Pour faire le trek del choro en bolivie, est il besoin de reserver?
fo t il partir forcement de la paz?
Est ce que c difficile?
Est ce que ca vaut le coup?
Et surtout, comment cela se passe t il pour les gros sacs? A l arrivee je voudrais partir sur rurenbaque directement. Je voudrais pas avoir a remonter sur la paz chercher mon sac, ou me le coltiner pendant 4 jours.
Si ca interesse qu un je cherche des compagnons pour demarrer le 4/08, enchainer le trek et une semaine a rurenbaque avant de revenir au perou et regagner lima.
Bonjour Tito,
Pour le trek, pas besoin de réserver !! A moins que tu ne veuilles le faire avec une agence ? Mais si vous êtes deux ou trois, pas de soucis pour le faire sans accompagnateurs.
Tu prends un minibus à Villa Fatima (un quartier en hauteur de La Paz) en direction de Coroïco, et tu descends à La Cumbre. Ca te coûtera à peu près 30 bol pour 2.
Une fois à La cumbre, tu vas t'inscrire sur le registre que tiennent les gardes du parc national, ils t'indiquent gentillement le chemin, et tu pars... sachant que tu pars de 4 600m, qu'il reste 200 m à grimper pour atteindre le col et ensuite, de la descente pour une bonne journée. Le deuxième jour, tu grimpes et tu descends alternativement tte la journée, et troisième jour pareil avec plus de descente sur la fin.
J'ai fait le trek en mai, c'est mon meilleur souvenir. C'est magnifique, tu vois les paysages évoluer au fur et à mesure que tu descends...
Prévoyez gants, écharpe et polaire pour le début, par contre ensuite t-shirts et pantalons légers suffisent.
Prévoyez du ravitaillement, si vous ne voulez pas manger des biscuits et du thon pendant trois jours... les épiceries sont rares (on en croise une par jour, c'est déjà bien !!), et ne proposent pas des mets très variés.
Le trek n'est pas très difficile, mais entrainez-vous un peu avant, il demande de l'endurance.
On le boucle facilement en trois jours, mais vous pouvez prévoir quatre si vous voulez prendre votre temps.
J'avais prévu de le faire en quatre jours, et finalement j'ai fini en trois.
7h de marche le premier jour, 6h30 le deuxième.
Par contre, prévoyez une arnaque arrivés à Chairo : deux frères possèdent des 4x4 et proposent de vous emmener à Coroïco moyennant 20 $ par personne. A vous de voir si vous voulez le faire ou pas. Nous on a continué à pied, jusqu'à faire du stop sur la nouvelle route, en direction de Yolosa. A Yolosa, des minis vous emmènent sur Coroïco.
Comme on a fini à pied, et que mon genou tirait la tronche, on a mis 9 h pour la dernière journée. Mais y'a moyen de faire moins :-)
Pour les gros sacs, on a croisé un allemand qui était dans le même cas que toi : il a fait l'aller-retour La Paz- Coroïco avant, pour déposer son sac, et repartir avec seulement ce dont il avait besoin. Sinon si tu croises des gens qui descendent à Coroïco, tu peux leur confier ton sac... à toi de voir !
C'est un trek que j'ai vraiment apprécié. C'était mon premier, et ça motive à repartir !
Si tu as d'autres questions, n'hésite pas.
Bon voyage !!🙂
Carmine
Coucou,
Pour dormir, tu n'as pas tellement d'autres alternatives que de louer une tente (on en trouve partout à louer dans la calle Sagarnaga à La Paz, dans les agences qui te proposent des excursions). Fais juste attention au poids... et puis ça implique que tu sois avec qqn qui remonte sur la Paz pour rendre la tente et récupérer la caution.
Sinon tu peux essayer de dormir chez l'habitant, mais y' a pas bcp d'habitants, et ils parlent quechua, donc pour se faire comprendre c pas toujours évident.
Nous on a bivouaqué deux nuits, la première à Chall'apampa, sur le terrain d'une grand mère gentille comme tout (là tu as moyen de négocier et dormir sous un abri à elle), et la deuxième nuit on s'est arrétés à San Francisco, au village des hommes. Je pense que tu dois pouvoir aussi essayer de négocier à cet endroit pour dormir sous les abris. L'avantage de la tente, c'est qu'elle protège un peu de l'humidité !!
