I’ll decide day by day how much farther to go after that. My goal is to stay in nature as much as possible, wander around for as long as I can, and restock food in villages or towns along the way.
I’m thinking of mostly camping, but we’ll see if I end up in a hotel or another campsite depending on my route.
I’d love to reach La Chaux-de-Fonds on foot... maybe even Delémont.
The whole thing should take about a week, give or take.
I’ll be bringing my dog, and I’m preparing for this as soon as I’m ready.
Any tips to make sure everything goes smoothly for us? Things I should know—or avoid? What about shepherds with their flocks of sheep? And isn’t hunting season open right now?
I’m not sure if what I’m planning is even doable, which is why I’m asking around.
This’ll be my first time doing something like this—wandering in nature *and* with a dog. I’m really excited for this adventure... and I need it. Thanks!
We’re really keen on ecosystems and want to hike in "natural" ancient forests—not planted woods or areas heavily degraded by human activity. Travel guides (like Lonely Planet) don’t provide much info on this. Could you point us to the most interesting spots?
Thanks in advance for your tips.
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Hi, this might not be the right section, but I’d like to know if it’s possible to start mountaineering with another person without necessarily hiring a guide. We’ve done quite a bit of hiking but not mountaineering—we’ll just do a half-day glacier course. After that, we were thinking of starting with La Grande Motte and the Pointe de la Traversière, which were recommended to us. Honestly, for things like roping up and knots, I’ll learn at home with lots of videos and a book.
I’d love to know if anyone has done treks in the Rwenzori Mountains and how much it costs on average, what the infrastructure is like, the landscapes, and safety in the area. Thanks so much! I’m really looking forward to your replies.
We’re leaving in 9 days for a two-week trip to Madeira, mainly to hike.
From my research, I’ve found that since last year, access to most trails—and systematically for the most popular ones—is now paid. You have to pay an access fee of 4.50 € per person per classified hike in 2026, and even 10.50 € for the most iconic hike: Pico Arieiro to Pico Ruivo. When paying, you also have to choose a day and a 30-minute time slot for your start time. Of course, this reservation is neither changeable nor refundable, even if the weather that day is terrible.
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It’s the same issue for Ponta de São Lourenço, the 25 Fontes, Pico Ruivo... in short, all the most popular hikes. Oh well, we’ll skip those too!
So my question is: which hikes do you recommend where we won’t face the huge crowds that the others get? And where we can book the day before for the next day, taking the weather into account?
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I’m reposting about the logistics for Samaria Gorge.
I’d love to get recent info, especially about whether it’s possible to park my car in Omalos, do the hike, and then catch a bus back to my vehicle.
In theory, it’s doable, but when you check the KTEL website, there aren’t any feasible schedules listed. If anyone has recently organized this with reliable, verified details, I’d really appreciate it. Thanks in advance!
Hi there,
We’re flying from Montreal to Lyon this August to go hiking in the French Alps. We’ve rented a car and will be staying at campgrounds. We’re planning to do day hikes and want to stay a few days in one spot, do a few hikes, then move on to our next camping spot. Could you share your favorite spots or any recommendations for places to spend a few days with great hikes?
A few details:
We arrive in early August and leave in early September.
We’re looking for day hikes (or shorter), moderate difficulty, with a cumulative elevation gain of no more than 1000m, and of course, beautiful scenery!
We’d prefer not to drive too much—maybe it’s best not to head too far south and deal with unnecessary heat?
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Hi there,
I’m planning to go hiking on this island and would like to know the best time to do it. I visited for a few days in November 2018—not for hiking but just to explore—and the weather wasn’t great, especially in the mountains. So, is a star-shaped itinerary doable if I rent a car and maybe use two different accommodations?
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Thanks!
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A round trip to IGNHU beach? Any other suggestions?
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Have a great day,
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Hello!
We’re spending a few days in Toraja country at the end of May. We’d love to do a day trek—taking our time—on a route that’s stunning in terms of scenery, but not a level 5 in difficulty!