Remarque que tu peux aussi acheter ta tente, si tu n'en as pas. Les tarifs sont assez intéressants. On en trouve des biens au marché d'El alto, le jeudi matin, paraît-il.
Et pour le pot, ça marche 😉
Profite bien de ton voyage et t'as intérêt à rapporter des photos...
Carmine
Je me permets de rajouter un petit commentaire pour le choro trek, vu que je viens de le faire ya pas une semaine.
1) Le lonely planet a edite un guide qui s'appele "Trekking in the Central Andes", qui contient pas mal d'infos (certaines un peu eronnes...) sur le el Choro Trek. Ca vaut le coup d'y jeter un oeil. Te conseille plutot de faire le trek en 3 bons jours (voir 4) si t'es pas acclimate et pas trop entraine.
2) Ca va te paraitre bete, mais si tu voyages leger, tu arrives a te coltiner tout ton matos avec toi et ca t'evites de t'inquiter pour ton sac. La remontee coroico- La paz prend pres de 5 heures en bus, dependant du trafic...
3) Personnelement je prefere la tente, ca reste plus "confortable" que chez l'habitant
4) Pour eviter l'arnaque finale des gars en 4X4, essaie de choper un des camions qui viennent qques fois au village (on en a eu un vers les 2 heures de l'apr). Pour 5 bolivianos il te pose a l'intersection de la route yolosa - la paz, ensuite avec un peu de patience tu arrives a arreter une voiture qui te posera a yolosa.
Je profite de vos connaissances sur le trek del choro pour vous poser qqs petites questions supplémentaires.
Nous avons l'intention de faire ce trek à deux en autonomie (tente, duvet, bouffe) aux alentours du 15 aout.
apparemment ce trek ne nécessite pas de guide. Est ce que vous me confirmez cette info?
Pour info, nous sommes habitués à faire des treks seuls de qqs jours dans les alpes par exemple.
autres questions importantes pour nous : le retour de Coroico à La Paz se fait il tjs par la route "la plus dangereuse du monde" ou par une nouvelle route (apparemment en construction ou terminée?) plus sure? Si cette route n'existe encore pas, la route "la plus dangereuse du monde" est elle plus sure dans le sens Coroico-La Paz que La Paz-Coroico?
pour le couchage en tente, est il preferable de negocier un bout de terrain chez un villageois, ou bien y'a t'il des endroits reservés pour planter la tente, et si jamais il y a moyen de trouver un bout de champ sans propriétaite apparent, est ce que cela craint (vol ou autre?)?
1) Je confirme, pas besoin de guide, surtout si vous etes habitues a trekker tout seuls. Le seul endroit qui necessite de faire un peu attention est la premiere montee (depuis un endroit appele La Cumbre en dessus de La Paz), parcequ'il faut pas louper le premier col. En gros, il faut prendre le chemin le plus raide, sur la droite, et viser le petit monticule de pierre qui signale le col (et qu'on voit de relativement loin). Pour le reste du trek il n'y a qu'a suivre l'ancienne route inca en pierre jusqu'au bout.
2) Aussi entendu parler de cette nouvelle route, mais je sais pas si elle est terminee. Mais ne panique pas, c'est vrai qu'il y a une chute toutes les 2 semaines, mais c'est en general des camions (plus lourds et souvent avec des chauffeurs plus alcolises...). La remontee de Coroico a La Paz est effectivement bcp moins dangereuse, car les voitures roulent a gauche sur cette route (pour que les chauffeurs qui descendent soient du cote du precipice et voient mieux leurs roues "exterieures"), donc ceux qui montent sont cote montagne. Pour minimiser les risques, choisis plutot un minibus (plus leger) qui remonte de jour (meilleure vision), et profite... car c'est vraiment impressionnant.