Any suggestions you can share, please?
Thanks in advance
I’d like to do the Mare a Mare Sud in May over 4 days. I’ve found quite a few places to stay along the route, but I’m stuck on the start and finish.
I’ll be arriving by plane on Sunday evening and would like to start pretty early on Monday morning. Ideally, accommodation right at the trailhead (Alzu di Gallina) would be amazing, but I can’t find anything. Any tips?
Also, for the transfer from Figari Airport to Porto Vecchio or Alzu di Gallina?
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I’m traveling solo by plane to Catania in May and plan to hike the northern side of Etna, starting from Linguaglossa where I’ll arrive by bus. After that, I’d love some info on how to get up to Piano Provenzana (shuttles or hitchhiking), since it seems there’s no public transport except in the summer. Can you sleep there in a free or cheap refuge, or camp? And how far up can you go without having to hire a guide? Thanks in advance. Bernard.
Hi everyone,
I’m heading to Morocco in August and we’ll start with a stop in Chefchaouen (we’re driving).
My question: can anyone suggest a 5-to-7-day loop hiking route from Chefchaouen in Talassemtane Park, ideally passing by the God’s Bridge? Or a paper guidebook that covers a few options?
We prefer wild camping and guesthouses.
Thanks in advance
Hi there, for those who’ve been recently—is it possible to find other solo travelers in March on the island to share transport or room costs? It doesn’t seem easy to travel on a budget.
If you have any recommendations for simple lodgings or places with dorms, I’d love to hear them.
For those who’ve done multi-day treks while moving around: do you need to bring your own sleeping bag? I’d love to hear about itineraries you’ve done without a guide, just with a map and GPS.
Thanks, and have a great day!
Hi everyone!
We’re planning a 15-day road trip to Scotland this summer, specifically to explore and hike on Lewis and Harris—places we’ve never been before. We’ve visited other islands on previous road trips in Scotland (we usually go in April for a week). This would be our first time in Scotland in the summer and for 15 days. We’re looking at late August to early September.
I’m currently drafting the itinerary. We’d be crossing from Ullapool and were thinking of spending 3 nights on Harris and 4 nights on Lewis.
Does that sound balanced to you? Is it better to keep the same accommodation on Harris and the same on Lewis to explore the area? I’d love to hear about any past experiences you’ve had on these islands.
Thanks!
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Aichatou
I’ve been wanting to do this for several years, and this year’s the one. Next September, I’ll be trekking in Tusheti (Georgia), from Omalo to Shatili.
Of course, I won’t be renting a vehicle that’d just sit unused. No problem getting to Pshaveli, but from there to Omalo, it’s a dirt road (still the case?)
There must be some form of public transport since there are so many guesthouses, and not all travelers come in a 4x4.
If any of you have been to Omalo, could you confirm that these shared transports exist and how often they run?
we’re planning a trip to Yellowstone and hoping to do a three-day backcountry hike if we get a permit.
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Hello,
I’ll be in Nepal from March 6th to 29th (we’re flying into Kathmandu via Varanasi and leaving via Delhi).
I’m a bit confused about the regulations requiring a guide.
My wife and I (we’re 63 and 64) aren’t experienced trekkers—we’re more used to walking on terrain with very moderate elevation changes. I’m looking for fairly easy hikes, possibly day trips.
Here are my questions:
- Does the Poon Hill trek from Pokhara require a guide, or is it better to go through a local agency? (I’ve seen a lot of them offering 4-day packages)
- I’d like to do a few multi-day hikes around Jomsom (Kagbeni, Mukitinath, Lupra, Marpha)... Do you need a guide for those, and can you find accommodations easily without booking in advance?
Last question—I’m really hesitant to lug around a sleeping bag or down jacket during our 6 weeks in India. Can you easily find these kinds of items at reasonable prices in Pokhara?
Thanks in advance for any tips you can share!
Yann