3) Couchage: Il y a plusieurs endroits prevus pour planter la tente, en general dans des villages ou des petites hacienda. Tu payes entre 0 et 10 Pesos peruviens (0 - 3 euros) pour passer la nuit. Personnelement, je prefere ce systeme, parce que tu peux rencontrer d'autres gens (touristes ou locaux) et c'est surement plus sur. Maintenant, si tu veux vraiment, je suppose qu'il est possible de dormir ailleurs, mais uniquement la premiere nuit, parcequ'apres ca devient de la foret dense et il est dur de trouver un endroit approprie. De plus, la derniere partie du trek n'est pas forcement la plus sure (voir lonely planet)...
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Hi,
We’re planning to do the 4-day trek from Mestia to Ushguli without an agency. The descriptions mention that there are accommodations at each stop, but we can’t find any details about them. Has anyone got info or feedback on this route?
We're planning to trek in Peru and Bolivia and would love to find some local agencies.
If you know any, could you share details on prices and, of course, the names of the agencies?
Which trek would you recommend?
Elocine
I'm heading out on a fully self-sufficient trek in Morocco (10 days) from Imilchil to Aghbalou.
Can I find screw-on gas canisters (Coleman, Primus) in Marrakech (any addresses?) or in villages between Imilchil and Aghbalou?
If not, are Butagaz canisters for camping gas (small 230g size) available?
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Hello, I’d like to embark on a little trip in my home country, Switzerland. I’ll start walking from La Cure, heading toward Le Noirmont first, then I’ll improvise my route—but it’ll probably follow the French border... at least as far as Lac de Joux.
I’ll decide day by day how much farther to go after that. My goal is to stay in nature as much as possible, wander around for as long as I can, and restock food in villages or towns along the way.
I’m thinking of mostly camping, but we’ll see if I end up in a hotel or another campsite depending on my route.
I’d love to reach La Chaux-de-Fonds on foot... maybe even Delémont.
The whole thing should take about a week, give or take.
I’ll be bringing my dog, and I’m preparing for this as soon as I’m ready.
Any tips to make sure everything goes smoothly for us? Things I should know—or avoid? What about shepherds with their flocks of sheep? And isn’t hunting season open right now?
I’m not sure if what I’m planning is even doable, which is why I’m asking around.
This’ll be my first time doing something like this—wandering in nature *and* with a dog. I’m really excited for this adventure... and I need it. Thanks!
We’re really keen on ecosystems and want to hike in "natural" ancient forests—not planted woods or areas heavily degraded by human activity. Travel guides (like Lonely Planet) don’t provide much info on this. Could you point us to the most interesting spots?
Thanks in advance for your tips.
We wish you happy holidays and a fantastic 2026, full of discoveries!
Claire and Albert
Hi, this might not be the right section, but I’d like to know if it’s possible to start mountaineering with another person without necessarily hiring a guide. We’ve done quite a bit of hiking but not mountaineering—we’ll just do a half-day glacier course. After that, we were thinking of starting with La Grande Motte and the Pointe de la Traversière, which were recommended to us. Honestly, for things like roping up and knots, I’ll learn at home with lots of videos and a book.
I’d love to know if anyone has done treks in the Rwenzori Mountains and how much it costs on average, what the infrastructure is like, the landscapes, and safety in the area. Thanks so much! I’m really looking forward to your replies.
We’re leaving in 9 days for a two-week trip to Madeira, mainly to hike.
From my research, I’ve found that since last year, access to most trails—and systematically for the most popular ones—is now paid. You have to pay an access fee of 4.50 € per person per classified hike in 2026, and even 10.50 € for the most iconic hike: Pico Arieiro to Pico Ruivo. When paying, you also have to choose a day and a 30-minute time slot for your start time. Of course, this reservation is neither changeable nor refundable, even if the weather that day is terrible.
Personally, given the massive influx of tourists to the island in recent years, I don’t mind paying a fee to help maintain the trails. Similarly, setting a limit on the number of people who can hike them per day is certainly preferable to preserve this priceless heritage.
However, what’s much less fair is that in reality, most of the available spots are reserved: 1/ for Madeira residents (which is normal); 2/ for "economic operators" (meaning local tour operators). For example, if you’re a non-resident (independent tourist), no booking is possible for the Pico Arieiro hike for an early morning start before September! So, unfortunately, we’ll have to skip this hike.
It’s the same issue for Ponta de São Lourenço, the 25 Fontes, Pico Ruivo... in short, all the most popular hikes. Oh well, we’ll skip those too!
So my question is: which hikes do you recommend where we won’t face the huge crowds that the others get? And where we can book the day before for the next day, taking the weather into account?
Finally, a quick accommodation question: we’ve booked the first week in Funchal, but I haven’t decided yet for the second week. Do you have any advice on where to stay in the south or north, preferably avoiding overly concrete-heavy and touristy spots?
I’m reposting about the logistics for Samaria Gorge.
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Hi there,
We’re flying from Montreal to Lyon this August to go hiking in the French Alps. We’ve rented a car and will be staying at campgrounds. We’re planning to do day hikes and want to stay a few days in one spot, do a few hikes, then move on to our next camping spot. Could you share your favorite spots or any recommendations for places to spend a few days with great hikes?
A few details:
We arrive in early August and leave in early September.
We’re looking for day hikes (or shorter), moderate difficulty, with a cumulative elevation gain of no more than 1000m, and of course, beautiful scenery!
We’d prefer not to drive too much—maybe it’s best not to head too far south and deal with unnecessary heat?
Along the same lines, if you know of any great campgrounds where we can start our hike directly without needing the car, we’d love to hear your suggestions!
Hi there,
I’m planning to go hiking on this island and would like to know the best time to do it. I visited for a few days in November 2018—not for hiking but just to explore—and the weather wasn’t great, especially in the mountains. So, is a star-shaped itinerary doable if I rent a car and maybe use two different accommodations?
I’m not planning to join an organized group—just traveling with one other person and organizing things ourselves—unless you’d recommend a local agency or guide. Finally, even though I’ll be getting maps, a topo guide, and a GPS, I’d really appreciate your top hiking recommendations.
Thanks so much for your tips!
I’m planning to do the Mercantour crossing following the Randoxygène route in mid-July.
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Can anyone give me some info on this?
Thanks!
I’m planning a trip around Cap Corse and the AGRIATES in 2026, from May 8th to 15th (there are still 2 spots left, by the way! Just DM me if you're interested).
I’d love to know which hikes are worth prioritizing in the AGRIATES. We’ll be staying in SALECCIA for two days as our base—what should we focus on from there?
A round trip to IGNHU beach? Any other suggestions?
For Ostricano, I think it’s too far for a round trip...
Thanks for your tips!
Have a great day,
Anie, Toulouse
I’d like to get some info about the GR10 Pyrenees traverse. I need help planning the daily stages and accommodations—my wife isn’t an experienced hiker but walks a lot, so I’d like to schedule shorter walking days and thus a longer overall trip in terms of number of days.
Could anyone give me some help and advice?
Best regards,
New to this forum, I’m planning a pretty big project for 2028.
I’m heading to Nepal to do a trek from Kathmandu all the way to Everest Base Camp (a cool 5,300 m 😄).
This trek is a bit special because even though I’ll be part of a group, I’m going solo (so far, no problem—I’m used to it). But it’s my first real trek, and it’s also a humanitarian one: once I reach base camp, I’ll stay an extra week to help clean up the waste left by tens of thousands of climbers! Since I’m originally from South America, from two countries that share the Andes, I have a deep respect for mountains—they fascinate me. So Everest… it’s kind of the trip of a lifetime!
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Hi there, I’m planning the Annapurna Circuit for March 2027 and I’m looking for a local agency with a local guide—preferably French-speaking—to arrange this trek for us. Any suggestions? Thanks
Hello!
We’re spending a few days in Toraja country at the end of May. We’d love to do a day trek—taking our time—on a route that’s stunning in terms of scenery, but not a level 5 in difficulty!
Any suggestions you can share, please?
Thanks in advance
I’d like to do the Mare a Mare Sud in May over 4 days. I’ve found quite a few places to stay along the route, but I’m stuck on the start and finish.
I’ll be arriving by plane on Sunday evening and would like to start pretty early on Monday morning. Ideally, accommodation right at the trailhead (Alzu di Gallina) would be amazing, but I can’t find anything. Any tips?
Also, for the transfer from Figari Airport to Porto Vecchio or Alzu di Gallina?
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I’m traveling solo by plane to Catania in May and plan to hike the northern side of Etna, starting from Linguaglossa where I’ll arrive by bus. After that, I’d love some info on how to get up to Piano Provenzana (shuttles or hitchhiking), since it seems there’s no public transport except in the summer. Can you sleep there in a free or cheap refuge, or camp? And how far up can you go without having to hire a guide? Thanks in advance. Bernard.
Hi everyone,
I’m heading to Morocco in August and we’ll start with a stop in Chefchaouen (we’re driving).
My question: can anyone suggest a 5-to-7-day loop hiking route from Chefchaouen in Talassemtane Park, ideally passing by the God’s Bridge? Or a paper guidebook that covers a few options?
We prefer wild camping and guesthouses.
Thanks in advance
Hi there, for those who’ve been recently—is it possible to find other solo travelers in March on the island to share transport or room costs? It doesn’t seem easy to travel on a budget.
If you have any recommendations for simple lodgings or places with dorms, I’d love to hear them.
For those who’ve done multi-day treks while moving around: do you need to bring your own sleeping bag? I’d love to hear about itineraries you’ve done without a guide, just with a map and GPS.
Thanks, and have a great day!
Hi everyone!
We’re planning a 15-day road trip to Scotland this summer, specifically to explore and hike on Lewis and Harris—places we’ve never been before. We’ve visited other islands on previous road trips in Scotland (we usually go in April for a week). This would be our first time in Scotland in the summer and for 15 days. We’re looking at late August to early September.
I’m currently drafting the itinerary. We’d be crossing from Ullapool and were thinking of spending 3 nights on Harris and 4 nights on Lewis.
Does that sound balanced to you? Is it better to keep the same accommodation on Harris and the same on Lewis to explore the area? I’d love to hear about any past experiences you’ve had on these islands.
Thanks!
Hi there, I’m trying to leave for 15 days very soon to São Vicente. I’m either looking to join an agency or figure things out on my own to go hiking on one of these islands or both. From what I’ve seen, it’s not easy to organize with local transport, so it gets expensive. Can I use the services of a small local agency? I’m looking for the simplest way to hike for several days. Also, how do you get from São Vicente to São Nicolau? Thanks in advance and have a great day!
Aichatou
I’ve been wanting to do this for several years, and this year’s the one. Next September, I’ll be trekking in Tusheti (Georgia), from Omalo to Shatili.
Of course, I won’t be renting a vehicle that’d just sit unused. No problem getting to Pshaveli, but from there to Omalo, it’s a dirt road (still the case?)
There must be some form of public transport since there are so many guesthouses, and not all travelers come in a 4x4.
If any of you have been to Omalo, could you confirm that these shared transports exist and how often they run?
we’re planning a trip to Yellowstone and hoping to do a three-day backcountry hike if we get a permit.
if any of you have done this before, could you let me know if it’s possible to find water along the way? And if we can transport it, are we allowed to use a stove?
Hello,
I’ll be in Nepal from March 6th to 29th (we’re flying into Kathmandu via Varanasi and leaving via Delhi).
I’m a bit confused about the regulations requiring a guide.
My wife and I (we’re 63 and 64) aren’t experienced trekkers—we’re more used to walking on terrain with very moderate elevation changes. I’m looking for fairly easy hikes, possibly day trips.
Here are my questions:
- Does the Poon Hill trek from Pokhara require a guide, or is it better to go through a local agency? (I’ve seen a lot of them offering 4-day packages)
- I’d like to do a few multi-day hikes around Jomsom (Kagbeni, Mukitinath, Lupra, Marpha)... Do you need a guide for those, and can you find accommodations easily without booking in advance?
Last question—I’m really hesitant to lug around a sleeping bag or down jacket during our 6 weeks in India. Can you easily find these kinds of items at reasonable prices in Pokhara?
Thanks in advance for any tips you can share!
Yann
I’m a 56-year-old man who’s done several treks in Nepal and elsewhere. Also passionate about photography.
I’m looking for one or more people to form a group for a trek in Nepal. The trek is the Annapurna and Manaslu circuit (24 days), including a stop at Tilicho Lake. I’ve got a great itinerary and the local company seems solid. The price is around $1600.
I’ll be in Nepal from April 5 to May 12, 2026, so the trek would need to happen within those dates.
